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0:00:02 > 0:00:06'SALLY MAGNUSSON: I've come to the famous River Clyde in Scotland,

0:00:06 > 0:00:07'and, on a cold winter's day,

0:00:07 > 0:00:10'it's perhaps not the best time for a boat trip!'

0:00:10 > 0:00:13But I couldn't be in safer hands, because I've come to meet

0:00:13 > 0:00:20a true local hero, a man who's saved hundreds of people from these waters.

0:00:20 > 0:00:24Also in the programme, Claire's in Ballymena in Northern Ireland

0:00:24 > 0:00:27at a gym for the body and the soul.

0:00:27 > 0:00:29Through this gym, since we opened six years ago,

0:00:29 > 0:00:32there has been about 30 people have given their lives to Jesus

0:00:32 > 0:00:34just through the tool of fitness.

0:00:34 > 0:00:36# Everywhere I go... #

0:00:36 > 0:00:38And we'll be launching this year's

0:00:38 > 0:00:41Songs Of Praise Gospel Choir Of The Year competition.

0:00:41 > 0:00:45# ..I'm gonna hold my light up high! #

0:00:53 > 0:00:55GULLS CALL

0:00:57 > 0:01:00And we've got wonderful hymns and songs

0:01:00 > 0:01:02from across the UK, but we begin

0:01:02 > 0:01:07just along from here in Paisley, with a classic hymn of praise.

0:03:50 > 0:03:52APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:03:57 > 0:03:59Glasgow's changed a great deal

0:03:59 > 0:04:02since it was the shipbuilding capital of the British Empire.

0:04:02 > 0:04:05Many traditional industries have declined,

0:04:05 > 0:04:10but now, the old and the new sit side-by-side, with ships, whisky,

0:04:10 > 0:04:15even television programmes, being produced by the waterside.

0:04:15 > 0:04:17The Clyde remains one of Britain's busiest waterways

0:04:17 > 0:04:21and that, combined with the unpredictable weather,

0:04:21 > 0:04:23means it can be pretty treacherous.

0:04:24 > 0:04:28Each year, hundreds of people get into difficulty on the river

0:04:28 > 0:04:32and, for more than two centuries, the Glasgow Humane Society

0:04:32 > 0:04:35has done all it can to be there to rescue them.

0:04:35 > 0:04:38'George Parsonage succeeded his father

0:04:38 > 0:04:40'as Chief Officer of the Society.

0:04:40 > 0:04:42'I met him when the waters were calm.

0:04:42 > 0:04:44'But after a lifetime rowing this river,

0:04:44 > 0:04:48'George knows how quickly people can get into trouble.'

0:04:48 > 0:04:52I was not really expected to follow in my father's footsteps.

0:04:52 > 0:04:56But the day my father died, that afternoon,

0:04:56 > 0:05:02there was an accident down-river and CID phoned, people that

0:05:02 > 0:05:04hadn't known my father was dead,

0:05:04 > 0:05:07and told us of the incident and I just... You just went.

0:05:07 > 0:05:09That was it.

0:05:09 > 0:05:12What kind of situations do you get called to on the river?

0:05:12 > 0:05:17Well, you can get people trying to walk across a bridge,

0:05:17 > 0:05:21they think they're clever, usually with a bit of drink in them,

0:05:21 > 0:05:22and you can get a boating accident.

0:05:22 > 0:05:25Now, the boating accidents are never really any problem,

0:05:25 > 0:05:30but you never know when it could become a problem.

0:05:30 > 0:05:35And sometimes, sadly, it is people wanting to take their own lives?

0:05:35 > 0:05:39Er, I don't believe in the word "suicide"...at all.

0:05:39 > 0:05:42Usually find they are cries for help.

0:05:42 > 0:05:46Unfortunately, some of them, obviously, don't make it,

0:05:46 > 0:05:49but our proud boast is... My father's boast and now mine

0:05:49 > 0:05:53is that, er, we've never seen anybody drown in the river.

0:05:53 > 0:05:57If we see somebody... If somebody's alive when we're called out,

0:05:57 > 0:06:00we're always able to rescue them, you know?

0:06:00 > 0:06:05I also believe that there's somebody guiding us all the time,

0:06:05 > 0:06:11because, er, the number of very, very strange experiences I've had -

0:06:11 > 0:06:14being in the right place at the right time -

0:06:14 > 0:06:18there has to be a God, there has to be something up there.

0:06:18 > 0:06:23'One of the many George has rescued from the river is Gordon Simpson.'

0:06:23 > 0:06:25I was going out rowing one day

0:06:25 > 0:06:27in a sculling boat. Up the river I came

0:06:27 > 0:06:30and I got just under this bridge we're standing on now

0:06:30 > 0:06:32and I got to the other side of the bridge

0:06:32 > 0:06:33and my oar jumped out the gate.

0:06:33 > 0:06:36Now, when the oar jumps out of the gate in a sculling boat,

0:06:36 > 0:06:39you fall in, because you've no balance,

0:06:39 > 0:06:43and it was a very cold January day, with a howling westerly.

0:06:43 > 0:06:46Maybe I shouldn't have been out, but I was.

0:06:46 > 0:06:48So, I got in the water itself.

0:06:48 > 0:06:51Then I began to panic slightly, but I kept my cool.

0:06:51 > 0:06:55Fortunately, there was people crossing the bridge at the time.

0:06:55 > 0:06:57They ran up and got hold of George.

0:06:57 > 0:07:02George came down, got in his boat, came out, went alongside me,

0:07:02 > 0:07:07put his arms under my oxters here, and then,

0:07:07 > 0:07:10then he pushed me under, which gave me a bigger fright!

0:07:10 > 0:07:13But it was to get buoyancy and, when I pushed up,

0:07:13 > 0:07:16he pulled me right back up and pulled me into his boat,

0:07:16 > 0:07:18which I was glad to get into.

0:07:19 > 0:07:24I've heard it said that you've rescued 1,500 people or thereabouts.

0:07:24 > 0:07:29- Is that right?- I certainly know my dad had rescued more than that.

0:07:29 > 0:07:35But, er... You don't go... You don't go counting.

0:07:35 > 0:07:39But you must have seen death, though, on the river?

0:07:39 > 0:07:40I've seen a lot, yeah.

0:07:42 > 0:07:44Whether it's a child or an older person,

0:07:44 > 0:07:47once you see a dead body, you don't want to see another one.

0:07:47 > 0:07:49Don't want to see another one! And that makes you

0:07:49 > 0:07:54really, really centric about the safety point and I'm very proud

0:07:54 > 0:07:58that we are concentrating on the safety bit just now.

0:07:58 > 0:08:02You've spent your life dealing with life-and-death situations.

0:08:02 > 0:08:07I wonder how that's forged your beliefs?

0:08:07 > 0:08:12Well, I was born and brought up in the Church of Scotland.

0:08:12 > 0:08:14The river is heaving.

0:08:14 > 0:08:19We can have 400 or 500 racing boats out on the river on a Sunday morning

0:08:19 > 0:08:23and, therefore, you've got to be here, just in case of accidents,

0:08:23 > 0:08:25so I don't go to church very often.

0:08:25 > 0:08:28- Are you ever picked up on that point?- Yes!

0:08:28 > 0:08:32I went to a church a couple of years ago

0:08:32 > 0:08:37and the minister said, "I don't see you here very often."

0:08:37 > 0:08:38So, I just said to him,

0:08:38 > 0:08:43"Well, that, sir, is because I must be about my father's business."

0:08:43 > 0:08:46And he gave me a little wry look and he said,

0:08:46 > 0:08:49"What IS your father's business?" And I said,

0:08:49 > 0:08:52"I, sir, am a fisher of men."

0:08:52 > 0:08:54And there is a serious point, though, isn't there?

0:08:54 > 0:08:59Do you feel that you are doing your father's business out here?

0:08:59 > 0:09:01There's no doubt about it.

0:09:01 > 0:09:06It was after quite a number of years of racing about in the racing boats

0:09:06 > 0:09:10that I realised I hadn't just been given this ability of rowing

0:09:10 > 0:09:15to win races, but the best races were getting there in time

0:09:15 > 0:09:17to save somebody on the river.

0:09:17 > 0:09:22'Later, George reveals how his faith and the love of rowing combine

0:09:22 > 0:09:25'in his other passion - sculpture!

0:09:25 > 0:09:29'But first, let's enjoy one of his favourite hymns.'

0:11:32 > 0:11:34Today's the day we launch our search

0:11:34 > 0:11:38for the 2016 Songs Of Praise Gospel Choir Of The Year.

0:11:38 > 0:11:41It's more than just a competition. It's a festival!

0:11:41 > 0:11:46- # Oh, happy day! - Oh, happy day! #

0:11:46 > 0:11:51And 2016 will be no exception. Once more, we're looking for choirs

0:11:51 > 0:11:54to take part in this showcase of talent.

0:11:55 > 0:11:59I think choirs should enter Gospel Choir Of The Year 2016

0:11:59 > 0:12:02because competitions give a choir

0:12:02 > 0:12:05an opportunity to really examine itself, to really work

0:12:05 > 0:12:09towards something and it is a great way to develop a choir.

0:12:09 > 0:12:11And also, you get to interact with other choirs

0:12:11 > 0:12:13and you can learn off them.

0:12:14 > 0:12:18Iron sharpens iron and choirs sharpen other choirs.

0:12:18 > 0:12:22# Your grace abounds in deepest waters

0:12:22 > 0:12:26# Your sovereign hand... #

0:12:26 > 0:12:29I am looking for a choir that delivers to

0:12:29 > 0:12:33the best of their ability, I am looking for a choir that reflects

0:12:33 > 0:12:35what is uniquely UK gospel,

0:12:35 > 0:12:39I'm looking for a choir that convinces me

0:12:39 > 0:12:42that what they are singing they believe.

0:12:44 > 0:12:49# And I will call upon your name... #

0:12:49 > 0:12:52A great gospel choir should have you on the edge of your seat,

0:12:52 > 0:12:55you should be feeling like, "I need to cry, I need to laugh."

0:12:55 > 0:12:57It should take you on the whole gamut of emotions.

0:12:57 > 0:13:00It should be technically strong but more than anything,

0:13:00 > 0:13:01it should move you.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04- # Now I know - Now I know

0:13:04 > 0:13:06# There's no doubt in my mind

0:13:06 > 0:13:08# Jesus has answered... #

0:13:08 > 0:13:11The final competition performances may be high-pressure

0:13:11 > 0:13:14but the build-up to them is always great fun.

0:13:14 > 0:13:17From the minute we heard that we were finalists,

0:13:17 > 0:13:18there has been this growing excitement

0:13:18 > 0:13:22and then deciding what we were going to wear and all our accessories,

0:13:22 > 0:13:24it has really taken all of us to another level.

0:13:24 > 0:13:30# From every nation God knows each of us by name... #

0:13:30 > 0:13:34We're excited, there is a buzz with the choir,

0:13:34 > 0:13:35the prep talks have been fantastic.

0:13:35 > 0:13:38Coming on the coach, everybody is just grinning

0:13:38 > 0:13:40and bubbling and, "Oh, we're here!"

0:13:40 > 0:13:42So, it has been really good, I'm just crazy.

0:13:42 > 0:13:44# Laid down our lives

0:13:44 > 0:13:49# But we all shall live again on the other side... #

0:13:49 > 0:13:51It's gospel music, it is all about faith.

0:13:51 > 0:13:56It is not "secular" music, it is Gospel Choir Of The Year.

0:13:56 > 0:13:59And so, that faith has to come across, I have to believe

0:13:59 > 0:14:03that they mean every word that they say and they want that to reach me.

0:14:03 > 0:14:10# Oh, oh, oh Don't cry

0:14:10 > 0:14:14# Wipe your eyes... #

0:14:14 > 0:14:18I think it is a unique opportunity for UK gospel to showcase

0:14:18 > 0:14:20what's going on here.

0:14:20 > 0:14:23# Everywhere I go

0:14:23 > 0:14:26# Everywhere I've been

0:14:26 > 0:14:31# I'm going to hold my light up high

0:14:31 > 0:14:34# For the world to see... #

0:14:34 > 0:14:37So, if you'd like your choir to take part, don't delay,

0:14:37 > 0:14:40go straight to the Songs Of Praise website,

0:14:40 > 0:14:42where you will find all the details

0:14:42 > 0:14:44and terms and conditions you need to enter.

0:14:44 > 0:14:49You have got until Friday 1st April to get your entry in.

0:14:49 > 0:14:52Now, let's remind ourselves of the amazing winners'

0:14:52 > 0:14:55performance from last year's competition.

0:14:55 > 0:15:02# We are going to see the King

0:15:03 > 0:15:06# Going

0:15:06 > 0:15:08# Going to see the King

0:15:10 > 0:15:12- # Soon and very soon - Soon and very soon

0:15:12 > 0:15:16- # We are going to see the King - We are going to see

0:15:16 > 0:15:19# Soon and very soon

0:15:19 > 0:15:21# We are going to see the King

0:15:21 > 0:15:25- # We're going, we're going to see - Soon and very soon

0:15:25 > 0:15:29# We are going to see the King

0:15:29 > 0:15:31- # Hallelujah - Hallelujah

0:15:31 > 0:15:35# Hallelujah We are going to see the King

0:15:35 > 0:15:39- # No more crying there - No more crying there

0:15:39 > 0:15:43- # We are going to see the King - We're going to see the King

0:15:43 > 0:15:49# No more crying there We are going to see the King

0:15:49 > 0:15:51# We're going, we're going

0:15:51 > 0:15:55# No more crying there We are going to see the King

0:15:55 > 0:15:57# Hallelujah

0:15:57 > 0:16:00# Hallelujah, hallelujah

0:16:00 > 0:16:02# We are going to see the King

0:16:02 > 0:16:05# Hallelujah

0:16:05 > 0:16:09# Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ah

0:16:09 > 0:16:11# Should there be

0:16:11 > 0:16:16# Should there be any rivers we must cross

0:16:16 > 0:16:24# Should there be any mountains we must climb

0:16:24 > 0:16:30# God will supply all the strength that we need

0:16:30 > 0:16:37# Give us grace till we reach the other side

0:16:37 > 0:16:40# We have come from every nation

0:16:40 > 0:16:43# God knows each of us by name

0:16:43 > 0:16:47# Jesus shed His precious blood

0:16:47 > 0:16:51# And He washed our sins away

0:16:51 > 0:16:57# Yes, there are some of us who have laid down our lives

0:16:57 > 0:17:03# But we all shall live again on the other side

0:17:03 > 0:17:07# No more dying there

0:17:07 > 0:17:10# We are going to see the King

0:17:10 > 0:17:14- # We're going, we're going to see - No more dying there

0:17:14 > 0:17:17# We are going to see the King

0:17:17 > 0:17:20- # We're going to see the King - No more dying there

0:17:20 > 0:17:24# We are going to see the King

0:17:24 > 0:17:26- # Hallelujah - Hallelujah

0:17:26 > 0:17:30# Hallelujah We are going to see the King

0:17:30 > 0:17:34# Hallelujah

0:17:34 > 0:17:37# Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ah

0:17:37 > 0:17:41# Hallelujah

0:17:41 > 0:17:48# Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ah. #

0:17:48 > 0:17:52CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:17:58 > 0:18:02Glasgow has a rich heritage of art and music.

0:18:02 > 0:18:05It was named European City Of Culture back in 1990,

0:18:05 > 0:18:09just after our next guest had her first big hit.

0:18:09 > 0:18:12Singer-songwriter Eddi Reader is Glasgow born and bred.

0:18:12 > 0:18:16Here she is now with her take on a classic hymn.

0:18:23 > 0:18:29# Soul of my saviour

0:18:29 > 0:18:34# Sanctify my breast

0:18:34 > 0:18:39# Body of Christ

0:18:39 > 0:18:46# Be thou my saving guest

0:18:46 > 0:18:52# Blood of my saviour

0:18:52 > 0:18:59# Bathe me in thy tide

0:18:59 > 0:19:05# Wash me with water

0:19:05 > 0:19:11# Gushing from thy side

0:19:12 > 0:19:18# Strength and protection

0:19:18 > 0:19:23# May thy passion be

0:19:23 > 0:19:30# O blessed Jesus

0:19:30 > 0:19:36# Hear and answer me

0:19:36 > 0:19:43# Deep in thy wounds, Lord

0:19:43 > 0:19:48# Hide and shelter me

0:19:48 > 0:19:55# So shall I never

0:19:55 > 0:20:01# Never part from thee

0:20:15 > 0:20:21# Guard and defend me

0:20:21 > 0:20:26# From the foe malign

0:20:26 > 0:20:33# In death's dread moments

0:20:33 > 0:20:39# Make me only thine

0:20:39 > 0:20:47# Call me and bid me

0:20:47 > 0:20:53# Come to thee on high

0:20:53 > 0:21:00# Where I may praise thee

0:21:00 > 0:21:08# With thy saints for aye. #

0:21:13 > 0:21:16I don't suppose you'll be surprised to hear that gym membership

0:21:16 > 0:21:19rises rapidly in January, as many of us

0:21:19 > 0:21:22resolve to work off those Christmas indulgences.

0:21:22 > 0:21:25Well, Claire McCollum has been to a gym in Ballymena

0:21:25 > 0:21:31in Northern Ireland, to find out how fitness can help body and soul.

0:21:31 > 0:21:35I wonder how many of you, like me, have made New Year's resolutions.

0:21:37 > 0:21:41Getting fit and changing to a healthier diet tops the list

0:21:41 > 0:21:42every January.

0:21:42 > 0:21:45And at Green Pastures Church in Ballymena, you can

0:21:45 > 0:21:47do just that and hear God's word.

0:21:47 > 0:21:49All under one roof.

0:21:52 > 0:21:55OK, Linda, let's get ready to work up those shoulders.

0:21:55 > 0:21:57Pick up your 5kg.

0:21:57 > 0:22:01Place them on your shoulders and lift up, breathe out.

0:22:01 > 0:22:03Estelle Wallace is a personal trainer

0:22:03 > 0:22:06and the manager at the church's own Pure Wellness gym.

0:22:06 > 0:22:10It looks to me like many, many gyms up and down the country

0:22:10 > 0:22:13but it is different. Why is it so different?

0:22:13 > 0:22:14I think the main thing would be

0:22:14 > 0:22:18because we are under the church roof here at Green Pastures.

0:22:18 > 0:22:21We wanted to cater for something that brings in the local community.

0:22:21 > 0:22:27We accept everybody as they are and our aim is to make people

0:22:27 > 0:22:30believe in themselves and actually act out what they believe

0:22:30 > 0:22:32they can be.

0:22:32 > 0:22:34We get every walk of life and through this gym

0:22:34 > 0:22:38since we opened six years ago, there has been about 30 people have

0:22:38 > 0:22:41given their lives to Jesus just through the tool of fitness.

0:22:41 > 0:22:44The Lord says to use whatever is in your hand and in our hands

0:22:44 > 0:22:46in here is fitness.

0:22:46 > 0:22:48So, we get a chance to actually witness to people without

0:22:48 > 0:22:50ever preaching a word.

0:22:50 > 0:22:54The idea and vision for the gym came from Pastor Jeff Wright.

0:22:54 > 0:22:58The gym really is a brilliant thing for engaging with people that

0:22:58 > 0:23:00don't normally come to church.

0:23:00 > 0:23:04The proceeds and the profits of the gym go to help people

0:23:04 > 0:23:05out in the community.

0:23:05 > 0:23:09We can feed people with that, we can do community clean-ups.

0:23:09 > 0:23:13There are a lot of hurting people out there, lost in this world

0:23:13 > 0:23:17and we really want to invite them to come

0:23:17 > 0:23:20in and have an encounter with Jesus and his cross.

0:23:20 > 0:23:24One of those whose life has been touched by the gym

0:23:24 > 0:23:26is Alison Kernohan.

0:23:26 > 0:23:2915 years ago, she was struggling with a heroin addiction.

0:23:30 > 0:23:32Things had got really bad.

0:23:32 > 0:23:34I'd been a heroin addict for a few years.

0:23:34 > 0:23:39Me and my partner, we had moved to a small village, very close to here.

0:23:39 > 0:23:45The people hated us. I had people spit at my feet.

0:23:45 > 0:23:48We had our windows all put in one night.

0:23:48 > 0:23:51I remember on one occasion, I actually got down on my hands

0:23:51 > 0:23:55and knees on my living room floor and I cried out to God.

0:23:55 > 0:23:57Erm...

0:23:59 > 0:24:02I just... I just wanted to die.

0:24:02 > 0:24:05I wanted him to give me the courage to end my life.

0:24:05 > 0:24:09Or somehow to get me out of it.

0:24:09 > 0:24:14Alison received professional help and managed to come off heroin.

0:24:14 > 0:24:17As part of her rehabilitation, she signed up to a healthy eating

0:24:17 > 0:24:21programme and started coming to the gym at Green Pastures Church.

0:24:22 > 0:24:25I was a non-Christian then and straightaway,

0:24:25 > 0:24:30it was like an instant feeling of this...

0:24:30 > 0:24:33It just became my home from home.

0:24:33 > 0:24:36There was a joy about the place and I remember saying to the

0:24:36 > 0:24:39manager, Estelle, "What is it about this place?"

0:24:39 > 0:24:43And she nailed it on the head. She just said, "God lives here."

0:24:43 > 0:24:46As we move into the New Year, we are going...

0:24:46 > 0:24:49Today, Alison's life revolves around the church

0:24:49 > 0:24:54and she works as a personal trainer, helping and encouraging others.

0:24:54 > 0:24:58I am so thankful to God because it is all through him

0:24:58 > 0:25:01and it just shows that he has been there

0:25:01 > 0:25:03all along, through the struggles, he has seen the bigger picture.

0:25:06 > 0:25:09Is this God's gym?

0:25:09 > 0:25:11Absolutely. It is not my gym,

0:25:11 > 0:25:13it is not the team's gym,

0:25:13 > 0:25:16it belongs to God and He does all the miracles in here.

0:28:09 > 0:28:11Earlier, I met George Parsonage,

0:28:11 > 0:28:15who has dedicated his life to saving lives on the River Clyde.

0:28:15 > 0:28:20But even heroes need hobbies and for George, it's art.

0:28:20 > 0:28:21Wow, George!

0:28:23 > 0:28:26- This is all your stuff?- Yep.

0:28:27 > 0:28:31I went to art school and after the two-year general,

0:28:31 > 0:28:36- decided to do sculpture.- And where do you get all the material?

0:28:36 > 0:28:39Most of the material comes out the river, or out the scrapyard.

0:28:39 > 0:28:44- But the river bank gives me a lot of it.- And, George, what's this?

0:28:44 > 0:28:46Is this a crucifix?

0:28:46 > 0:28:49It came quite simply from somebody taking a photograph,

0:28:49 > 0:28:53looking right down on me as I passed under a bridge.

0:28:53 > 0:28:56And I realised that the boat was the crucifix.

0:28:56 > 0:29:00People had said, especially when the rowing started on a Sunday,

0:29:00 > 0:29:03that rowing had become my religion.

0:29:03 > 0:29:06So, my answer to that was, yeah, because you never actually feel

0:29:06 > 0:29:11nearer to God than when you're out in the middle of a river or loch.

0:29:11 > 0:29:13When you are rowing in an international race

0:29:13 > 0:29:17and you get about 1,800 metres of a 2,000-metre race

0:29:17 > 0:29:19and you feel as though your sweatband

0:29:19 > 0:29:24is your crown of thorns and your oars are nailed to the water.

0:29:24 > 0:29:30And it's a lovely idea of this, you know, and you come THROUGH that.

0:29:30 > 0:29:33If you are lucky, you win.

0:29:33 > 0:29:37You succeed, and that is what a lot of folk would say Jesus did.

0:29:37 > 0:29:41He came through the Crucifixion and succeeded.

0:29:44 > 0:29:48- This is the house, George, it belongs to the society.- It does, yes.

0:29:48 > 0:29:50How long have you been here?

0:29:50 > 0:29:54- I was born here, I was born in the room upstairs.- Were you?- Yes.

0:29:54 > 0:29:59- Goodness. So, that's a long time. - Aye, a long time.

0:29:59 > 0:30:05- So, you really have lived with this job, in every way.- Oh, yes.

0:30:05 > 0:30:10And it is surrounded here by these wonderful accolades to the

0:30:10 > 0:30:15- work that you and your father have done.- It is nice, yes.

0:30:15 > 0:30:19What are the things that have mattered most to you,

0:30:19 > 0:30:23the sort of recognition that has meant most to you personally?

0:30:23 > 0:30:29The best recognition you can get is your own satisfaction,

0:30:29 > 0:30:32that you have saved a life.

0:30:32 > 0:30:36So, as you look back on your life, George,

0:30:36 > 0:30:42- it has been a satisfying life, has it?- Yes, very satisfying.

0:30:42 > 0:30:46As I say, we all make our mistakes, we do things we shouldn't have done.

0:30:46 > 0:30:49We try to make up for it by doing all the good we can

0:30:49 > 0:30:53and I have tried to do a lot of good in this world.

0:30:53 > 0:30:56I will continue to try to do it if I can.

0:33:16 > 0:33:20Next week, John Craven is in Cumbria to visit communities

0:33:20 > 0:33:24rebuilding lives and livelihoods after the flooding of recent weeks.

0:33:24 > 0:33:27And do you know a family who have opened their home to refugees

0:33:27 > 0:33:31from war-torn countries like Iraq and Syria?

0:33:31 > 0:33:34If so, we would love to hear from you for a special programme.

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