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0:00:02 > 0:00:05Hello. This week, I'm in London at a very important church.

0:00:05 > 0:00:06No, not Westminster Abbey.

0:00:06 > 0:00:11I'm over the road at the impressive Methodist Central Hall, Westminster.

0:00:11 > 0:00:13It has a fascinating history and is a well-known venue

0:00:13 > 0:00:17for big events, but at its heart is a flourishing Methodist church.

0:00:17 > 0:00:19Welcome to Songs Of Praise.

0:00:42 > 0:00:45On today's programme, I learn about the history

0:00:45 > 0:00:48and importance of this incredible building, including the fact

0:00:48 > 0:00:52it played host to the first-ever meeting of the United Nations.

0:00:52 > 0:00:56Julian Lloyd Webber shares memories of his father, who was the

0:00:56 > 0:01:00music director here and responsible for playing the wonderful organ.

0:01:00 > 0:01:03Connie Fisher finds out how, 400 years on,

0:01:03 > 0:01:06the Patron Saint of Charity's vision to serve the poor

0:01:06 > 0:01:10here in one of London's richest boroughs is still going strong.

0:01:10 > 0:01:14I live my faith by helping other people to recognise what

0:01:14 > 0:01:18they can do, to give them love and never, ever to judge them

0:01:18 > 0:01:20or dismiss anybody.

0:01:20 > 0:01:24And we join the Christian performers from the West End who sing together

0:01:24 > 0:01:26to keep their faith strong.

0:01:34 > 0:01:37Methodist Central Hall, Westminster, was opened in 1912

0:01:37 > 0:01:41and this staircase was modelled on the Paris Opera House.

0:01:41 > 0:01:43It's often used as a film set, but primarily it's

0:01:43 > 0:01:47the biggest Methodist Church building in the country,

0:01:47 > 0:01:51where Christians from many nations gather to sing their praise.

0:01:51 > 0:01:54Perhaps one of the most prolific hymn writers of all time

0:01:54 > 0:01:58was Charles Wesley, one of the founders of Methodism.

0:01:58 > 0:02:02He wrote over 6,000 hymns and we start with one of his greats -

0:02:02 > 0:02:04Ye Servants Of God.

0:04:34 > 0:04:36Methodism began in the 18th century

0:04:36 > 0:04:39when the brothers John and Charles Wesley formed the Holy Club,

0:04:39 > 0:04:42which gained the nickname the "Methodists" because of their

0:04:42 > 0:04:47methodical approach to both devotion and living disciplined lives.

0:04:47 > 0:04:52Well, the movement spread and now has 80 million members worldwide.

0:04:53 > 0:04:55Tony Miles is one of the ministers here.

0:04:55 > 0:04:57- Tony, good to meet you. - Welcome, Sean.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00It feels like we're being watched here. Who's this?

0:05:00 > 0:05:03This is John Wesley carrying his Bible.

0:05:03 > 0:05:07He travelled a quarter of a million miles around the country

0:05:07 > 0:05:11- preaching 40,000 sermons.- Wow!

0:05:11 > 0:05:14He's got a massive reputation, but he's a little man, isn't he?

0:05:14 > 0:05:15He is very short.

0:05:15 > 0:05:18In fact, when the Queen came to unveil this statue,

0:05:18 > 0:05:19she unveiled it and she said,

0:05:19 > 0:05:22"It's nice to see someone who's shorter than me."

0:05:22 > 0:05:25He's actually two inches shorter.

0:05:25 > 0:05:28VOICEOVER: But his diminutive stature didn't stand in the way

0:05:28 > 0:05:32of this whole building being built as a memorial to him.

0:05:32 > 0:05:37- Wow! Tony, what a magnificent place! - Impressive, isn't it?- It's vast.

0:05:37 > 0:05:39Our little chapel here at the heart of Westminster.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41I can't imagine what your last chapel was like. This is huge!

0:05:41 > 0:05:45Yes, it was one of 40 Methodist Central Halls that were built

0:05:45 > 0:05:47at the end of the 19th century,

0:05:47 > 0:05:50and it was the Wesleyan Methodists' attempt to reconnect

0:05:50 > 0:05:54with urban areas and particularly our mission alongside the poor,

0:05:54 > 0:05:57to provide a "pew on the pavement", as they called it,

0:05:57 > 0:06:00where people could pop in and feel comfortable in a space

0:06:00 > 0:06:04like this that has very little religious symbolism.

0:06:04 > 0:06:06You can see a cross, but that's about all.

0:06:06 > 0:06:09The Reverend Martyn Atkins is head of the church here.

0:06:09 > 0:06:12- Martyn.- Sean.- Good to meet you. - Good to meet you.

0:06:12 > 0:06:14- Welcome, welcome. - Well, it's an amazing place.

0:06:14 > 0:06:16- You've hosted some amazing events, haven't you?- We have.

0:06:16 > 0:06:18Come and look at this.

0:06:18 > 0:06:20This is the journal of

0:06:20 > 0:06:23the very first meeting of the United Nations General Assembly.

0:06:23 > 0:06:25So, the UN met here?

0:06:25 > 0:06:29The end of the Second World War, January/February 1946 -

0:06:29 > 0:06:3151 nations came to this building

0:06:31 > 0:06:34and the first thing they did was paint it all beige.

0:06:34 > 0:06:37- Beige, so they're not siding with any nation.- Absolutely.

0:06:37 > 0:06:40It's not on any flag, it's neutral and so they come here

0:06:40 > 0:06:42and they were here for weeks.

0:06:42 > 0:06:45- It's also had some pretty special speakers, hasn't it?- Loads of them.

0:06:45 > 0:06:47The Dalai Lama has been here,

0:06:47 > 0:06:49Martin Luther King Jr,

0:06:49 > 0:06:52Mahatma Gandhi stood exactly where you are now

0:06:52 > 0:06:56and loads of politicians - Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher.

0:06:56 > 0:06:59Looking at that list of speakers, it does show that this place is

0:06:59 > 0:07:04- a church at the heart, but it's also a secular space, as well.- It is.

0:07:04 > 0:07:07The Methodist Church wanted to make this a space of invitation.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10How does that fit with the Methodist credentials?

0:07:10 > 0:07:14Well, God loves everyone and God wants the improvement

0:07:14 > 0:07:17of human beings, their life, body, mind and spirit

0:07:17 > 0:07:20and if it contributes to that, here's your space.

0:07:20 > 0:07:24- Now, I've got one more place that I want to show you.- I'm excited.

0:07:24 > 0:07:27- Are you ready for this? - I'm a bit worried now!

0:07:27 > 0:07:29- See you, Martyn.- Take care. - God bless.

0:07:31 > 0:07:35We've climbed up to a balcony you'd never know was here.

0:07:35 > 0:07:37Tony, that is a tremendous view.

0:07:37 > 0:07:39Well, I have to say, I'm totally biased,

0:07:39 > 0:07:43but this has got to be one of the best views over Westminster.

0:07:43 > 0:07:46This is high enough for me, but it goes up even more, doesn't it?

0:07:46 > 0:07:51It does. Up on the top there is a golden depiction of the world

0:07:51 > 0:07:55with the Holy Spirit falling upon it and when I'm here,

0:07:55 > 0:07:58I also think of the Holy Spirit falling on the Disciples,

0:07:58 > 0:08:01I think of the Wesley brothers, and it reminds me

0:08:01 > 0:08:03of our next hymn that we're going to sing,

0:08:03 > 0:08:06O Thou Who Camest From Above, for whenever I sing that hymn,

0:08:06 > 0:08:10I pray that we may be changed by the Holy Spirit,

0:08:10 > 0:08:14by the power of the Spirit so that we can love and serve together.

0:11:07 > 0:11:10Methodist Central Hall, Westminster may sit next door

0:11:10 > 0:11:12to the Houses of Parliament and have, within its shadow,

0:11:12 > 0:11:16some of the most expensive property in the world,

0:11:16 > 0:11:18but there's also poverty here.

0:11:18 > 0:11:21In the basement of the church is a Catholic charity called

0:11:21 > 0:11:23the St Vincent's Family Project

0:11:23 > 0:11:26that reaches out to parents with young children.

0:11:26 > 0:11:30Connie Fisher has been finding out about the work they do.

0:11:32 > 0:11:35Everyone here has a different story to tell.

0:11:35 > 0:11:38They come from a huge variety of countries and cultures,

0:11:38 > 0:11:40but whatever their background, when they walk in here,

0:11:40 > 0:11:43they're guaranteed a very warm welcome.

0:11:45 > 0:11:46- ALL:- # Hello, Connie

0:11:46 > 0:11:48# Hello, Connie... #

0:11:48 > 0:11:51- VOICEOVER:- As well as being a playgroup, the charity offers

0:11:51 > 0:11:52help and support to parents

0:11:52 > 0:11:56and Seka leads the team of helpers and volunteers here.

0:11:58 > 0:12:00I remember, when I got children,

0:12:00 > 0:12:04you can just panic, be anxious and really lose sleep

0:12:04 > 0:12:07and lose your health over it. So when you have a place like this,

0:12:07 > 0:12:10you say, "OK, I'll just pop to St Vincent's."

0:12:10 > 0:12:14And when you open the door of a place and everybody knows your name

0:12:14 > 0:12:18and everybody welcomes you, you say, "OK, I belong in there."

0:12:18 > 0:12:22Other playgroups that we normally go to, you go there,

0:12:22 > 0:12:25you play and then you go, you leave and that's it.

0:12:25 > 0:12:28But here, we can build up a relationship with them.

0:12:28 > 0:12:32They're like a friend to us, like family, basically.

0:12:32 > 0:12:34We can see that poverty is rising.

0:12:34 > 0:12:39You have pockets of deprivation on three big estates in here.

0:12:39 > 0:12:43Actually, one of the estates that is just down the road in Pimlico,

0:12:43 > 0:12:44Churchill Gardens Estate,

0:12:44 > 0:12:48is one of the most deprived estates in the country, in the UK.

0:12:49 > 0:12:51The charity may be dealing with 21st-century problems,

0:12:51 > 0:12:56but its origins lie 400 years ago with St Vincent.

0:12:57 > 0:13:00Well, St Vincent was a 17th century priest

0:13:00 > 0:13:03who was responding to the needs within his area.

0:13:03 > 0:13:05He basically was an organiser.

0:13:05 > 0:13:08He's actually the Patron Saint of Charity

0:13:08 > 0:13:12and so St Vincent is now the inspiration for our work

0:13:12 > 0:13:15of charity and responding to people's needs.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18As well as the family drop-in, they run several classes,

0:13:18 > 0:13:20including the popular parenting advice sessions.

0:13:22 > 0:13:26And for praise to work, it needs to be short, descriptive.

0:13:27 > 0:13:31So, she tidied all the toys up. How are you going to praise her?

0:13:31 > 0:13:34Thank you very much for tidying the toy and putting in the box.

0:13:34 > 0:13:36Well done, keep it up.

0:13:36 > 0:13:39Well done, that's a really good example.

0:13:39 > 0:13:40This is a Christian charity.

0:13:40 > 0:13:43We don't hide the fact that we're a Christian charity

0:13:43 > 0:13:47and it isn't up to us to decide what someone's faith journey is.

0:13:47 > 0:13:50We leave that up to God, really, in the end.

0:13:50 > 0:13:53And if some way, at the end of this road,

0:13:53 > 0:13:57that people think that they have seen the Lord work in here,

0:13:57 > 0:14:00well, then we'll leave that up to them.

0:14:00 > 0:14:05I live my faith by helping other people, to see good in them,

0:14:05 > 0:14:07to recognise what they can do,

0:14:07 > 0:14:11to give them love and to give them acceptance and never, ever

0:14:11 > 0:14:13to judge them or dismiss anybody.

0:14:14 > 0:14:16I'm a single mum.

0:14:16 > 0:14:18I've got three children, born in Sierra Leone.

0:14:18 > 0:14:21Back home in my country, there used to be a war there,

0:14:21 > 0:14:23they have a war.

0:14:23 > 0:14:24So, God saved me.

0:14:26 > 0:14:28I didn't die through the war

0:14:28 > 0:14:32and I find myself here so God did a lot for me.

0:14:32 > 0:14:35It was just very nice, you know, to come

0:14:35 > 0:14:39and meet other mums, share things, ideas.

0:14:39 > 0:14:41- VOICEOVER:- We're a Catholic charity,

0:14:41 > 0:14:44but we're also housed within a Methodist church

0:14:44 > 0:14:48and, actually, the Methodist minister said to me

0:14:48 > 0:14:51that God is already here, God is already working

0:14:51 > 0:14:53and we just have to show up so we're just waiting

0:14:53 > 0:14:55for the people to show up and then we serve.

0:16:38 > 0:16:42The centrepiece here at Methodist Central Hall

0:16:42 > 0:16:46is the glorious organ with 4,000 pipes.

0:16:46 > 0:16:49This piece is by the composer Dr William Lloyd Webber.

0:16:49 > 0:16:52He was the music director here for 24 years

0:16:52 > 0:16:57and is the late father of famous sons Andrew and Julian Lloyd Webber.

0:16:57 > 0:16:59Well, listening to that, Julian,

0:16:59 > 0:17:01must bring back memories of your childhood.

0:17:01 > 0:17:05It really does because I was about nine when my father got the job here

0:17:05 > 0:17:08as the music director and also the organist

0:17:08 > 0:17:11so every Sunday morning, I used to come with my mother

0:17:11 > 0:17:12and we used to go to the services,

0:17:12 > 0:17:17occasionally evening services, too, and they were extraordinary times.

0:17:17 > 0:17:20What do you remember as a child about the sermons here, then?

0:17:20 > 0:17:22They were actually not too long.

0:17:22 > 0:17:25I remember that, they were very sort of audience-friendly

0:17:25 > 0:17:28and I learned a lot from them, even at that age.

0:17:28 > 0:17:31Now, your father wrote lots of music, but he didn't really

0:17:31 > 0:17:35get the recognition he deserved till after his death. Why was that?

0:17:35 > 0:17:39It was his own fault, basically, because he hid all his music away.

0:17:39 > 0:17:43His music is very, very romantic, but he basically hid it away

0:17:43 > 0:17:47because he thought it was too romantic to get any

0:17:47 > 0:17:50kind of approval from the critics at the time. I mean, he was right.

0:17:50 > 0:17:54It was music that was completely out of step with the time

0:17:54 > 0:17:57it was written and it was only after he died

0:17:57 > 0:18:00that I was able to find out just how much he'd written.

0:18:00 > 0:18:01So, he did that to avoid the critics.

0:18:01 > 0:18:04He didn't want people to criticise him.

0:18:04 > 0:18:07I think he went on writing a lot of church music

0:18:07 > 0:18:10because he had to write music. He was a very instinctive musician

0:18:10 > 0:18:13and church music didn't get reviewed.

0:18:13 > 0:18:16He obviously had a big influence on you and your brother Andrew

0:18:16 > 0:18:18cos you both went into music

0:18:18 > 0:18:20and you've had both really successful careers.

0:18:20 > 0:18:23Yes, he was a slightly remote figure, though, in a way.

0:18:23 > 0:18:25He went on and he did all the things he did.

0:18:25 > 0:18:28He was director of the London College of Music,

0:18:28 > 0:18:31taught at the Royal College, was director here.

0:18:31 > 0:18:33We knew he was a really brilliant musician,

0:18:33 > 0:18:36but he didn't push or interfere.

0:18:36 > 0:18:38We could choose whatever we liked

0:18:38 > 0:18:41and there was all kinds of music that we heard all the time -

0:18:41 > 0:18:44musicals, rock and roll, Beethoven, Prokofiev, the lot -

0:18:44 > 0:18:46and I think that's probably why Andrew and me

0:18:46 > 0:18:48went in different ways.

0:18:48 > 0:18:52We weren't particularly pressurised to go in any way or do music at all.

0:18:52 > 0:18:54Now, our next hymn is Love Divine

0:18:54 > 0:18:57- and that's a hymn your dad really liked.- Yes, he really did.

0:18:57 > 0:18:59I remember hearing it here.

0:18:59 > 0:19:01He even did a version himself,

0:19:01 > 0:19:04but this is the Blaenwern tune that we hear today.

0:21:17 > 0:21:21A variety of music has always been heard here at Methodist Central Hall

0:21:21 > 0:21:24and, today, the service includes Jazz Vespers,

0:21:24 > 0:21:27a group run by saxophonist Dan Forshaw.

0:24:26 > 0:24:29Within walking distance of Methodist Central Hall

0:24:29 > 0:24:30lies London's famous West End,

0:24:30 > 0:24:33where Connie Fisher has been meeting

0:24:33 > 0:24:35some Christian musical theatre stars.

0:24:35 > 0:24:37Ah, this takes me back!

0:24:37 > 0:24:39I remember my Maria days in The Sound Of Music

0:24:39 > 0:24:43here at the London Palladium, but behind the glitz and glamour,

0:24:43 > 0:24:46the world of show business can be very insecure

0:24:46 > 0:24:48with emotional highs and lows,

0:24:48 > 0:24:51and holding on to your faith can be really tough.

0:24:55 > 0:24:58Anna McGarahan is currently in Les Miserables.

0:24:58 > 0:25:01She's one of the many actors on the West End stage who,

0:25:01 > 0:25:03night after night, deliver great performances.

0:25:05 > 0:25:07I grew up in a Christian household.

0:25:07 > 0:25:10My dad's a vicar, but it was when I moved to London

0:25:10 > 0:25:13when I was about 15 and got into a church

0:25:13 > 0:25:15where there was lots of young people,

0:25:15 > 0:25:18that's when my faith kind of flourished, I guess.

0:25:20 > 0:25:23Anna's friend Hannah is in Phantom Of The Opera.

0:25:23 > 0:25:25They're both Christians, but may never have met

0:25:25 > 0:25:29if it hadn't been for a group called West End Has Faith.

0:25:29 > 0:25:32And what's the purpose of the group? Why do you get together?

0:25:32 > 0:25:34In a sense, it feels quite lonely when you're a Christian

0:25:34 > 0:25:36in this business and, for me, especially, I thought

0:25:36 > 0:25:39I was the only one for quite a while

0:25:39 > 0:25:41and the purpose of this is to bring us together

0:25:41 > 0:25:44so that we can support, that we can build up,

0:25:44 > 0:25:47that we can learn together, we can pray together

0:25:47 > 0:25:49or if something is happening at work,

0:25:49 > 0:25:52you can actually understand where you're coming from

0:25:52 > 0:25:54from your Christian perspectives, as well.

0:25:54 > 0:25:57Yeah, because I think lots of us have Christian friends,

0:25:57 > 0:25:59but they don't necessarily know the rollercoaster of emotions

0:25:59 > 0:26:02that you go on as an actress or any kind of creative

0:26:02 > 0:26:04because like you said, it's that uncertainty

0:26:04 > 0:26:07and if you've gone for six or seven auditions

0:26:07 > 0:26:09and you're in the final round

0:26:09 > 0:26:13and then it's a no, it's how to deal with that rejection and...

0:26:13 > 0:26:15After a month of trying!

0:26:15 > 0:26:17Yeah, yeah!

0:26:17 > 0:26:19Or you go from being a lead in one show and then you finish

0:26:19 > 0:26:20and you have three months out of work

0:26:20 > 0:26:22and you can't even get an audition.

0:26:22 > 0:26:27# Holy Word... #

0:26:27 > 0:26:30Today, the group are rehearsing for a charity concert they're holding.

0:26:30 > 0:26:34# ..Mighty Jesus... #

0:26:34 > 0:26:36OK, guys, keep singing, keep singing!

0:26:36 > 0:26:39I'm going to join in.

0:26:39 > 0:26:45# ..Lord of everything... #

0:26:45 > 0:26:47How ruthless is this business?

0:26:47 > 0:26:49Some people think it's glitz and glamour,

0:26:49 > 0:26:52but you've needed your faith at times, right?

0:26:52 > 0:26:54You can't take it personally.

0:26:54 > 0:26:57There have been times where I haven't got jobs

0:26:57 > 0:27:01because my eyebrows aren't right or my eyebrows are too dark

0:27:01 > 0:27:04or I'm too fat, too thin, too tall, too short.

0:27:04 > 0:27:07Like I can't be in 42nd Street because my legs aren't long enough.

0:27:07 > 0:27:09- Really?- So, I'm always too short!

0:27:09 > 0:27:15# ..Here I stand... #

0:27:15 > 0:27:19It says somewhere in the Psalms that we're God's masterpiece

0:27:19 > 0:27:22and I think that's really important to know that,

0:27:22 > 0:27:26regardless of all this rejection, ultimately,

0:27:26 > 0:27:30we are loved and cherished and we can't take that rejection personally

0:27:30 > 0:27:33and I think faith is really important in that

0:27:33 > 0:27:37because if you are grounded in who God says you are,

0:27:37 > 0:27:40not about what other people think of you,

0:27:40 > 0:27:43it makes the rejection easier to deal with.

0:27:43 > 0:27:50# ..To glorify your name! #

0:27:50 > 0:27:54It's great to see how faith can pull actors together

0:27:54 > 0:27:57and some of the members of the group are also part

0:27:57 > 0:28:01of the West End Gospel Choir and here they are to perform for us now.

0:28:02 > 0:28:04# Wait a minute

0:28:04 > 0:28:06# Bring it back

0:28:06 > 0:28:07# Wait a minute

0:28:08 > 0:28:11# When Jesus say yes

0:28:11 > 0:28:13# Nobody can say no

0:28:13 > 0:28:15# When Jesus say yes

0:28:15 > 0:28:17# Nobody can say no

0:28:18 > 0:28:22# I'm not worried about a thing

0:28:22 > 0:28:26# Cos I know you are guiding me

0:28:26 > 0:28:27# Where you lead me

0:28:27 > 0:28:30# Lord, I will go

0:28:30 > 0:28:31# I have no fear

0:28:31 > 0:28:34# Cos I know who's in control

0:28:34 > 0:28:36# There's no limit to what you can do

0:28:36 > 0:28:39# Cos it all belongs to you

0:28:39 > 0:28:42# Yes, it all belongs to you

0:28:42 > 0:28:45# You're almighty and all powerful

0:28:45 > 0:28:47# And it all belongs to you

0:28:47 > 0:28:48# Yes, it all belongs to you

0:28:48 > 0:28:50# When Jesus say yes

0:28:50 > 0:28:52# Nobody can say no

0:28:52 > 0:28:54# When Jesus say yes

0:28:54 > 0:28:56# Nobody can say no

0:28:56 > 0:28:59# When Jesus say yes

0:28:59 > 0:29:01# Nobody can say no

0:29:01 > 0:29:02# When Jesus say yes

0:29:02 > 0:29:05# Nobody can say no

0:29:05 > 0:29:07# When Jesus say yes

0:29:07 > 0:29:08# Nobody can say no

0:29:08 > 0:29:10# When Jesus say yes

0:29:10 > 0:29:12# Nobody can say no

0:29:12 > 0:29:14# When Jesus say yes

0:29:14 > 0:29:16# Can't say no

0:29:16 > 0:29:19# When Jesus say yes

0:29:19 > 0:29:21# Nobody can say no

0:29:21 > 0:29:26# I'm not worried about a thing

0:29:26 > 0:29:30# Cos I know you are guiding me

0:29:30 > 0:29:31# Where you lead me

0:29:31 > 0:29:34# Lord, I will go

0:29:34 > 0:29:35# I have no fear

0:29:35 > 0:29:38# Cos I know who's in control

0:29:38 > 0:29:41# There's no limit to what you can do

0:29:41 > 0:29:43# Cos it all belongs to you

0:29:43 > 0:29:46# Yes, it all belongs to you

0:29:46 > 0:29:48# You're almighty and all powerful

0:29:48 > 0:29:51# And it all belongs to you

0:29:51 > 0:29:54- # Yes, it all belongs to you - Sing it again

0:29:54 > 0:29:57# There's no limit to what you can do

0:29:57 > 0:29:59# Cos it all belongs to you

0:29:59 > 0:30:01# Yes, it all belongs to you

0:30:01 > 0:30:05# You're almighty and all powerful

0:30:05 > 0:30:07# And it all belongs to you

0:30:07 > 0:30:09# Yes, it all belongs to you

0:30:10 > 0:30:12# Wait a minute

0:30:12 > 0:30:13# Bring it back

0:30:15 > 0:30:16# Wait a minute

0:30:16 > 0:30:18# Bring it back

0:30:19 > 0:30:20# Wait a minute

0:30:20 > 0:30:22# Bring it back

0:30:22 > 0:30:23# Whoo

0:30:23 > 0:30:24# Wait a minute

0:30:24 > 0:30:27# When Jesus say yes

0:30:27 > 0:30:29# Nobody can say no

0:30:29 > 0:30:30# When Jesus say yes

0:30:30 > 0:30:32# Nobody can say no

0:30:32 > 0:30:34# When Jesus say yes

0:30:34 > 0:30:37# Nobody can say no

0:30:37 > 0:30:38# When Jesus say yes

0:30:38 > 0:30:40# Nobody can say no. #

0:30:44 > 0:30:47Well, that's just about it from Methodist Central Hall, Westminster.

0:30:47 > 0:30:50Next week, we have a very special programme for you.

0:30:51 > 0:30:55It's Homeless Sunday and I join volunteers from my church

0:30:55 > 0:30:58on their regular early morning tea run in Central London

0:30:58 > 0:31:01and the Reverend Kate Bottley meets a remarkable teenager

0:31:01 > 0:31:06offering a little bag of hope to the homeless in Preston.

0:31:06 > 0:31:08From the early days of the Methodist movement,

0:31:08 > 0:31:11John and Charles Wesley knew the importance of singing

0:31:11 > 0:31:15as a means of learning, celebrating and sharing faith

0:31:15 > 0:31:18and our final hymn does all of that.

0:31:18 > 0:31:22It's a favourite of the congregation here - Father Of Everlasting Grace.