0:00:03 > 0:00:05Hello, and today on Songs Of Praise,
0:00:05 > 0:00:08I'm about to join a very special pilgrimage
0:00:08 > 0:00:11with the Archbishop of York, John Sentamu.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13- Lovely to see you. - Nice to see you, John.
0:00:13 > 0:00:15You've already been pounding the roads, haven't you?
0:00:15 > 0:00:18For 76 days. And today, you're in Hull. So may I join you?
0:00:18 > 0:00:20Yes, please, you're welcome.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22The locals have turned out to support the Archbishop,
0:00:22 > 0:00:26and he gets questioned by some straight-talking schoolchildren.
0:00:26 > 0:00:28What's it like to be an Archbishop?
0:00:31 > 0:00:34# Sail away, sail away, sail away... #
0:00:34 > 0:00:38She was born in Donegal, she now lives in Dublin.
0:00:38 > 0:00:40I'm in Ireland's capital city to meet up with
0:00:40 > 0:00:43one of the world's bestselling artists, Enya.
0:00:43 > 0:00:47JOHN: And she'll be giving us a special performance.
0:00:49 > 0:00:53While Aled is looking ahead to our annual school choirs competition.
0:00:53 > 0:00:57- Out of 10, how brilliant were you? - 10!- 10!
0:00:57 > 0:00:58THEY ALL CHEER
0:01:07 > 0:01:08And as well as all the walking,
0:01:08 > 0:01:11we've got a great selection of hymns for you,
0:01:11 > 0:01:14including one chosen by the Archbishop himself.
0:01:14 > 0:01:16And as today marks the start of Holy Week,
0:01:16 > 0:01:20we open, very fittingly, with a gospel song from Birmingham.
0:03:32 > 0:03:34The Archbishop of York, John Sentamu,
0:03:34 > 0:03:37one of the most senior leaders in the Church of England,
0:03:37 > 0:03:39is spending six months out on the road.
0:03:39 > 0:03:42He's on a pilgrimage to the Diocese of York,
0:03:42 > 0:03:46an area of nearly 3,000 square miles.
0:03:47 > 0:03:52The Archbishop will be visiting all 21 Deaneries in the Diocese.
0:03:52 > 0:03:54He began last December in Whitby.
0:03:54 > 0:03:56He'll end eventually in York,
0:03:56 > 0:03:58and he's travelled through coast and dale
0:03:58 > 0:04:00in all weathers to reach Hull.
0:04:02 > 0:04:04It's quite an undertaking for the 66-year-old,
0:04:04 > 0:04:08who's now over halfway into his 2,000 mile journey.
0:04:10 > 0:04:12Well, you're better kitted out than I am.
0:04:12 > 0:04:16Well, I've been walking for three months, so I should know!
0:04:17 > 0:04:21I caught up with the Archbishop on the latest leg
0:04:21 > 0:04:24of his pilgrimage through the streets of Hull.
0:04:24 > 0:04:27You know, I can't help thinking that pilgrimage, to me,
0:04:27 > 0:04:29in this context, is a bit of a strange word
0:04:29 > 0:04:32because I think of a pilgrimage as going
0:04:32 > 0:04:34on a journey to a holy place.
0:04:34 > 0:04:36And you're walking around your Diocese.
0:04:36 > 0:04:40Well, simply because Christians, by nature, are called pilgrims.
0:04:40 > 0:04:43They are always journeying towards God.
0:04:43 > 0:04:46And what I am trying to let the Diocese,
0:04:46 > 0:04:52that it should also go on a journey towards God, towards one another.
0:04:52 > 0:04:56I also happen to think that every place is holy because God made it.
0:04:58 > 0:05:03The pilgrimage has generated quite a buzz amongst the locals.
0:05:03 > 0:05:06Come on, wave! Come on, John, you have to as well. Hello!
0:05:07 > 0:05:11- Hi.- Are you all right? What's her name?- This is Emily.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14- Emily! You are lovely.- Yeah.
0:05:14 > 0:05:17Good, I'm glad you know you are lovely!
0:05:17 > 0:05:20Here are some bookmarks, one is for you, hello?
0:05:20 > 0:05:22And one is for Mum.
0:05:22 > 0:05:23- Thank you.- OK?
0:05:23 > 0:05:27- Have a good day, bye-bye. - Bye-bye.- Take care.
0:05:27 > 0:05:29- Whoo! - THEY ALL LAUGH
0:05:29 > 0:05:31As well as chance encounters,
0:05:31 > 0:05:34Archbishop Sentamu has some scheduled shops,
0:05:34 > 0:05:38visiting a range of community projects to offer his support.
0:05:39 > 0:05:42His next calling point is the local Methodist church,
0:05:42 > 0:05:45and the Open Doors project,
0:05:45 > 0:05:48which provides practical help to asylum seekers.
0:05:48 > 0:05:53Why is it important to you to visit a centre like this?
0:05:53 > 0:05:55We are bidded in Scripture
0:05:55 > 0:06:00to always look after the stranger within your gaze.
0:06:00 > 0:06:02Hence the words of Open Door, that strangers,
0:06:02 > 0:06:05we should look after them, care for them,
0:06:05 > 0:06:08and I believe that the Church should be in places
0:06:08 > 0:06:10where no-one really wants to go.
0:06:13 > 0:06:15This is a subject close to the Archbishop's heart,
0:06:15 > 0:06:18as he came to Britain in 1974
0:06:18 > 0:06:21seeking asylum from Idi Amin's Uganda.
0:06:21 > 0:06:23Hello, Bashir. Come on, give us a hug, come on.
0:06:23 > 0:06:26- You're all right?- Yes, thank you.
0:06:26 > 0:06:28'Having the Church authority
0:06:28 > 0:06:31'and Church leadership is a great honour for us.'
0:06:31 > 0:06:34And this project is very important to me,
0:06:34 > 0:06:38because being a Christian, it gives me opportunity
0:06:38 > 0:06:40to put my faith into practice.
0:06:40 > 0:06:44To feed those who are hungry and help those who are in need.
0:06:46 > 0:06:50The centre also offers advice and basic English language classes.
0:06:51 > 0:06:54It's a fairly crude assessment, that I say,
0:06:54 > 0:06:56how much English do you know?
0:06:56 > 0:06:58And if people go...
0:06:58 > 0:07:00That's the first group.
0:07:00 > 0:07:02This is the second group, and their English is a lot better.
0:07:02 > 0:07:06So we explore slightly different subjects.
0:07:07 > 0:07:09THEY SING IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE
0:07:09 > 0:07:11Later in the programme,
0:07:11 > 0:07:14Archbishop Sentamu demonstrates his musical skills
0:07:14 > 0:07:16and he goes back to school.
0:07:16 > 0:07:19Well, now here's a hymn that the Archbishop has chosen himself,
0:07:19 > 0:07:22and it's being sung here in Yorkshire.
0:10:03 > 0:10:05Now, we have a rare interview with an artist
0:10:05 > 0:10:08whose voice is instantly recognisable.
0:10:08 > 0:10:10Claire McCollum has been to meet her.
0:10:12 > 0:10:15# Sail away, sail away, sail away... #
0:10:16 > 0:10:19Enya has sold over 80 million albums.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22She cites her own musical influences
0:10:22 > 0:10:25as classical, Irish and church music.
0:10:25 > 0:10:28So it's very fitting that she's going to perform for us today
0:10:28 > 0:10:32in the beautiful and historic chapel here at All Hallows College.
0:10:32 > 0:10:35This college dates back to 1842,
0:10:35 > 0:10:39when a seminary was founded to train priests for missionary work.
0:10:39 > 0:10:42I was delighted to be able to have a chat with Enya
0:10:42 > 0:10:45about her music, life and faith.
0:10:45 > 0:10:49# Who can say where the road goes?
0:10:49 > 0:10:53# Where the day flows?
0:10:53 > 0:10:55# Only time... #
0:10:56 > 0:10:59Enya doesn't live her life in the glare of publicity.
0:10:59 > 0:11:01You're a very private person yourself,
0:11:01 > 0:11:03but what is it, do you think, about your music
0:11:03 > 0:11:06that connects with so many people right around the world?
0:11:06 > 0:11:10It's a good question, because from the first album, Watermark,
0:11:10 > 0:11:13to me, all the songs were very diverse.
0:11:13 > 0:11:17I was singing in Gaelic, I was singing in Latin.
0:11:17 > 0:11:20Orinoco Flow is what everybody heard firstly,
0:11:20 > 0:11:24but when they bought the album, it was very different.
0:11:24 > 0:11:26# Let me sail, let me sail
0:11:26 > 0:11:28# Let the Orinoco flow
0:11:28 > 0:11:31# Let me reach, let me beach... #
0:11:31 > 0:11:33'What I felt for the listener
0:11:33 > 0:11:36'is that they seemed to enjoy the songs first,'
0:11:36 > 0:11:41and then they seemed to interpret their own emotions with the song.
0:11:41 > 0:11:44And then the song became their song.
0:11:44 > 0:11:47What does that mean to you, knowing that your music
0:11:47 > 0:11:49has such a wonderful effect on so many people
0:11:49 > 0:11:51in times of maybe trouble,
0:11:51 > 0:11:54or things that they're going through, that just help them?
0:11:54 > 0:11:58To me, when I write a melody, firstly,
0:11:58 > 0:12:03it's something emotionally that I feel strong about.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06And I want to capture this moment in a melody.
0:12:06 > 0:12:09And for me, it's very personal then.
0:12:09 > 0:12:13# What a day, what a day To take to... #
0:12:13 > 0:12:17'You know, I've heard people have gotten married to the music,
0:12:17 > 0:12:20'people who are meditating listen to the music.
0:12:20 > 0:12:23'And I feel that that is so wonderful.'
0:12:23 > 0:12:26That is really an extra bonus
0:12:26 > 0:12:30to sort of working on something that is very important to me.
0:12:30 > 0:12:34You come from one of the most beautiful places in the world.
0:12:34 > 0:12:35Do you think you draw on
0:12:35 > 0:12:37your experiences in Donegal in your music?
0:12:37 > 0:12:40Very much so. Very much so.
0:12:40 > 0:12:44Any time I go home, I can see where the inspirations are
0:12:44 > 0:12:47for some of the songs, has carried through the years with me.
0:12:47 > 0:12:53At four years of age, going into the choir in the church,
0:12:53 > 0:12:57and that's a big influence to me, Gregorian chant,
0:12:57 > 0:12:59singing in Latin, singing in Gaelic.
0:12:59 > 0:13:01# Hallelujah
0:13:01 > 0:13:04# Halle, halle, hallelujah... #
0:13:04 > 0:13:08I'm not aware at the moment, you know, when I go to the studio,
0:13:08 > 0:13:10what will evolve musically.
0:13:10 > 0:13:14But definitely the inspirations of Donegal are there.
0:13:14 > 0:13:17And you talk about church music being a huge influence as well,
0:13:17 > 0:13:19how important is faith in your life?
0:13:19 > 0:13:23It's something to me, I feel a very spiritual person.
0:13:23 > 0:13:28And I feel very comfortable to go to a church.
0:13:28 > 0:13:33It's very therapeutic to sit there, light a candle, and pray.
0:13:33 > 0:13:36It's a moment where you think of other people,
0:13:36 > 0:13:39and I feel that that's something that will stay with me.
0:13:39 > 0:13:42You're going to perform for us today, which is very special.
0:13:42 > 0:13:44Tell us about the song you're going to sing.
0:13:44 > 0:13:49It's taking a moment on, really the influence of your parent,
0:13:49 > 0:13:51as such, when you lose a parent.
0:13:51 > 0:13:54It's more sort of celebration of the moment rather than
0:13:54 > 0:13:58the loss of the parent, because they were there to guide you.
0:13:58 > 0:14:01Their hopes are there for you, they held you high,
0:14:01 > 0:14:05they wanted the best for you, and this is what the song is about.
0:14:09 > 0:14:17# A thousand dreams you gave to me
0:14:17 > 0:14:21# You held me high
0:14:21 > 0:14:25# You held me high
0:14:25 > 0:14:33# And all those years you guided me
0:14:33 > 0:14:39# So I could find my way
0:14:42 > 0:14:49# So, let me give this dream to you
0:14:49 > 0:14:55# Upon another shore
0:14:57 > 0:15:05# So, let me give this dream to you
0:15:05 > 0:15:12# Each night and evermore
0:15:14 > 0:15:21# Yet only time keeps us apart
0:15:21 > 0:15:25# You held me high
0:15:25 > 0:15:29# You held me high
0:15:29 > 0:15:37# You're in the shadows of my heart
0:15:37 > 0:15:43# So I can find my way
0:15:45 > 0:15:49# Mmmm-mmm-mmm
0:15:49 > 0:15:52# Mmmm-mmmmmm
0:15:52 > 0:15:56# You held me high
0:15:56 > 0:16:00# You held me high
0:16:00 > 0:16:05# Mmmm-mmm-mmm
0:16:05 > 0:16:09# Mmmm-mmmmmm
0:16:09 > 0:16:13# Mmmmm-mmmm
0:16:13 > 0:16:16# Mmmm
0:16:16 > 0:16:24# So, let me give this dream to you
0:16:24 > 0:16:31# Upon another shore
0:16:31 > 0:16:40# So, let me give this dream to you
0:16:40 > 0:16:47# Each night and evermore
0:16:49 > 0:16:56# A thousand dreams you gave to me
0:16:56 > 0:17:00# You held me high
0:17:00 > 0:17:04# You held me high
0:17:04 > 0:17:12# And all those years you guided me
0:17:12 > 0:17:18# So I could find my way
0:17:20 > 0:17:27# So I could find my way. #
0:17:37 > 0:17:39Coming up, Aled goes behind the scenes
0:17:39 > 0:17:42of this year's School Choir Of The Year competition.
0:17:43 > 0:17:45But first, at the start of Holy Week,
0:17:45 > 0:17:48our next hymn tells the story of Palm Sunday.
0:20:06 > 0:20:08It's one of the most exciting weekends
0:20:08 > 0:20:10in the Songs Of Praise calendar, we look forward to it all year.
0:20:10 > 0:20:13Welcome to Sheffield, we're at the City Hall
0:20:13 > 0:20:15and when the choirs arrived this morning, let me tell you,
0:20:15 > 0:20:19excitement was sky-high, they hadn't even stepped onto stage yet.
0:20:20 > 0:20:23The day is the culmination of months of hard work
0:20:23 > 0:20:25and preparation for the choirs.
0:20:25 > 0:20:27They've been rehearsing their pieces at school
0:20:27 > 0:20:30whenever they've had a moment.
0:20:30 > 0:20:33Here in Sheffield, the choirs have a busy day with a tight schedule
0:20:33 > 0:20:36of rehearsals before the competition starts.
0:20:36 > 0:20:39But there's still plenty of time to get to know the other choirs
0:20:39 > 0:20:42as they all relax together in the holding room.
0:20:42 > 0:20:43Hello!
0:20:43 > 0:20:45Wow, there's tonnes of them. Come on!
0:20:45 > 0:20:47Hi! Have you been on stage yet?
0:20:47 > 0:20:49- ALL:- Yes. - How did it go?
0:20:49 > 0:20:50- ALL:- Good!
0:20:50 > 0:20:52- Out of ten, how brilliant were you? ALL:- Ten!
0:20:52 > 0:20:53Ten.
0:20:53 > 0:20:57- Are you nervous?- Yes!- No!- Yes!
0:20:57 > 0:20:59Yes, says this one. No, says that one.
0:21:01 > 0:21:04The judges tasked with the really tough job of choosing
0:21:04 > 0:21:07the winners this year are Katherine Jenkins...
0:21:07 > 0:21:09I think the standard is going to be incredibly high.
0:21:09 > 0:21:11I think that we've got a great tradition in the UK
0:21:11 > 0:21:18for choral singing and I think that actually these children are going to
0:21:18 > 0:21:22probably blow our socks off in terms of what they can actually produce.
0:21:22 > 0:21:24..choral expert Ken Burton...
0:21:24 > 0:21:26Over the last couple of decades,
0:21:26 > 0:21:27I've been involved in choral competitions
0:21:27 > 0:21:30and I've just seen how choirs have grown
0:21:30 > 0:21:32and they've become a lot more ambitious.
0:21:32 > 0:21:35So I'm really looking forward to seeing what the choirs
0:21:35 > 0:21:37are going to pull out of the hat this time.
0:21:37 > 0:21:39..and our very own Connie Fisher.
0:21:39 > 0:21:41- Hiya!- How are you? - I'm all right, how are you?
0:21:41 > 0:21:44Gosh, you judges get a nice dressing room, don't you?
0:21:44 > 0:21:45- Make-up on you.- Make-up...
0:21:45 > 0:21:47Firstly, as a judge, why do you need six pairs of shoes?
0:21:47 > 0:21:49You can never have too many pairs of shoes.
0:21:49 > 0:21:52- I suppose not. Are you looking forward to this?- I am.
0:21:52 > 0:21:55- First time.- First time, yes, I feel, you know, honoured actually
0:21:55 > 0:21:58to be sat in the chair. I feel quite, you know...
0:21:58 > 0:22:00- I'm sat next to Katherine Jenkins. - Yeah?- I'm really nervous.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03- And Ken Burton as well.- I know. They're going to out-glam me!
0:22:03 > 0:22:04Not possible.
0:22:04 > 0:22:07- It's quite a nerve-racking thing though, isn't it?- It is.
0:22:07 > 0:22:09It's the responsibility because all throughout the year,
0:22:09 > 0:22:12they're putting so much effort into singing one song to impress us
0:22:12 > 0:22:14and you think, "Well, I'm not really worthy",
0:22:14 > 0:22:17but actually I grew up in a choir and I know what it's like.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19And you're no stranger to competitions.
0:22:19 > 0:22:21Well, yeah, I feel their nerves.
0:22:21 > 0:22:24I know what it's like to go out there thinking,
0:22:24 > 0:22:27"I really want to win this", and so, yeah, I'm really feeling for them.
0:22:29 > 0:22:32I tell you what, it's gearing up to be a fabulous competition
0:22:32 > 0:22:33with all these guys.
0:22:33 > 0:22:38It all starts on April 3rd, keep watching, you'd be mad to miss it.
0:22:38 > 0:22:44Until then, here are the Junior Winners from 2013.
0:22:44 > 0:22:46# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:22:46 > 0:22:48- # Jericho - Joshua
0:22:48 > 0:22:49- # Jericho - Joshua fought the battle
0:22:49 > 0:22:51# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:22:51 > 0:22:54- # As the walls came a-tumbling down - In the morning
0:22:54 > 0:22:57# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:22:57 > 0:22:58- # Jericho - Joshua
0:22:58 > 0:23:00- # Jericho - Joshua fought the battle
0:23:00 > 0:23:02# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:23:02 > 0:23:05# As the walls came a-tumbling down
0:23:05 > 0:23:08# You may talk about your kings of Gideon
0:23:08 > 0:23:11# You may talk about your men of Saul
0:23:11 > 0:23:14# But there's none like good old Joshua
0:23:14 > 0:23:16# At the battle of Jericho
0:23:16 > 0:23:17# I'm singing
0:23:17 > 0:23:20# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:23:20 > 0:23:21- # Jericho - Joshua
0:23:21 > 0:23:22- # Jericho - Joshua fought the battle
0:23:22 > 0:23:25# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:23:25 > 0:23:28- # As the walls came a-tumbling down - In the morning
0:23:28 > 0:23:31# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:23:31 > 0:23:32- # Jericho - Joshua
0:23:32 > 0:23:34- # Jericho - Joshua fought the battle
0:23:34 > 0:23:36# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:23:36 > 0:23:38# As the walls came a-tumbling down
0:23:38 > 0:23:41# Then up to the walls of Jericho
0:23:41 > 0:23:44# They marched with spear in hand
0:23:44 > 0:23:47# Now blow your trumpets, Joshua cried
0:23:47 > 0:23:49# For the battle is in my hand
0:23:49 > 0:23:51# I'm singing
0:23:51 > 0:23:53# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:23:53 > 0:23:54- # Jericho - Joshua
0:23:54 > 0:23:56- # Jericho - Joshua fought the battle
0:23:56 > 0:23:58# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:23:58 > 0:24:01- # As the walls came a-tumbling down - In the morning
0:24:01 > 0:24:04# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:24:04 > 0:24:06- # Jericho - Joshua
0:24:06 > 0:24:07- # Jericho - Joshua fought the battle
0:24:07 > 0:24:09# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:24:09 > 0:24:12# As the walls came a-tumbling down
0:24:12 > 0:24:14# Joshua
0:24:14 > 0:24:15# Fought the battle of Jericho
0:24:15 > 0:24:16# Joshua
0:24:16 > 0:24:18# Fought the battle of Jericho
0:24:18 > 0:24:19# Joshua
0:24:19 > 0:24:21# Fought the battle of Jericho
0:24:21 > 0:24:24# The walls came tumbling down
0:24:24 > 0:24:26# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho
0:24:26 > 0:24:29# And the walls came a-tumbling down. #
0:24:34 > 0:24:37Today, we've been accompanying the Archbishop of York,
0:24:37 > 0:24:38John Sentamu,
0:24:38 > 0:24:42on his six-month pilgrimage around the Dioceses of York.
0:24:44 > 0:24:46THEY SING
0:24:46 > 0:24:49He's at the Open Doors project in Hull
0:24:49 > 0:24:53where he's livening things up by joining the centre's music session.
0:25:00 > 0:25:04Cecil came here from Sierra Leone ten years ago
0:25:04 > 0:25:06and he's now a volunteer.
0:25:06 > 0:25:10The very first day I stepped my feet into Hull, I mean,
0:25:10 > 0:25:13I was lost in terms of direction but when I got here,
0:25:13 > 0:25:16I was received with open hands
0:25:16 > 0:25:18and I was shown the way
0:25:18 > 0:25:21and I thought, you know, it's a place to be
0:25:21 > 0:25:25and I decided to give my time, my everything,
0:25:25 > 0:25:27as a volunteer and give every support.
0:25:27 > 0:25:32Most of us have received much and we need to freely give
0:25:32 > 0:25:34and put back more than actually what we take out
0:25:34 > 0:25:37so I'm very glad that you are following that particular rule.
0:25:37 > 0:25:41- Thank you.- OK?- Yes, I am, I am proud of it as well
0:25:41 > 0:25:44and I'm following your footsteps. Maybe one day I'll be where you are.
0:25:44 > 0:25:46THEY LAUGH
0:25:48 > 0:25:51The pilgrimage continues as the Archbishop turns his attention
0:25:51 > 0:25:55to the future generation and the children at Thoresby Primary School.
0:25:55 > 0:26:00Welcome to Thoresby and you are now part of Team Thoresby.
0:26:00 > 0:26:03- Am I?- How about that? - But I haven't got the uniform.
0:26:03 > 0:26:06But he does change into something more befitting
0:26:06 > 0:26:09as he takes questions from the children.
0:26:09 > 0:26:13What is your really important job?
0:26:13 > 0:26:15You know, I don't believe I'm doing a job.
0:26:15 > 0:26:20I believe I have been called by God, first of all, to know him,
0:26:20 > 0:26:23secondly, to love him,
0:26:23 > 0:26:26and then to tell other people about him
0:26:26 > 0:26:28and then to serve the poor in the world.
0:26:28 > 0:26:30That's what I see.
0:26:30 > 0:26:33Why do you work at churches?
0:26:33 > 0:26:37- When I turn up to church, I'm going to a party.- Oh.
0:26:37 > 0:26:40A very big celebration of joy, of hope.
0:26:40 > 0:26:44'Young people have a way of simplicity,
0:26:44 > 0:26:48'they tell it like it is but the energy and the drive,'
0:26:48 > 0:26:50Paul says to young Timothy,
0:26:50 > 0:26:52"Let nobody despise your youth because you are young",
0:26:52 > 0:26:55because you've got gifts and abilities
0:26:55 > 0:26:57and all our children are young people,
0:26:57 > 0:27:00each has a talent and a gift.
0:27:00 > 0:27:04So when I come into the schools, I go away energised
0:27:04 > 0:27:08full of hope, full of gladness and I think it's wonderful.
0:27:08 > 0:27:12Out in the playground, the questions become a little more personal.
0:27:12 > 0:27:14- Huh?- Cheese or ham? - Which one do you prefer?
0:27:14 > 0:27:18- Cheese or ham?- At the moment, I'm, er....
0:27:18 > 0:27:20- It's cheese. - CHEERING
0:27:20 > 0:27:23Why did you become the Archbishop of York?
0:27:23 > 0:27:25I was asked by the Queen.
0:27:25 > 0:27:27What's it like to be an Archbishop?
0:27:27 > 0:27:31It's like any job with responsibility,
0:27:31 > 0:27:34it's got wonderful things in it and difficult things in it.
0:27:34 > 0:27:37And it's a really good job because you actually help the world.
0:27:37 > 0:27:40- Yeah, yeah, exactly.- That's what I've always wanted to do.
0:27:40 > 0:27:42- OK, maybe you'll end up being a bishop, huh?- Yeah.
0:27:42 > 0:27:45- Are you going to be one of those? - I'd try.
0:27:45 > 0:27:47Yeah, you'll try to. That's good news.
0:27:48 > 0:27:50There you go.
0:27:50 > 0:27:52He'll never forget that, a high-five from the Archbishop.
0:27:52 > 0:27:54- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - THEY LAUGH
0:27:54 > 0:27:58SCHOOL BELL RINGS
0:27:58 > 0:28:00Well, that's the end of the school day
0:28:00 > 0:28:02but it's certainly not the end of your pilgrimage, is it?
0:28:02 > 0:28:05- No, it isn't.- What do you think you've learnt so far?
0:28:05 > 0:28:07The beauty of Yorkshire,
0:28:07 > 0:28:11the amazing people that I've been encountering
0:28:11 > 0:28:15and the gospel of Jesus Christ is still very much alive.
0:28:15 > 0:28:18And this, of course, is the start of Holy Week,
0:28:18 > 0:28:20what does it really mean to you?
0:28:20 > 0:28:25Well, Holy Week, of course, begins with Jesus' triumphal entry
0:28:25 > 0:28:27into Jerusalem where the children gather
0:28:27 > 0:28:30and they're singing and shouting, "Hosanna, hosanna!",
0:28:30 > 0:28:32meaning, "Save us now, Lord".
0:28:32 > 0:28:36And that triumphal entry, I'm afraid, on a Friday,
0:28:36 > 0:28:38ends in his crucifixion.
0:31:07 > 0:31:09Thank you for letting me join in your pilgrimage.
0:31:09 > 0:31:11You've still got a long way to go, though, don't you?
0:31:11 > 0:31:13Yes, a long way to go until the 22nd of May
0:31:13 > 0:31:15- but it's been a pleasure walking with you.- Thank you.
0:31:15 > 0:31:18Well, next week it's Easter Sunday and Pam Rhodes will be
0:31:18 > 0:31:22going behind the scenes of the Poole Passion Play in Dorset
0:31:22 > 0:31:26to discover how it's changed the lives of those taking part.
0:31:26 > 0:31:29Until then, it is our closing hymn for Palm Sunday.
0:31:29 > 0:31:31Goodbye and God bless.