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0:00:03 > 0:00:05This week, I'm in Pembrokeshire,

0:00:05 > 0:00:10taking up a special invitation into a world few get to see.

0:00:10 > 0:00:13I'm going behind the scenes to witness life in a convent -

0:00:13 > 0:00:15Holy Cross Abbey - where,

0:00:15 > 0:00:18as part of their surprisingly busy lives here,

0:00:18 > 0:00:22the nuns tend the local land and run a bit of a food factory.

0:00:22 > 0:00:26It's the first time TV cameras have been allowed here to see those

0:00:26 > 0:00:30who've made a decision to devote their life to God in this way.

0:00:30 > 0:00:34I don't think we choose it, I think we're actually invited.

0:00:34 > 0:00:38It's called a vocation and we don't do the calling.

0:00:38 > 0:00:42And I'll hear how one sister responded to the call.

0:00:42 > 0:00:47I thought, "No, no, no, no, I can't be a nun. No! Absolutely not."

0:00:59 > 0:01:02We've songs old and new coming up,

0:01:02 > 0:01:04but we begin with a traditional favourite,

0:01:04 > 0:01:06which, given where we are,

0:01:06 > 0:01:10reflects the theme of Christian devotion and commitment.

0:03:15 > 0:03:17I've been given an exclusive welcome

0:03:17 > 0:03:19to Holy Cross Abbey in Pembrokeshire,

0:03:19 > 0:03:24an enclosed community of nuns who follow the Cistercian tradition,

0:03:24 > 0:03:26which began in medieval France.

0:03:30 > 0:03:32And to see the variety of work going on here,

0:03:32 > 0:03:35I'm being given a guided tour of the estate

0:03:35 > 0:03:38by the leader of the community, Mother Christine.

0:03:38 > 0:03:42- Well, these are our chickens.- A-huh. - And we sell their eggs.

0:03:42 > 0:03:44- And you have bees, too, don't you? - We do. We do.

0:03:44 > 0:03:47- And a lot of vegetables grow here, I imagine, as well.- Yes, yes.

0:03:47 > 0:03:52We've got potatoes, leeks, a variety of greens.

0:03:52 > 0:03:54I must show you our elderflower.

0:03:54 > 0:03:57- You've an abundance of it. - Yes. We use it to make our bubbly.

0:03:57 > 0:04:00- Ooo, maybe we can try some of that later.- Yes, yes.

0:04:04 > 0:04:07It's very environmental. It's very modern in some ways.

0:04:07 > 0:04:09We have an estate, we have gardens.

0:04:09 > 0:04:14Are people surprised to find out how hands-on you all are?

0:04:14 > 0:04:16I think, certainly when I first entered,

0:04:16 > 0:04:18I had friends who were very surprised.

0:04:18 > 0:04:20They thought I'd be kneeling in front of an altar every day

0:04:20 > 0:04:22and doing nothing else.

0:04:26 > 0:04:29What's day-to-day life like here?

0:04:29 > 0:04:31Well, we're a monastic community

0:04:31 > 0:04:34and there is a monastic rhythm to the day.

0:04:34 > 0:04:39We get up for the first prayers of the day at 3:30

0:04:39 > 0:04:41and then we have times of prayer all through the day.

0:04:43 > 0:04:47Am I right in thinking that you don't normally let cameras inside?

0:04:47 > 0:04:51We haven't done before. We're an enclosed community.

0:04:51 > 0:04:54- But you've made an exception for Songs Of Praise.- Yes, we have.

0:04:54 > 0:04:58- Thank you.- Yes.- Why do you choose to live in a closed community?

0:04:58 > 0:05:02I don't think we choose it, I think we're actually invited.

0:05:02 > 0:05:06It's called a vocation and we don't do the calling.

0:05:08 > 0:05:11When you hear some of the terrible things going on in the world,

0:05:11 > 0:05:14what can you do about it here?

0:05:14 > 0:05:17I think our life is one of intercession.

0:05:17 > 0:05:20- Our Father... - ALL: Who art in heaven.

0:05:20 > 0:05:24Intercession is a prayer for other people.

0:05:24 > 0:05:27Whether they're ill or whether someone had died

0:05:27 > 0:05:30or where there's a violent situation somewhere.

0:05:30 > 0:05:33ALL: And forgive us our trespasses.

0:05:33 > 0:05:36And when we use the word "us", we're not just talking about

0:05:36 > 0:05:40our small community, we're talking about us, the world.

0:05:40 > 0:05:43You take onboard what other people are suffering.

0:05:43 > 0:05:45We just believe that prayer is a very powerful force.

0:05:48 > 0:05:51People often ask, "Oh, it must be so boring,

0:05:51 > 0:05:54"it must be the same every day". No day is the same.

0:05:54 > 0:05:56They're always different.

0:05:56 > 0:05:59And, um...you don't know what's going to happen the next day,

0:05:59 > 0:06:03especially when you're growing things and you've got animals.

0:06:03 > 0:06:06So, in the summer at least, you're self-sufficient here?

0:06:06 > 0:06:10Yes, but in many ways, being in the monastery makes you realise

0:06:10 > 0:06:13that you're not self-sufficient at all.

0:06:13 > 0:06:17There's a great reliance, um...on the Lord.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59While Holy Cross is an enclosed community,

0:08:59 > 0:09:02the nuns here do come into contact with others.

0:09:03 > 0:09:07There are two male members of staff employed for the heavy-duty farming.

0:09:11 > 0:09:14And the sisters often take a trip into the local community.

0:09:14 > 0:09:17Of course, we go out, we do our own shopping.

0:09:17 > 0:09:20- Can I collect my prescription, please?- Yes. What's the name?

0:09:20 > 0:09:23And we have to go out for various things, so we're known locally.

0:09:23 > 0:09:25Thanks very much. Thank you. You're welcome.

0:09:25 > 0:09:28- Thank you. Bye-bye.- OK. Bye-bye. Bye.- Bye.

0:09:28 > 0:09:31They know where we come from and they know who we are.

0:09:31 > 0:09:34We work in teams with most of what we do.

0:09:34 > 0:09:37Yes, there is a sort of ease with each other.

0:09:37 > 0:09:39- Lovely to meet you. - And you, too. Sister Jean?

0:09:39 > 0:09:42And although we are an enclosed community,

0:09:42 > 0:09:46there is a welcome and an openness for people who come.

0:11:56 > 0:11:58BIRDSONG

0:12:00 > 0:12:02Although they live in a modern building,

0:12:02 > 0:12:05the nuns at Holy Cross Abbey practise age-old traditions.

0:12:05 > 0:12:09One of which is singing plainchant in Latin.

0:12:13 > 0:12:16We don't have the skills that a lot of people have,

0:12:16 > 0:12:18so we have to do what we can with what we've got.

0:12:20 > 0:12:22We're all mixed abilities.

0:12:22 > 0:12:24You'd be surprised the number of women that come

0:12:24 > 0:12:26who've been told to shut up or not to sing.

0:12:26 > 0:12:31But somehow, we have to encourage them to sing. We need their support.

0:12:31 > 0:12:33And I've never had anyone that can't sing in the end.

0:12:33 > 0:12:35They come up and they come down.

0:12:35 > 0:12:39If we come down gently, like we do on the Alleluias...

0:12:39 > 0:12:41But it doesn't matter that we're not professionals

0:12:41 > 0:12:45because the heart goes into it. You have to put your heart into it.

0:12:45 > 0:12:47You couldn't do it any other way.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49And because you're singing it for God and to God,

0:12:49 > 0:12:52it is a dialogue, it's a prayer,

0:12:52 > 0:12:55but it's great fun and we really enjoy it.

0:12:56 > 0:12:59These are chants that have been sung for centuries.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01These are centuries old.

0:13:01 > 0:13:03In that way, they're certainly timeless.

0:13:05 > 0:13:11# O Sanctissima

0:13:11 > 0:13:17# O Piissima

0:13:17 > 0:13:27# Dulcis Virgo Maria

0:13:28 > 0:13:34# O Sanctissima

0:13:34 > 0:13:40# O Piissima

0:13:40 > 0:13:50# Dulcis Virgo Maria

0:13:52 > 0:14:03# Mater amta intemerata

0:14:03 > 0:14:14# Ora ora pro nobis

0:14:14 > 0:14:25# Mater amta intemerata

0:14:25 > 0:14:38# Ora ora pro nobis

0:14:38 > 0:14:51# Mater amta intemerata

0:14:51 > 0:15:04# Ora ora pro nobis

0:15:06 > 0:15:13# Amen

0:15:16 > 0:15:27# Amen

0:15:28 > 0:15:35# Amen. #

0:15:39 > 0:15:42BIRDSONG

0:15:43 > 0:15:46Every church tradition starts somewhere.

0:15:46 > 0:15:47And over the last few weeks,

0:15:47 > 0:15:51we've been looking at the origins of some of them.

0:15:51 > 0:15:54And this week, Richard Taylor is in Gloucestershire,

0:15:54 > 0:15:57looking at the founding of the Baptist church in the UK.

0:16:01 > 0:16:03The Baptist movement nowadays

0:16:03 > 0:16:07numbers more than 40 million people spread all around the world.

0:16:07 > 0:16:11But for me, if you want to understand the origins,

0:16:11 > 0:16:15the energy and the sheer charisma of the Baptists,

0:16:15 > 0:16:19there's no better place to come than Tewkesbury.

0:16:22 > 0:16:26Historians trace modern Baptists to the early 17th century

0:16:26 > 0:16:28and the English separatists.

0:16:28 > 0:16:32Separatists was the name given to anyone who objected to

0:16:32 > 0:16:36and separated from the Church of England.

0:16:36 > 0:16:38They were regarded as a threat to society,

0:16:38 > 0:16:42to be imprisoned and even executed.

0:16:42 > 0:16:46And so, in 1609, a little group of separatists from Lincolnshire,

0:16:46 > 0:16:48led by a man called John Smyth,

0:16:48 > 0:16:51fled Britain to the religious freedom of Amsterdam.

0:16:53 > 0:16:56There, the group developed certain distinctive beliefs and practises

0:16:56 > 0:16:58which we would now call Baptist,

0:16:58 > 0:17:03before re-importing their ideas to Britain.

0:17:05 > 0:17:08Now, this is Tewkesbury Abbey,

0:17:08 > 0:17:11a vast and imposing symbol of the establishment.

0:17:11 > 0:17:14Locals on a Sunday would have been expected to come here to worship.

0:17:14 > 0:17:16The great and the good at the front,

0:17:16 > 0:17:20servants and workers firmly at the back.

0:17:23 > 0:17:26And here, hidden away down this little backstreet

0:17:26 > 0:17:31in the shadow of the abbey, is the Old Baptist Chapel.

0:17:31 > 0:17:34One of the earliest Baptist meetinghouses in the world.

0:17:38 > 0:17:42This little chapel is just stunning.

0:17:42 > 0:17:46It's so simple. Just plain walls and clear glass

0:17:46 > 0:17:48and a pulpit for the preaching.

0:17:48 > 0:17:53The people who came here were artisans and servants.

0:17:53 > 0:17:57No wonder they preferred this to worshipping across the road at the abbey,

0:17:57 > 0:18:01behind the lords and ladies that they waited on during the week.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03Here, they were with people who loved them,

0:18:03 > 0:18:07who treated them as an equal, who were their friends.

0:18:09 > 0:18:13John Smyth formulated what would become a central belief and ritual

0:18:13 > 0:18:15of the Baptist movement.

0:18:15 > 0:18:19This is the Old Chapel's original baptismal pool.

0:18:19 > 0:18:21An amazing survival!

0:18:21 > 0:18:25On a baptism day, it would have been filled to the brim with water

0:18:25 > 0:18:29from the local well, and freezing cold.

0:18:29 > 0:18:33Then the person to be baptised would be dressed in a light robe.

0:18:33 > 0:18:37And the minister would lead them down the steps

0:18:37 > 0:18:40and into the pool, where, saying the words of baptism,

0:18:40 > 0:18:42they would be fully submerged,

0:18:42 > 0:18:47before being brought back up and into the light.

0:18:47 > 0:18:51It's a physical, public, exposing ritual,

0:18:51 > 0:18:54like being buried and brought back to life.

0:18:54 > 0:18:57And when they opened their eyes, they would see around them

0:18:57 > 0:19:02their new family, the people who surrounded them here.

0:19:03 > 0:19:08To learn more about early Baptists, I'm talking to Simon Lawton,

0:19:08 > 0:19:10curator of the chapel.

0:19:10 > 0:19:12Baptists were people that thought

0:19:12 > 0:19:14the Reformation hadn't gone far enough.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16They wanted a return to a simpler,

0:19:16 > 0:19:19scripture-based version of religion.

0:19:19 > 0:19:22The Baptist ceremony in a private meeting house,

0:19:22 > 0:19:24which is what this would've been, gave them a chance

0:19:24 > 0:19:26to actually debate and understand

0:19:26 > 0:19:29the scripture and understand the Bible.

0:19:29 > 0:19:32Some Baptist ceremonies, you hear cases of them smoking, being very relaxed

0:19:32 > 0:19:35and, of course, a lot of Baptists would then troop along to the abbey

0:19:35 > 0:19:40and start to behave in a similar way there, which was a no-go.

0:19:41 > 0:19:43We're really fortunate in that our Baptists kept

0:19:43 > 0:19:48a minute book that goes from 1655 right up until 1808.

0:19:48 > 0:19:52And what we've had done is had it digitised so people can actually

0:19:52 > 0:19:56understand the mind-set of people from the 17th and 18th century.

0:19:56 > 0:19:57What sort of things are they saying?

0:19:57 > 0:20:00Ooo, they're always throwing people out

0:20:00 > 0:20:02for swearing, fornication, drunkenness.

0:20:02 > 0:20:05Our Baptists, they very much saw themselves

0:20:05 > 0:20:08as a little island of the godly in the sea of the ungodly.

0:20:12 > 0:20:14It was from tiny seeds like this

0:20:14 > 0:20:17that the worldwide Baptist movement was born.

0:20:17 > 0:20:22But what I find so remarkable is how little has changed.

0:20:22 > 0:20:27The same rituals, the same independence of spirit

0:20:27 > 0:20:29and the same love for one another.

0:24:13 > 0:24:16At Holy Cross Abbey, the nuns produce

0:24:16 > 0:24:18a range of food and drink onsite,

0:24:18 > 0:24:21including their own brew of elderflower bubbly.

0:24:21 > 0:24:23Cheers to that!

0:24:26 > 0:24:30But the main production line here is for wafer-thin Communion bread.

0:24:32 > 0:24:34It's a much-needed source of income

0:24:34 > 0:24:36which helps keep the convent in business.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39- Yes!- Yay! Success!

0:24:40 > 0:24:42After being cut into shape,

0:24:42 > 0:24:46the wafers are sold to over 400 churches around the UK.

0:24:47 > 0:24:49And, in charge of the operation is Sister Jo,

0:24:49 > 0:24:52who's been a nun for 12 years.

0:24:52 > 0:24:54It's a far cry from her old life

0:24:54 > 0:24:57as a senior nurse in accident and emergency.

0:24:57 > 0:25:00It was a great job, it really was.

0:25:00 > 0:25:04I had a good bunch of friends, I had a nice social life.

0:25:04 > 0:25:06So, you know, life was good.

0:25:06 > 0:25:10But just this horrible inside thing of, you know,

0:25:10 > 0:25:12- that there was something missing. - Mm-hm.

0:25:12 > 0:25:16And I was involved in a trip to France to a monastery

0:25:16 > 0:25:20and for the first time in my life, I heard silence.

0:25:20 > 0:25:25Not as an ear thing or a head thing, but as a heart thing.

0:25:27 > 0:25:31I can only say it was, you know, God's, er...kick up the...

0:25:31 > 0:25:34proverbial to get me moving, basically.

0:25:34 > 0:25:38And I thought, "No, no, no, no, I can't be a nun. No!"

0:25:38 > 0:25:40THEY CHANT

0:25:42 > 0:25:46As you go through the process of formation, it takes six years.

0:25:46 > 0:25:52And at the end of the six years, then you take your solemn vows.

0:25:52 > 0:25:54Jo, in the 12 years that you've been here,

0:25:54 > 0:25:57what are the biggest changes that you've experienced?

0:25:57 > 0:26:00- If can imagine your workmates... - Mm-hm.

0:26:00 > 0:26:02..and then living with them.

0:26:02 > 0:26:04At 9:30, I'll be back.

0:26:04 > 0:26:08It requires a lot of charity on everybody's part. Ha-ha!

0:26:08 > 0:26:11The prologue continued.

0:26:11 > 0:26:15The things I used to get picked up most on was my mouth.

0:26:15 > 0:26:19- There are words here that normally, I didn't think were that bad.- Mm-hm.

0:26:19 > 0:26:21But they are swearwords.

0:26:23 > 0:26:27Going to church seven times a day to praise God

0:26:27 > 0:26:31means that when you're just stuck in with your work,

0:26:31 > 0:26:34or the meal just needs another five minutes,

0:26:34 > 0:26:36- but I can't, I've got to go.- Yeah.

0:26:36 > 0:26:42Then those are the disciplines that you have to say, "No".

0:26:42 > 0:26:44- It drives you bonkers!- Yes.

0:26:44 > 0:26:47- You know, just two minutes and I could finish this!- Yep.

0:26:47 > 0:26:51But I'd be late and you don't want to be late.

0:26:51 > 0:26:53Because we pray together.

0:26:53 > 0:26:57And if one person's late, then it upsets the togetherness of it.

0:26:57 > 0:27:01And the fire and the smoke and the sulphur...

0:27:01 > 0:27:04Obviously, you know, there are times when,

0:27:04 > 0:27:07at the end of a day that hasn't gone your way

0:27:07 > 0:27:09and you want to just go off to the pub somewhere

0:27:09 > 0:27:11and have a chat and have a moan.

0:27:11 > 0:27:13And of course, we don't do that.

0:27:13 > 0:27:17Um...and we sit there and we go, "God, what happened?

0:27:17 > 0:27:20"Why did it go so horribly wrong?"

0:27:20 > 0:27:23Um... Or, you know, "Oh, help".

0:27:23 > 0:27:25And you find that help is there?

0:27:25 > 0:27:28- And it is.- Yeah.- Yeah. Yeah.

0:27:28 > 0:27:30God wants us to be happy

0:27:30 > 0:27:35- and we should have some joy in how we live, really.- Mm-hm.

0:27:35 > 0:27:39And are you happier here than you were 12 years ago,

0:27:39 > 0:27:40working in a busy A&E?

0:27:40 > 0:27:43Um...yes. Yes.

0:27:43 > 0:27:48Yeah. Um...I can say that, you know, I wouldn't go back.

0:30:08 > 0:30:10Well, that's it from Holy Cross Abbey.

0:30:10 > 0:30:12It's been fascinating to meet the nuns

0:30:12 > 0:30:17and to have a look behind what are usually closed doors.

0:30:19 > 0:30:21Before our final song,

0:30:21 > 0:30:26we join the sisters ending the day as they always do, in prayer.

0:30:26 > 0:30:30God of mercy and reconciliation,

0:30:30 > 0:30:33mercifully come to our aid.

0:30:33 > 0:30:35That as we receive your message of peace,

0:30:35 > 0:30:40so we may work with you to restore all things in Christ.

0:30:42 > 0:30:44ALL: Amen.

0:33:31 > 0:33:33APPLAUSE