0:00:02 > 0:00:04It's all aboard this week on Songs Of Praise
0:00:04 > 0:00:07as I step back in time to the age of steam
0:00:07 > 0:00:11and journey along the famous Carlisle-Settle line.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13TRAIN WHISTLE
0:00:13 > 0:00:16We're here at Carlisle, heading south. I'm getting onboard.
0:00:16 > 0:00:19Come on, lets go!
0:00:19 > 0:00:23My route today takes me across the magnificent Ribblehead Viaduct,
0:00:23 > 0:00:25and I'll be finding out about the workers
0:00:25 > 0:00:29who risked their lives to build this remarkable bridge.
0:00:30 > 0:00:31Also on today's programme,
0:00:31 > 0:00:34Kate Bottley meets a mother determined to make sure
0:00:34 > 0:00:39the tragic loss of her son due to a gambling addiction wasn't in vain.
0:00:39 > 0:00:44All I want to do is to prevent other people going through the same hell,
0:00:44 > 0:00:47because it was hell, as we did.
0:00:48 > 0:00:50And Richard Taylor is on Pendle Hill,
0:00:50 > 0:00:53looking for the birthplace of the Quakers.
0:01:01 > 0:01:03TRAIN WHISTLE
0:01:03 > 0:01:06I'm in travelling in style on one of the most beautiful
0:01:06 > 0:01:08railway journeys in the world.
0:01:08 > 0:01:13From the Cumbrian hills, the line slices through the Yorkshire Dales.
0:01:13 > 0:01:16It really makes you marvel at God's creation.
0:01:16 > 0:01:18In fact, it makes me want to sing out loud,
0:01:18 > 0:01:21except that I don't want to get thrown off the train.
0:03:59 > 0:04:02The Settle-Carlisle line opened in 1876.
0:04:02 > 0:04:07Along the 72 miles of track are 15 tunnels and 24 viaducts.
0:04:07 > 0:04:10Today, people have travelled far and wide
0:04:10 > 0:04:12to ride on this historic railway.
0:04:15 > 0:04:17It's the most beautiful, scenic route.
0:04:17 > 0:04:19I mean, there's countryside here none of us have ever seen.
0:04:19 > 0:04:22And it is truly spectacular.
0:04:23 > 0:04:26I love riding this line. It's my favourite railway line.
0:04:27 > 0:04:29Steam locomotives, they excite all the senses.
0:04:29 > 0:04:31They're beautiful to look at,
0:04:31 > 0:04:34beautiful to listen to and even the smell is just wonderful.
0:04:36 > 0:04:38And this is the moment all the passengers and sightseers
0:04:38 > 0:04:42have been waiting for, crossing the famous Ribblehead Viaduct.
0:04:46 > 0:04:49At a quarter-of-a-mile long, with 24 arches,
0:04:49 > 0:04:52some up to 165 ft high,
0:04:52 > 0:04:56it's astonishing to think that this viaduct was built
0:04:56 > 0:04:58using mostly manual labour.
0:05:00 > 0:05:04Before joining the train, I took a closer look at this magnificent
0:05:04 > 0:05:08example of Victorian engineering with railway historian Bryan Gray.
0:05:08 > 0:05:11- Hello, Bryan. Lovely to meet you. - Good to see you.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14Bryan, this is spectacular. How was it built?
0:05:14 > 0:05:16It was built by navvies.
0:05:16 > 0:05:19Navvies were the navigators of the Canal Age.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21Navigator was shortened to navvy.
0:05:21 > 0:05:25So the railway navvies built this viaduct and this railway.
0:05:25 > 0:05:28They came from all over England and Scotland and Ireland
0:05:28 > 0:05:30and they moved from project to project.
0:05:30 > 0:05:33Probably 2,000 people were involved in total
0:05:33 > 0:05:36in building this railway line,
0:05:36 > 0:05:39so they had to establish, really, a small town here,
0:05:39 > 0:05:41in which they lived for six years.
0:05:41 > 0:05:43Where we're standing, they built a town?
0:05:43 > 0:05:47- It was actually a set of nine individual communities.- Yeah.
0:05:47 > 0:05:49And they gave them names.
0:05:49 > 0:05:51So we had Jericho and Jerusalem,
0:05:51 > 0:05:54because they had rudimentary Bible knowledge.
0:05:54 > 0:05:58Up on the hill behind us, in a slightly posher area, was Belgravia.
0:05:58 > 0:06:01On average, there were seven people living in a hut,
0:06:01 > 0:06:03and there were a lot of children.
0:06:03 > 0:06:05So about 100 children under 10 lived on this site.
0:06:05 > 0:06:07When you're over 10, you started working, of course.
0:06:07 > 0:06:09What did they do for schools?
0:06:09 > 0:06:12The railway companies built schools, they built shops,
0:06:12 > 0:06:16they built a church and a rudimentary hospital.
0:06:16 > 0:06:18You said they built a church.
0:06:18 > 0:06:22I mean, who looked after their spiritual wellbeing?
0:06:22 > 0:06:25When I say a church, it wasn't a church with a spire, it was a wooden hut.
0:06:25 > 0:06:27- A wooden hut.- Used as a church.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30Well, um...this was the Victorian Age, when people,
0:06:30 > 0:06:34I think the great managers and entrepreneurs of the day
0:06:34 > 0:06:38did care, actually, about the spiritual wellbeing of the workers.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42And, of course, they thought that people who were looked after
0:06:42 > 0:06:44would work harder, as well.
0:06:44 > 0:06:48The railway company paid for two ministers, who would talk to them.
0:06:48 > 0:06:51Preaching to them and being there for them.
0:06:51 > 0:06:53Particularly sitting with their...
0:06:53 > 0:06:56On their sickbeds, for example, when they were ill,
0:06:56 > 0:06:59and just giving them encouragement when they were perhaps
0:06:59 > 0:07:01depressed at living in such a wild place.
0:07:03 > 0:07:05It was a tough life for workers and their families
0:07:05 > 0:07:09and an outbreak of smallpox in 1870 made things worse,
0:07:09 > 0:07:11with the disease claiming many victims.
0:07:11 > 0:07:14In this local church in Chapel-le-Dale,
0:07:14 > 0:07:18the number of funerals went up from two a year to 60.
0:07:20 > 0:07:24David, this is a plaque that the railway company erected
0:07:24 > 0:07:28to commemorate all the navvies and their families
0:07:28 > 0:07:32who lost their lives during the construction of the railway.
0:07:34 > 0:07:37Around 200 of them, including children,
0:07:37 > 0:07:39are buried in the churchyard.
0:07:39 > 0:07:42They couldn't afford proper graves and memorials,
0:07:42 > 0:07:45so this is one large, mass grave.
0:07:45 > 0:07:48It is really difficult to believe that these people
0:07:48 > 0:07:50gave up their lives for a railway
0:07:50 > 0:07:53that is just a short distance from where we stand today.
0:07:53 > 0:07:57At least the viaduct still stands as a memorial to all they gave.
0:09:40 > 0:09:43We're travelling through the beautiful Yorkshire Dales
0:09:43 > 0:09:45and it's glorious.
0:09:45 > 0:09:48Just to the southwest of us, across the moors, Richard Taylor
0:09:48 > 0:09:52has been following in the footsteps of a radical Christian trailblazer.
0:09:56 > 0:10:01In the summer of 1652, just after the end of the English Civil War,
0:10:01 > 0:10:04a young man called George Fox climbed here,
0:10:04 > 0:10:06Pendle Hill in Lancashire.
0:10:06 > 0:10:08When he reached the summit,
0:10:08 > 0:10:12he would experience a vision which would change the world.
0:10:15 > 0:10:17George Fox was a seeker.
0:10:17 > 0:10:20Brought up in Leicestershire, in his late teens,
0:10:20 > 0:10:23he felt an inner voice calling him to leave home
0:10:23 > 0:10:25and search out spiritual truth.
0:10:27 > 0:10:33Fox's searches led him to some startling conclusions.
0:10:33 > 0:10:36God could be found not in churches and in rituals,
0:10:36 > 0:10:39but in the open fields and in the day to day.
0:10:39 > 0:10:42Christians should be guided not by priests,
0:10:42 > 0:10:45but by the light of God within their hearts.
0:10:45 > 0:10:49And since God dwelt in the hearts of all believers,
0:10:49 > 0:10:51so all believers were equal.
0:10:51 > 0:10:53Labourers, servants,
0:10:53 > 0:10:57even women could know and teach the ways of the Lord.
0:11:00 > 0:11:04In his early 20s, Fox started to preach his new ideas.
0:11:04 > 0:11:07He attracted a small group of followers,
0:11:07 > 0:11:10who came to call themselves the Friends of the Truth,
0:11:10 > 0:11:12or simply, the Friends.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18In his biography, Fox described what happened here.
0:11:18 > 0:11:21He said, "As we travelled,
0:11:21 > 0:11:24"we came near a great hill called Pendle,
0:11:24 > 0:11:27"and I was moved by the Lord to climb to the top of it,
0:11:27 > 0:11:31"which I did with great difficulty, it being so very steep and high".
0:11:31 > 0:11:33Yeah, tell me about that!
0:11:34 > 0:11:38"And I could see the sea bordering upon Lancashire.
0:11:38 > 0:11:42"And the Lord showed me in what places he had
0:11:42 > 0:11:44"a great people to be gathered in."
0:11:47 > 0:11:51Fox's radical ideas were not well received by the authorities
0:11:51 > 0:11:54and he was regularly arrested and imprisoned.
0:11:55 > 0:11:58Once, Fox told a prosecuting magistrate that he should
0:11:58 > 0:12:01tremble before the Lord.
0:12:01 > 0:12:04And when the magistrate mocked him for quaking before God,
0:12:04 > 0:12:07the movement got a new name, the Quakers.
0:12:09 > 0:12:12Many thousand were attracted to this vision
0:12:12 > 0:12:14of what it meant to be a Christian.
0:12:14 > 0:12:17And in time, they would build little meeting houses,
0:12:17 > 0:12:20like this one, Farfield, in Yorkshire.
0:12:22 > 0:12:26There's a tranquillity to this place. A calm.
0:12:27 > 0:12:31Quaker worship was fundamentally different.
0:12:31 > 0:12:32There's no altar here.
0:12:32 > 0:12:35There's no pulpit or books or priests.
0:12:38 > 0:12:41Chris, what would worship have been like in a place like this?
0:12:41 > 0:12:44You would have found a group of people
0:12:44 > 0:12:48sitting on these benches for perhaps...
0:12:48 > 0:12:52I don't know, two, three hours on a Sunday.
0:12:52 > 0:12:56Nothing apparently going on, but all waiting.
0:12:56 > 0:13:00And then someone would have stood up in their place,
0:13:00 > 0:13:03um...and given a message.
0:13:03 > 0:13:06A message that they believed had been given them by God.
0:13:06 > 0:13:11And to come into a place where you can just sit,
0:13:11 > 0:13:13no-one is asking any more of you than that,
0:13:13 > 0:13:17um...is...is healing, I think.
0:13:17 > 0:13:20Mm. It's from here to the present day.
0:13:20 > 0:13:22Yeah. That's right.
0:13:26 > 0:13:30You know, we meet the Quakers probably more often than we realise.
0:13:30 > 0:13:33With their reputation for honest dealings,
0:13:33 > 0:13:36they made excellent businesspeople.
0:13:36 > 0:13:40And Lloyds Bank, Barclays Bank, Rowntree's, Terry's,
0:13:40 > 0:13:43Fry's chocolate, Bryant and May matches,
0:13:43 > 0:13:46Clarks shoes, all have Quaker roots.
0:13:46 > 0:13:52But it's their spirituality that today seems more relevant than ever.
0:13:52 > 0:13:55Their bravery, their quietude
0:13:55 > 0:13:57and their unwavering commitment
0:13:57 > 0:14:00to peace and truth and love.
0:16:08 > 0:16:11TRAIN WHISTLE
0:16:11 > 0:16:13Our journey along the Carlisle-Settle railway
0:16:13 > 0:16:17has brought me to Appleby station, where the train takes on water.
0:16:17 > 0:16:21It's an opportunity for me to speak to Steve, our driver.
0:16:21 > 0:16:23- Steve, hello, mate.- Hi.
0:16:23 > 0:16:26So, what is it like driving one of these things?
0:16:26 > 0:16:30Well, it's a real privilege because it's old-school train driving.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32There's no safety systems as such.
0:16:32 > 0:16:35You have control of the whole machine
0:16:35 > 0:16:38and if you don't control it correctly, it'll come back and bite you.
0:16:41 > 0:16:43Our next piece of music carries on our train theme.
0:16:43 > 0:16:47Ruby Turner caught the Birmingham New Street commuters by surprise
0:16:47 > 0:16:51with this gospel classic on BBC Music Day last year.
0:16:51 > 0:16:54# You see the train
0:16:54 > 0:16:57# In the yard
0:16:57 > 0:17:02# It is ready to make a model start
0:17:02 > 0:17:06# Oh, just as soon as
0:17:06 > 0:17:09# The conductor
0:17:09 > 0:17:16# He says, all aboard
0:17:19 > 0:17:23# This train is a clean train You know, this train
0:17:23 > 0:17:28# This train is a clean train You know, this train
0:17:29 > 0:17:34# This train is a clean train Everybody riding in Jesus' name
0:17:34 > 0:17:38# This train is a clean train You know, this train
0:17:40 > 0:17:43# This train has left the station Whoo, this train
0:17:45 > 0:17:48# I said, this train has left the station, whoo, this train
0:17:50 > 0:17:52# I said, this train has left the station
0:17:52 > 0:17:55# This train takes on every nation
0:17:55 > 0:17:58# This train is a clean train You know, this train
0:18:00 > 0:18:04# It's the prettiest train I ever did see, this train
0:18:04 > 0:18:06# Get onboard
0:18:06 > 0:18:09# It's the prettiest train I ever did see, this train
0:18:09 > 0:18:11# Who's getting onboard?
0:18:11 > 0:18:13# It's the prettiest train I ever did see
0:18:13 > 0:18:16# If you want to ride it You better get redeemed
0:18:16 > 0:18:19# This train is a clean train You know, this train
0:18:19 > 0:18:21# Better get onboard
0:18:21 > 0:18:24# This train is bound for glory This train
0:18:24 > 0:18:26# You'd better get onboard
0:18:26 > 0:18:30# This train is bound for glory I said, this train
0:18:30 > 0:18:31# Who's getting onboard?
0:18:31 > 0:18:34# I said, this train is bound for glory
0:18:34 > 0:18:36# Everybody riding her must be holy
0:18:36 > 0:18:40# This train is a clean train You know, this train
0:18:40 > 0:18:41# You'd better get onboard
0:18:41 > 0:18:43# Yeah
0:18:43 > 0:18:44# Get onboard
0:18:44 > 0:18:47# Yeah, yeah, yeah
0:18:47 > 0:18:50# Get onboard
0:18:52 > 0:18:55# Get onboard
0:18:55 > 0:18:57# You'd better get onboard
0:18:57 > 0:19:02# All aboard, all aboard, all aboard
0:19:02 > 0:19:05# This train don't take no jokers This train
0:19:05 > 0:19:07# You'd better get onboard
0:19:07 > 0:19:11# This train don't take no jokers This train
0:19:11 > 0:19:12# Who's getting onboard?
0:19:12 > 0:19:15# I said, this train don't take no jokers
0:19:15 > 0:19:18# No tobacco-chewers or cigar-smokers
0:19:18 > 0:19:21# This train is a clean train You know, this train
0:19:21 > 0:19:23# You'd better get onboard
0:19:23 > 0:19:26# This train is a clean train You know, this train
0:19:26 > 0:19:28# You'd better get onboard
0:19:28 > 0:19:32# This train is a clean train You know, this train
0:19:32 > 0:19:37# You'd better get onboard. #
0:19:37 > 0:19:39APPLAUSE
0:19:39 > 0:19:43Up and down the country, betting shops are a familiar sight.
0:19:43 > 0:19:45And according to the Gambling Commission,
0:19:45 > 0:19:4948% of us had a bet on something last year.
0:19:49 > 0:19:52For most, it's a bit of innocent fun, but as Kate Bottley
0:19:52 > 0:19:56has been finding out, for some, it can lead to tragedy.
0:20:00 > 0:20:05Alan Lockhart was just 40 years old when he took his own life in 2010.
0:20:06 > 0:20:09As a teenager, he'd become hooked on slot machines.
0:20:09 > 0:20:13It started an addiction to gambling that he'd never shake off.
0:20:15 > 0:20:19Alan was a lovely boy. Loved his sports.
0:20:19 > 0:20:23He went everywhere with us, and one of his favourite occupations
0:20:23 > 0:20:27was to go on the slot machines while Mum and Dad had a cup of coffee.
0:20:27 > 0:20:33And it all seemed very, very harmless and...and OK.
0:20:34 > 0:20:36But his childhood fascination with slot machines
0:20:36 > 0:20:39led to an addiction to all forms of gambling.
0:20:39 > 0:20:42Money kept going through his fingers like water.
0:20:42 > 0:20:47And, er...when he became in debt to a very large amount,
0:20:47 > 0:20:50we thought, well, yes, he is in big trouble.
0:20:50 > 0:20:55But you do what any parent does,
0:20:55 > 0:20:57you protect your children at all costs
0:20:57 > 0:20:59and you do all you can for them,
0:20:59 > 0:21:04so we kept helping him out when he needed money.
0:21:06 > 0:21:09Then, all of a sudden, Alan took himself off,
0:21:09 > 0:21:12left home and didn't come back.
0:21:15 > 0:21:20Two years later, I heard that Alan had hung himself in his house.
0:21:22 > 0:21:25It was... I don't know, like being down a dark hole.
0:21:25 > 0:21:28- Those must have been really dark days.- Very dark days, terrible.
0:21:30 > 0:21:33I have a strong faith and that helped me through that.
0:21:33 > 0:21:35How did that help?
0:21:35 > 0:21:38I think praying about your problems helps to off-load
0:21:38 > 0:21:41a little bit of the weight,
0:21:41 > 0:21:44and there was always a reason.
0:21:44 > 0:21:47Maybe this was what it was all about.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53And for Anne, that means spreading the word about the risks of gambling
0:21:53 > 0:21:56to young people and to the gambling industry.
0:21:59 > 0:22:01Graham Weir is head of player protection for high-street
0:22:01 > 0:22:03betting chain, Ladbrokes Coral.
0:22:05 > 0:22:09Alan died in 2010. How have things changed since then?
0:22:09 > 0:22:13The industry has, I guess, awoken to our responsibilities,
0:22:13 > 0:22:15probably in the last five or six years.
0:22:15 > 0:22:20In shop, we have messages for customers that play on machines,
0:22:20 > 0:22:23for example, that tell them how long they've been gambling for,
0:22:23 > 0:22:25how much they've been spending.
0:22:25 > 0:22:27And we've also retrained all of our colleagues
0:22:27 > 0:22:29to spot the signs of problem gambling.
0:22:31 > 0:22:35Some people still say an industry that earns £12 billion per year
0:22:35 > 0:22:38should be doing more to protect their customers.
0:22:38 > 0:22:40What we are looking to do is understand
0:22:40 > 0:22:43probably the next generation of gamblers.
0:22:43 > 0:22:47We just need people to understand that gambling should be fun,
0:22:47 > 0:22:51and when it stops being fun, that's the time to seek help.
0:22:54 > 0:22:57I think gambling can become their life,
0:22:57 > 0:23:00but gambling can also take life.
0:23:00 > 0:23:04And it can become the only thing worth living for.
0:23:04 > 0:23:07And if the means to gamble has gone,
0:23:07 > 0:23:11um...there's not really a very easy way out.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14So, do you think what your doing now to raise awareness of this,
0:23:14 > 0:23:17do you think this is your mission from God,
0:23:17 > 0:23:19- this is what you're supposed to be doing?- Yes.
0:23:19 > 0:23:23All I want to do is to prevent other people going through the same,
0:23:23 > 0:23:27um...hell, because it was hell, as we did.
0:26:50 > 0:26:54The Settle-Carlisle line weaves its way through the Eden Valley,
0:26:54 > 0:26:57which is home to the Knock Christian Centre.
0:26:57 > 0:27:01It's a place where Christian groups can come and enjoy the great outdoors.
0:27:05 > 0:27:08But when it started back in 1979,
0:27:08 > 0:27:11this disused radar station looked very different.
0:27:11 > 0:27:13Was it like this when you got it?
0:27:13 > 0:27:17Oh, no, nothing like this at all. It was just like a prison.
0:27:17 > 0:27:20So, have you been involved in doing all the work here?
0:27:20 > 0:27:25Well, many friends and helpers, and I've done my little bit.
0:27:25 > 0:27:28Tell us about that tower.
0:27:28 > 0:27:31It was such a nuisance, it was ugly and everything.
0:27:31 > 0:27:34We did think about demolishing it and then the idea came up
0:27:34 > 0:27:36that we could use it for a climbing wall.
0:27:40 > 0:27:42Ken was a surgeon in Blackpool when he and his brother
0:27:42 > 0:27:45bought the centre for their church group.
0:27:45 > 0:27:47Here, where all the kitchen stuff is,
0:27:47 > 0:27:48this is where the fuel boilers were.
0:27:48 > 0:27:51Who got rid of it all?
0:27:51 > 0:27:54- Er...friends and myself. - How fantastic!
0:27:54 > 0:27:58- And then you turned it into this kitchen, this huge kitchen.- Yes.
0:27:58 > 0:28:03- Now, listen, that was 1978, yeah? '79?- Yes.
0:28:03 > 0:28:06Um...if you don't mind me asking, how old are you now?
0:28:06 > 0:28:08- 90.- 90?- Yes.
0:28:08 > 0:28:12- And you're still doing all this stuff?- I'm not doing anything.
0:28:12 > 0:28:15- I just walk around and talk these days.- Oh, what an inspiration.
0:28:18 > 0:28:20We play outside and we have fun.
0:28:20 > 0:28:24And it's just a feeling of, like...friendship and stuff.
0:28:24 > 0:28:29I can switch off mentally and relax and I can connect with God so easily
0:28:29 > 0:28:31because that's what this place means to me.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33Ken's a complete star.
0:28:33 > 0:28:35And at 91, still to have the energy and the vision
0:28:35 > 0:28:39and the passion to keep it going, it's just remarkable.
0:28:39 > 0:28:40That is what I've come here to see.
0:28:40 > 0:28:42It's that hill, it's the peacefulness of it all.
0:28:42 > 0:28:43It's just beautiful.
0:28:43 > 0:28:47- And also, there's not such a good mobile phone coverage.- Yeah.
0:28:47 > 0:28:49And there's no Wi-Fi, which is fantastic!
0:28:49 > 0:28:52We go down to the chapel sometimes
0:28:52 > 0:28:56and have, like, a little church in there and things.
0:28:56 > 0:28:59Learn about Christianity.
0:28:59 > 0:29:02Two forward and one to the left.
0:29:02 > 0:29:05My own emphasis is to welcome everyone.
0:29:05 > 0:29:09And we get good reports and have a very happy time.
0:29:09 > 0:29:12Not only in fun and games and things,
0:29:12 > 0:29:14but in learning of the Christian faith.
0:29:14 > 0:29:18And, er...there's many a child or a youngster been transformed,
0:29:18 > 0:29:20as it were, through this centre.
0:29:20 > 0:29:22So that's marvellous, isn't it?
0:31:29 > 0:31:32Well, that's almost it for this week. I hope you've enjoyed it.
0:31:32 > 0:31:36Next week, Aled Jones visits the Chatsworth Estate in Derbyshire,
0:31:36 > 0:31:38where it's all things bright and beautiful
0:31:38 > 0:31:40at their first-ever annual flower show.
0:31:40 > 0:31:45This week, we end on a big hymn from the Salvation Army.