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0:00:03 > 0:00:06Do you find yourself, or someone in your family, spending

0:00:06 > 0:00:07hours of their life on one of these?

0:00:07 > 0:00:09Perhaps they're sharing their news

0:00:09 > 0:00:12or pictures of what they had for dinner!

0:00:12 > 0:00:15Well, today marks Pentecost, when the early followers of Jesus

0:00:15 > 0:00:18received the gifts of the Holy Spirit and began spreading

0:00:18 > 0:00:23the word, and today we're meeting people who are doing exactly that.

0:00:23 > 0:00:26I'm joining the Church of England's first online pastor

0:00:26 > 0:00:30and the new internet chat show where the spiritual world meets

0:00:30 > 0:00:31the digital age.

0:00:32 > 0:00:36I'm Vicky Beeching, a self-confessed technology addict, finding

0:00:36 > 0:00:40the online world in a place you might least expect.

0:00:40 > 0:00:44Radzi Chinyanganya visits a church that's taking itself to the

0:00:44 > 0:00:47people by putting itself on wheels.

0:00:47 > 0:00:48And I'm in North Wales,

0:00:48 > 0:00:52retracing the steps of a young Welsh country girl whose

0:00:52 > 0:00:56inspirational journey helped take the Bible from Wales to the world.

0:01:04 > 0:01:08Amongst our music today we have a joyful performance from singer

0:01:08 > 0:01:12and actor Julian Ovenden and hymns to celebrate

0:01:12 > 0:01:16the gifts of the Holy Spirit and the birthday of the Church.

0:01:16 > 0:01:21Our opening hymn recalls that first Pentecost and puts the Holy Spirit,

0:01:21 > 0:01:25often referred to as a fire or flame, centre stage.

0:03:22 > 0:03:23LAPTOP BEEPS

0:03:25 > 0:03:26Whether we know it or not,

0:03:26 > 0:03:30most of us are plugged into the digital world in some way or

0:03:30 > 0:03:34another, whether that's using a mobile phone or an internet call

0:03:34 > 0:03:39to family or friends or even looking for a recipe in an app.

0:03:39 > 0:03:43But the idea of going to church online or using the internet to pray

0:03:43 > 0:03:48can feel at odds with what we expect being religious is all about.

0:03:49 > 0:03:52'Here at Christ Church in Little Drayton, the spiritual

0:03:52 > 0:03:56'and digital worlds are coming together in a novel way.'

0:03:56 > 0:04:00The 1,000-strong audience each week don't even need to

0:04:00 > 0:04:04be on time for church. In fact, they don't need to come here at all.

0:04:04 > 0:04:08'That's because this church becomes a pop-up TV studio for a weekly

0:04:08 > 0:04:13'chat show called TGI Monday, or Thank God It's Monday,

0:04:13 > 0:04:15'and viewers watch over the internet.'

0:04:15 > 0:04:16The reason why my phone was ringing

0:04:16 > 0:04:19is because it has to connect to ZeusCam.

0:04:24 > 0:04:29'As the team set up, I'm catching up with presenter Ros Clarke,

0:04:29 > 0:04:31'who's something of a pioneer.'

0:04:31 > 0:04:33Ros, you're the first of a kind.

0:04:33 > 0:04:36Well, you're right, Connie, I'm the first online pastor

0:04:36 > 0:04:38in the Church of England, and

0:04:38 > 0:04:41it means that I don't have a church, I don't have a congregation as such.

0:04:41 > 0:04:46What I do is I use social media as a way of reaching out to people

0:04:46 > 0:04:48who might never come into a church.

0:04:48 > 0:04:51You know, I had a nun once give a very wise comment.

0:04:51 > 0:04:54She said to me that there's a difference between healing and cure.

0:04:54 > 0:04:58Ooh! And I think that's really important, to remember that.

0:04:58 > 0:05:00Do some people think it's a little bit gimmicky?

0:05:00 > 0:05:03I think there are people who worry that what we're trying to do

0:05:03 > 0:05:07is replace church with something that's a bit more consumerist,

0:05:07 > 0:05:09take it or leave it as it suits you.

0:05:09 > 0:05:11And that's not what I'm trying to do.

0:05:11 > 0:05:15It's not replacing the main thing, but it's hoping to add to that.

0:05:15 > 0:05:17Please, if you're going through something like that,

0:05:17 > 0:05:20if you've had experiences of that and you'd like help,

0:05:20 > 0:05:22there are ways to get in touch with us - through the website,

0:05:22 > 0:05:25the Facebook page - and we'd love to point you in the right direction.

0:05:25 > 0:05:28An online chat show sounds like a really different way of doing

0:05:28 > 0:05:31church. Yeah, it is. It's great. We have four of us who get together.

0:05:31 > 0:05:33'We have different views about things, different

0:05:33 > 0:05:36'expressions of Christianity and have a really good time.'

0:05:36 > 0:05:38Awesome. Well, I'd love to check it out. Come and join us!

0:05:38 > 0:05:41Well, we've got a question this week from Zoe Corney,

0:05:41 > 0:05:44who sent this in via Facebook, and she asks...

0:05:46 > 0:05:50'The panel debate a weekly question sent in by viewers

0:05:50 > 0:05:52'from all over the world.'

0:05:52 > 0:05:54When I was in the lab, I used to have a catchphrase when I did

0:05:54 > 0:05:58my lab talks, and it was, "We're looking through a glass darkly."

0:05:58 > 0:06:01And everyone loved that until they found out it was from the Bible.

0:06:01 > 0:06:04It's really exciting to be a part of the show.

0:06:04 > 0:06:07There's cameras all around, and they're just speaking their mind.

0:06:07 > 0:06:10There's absolutely no script. So they just say what they think.

0:06:10 > 0:06:13Connie, you're sitting watching. Come and tell us what you think.

0:06:13 > 0:06:15'And even I get roped in.'

0:06:15 > 0:06:18Tell us what you think about heaven. Ooh, thank you very much!

0:06:18 > 0:06:19Well, do you know what? When I was a kid,

0:06:19 > 0:06:22I used to think that heaven was a really creative place,

0:06:22 > 0:06:25because in The Lord's Prayer, "Our Father, who ART in Heaven..."

0:06:25 > 0:06:26GROANS AND LAUGHTER

0:06:26 > 0:06:29'I saw my chance to ask some questions.'

0:06:29 > 0:06:32So, digital and spiritual, do they mix?

0:06:32 > 0:06:34I think they can in lots of ways. I think

0:06:34 > 0:06:38particularly for people who are a little bit isolated already,

0:06:38 > 0:06:40it's a way that church can really reach out

0:06:40 > 0:06:42and say that you matter, we know you're still there.

0:06:42 > 0:06:45And actually, disabled people getting online have

0:06:45 > 0:06:47discovered that they do have an equal voice in this sector.

0:06:47 > 0:06:49Today we're celebrating Pentecost,

0:06:49 > 0:06:51and it seems that you're doing the same. Yeah.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53It's about getting the word out there,

0:06:53 > 0:06:55the good news about the Lord Jesus, to as many

0:06:55 > 0:06:59people as possible in whatever way they're most likely to hear it.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27Sing together again. Our Father...

0:07:49 > 0:07:50The sound of heaven!

0:07:53 > 0:07:55Spirit break out.

0:08:15 > 0:08:18Let's conclude together. King Jesus...

0:09:16 > 0:09:20At Pentecost, the early followers of Jesus were given the gift

0:09:20 > 0:09:22of being understood in different languages

0:09:22 > 0:09:24in order to spread the word.

0:09:24 > 0:09:28This is a Welsh family Bible that's been passed on to me,

0:09:28 > 0:09:31and to be able to read the Bible in your own language is

0:09:31 > 0:09:33something that we might take for granted.

0:09:33 > 0:09:35As a Welsh lass myself,

0:09:35 > 0:09:39I'm proud to say that we owe a huge debt of thanks to a young Welsh

0:09:39 > 0:09:44girl who embarked on a remarkable journey over 200 years ago.

0:09:44 > 0:09:48'Josie has been retracing her now-famous footsteps.'

0:09:53 > 0:09:57'Mary Jones was born in 1784.

0:09:57 > 0:10:00'This is all that's left of her home in the beautiful

0:10:00 > 0:10:02'countryside of North Wales.'

0:10:02 > 0:10:05Every week, Mary would go to chapel

0:10:05 > 0:10:08and marvel at the stories being read from the pulpit.

0:10:08 > 0:10:10She longed for a Bible of her own

0:10:10 > 0:10:12that she could read in her own language,

0:10:12 > 0:10:17but her family were poor, and Welsh Bibles were scarce and expensive.

0:10:19 > 0:10:23So Mary worked and saved for six years, until finally,

0:10:23 > 0:10:26at the age of 15, she had enough money.

0:10:26 > 0:10:29She heard of a man who had Welsh Bibles to sell in Bala,

0:10:29 > 0:10:3126 miles away.

0:10:31 > 0:10:34So she gathered her savings, said goodbye to her mother

0:10:34 > 0:10:38and set off from this humble stone cottage on foot.

0:10:43 > 0:10:45'Another Mary - Mary Thomas -

0:10:45 > 0:10:48'has for many years been researching the route Mary would have taken.'

0:10:49 > 0:10:53We are about two to three miles outside of Bala.

0:10:53 > 0:10:57Mary Jones would have walked 20-plus miles as far as here,

0:10:57 > 0:11:00and it would be evening time by the time she would have got here,

0:11:00 > 0:11:03and the smoke would be rising from the chimneys

0:11:03 > 0:11:06of the town as she entered down the hill.

0:11:06 > 0:11:08What happened when she got there?

0:11:08 > 0:11:12Thomas Charles, who was a very eminent preacher in this time,

0:11:12 > 0:11:14he didn't have a Bible for sale,

0:11:14 > 0:11:18but he gave her a Bible that he was saving for his friend.

0:11:19 > 0:11:23'The Reverend Thomas Charles was so moved by this young girl's

0:11:23 > 0:11:26'desire to have a Bible of her own that he went on to found

0:11:26 > 0:11:31'Bible Society, which for over 200 years has been making

0:11:31 > 0:11:34'the word of God available around the world.

0:11:34 > 0:11:35'Because of Mary Jones,

0:11:35 > 0:11:39'the Bible has been translated into over 3,000 languages.'

0:11:41 > 0:11:44SHE READS IN WELSH

0:11:44 > 0:11:48'And the memory of Mary is still very much alive in Wales.'

0:11:49 > 0:11:54Today is very special, because 216 years after it left here

0:11:54 > 0:11:56being clutched by Mary Jones,

0:11:56 > 0:11:59her famous Bible is back in Bala.

0:12:01 > 0:12:04'Although now a bank, this is the very building to which Mary Jones

0:12:04 > 0:12:08'came to receive her Bible from Thomas Charles.

0:12:08 > 0:12:11'Today, people have come from far and wide to see her now-priceless

0:12:11 > 0:12:13'edition brought back under the watchful

0:12:13 > 0:12:15'eye of Dr Onesimus Ngundu,

0:12:15 > 0:12:19'guardian of Bible Society texts in Cambridge.'

0:12:20 > 0:12:24That's my first time, actually, to see the safe where it used to be.

0:12:24 > 0:12:28It's amazing to see its original home. Yes!

0:12:30 > 0:12:35Onesimus, for you personally, what does it mean, what she did?

0:12:35 > 0:12:41Here was a teenager being used of God.

0:12:41 > 0:12:46'Little did she know the fruit of her work will affect

0:12:46 > 0:12:49'the rest of the world.'

0:12:49 > 0:12:53Now, all of us, irregardless of who we are,

0:12:53 > 0:13:00we should never underestimate what God can do through us

0:13:00 > 0:13:04even before or after we are gone.

0:13:07 > 0:13:12Mary walked 26 miles for her Bible, but her story has travelled

0:13:12 > 0:13:15far further than she could possibly have imagined.

0:13:15 > 0:13:17Her love for the teachings of the stories of the Bible have

0:13:17 > 0:13:21helped to take those scriptures from Wales to the world.

0:13:21 > 0:13:23Thank you, Mary Jones.

0:13:24 > 0:13:26IN WELSH:

0:13:36 > 0:13:39# The Lord is my shepherd

0:13:39 > 0:13:42# I shall not want

0:13:42 > 0:13:48# He maketh me To lie down in green pastures

0:13:48 > 0:13:54# He leadeth me

0:13:54 > 0:14:01# Beside the still waters

0:14:04 > 0:14:08ALL: # The Lord is my shepherd

0:14:08 > 0:14:11# I shall not want

0:14:11 > 0:14:17# He maketh me To lie down in green pastures

0:14:17 > 0:14:24# He leadeth me

0:14:24 > 0:14:30# Beside the still waters

0:14:35 > 0:14:42# Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death

0:14:42 > 0:14:45# I will fear no evil

0:14:48 > 0:14:55# Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death

0:14:55 > 0:14:59# I will fear no evil

0:15:01 > 0:15:05# For you are with me

0:15:05 > 0:15:08# You will comfort me

0:15:08 > 0:15:12# You are with me

0:15:12 > 0:15:18# You will comfort me

0:15:20 > 0:15:28# Comfort me

0:15:28 > 0:15:34# Surely goodness and mercy

0:15:34 > 0:15:40# Shall follow me all the days of my life

0:15:40 > 0:15:53# And I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever

0:15:56 > 0:15:59# Forever

0:16:03 > 0:16:06# Forever

0:16:11 > 0:16:18# Forever. #

0:16:21 > 0:16:24You may have noticed that news of our Christmas-card

0:16:24 > 0:16:27competition has been going viral.

0:16:27 > 0:16:32Just one of our short videos reached more than 140,000 people.

0:16:32 > 0:16:35It's your chance to raise some money for Children in Need

0:16:35 > 0:16:39by creating one of ten winning designs that will go on sale

0:16:39 > 0:16:40later in the year.

0:16:40 > 0:16:44But you've got to be quick. You've only got a week. It's a whole week!

0:16:44 > 0:16:47The deadline is Monday the 23rd of May.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50Now, I've enlisted some of the help of the panel here,

0:16:50 > 0:16:52who have created some interesting designs...

0:16:52 > 0:16:54ROS CHUCKLES ..which may give you

0:16:54 > 0:16:55some food for thought.

0:16:55 > 0:16:57Lovely. Lovely.

0:16:57 > 0:17:00Maybe not this one. Not so much. LAUGHTER

0:17:00 > 0:17:04But if you think you can do better, get creative and spread the word.

0:17:04 > 0:17:08To enter, all the information and terms and conditions

0:17:08 > 0:17:09are on our website...

0:17:14 > 0:17:17Pentecost is a celebration of when the early Church was born,

0:17:17 > 0:17:20often described as the Church's birthday.

0:17:20 > 0:17:24So here's Downton star and singer Julian Ovenden to get us

0:17:24 > 0:17:27in the party mood with his version of Get Happy.

0:17:28 > 0:17:32# Forget your troubles and just get happy

0:17:32 > 0:17:36# You better chase all your cares away

0:17:36 > 0:17:40# Sing hallelujah, come on and get happy

0:17:40 > 0:17:44# Get ready for the Judgment Day

0:17:44 > 0:17:48# The sun is shining, come on and get happy

0:17:48 > 0:17:52# The Lord is waiting to take your hand

0:17:52 > 0:17:56# Shout hallelujah, come on and get happy

0:17:56 > 0:18:00# We're going to the Promised Land

0:18:00 > 0:18:04# We're heading 'cross the river

0:18:04 > 0:18:07# Wash your sins away in the tide

0:18:07 > 0:18:08# In the tide

0:18:08 > 0:18:12# It's all so peaceful

0:18:12 > 0:18:16# Peaceful on the other side

0:18:16 > 0:18:20# Forget your troubles and just get happy

0:18:20 > 0:18:24# You better chase all your cares away

0:18:24 > 0:18:26# Shout hallelujah, come on and get happy

0:18:26 > 0:18:28# Hallelujah!

0:18:28 > 0:18:32# Get ready for the Judgment Day

0:18:40 > 0:18:44# We're heading 'cross the river

0:18:44 > 0:18:47# Wash your sins away in the tide

0:18:47 > 0:18:48# In the tide

0:18:48 > 0:18:52# It's all so peaceful

0:18:52 > 0:18:58# Peaceful on the other side

0:18:58 > 0:19:01# Whoa-oh, whoa, whoa

0:19:01 > 0:19:04# Whoa, whoa, whoa

0:19:04 > 0:19:06# Whoa-oh, whoa, whoa

0:19:06 > 0:19:09# Forget your troubles, come on, get happy

0:19:09 > 0:19:10# So happy!

0:19:10 > 0:19:12# Come on and chase all your cares away

0:19:12 > 0:19:14# Come on, baby, by my side

0:19:14 > 0:19:17# Sing hallelujah, come on, get happy

0:19:17 > 0:19:20# Get happy, get ready

0:19:22 > 0:19:29# Get ready

0:19:29 > 0:19:34# For the Judgment Day

0:19:34 > 0:19:38# Get ready for the Judgment Day!

0:19:38 > 0:19:44# Oh, yes! #

0:19:46 > 0:19:49Next up is someone who is fully immersed in the digital world,

0:19:49 > 0:19:53with tens of thousands of followers online.

0:19:53 > 0:19:56Broadcaster and blogger Vicky Beeching is finding technology and

0:19:56 > 0:20:00tweets in a place you might usually associate with privacy and prayer.

0:20:04 > 0:20:08'Here in rural Herefordshire is the home of an award-winning blogger.

0:20:08 > 0:20:11'Her blogs, or online diaries, have gained quite a following.'

0:20:11 > 0:20:13Hello! Vicky!

0:20:13 > 0:20:17'Sister Catherine Wybourne lives in a Benedictine community,

0:20:17 > 0:20:21'and she's become known as the Digital Nun.'

0:20:21 > 0:20:25Well, this is my monastic cell, where I sleep, read,

0:20:25 > 0:20:28pray...and play with the internet.

0:20:28 > 0:20:33So this is Digital Nun HQ. You could call it that, definitely!

0:20:33 > 0:20:37'From this small room, her websites reach 120 countries

0:20:37 > 0:20:40'and her blog has half a million views a month.'

0:20:40 > 0:20:44When you blog, what sort of topics do you like to cover?

0:20:44 > 0:20:46Anything under the sun.

0:20:46 > 0:20:50I often use the liturgy or the rule of St Benedict or what's

0:20:50 > 0:20:52going on in the world around us.

0:20:52 > 0:20:55Has everyone in your circle of spiritual life been

0:20:55 > 0:20:58supportive of these online endeavours?

0:20:58 > 0:21:01I don't think I would say supportive.

0:21:01 > 0:21:03Erm, some people have been highly critical.

0:21:03 > 0:21:06But I think the Church must be wherever people are,

0:21:06 > 0:21:10and if we retreat from the online world, then I think

0:21:10 > 0:21:14the Church is retreating, too, into its own nice, cosy, safe backwater.

0:21:14 > 0:21:18Many of us find it difficult to put our gadgets down and unplug.

0:21:18 > 0:21:22How do you balance the monastic and the online?

0:21:22 > 0:21:26Well, if I'm writing the blog and the time for Lauds comes -

0:21:26 > 0:21:30that's the morning office of praise - I have to stop the blog

0:21:30 > 0:21:33not quite in the middle of a word

0:21:33 > 0:21:35but certainly at the end of the sentence.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38'And that's great, because it reminds one that there are things

0:21:38 > 0:21:41'rather more important than what one's doing online.

0:21:41 > 0:21:44'That's just an aspect of life.'

0:21:44 > 0:21:50# Quia quem meruisti portare

0:21:50 > 0:21:53# Hallelujah. #

0:21:53 > 0:21:57'Sister Catherine's not alone in her online pursuits.

0:21:57 > 0:21:59'Even the dog, known as Brother Duncan,

0:21:59 > 0:22:02'has his own internet presence.'

0:22:02 > 0:22:07He's my co-blogging partner. He says all the things I daren't,

0:22:07 > 0:22:09but he does like to blog about the big questions,

0:22:09 > 0:22:12so for example how human beings should love one another.

0:22:12 > 0:22:15And the spiritual life is really quire uncomplicated.

0:22:15 > 0:22:19After all, if even a dog can grasp it, we should be able to, too.

0:22:19 > 0:22:20VICKY LAUGHS

0:22:20 > 0:22:21Today's Pentecost Sunday,

0:22:21 > 0:22:25when we remember the Holy Spirit spreading the Gospel like wildfire.

0:22:25 > 0:22:27How do you see your vocation continuing that?

0:22:27 > 0:22:31Well, I think just as the Holy Spirit came down on the young Church

0:22:31 > 0:22:33and gave it the gift of tongues

0:22:33 > 0:22:37and there was Jesus' commission to proclaim the Gospel to all

0:22:37 > 0:22:40nations, I think the internet's given us

0:22:40 > 0:22:43another language that can reach every nation on the Earth.

0:25:21 > 0:25:24At Pentecost, churches all over the UK

0:25:24 > 0:25:26are reaching out to their communities in

0:25:26 > 0:25:30all sorts of ways, but have you ever heard of taking a church

0:25:30 > 0:25:32and putting it on wheels?

0:25:32 > 0:25:36Well, that's exactly what happened recently in Greater Manchester,

0:25:36 > 0:25:39and we sent Radzi to find out more.

0:25:42 > 0:25:46It's a lovely morning, and I'm on my way to church.

0:25:46 > 0:25:47Well, that's not strictly true.

0:25:47 > 0:25:51Actually, the church is on its way to me.

0:25:51 > 0:25:55This is the Mercy Bus, launched by the Roman Catholic

0:25:55 > 0:25:59diocese of Salford, which aims to take the church to the people.

0:26:01 > 0:26:06'The bus is the brainchild of a team led by Father Frankie Mulgrew.'

0:26:06 > 0:26:08The concept is that we're going to have priests on board

0:26:08 > 0:26:10and we're going to park up, and we open the doors

0:26:10 > 0:26:13and the priests are available for people to come on board,

0:26:13 > 0:26:16so either go to confession, receive a blessing or to have a chat

0:26:16 > 0:26:18about anything that might be troubling them.

0:26:18 > 0:26:20That's genuinely amazing.

0:26:20 > 0:26:23I'm a Catholic myself, and my church is nothing like this.

0:26:23 > 0:26:25Where did the inspiration come from?

0:26:25 > 0:26:28I think the inspiration came from Pope Francis himself.

0:26:28 > 0:26:30He's called this Jubilee Year of Mercy,

0:26:30 > 0:26:32and we need to be walking with people,

0:26:32 > 0:26:34we need to be walking next to people and side by side.

0:26:34 > 0:26:36The challenge is we need to be walking with them

0:26:36 > 0:26:38even when they're walking away from the Church.

0:26:38 > 0:26:41So we need to reach out to them, really.

0:26:43 > 0:26:46'Today's bus stop is a superstore car park in Bury,

0:26:46 > 0:26:48'where Father Frankie's team of volunteers

0:26:48 > 0:26:50'are waiting to be given their instructions.'

0:26:50 > 0:26:53May Almighty God bless you through the intercession of Our Lady,

0:26:53 > 0:26:56in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, amen.

0:26:56 > 0:26:58We need some people directly at this side,

0:26:58 > 0:27:00but we also need people out left.

0:27:01 > 0:27:04The bus offers the same private space for prayer and confession

0:27:04 > 0:27:05as any other church,

0:27:05 > 0:27:09meaning we need to stay outside with the Saturday shoppers,

0:27:09 > 0:27:13and it's not long before the bus attracts its first visitors.

0:27:13 > 0:27:16I think nothing can really replace the church in terms of the

0:27:16 > 0:27:19experience you would get, but reaching out to the people

0:27:19 > 0:27:22is what it's really about and having the bus here has been incredible,

0:27:22 > 0:27:24really amazing experience.

0:27:24 > 0:27:28People can go on it if they can't get to church

0:27:28 > 0:27:30because they might be busy on some days.

0:27:30 > 0:27:33It might be on schooldays, as well.

0:27:33 > 0:27:35So they can just hop on the bus and talk to the priest.

0:27:39 > 0:27:41Today we've had a great response.

0:27:41 > 0:27:44I mean, we've had about 120 visitors on board the bus

0:27:44 > 0:27:46and there's people that we're meeting

0:27:46 > 0:27:49that they just can't cross the threshold of a church right now,

0:27:49 > 0:27:52so we're coming to meet them halfway, basically.

0:27:52 > 0:27:54And the hope is that when they come on board the bus,

0:27:54 > 0:27:56what they experience on the bus will then inform them

0:27:56 > 0:28:00and help them to make that next step across the church threshold.

0:31:00 > 0:31:05APPLAUSE

0:31:07 > 0:31:10Well, it seems to me that both the digital

0:31:10 > 0:31:13and traditional way of spreading the word

0:31:13 > 0:31:14can exist happily side-by-side,

0:31:14 > 0:31:17as the Christian message is shared

0:31:17 > 0:31:19amongst so many different communities.

0:31:19 > 0:31:24Next week, Pam Rhodes finds out how the re-creation of a 1950s street

0:31:24 > 0:31:26is helping people with dementia,

0:31:26 > 0:31:28and in Liverpool, Claire McCollum

0:31:28 > 0:31:34celebrates a spectacular pageant inspired by Pope John Paul II.

0:31:34 > 0:31:35Until then, our closing hymn

0:31:35 > 0:31:39asks for the Holy Spirit to be a part of our lives today.

0:31:39 > 0:31:41Thank you for watching. Goodbye.

0:34:08 > 0:34:09I want a nice, bold stripe.

0:34:09 > 0:34:11Lace, lace, lace...

0:34:11 > 0:34:12Oh, the haberdashery is amazing.

0:34:12 > 0:34:16# Living in a material world... #

0:34:16 > 0:34:18So that's your skirt so far? We've made you panic.

0:34:18 > 0:34:20It's very hard not to panic!

0:34:20 > 0:34:23Ah! # Living in a material world... #

0:34:23 > 0:34:25It's sexy. Is she making you blush?