:00:07. > :00:14.The President promised this would be a big day for US National security.
:00:15. > :00:17.And good to his word, Donald Trump is pressing ahead
:00:18. > :00:26.with plans to tighten the borders of the United States.
:00:27. > :00:37.We're going to build a wall. We have to build a wall. And he promises
:00:38. > :00:41.Mexico will pay for the ball eventually. There will be a payment,
:00:42. > :00:45.it will be in perhaps the complicated form and you have to
:00:46. > :00:48.understand what I'm doing is good for the US and also good for Mexico.
:00:49. > :00:51.It's reported the President will also ask for a review
:00:52. > :00:52.of the way terrorist suspects are interrogated.
:00:53. > :01:00.We'll hear from the CIA Director who closed the black site prisons.
:01:01. > :01:05.It would be a mistake to go back to that and could be damaging in terms
:01:06. > :01:06.of our image to the rest of the world.
:01:07. > :01:09.In other news, some have dismissed as a distraction but the president
:01:10. > :01:13.He is ordering a major investigation into voter fraud,
:01:14. > :01:15.still convinced that illegal votes affected the election result.
:01:16. > :01:18.And gun violence in Chicago - the President says he is considering
:01:19. > :01:22.sending in the Feds - would it help?
:01:23. > :01:36.Hello it is Wednesday afternoon here in Washington,
:01:37. > :01:40.Donald Trump has promised a "big day" in the reform of America's
:01:41. > :01:44.The President is outlining changes to immigration, visa controls,
:01:45. > :01:49.and a crack down on gun violence in Chicago.
:01:50. > :01:53.And of course there is the promise, which he made throughout
:01:54. > :02:01.that election campaign, to build that wall.
:02:02. > :02:03.He's also given his first TV interview as President,
:02:04. > :02:13.here is what he said about that Wall to ABC News...
:02:14. > :02:18.Ultimately we will start negotiations relatively soon with
:02:19. > :02:25.Mexico and we will be reimbursed by Mexico. So the American taxpayer
:02:26. > :02:30.will pay for the ball first. We will be reimbursed at a later date from
:02:31. > :02:35.whatever transaction we make from Mexico. The Mexican president said
:02:36. > :02:42.Mexico will not pay and added it goes against their dignity as a
:02:43. > :02:47.country and as Mexicans. He has to say that. I'm just telling you,
:02:48. > :02:51.there will be a payment, it will be perhaps in a complicated form, and
:02:52. > :02:57.you have to understand what I'm doing is good for the US and also
:02:58. > :03:01.good for Mexico. We want a stable and solid Mexico. When does
:03:02. > :03:06.construction begin. As soon as we can physically do it. Within months?
:03:07. > :03:07.I would say within months and certainly planning is starting
:03:08. > :03:17.immediately. Our North America editor
:03:18. > :03:28.Jon Sopel is here. He needs to be seen to be moving on
:03:29. > :03:34.this issue? It was the signature mark of his campaign and whichever
:03:35. > :03:38.rally Kuwait to it was, build a wall. Then he would ask who is going
:03:39. > :03:45.to pay and the crowd would say, Mexico. Except of course initially
:03:46. > :03:49.it will be the US taxpayer. Possibly Mexico, maybe. Because of course the
:03:50. > :03:53.US taxpayer is going to fund this. He is saying there will be some
:03:54. > :03:58.payment, it will be complicated. What does any of that mean. He has
:03:59. > :04:02.got to get going on it but quite what is going to be because during
:04:03. > :04:07.the campaign will lead to the it would be a 20 foot high wall
:04:08. > :04:11.stretching 2000 miles. I do not think he is quite envisaging that
:04:12. > :04:16.corrupt part of it will be offence, part of that reinforced wall, not
:04:17. > :04:20.quite all but it seems. Maybe that is something got used to when
:04:21. > :04:29.dealing with Donald Trump. He starts from one position, we end up up
:04:30. > :04:32.somewhere else. There's the issue of whether the president wants to
:04:33. > :04:38.review the American policy on black site prisons and interrogation
:04:39. > :04:44.techniques. Two or three hours ago I felt I was reliving an episode of
:04:45. > :04:48.Homeland. Extraordinary rendition. Water boarding, black sites. All the
:04:49. > :04:56.rest of it, enhanced interrogation techniques. He left it open in the
:04:57. > :05:00.ABC interview and throughout the campaign. He said he would do
:05:01. > :05:06.tougher stuff than water boarding. So it came to the White House
:05:07. > :05:12.briefing, which ended 30 minutes ago and the President's spokesman Sean
:05:13. > :05:15.Spicer was asked about it. Can you shed light on the draft memo going
:05:16. > :05:25.around about interrogation practices. It is not the White House
:05:26. > :05:29.document. Those who have reported on it, I think this is the second day
:05:30. > :05:34.we had a document that was not a White House document reported on as
:05:35. > :05:39.a factual document. I have no idea where it came from. But it is not a
:05:40. > :05:48.White House document. Does that clear it up? I would have thought if
:05:49. > :05:52.it was complete baloney, he would have had huge joy in saying it is
:05:53. > :05:56.complete baloney. Instead of which he said it is not a White House
:05:57. > :06:00.document, to my knowledge the president has not seen it. So I
:06:01. > :06:05.think there is an area of ambiguity is still in there somewhere. It
:06:06. > :06:09.clearly is not about to be an executive order that is going to be
:06:10. > :06:14.signed tomorrow. But if you read the document there has been a lot of
:06:15. > :06:17.careful work gone into drafting it, what it would mean, what it would
:06:18. > :06:23.not mean, changes to the army manual. So perhaps it is something
:06:24. > :06:26.on the back burner but not the full force, White House document,
:06:27. > :06:31.publication tomorrow or the day after. Yesterday we spoke about
:06:32. > :06:34.special advisers Stephen Bannon who of course was critical of the Obama
:06:35. > :06:40.attitude towards tackling terror. But we heard from the Defence
:06:41. > :06:45.Secretary James Mathis who has a more relaxed view on this. So is
:06:46. > :06:49.there going to be tension? I think there is tension between the
:06:50. > :06:56.populists and the old guard, I think there are tensions between radicals
:06:57. > :06:59.and more traditionally conservative elements. James Mathis the Defence
:07:00. > :07:04.Secretary thought he had convinced Donald Trump that actually the whole
:07:05. > :07:08.issue of torture, forget the human rights aspect of it, he says it is
:07:09. > :07:12.simply not working. Much better to give someone you are interrogating a
:07:13. > :07:16.couple of beers and the cigarette than to start trying to water board
:07:17. > :07:20.them and hope you will get information that way. So it seems
:07:21. > :07:25.there is a tension within the administration, but not a White
:07:26. > :07:30.House document according to Sean Spicer. And has been more news,
:07:31. > :07:34.about the voter fraud issue. President Trump tweeting again about
:07:35. > :07:39.this issue. We spoke of it yesterday. Is it now becoming a
:07:40. > :07:44.political tool with which the president and the Supreme Court will
:07:45. > :07:49.be able to look at voting rights issues in America? That is leaping a
:07:50. > :07:53.lot of logical steps down the way but not unreasonable. Let's hear
:07:54. > :07:58.what the critical voices are saying. It is simple, he is the thin skinned
:07:59. > :08:02.narcissist and cannot accept that he lost the popular vote to Hillary
:08:03. > :08:06.Clinton, all driven by that. But other people, what happens if there
:08:07. > :08:10.is a review and it does not come up with the conclusion saying there was
:08:11. > :08:13.voter fraud but there is to eliminate any perception that there
:08:14. > :08:18.is voter fraud, in future elections there should be people having to
:08:19. > :08:22.produce identity before they are able to vote. That could have the
:08:23. > :08:24.effect of suppressing voter turnout especially amongst poor
:08:25. > :08:30.African-American communities, who are most likely to vote Democrat.
:08:31. > :08:41.That story is dominating American media this morning. Let's get
:08:42. > :08:52.reaction from former Republican governor of Virginia Jim Gilmore.
:08:53. > :08:56.You trained on the Arizona border before you went to work in US
:08:57. > :09:01.intelligence in Europe. Do you think it is actually possible to build
:09:02. > :09:06.this wall, 1900 miles long, along the US, Mexican border? It is pretty
:09:07. > :09:13.long and when I was their training as an intelligence agent there is a
:09:14. > :09:17.lot of vast desert space. The thrust of what the president is saying is
:09:18. > :09:20.that the days of open borders are over, we must be able to control our
:09:21. > :09:25.borders and that means he's going to build a wall, at least some barrier,
:09:26. > :09:30.across the southern border of the US. It is going to control people
:09:31. > :09:35.just walking across the border either with drugs or dangerous
:09:36. > :09:40.situations and that is built thrust of what the President is saying.
:09:41. > :09:42.Technically where the bricks go, where those monitors go, that will
:09:43. > :09:47.be left to the Department of Homeland Security. And what about
:09:48. > :09:53.reimbursement, we heard President Trump saying there will be initially
:09:54. > :09:57.American taxpayers paying for this and then they will get reimbursed by
:09:58. > :10:02.the Mexicans. How is that going to work in practice, how do we know the
:10:03. > :10:09.Mexicans had said they're not going to pay for this, are going to say
:10:10. > :10:12.fine, we will do so? Well first I would say this, the Mexican
:10:13. > :10:16.government needs to understand it has an obligation to control its
:10:17. > :10:19.side of the border and prevent people who are dangerous to the
:10:20. > :10:24.United States from simply walking across the border. They're not doing
:10:25. > :10:28.that. They do nothing to protect their neighbour to the north.
:10:29. > :10:33.Therefore we have an obligation to the American people to protect
:10:34. > :10:36.ourselves up as far as how that is financially going to be handled, the
:10:37. > :10:39.with our Mexican labourers on trade with our Mexican labourers on trade
:10:40. > :10:45.issues and a variety of other issues and I'm sure there will be some
:10:46. > :10:48.horse trading and swapping going on to make sure the American people are
:10:49. > :10:53.protected as they protect themselves. I spent a lot of time in
:10:54. > :10:58.the last year on the borders in Europe, we had a migrant crisis for
:10:59. > :11:02.some time and there is evidence that fences do work. Looking at Hungary
:11:03. > :11:05.and Bulgaria, migrants have been directed around those countries and
:11:06. > :11:09.perhaps those governments would say they do work. But you will know all
:11:10. > :11:13.it really does is to channel people through a different direction and
:11:14. > :11:20.people take more risks to get to where they want to go. It happens
:11:21. > :11:24.but the alternative is simply not to have any kind of border control of
:11:25. > :11:28.any kind. No winning you -- in Europe should really be doing that.
:11:29. > :11:31.For the UK part of the impetus towards Brexit was to make sure they
:11:32. > :11:36.had control of their own borders and did not have to live in a regime
:11:37. > :11:40.where they had to accept anyone from within the EU willy-nilly. So
:11:41. > :11:44.because of the Middle East crisis and the terrorist war weary and
:11:45. > :11:47.internationally, there is much more of a move now for civilised
:11:48. > :11:52.countries to begin to force more protections on behalf of their own
:11:53. > :11:57.people. So fences can at least bring some control and make a focus on who
:11:58. > :12:08.is going where and give us a better handle on movement of people. Thank
:12:09. > :12:12.you. And we will of course bring pictures from the Department of
:12:13. > :12:14.Homeland Security word Donald Trump is currently, as soon as we get
:12:15. > :12:30.anything from that. Well there is speculation about the
:12:31. > :12:42.reopening of black sites centres. And of course Christian it comes
:12:43. > :12:45.at a time when the President's relationship with the intelligence
:12:46. > :12:47.community is already The president's feud with the US
:12:48. > :12:50.intelligence services began before He dismissed the need for a daily
:12:51. > :12:53.intelligence briefing, He attacked a report by intelligence
:12:54. > :12:57.agencies that said Russian hackers meddled in the US election
:12:58. > :13:00.with the aim of getting He wrongly accused US intelligence
:13:01. > :13:03.of leaking and unverified dossier that alleged the Russians had
:13:04. > :13:05.compromising material on him, and then in a tweet,
:13:06. > :13:08.he compared the same intelligence The very first day after his
:13:09. > :13:17.inauguration, Mr Trump went to Langley in a bid to make amends
:13:18. > :13:22.with the CIA. I want to say that there
:13:23. > :13:25.is nobody that feels stronger about the intelligence community
:13:26. > :13:27.and the CIA than Donald Trump. But even that visit
:13:28. > :13:36.didn't go so well. Mr Trump used the occasion to brag
:13:37. > :13:39.about his victory and complain about the press coverage
:13:40. > :13:44.of the inauguration. John Brennan, the man who led
:13:45. > :13:48.the CIA until resigning last week, called it a despicable
:13:49. > :13:53.display of self-aggrandisement. It is not unheard of for the White
:13:54. > :13:56.House to have a confrontational After all, sometimes a president
:13:57. > :14:05.might want to do something for his own political reasons that
:14:06. > :14:07.doesn't really work And that has caused
:14:08. > :14:09.inherent tensions. President Bush clashed repeatedly
:14:10. > :14:13.with the agency over Iraq. Once dismissing a report on the
:14:14. > :14:17.course of the war as just guessing. One of his most controversial
:14:18. > :14:19.decisions was the sanctioning of so-called black sites,
:14:20. > :14:21.secret overseas CIA President Obama ended
:14:22. > :14:28.the practice in 2009. Now according to US media, Mr Trump
:14:29. > :14:30.is reviewing both that decision I've been speaking to Leon Panetta
:14:31. > :14:44.who served as both head of the CIA and later the Defense Department
:14:45. > :15:00.under President Obama In 2009 as director of the CIA you
:15:01. > :15:05.gave the water to the agency to close the Black sites prisons. Mr
:15:06. > :15:10.Trump is now reportedly reviewing those black sites and enhanced
:15:11. > :15:14.interrogation techniques or torture, if you call it that. Do you think
:15:15. > :15:22.that would be good for national security in America? I think it
:15:23. > :15:28.would be a serious mistake to take a backward step on those issues. The
:15:29. > :15:32.reality is we do not really need black sites, we do not need to use
:15:33. > :15:39.enhanced interrogation in order to get the information that is
:15:40. > :15:43.required. General matters believes that, I think others in the
:15:44. > :15:47.intelligence business believe that. The FBI believe that. So I think it
:15:48. > :15:51.would be a mistake to go back to that and I think it could be
:15:52. > :15:56.damaging in terms of our image to the rest of the world. In an
:15:57. > :16:00.interview with ABC News Mr Trump appears to have said that whilst he
:16:01. > :16:04.was surprised that the new Defence Secretary does not think that
:16:05. > :16:08.enhanced interrogation techniques, torture, work, he has spoken to
:16:09. > :16:13.people in the intelligence community in the past 24 hours who have a
:16:14. > :16:15.different opinion and he's very much living it on the table. What you
:16:16. > :16:27.make of these differences of opinion? It is hard to know what
:16:28. > :16:31.exactly is going on. Within the mind of the president right now. He has
:16:32. > :16:40.talked about going back to torture, but I think a lot of people regard
:16:41. > :16:45.that as not only a violation of our values in this country but a
:16:46. > :16:50.violation of the constitution. So I think it would be a mistake in fact
:16:51. > :16:58.to even raise the possibility that we would go back to those methods.
:16:59. > :17:03.The reality is that we have been successful at being able to get the
:17:04. > :17:09.intelligence that we need in order to protect this country. We have not
:17:10. > :17:12.had another attack since September the 11th. We have been able to
:17:13. > :17:18.protect this country and do what is necessary in order to deal with
:17:19. > :17:23.terrorism. And we can do it not only in ways that protect our security,
:17:24. > :17:25.but that also protect our values. Even you yourself have the time
:17:26. > :17:31.suggested some of the information that America has got on planned
:17:32. > :17:35.terrorist activities came from these methods of interrogation. You have
:17:36. > :17:43.left that door open yourself, that some of these methods may work? The
:17:44. > :17:46.reality is that in the process of conducting some of these
:17:47. > :17:52.interrogations there is no question that information was produced, how
:17:53. > :17:57.valuable it was, how much of an impact it had, whether we could get
:17:58. > :18:03.from other sources, is a question. My view is when President Obama in
:18:04. > :18:09.his executive order said we would not continue enhanced procedures,
:18:10. > :18:13.that we would not engage in torture, that that was a very important step
:18:14. > :18:17.for this country to take. Because it was a symbol to the rest of the
:18:18. > :18:22.world that we're going to adhere to our values and to what we believe in
:18:23. > :18:27.and so I think that is the proper course for the United States to take
:18:28. > :18:32.it up to go back on that, to resurrect all those procedures
:18:33. > :18:35.again, I think would be damaging not only to our image in the world, I do
:18:36. > :18:42.not think it would be effective in terms of our ability to protect the
:18:43. > :18:46.security of our country. You raised the constitutionality of this
:18:47. > :18:53.process, Senator McCain said this morning that the law is the law.
:18:54. > :18:57.What position would this put CIA officers in potentially, if the
:18:58. > :19:11.president were to ask them to use these techniques? We are going back
:19:12. > :19:18.to a process that we went through in the period after September the 11th.
:19:19. > :19:23.And in order to justify what they would do, they would need to have a
:19:24. > :19:29.legal opinion from the Justice Department that in fact came to the
:19:30. > :19:33.conclusion that is doing these kinds of procedures would be
:19:34. > :19:39.constitutional and would be legal. If that does not happen, there's no
:19:40. > :19:42.way in the world that an intelligence officer is going to
:19:43. > :19:47.proceed with those procedures knowing that it could violate our
:19:48. > :19:51.law. It is just not going to happen. But you know what lawyers are like
:19:52. > :19:54.and presumably if you want to find a lawyer who says this is
:19:55. > :20:04.constitutional, President Trump would do that. It is not that simple
:20:05. > :20:10.to say that if you can find a lawyer in some basement who can come to
:20:11. > :20:14.that conclusion, that that would be sufficient for the CIA and other
:20:15. > :20:19.intelligence agencies to act upon. The reality is this would have to be
:20:20. > :20:23.an opinion that a number of lawyers at the Justice Department would have
:20:24. > :20:27.to agree to. The Attorney General would have to agree to. And I think
:20:28. > :20:33.legal scholars in this country would have to look at it and make a
:20:34. > :20:37.determination whether it is a valid opinion or not. So there are a lot
:20:38. > :20:43.of steps that would have to be taken before any of this would be put into
:20:44. > :20:50.action. Are you worried about the direction in which Donald Trump is
:20:51. > :20:57.taking the United States? I worry that the president needs to
:20:58. > :21:01.understand that as president of the United States he should stay focused
:21:02. > :21:07.on the most important issue which is protecting our country. And
:21:08. > :21:13.protecting our values as a country. I think it is a little dangerous
:21:14. > :21:19.when he starts to imply that we're going to things that we have
:21:20. > :21:26.recognised where wrong steps to take in the past. And to suddenly engage
:21:27. > :21:29.in that kind of controversy when we have to deal with threats in the
:21:30. > :21:34.world, we have to deal with terrorism, we have to deal with
:21:35. > :21:40.Russia, with China, with North Korea, with cyber attacks, there are
:21:41. > :21:46.a lot of threats facing the United States. It seems to me to be a huge
:21:47. > :21:50.waste of time to divert attention to some of this effort is talking about
:21:51. > :21:54.when frankly his attention ought to be devoted to how do we counter our
:21:55. > :22:01.adversaries in the world. Thank you very much for joining us. He said it
:22:02. > :22:06.would be a mistake to go back on some of the things appearing in this
:22:07. > :22:09.report today. And very damaging to the United States image. I would
:22:10. > :22:14.think a lot of people in Europe are nervous about the idea of rendition
:22:15. > :22:19.again and these black cop sites around the world. This is going to
:22:20. > :22:24.be controversial if indeed President Trump really is thinking of reviving
:22:25. > :22:30.either the black sites or enhanced interrogation techniques. You heard
:22:31. > :22:34.Mr Panetta there, and there is a big split in the administration because
:22:35. > :22:40.you have the new director of the CIA Mike Pompeo and the Secretary of
:22:41. > :22:43.they do not think torture works and they do not think torture works and
:22:44. > :22:49.this is the way America should go. So how is Donald Trump going to
:22:50. > :22:52.square those things? We are still waiting for Donald Trump to speak at
:22:53. > :22:56.the Department of Homeland Security. There is the audience waiting. Let's
:22:57. > :23:03.just talk a bit about executive orders. We spoke a lot about them in
:23:04. > :23:09.the past 23 days. He is finding a number of them. What can force do
:23:10. > :23:19.they have, are they typed typed in terms of law? -- tight. As president
:23:20. > :23:23.you can either get Congress to go along with you and get congressional
:23:24. > :23:29.approval which then becomes law, or you have the power of the pen and
:23:30. > :23:33.you can sign an executive order or executive action. Every president
:23:34. > :23:36.does this, you can see Donald Trump putting his signature on the bottom
:23:37. > :23:41.of an executive order. He has been doing that all week. But for a
:23:42. > :23:46.present the problem is an executive order is not as broad as a law
:23:47. > :23:50.passed by Congress and can be overturned by a future president. So
:23:51. > :23:55.all these executive orders that Donald Trump has signed this week
:23:56. > :23:59.will go into force for the duration of his presidency. If the Democrat
:24:00. > :24:09.is elected next, they will be reversed. And that is some
:24:10. > :24:20.signature! Three Trump Towers in that signature! I was looking back
:24:21. > :24:26.today at how many presidential orders had been ordered in the past.
:24:27. > :24:35.Barack Obama, 277 presidential orders, but not as many as Franklin
:24:36. > :24:40.Roosevelt, who issued 3721. Before we go just some pictures of Donald
:24:41. > :24:47.Trump randomly and the North Korean leader in Hong Kong together. Not
:24:48. > :24:50.really, of course. A couple of impersonators entertaining the
:24:51. > :24:54.crowds outside the US Consulate. Both leaders have said they would be
:24:55. > :25:01.open to a meeting. Not sure they would get on just quite as well as
:25:02. > :25:09.this. Not perhaps the picture at the White House would like anyone to see
:25:10. > :25:12.either. I think Donald Trump has been a very good character.
:25:13. > :25:15.Just a reminder that every evening after this show,
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:26:08. > :26:16.Good evening. Across the South and east it has been a cold and foggy
:26:17. > :26:22.day. Even some grains of snow out there at the moment. But for other
:26:23. > :26:27.areas it was a lovely day. This is how it looked underneath the blanket
:26:28. > :26:36.of cloud further south and east. That is now causing an issue with
:26:37. > :26:39.some fog which is quite extensive. Some sunshine also for Scotland and
:26:40. > :26:44.Northern Ireland. Through the evening and overnight the cloud in
:26:45. > :26:51.the south just further north and west. And the wind is strengthening
:26:52. > :26:54.as it does so. So with the increased breeze especially for the north and
:26:55. > :26:58.west that should not be such a cold night. For many parts of Scotland
:26:59. > :27:02.and Northern Ireland especially towns and cities, it Frost levels
:27:03. > :27:11.but not in the South even with more cloud, which is unusual. So it will
:27:12. > :27:15.feel quite bitter and the cloud gives us some drizzle and grains of
:27:16. > :27:19.snow falling onto frozen surfaces and so it could be quite treacherous
:27:20. > :27:26.first thing in the morning on untreated roads and pavements. So
:27:27. > :27:30.did take extra care. So quite a grey start again for the bulk of England
:27:31. > :27:36.and Wales with that blanket of cloud. Hill fog for the Peak
:27:37. > :27:42.District and Pennines and the worlds -- the Welsh Marches. Cloudy for
:27:43. > :27:45.Northern Ireland. But probably some sunshine coming through. Some
:27:46. > :27:49.brightness in the south of the day goes on, but adding on the wind
:27:50. > :27:56.chill and temperatures will be feeling much lower than freezing.
:27:57. > :28:00.That is because we have a stronger wind. On Friday we pull in more of a
:28:01. > :28:04.southerly wind. There could be some snow across eastern areas initially
:28:05. > :28:09.and then showers of rain coming in later. But again we are going to
:28:10. > :28:13.start to see a bit of a change taking place through Friday. Not
:28:14. > :28:16.quite as cold and this area of showers denotes an area of low
:28:17. > :28:19.pressure which is likely to cross the whole of the UK through
:28:20. > :28:22.Saturday. Srebrenica some showers. So not raining all the time but some
:28:23. > :28:27.heavy showers around and quite cloudy. A cooler day again on
:28:28. > :30:05.Sunday. Welcome back to 100 Days
:30:06. > :30:09.with Katty Kay in Washington. President Trump says his
:30:10. > :30:15.administration will start building a wall on the US border with Mexico
:30:16. > :30:18.within months and America will be Coming up, Gun violence in Chicago -
:30:19. > :30:25.President Trump says he could send I think I check Donald Trump's
:30:26. > :30:42.twitter feed at least three There's 14 million
:30:43. > :30:47.others already signed up to the POTUS Twitter
:30:48. > :30:50.handle - why? Because it is an open window
:30:51. > :30:57.into what the President is thinking. And last night, the President
:30:58. > :31:02.was at it again. He sent out this tweet about gun
:31:03. > :31:15.violence in Chicago... There were 762 homicides
:31:16. > :31:21.last year in Chicago. President Trump seems to have
:31:22. > :31:24.picked up on a report in the Chicago Tribune,
:31:25. > :31:26.which suggest shootings are already up compared
:31:27. > :31:28.to the same period last year - figures disputed by
:31:29. > :31:33.the Chicago Police Department. It's unclear exactly
:31:34. > :31:36.what intervention the President is proposing, but the problems
:31:37. > :31:39.in the city are well known. In fact our correspondent
:31:40. > :31:42.Ian Pannell spent a good deal of time there last year,
:31:43. > :31:45.reporting on gang violence. In a moment we'll talk to him,
:31:46. > :31:48.but first here's clip Odile is a rapper from
:31:49. > :31:53.the West side, now the most He is a member of the Vice Lords
:31:54. > :31:58.gang, he has been in prison, and even he is shocked
:31:59. > :32:03.by what is happening. It is like somebody dropped off
:32:04. > :32:10.crazy guns in everybody's hood. It seemed like it was designed
:32:11. > :32:13.but I think a lot of guys need I think some of these need to get
:32:14. > :32:20.killed to get them out of the way. So we have been stood
:32:21. > :32:35.here for five minutes. I have seen two police cars,
:32:36. > :32:37.one ambulance go by. Suddenly we were told
:32:38. > :32:41.to leave the area, as Odile Hey, what just happened,
:32:42. > :32:51.why did we have to leave so quickly? There is like a war around,
:32:52. > :32:55.two gangs and that is why so many Somebody just got shot
:32:56. > :33:12.a couple of blocks up. What do you make of President
:33:13. > :33:18.Trump's tweet about sending in the fads. What would it mean, is it
:33:19. > :33:27.possible? You are asking me what President Trump is thinking? The
:33:28. > :33:30.feds are already there. The mayor of Chicago has been holding a press
:33:31. > :33:38.conference in the last hour and has made the point, the feds, the drug
:33:39. > :33:41.enforcement agency, the FBI, they are already there. He would like
:33:42. > :33:47.more assistance, more help and more resorts is. He is putting the ball
:33:48. > :33:52.back in President Trump's court saying, if you want me to deal with
:33:53. > :33:59.gun crime, these are the resources we need. The other alternative is,
:34:00. > :34:05.you send in the National Guard. The mayor made it clear, it wasn't their
:34:06. > :34:11.job to enforce public safety. Would the National Guard on the streets
:34:12. > :34:16.you were covering in Chicago, stop gun violence there? Certainly might
:34:17. > :34:25.limit the amount of inter-gang gun violence. They would have this day?
:34:26. > :34:30.They would. I have never seen so many guns in civilian hands outside
:34:31. > :34:39.of a war zone, many people say Chicago is. You have covered a lot
:34:40. > :34:46.of war zones. This would only lead to escalation. The question is, what
:34:47. > :34:52.is the solution, do you think? Very good question. A lot of those issues
:34:53. > :34:59.have been raised by President Trump in terms of education, housing and
:35:00. > :35:03.jobs. I met a lot of people doing two or three jobs, just to make ends
:35:04. > :35:08.meet. The reason there are so many drugs, guns and violence, those
:35:09. > :35:13.three things feed off each other. Lack of jobs, so people turn to
:35:14. > :35:18.other ways of making money. I was watching the film today, and one of
:35:19. > :35:24.the people you interviewed said the problem got worse when they took the
:35:25. > :35:31.gang leaders out of the picture? Yes, that is something I heard
:35:32. > :35:36.repeatedly. And it ties into what Katty had to say, how do you deal
:35:37. > :35:40.with this? If you go after the gang leaders and the gangs, it leads to
:35:41. > :35:45.this fracturing, you lose a sense of control, sons of the hierarchy that
:35:46. > :35:49.does exist, which means those larger gangs, which is something we saw in
:35:50. > :35:56.Mexico and their drug war. You take out the cartel, and you'll end up
:35:57. > :36:01.with more gangs, less control and the rules that were in force are
:36:02. > :36:06.diminished. But historically, the violence has been worse in Chicago,
:36:07. > :36:10.it is not just Chicago that has this problem. President Trump has made it
:36:11. > :36:15.clear this is at the forefront of his agenda. He and the mayor will
:36:16. > :36:19.have to do something about it. The figures last year were terrible, but
:36:20. > :36:23.the figures this year are even worse. Thank you, for the moment.
:36:24. > :36:25.Well for more on this let's speak to Maze Jackson,
:36:26. > :36:28.a Chicago resident and broadcaster, who's lived in one of
:36:29. > :36:39.You grew up in Chicago, how different is it now and why have you
:36:40. > :36:46.had to move out of the suburbs in the last year? Let me correct you, I
:36:47. > :36:50.was born in Chicago, moved to the suburbs and then came back to
:36:51. > :36:55.Chicago. When I came back, I decided I wanted to be part of the solution
:36:56. > :37:00.and not part of the brain drain. Often when black people become
:37:01. > :37:04.successful, we tend to move out of our neighbourhoods, depriving the
:37:05. > :37:09.black kids in those communities the opportunity to see examples of
:37:10. > :37:13.success. I decided with my wife, to move back into one of our more
:37:14. > :37:18.challenging neighbourhoods. I also had to face the fact I was raising a
:37:19. > :37:32.16-year-old daughter. As I was trying to give back and live in a
:37:33. > :37:34.certain community, there was a shoot out on my daughter, I wind up
:37:35. > :37:37.telling her to stay out later because I didn't want her to be a
:37:38. > :37:41.victim of the violence occurring in our neighbourhood. What does that
:37:42. > :37:44.mean when you are moving around your neighbourhood, do you have two plan
:37:45. > :37:51.where you go and which direction you take around the city? I would say,
:37:52. > :37:56.the people in our neighbourhood, we often, you know where to go and
:37:57. > :38:02.where not to go. You know certain communities to stay out of. The
:38:03. > :38:06.violence in Chicago is probably limited to a couple of zip codes.
:38:07. > :38:13.But those zip codes spill out into the city as a whole and it affects
:38:14. > :38:18.the complete numbers. Hello, I want to ask you about Donald Trump's
:38:19. > :38:23.tweet and his idea of sending in the fads, do you think the situation has
:38:24. > :38:29.got so bad in Chicago, but some residents were the gun violence is
:38:30. > :38:40.worse, they might welcome the feds coming in, what ever that means?
:38:41. > :38:43.There is mixed opinion. For a person like myself, I couldn't imagine
:38:44. > :38:48.wanting to welcome the federal government in to deal with the
:38:49. > :38:51.crime. But I have talked to those people in those communities, there
:38:52. > :38:56.is a sense of, we will take whatever resources we get to make sure we
:38:57. > :39:00.stop this violence that is occurring. OK, are are also people
:39:01. > :39:04.in Chicago who might welcome President Trump's tough stand on
:39:05. > :39:11.illegal immigration. I know it in Chicago there are tensions between
:39:12. > :39:16.African Americans and members of the Hispanic community? I think there
:39:17. > :39:21.are a few, particularly in the black community, are in a competition for
:39:22. > :39:26.resources. A lot of black Americans, even though we have talked about the
:39:27. > :39:30.recovery and how great things are, unemployment is growing. In Chicago
:39:31. > :39:34.we have the highest unemployment for black men under the age of 18. It
:39:35. > :39:40.seems to be a competition for resources. We are experiencing
:39:41. > :39:44.record violence, the mayor, when he has an opportunity to address the
:39:45. > :39:50.president of the United States, the most powerful man in the world,
:39:51. > :39:53.talks about a sanctuary city. Where is the sanctuary cities
:39:54. > :39:57.African-Americans who live in these cities, who are being terrorised by
:39:58. > :40:05.the violence? Thank you very much for joining us.
:40:06. > :40:12.The statistics are terrifying, more people died in Chicago than died in
:40:13. > :40:18.Afghanistan. It proves Chicago is a war zone and so many people dying,
:40:19. > :40:27.over 1000 people. We are just keeping our eye on the podium at the
:40:28. > :40:32.Department of Homeland Security. As soon as President Trump comes out to
:40:33. > :40:34.speak, we will bring it to you. In a meantime, let's look at some of the
:40:35. > :40:37.other developments today. Some of the other key developments
:40:38. > :40:40.today, Russia says it has "no illusions" that relations
:40:41. > :40:43.with the US will improve quickly Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said
:40:44. > :40:46.he had no "naive expectations" You might remember that same term
:40:47. > :40:51.was used by Obama's administration to describe their drive for closer
:40:52. > :40:55.ties between the two countries. Protesters have climbed
:40:56. > :40:57.a construction site crane a few Activists from Greenpeace
:40:58. > :41:01.unfurled a 70 foot banner The demonstrators say this
:41:02. > :41:05.is an "all-encompassing message" against the new President
:41:06. > :41:08.and his policies on the environment, The man tipped to be Donald Trump's
:41:09. > :41:13.ambassador to the EU, Ted Malloch, says that Britain could agree
:41:14. > :41:16.a "mutually beneficial" free trade But the EU has made it clear that
:41:17. > :41:20.Britain can't negotiate free trade deals with other countries until it
:41:21. > :41:23.has left the bloc. Prime Minister Theresa May
:41:24. > :41:26.will travel to Washington We'll speak to Ted Malloch
:41:27. > :41:34.tomorrow on the programme. We should know in just over a week
:41:35. > :41:38.what the full make up of the US Supreme Court will look like under
:41:39. > :41:40.President Trump. In one of his other tweets
:41:41. > :41:45.earlier, he wrote... "I will be making my Supreme Court
:41:46. > :41:48.pick on Thursday of next week. The court has had only eight
:41:49. > :42:07.justices since the death last year We want to show you a picture we
:42:08. > :42:12.have been looking at. It is a bison. It has been put out by the National
:42:13. > :42:16.Park service in place of pictures they put up at the weekend of the
:42:17. > :42:21.inauguration and those smaller crowds, which didn't please the
:42:22. > :42:26.White House. So they put out this message with the bison saying we
:42:27. > :42:30.regret the mistake and re-tweets from our account yesterday. This
:42:31. > :42:32.comes back to the White House reportedly cracking down on the
:42:33. > :42:38.communications from federal agencies, including...
:42:39. > :42:49.Although, the White House is saying they didn't crack down, they say the
:42:50. > :42:57.Department is standing by protocol. Thanks for being with us today. This
:42:58. > :43:08.is 100 Days on BBC News. Goodbye.