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:00:00. > :00:08.and nothing -- but nothing on the scale of what we're in the USA. More

:00:09. > :01:30.details online. -- what we're getting in the USA.

:01:31. > :01:32.Hello and welcome to One Hundred Days.

:01:33. > :01:34.The Turkish President blames the Dutch

:01:35. > :01:37.for one of the worst massacres in modern European history.

:01:38. > :01:40.As the row with the Netherlands intensifies, after Turkish ministers

:01:41. > :01:43.were banned from political rallies there,

:01:44. > :01:47.President Erdogan makes this inflammatory claim.

:01:48. > :01:49.We know the Netherlands and the Dutch people

:01:50. > :01:55.We know how rotten their character is from their massacre

:01:56. > :02:04.The Prime Minister of the Netherlands says the comments

:02:05. > :02:09.The row looks set to overshadow tomorrow's Dutch election.

:02:10. > :02:12.The president of Turkey is behaving increasingly more hysterical

:02:13. > :02:16.hour by hour and I want him to tone down and to calm down.

:02:17. > :02:19.In Washington the Republican plan to replace Obamacare would increase

:02:20. > :02:23.the number of Americans without health cover by 24 million

:02:24. > :02:30.The north-eastern US states of New York, New Jersey,

:02:31. > :02:32.Pennsylvania and Virginia have declared states of emergency

:02:33. > :02:36.as a huge winter storm sweeps in, bringing heavy snow.

:02:37. > :02:40.And reliving every parent's nightmare -

:02:41. > :02:42.Professor Robert Kelly tells us what life's

:02:43. > :02:48.been like since his interview, and his family, went viral.

:02:49. > :02:55.It's been pretty unreal. We didn't expect any attention like this at

:02:56. > :03:02.all. We certainly never had anything like this in our life. That

:03:03. > :03:08.Hello I am Katty Kay in Washington, Christian Fraser is in London.

:03:09. > :03:11.Next month Turkey will hold a referendum on changes

:03:12. > :03:15.to its constitution that would grant Recep Tayyip Erdogan

:03:16. > :03:19.If he wins the vote, the position of Prime Minister

:03:20. > :03:22.will be abolished in favour of a new "executive presidency" -

:03:23. > :03:25.Polls suggest Turks are evenly divided on the issue.

:03:26. > :03:28.To win, Mr Erdogan might need the support of the millions of Turks

:03:29. > :03:31.who live in countries across Europe and can vote in the referendum.

:03:32. > :03:33.On Sunday the Dutch government, stopped Turkish ministers

:03:34. > :03:38.German states have taken similar action.

:03:39. > :03:42.In response Mr Erdogan labelled the Dutch - "Nazis" -

:03:43. > :03:44.and blocked the return of the Dutch Ambassador.

:03:45. > :03:52.Today Mr Erdogan invoked the Srebrenica massacre when,

:03:53. > :03:55.in 1995, 110 Dutch peacekeepers failed to stop the killing

:03:56. > :04:05.TRANSLATION: My dear friends,...

:04:06. > :04:09.We know the Netherlands and the Dutch people

:04:10. > :04:17.We know how rotten their character is from their massacre

:04:18. > :04:29.In the past few hours our colleague Ros Atkins got this response

:04:30. > :04:34.from the Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

:04:35. > :04:37.I have to say that what he said today about Srebrenica is

:04:38. > :04:39.completely unacceptable and a rewriting of history.

:04:40. > :04:42.The president of Turkey is behaving increasingly more hysterical

:04:43. > :04:50.hour by hour and I want him to tone down and to calm down.

:04:51. > :05:02.this is not helping at all and it is an acceptable. He said that people

:05:03. > :05:09.in the Netherlands should vote in the interest of Turkey. People in

:05:10. > :05:13.the Netherlands should vote in the interest of the Netherlands. The

:05:14. > :05:31.Netherlands is a very proud people and country too. What is the

:05:32. > :05:35.President playing at? It's an extraordinary escalation of

:05:36. > :05:40.inflammatory rhetoric which is designed for domestic purposes

:05:41. > :05:46.exclusively to rally his Nationalist voter base who love this sort of

:05:47. > :05:49.thing. Their strongman president standing up to Europe and presenting

:05:50. > :05:56.Turkey as a victim of oppression from Europe. That the Europeans is

:05:57. > :06:01.giving Turkey lessons on freedom of speech when actually they are

:06:02. > :06:07.abusing human rights and dispersing Turkish protesters in a very violent

:06:08. > :06:11.way. It is really something that is designed for this half of the

:06:12. > :06:19.country that supports President Erdogan. This pro-government

:06:20. > :06:26.newspaper today used a play on words, not very subtly, to talk

:06:27. > :06:31.about how Mark Rutte is a dog. That is very much taking the message

:06:32. > :06:36.literally. Another pro-government paper talking about how a simple

:06:37. > :06:41.apology is not enough from the Netherlands. Hammering home this

:06:42. > :06:48.idea that Turkey has the moral high ground here. This secular newspaper

:06:49. > :06:54.says thanks to Germany and Holland's actions, the yes campaign in the

:06:55. > :06:59.referendum held in foreign half weeks' time about boosting President

:07:00. > :07:04.Erdogan's powers will get two points more because people are really

:07:05. > :07:08.rallying behind his side on this issue. In the much more pro-European

:07:09. > :07:13.side of the country, they are recalling in horror at the way

:07:14. > :07:24.Turkey is calling out Nato alleys in this way. -- Nato allies. Let's just

:07:25. > :07:28.move it away from the row for a second and focus on this referendum.

:07:29. > :07:37.How much power is it going to vest in President Erdogan if he wins?

:07:38. > :07:43.Nothing short of the biggest political shake-up since Turkey has

:07:44. > :07:50.had since the foundation of the independent nation in 1923. It would

:07:51. > :07:56.change from a prime ministerial to a presidential republic. He would have

:07:57. > :08:00.vastly enhanced powers. He would be head of the executive as well as

:08:01. > :08:06.head of state. He would be able to elect laws by decree, point judges,

:08:07. > :08:12.prepare the budget and it would give him much bigger powers. He says that

:08:13. > :08:15.Parliament would have greater oversight of the President and would

:08:16. > :08:21.be able to answer more to the parliament but this is very much the

:08:22. > :08:24.climax of his career. He is going guns blazing for this referendum and

:08:25. > :08:27.this whole campaign with Europe is designed to that effect. Thanks very

:08:28. > :08:49.much. What is this row doing for Mark

:08:50. > :08:56.Rutte's chances? According to polls this afternoon, it seems to be doing

:08:57. > :09:04.him good. He is performing better in the polls today than he has done for

:09:05. > :09:10.months. Some people in the Netherlands had suggested that it

:09:11. > :09:15.would be in his interest to let the row escalates but that argument has

:09:16. > :09:23.evaporated today. People today have been so offended and so by what

:09:24. > :09:27.President Erdogan has said, he spoke about state terror, he made

:09:28. > :09:34.reference to the Srebrenica massacre, he called this country a

:09:35. > :09:46.banana republic. He has succeeded in unifying all politicians behind Mark

:09:47. > :09:58.-- Mark Rutte and saying he is right to reply in the way that he did.

:09:59. > :10:02.It matters because Turkey is so 'crucially' important

:10:03. > :10:05.Geographically it is, of course, one of the largest landmasses

:10:06. > :10:07.separating Europe and the Middle East.

:10:08. > :10:09.And since 2011 Turkey has been heavily involved in the conflict

:10:10. > :10:14.They have been pushing back IS from their southern border.

:10:15. > :10:16.Last month Syrian rebels - backed by Turkey - took back

:10:17. > :10:18.the northern Syrian town of al-Bab from IS.

:10:19. > :10:21.There are complicating factors - the Turkish forces have also been

:10:22. > :10:23.attacking Kurdish fighters who are armed and supported

:10:24. > :10:26.And recently they have cooperated with the Russia military,

:10:27. > :10:31.On top of all that Turkey is a hugely important partner

:10:32. > :10:33.in helping Europe deal with the migrant crisis.

:10:34. > :10:35.They have taken in just under three million people who have

:10:36. > :10:37.escaped the fighting in Syria, many of them trying

:10:38. > :10:44.The deal the EU struck with Turkey last year led to a sharp fall

:10:45. > :10:47.in the numbers making that perilous journey by sea to Greece.

:10:48. > :10:50.In return for that better policing, Turkey received a big cash hand

:10:51. > :10:52.out and some political concessions as well.

:10:53. > :10:54.With me now is the former US ambassador to Turkey

:10:55. > :11:02.When you listen to what President Erdogan has been saying, is he

:11:03. > :11:09.acting increasingly irrational, is it politics, what is going on? It

:11:10. > :11:19.has gone very bad, very fast. This is the Erdogan I know from 2008-10.

:11:20. > :11:23.He exploits situations to advance his political agenda. This is

:11:24. > :11:28.working on the ground in what will be a tight referendum for him. The

:11:29. > :11:34.Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte is happy about this because his numbers

:11:35. > :11:38.are going up at the expense of Geert Wilders who Erdogan doesn't want to

:11:39. > :11:47.see win. Both sides are actually benefiting from this. What does it

:11:48. > :11:51.do to Turkey's chances of one day joining the European Union? People

:11:52. > :11:58.are not going to forget the things he has said to Germany and Holland

:11:59. > :12:02.over the last couple of days? It is going to further diminish what most

:12:03. > :12:09.people think is a slim chance that Turkey would become part of the

:12:10. > :12:15.European Union? Is it basically giving up on the ambition to join

:12:16. > :12:22.the European Union? Turkey has a greatly beneficial customs union, 1

:12:23. > :12:25.million Dutch tourists and $22 billion investment alone that they

:12:26. > :12:30.don't want to give up. Turkey doesn't want to give up the idea

:12:31. > :12:35.that it is a European Union so it will maintain the charade of wanting

:12:36. > :12:42.membership into the future. We have spoken a lot about the situation of

:12:43. > :12:46.the State Department and the fact that Rex Tillerson doesn't have a

:12:47. > :12:51.deputy of the staff to get to grips with the problems he needs to get to

:12:52. > :12:57.grips with. Is this that in normal times the Americans would be able to

:12:58. > :13:02.do something about? Would they be able to if Rex Tillerson had staff

:13:03. > :13:07.in place? Where did the United States wants to intervene in this,

:13:08. > :13:12.given the fact that we are on the ground in a very confused situation

:13:13. > :13:19.in northern Syria, I don't think so. I think the US will step out of it.

:13:20. > :13:23.Rex Tillerson and his acting deputy Tom Shannon are more than capable of

:13:24. > :13:29.acting effectively on something like this with or without the agreed

:13:30. > :13:36.pathetic situation of staffing in the State Department. So I suppose

:13:37. > :13:41.it is less of a concern, this row that might blow over, more of

:13:42. > :13:44.concern is where President Erdogan is taking the country and how

:13:45. > :13:53.unstable it might become in the future. We are worried about that.

:13:54. > :13:59.Roughly half the population want to see him sees these powers. This is

:14:00. > :14:04.not democratic. I thought, French fifth Republic and the American

:14:05. > :14:11.Constitution, we have had some experience of this, however, in the

:14:12. > :14:16.hands of someone who may not respect democracy as much as we might hear

:14:17. > :14:18.in America, that can be very problematic and people in Washington

:14:19. > :14:26.are very worried about where President Erdogan is taking the

:14:27. > :14:29.country, for sure. We are taking some time looking at populist

:14:30. > :14:39.leaders and their characters and policies. Are you suggesting that

:14:40. > :14:45.people are looking at President Trump and saying he is copying the

:14:46. > :14:53.style of people President Erdogan. People who have spoken to him say he

:14:54. > :14:58.has the ability to act rationally but some of those with nationalist

:14:59. > :15:03.ideals and played to a populist audience who can beat thin-skinned

:15:04. > :15:07.and it back at critics in a way that it seems President Erdogan is doing

:15:08. > :15:11.in language that might be outrageous but plays to their base. Is that a

:15:12. > :15:17.characteristic of populist leaders in this day and age? I wonder. We

:15:18. > :15:20.will move on and talk about health care.

:15:21. > :15:23.We've suggested before on this programme that the Trump Presidency

:15:24. > :15:25.represents a test for populist movements - today that test hit

:15:26. > :15:28.a hurdle, in the form of hard data on health care reform.

:15:29. > :15:32.Governing, it seems, is a lot harder than campaigning.

:15:33. > :15:37.Mr Trump's promise to repeal and replace Obamacare has bumped up

:15:38. > :15:40.against the cold reality of a study from the non partisan

:15:41. > :15:42.Congressional Budget Office showing the Republican's health plan

:15:43. > :15:48.The report estimates 14 million people will become uninsured by next

:15:49. > :15:56.Rising to 24 million people over the coming decade.

:15:57. > :16:00.Though that will create savings

:16:01. > :16:04.of 337 billion dollars over ten years.

:16:05. > :16:07.Rajini Vaidyanathan has been taking a closer look at how

:16:08. > :16:24.This woman has made it on her own in the way of work. She and her husband

:16:25. > :16:28.own a small jewellery business. Being self-employed, they don't have

:16:29. > :16:33.a boss to cover health care insurance. They struggle to pay

:16:34. > :16:38.medical bills until President Obama introduced his health care law. When

:16:39. > :16:42.the affordable health care act was passed, we were able to get a

:16:43. > :16:48.reasonable insurance policy that covered a lot more. The deductible

:16:49. > :16:54.went from a 10,000 family deductible down to 3000. Now they are concerned

:16:55. > :16:59.that their bills will rise as President Trump repeals Obama care.

:17:00. > :17:06.The Republican replacement would cut up from subsidies and instead offer

:17:07. > :17:12.a year end tax credit. I don't think we could pay upfront costs per month

:17:13. > :17:20.that we are able to cover now. We've had good coverage of it now. We just

:17:21. > :17:27.have to stay healthy and educated about the programme. Others are glad

:17:28. > :17:34.to see the back of the Obama care plan. I didn't want to have to pay

:17:35. > :17:41.for insurance and be fined if I'd went. Frank voted for Donald Trump

:17:42. > :17:52.and backed his health care plan even though he may lose out. They may

:17:53. > :17:55.drop people of the insurance plan because they still have got health

:17:56. > :18:01.care if they go into the emergency room. This comes down to cost, how

:18:02. > :18:06.watch people pay for themselves and how much they bear the cost for

:18:07. > :18:10.others. The government plan could cut the federal deficit by hundreds

:18:11. > :18:19.of billions but some doctors are unclear how it will affect patients?

:18:20. > :18:24.I think it may change the winners and losers but it is not going to

:18:25. > :18:29.eliminate losers, it is going to change the problems people encounter

:18:30. > :18:34.but not address the problems. That has been the dilemma in American

:18:35. > :18:45.health care for decades. The system divides patients as much as it does

:18:46. > :18:46.doctors. You are fine. Your best protection against this health care

:18:47. > :18:49.system is not to get sick. Our North America Editor

:18:50. > :19:00.Jon Sopel is here. 50 or so days into the Tron

:19:01. > :19:09.presidency and his pace has stuck with him firmly. Do you think these

:19:10. > :19:12.numbers mark the beginning of this base thinking, hang on the second,

:19:13. > :19:18.you promised to look after the common man and you are giving the

:19:19. > :19:23.rich a big tax cut? It could be the issue that separates Donald Trump

:19:24. > :19:28.from his base if things go badly. This could be it for the Republican

:19:29. > :19:33.party and the leadership. There are so many layers of complexity in

:19:34. > :19:40.this. Donald Trump, it's easy, cheaper, better. In government, it's

:19:41. > :19:43.fiendishly complicated, isn't it? What does he do with House

:19:44. > :19:48.Republicans who thought they could vote for it, it might fail, I'm

:19:49. > :19:54.going to get blamed in two years in elections. No thanks. I don't want

:19:55. > :19:59.to have anything to do with it. How much political input does Donald

:20:00. > :20:05.Trump put into it? Does he want his name closely associated with it? If

:20:06. > :20:09.he goes too much in one direction, he loses the libertarian right who

:20:10. > :20:14.don't want government interference. Too much in the other direction, he

:20:15. > :20:18.loses other people. It is a really delicate balancing act and I think

:20:19. > :20:26.there are people who in private quiet moments are thinking, why have

:20:27. > :20:30.we opened this Pandora's box? Could he have a pizza and bowling night

:20:31. > :20:35.and hope to pull some of them in? That's what he's doing tonight. The

:20:36. > :20:42.budget committee meets in the house tomorrow and it is full of rogue

:20:43. > :20:46.Republicans. He is the negotiator in chief and he prides himself on

:20:47. > :20:53.bringing home the deals. If he can't does he shift the blame to them? I

:20:54. > :20:56.hate to do the only time will tell and so which is the lame answer when

:20:57. > :21:03.correspondence don't want to stick their neck out. He has put a certain

:21:04. > :21:08.amount of political capital in, he won't want to be defeated because I

:21:09. > :21:15.think it will be a huge moment in the early stage of his presidency if

:21:16. > :21:20.he had to admit, you know I promised you that thing, I can't do it. You

:21:21. > :21:23.just have to think of the toxic nature of the adverts Democrats will

:21:24. > :21:29.be able to run if they are able to say in two years' time, there could

:21:30. > :21:33.be 24 million people without insurance as a result of Republicans

:21:34. > :21:38.having supported this about. It may be unfair but who said politics was

:21:39. > :21:43.fair? Donald Trump has a very difficult job knowing which way to

:21:44. > :21:53.jump, knowing how far to commit itself, using how much political

:21:54. > :21:58.capital on this. Already talking about the midterms. Not getting into

:21:59. > :22:04.the small print about health care but this gives a very good example

:22:05. > :22:10.of how costs could go up. This is for people who earn $26,000

:22:11. > :22:14.annually. That's what they pay at the moment in premiums under Obama

:22:15. > :22:21.care. Look what happens according to this report when this new system

:22:22. > :22:30.kicks in. For 64-year-old people, it jumps dramatically. That is nearly

:22:31. > :22:36.half the salary of the 64-year old, much cheaper for the 21-year-old who

:22:37. > :22:47.never goes to the clinic. An increase of six times for the older

:22:48. > :22:50.people, who are the ones who vote in the elections. All the more

:22:51. > :22:56.incentives for the Republicans to address this. President Trump

:22:57. > :23:00.campaigned on this idea that he was going to help poor Americans and

:23:01. > :23:05.make sure they weren't forgotten. This plan, as it stands, sacrifices

:23:06. > :23:08.the needs of poor Americans and gives a tax break to wealthier

:23:09. > :23:13.Americans. Is that something that they are going to want to go into

:23:14. > :23:18.the mid-term elections supporting? It doesn't sound very populist. How

:23:19. > :23:25.did it go down in your household this morning with all of the snow?

:23:26. > :23:31.The snow was very popular. My son got a day of school on his birthday.

:23:32. > :23:35.He was thrilled. I've got to intervene in this debate even though

:23:36. > :23:50.I'm not meant to be in this section. I walk my dog along from where Katty

:23:51. > :23:55.lives, and they hadn't dug out their pavement. You are very good citizen.

:23:56. > :23:59.Get Now out of the studio! Christian, I told you yesterday

:24:00. > :24:02.that it was cold here in the US - This was the view for millions

:24:03. > :24:06.of commuters across America's Winter Storm Stella has forced

:24:07. > :24:09.the closure schools, flights are cancelled,

:24:10. > :24:11.and the snow ploughs are out This is the view right

:24:12. > :24:18.now in New York. You have to say we do whether big in

:24:19. > :24:33.America. What's it like? You don't get snow

:24:34. > :24:37.like we do here in New York. We had powdery snow in the morning and it

:24:38. > :24:43.has turned into sleet and icy snow that when it hits your face is

:24:44. > :24:45.really painful. What's making the conditions worse are the rough

:24:46. > :24:50.howling winds that knock you off of your feet when they get going.

:24:51. > :24:57.Officials have said that despite the fact that New York City hasn't borne

:24:58. > :25:02.the brunt of the storm, not the 20 inches that they had forecasted, it

:25:03. > :25:06.is still icy conditions that they are worried about. Particularly on

:25:07. > :25:11.the roadways. They say it could be very treacherous. They have spent

:25:12. > :25:14.1500 ploughs throughout New York City to try and clean up for

:25:15. > :25:19.tomorrow when icy conditions could make it harder to clean up so the

:25:20. > :25:24.city can get up and running and get over the massive disruption we have

:25:25. > :25:29.seen today. Just looking at these pictures. These small buggies with

:25:30. > :25:32.ploughs on the front. If this happened in the UK, there would be

:25:33. > :25:37.all sorts of problems for weeks. They deal with it better in New

:25:38. > :25:44.York, don't they? Absolutely, Christian. We have the subways

:25:45. > :25:49.running still. The aboveground subways have been shot. The roadways

:25:50. > :25:53.are still open although speed limits have been imposed. In upstate New

:25:54. > :26:01.York where they are getting really hit, they are closing stretches.

:26:02. > :26:06.LaGuardia airport, 99% of flights have been cancelled. We are seeing

:26:07. > :26:10.the same across the New York metropolitan area airports. Even

:26:11. > :26:16.though officials are hoping that schools will reopen and companies

:26:17. > :26:21.will reopen. They are suggesting delays may last for a day or so at

:26:22. > :26:25.least in addition to that. Officials are you trying to grapple with the

:26:26. > :26:33.disruption we have seen. For the moment, thank you very much. One

:26:34. > :26:39.very quick good news story. A Democrat and Republican Congress but

:26:40. > :26:44.who had flights cancelled. Driving together from Texas to Washington to

:26:45. > :26:49.try and get to one of their votes in time. A rare bipartisan story for

:26:50. > :26:52.as. Weather-related. Well done. Voting politics aside.

:26:53. > :26:54.You're watching One Hundred Days from BBC News.

:26:55. > :26:57.Still to come for viewers on the BBC News Channel

:26:58. > :27:00.Scotland could get another independence vote

:27:01. > :27:02.but would the European partners

:27:03. > :27:04.welcome them to the fold in a post-Brexit Britain?

:27:05. > :27:06.And a leaked recording of US House Speaker Paul Ryan

:27:07. > :27:09.reveals some scathing comments about Donald Trump -

:27:10. > :27:15.what's interesting though is the timing of the leak,

:27:16. > :27:32.That's still to come on 100 Days, from BBC News.

:27:33. > :27:43.Fine and mild weather for the UK, not making news headlines. What is

:27:44. > :27:46.going on in North America is. That north-eastern storm dumping snow

:27:47. > :27:53.inland, away from the immediate east coast in the north east of the USA.

:27:54. > :27:56.The jet stream becoming more powerful as the cold air comes out

:27:57. > :28:05.of North America this week, that means that the jet stream becomes

:28:06. > :28:10.much more active and will affect our weather towards the end of next

:28:11. > :28:17.week. High pressure going into Wednesday. We have scenes like this

:28:18. > :28:21.today, near York, plenty of sunshine with blossoms doing well. In

:28:22. > :28:26.Northern Ireland, another lovely day. Inter to light, under clearer

:28:27. > :28:31.skies, parts of northern Britain, there will be a touch of Frost for

:28:32. > :28:34.some of those. A bit damp and drizzly, strong winds in northern

:28:35. > :28:41.Scotland, showers becoming confined to the Northern Isles. A mild night

:28:42. > :28:45.further south with plenty of cloud. The cloud will thicken from the

:28:46. > :28:51.West, for Wales, western England, for Northern Ireland, outbreaks of

:28:52. > :28:57.rain into western Scotland. Some sunshine in eastern Scotland.

:28:58. > :29:01.Elsewhere in England and Wales, there will be some sunshine. In the

:29:02. > :29:11.longer lasting spells, it will feel quite warm again. A rather cloudy

:29:12. > :29:15.story in Cheltenham as the festival continues. A strong breeze and the

:29:16. > :29:21.temperature coming down later in the week. Looking ahead to Thursday, the

:29:22. > :29:25.weather starting to become more active, a weather front through

:29:26. > :29:30.Scotland and Northern Ireland with heavy showers and strong winds.

:29:31. > :29:36.Cloudy weather into much of England and Wales. By Friday, a stronger

:29:37. > :29:40.system will take rain from north-west to south-east with the

:29:41. > :29:43.wind picking up and temperatures coming down as well. Things feeling

:29:44. > :29:47.different by the end of the week with the stronger jet stream coming

:29:48. > :31:31.into play. Cooler, wetter, and windier by then.

:31:32. > :31:35.I'm Katty Kay in Washington, Christian Fraser's in London.

:31:36. > :31:37.A reminder of our top story: The Turkish president steps

:31:38. > :31:40.up his attacks on the Netherlands, accusing the Dutch of

:31:41. > :31:42.having a rotten character and blood on their hands.

:31:43. > :31:45.And coming up: It's the interrupted interview which went viral.

:31:46. > :31:47.We speak to the family behind the famous video about how they're

:31:48. > :32:10.The First Minister of Scotland caught the British Prime Minister

:32:11. > :32:12.off guard yesterday with a demand for a second referendum.

:32:13. > :32:15.The Scottish National Party argues the vote should be held

:32:16. > :32:17.between the autumn of 2018 and the spring of 2019, when

:32:18. > :32:22.But the power to offer a referendum rests with Theresa May.

:32:23. > :32:29."The nations of the UK will leave the EU together," she says,

:32:30. > :32:31.which means it is highly likely Scotland will need to reapply

:32:32. > :32:33.for European membership if the nationalists can win

:32:34. > :32:41.He is a Labour MEP and a member of the Committee on Constitutional

:32:42. > :32:48.Affairs within the European Parliament.

:32:49. > :32:54.Would Scotland have to reapply if they get independence, could they,

:32:55. > :33:00.as Nicola Sturgeon seems to be suggesting, carry on being a member?

:33:01. > :33:08.If they become an independent state, they would have to apply to become a

:33:09. > :33:11.member. OK, so supposing Scotland gets its independence, wants to

:33:12. > :33:16.become a member again, and they are on the road to access in, is full

:33:17. > :33:23.membership guaranteed, rather conditions attached to that? They

:33:24. > :33:26.would have to negotiate and reach an agreement on an accession treaty,

:33:27. > :33:32.which would have to be approved by the European Parliament and by every

:33:33. > :33:38.Government of all the other member states, and ratified by their

:33:39. > :33:42.national parliaments. In your experience, how long does that take?

:33:43. > :33:46.That usually takes quite a long time, but of course, other countries

:33:47. > :33:53.that have joined and had a different starting point. Scotland already

:33:54. > :33:56.applies all existing EU laws, so that part of it need not be too

:33:57. > :34:01.long, but the need for national ratification by 27 also different

:34:02. > :34:07.national parliaments, some of whom might not be in a hurry, one thinks

:34:08. > :34:11.of Spain, that part might be somewhat longer. Spain said they

:34:12. > :34:17.would go to the back of the queue, the Spanish Foreign Minister. There

:34:18. > :34:25.are many other countries that have applied to join the EU. I think it's

:34:26. > :34:28.possible probably to jump that queue, but your starting point would

:34:29. > :34:33.be at the back. You would move up a bit because you are already ready,

:34:34. > :34:38.in a way, but you would still have that fundamental problem that at the

:34:39. > :34:43.end you need national ratification by 27 National parliaments. Every

:34:44. > :34:49.other country has too agreed. To be clear, it has to be unanimous, all

:34:50. > :34:58.27 have to agree on the accession. Spain is the example you mentioned.

:34:59. > :35:02.Yesterday, we interviewed a member of the SNP who said we always raise

:35:03. > :35:06.the name of Spain, but are there other countries that might object to

:35:07. > :35:10.Scotland becoming a member? I don't know, I doubt it. I can't think of

:35:11. > :35:16.any who would have a particular objection. Spain may not be. We

:35:17. > :35:20.don't know, of course. What we do know is that the Government in

:35:21. > :35:24.Madrid is anxious not to make this an easy, matter-of-fact thing to do

:35:25. > :35:32.when it is faced with the possibility that Catalonia may

:35:33. > :35:35.declare independence to go down the same route. Plenty to think about

:35:36. > :35:37.there. Richard Corbett, thanks for your thoughts.

:35:38. > :35:40.Two of the three main candidates in the French election are now under

:35:41. > :35:42.It's a pretty extraordinary statistic.

:35:43. > :35:45.Francois Fillon, the centre-right leader campaigned as Mr Clean

:35:46. > :35:50.He denies accusations that he paid his wife and children

:35:51. > :35:53.for work they didn't carry out and promises to fight what he calls

:35:54. > :36:08.He now doesn't have the issue just a Penelopegate but of the lovely suit

:36:09. > :36:18.he was given. I suppose you would call it suitgate - 13,000 each, so

:36:19. > :36:23.they must have been fantastic, but they were given to him. Why is he

:36:24. > :36:26.not dropping out? It is a good question. There are

:36:27. > :36:39.plenty in his own party asking the same question. They spared him the

:36:40. > :36:45.walk of shame today. The media expects him -- expected him to

:36:46. > :36:53.appear tomorrow, but he nipped in today. He said he would stand down

:36:54. > :36:59.if he was formally charged, but he has said he is not going to do that

:37:00. > :37:02.because it is a left-wing conspiracy and the investigating magistrates

:37:03. > :37:06.are left-leaning. If you look at the polls, I was going to say that he

:37:07. > :37:10.doesn't look to have much of a chance, running third in all the

:37:11. > :37:20.polls, but he is only four points behind, then today we get another

:37:21. > :37:25.story about Mr Macron, who is under investigation, it looks spurious,

:37:26. > :37:30.but when he was at the economy ministry, they awarded a contract to

:37:31. > :37:35.a PR company without putting it out to tender. Does that mean he is

:37:36. > :37:40.responsible? I don't know. We started this by saying two of the

:37:41. > :37:44.three, but it now looks like potentially three out of three have

:37:45. > :37:49.clouds over them. The politicians have a tendency towards financial

:37:50. > :37:53.corruption, ordered French investigators need something to do?

:37:54. > :37:59.If you ask people in France, there is a general problem about party and

:38:00. > :38:03.campaign financing. If you are in the game long enough, it seems to

:38:04. > :38:07.me, in France you are going to be prone to some kind of investigation.

:38:08. > :38:13.Another thing I spotted today, just before we finish, is a picture that

:38:14. > :38:17.has appeared on the Twitter feed of Nigel Farage. No words, just a

:38:18. > :38:27.picture. Nigel Farage was asked about Marine Le Pen, whether he

:38:28. > :38:31.would support her in an election. He said at the time he thought she was

:38:32. > :38:35.quite brilliant as a performer but had a real problem with the party.

:38:36. > :38:41.He doesn't like the racism and anti-Semitism, and they distanced

:38:42. > :38:46.themselves from the France National in the past. The question is, will

:38:47. > :38:51.he campaign for her, go to France and campaign alongside her? He never

:38:52. > :38:54.did that as the Ukip leader. When you send out a photo of the two

:38:55. > :38:57.people together, it does look chummy.

:38:58. > :38:59.At least two people have been killed during a fireworks factory

:39:00. > :39:06.This amateur footage shows the moment fireworks start

:39:07. > :39:11.You can see the person behind the camera then running for cover.

:39:12. > :39:15.Some people, including children, were wounded by debris.

:39:16. > :39:18.The EU's highest court has ruled that companies can stop employees

:39:19. > :39:21.from wearing visible political or religious symbols.

:39:22. > :39:25.Courts in France and Belgium had asked the European Court of Justice

:39:26. > :39:31.to rule on discrimination cases brought by women who'd been banned

:39:32. > :39:41.from wearing Islamic headscarves at work.

:39:42. > :39:43.We knew long before November's election that Donald Trump

:39:44. > :39:46.was going to have to win without the support of many

:39:47. > :39:51.We knew that senior Republicans, like Speaker of the House Paul Ryan,

:39:52. > :39:57.So it should come as no surprise to learn there is a recording

:39:58. > :40:00.which has just been published in which the House Speaker

:40:01. > :40:02.was less than complimentary about the future president.

:40:03. > :40:04.What's more surprising is where it came from, and the timing.

:40:05. > :40:08.His comments are not anywhere in keeping with our party's

:40:09. > :40:11.There are basically two things that I want to make

:40:12. > :40:15.really clear as for myself as your Speaker.

:40:16. > :40:18.I am not going to defend Donald Trump, not now, not in the

:40:19. > :40:25.That call, leaked by Breitbart, was recorded on October

:40:26. > :40:31.And a day later, there was this from Donald Trump.

:40:32. > :40:34."Our very weak and ineffective leader, Paul Ryan, had a bad

:40:35. > :40:41.conference call where his members went wild at his disloyalty."

:40:42. > :40:50.This intrigues me. There is this huge row where Paul Ryan, a budget

:40:51. > :40:56.hawk, is trying his best with what he has been served up by Donald

:40:57. > :41:00.Trump, and then Breitbart put this out, and they are of course linked

:41:01. > :41:05.to Steve Bannon, President Trump's right-hand man, so was there a link

:41:06. > :41:09.to the White House ear? It is very curious timing, this

:41:10. > :41:14.late, because at the moment, the White House really needs Paul Ryan.

:41:15. > :41:17.He is defending them on national television programmes here,

:41:18. > :41:20.defending their health care bill, doing what he can to rally the

:41:21. > :41:24.Republican party to get the health care bill passed, and then the tape

:41:25. > :41:27.comes out and it seems to be a kick up the pants by him, and why would

:41:28. > :41:34.you do something like this to somebody that you need, if indeed

:41:35. > :41:38.those links between Steve Bannon and Breitbart are as close as they used

:41:39. > :41:43.to be? Would you do it for political

:41:44. > :41:52.covering in case it all goes wrong? You are Machiavellian, Christian!

:41:53. > :41:59.We are playing you at clip that went viral over the weekend.

:42:00. > :42:12.What will it mean for the ride -- the wider region? Shifting sands and

:42:13. > :42:21.relations with the North may change? Pardon me. My apologies... What will

:42:22. > :42:27.this mean for the region? North Korea... South Korea's policy...

:42:28. > :42:33.Still makes me laugh every time, Christian. That clip has been viewed

:42:34. > :42:36.more than 16 million times on you Tube. Professor Kelly has been

:42:37. > :42:46.inundated with media requests. Here is what he told us.

:42:47. > :42:51.This is my wife, this is my son and this is my daughter.

:42:52. > :42:59.And to be able to talk to you, rather

:43:00. > :43:15.than just seeing you running around in the background.

:43:16. > :43:18.Chung-ha, how has it been for you these past few days?

:43:19. > :43:24.The reality is, for around 48 hours, you were the most

:43:25. > :43:31.When you watched it back, which I'm sure you did,

:43:32. > :43:34.could you appreciate what a perfect piece of physical comedy it was,

:43:35. > :43:38.And we've watched it multiple times too, and

:43:39. > :43:41.Everyone seems to think it is pretty hysterical,

:43:42. > :43:44.so we understand why people find it enjoyable, catching a

:43:45. > :43:48.And of course, your wife had a major role

:43:49. > :43:50.in making it funny, flying around the room

:43:51. > :43:53.Did you find it funny watching it back?

:43:54. > :44:06.We were worried actually that the BBC would never call us

:44:07. > :44:12.That was our first response, was mortification.

:44:13. > :44:14.We thought we had completely blown our

:44:15. > :44:25.It's OK. We still love the Kelly family. Great way to end. We'll be

:44:26. > :44:29.back tomorrow. Goodbye.