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0:00:26 > 0:00:27- Hello, how are you?

0:00:29 > 0:00:33- Good evening and welcome - to Wyt Ti'n Gem?

0:00:34 > 0:00:38- I've been in Caernarfon so often, - it's feeling like my second home.

0:00:39 > 0:00:44- I must say, I enjoy coming here, - but good grief, it's a long way.

0:00:44 > 0:00:48- There's nothing worse - than driving on the A470.

0:00:48 > 0:00:52- I'd rather referee a soccer match - than drive on the A470.

0:00:54 > 0:00:56- I think I'd rather have a baby...

0:00:57 > 0:00:59- ..than drive on the A470.

0:01:00 > 0:01:06- I'd rather even listen - to an entire John ac Alun CD...

0:01:07 > 0:01:09- No, the A470's not that bad.

0:01:11 > 0:01:16- Are you ready to meet - my first guest this week?

0:01:16 > 0:01:17- Yes.

0:01:18 > 0:01:24- He's the genial presenter - of Stwnsh and Prynhawn Da...

0:01:24 > 0:01:29- ..but he's not always like that - when he's on the rugby pitch.

0:01:29 > 0:01:32- Please welcome Owain Gwynedd.

0:01:44 > 0:01:45- Welcome to the show.

0:01:45 > 0:01:47- Thank you.

0:01:47 > 0:01:50- You're a familiar face - and voice on TV.

0:01:51 > 0:01:54- When did you start - doing voice-overs?

0:01:55 > 0:01:58- It's something - that always needs doing...

0:01:58 > 0:02:03- ..on children's TV, Prynhawn Da, - Heno, rugby, what have you.

0:02:03 > 0:02:06- It means more work - and keeping my career going.

0:02:07 > 0:02:11- It's funny you should mention - more voice-over work.

0:02:12 > 0:02:14- For a familiar face on TV screens...

0:02:15 > 0:02:17- ..a voice-over job - should hold no fears...

0:02:18 > 0:02:22- ..unless our team is in charge - of the recording session.

0:02:22 > 0:02:23- Watch this.

0:02:25 > 0:02:30- This is Owain Gwynedd, - a familiar presenter on S4C.

0:02:32 > 0:02:37- A corporate company has asked Owain - to voice a new film...

0:02:37 > 0:02:39- Thanks for coming in.

0:02:39 > 0:02:43- ..to promote Wales - nationally and internationally.

0:02:44 > 0:02:49- Making such a promo - requires a conscientious director...

0:02:50 > 0:02:53- ..and lots of sound effects.

0:02:53 > 0:02:57- But first, some vocal exercises...

0:02:58 > 0:03:00- ..to enunciate clearly.

0:03:00 > 0:03:01- When you're ready.

0:03:01 > 0:03:02- When you're ready.- - OK.

0:03:03 > 0:03:06- Oer yw'r eira ar Eryri, - rubber baby buggy bumpers.

0:03:07 > 0:03:10- At midday, - Maggie Madog's mad doggie...

0:03:11 > 0:03:13- At midday, - Maggie Madog's moggie...

0:03:14 > 0:03:16- At midday, - Maggie Madog's mad moggie...

0:03:17 > 0:03:23- At midday, Maggie Madog's mad moggie - Meg made Maggie Madog madder.

0:03:24 > 0:03:28- Um, excuse me, - that was just a warm-up.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30- It's time for some proper work.

0:03:30 > 0:03:31- It's time for some proper work.- - OK.

0:03:33 > 0:03:36- My land! My land! - I am true to my land!

0:03:36 > 0:03:40- The land of my fathers and mothers, - my sisters and brothers...

0:03:40 > 0:03:43- ..almost surrounded by the sea.

0:03:44 > 0:03:50- Hinterland, Miss Ogmore Pritchard, - Twin Town and SuperTed.

0:03:50 > 0:03:51- Wales.

0:03:53 > 0:03:54- OK?

0:03:54 > 0:03:56- OK?- - Right, I want you standing now.

0:03:57 > 0:04:00- A better job beats a good job.

0:04:00 > 0:04:05- He needs to live the role - a touch more.

0:04:05 > 0:04:09- Maybe some movement - and sound effects will help.

0:04:09 > 0:04:15- Walking in a cat litter tray - sounds just like a mountain.

0:04:15 > 0:04:19- A lot of gravitas, - and picture the mountain.

0:04:23 > 0:04:26- My land! My land! - I am true to my land!

0:04:27 > 0:04:29- The land of my fathers and mothers.

0:04:30 > 0:04:33- You need Wales. Wales!

0:04:35 > 0:04:36- Wow!

0:04:37 > 0:04:39- From hiking to horse riding.

0:04:43 > 0:04:45- My land! My land! - I am true to my land!

0:04:45 > 0:04:49- The land of my fathers and mothers, - my sisters and brothers...

0:04:50 > 0:04:52- ..almost surrounded by the sea.

0:04:56 > 0:04:59- We need the sound - of someone wading in the sea.

0:05:00 > 0:05:03- I'll bring a steak in, - and tap it in a walking rhythm.

0:05:04 > 0:05:05- A man and a woman.

0:05:16 > 0:05:19- Look who's here.

0:05:20 > 0:05:24- Nigel Pendergrass, - the company's head of marketing.

0:05:25 > 0:05:28- This is Owain Gwynedd, - who's doing the voice-over.

0:05:28 > 0:05:30- I told you, Ioan couldn't do it.

0:05:30 > 0:05:32- That's extremely disappointing.

0:05:33 > 0:05:34- Owain has come in last-minute.

0:05:34 > 0:05:36- Owain has come in last-minute.- - Yes, but I was expecting a star.

0:05:36 > 0:05:39- A Hollywood star, Ioan Gruffudd.

0:05:39 > 0:05:43- Everybody knows him. - They've seen him in the movies.

0:05:43 > 0:05:46- No disrespect, but who is that guy?

0:05:46 > 0:05:48- No disrespect, but who is that guy?- - He's very well-known in Wales.

0:05:49 > 0:05:51- I've never heard of him, I'm sorry.

0:05:51 > 0:05:53- I've never heard of him, I'm sorry.- - Oh dear!

0:05:53 > 0:05:56- Mr Pendergrass isn't happy.

0:05:56 > 0:06:00- But I'm sure Owain - can impersonate Ioan Gruffudd.

0:06:01 > 0:06:04- Or at least speak - in a Southwalian accent, Owain?

0:06:04 > 0:06:05- Shall we go for a take, maybe?

0:06:05 > 0:06:07- Shall we go for a take, maybe?- - Yes, go for a take.

0:06:07 > 0:06:09- Well, let's try, just to see.

0:06:11 > 0:06:13- My land! My land! - I am true to my land!

0:06:14 > 0:06:18- The land of my fathers and mothers, - my sisters and brothers...

0:06:18 > 0:06:20- ..almost surrounded by the sea.

0:06:21 > 0:06:24- I want this to be taken seriously.

0:06:24 > 0:06:26- There's a lot of money - resting on this.

0:06:27 > 0:06:29- An interesting accent, Owain.

0:06:29 > 0:06:31- How about trying - different languages?

0:06:33 > 0:06:38- There are Chinese lines, - and I've got Thai.

0:06:38 > 0:06:40- There's a German one as well.

0:06:41 > 0:06:44- HE SPEAKS CHINESE PHONETICALLY

0:06:46 > 0:06:49- HE SPEAKS THAI PHONETICALLY

0:06:50 > 0:06:52- HE SPEAKS GERMAN

0:06:53 > 0:06:54- Bendiggerdig.

0:06:54 > 0:06:55- Bendiggerdig.- - Bendigedig. Thank you.

0:06:56 > 0:07:01- One thing, Owen, - I would like you to do.

0:07:01 > 0:07:03- Could you do it in an American?

0:07:03 > 0:07:05- Could you do it in an American?- - In an American accent?

0:07:06 > 0:07:08- My land! My land! - I am true to my land!

0:07:08 > 0:07:12- The land of my fathers and mothers, - my sisters and brothers...

0:07:12 > 0:07:14- ..almost surrounded by the sea.

0:07:16 > 0:07:17- You need Wales.

0:07:18 > 0:07:20- Wales!

0:07:21 > 0:07:22- Yeah!

0:07:29 > 0:07:30- Owain Gwynedd, how are you?

0:07:31 > 0:07:32- All those years ago...

0:07:32 > 0:07:35- ..I saw you - refereeing your first match...

0:07:36 > 0:07:39- ..and now you'll be on my sofa - having a chat.

0:07:39 > 0:07:42- You've also proved - you're a good sport.

0:07:42 > 0:07:44- I'll see you soon. Ta-ra.

0:07:46 > 0:07:50- I thought we were in the refs' club, - and here you are pranking me.

0:07:50 > 0:07:53- I'll remember - we're not in the club any more.

0:07:53 > 0:07:55- Thanks, Nige.

0:08:01 > 0:08:02- Thanks.

0:08:03 > 0:08:05- Pleasure.

0:08:05 > 0:08:10- You were a talented ref, and it's - a shame you're not still doing it.

0:08:10 > 0:08:14- You're a gifted presenter too, - but your accents are awful.

0:08:14 > 0:08:16- Didn't you smell a rat at all?

0:08:17 > 0:08:21- When the day came, - I swallowed everything.

0:08:21 > 0:08:24- You go in - and try to be professional.

0:08:24 > 0:08:29- Once I had to slap a steak - and bang coconuts...

0:08:29 > 0:08:31- ..I did hear alarm bells.

0:08:31 > 0:08:35- We mentioned earlier - that you present Stwnsh.

0:08:35 > 0:08:38- How did you - become interested in presenting?

0:08:39 > 0:08:41- I saw an advert for Uned 5.

0:08:41 > 0:08:44- I'd graduated in Law - at Cardiff University.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48- I saw an Uned 5 advert - looking for new presenters.

0:08:48 > 0:08:50- It was a quarter life crisis!

0:08:51 > 0:08:54- The presenters went abroad - and did lots of cool stuff.

0:08:55 > 0:08:57- I applied and got a screen test.

0:08:57 > 0:09:00- I didn't get the job, - but I knew it was the career for me.

0:09:01 > 0:09:05- You have interviewed - a lot of famous people.

0:09:05 > 0:09:08- Some of the most famous names - anywhere in the world.

0:09:09 > 0:09:15- The highlight for me, probably, - was the 2015 Rugby World Cup.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17- That's my claim to fame.

0:09:17 > 0:09:23- Dan Carter, probably the best player - in the world over recent years...

0:09:23 > 0:09:26- ..and Richie McCaw, - All Black greats...

0:09:26 > 0:09:30- ..were ending their careers - and playing in their last World Cup.

0:09:30 > 0:09:36- Apparently, I was the first - to interview them on TV afterwards.

0:09:36 > 0:09:39- Not unexpectedly, - they had no clue who I was.

0:09:40 > 0:09:41- It was hello, how are you, OK?

0:09:42 > 0:09:43- I told them.

0:09:44 > 0:09:47- Dan, Richie, that's Owain, - one of my friends from Wales.

0:09:47 > 0:09:49- Please have a word with him.

0:09:49 > 0:09:52- That's how they were - when you made the right calls!

0:09:53 > 0:09:57- It's nice to have your company, - and thanks for being a good sport.

0:10:04 > 0:10:07- Don't go far - or you'll miss my next guest...

0:10:07 > 0:10:10- ..having a meal she'll never forget.

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0:10:19 > 0:10:19- Subtitles

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0:10:28 > 0:10:33- Some say that the best thing - about Anglesey is the view of Arfon.

0:10:33 > 0:10:37- But I think it's the choir conductor - who has won more trophies...

0:10:37 > 0:10:40- ..than every North Wales - rugby club put together.

0:10:43 > 0:10:47- Please welcome the rose - from Rhosmeirch, Mari Pritchard.

0:11:01 > 0:11:02- You're very popular, Mari.

0:11:02 > 0:11:03- You're very popular, Mari.- - If you say so.

0:11:03 > 0:11:07- I understand - that you conduct several choirs.

0:11:07 > 0:11:09- Yes, by now.

0:11:09 > 0:11:10- How many?

0:11:10 > 0:11:14- The Anglesey Youth Choir - is now three choirs.

0:11:14 > 0:11:17- You also like eating out, I hear.

0:11:17 > 0:11:20- Yes, when the food's right.

0:11:20 > 0:11:22- When the food's right.

0:11:22 > 0:11:27- This is what happened when a meal - turned into a war of words.

0:11:30 > 0:11:33- This is Mari Pritchard, - a successful conductor...

0:11:34 > 0:11:37- ..and winner of this year's - Choir of the Eisteddfod.

0:11:37 > 0:11:42- Mari and her sister Rhian - are going for a quiet meal...

0:11:42 > 0:11:45- ..at a new restaurant near Bangor.

0:11:45 > 0:11:49- But with a short-tempered manager...

0:11:50 > 0:11:52- ..an eccentric sommelier...

0:11:53 > 0:11:59- ..and a bad chef, it might not be - that quiet a meal for them both.

0:12:02 > 0:12:07- We're trying something different, - that's popular on the Continent.

0:12:07 > 0:12:09- I'm your sommelier.

0:12:09 > 0:12:14- I'll look at your choice of tapas...

0:12:14 > 0:12:17- ..then choose the wine - that best suits the food.

0:12:17 > 0:12:19- Does that sound respectable?

0:12:19 > 0:12:22- Does that sound respectable?- - As long as it's not Viognier.

0:12:24 > 0:12:26- Do they do that on the Continent?

0:12:26 > 0:12:27- Don't worry.

0:12:28 > 0:12:31- Our sommelier - has been trained by the best.

0:12:31 > 0:12:35- He knows his Chablis - from his Chardonnay.

0:12:37 > 0:12:40- If you'd just try this for me...

0:12:40 > 0:12:42- I know I'll like it.

0:12:43 > 0:12:45- I've drunk so much Sauvignon...

0:12:45 > 0:12:46- I've drunk so much Sauvignon...- - Whoa, whoa, whoa!

0:12:46 > 0:12:47- Don't rush.

0:12:47 > 0:12:50- Too much haste spoils the evening!

0:12:52 > 0:12:55- Just savour it, come on.

0:12:57 > 0:12:59- I have.

0:13:00 > 0:13:04- There's a touch - of mountain vegetation, liquorice...

0:13:04 > 0:13:06- ..and the merest hint of...

0:13:06 > 0:13:07- ..and the merest hint of...- - That's very nice.

0:13:08 > 0:13:12- So, a glass each? - I knew I was right.

0:13:12 > 0:13:13- OK, I won't be long.

0:13:16 > 0:13:21- As you like the wine so much, - you'd better have a large glass.

0:13:21 > 0:13:22- Iechyd da!

0:13:24 > 0:13:27- You'll need - every drop of that wine...

0:13:27 > 0:13:32- ..to wash down the soup, - which has been liberally seasoned.

0:13:34 > 0:13:36- Thank you!

0:13:36 > 0:13:38- Wow! Nice.

0:13:54 > 0:13:56- Oh my God!

0:13:57 > 0:13:58- What's wrong?

0:13:59 > 0:14:00- It's horrible.

0:14:04 > 0:14:06- There must be half a pot of salt.

0:14:07 > 0:14:08- I can't eat that.

0:14:09 > 0:14:13- Sorry, the soup is awfully salty.

0:14:13 > 0:14:15- Have you put too much salt in it?

0:14:15 > 0:14:17- I haven't put any salt in it.

0:14:17 > 0:14:19- Can I taste it?

0:14:25 > 0:14:27- Someone's put too much salt in it.

0:14:27 > 0:14:28- Someone's put too much salt in it.- - The chef, I'd say.

0:14:29 > 0:14:31- Try balancing it with pepper.

0:14:31 > 0:14:32- Try balancing it with pepper.- - I can't eat it.

0:14:32 > 0:14:35- It's giving me heartburn already.

0:14:35 > 0:14:37- It's giving me heartburn already.- - I'll get you another one.

0:14:38 > 0:14:42- I wonder how the chef - will handle the complaint?

0:14:43 > 0:14:47- For God's sake, how many times?

0:14:47 > 0:14:49- Don't put so much salt in the soup.

0:14:49 > 0:14:52- Did you offer ketchup or mayonnaise?

0:14:52 > 0:14:55- Did you offer ketchup or mayonnaise?- - Ketchup and mayonnaise indeed.

0:14:56 > 0:14:58- Make some more, properly this time.

0:14:58 > 0:14:59- Make some more, properly this time.- - OK, boss.

0:15:00 > 0:15:03- # Happy birthday to you #

0:15:04 > 0:15:08- Just when you think - things can't get any worse...

0:15:08 > 0:15:09- ..they do.

0:15:09 > 0:15:13- ..they do.- - # Happy birthday to Melanie

0:15:13 > 0:15:17- # Happy birthday to you #

0:15:17 > 0:15:18- Hip hip.

0:15:20 > 0:15:21- It's this table.

0:15:21 > 0:15:23- Not me. It's OK.

0:15:23 > 0:15:24- Not me. It's OK.- - Sorry, sorry, sorry.

0:15:24 > 0:15:29- # Happy birthday to you #

0:15:30 > 0:15:33- Where's the rest of the bottle?!

0:15:34 > 0:15:39- Oh dear! Never mind, - the chef has made some fresh soup.

0:15:43 > 0:15:44- Is that better?

0:15:45 > 0:15:46- Is it still salty?

0:15:46 > 0:15:47- It's still salty.

0:15:48 > 0:15:50- Still salty!

0:15:50 > 0:15:52- No, don't make a fuss.

0:15:53 > 0:15:55- I'm fed up with this, chef.

0:15:56 > 0:15:58- What's wrong now?

0:15:58 > 0:16:00- What's wrong now?- - You've had your chances. It's salty.

0:16:00 > 0:16:05- You're sacked. Sacked. Sacked.

0:16:06 > 0:16:07- You can't sack me!

0:16:07 > 0:16:08- You can't sack me!- - Yes, I can.

0:16:09 > 0:16:10- Get out, please. Off you go!

0:16:10 > 0:16:12- Who complained?

0:16:13 > 0:16:14- Was it you?

0:16:14 > 0:16:15- What's wrong with the soup?

0:16:15 > 0:16:16- What's wrong with the soup?- - Leave it out.

0:16:17 > 0:16:18- It's too salty.

0:16:19 > 0:16:20- I didn't put salt in it.

0:16:20 > 0:16:22- I didn't put salt in it.- - There was half a pot in it!

0:16:22 > 0:16:26- It was a sprinkle. - Seriously, I've had so much hassle.

0:16:26 > 0:16:27- Have you tasted it?

0:16:27 > 0:16:28- Have you tasted it?- - I tried it myself.

0:16:28 > 0:16:32- Unbelievable. I've been sacked. - I've got children at home!

0:16:32 > 0:16:36- Give me strength, - people are always complaining...

0:16:36 > 0:16:38- I'm not staying here.

0:16:41 > 0:16:42- Sorry.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47- I've brought my sister - out for a meal.

0:16:47 > 0:16:48- I selected this place.

0:16:49 > 0:16:51- I'd heard good comments about you.

0:16:51 > 0:16:53- Can you give us some feedback?

0:16:54 > 0:16:56- Mari Pritchard, how are you?

0:16:56 > 0:16:58- Nigel Owens here.

0:16:58 > 0:17:02- I hope you enjoyed your meal, - and didn't have too much wine.

0:17:02 > 0:17:05- Thanks for being a good sport.

0:17:05 > 0:17:07- I'll see you in the studio.

0:17:22 > 0:17:24- You rascal! I'll get you back.

0:17:42 > 0:17:43- Hilarious!

0:17:43 > 0:17:46- I was shaking for about two hours!

0:17:46 > 0:17:51- We had a proper meal afterwards, - but I couldn't eat anything!

0:17:51 > 0:17:53- Are you an awkward customer?

0:17:53 > 0:17:56- Are you an awkward customer?- - I know in the first ten minutes.

0:17:56 > 0:18:00- When the chap came - and said he was our sommelier...

0:18:00 > 0:18:03- ..his shirt wasn't even ironed.

0:18:03 > 0:18:07- What were you thinking - when the chef was sacked?

0:18:07 > 0:18:10- When he came out, - I thought, here we go.

0:18:10 > 0:18:13- I'd wanted to leave - since the first soup arrived.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17- You run the Anglesey Youth Choir.

0:18:17 > 0:18:19- You run the Anglesey Youth Choir.- - There are three youth choirs.

0:18:20 > 0:18:23- One for under 12s, - one for under 17s...

0:18:23 > 0:18:26- ..and one for 17s and up, Coda.

0:18:26 > 0:18:29- How many members, in all?

0:18:29 > 0:18:32- The youth choir - has over 120 in total.

0:18:32 > 0:18:37- The chair of the youth choir - travels across the country with you.

0:18:38 > 0:18:40- Where are you, Llinos?

0:18:41 > 0:18:42- Hello!

0:18:43 > 0:18:46- How important is Mari to the choir?

0:18:46 > 0:18:50- What makes her such a popular - and successful conductor?

0:18:51 > 0:18:53- She's likeable, she's lively.

0:18:55 > 0:19:00- She's talented, - and a friend to us all.

0:19:01 > 0:19:05- The members, the parents - the committee, everyone involved.

0:19:05 > 0:19:07- She's so pleasant...

0:19:07 > 0:19:11- ..and everyone in the choir - respects each other.

0:19:12 > 0:19:17- That's why the choir is a success - and why it's growing even stronger.

0:19:18 > 0:19:19- Llinos, thank you.

0:19:27 > 0:19:31- You fully deserve - the award we're giving you.

0:19:32 > 0:19:35- It's only a little thank you...

0:19:35 > 0:19:40- ..for the opportunities you've given - the young people with the choirs.

0:19:41 > 0:19:45- I'll ask Owain, - who's also keen to join the choir...

0:19:45 > 0:19:47- ..to present the award to you.

0:19:48 > 0:19:49- Many congratulations.

0:19:56 > 0:19:58- Are you a bass or a tenor?

0:19:58 > 0:19:59- Are you a bass or a tenor?- - I don't know yet!

0:20:07 > 0:20:12- As you know, we like - issuing challenges to our guests.

0:20:12 > 0:20:16- Owain, we know you like - doing voice-overs, or trying to.

0:20:17 > 0:20:19- Mari, we never hear your voice.

0:20:19 > 0:20:21- If you're game, we'll play a game.

0:20:28 > 0:20:29- It's quite simple.

0:20:30 > 0:20:34- All you have to do - is voice a video...

0:20:34 > 0:20:38- ..featuring a very special person.

0:20:38 > 0:20:40- Owain, you go first. Ready?

0:20:41 > 0:20:42- Off we go.

0:20:43 > 0:20:45- Nigel Owens.

0:20:45 > 0:20:51- Decades ago in a remote village, - a boy was born who's now a man.

0:20:51 > 0:20:56- Cometh the day, cometh the hour.

0:20:56 > 0:21:01- Cometh the referee, - the games, the decisions.

0:21:02 > 0:21:04- The sayings.

0:21:04 > 0:21:06- This is not soccer.

0:21:12 > 0:21:16- Nigel Owens in the Gorsedd, - Nigel Owens with the MBE.

0:21:18 > 0:21:20- Nigel Owens in a silly hat.

0:21:20 > 0:21:22- Doctorate, thank you!

0:21:22 > 0:21:25- Doctorate, thank you!- - Nigel Owens and his talent.

0:21:25 > 0:21:30- The giant from Mynydd Cerrig, - a Welshman to the core.

0:21:31 > 0:21:35- Nigel, we love you.

0:21:38 > 0:21:40- Hopeless.

0:21:40 > 0:21:41- Hopeless!

0:21:48 > 0:21:54- I didn't understand half of that. - Audience, who did the best job?

0:21:54 > 0:21:58- To vote Owain Gwynedd, clap now.

0:22:05 > 0:22:07- To vote Mari Pritchard...

0:22:15 > 0:22:17- Mari, you're the winner.

0:22:18 > 0:22:20- Owain Gwynedd, this is for you.

0:22:22 > 0:22:24- That's all for this series.

0:22:24 > 0:22:29- Thanks to my guests, - Owain Gwynedd and Mari Pritchard.

0:22:29 > 0:22:33- Thanks for the welcome - here in Caernarfon...

0:22:33 > 0:22:35- ..and to you at home for watching.

0:22:36 > 0:22:39- Look out, in case I check - whether or not you're a good sport.

0:22:40 > 0:22:41- Goodnight.

0:23:06 > 0:23:08- S4C Subtitles by Testun Cyf.

0:23:08 > 0:23:09- .