0:00:02 > 0:00:05Hello. This week, I'm in London at a very important church.
0:00:05 > 0:00:06No, not Westminster Abbey.
0:00:06 > 0:00:11I'm over the road at the impressive Methodist Central Hall, Westminster.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13It has a fascinating history and is a well-known venue
0:00:13 > 0:00:17for big events, but at its heart is a flourishing Methodist church.
0:00:17 > 0:00:19Welcome to Songs Of Praise.
0:00:42 > 0:00:45On today's programme, I learn about the history
0:00:45 > 0:00:48and importance of this incredible building, including the fact
0:00:48 > 0:00:52it played host to the first-ever meeting of the United Nations.
0:00:52 > 0:00:56Julian Lloyd Webber shares memories of his father, who was the
0:00:56 > 0:01:00music director here and responsible for playing the wonderful organ.
0:01:00 > 0:01:03Connie Fisher finds out how, 400 years on,
0:01:03 > 0:01:06the Patron Saint of Charity's vision to serve the poor
0:01:06 > 0:01:10here in one of London's richest boroughs is still going strong.
0:01:10 > 0:01:14I live my faith by helping other people to recognise what
0:01:14 > 0:01:18they can do, to give them love and never, ever to judge them
0:01:18 > 0:01:20or dismiss anybody.
0:01:20 > 0:01:24And we join the Christian performers from the West End who sing together
0:01:24 > 0:01:26to keep their faith strong.
0:01:34 > 0:01:37Methodist Central Hall, Westminster, was opened in 1912
0:01:37 > 0:01:41and this staircase was modelled on the Paris Opera House.
0:01:41 > 0:01:43It's often used as a film set, but primarily it's
0:01:43 > 0:01:47the biggest Methodist Church building in the country,
0:01:47 > 0:01:51where Christians from many nations gather to sing their praise.
0:01:51 > 0:01:54Perhaps one of the most prolific hymn writers of all time
0:01:54 > 0:01:58was Charles Wesley, one of the founders of Methodism.
0:01:58 > 0:02:02He wrote over 6,000 hymns and we start with one of his greats -
0:02:02 > 0:02:04Ye Servants Of God.
0:04:34 > 0:04:36Methodism began in the 18th century
0:04:36 > 0:04:39when the brothers John and Charles Wesley formed the Holy Club,
0:04:39 > 0:04:42which gained the nickname the "Methodists" because of their
0:04:42 > 0:04:47methodical approach to both devotion and living disciplined lives.
0:04:47 > 0:04:52Well, the movement spread and now has 80 million members worldwide.
0:04:53 > 0:04:55Tony Miles is one of the ministers here.
0:04:55 > 0:04:57- Tony, good to meet you. - Welcome, Sean.
0:04:57 > 0:05:00It feels like we're being watched here. Who's this?
0:05:00 > 0:05:03This is John Wesley carrying his Bible.
0:05:03 > 0:05:07He travelled a quarter of a million miles around the country
0:05:07 > 0:05:11- preaching 40,000 sermons.- Wow!
0:05:11 > 0:05:14He's got a massive reputation, but he's a little man, isn't he?
0:05:14 > 0:05:15He is very short.
0:05:15 > 0:05:18In fact, when the Queen came to unveil this statue,
0:05:18 > 0:05:19she unveiled it and she said,
0:05:19 > 0:05:22"It's nice to see someone who's shorter than me."
0:05:22 > 0:05:25He's actually two inches shorter.
0:05:25 > 0:05:28VOICEOVER: But his diminutive stature didn't stand in the way
0:05:28 > 0:05:32of this whole building being built as a memorial to him.
0:05:32 > 0:05:37- Wow! Tony, what a magnificent place! - Impressive, isn't it?- It's vast.
0:05:37 > 0:05:39Our little chapel here at the heart of Westminster.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41I can't imagine what your last chapel was like. This is huge!
0:05:41 > 0:05:45Yes, it was one of 40 Methodist Central Halls that were built
0:05:45 > 0:05:47at the end of the 19th century,
0:05:47 > 0:05:50and it was the Wesleyan Methodists' attempt to reconnect
0:05:50 > 0:05:54with urban areas and particularly our mission alongside the poor,
0:05:54 > 0:05:57to provide a "pew on the pavement", as they called it,
0:05:57 > 0:06:00where people could pop in and feel comfortable in a space
0:06:00 > 0:06:04like this that has very little religious symbolism.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06You can see a cross, but that's about all.
0:06:06 > 0:06:09The Reverend Martyn Atkins is head of the church here.
0:06:09 > 0:06:12- Martyn.- Sean.- Good to meet you. - Good to meet you.
0:06:12 > 0:06:14- Welcome, welcome. - Well, it's an amazing place.
0:06:14 > 0:06:16- You've hosted some amazing events, haven't you?- We have.
0:06:16 > 0:06:18Come and look at this.
0:06:18 > 0:06:20This is the journal of
0:06:20 > 0:06:23the very first meeting of the United Nations General Assembly.
0:06:23 > 0:06:25So, the UN met here?
0:06:25 > 0:06:29The end of the Second World War, January/February 1946 -
0:06:29 > 0:06:3151 nations came to this building
0:06:31 > 0:06:34and the first thing they did was paint it all beige.
0:06:34 > 0:06:37- Beige, so they're not siding with any nation.- Absolutely.
0:06:37 > 0:06:40It's not on any flag, it's neutral and so they come here
0:06:40 > 0:06:42and they were here for weeks.
0:06:42 > 0:06:45- It's also had some pretty special speakers, hasn't it?- Loads of them.
0:06:45 > 0:06:47The Dalai Lama has been here,
0:06:47 > 0:06:49Martin Luther King Jr,
0:06:49 > 0:06:52Mahatma Gandhi stood exactly where you are now
0:06:52 > 0:06:56and loads of politicians - Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher.
0:06:56 > 0:06:59Looking at that list of speakers, it does show that this place is
0:06:59 > 0:07:04- a church at the heart, but it's also a secular space, as well.- It is.
0:07:04 > 0:07:07The Methodist Church wanted to make this a space of invitation.
0:07:07 > 0:07:10How does that fit with the Methodist credentials?
0:07:10 > 0:07:14Well, God loves everyone and God wants the improvement
0:07:14 > 0:07:17of human beings, their life, body, mind and spirit
0:07:17 > 0:07:20and if it contributes to that, here's your space.
0:07:20 > 0:07:24- Now, I've got one more place that I want to show you.- I'm excited.
0:07:24 > 0:07:27- Are you ready for this? - I'm a bit worried now!
0:07:27 > 0:07:29- See you, Martyn.- Take care. - God bless.
0:07:31 > 0:07:35We've climbed up to a balcony you'd never know was here.
0:07:35 > 0:07:37Tony, that is a tremendous view.
0:07:37 > 0:07:39Well, I have to say, I'm totally biased,
0:07:39 > 0:07:43but this has got to be one of the best views over Westminster.
0:07:43 > 0:07:46This is high enough for me, but it goes up even more, doesn't it?
0:07:46 > 0:07:51It does. Up on the top there is a golden depiction of the world
0:07:51 > 0:07:55with the Holy Spirit falling upon it and when I'm here,
0:07:55 > 0:07:58I also think of the Holy Spirit falling on the Disciples,
0:07:58 > 0:08:01I think of the Wesley brothers, and it reminds me
0:08:01 > 0:08:03of our next hymn that we're going to sing,
0:08:03 > 0:08:06O Thou Who Camest From Above, for whenever I sing that hymn,
0:08:06 > 0:08:10I pray that we may be changed by the Holy Spirit,
0:08:10 > 0:08:14by the power of the Spirit so that we can love and serve together.
0:11:07 > 0:11:10Methodist Central Hall, Westminster may sit next door
0:11:10 > 0:11:12to the Houses of Parliament and have, within its shadow,
0:11:12 > 0:11:16some of the most expensive property in the world,
0:11:16 > 0:11:18but there's also poverty here.
0:11:18 > 0:11:21In the basement of the church is a Catholic charity called
0:11:21 > 0:11:23the St Vincent's Family Project
0:11:23 > 0:11:26that reaches out to parents with young children.
0:11:26 > 0:11:30Connie Fisher has been finding out about the work they do.
0:11:32 > 0:11:35Everyone here has a different story to tell.
0:11:35 > 0:11:38They come from a huge variety of countries and cultures,
0:11:38 > 0:11:40but whatever their background, when they walk in here,
0:11:40 > 0:11:43they're guaranteed a very warm welcome.
0:11:45 > 0:11:46- ALL:- # Hello, Connie
0:11:46 > 0:11:48# Hello, Connie... #
0:11:48 > 0:11:51- VOICEOVER:- As well as being a playgroup, the charity offers
0:11:51 > 0:11:52help and support to parents
0:11:52 > 0:11:56and Seka leads the team of helpers and volunteers here.
0:11:58 > 0:12:00I remember, when I got children,
0:12:00 > 0:12:04you can just panic, be anxious and really lose sleep
0:12:04 > 0:12:07and lose your health over it. So when you have a place like this,
0:12:07 > 0:12:10you say, "OK, I'll just pop to St Vincent's."
0:12:10 > 0:12:14And when you open the door of a place and everybody knows your name
0:12:14 > 0:12:18and everybody welcomes you, you say, "OK, I belong in there."
0:12:18 > 0:12:22Other playgroups that we normally go to, you go there,
0:12:22 > 0:12:25you play and then you go, you leave and that's it.
0:12:25 > 0:12:28But here, we can build up a relationship with them.
0:12:28 > 0:12:32They're like a friend to us, like family, basically.
0:12:32 > 0:12:34We can see that poverty is rising.
0:12:34 > 0:12:39You have pockets of deprivation on three big estates in here.
0:12:39 > 0:12:43Actually, one of the estates that is just down the road in Pimlico,
0:12:43 > 0:12:44Churchill Gardens Estate,
0:12:44 > 0:12:48is one of the most deprived estates in the country, in the UK.
0:12:49 > 0:12:51The charity may be dealing with 21st-century problems,
0:12:51 > 0:12:56but its origins lie 400 years ago with St Vincent.
0:12:57 > 0:13:00Well, St Vincent was a 17th century priest
0:13:00 > 0:13:03who was responding to the needs within his area.
0:13:03 > 0:13:05He basically was an organiser.
0:13:05 > 0:13:08He's actually the Patron Saint of Charity
0:13:08 > 0:13:12and so St Vincent is now the inspiration for our work
0:13:12 > 0:13:15of charity and responding to people's needs.
0:13:15 > 0:13:18As well as the family drop-in, they run several classes,
0:13:18 > 0:13:20including the popular parenting advice sessions.
0:13:22 > 0:13:26And for praise to work, it needs to be short, descriptive.
0:13:27 > 0:13:31So, she tidied all the toys up. How are you going to praise her?
0:13:31 > 0:13:34Thank you very much for tidying the toy and putting in the box.
0:13:34 > 0:13:36Well done, keep it up.
0:13:36 > 0:13:39Well done, that's a really good example.
0:13:39 > 0:13:40This is a Christian charity.
0:13:40 > 0:13:43We don't hide the fact that we're a Christian charity
0:13:43 > 0:13:47and it isn't up to us to decide what someone's faith journey is.
0:13:47 > 0:13:50We leave that up to God, really, in the end.
0:13:50 > 0:13:53And if some way, at the end of this road,
0:13:53 > 0:13:57that people think that they have seen the Lord work in here,
0:13:57 > 0:14:00well, then we'll leave that up to them.
0:14:00 > 0:14:05I live my faith by helping other people, to see good in them,
0:14:05 > 0:14:07to recognise what they can do,
0:14:07 > 0:14:11to give them love and to give them acceptance and never, ever
0:14:11 > 0:14:13to judge them or dismiss anybody.
0:14:14 > 0:14:16I'm a single mum.
0:14:16 > 0:14:18I've got three children, born in Sierra Leone.
0:14:18 > 0:14:21Back home in my country, there used to be a war there,
0:14:21 > 0:14:23they have a war.
0:14:23 > 0:14:24So, God saved me.
0:14:26 > 0:14:28I didn't die through the war
0:14:28 > 0:14:32and I find myself here so God did a lot for me.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35It was just very nice, you know, to come
0:14:35 > 0:14:39and meet other mums, share things, ideas.
0:14:39 > 0:14:41- VOICEOVER:- We're a Catholic charity,
0:14:41 > 0:14:44but we're also housed within a Methodist church
0:14:44 > 0:14:48and, actually, the Methodist minister said to me
0:14:48 > 0:14:51that God is already here, God is already working
0:14:51 > 0:14:53and we just have to show up so we're just waiting
0:14:53 > 0:14:55for the people to show up and then we serve.
0:16:38 > 0:16:42The centrepiece here at Methodist Central Hall
0:16:42 > 0:16:46is the glorious organ with 4,000 pipes.
0:16:46 > 0:16:49This piece is by the composer Dr William Lloyd Webber.
0:16:49 > 0:16:52He was the music director here for 24 years
0:16:52 > 0:16:57and is the late father of famous sons Andrew and Julian Lloyd Webber.
0:16:57 > 0:16:59Well, listening to that, Julian,
0:16:59 > 0:17:01must bring back memories of your childhood.
0:17:01 > 0:17:05It really does because I was about nine when my father got the job here
0:17:05 > 0:17:08as the music director and also the organist
0:17:08 > 0:17:11so every Sunday morning, I used to come with my mother
0:17:11 > 0:17:12and we used to go to the services,
0:17:12 > 0:17:17occasionally evening services, too, and they were extraordinary times.
0:17:17 > 0:17:20What do you remember as a child about the sermons here, then?
0:17:20 > 0:17:22They were actually not too long.
0:17:22 > 0:17:25I remember that, they were very sort of audience-friendly
0:17:25 > 0:17:28and I learned a lot from them, even at that age.
0:17:28 > 0:17:31Now, your father wrote lots of music, but he didn't really
0:17:31 > 0:17:35get the recognition he deserved till after his death. Why was that?
0:17:35 > 0:17:39It was his own fault, basically, because he hid all his music away.
0:17:39 > 0:17:43His music is very, very romantic, but he basically hid it away
0:17:43 > 0:17:47because he thought it was too romantic to get any
0:17:47 > 0:17:50kind of approval from the critics at the time. I mean, he was right.
0:17:50 > 0:17:54It was music that was completely out of step with the time
0:17:54 > 0:17:57it was written and it was only after he died
0:17:57 > 0:18:00that I was able to find out just how much he'd written.
0:18:00 > 0:18:01So, he did that to avoid the critics.
0:18:01 > 0:18:04He didn't want people to criticise him.
0:18:04 > 0:18:07I think he went on writing a lot of church music
0:18:07 > 0:18:10because he had to write music. He was a very instinctive musician
0:18:10 > 0:18:13and church music didn't get reviewed.
0:18:13 > 0:18:16He obviously had a big influence on you and your brother Andrew
0:18:16 > 0:18:18cos you both went into music
0:18:18 > 0:18:20and you've had both really successful careers.
0:18:20 > 0:18:23Yes, he was a slightly remote figure, though, in a way.
0:18:23 > 0:18:25He went on and he did all the things he did.
0:18:25 > 0:18:28He was director of the London College of Music,
0:18:28 > 0:18:31taught at the Royal College, was director here.
0:18:31 > 0:18:33We knew he was a really brilliant musician,
0:18:33 > 0:18:36but he didn't push or interfere.
0:18:36 > 0:18:38We could choose whatever we liked
0:18:38 > 0:18:41and there was all kinds of music that we heard all the time -
0:18:41 > 0:18:44musicals, rock and roll, Beethoven, Prokofiev, the lot -
0:18:44 > 0:18:46and I think that's probably why Andrew and me
0:18:46 > 0:18:48went in different ways.
0:18:48 > 0:18:52We weren't particularly pressurised to go in any way or do music at all.
0:18:52 > 0:18:54Now, our next hymn is Love Divine
0:18:54 > 0:18:57- and that's a hymn your dad really liked.- Yes, he really did.
0:18:57 > 0:18:59I remember hearing it here.
0:18:59 > 0:19:01He even did a version himself,
0:19:01 > 0:19:04but this is the Blaenwern tune that we hear today.
0:21:17 > 0:21:21A variety of music has always been heard here at Methodist Central Hall
0:21:21 > 0:21:24and, today, the service includes Jazz Vespers,
0:21:24 > 0:21:27a group run by saxophonist Dan Forshaw.
0:24:26 > 0:24:29Within walking distance of Methodist Central Hall
0:24:29 > 0:24:30lies London's famous West End,
0:24:30 > 0:24:33where Connie Fisher has been meeting
0:24:33 > 0:24:35some Christian musical theatre stars.
0:24:35 > 0:24:37Ah, this takes me back!
0:24:37 > 0:24:39I remember my Maria days in The Sound Of Music
0:24:39 > 0:24:43here at the London Palladium, but behind the glitz and glamour,
0:24:43 > 0:24:46the world of show business can be very insecure
0:24:46 > 0:24:48with emotional highs and lows,
0:24:48 > 0:24:51and holding on to your faith can be really tough.
0:24:55 > 0:24:58Anna McGarahan is currently in Les Miserables.
0:24:58 > 0:25:01She's one of the many actors on the West End stage who,
0:25:01 > 0:25:03night after night, deliver great performances.
0:25:05 > 0:25:07I grew up in a Christian household.
0:25:07 > 0:25:10My dad's a vicar, but it was when I moved to London
0:25:10 > 0:25:13when I was about 15 and got into a church
0:25:13 > 0:25:15where there was lots of young people,
0:25:15 > 0:25:18that's when my faith kind of flourished, I guess.
0:25:20 > 0:25:23Anna's friend Hannah is in Phantom Of The Opera.
0:25:23 > 0:25:25They're both Christians, but may never have met
0:25:25 > 0:25:29if it hadn't been for a group called West End Has Faith.
0:25:29 > 0:25:32And what's the purpose of the group? Why do you get together?
0:25:32 > 0:25:34In a sense, it feels quite lonely when you're a Christian
0:25:34 > 0:25:36in this business and, for me, especially, I thought
0:25:36 > 0:25:39I was the only one for quite a while
0:25:39 > 0:25:41and the purpose of this is to bring us together
0:25:41 > 0:25:44so that we can support, that we can build up,
0:25:44 > 0:25:47that we can learn together, we can pray together
0:25:47 > 0:25:49or if something is happening at work,
0:25:49 > 0:25:52you can actually understand where you're coming from
0:25:52 > 0:25:54from your Christian perspectives, as well.
0:25:54 > 0:25:57Yeah, because I think lots of us have Christian friends,
0:25:57 > 0:25:59but they don't necessarily know the rollercoaster of emotions
0:25:59 > 0:26:02that you go on as an actress or any kind of creative
0:26:02 > 0:26:04because like you said, it's that uncertainty
0:26:04 > 0:26:07and if you've gone for six or seven auditions
0:26:07 > 0:26:09and you're in the final round
0:26:09 > 0:26:13and then it's a no, it's how to deal with that rejection and...
0:26:13 > 0:26:15After a month of trying!
0:26:15 > 0:26:17Yeah, yeah!
0:26:17 > 0:26:19Or you go from being a lead in one show and then you finish
0:26:19 > 0:26:20and you have three months out of work
0:26:20 > 0:26:22and you can't even get an audition.
0:26:22 > 0:26:27# Holy Word... #
0:26:27 > 0:26:30Today, the group are rehearsing for a charity concert they're holding.
0:26:30 > 0:26:34# ..Mighty Jesus... #
0:26:34 > 0:26:36OK, guys, keep singing, keep singing!
0:26:36 > 0:26:39I'm going to join in.
0:26:39 > 0:26:45# ..Lord of everything... #
0:26:45 > 0:26:47How ruthless is this business?
0:26:47 > 0:26:49Some people think it's glitz and glamour,
0:26:49 > 0:26:52but you've needed your faith at times, right?
0:26:52 > 0:26:54You can't take it personally.
0:26:54 > 0:26:57There have been times where I haven't got jobs
0:26:57 > 0:27:01because my eyebrows aren't right or my eyebrows are too dark
0:27:01 > 0:27:04or I'm too fat, too thin, too tall, too short.
0:27:04 > 0:27:07Like I can't be in 42nd Street because my legs aren't long enough.
0:27:07 > 0:27:09- Really?- So, I'm always too short!
0:27:09 > 0:27:15# ..Here I stand... #
0:27:15 > 0:27:19It says somewhere in the Psalms that we're God's masterpiece
0:27:19 > 0:27:22and I think that's really important to know that,
0:27:22 > 0:27:26regardless of all this rejection, ultimately,
0:27:26 > 0:27:30we are loved and cherished and we can't take that rejection personally
0:27:30 > 0:27:33and I think faith is really important in that
0:27:33 > 0:27:37because if you are grounded in who God says you are,
0:27:37 > 0:27:40not about what other people think of you,
0:27:40 > 0:27:43it makes the rejection easier to deal with.
0:27:43 > 0:27:50# ..To glorify your name! #
0:27:50 > 0:27:54It's great to see how faith can pull actors together
0:27:54 > 0:27:57and some of the members of the group are also part
0:27:57 > 0:28:01of the West End Gospel Choir and here they are to perform for us now.
0:28:02 > 0:28:04# Wait a minute
0:28:04 > 0:28:06# Bring it back
0:28:06 > 0:28:07# Wait a minute
0:28:08 > 0:28:11# When Jesus say yes
0:28:11 > 0:28:13# Nobody can say no
0:28:13 > 0:28:15# When Jesus say yes
0:28:15 > 0:28:17# Nobody can say no
0:28:18 > 0:28:22# I'm not worried about a thing
0:28:22 > 0:28:26# Cos I know you are guiding me
0:28:26 > 0:28:27# Where you lead me
0:28:27 > 0:28:30# Lord, I will go
0:28:30 > 0:28:31# I have no fear
0:28:31 > 0:28:34# Cos I know who's in control
0:28:34 > 0:28:36# There's no limit to what you can do
0:28:36 > 0:28:39# Cos it all belongs to you
0:28:39 > 0:28:42# Yes, it all belongs to you
0:28:42 > 0:28:45# You're almighty and all powerful
0:28:45 > 0:28:47# And it all belongs to you
0:28:47 > 0:28:48# Yes, it all belongs to you
0:28:48 > 0:28:50# When Jesus say yes
0:28:50 > 0:28:52# Nobody can say no
0:28:52 > 0:28:54# When Jesus say yes
0:28:54 > 0:28:56# Nobody can say no
0:28:56 > 0:28:59# When Jesus say yes
0:28:59 > 0:29:01# Nobody can say no
0:29:01 > 0:29:02# When Jesus say yes
0:29:02 > 0:29:05# Nobody can say no
0:29:05 > 0:29:07# When Jesus say yes
0:29:07 > 0:29:08# Nobody can say no
0:29:08 > 0:29:10# When Jesus say yes
0:29:10 > 0:29:12# Nobody can say no
0:29:12 > 0:29:14# When Jesus say yes
0:29:14 > 0:29:16# Can't say no
0:29:16 > 0:29:19# When Jesus say yes
0:29:19 > 0:29:21# Nobody can say no
0:29:21 > 0:29:26# I'm not worried about a thing
0:29:26 > 0:29:30# Cos I know you are guiding me
0:29:30 > 0:29:31# Where you lead me
0:29:31 > 0:29:34# Lord, I will go
0:29:34 > 0:29:35# I have no fear
0:29:35 > 0:29:38# Cos I know who's in control
0:29:38 > 0:29:41# There's no limit to what you can do
0:29:41 > 0:29:43# Cos it all belongs to you
0:29:43 > 0:29:46# Yes, it all belongs to you
0:29:46 > 0:29:48# You're almighty and all powerful
0:29:48 > 0:29:51# And it all belongs to you
0:29:51 > 0:29:54- # Yes, it all belongs to you - Sing it again
0:29:54 > 0:29:57# There's no limit to what you can do
0:29:57 > 0:29:59# Cos it all belongs to you
0:29:59 > 0:30:01# Yes, it all belongs to you
0:30:01 > 0:30:05# You're almighty and all powerful
0:30:05 > 0:30:07# And it all belongs to you
0:30:07 > 0:30:09# Yes, it all belongs to you
0:30:10 > 0:30:12# Wait a minute
0:30:12 > 0:30:13# Bring it back
0:30:15 > 0:30:16# Wait a minute
0:30:16 > 0:30:18# Bring it back
0:30:19 > 0:30:20# Wait a minute
0:30:20 > 0:30:22# Bring it back
0:30:22 > 0:30:23# Whoo
0:30:23 > 0:30:24# Wait a minute
0:30:24 > 0:30:27# When Jesus say yes
0:30:27 > 0:30:29# Nobody can say no
0:30:29 > 0:30:30# When Jesus say yes
0:30:30 > 0:30:32# Nobody can say no
0:30:32 > 0:30:34# When Jesus say yes
0:30:34 > 0:30:37# Nobody can say no
0:30:37 > 0:30:38# When Jesus say yes
0:30:38 > 0:30:40# Nobody can say no. #
0:30:44 > 0:30:47Well, that's just about it from Methodist Central Hall, Westminster.
0:30:47 > 0:30:50Next week, we have a very special programme for you.
0:30:51 > 0:30:55It's Homeless Sunday and I join volunteers from my church
0:30:55 > 0:30:58on their regular early morning tea run in Central London
0:30:58 > 0:31:01and the Reverend Kate Bottley meets a remarkable teenager
0:31:01 > 0:31:06offering a little bag of hope to the homeless in Preston.
0:31:06 > 0:31:08From the early days of the Methodist movement,
0:31:08 > 0:31:11John and Charles Wesley knew the importance of singing
0:31:11 > 0:31:15as a means of learning, celebrating and sharing faith
0:31:15 > 0:31:18and our final hymn does all of that.
0:31:18 > 0:31:22It's a favourite of the congregation here - Father Of Everlasting Grace.