0:00:29 > 0:00:32The time is almost 11 minutes past 11.
0:00:33 > 0:00:35At approximately 11:42,
0:00:35 > 0:00:38ten minutes later than published in Radio Times,
0:00:38 > 0:00:41there will be recorded excerpts from today's solemn opening
0:00:41 > 0:00:44of the Roman Catholic Cathedral in Liverpool. Now The Look Of The Week.
0:00:46 > 0:00:48# Buh-buh ptch-ch
0:00:48 > 0:00:50# Buh-buh ptch-ch
0:00:50 > 0:00:53# Buh-buh ptch-ch
0:00:53 > 0:00:55# Buh-buh ptch-ch
0:00:55 > 0:00:57# Buh-buh ptch-ch
0:00:57 > 0:00:59# Buh-buh ptch-ch
0:00:59 > 0:01:02# Buh-buh ptch-ch
0:01:02 > 0:01:04# Buh-buh ptch-ch
0:01:04 > 0:01:06# Woo-woo!
0:01:06 > 0:01:10# Woo-woo-woo-woo-woo
0:01:20 > 0:01:22That sight, those sounds, were made by Pink Floyd,
0:01:22 > 0:01:25a pop group who took over the Queen Elizabeth Hall on Friday night
0:01:25 > 0:01:28for the entertainment they called Games For May.
0:01:28 > 0:01:30Of them, more hereafter.
0:01:30 > 0:01:33Together with an interview with Christopher Isherwood,
0:01:33 > 0:01:35whose new novel, A Meeting By The River,
0:01:35 > 0:01:36is published at the end of the month,
0:01:36 > 0:01:41but first, Dame Laura Knight. The retrospective exhibition of her work
0:01:41 > 0:01:44opens at the Upper Grosvenor Galleries in London next week.
0:01:44 > 0:01:47An assault on the senses, an LSD trip without drugs.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50Flashing strobe lights, colour.
0:01:52 > 0:01:53SONG: "The Golden Road"
0:01:55 > 0:01:58# See that girl, barefootin' along
0:01:58 > 0:02:01# Whistlin' and singin', she's a-carryin' on
0:02:01 > 0:02:04# There's laughing in her eyes, dancing in her feet
0:02:04 > 0:02:08# She's a neon-light diamond, she can live on the street
0:02:08 > 0:02:10# Hey-hey Hey
0:02:10 > 0:02:12# Hey, come right away
0:02:12 > 0:02:14# Come and join the party every day
0:02:14 > 0:02:16# Hey-hey Hey
0:02:16 > 0:02:18# Hey, come right away
0:02:18 > 0:02:22# Come and join the party every day
0:02:22 > 0:02:25# Well, everybody's dancin' in a ring around the sun
0:02:25 > 0:02:28# Nobody's finished, we ain't even begun
0:02:28 > 0:02:31# So take off your shoes, child, and take off your hat
0:02:31 > 0:02:34# Try on your wings and find out where it's at
0:02:34 > 0:02:36# Hey-hey Hey
0:02:36 > 0:02:38# Hey, come right away
0:02:38 > 0:02:41# Come and join the party every day
0:02:41 > 0:02:43# Hey-hey Hey
0:02:43 > 0:02:45# Come right away
0:02:45 > 0:02:47# Come and join the party every day
0:02:47 > 0:02:49# Hey-hey
0:03:08 > 0:03:11# Take a vacation, fall out for a while
0:03:11 > 0:03:14# Summer's comin' in, with us goin' outta style
0:03:14 > 0:03:17# Well, tonight I'm smokin', honey, have yourself a ball
0:03:17 > 0:03:19# Cos your mother's down in Memphis
0:03:19 > 0:03:20# Won't be back till the fall
0:03:20 > 0:03:22# Hey-hey Hey
0:03:22 > 0:03:24# Hey, come right away
0:03:24 > 0:03:27# Come and join the party every day
0:03:27 > 0:03:28# Hey-hey
0:03:28 > 0:03:31# Hey, come right away
0:03:31 > 0:03:33# Come and join the party every day
0:03:33 > 0:03:35# Hey-hey
0:03:35 > 0:03:37# Hey, come right away
0:03:37 > 0:03:40# Come and join the party every day
0:03:40 > 0:03:42# Hey-hey
0:03:42 > 0:03:44# Hey, come right away
0:03:44 > 0:03:46# Come and join the party every day
0:03:46 > 0:03:48# Hey... #
0:03:56 > 0:03:58Do you find you have much sympathy for the pop world today?
0:03:58 > 0:04:01Well, since I met my godson, yes.
0:04:01 > 0:04:04- Your godson is Kit Lambert, manager of The Who.- Yes, yes, yes.
0:04:04 > 0:04:06- The Who.- The Who, yes.
0:04:06 > 0:04:08Who...
0:04:08 > 0:04:10There was a beautiful song called
0:04:10 > 0:04:12# Who takes my heart away... #
0:04:12 > 0:04:16or something, in my young days.
0:04:16 > 0:04:18Do you approve of his activities?
0:04:18 > 0:04:19I don't know what they are.
0:04:25 > 0:04:27SONG: "I Can See For Miles"
0:04:31 > 0:04:36# I know you've deceived me, now here's a surprise
0:04:38 > 0:04:44# I know that you have cos there's magic in my eyes
0:04:44 > 0:04:48# I can see for miles and miles
0:04:48 > 0:04:55# And miles and miles and miles
0:04:55 > 0:04:57# Oh, yeah
0:05:00 > 0:05:05# If you think that I don't know about the little tricks you've played
0:05:07 > 0:05:12# And never see you when deliberately you put things in my way
0:05:13 > 0:05:15# Well, here's a poke at you
0:05:15 > 0:05:17# You're gonna choke on it too
0:05:17 > 0:05:19# You're gonna lose that smile
0:05:19 > 0:05:22# Because all the while
0:05:22 > 0:05:26# I can see for miles and miles
0:05:26 > 0:05:29# I can see for miles and miles
0:05:29 > 0:05:33# I can see for miles and miles
0:05:33 > 0:05:40# And miles and miles and miles
0:05:40 > 0:05:42# Oh, yeah
0:05:45 > 0:05:50# You took advantage of my trust in you when I was so far away
0:05:52 > 0:05:54# I saw you holding lots of other guys
0:05:54 > 0:05:56# And now you've got the nerve to say
0:05:58 > 0:06:00# That you still want me
0:06:00 > 0:06:02# Well, that's as may be
0:06:02 > 0:06:04# But you gotta stand trial
0:06:04 > 0:06:07# Because all the while
0:06:07 > 0:06:11# I can see for miles and miles
0:06:11 > 0:06:14# I can see for miles and miles
0:06:14 > 0:06:18# I can see for miles and miles
0:06:18 > 0:06:25# And miles and miles and miles
0:06:25 > 0:06:27# Oh, yeah
0:06:47 > 0:06:52# I know you've deceived me, now here's a surprise
0:06:54 > 0:07:01# I know that you have cos there's magic in my eyes
0:07:01 > 0:07:04# I can see for miles and miles
0:07:04 > 0:07:11# And miles and miles and miles
0:07:11 > 0:07:14# Oh, yeah
0:07:16 > 0:07:21# The Eiffel Tower and the Taj Mahal are mine to see on clear days
0:07:23 > 0:07:26# You thought that I would need a crystal ball
0:07:26 > 0:07:28# To see right through the haze
0:07:30 > 0:07:31# Well, here's a poke at you
0:07:31 > 0:07:33# You're gonna choke on it too
0:07:33 > 0:07:35# You're gonna lose that smile
0:07:35 > 0:07:38# Because all the while
0:07:38 > 0:07:42# I can see for miles and miles
0:07:42 > 0:07:45# I can see for miles and miles
0:07:45 > 0:07:49# I can see for miles and miles
0:07:49 > 0:07:52# And miles and miles
0:07:52 > 0:07:56# And miles and miles
0:07:56 > 0:07:58# And miles and miles
0:07:58 > 0:08:02# And miles
0:08:05 > 0:08:09# I can see for miles and miles
0:08:09 > 0:08:10# I can see for miles... #
0:08:10 > 0:08:13CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:08:13 > 0:08:14The Pink Floyd.
0:08:14 > 0:08:17You're going to hear them in a minute and I don't want to prejudice you.
0:08:17 > 0:08:21Hear them and see them first and we'll talk about them afterwards,
0:08:21 > 0:08:24but four quick points I want to make before you hear them.
0:08:24 > 0:08:27The first is that what you heard at the beginning, that short bit,
0:08:27 > 0:08:31those few seconds, are really all I can hear in them,
0:08:31 > 0:08:35which is to say to my mind there is continuous repetition
0:08:35 > 0:08:38and proportionately they are a bit boring.
0:08:38 > 0:08:42My second point is that they are terribly loud.
0:08:42 > 0:08:44You couldn't quite hear that because, of course,
0:08:44 > 0:08:47from the sets it isn't as loud as it is here in the studio, and as it was
0:08:47 > 0:08:50in the Festival Hall, in the Queen Elizabeth Hall on Friday.
0:08:50 > 0:08:53I will ask them about that when they come to talk.
0:08:53 > 0:08:56My third point is that perhaps I'm a little bit too much
0:08:56 > 0:08:59of a musician to fully appreciate them,
0:08:59 > 0:09:05and the reason why I say this is that, four, they have an audience,
0:09:05 > 0:09:08and people who have an audience ought to be heard.
0:09:08 > 0:09:11Perhaps it's my fault that I don't appreciate them.
0:09:18 > 0:09:20SONG: "Astronomy Domine"
0:09:40 > 0:09:42# Lime and limpid green, a second scene
0:09:42 > 0:09:45# A fight between the blue you once knew
0:09:47 > 0:09:49# Floating down, the sound resounds
0:09:49 > 0:09:53# Around the icy waters underground
0:09:57 > 0:10:04# Jupiter and Saturn, Oberon, Miranda and Titania
0:10:06 > 0:10:11# Neptune, Titan, Stars can frighten
0:10:11 > 0:10:13# Woo-oo-oo-oo
0:10:13 > 0:10:16# Woo-oo-oo-oo
0:10:16 > 0:10:19# Woo-oo-oo-oo
0:10:19 > 0:10:21# Woo-oo-oo
0:11:54 > 0:11:56# Woo-oo-oo-oo
0:11:56 > 0:11:59# Woo-oo-oo-oo
0:11:59 > 0:12:02# Woo-oo-oo-oo
0:12:02 > 0:12:04# Woo-oo-oo-oo
0:12:16 > 0:12:18# Blinding signs flap
0:12:18 > 0:12:21# Flicker, flicker, flicker, blam
0:12:21 > 0:12:24# Pow! Pow!
0:12:24 > 0:12:27# Stairway scare, Dan Dare
0:12:27 > 0:12:30# Who's there?
0:12:30 > 0:12:32# Woo-oo-oo-oo
0:12:32 > 0:12:34# Woo-oo-oo-oo
0:12:34 > 0:12:37# Woo-oo-oo-oo
0:12:37 > 0:12:40# Woo-oo-oo-oo
0:12:40 > 0:12:44# Lime and limpid green
0:12:44 > 0:12:47# The sound surrounds
0:12:47 > 0:12:52# The icy waters under
0:12:52 > 0:12:55# Lime and limpid green
0:12:55 > 0:12:58# The sounds around
0:12:58 > 0:13:06# The icy waters underground. #
0:13:17 > 0:13:21If I firstly turn to Roger,
0:13:21 > 0:13:23I want to ask one fundamental question,
0:13:23 > 0:13:26of which our tele-viewers may not be quite aware
0:13:26 > 0:13:29the significance of it because they didn't hear all of it.
0:13:29 > 0:13:33Why has it all got to be so terribly loud? For me, frankly, it's too loud.
0:13:33 > 0:13:34I just can't bear...
0:13:34 > 0:13:38I happen to have grown up in the string quartet, which is a bit softer.
0:13:38 > 0:13:41So why has it got to be so loud?
0:13:41 > 0:13:42So amplified.
0:13:42 > 0:13:44Well, I don't guess it has to be, but, I mean,
0:13:44 > 0:13:45that's the way we like it.
0:13:45 > 0:13:47We didn't grow up with a string quartet
0:13:47 > 0:13:50and I guess that could be one of the reasons
0:13:50 > 0:13:53why it is loud. I mean, it doesn't sound terribly loud to us.
0:13:53 > 0:13:57Yes, actually, not everybody who hasn't grown up in a string quartet
0:13:57 > 0:14:01turns into a loud pop group, so your reason is not altogether convincing.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03But I accept that you like it.
0:14:20 > 0:14:23SONG: "With A Little Help From My Friends"
0:15:00 > 0:15:06# What would you do if I sang out of tune
0:15:07 > 0:15:10# Would you stand up and walk out on me
0:15:12 > 0:15:18# Lend me your ears and I'll sing you a song
0:15:19 > 0:15:22# I will try not to sing out of key
0:15:23 > 0:15:24# Oh, baby
0:15:24 > 0:15:28# I get by with a little help from my friends
0:15:28 > 0:15:30# All I need is my buddies
0:15:30 > 0:15:33# I get high with a little help from my friends
0:15:33 > 0:15:35# Oh, say, I'm gonna give it
0:15:35 > 0:15:39# Gonna try with a little help from my friends
0:15:41 > 0:15:45# Ooh
0:15:47 > 0:15:51# Do you need anybody
0:15:53 > 0:15:56# I need someone to love
0:15:58 > 0:16:02# Could it be anybody
0:16:02 > 0:16:06# Oh, I need somebody
0:16:06 > 0:16:08# Don't you know where I'm going, yeah
0:16:09 > 0:16:12# Somebody to
0:16:12 > 0:16:14# Oh, show me
0:16:15 > 0:16:17# Baby
0:16:17 > 0:16:20# I get by with a little help from my friends
0:16:20 > 0:16:21# Ohhh
0:16:21 > 0:16:25# I get high with a little help from my friends
0:16:25 > 0:16:27# Don't you know I'm gonna get
0:16:27 > 0:16:31# Gonna try with a little help from my friends
0:16:31 > 0:16:34# With all of my friends
0:16:38 > 0:16:42# Would you believe in a love at first sight
0:16:44 > 0:16:48# I'm certain it happens all the time
0:16:48 > 0:16:53# What do you see when you turn out the light
0:16:54 > 0:16:59# I can't tell you but it sure feels like mine
0:16:59 > 0:17:02# I get by with a little help from my friends
0:17:02 > 0:17:04# Whoa
0:17:04 > 0:17:08# I get high with a little help from my friends
0:17:08 > 0:17:10# I said I'm gonna make it with my friends
0:17:10 > 0:17:13# Gonna try with a little help from my friends
0:17:24 > 0:17:28# Do you need anybody
0:17:29 > 0:17:33# Aaaahhhh
0:17:33 > 0:17:35# Yeah, yeah, I know
0:17:35 > 0:17:39# Do you need anybody
0:17:39 > 0:17:42# All I need is somebody
0:17:47 > 0:17:49# Somebody, baby
0:17:50 > 0:17:52# Oh, yeah, yeah
0:17:52 > 0:17:55# I get by with a little help from my friends
0:17:58 > 0:18:01# I get high with a little help from my friends
0:18:01 > 0:18:03# Said I'm gonna make it with my friends
0:18:03 > 0:18:06# I get by with a little help from my friends
0:18:06 > 0:18:08# Hey, hey
0:18:12 > 0:18:15# I'm gonna try to do my best with my friends
0:18:17 > 0:18:19# I'm gonna take them all along with me now, yeah
0:18:22 > 0:18:24# I'm gonna make you my friend
0:18:32 > 0:18:34# Oh, I get by with my friends. #
0:18:54 > 0:18:57CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:19:09 > 0:19:12It was reported recently that Bernstein has banned
0:19:12 > 0:19:15the version of his song America as performed by The Nice.
0:19:15 > 0:19:19He's reported to have said that they turned it into an anti-American
0:19:19 > 0:19:21dirge. We asked him if this was true.
0:19:21 > 0:19:24- The Nice? I haven't heard of them. - You haven't heard of them?- No.
0:19:26 > 0:19:27MUSIC: "America"
0:23:04 > 0:23:07America...
0:23:07 > 0:23:11is pregnant with promise and anticipation.
0:23:11 > 0:23:15But is murdered by the hand of the inevitable.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20APPLAUSE
0:23:22 > 0:23:24You don't approve of all this modern music that...?
0:23:24 > 0:23:28Well, of course I do. But it's not very...not modern enough.
0:23:28 > 0:23:31What would you like to see? The Who?
0:23:31 > 0:23:35Well, it's better than what we get from the classical stuff, isn't it?
0:23:35 > 0:23:37I think you're probably right.
0:23:37 > 0:23:40- Sir William Walton, thank you very much. - APPLAUSE
0:23:42 > 0:23:43What are you doing that for?
0:23:48 > 0:23:52This is what I've been kept waiting for the last two hours and a half?
0:23:52 > 0:23:53LAUGHTER
0:23:59 > 0:24:00SONG: "Voodoo Child"
0:24:53 > 0:24:55# Well, I stand up next to a mountain
0:24:56 > 0:24:59# I chop it down with the edge of my hand
0:25:08 > 0:25:10# Well, I stand up next to a mountain
0:25:11 > 0:25:14# I chop it down with the edge of my hand
0:25:17 > 0:25:20# Well, I pick up all the pieces and make an island
0:25:21 > 0:25:23# I might even raise just a little sand
0:25:24 > 0:25:25# Hey, baby
0:25:28 > 0:25:29# Cos I'm a voodoo child, child
0:25:32 > 0:25:34# Lord knows I'm a voodoo child, baby
0:26:30 > 0:26:34# I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time
0:26:34 > 0:26:36# I'll give it right back to you one of these days
0:26:42 > 0:26:46# I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time
0:26:46 > 0:26:49# I'll give it right back one of these days
0:26:53 > 0:26:56# And if I don't see you no more in this world
0:26:56 > 0:26:58# I'll meet you in the next one and don't be late
0:27:00 > 0:27:01# Don't be late
0:27:02 > 0:27:05# Cos I'm a voodoo child, child
0:27:06 > 0:27:09# Lord knows I'm a voodoo child, baby. #
0:27:54 > 0:27:56Well, there it is.
0:27:56 > 0:27:59I think you can pass your verdict as well as I can.
0:27:59 > 0:28:03My verdict is that it is a little bit of a regression to childhood.
0:28:03 > 0:28:05But, after all, why not?
0:28:16 > 0:28:20# Call out the instigator
0:28:20 > 0:28:26# Because there's something in the air
0:28:26 > 0:28:32# We got to get together sooner or later
0:28:32 > 0:28:38# Because the revolution's here And you know it's right
0:28:44 > 0:28:48# And you know that it's right
0:28:49 > 0:28:55# We have got to get it together
0:28:55 > 0:29:00# We have got to get it together now. #