0:00:03 > 0:00:05- Right.- Up and down the country...
0:00:05 > 0:00:08Oops, forgot the drum.
0:00:08 > 0:00:12I'm delighted to say we've got a new member.
0:00:16 > 0:00:19Nice of them to let us out of the office.
0:00:19 > 0:00:22Do you think they even know we've gone?
0:00:28 > 0:00:31- This is lovely!- It is!
0:00:31 > 0:00:33It's Ampleforth Abbey, near York,
0:00:33 > 0:00:37and listen...silence, it's so peaceful!
0:00:37 > 0:00:39And it ought to be because the
0:00:39 > 0:00:41monastery here is home to the biggest
0:00:41 > 0:00:43Benedictine community of monks in the UK and they're,
0:00:43 > 0:00:45kind of, experts at being tranquil.
0:00:45 > 0:00:48Hmmm...and perhaps there's something in it for all of us.
0:00:48 > 0:00:50I'm going to learn to Gregorian Chant,
0:00:50 > 0:00:53which apparently can lower blood pressure and reduce stress levels.
0:00:53 > 0:00:55HE SIGHS
0:00:55 > 0:00:57And while he's chanting I'll be drinking, actually.
0:00:57 > 0:01:00It's cider, this is a great cider making community here -
0:01:00 > 0:01:03it's part of the monk's self sufficiency rule.
0:01:03 > 0:01:05I definitely drew the short straw.
0:01:05 > 0:01:06Also on today's programme,
0:01:06 > 0:01:09it's the Songs Of Praise family's final challenge,
0:01:09 > 0:01:13as the chatty Corrs spend hours in silence on a religious retreat.
0:01:13 > 0:01:17And there are beautiful, soothing hymns to match the mood.
0:01:25 > 0:01:29Monks have been here in Ampleforth since 1802,
0:01:29 > 0:01:32when the estate was donated to the Benedictine community.
0:01:32 > 0:01:36But their history stretches back hundreds of years before.
0:01:38 > 0:01:41Here they live by the ancient rule of St Benedict,
0:01:41 > 0:01:45a man who lived in a cave 1,500 years ago.
0:01:45 > 0:01:48The thing about St Benedict is that even though
0:01:48 > 0:01:51he decided to live his life like a hermit, like a monk,
0:01:51 > 0:01:54people from far and wide sought him out to ask him
0:01:54 > 0:01:57for advice for their walk with God and he responded.
0:01:57 > 0:02:01But he found himself advising them not to do it alone
0:02:01 > 0:02:04but to do it together, as a community.
0:02:06 > 0:02:10So, he took his own advice, left the cave, founded his first monastery
0:02:10 > 0:02:14and went on to establish 11 more in his lifetime.
0:02:14 > 0:02:18His vision of how to live the monastic life is still
0:02:18 > 0:02:20followed by the monks here today.
0:04:13 > 0:04:16It's not all scripture and solemnity at Ampleforth,
0:04:16 > 0:04:20there's also the chance to explore the ancient apple orchard
0:04:20 > 0:04:23and even try the cider they make. Hello there.
0:04:23 > 0:04:27Cameron Smith is the orchard manager at Ampleforth
0:04:27 > 0:04:30and he's putting me to work, bottling the latest vintage.
0:04:34 > 0:04:38- You could get a job...- I'm enjoying this, I have to say!
0:04:39 > 0:04:43It is funny, you know, though, to think of this being a monastery.
0:04:43 > 0:04:46I mean, it shouldn't be if you know your history, I suppose.
0:04:46 > 0:04:48It's so hi tech, isn't it?
0:04:48 > 0:04:53- Yes...ish.- Well, compared to the picture you would have of monks.
0:04:53 > 0:04:56For an artisan production, which is what we are.
0:04:56 > 0:04:58In terms of the monks,
0:04:58 > 0:05:01the Benedictine Order has always had a history of being
0:05:01 > 0:05:05commercially savvy and making sure they get the most out of what
0:05:05 > 0:05:07they have and this is just another aspect of that.
0:05:07 > 0:05:12- I think I'm outpacing your lid making.- No, I've run out of caps!
0:05:12 > 0:05:14LAUGHTER
0:05:14 > 0:05:16Shortage of caps but that's super!
0:05:16 > 0:05:18Yeah, great! Well, I think we should go outside
0:05:18 > 0:05:20because I think I fancy a drink.
0:05:20 > 0:05:21Right, let's go.
0:05:23 > 0:05:26What on earth have you got for me here?
0:05:26 > 0:05:30Before I find out, though, what's it like working with monks?
0:05:30 > 0:05:33Well, I enjoy it because of the Benedictine values.
0:05:33 > 0:05:36They've got some lovely values where, basically, treat
0:05:36 > 0:05:39people like you'd like to be treated yourself.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41The edict of half a day's prayer,
0:05:41 > 0:05:44half a day's hard labour fits with this work and it's just
0:05:44 > 0:05:49the natural coming together of their values and what I enjoy doing.
0:05:49 > 0:05:51Tell me what I've got here.
0:05:51 > 0:05:54I've got to warn you that I get very tiddly very quickly on
0:05:54 > 0:05:57- very little, so, erm...- This could be a headache then.- Yes.
0:05:57 > 0:05:59Right, we've got three sorts of cider.
0:05:59 > 0:06:03We've got an 8.3 cider, a sparkling 6.5 and a still 6.5
0:06:03 > 0:06:07and more than anything I'd like to know what you think of them,
0:06:07 > 0:06:10- which would you prefer to drink if you were drinking cider.- OK.
0:06:10 > 0:06:14- Right, so...- There we go with that one.- So, this is the 8.3?
0:06:14 > 0:06:17It's supposed to be a mystery but I'll let you cheat.
0:06:19 > 0:06:22This is actually the one that you've just bottled,
0:06:22 > 0:06:23only this is in its finished state.
0:06:23 > 0:06:27- Yeah, that's quite nice. It doesn't taste too strong, actually.- No.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30- OK...right.- Next one's sparkling.
0:06:30 > 0:06:32- I like a bit of sparkle.- Yeah.
0:06:32 > 0:06:35Oooh, now, I'm liking that!
0:06:35 > 0:06:37- You like that one?- Yes, uh-huh!
0:06:37 > 0:06:40That's lost a bit of bubble but it's still got some there.
0:06:40 > 0:06:41Says she, gulping back another one.
0:06:41 > 0:06:43I'm going to have to stop here, right.
0:06:43 > 0:06:46Last but not least, something else that we can do with cider
0:06:46 > 0:06:48and do do with cider, make it into cider brandy.
0:06:48 > 0:06:50Yorkshire's Calvados!
0:06:50 > 0:06:52Cameron, you know I have a programme to present here!
0:06:52 > 0:06:54You can sleep later.
0:06:57 > 0:07:00Oooh, boy, that's strong!
0:07:00 > 0:07:01Yeah.
0:07:01 > 0:07:04It's a fierce spirit but it warms you on a cold day in the North.
0:07:04 > 0:07:06Cheers, David!
0:09:11 > 0:09:14Morning mass at Ampleforth Abbey.
0:09:17 > 0:09:21Gregorian chant is at the heart of their daily worship
0:09:21 > 0:09:24and I wanted to hear it first-hand.
0:09:24 > 0:09:27THEY CHANT
0:09:27 > 0:09:30Monks have been singing like this for thousands of years
0:09:30 > 0:09:34and it's something that Father Alexander, choir master
0:09:34 > 0:09:38and Gregorian chant composer takes very seriously.
0:09:38 > 0:09:41How important is Gregorian chant to the community here?
0:09:41 > 0:09:45It is so important that we don't talk about it.
0:09:45 > 0:09:49It's too deeply embedded in our culture, in our monastic culture.
0:09:49 > 0:09:55It is something, I believe, that feeds souls...
0:09:55 > 0:09:57it nourishes them.
0:09:57 > 0:10:01It brings people into a much closer relationship with God.
0:10:03 > 0:10:08How important are the acoustics of this abbey to Gregorian chant?
0:10:08 > 0:10:10Well, the acoustics of this abbey serve
0:10:10 > 0:10:13the purpose of Gregorian chant better than any I've ever
0:10:13 > 0:10:16been in really because it has this amazing echo,
0:10:16 > 0:10:21- which lasts, believe it or not, six seconds.- Six seconds?!
0:10:21 > 0:10:24- Shall we try it?- Go on, show me, show me!
0:10:24 > 0:10:25OK, erm...
0:10:25 > 0:10:28# La. #
0:10:28 > 0:10:30NOTES ECHO
0:10:31 > 0:10:33You're right!
0:10:33 > 0:10:36With the sound still ringing in my ears,
0:10:36 > 0:10:40I wanted to know just how the choir master wrote this sacred plainsong.
0:10:40 > 0:10:42I start with the words first.
0:10:42 > 0:10:45Everything starts with the words, with the text.
0:10:45 > 0:10:48- So, you don't need a bass clef, you don't need a treble clef?- No, no.
0:10:48 > 0:10:52- You don't need to have a time signature?- No, you don't.
0:10:52 > 0:10:56You read these notes because they all represent pitches,
0:10:56 > 0:10:58particular pitches, F...
0:10:58 > 0:10:59'And then he began to compose,
0:10:59 > 0:11:03'in a way completely different to anything I'd ever seen before.'
0:11:03 > 0:11:04So, the text here,
0:11:04 > 0:11:09"The Lord is compassion and love, slow to anger and rich in mercy,"
0:11:09 > 0:11:13I have in my mind...a particular
0:11:13 > 0:11:15mood that I want to create.
0:11:15 > 0:11:20Intimacy, a sense of closeness and you've got to find
0:11:20 > 0:11:26the notes that will reflect these particular divine qualities.
0:11:26 > 0:11:31And within a few minutes, the line from Psalm 103 was coming together.
0:11:34 > 0:11:38So, the architecture of the thing is that you've got a phrase that
0:11:38 > 0:11:42actually moves out into the world and then moves slowly back.
0:11:44 > 0:11:49# The Lord is compassion and love
0:11:49 > 0:11:54# Slow to anger and rich in mercy
0:11:56 > 0:12:01# The Lord is compassion and love
0:12:01 > 0:12:07# Slow to anger and rich in mercy. #
0:12:09 > 0:12:11- Wow!- That was brilliant, congratulations!
0:12:11 > 0:12:14- It's beautiful!- That's your first ever, isn't it?
0:12:14 > 0:12:17That is beautiful! I can't believe you just wrote that.
0:12:28 > 0:12:31# The lord is my shepherd
0:12:31 > 0:12:34# I shall not want
0:12:34 > 0:12:40# He maketh me to lie down in green pastures
0:12:40 > 0:12:46# He leadeth me
0:12:47 > 0:12:52# Beside the still waters
0:12:56 > 0:13:00# The lord is my shepherd
0:13:00 > 0:13:02# I shall not want
0:13:03 > 0:13:09# He maketh me to lie down in green pastures
0:13:10 > 0:13:15# He leadeth me
0:13:17 > 0:13:21# Beside the still waters
0:13:27 > 0:13:33# Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
0:13:35 > 0:13:38# I will fear no evil
0:13:40 > 0:13:47# Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
0:13:48 > 0:13:51# I will fear no evil
0:13:54 > 0:13:56# For you are with me
0:13:58 > 0:14:00# You will comfort me
0:14:01 > 0:14:03# You are with me
0:14:04 > 0:14:07# You will comfort me
0:14:13 > 0:14:15# Comfort me
0:14:20 > 0:14:25# Surely goodness and mercy
0:14:26 > 0:14:31# Shall follow me all the days of my life
0:14:33 > 0:14:35# And I will dwell
0:14:35 > 0:14:42# In the house of the Lord
0:14:42 > 0:14:44# For ever
0:14:48 > 0:14:50# For ever
0:14:55 > 0:14:58# For ever
0:15:03 > 0:15:08# For ever. #
0:15:17 > 0:15:20The Corrs, a Catholic family from Essex.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23Earlier this year, they responded to our appeal for a family to
0:15:23 > 0:15:26take part in some of our programmes over the summer.
0:15:26 > 0:15:30The idea is that we set them some challenges, so that you find
0:15:30 > 0:15:34out how their Christian faith is woven into their lives.
0:15:35 > 0:15:39This week it's their final challenge and we're really putting them
0:15:39 > 0:15:41to the test.
0:15:41 > 0:15:43The gadget lovers are off on a religious retreat
0:15:43 > 0:15:46but they don't quite realise it yet.
0:15:46 > 0:15:47So this is Aylesford Priory
0:15:47 > 0:15:50and I'm guessing you don't know why you're here.
0:15:50 > 0:15:53- No.- No idea.- No idea, whatsoever?- No.
0:15:53 > 0:15:58You, for the next 24 hours, are going to enter into a time of retreat.
0:15:58 > 0:16:01And not any old retreat, a tough one.
0:16:01 > 0:16:03So, if you've got a mobile telephone,
0:16:03 > 0:16:05can you put it in there, please?
0:16:05 > 0:16:07With a no-screens weekend ahead...
0:16:07 > 0:16:09Phone amnesty.
0:16:09 > 0:16:13..the family were split up into sparse separate rooms,
0:16:13 > 0:16:15including Mum and Dad.
0:16:15 > 0:16:19When we arrived we were a little bit anxious about the challenge ahead.
0:16:19 > 0:16:21Before they knew it,
0:16:21 > 0:16:25they were thrown into a situation quite alien to such a chatty family.
0:16:25 > 0:16:27So, here we are in the peace garden
0:16:27 > 0:16:31and the hour of silence is about to begin.
0:16:31 > 0:16:34The idea of silence is a very good idea for any person,
0:16:34 > 0:16:38simply because it confronts us with something very real.
0:16:39 > 0:16:43And for the Christian person it's an opportunity to be open to
0:16:43 > 0:16:46something which is greater than ourselves.
0:16:47 > 0:16:50Although initially there were a few moments of Sam and Sophie
0:16:50 > 0:16:55bending the rules, the family seemed quickly to embrace the challenge.
0:17:09 > 0:17:12After the first hour in the peace garden
0:17:12 > 0:17:15the silent challenge continued.
0:17:15 > 0:17:19Silent prayer in church, silent prayer through dinner
0:17:19 > 0:17:21and even back in their rooms.
0:17:21 > 0:17:25The rules were to stay apart and to stay quiet,
0:17:25 > 0:17:27while reflecting on their faith on paper.
0:17:34 > 0:17:40But they kept it up right up until bedtime prayers with Father Brendan.
0:17:40 > 0:17:42Our God, you search me and you know me.
0:17:42 > 0:17:44All my ways lie open to your gaze.
0:19:49 > 0:19:53On their weekend retreat, the Corrs had spent much of their first day
0:19:53 > 0:19:57in silence and the next morning they were in reflective mood.
0:19:57 > 0:20:01It was really hard but actually it really made you think,
0:20:01 > 0:20:04"Hang on a minute, there's more to life than just talking."
0:20:04 > 0:20:08Sometimes, you just need to sit and reflect.
0:20:08 > 0:20:12And the girls, with a new-found relationship with a proper friar,
0:20:12 > 0:20:13decided that they wanted to know
0:20:13 > 0:20:17more about life in the habit, so they put him in the hot seat.
0:20:17 > 0:20:20As a friar, why do you wear funny clothes?
0:20:20 > 0:20:22You think my clothes are funny?
0:20:22 > 0:20:24I noticed last night
0:20:24 > 0:20:27when we had our night prayer that you were all in your onesies.
0:20:27 > 0:20:30Erm, this is my threesy, OK.
0:20:30 > 0:20:32So, it's actually three pieces of clothing
0:20:32 > 0:20:34and actually underneath I've got normal clothes.
0:20:34 > 0:20:36I'm wearing my jeans underneath.
0:20:36 > 0:20:39This is called the tunic but if you think back to when we started,
0:20:39 > 0:20:44it was back in the 13th century, people wore tunics
0:20:44 > 0:20:48and friars really wanted to be amongst the ordinary people.
0:20:48 > 0:20:52Do you wish you had a family of your own? Do you ever get slightly lonely?
0:20:52 > 0:20:56Yes, it would be lovely to have my own family
0:20:56 > 0:21:00and I feel that especially when I see my sister's family
0:21:00 > 0:21:02and my brother's family.
0:21:02 > 0:21:06So, sometimes, I wouldn't say I'm jealous but I think,
0:21:06 > 0:21:08"Mmm, that would have been nice."
0:21:08 > 0:21:11The girls were preparing for their upcoming confirmation
0:21:11 > 0:21:14and so they also wanted to get to the bottom of something that
0:21:14 > 0:21:16had been really worrying them.
0:21:16 > 0:21:19Can you give me some advice on going to confession?
0:21:19 > 0:21:22Rule number one, always be yourselves.
0:21:22 > 0:21:26You don't have to be at confession cos you're holy.
0:21:26 > 0:21:29Be honest, there's no point going in and pretending and there's
0:21:29 > 0:21:33absolutely nothing we can do in our lives that God can't forgive.
0:21:35 > 0:21:38I think it was a really good idea for us to have silence
0:21:38 > 0:21:40and to have solitude
0:21:40 > 0:21:44because actually my pace of life is too fast and sometimes I do need to
0:21:44 > 0:21:49slow it down and to think of having some time with just me and God.
0:21:49 > 0:21:51Well, there is this phrase, isn't there,
0:21:51 > 0:21:54"If you're too busy for God, you're too busy."
0:21:58 > 0:22:04# When I survive the wondrous cross
0:22:07 > 0:22:13# On which the Prince of glory died
0:22:16 > 0:22:23# My richest gain I count but loss
0:22:25 > 0:22:31# And pour contempt on all my pride
0:22:35 > 0:22:38# Forbid it, Lord
0:22:38 > 0:22:43# That I should boast
0:22:43 > 0:22:46# Save in the death
0:22:47 > 0:22:52# Of Christ my God!
0:22:52 > 0:22:56# All the vain things
0:22:56 > 0:23:00# That charm me most
0:23:01 > 0:23:05# I sacrifice them
0:23:05 > 0:23:08# To His blood
0:23:45 > 0:23:52# Were the whole realm of nature mine
0:23:55 > 0:24:01# That were a present far too small
0:24:03 > 0:24:09# Love so amazing
0:24:09 > 0:24:11# So divine
0:24:13 > 0:24:17# Demands my soul
0:24:17 > 0:24:21# My life, my all. #
0:24:26 > 0:24:30BELL RINGS
0:24:30 > 0:24:33MONKS CHANT
0:24:33 > 0:24:36Back at Ampleforth, I was really getting
0:24:36 > 0:24:39stuck into Gregorian chanting.
0:24:39 > 0:24:42Father Alexander, I can't believe you said you were going to teach me
0:24:42 > 0:24:44and you have! That's brilliant!
0:24:44 > 0:24:47Hang on a minute, David, there's a little bit more to this.
0:24:47 > 0:24:49Why don't you come and join us at vespers
0:24:49 > 0:24:52if you want to sing some more plainchant? That's the real thing.
0:24:52 > 0:24:55And I could teach you a nice little phrase that you would get used to.
0:24:55 > 0:24:57Singing with you and the other monks?
0:24:57 > 0:25:00And the other monks...would you like to do that?
0:25:00 > 0:25:02I'd love to, I'd love to, I'd love to!
0:25:02 > 0:25:04But then it dawned on me that what he wanted me
0:25:04 > 0:25:07to learn wasn't English Gregorian chant,
0:25:07 > 0:25:09it was Latin!
0:25:09 > 0:25:14Quoniam in aeternum misericordia eius.
0:25:14 > 0:25:15As you can probably tell,
0:25:15 > 0:25:18there wasn't a big call for Latin in East London when I was growing up.
0:25:18 > 0:25:20I think you're doing very well.
0:25:20 > 0:25:21What does it mean?
0:25:21 > 0:25:26It means, for - quoniam, for ever - in aeternum,
0:25:26 > 0:25:28misecordia eius - His love.
0:25:28 > 0:25:32So, His love lasts or endures for ever.
0:25:32 > 0:25:34I'm going to have to work at that, aren't I?
0:25:34 > 0:25:38Oh, by the way, I forgot, there are notes to it as well, aren't there?
0:25:38 > 0:25:40There are notes as well.
0:25:40 > 0:25:42- I think the time has come, don't you?- Yes.
0:25:42 > 0:25:44Are you prepared for this, ready?
0:25:44 > 0:25:46OK, so...
0:25:50 > 0:25:54# Confitemini Domino, quoniam bonus...#
0:25:54 > 0:25:56Now this is your phrase.
0:25:56 > 0:26:02# Quoniam in aeternum misericordia eius.
0:26:03 > 0:26:08# Quoniam in aeternum misericordia eius...#
0:26:10 > 0:26:12Essentially it is, yes.
0:26:12 > 0:26:14# Corida eius. #
0:26:14 > 0:26:17Two notes on the A, those two notes go on the A.
0:26:17 > 0:26:21And although it was only one short line, it did take a bit of practice.
0:26:21 > 0:26:26# Quoniam in aeternum misericordia eius. #
0:26:37 > 0:26:39MONKS CHANT
0:26:40 > 0:26:45Later, at their evening service, as promised, Father Alexander gave me
0:26:45 > 0:26:48the chance to be part of an ancient monastic tradition
0:26:48 > 0:26:51that has been sung for centuries.
0:26:51 > 0:26:53I felt quite nervous.
0:26:53 > 0:26:56At least there was a familiar face in there too.
0:27:01 > 0:27:06I only knew one line and I didn't know when it was coming exactly
0:27:06 > 0:27:08but luckily it was a phrase that was
0:27:08 > 0:27:12sung over and over and over, giving me plenty of chances to get it right.
0:27:14 > 0:27:19# Quoniam in aeternum misericordia eius. #
0:27:19 > 0:27:24And it's true what Father Alexander says, it does feed the soul.
0:27:26 > 0:27:31# Quoniam in aeternum misericordia eius. #
0:27:37 > 0:27:40THE MONKS CHANT
0:27:43 > 0:27:45Well, how was it?
0:27:46 > 0:27:50It was really kind of strange and then beautiful.
0:27:50 > 0:27:54It was actually very moving, I found.
0:27:54 > 0:27:57I think it shows that if something's sung with sincerity, you don't
0:27:57 > 0:28:00necessarily have to understand the words to be touched by it,
0:28:00 > 0:28:01cos I was really touched by it.
0:28:01 > 0:28:03- You did very well.- Thank you.
0:28:05 > 0:28:09# Pie Jesu
0:28:09 > 0:28:12# Domine
0:28:14 > 0:28:19# Dona eis
0:28:19 > 0:28:23# Requiem
0:28:24 > 0:28:28# Dona
0:28:28 > 0:28:32# Dona eis
0:28:34 > 0:28:38# Requiem
0:28:43 > 0:28:47# Pie Jesu
0:28:49 > 0:28:52# Domine
0:28:55 > 0:29:01# Dona eis
0:29:03 > 0:29:09# Sempiternam
0:29:19 > 0:29:23# Requiem
0:29:29 > 0:29:31# Dona eis
0:29:33 > 0:29:36# Requiem
0:29:37 > 0:29:41# Dona eis
0:29:42 > 0:29:45# Requiem
0:29:47 > 0:29:51# Dona eis
0:29:51 > 0:29:55# Requiem. #
0:30:07 > 0:30:10I don't know about you but I'm beginning to feel quite relaxed
0:30:10 > 0:30:14after my day at Ampleforth but before I go I had to show you this.
0:30:14 > 0:30:18Look at it, the Millennium Cross, isn't it splendid?
0:30:18 > 0:30:21It's on a little hill, just above the abbey
0:30:21 > 0:30:25and it towers over North Yorkshire for miles!
0:30:25 > 0:30:29This cross, four and a half tonnes and 50 foot high,
0:30:29 > 0:30:32is dedicated to the life of the late Cardinal Basil Hume,
0:30:32 > 0:30:36former leader of the Catholic Church in England and Wales.
0:30:36 > 0:30:39The Cardinal lived here in Ampleforth, man and boy,
0:30:39 > 0:30:42eventually becoming the Abbot.
0:30:42 > 0:30:45The cross began life outside Westminster Cathedral, in London,
0:30:45 > 0:30:49where Basil Hume was Archbishop but a few years after his death,
0:30:49 > 0:30:56it was winched by helicopter here, to stand beside his old home.
0:30:56 > 0:30:58- Wow!- Amazing, isn't it?
0:30:58 > 0:31:00Yeah, it's fantastic! It's time for us to get on the road.
0:31:00 > 0:31:03- It is.- I'll drive. - Probably very wise.
0:31:03 > 0:31:06- We've had such a good day at Ampleforth, haven't we?- We have.
0:31:06 > 0:31:09- Hope you've enjoyed it too, bye-bye.- Bye-bye.
0:33:24 > 0:33:28Next week, it's carnival time in Leeds and Pam's there to meet
0:33:28 > 0:33:33some of the participants and explore the city's vibrant cultural life.
0:33:33 > 0:33:36She also introduces soloist Christina Miles
0:33:36 > 0:33:39and there are toe-tapping hymns from our congregation.