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:00:07. > :00:18.The US watched Russian hackers interfere with the French election

:00:19. > :00:26.services. The head of the agency services. The head of the agency

:00:27. > :00:29.says he also now have they cannot stay ahead of the cyber attacks. Two

:00:30. > :00:32.days of testimony in a string of days of testimony in a string of

:00:33. > :00:37.warnings from US intelligence agencies on Russia's intentions to

:00:38. > :00:40.undermine democratic elections. The US is considering sending 3000 more

:00:41. > :00:46.troops to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban. Nato is asking the UK to up

:00:47. > :00:49.its commitment as well. The winner of South Korea's

:00:50. > :00:53.presidential election says he wants better relations with the North.

:00:54. > :00:58.Will that make it harder or easier to resolve this crisis?

:00:59. > :01:02.And with over four weeks to go until the general election here in the UK,

:01:03. > :01:06.Prime Minister Theresa May and her husband, Philip, sit down for their

:01:07. > :01:11.first ever broadcast interview putting their partnership in the

:01:12. > :01:14.spotlight. And this is a rare old talent, isn't

:01:15. > :01:20.it? Our colleague Steve Rosenberg not only knows all the winners at

:01:21. > :01:29.the Eurovision Song Contest, he can play them as well.

:01:30. > :01:32.I'm Katty Kay in Washington, Christian Fraser is in London.

:01:33. > :01:35.The US National Security Agency was watching in real time last week

:01:36. > :01:37.as the Russians hacked into the servers of the French

:01:38. > :01:41.They've also determined that the Russian President Vladimir Putin

:01:42. > :01:44.'personally' directed the attack last year on the US election.

:01:45. > :01:46.Today in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee

:01:47. > :01:48.the director of the NSA, Admiral Mike Rogers,

:01:49. > :01:51.was questioned by Senators and this was how he described his agencies

:01:52. > :02:03.He had become aware of Russian activity, we had talked to French

:02:04. > :02:09.counterparts prior to the public announcements of the events that

:02:10. > :02:13.were attributed last weekend, the Russians were seeing them,

:02:14. > :02:18.infrastructure. What can we do to infrastructure. What can we do to

:02:19. > :02:21.try to assist? We were doing some other things with German

:02:22. > :02:22.counterparts. With but his counterparts, they have an upcoming

:02:23. > :02:23.election. Admiral Rogers is concerned

:02:24. > :02:24.cyberattacks are moving from the obtaining data -

:02:25. > :02:28.to manipulating it. But how else did the Russians

:02:29. > :02:31.exert their influence over the US Earlier today, the former US

:02:32. > :02:38.Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was speaking on US television

:02:39. > :02:49.and gave her own take, on Russia's I am appalled by what the Russians

:02:50. > :02:54.did, and the arts to find a way ultimately to punish it. Vladimir

:02:55. > :03:00.Putin is getting tremendous satisfaction from watching us tear

:03:01. > :03:09.apart are an system. He has an eye for an eye kind of person. We

:03:10. > :03:12.questioned specifically, Hillary Clinton specifically questioned the

:03:13. > :03:16.legitimacy of his election in 2012. He is going to show us that he can

:03:17. > :03:18.question and probed about the legitimacy of our elections.

:03:19. > :03:20.Matthew Rojansky is with the Woodrow Wilson Center.

:03:21. > :03:22.He has just returned from Moscow and joins us now.

:03:23. > :03:30.Let's start with Mike Rogers, saying that they were watching in

:03:31. > :03:33.real-time, as Russian hackers interfered in the French elections,

:03:34. > :03:39.and they warned the French. The fact that they want the French, is that

:03:40. > :03:41.key, and is it an indication that western intelligence agencies are

:03:42. > :03:46.coming together to try to combat the Russian threat?

:03:47. > :03:49.It is, and it should be. I think if there was ever a time that the West

:03:50. > :03:53.indifferent about the question of indifferent about the question of

:03:54. > :04:00.conflict in the cyber domain or in the information domain, there is

:04:01. > :04:03.the Russians approached Washington the Russians approached Washington

:04:04. > :04:07.and said let's do a treaty on this, cyber treaty, and Washington said,

:04:08. > :04:10.we don't really need that, our tools are better than yours, we're not

:04:11. > :04:14.afraid of you. We have learned the lesson from that. We playing close

:04:15. > :04:19.attention. This is the blowback from Putin. Every time he tweaks a

:04:20. > :04:23.western country, he drives the circling of the wagons, and

:04:24. > :04:26.cooperation, among his adverse is, and he is having to deal with that

:04:27. > :04:30.now between France and the United States.

:04:31. > :04:36.Let me pick up on what Kondo Lisa Ray said. There was some speculation

:04:37. > :04:39.after the French election here in Washington that all this had shown

:04:40. > :04:44.was backfiring against him because was backfiring against him because

:04:45. > :04:49.Marine Le Pen did not. Is that too simplistic?

:04:50. > :04:57.I think it probably is. Part of what Putin is looking to do broadly is

:04:58. > :05:02.settle in Russian domestic politics. There is also a Russian election in

:05:03. > :05:12.early 2018, it is not grisly free and fair, you can have called it a

:05:13. > :05:19.coronation. A panic about Russia and the West, retaliation against

:05:20. > :05:23.Russia, this feeds Putin's narrative that Russia is under assault, and so

:05:24. > :05:28.you, the Russian people, you need me the strong leader to protect you.

:05:29. > :05:32.Admiral Roger said America is not fast enough to deal with the cyber

:05:33. > :05:35.attacks. That is something I want to put to

:05:36. > :05:39.Matthew, I was in Paris over the weekend with a deputy from the

:05:40. > :05:44.National Assembly, alongside a cyber expert for an interview, and the

:05:45. > :05:47.cyber expert said to him, you don't understand how serious this isn't

:05:48. > :05:53.how far it goes. The deputy tried to say that he did, but it was clear to

:05:54. > :05:56.be that he didn't. This is the problem for a lot of western

:05:57. > :06:01.governments, this is high-tech stuff. These politicians don't

:06:02. > :06:06.properly understand. That's right, on the one hand I

:06:07. > :06:11.think that the French response in terms of, very 11th hour, banning

:06:12. > :06:15.news reporting about any of the content of these alleged leaked

:06:16. > :06:21.e-mails, probably had more blowback than it did benefit. There were a

:06:22. > :06:23.lot of people on Twitter, French and otherwise, complaining about how

:06:24. > :06:29.anti-democratic this was. Fundamentally, there is nothing new.

:06:30. > :06:36.This argument was made in 1946, the way that you contain a defeat, you

:06:37. > :06:40.define problems and you find solutions to those problems. You

:06:41. > :06:43.convince people that your solutions work better than the other guys.

:06:44. > :06:46.That's the biggest problem western democratic institutions have, we

:06:47. > :06:49.talk a big game but we are not sorting out problems.

:06:50. > :06:56.And coming back to that point that And coming back to that point that

:06:57. > :06:59.President Putin is revelling in this, there were strings of Russian

:07:00. > :07:05.code in there. The audacity is all to see.

:07:06. > :07:09.To the extent that what Putin is trying to do is drive a domestic

:07:10. > :07:14.story, something about how the West responds, the fact that the West is

:07:15. > :07:19.incompetent and in chaos, that it is aggressive but at the end of the day

:07:20. > :07:23.it is going to fail, today is victory day, when the Russians

:07:24. > :07:29.celebrate their victory over Nazi Germany, there is a continuity to

:07:30. > :07:34.the story. Today's West is noted print -- no different to those other

:07:35. > :07:37.western invaders. All those who tried to invade and defeat Russia,

:07:38. > :07:41.and ultimately we defeated them. This is the narrative he wants to

:07:42. > :07:44.take into early 2018. Thank you very much, good to be with

:07:45. > :07:47.us again. Let's turn to Afghanistan. Britain has been asked

:07:48. > :07:49.by NATO to send 500 more There's been another surge

:07:50. > :07:53.in the fighting between the Taliban We should get more clarity tomorrow

:07:54. > :07:57.on what NATO is planning when the Secretary-General,

:07:58. > :07:58.Jens Stoltenberg, meets Yes there are similar reports

:07:59. > :08:04.here in Washington today that senior military advisers to President Trump

:08:05. > :08:08.are proposing sending an extra 3,000 The US Defence secretary

:08:09. > :08:12.is in Europe and was today reaffirming the administration's

:08:13. > :08:24.support for NATO. We now confront concerns from the

:08:25. > :08:30.East and threats from the South, and we're going to have to stand visible

:08:31. > :08:36.but also indivisible as we deal with these issues. I am on my way to

:08:37. > :08:42.Lithuania, where I will observe the Nato troops together under the

:08:43. > :08:47.German framework mission there. We make very clear that these problems

:08:48. > :08:53.we have between us and Russia will be solved by diplomats and no other

:08:54. > :08:59.way. When you listen to Donald Trump, he

:09:00. > :09:02.sounds as conflicted as his predecessors. The question he has to

:09:03. > :09:07.answer is how long can they go in Afghanistan, 16 years now, by most

:09:08. > :09:10.measures the country is in a stalemate. Yes, it is getting that

:09:11. > :09:13.worse but not to the extent that you see the Taliban winning all the

:09:14. > :09:16.Afghan government -- or the Afghan Afghan government -- or the Afghan

:09:17. > :09:21.government clearly failing. Questions here today about what

:09:22. > :09:25.point does the start looking like an occupation rather than a war, 16

:09:26. > :09:29.years as a long time, a lot of money and a lot of American troops. What

:09:30. > :09:36.can these 3000 troops realistically do? President Obama in 2000 and 9

:09:37. > :09:39.cents and extra 30,000 troops, and the country is not much more stable

:09:40. > :09:45.today, there has been researchers the Taliban and Islamic State moving

:09:46. > :09:48.into the country since then. 3000 troops, is that really going to make

:09:49. > :09:52.an awful lot of difference in terms of the long-term stability of the

:09:53. > :09:54.country? It is not just the Taliban, it is

:09:55. > :09:55.Islamic State as well. Another country high

:09:56. > :09:56.on President Trump's And he may not be too happy to learn

:09:57. > :10:02.the new President of South Korea is Moon Jae-in who won 41 percent

:10:03. > :10:04.of the vote. Mr Moon's parents fled the North

:10:05. > :10:06.during the Korean War. According to his autobiography,

:10:07. > :10:11.his father worked at a prisoner-of-war camp,

:10:12. > :10:13.while his mother sold eggs In the campaign Mr Moon

:10:14. > :10:16.promised to improve He has also questioned

:10:17. > :10:19.the deployment of THAAD - a US missile defence system

:10:20. > :10:21.which the US military installed in his country -

:10:22. > :10:25.and with some haste - So, will Mr Moon adopt a less

:10:26. > :10:28.confrontational approach to North Korea and will that be

:10:29. > :10:32.a problem for Mr Trump? Our Correspondent Steve Evans

:10:33. > :10:46.reports from Seoul. Moon Jae-in Congratulated on his way

:10:47. > :10:50.to victory tonight. The man taking South Korea to the left, and perhaps

:10:51. > :10:55.closer to North Korea, he wants to talk to Pyongyang. Voters have

:10:56. > :11:02.backed him by a big margin. They went to the polls in large numbers,

:11:03. > :11:06.and turnout of around 80%. The issues, the economy of course. Young

:11:07. > :11:13.people worry about jobs. And whether to confront or talk to North Korea.

:11:14. > :11:16.As a person who is going to the military in a few years, I don't

:11:17. > :11:22.want to live in a country where it is at risk of breaking out in war,

:11:23. > :11:28.army actually having to go into the war with North Korea.

:11:29. > :11:31.I'm not much different from most people, national security is the

:11:32. > :11:34.main point of concern. When the leading presidential candidate of

:11:35. > :11:40.the country is saying he wants to resume talks with North Korea, that

:11:41. > :11:43.is a concern to a lot of us. All the indications are that turnout

:11:44. > :11:46.is very high in this election. People have been galvanised by

:11:47. > :11:51.politics with the sacking of the previous president. And the issues

:11:52. > :11:57.are so big. This is not a country which is fed up with democracy. Mr

:11:58. > :12:02.Moon does not like the American anti-missile system. Just installed

:12:03. > :12:12.and South Korea. He favours increased cooperation with

:12:13. > :12:20.Pyongyang. So, we'll left of centre Moon Jae-in get on with President

:12:21. > :12:25.Trump? A new softer approach in Seoul may not please Washington.

:12:26. > :12:28.For more on the larger implications of this election we are joined now

:12:29. > :12:31.by Balbina Hwang who formerly served in the US state department

:12:32. > :12:39.Thanks very much for coming back to the programme. What do you think

:12:40. > :12:44.about the question that Stephen Evans has raised? Is this a problem

:12:45. > :12:51.for Donald Trump in his efforts to resolve the crisis in North Korea?

:12:52. > :12:59.Yes. Moon Jae-in Is a progressive and the ideological air of the

:13:00. > :13:03.previous president. And indeed, Moon Jae-in personally wants to carry on

:13:04. > :13:09.the legacy, which was to deepen ties with North Korea.

:13:10. > :13:14.Mr Moon said that South Korea should learn to say no to America. Quite a

:13:15. > :13:19.combative stance from South Korea. Yes, it is, and what is interesting

:13:20. > :13:23.is that for the last six months or so, when President Park was under

:13:24. > :13:29.the impeachment process, Moon Jae-in toned down much of his rhetoric.

:13:30. > :13:34.Clearly to try to garner wider public support. But in the last

:13:35. > :13:38.rhetoric has been very harsh against rhetoric has been very harsh against

:13:39. > :13:41.North Korea, Moon Jae-in has now been able to go back to his

:13:42. > :13:46.progressive roots and do it more openly in public.

:13:47. > :13:49.We have spoken a lot about nationalism and populism, and it

:13:50. > :13:57.looks like we have that in Mr Moon in South Korea. What happens when

:13:58. > :14:00.two nationalist populist, Moon Jae-in and Donald Trump, have to go

:14:01. > :14:06.up against each other? I don't think Moon Jae-in is a

:14:07. > :14:09.populist, and despite his win in the election, the majority of South

:14:10. > :14:14.Koreans do not support him. This was not a sign of populist, assertive

:14:15. > :14:21.populism. He did well with young people.

:14:22. > :14:24.Yes, but that is an indication that younger people are satisfied with

:14:25. > :14:28.the status quo. It is not quite populism. They want deep-seated

:14:29. > :14:30.reform. A lot of people in the States will

:14:31. > :14:35.say, we have tried the softer say, we have tried the softer

:14:36. > :14:41.approach before, it went on for ten years until 2008, and didn't work?

:14:42. > :14:47.That's exactly right. Many South That's exactly right. Many South

:14:48. > :14:51.Koreans also feel that way. But the past five years, with a much

:14:52. > :14:57.stronger stance, that also did not seem to work. Most Koreans, the

:14:58. > :15:00.North Korean issue is not the single most important issue for South

:15:01. > :15:05.Koreans. They really are stuck with the same kind of issues that we saw

:15:06. > :15:09.sweeping through France, Great Britain, even the United States.

:15:10. > :15:12.Jobs in the future, much better economy, and they won't the elites

:15:13. > :15:18.and political system not to be corrupt.

:15:19. > :15:23.What does this mean for THAAD, which has just become fully operational in

:15:24. > :15:27.South Korea? Interestingly, Moon Jae-in had

:15:28. > :15:30.started his campaign by saying he would be more moderate in his

:15:31. > :15:34.approach. But some of the mixed signals the Trump administration

:15:35. > :15:40.have sent is giving him an unison, and that may lead to trouble --

:15:41. > :15:43.ammunition. Such an interesting question, we are

:15:44. > :15:46.seeing patterns around the world. Thank you for coming in to join us.

:15:47. > :15:48.Donald Trump campaigned on the promise of getting America

:15:49. > :15:51.out of foreign conflicts - he's clearly finding that's

:15:52. > :15:54.We have already discussed tonight those reports of more US troops

:15:55. > :15:59.So, is it possible in today's world for a US president to pull back

:16:00. > :16:03.With me is one man who has seen plenty of presidents come and go.

:16:04. > :16:06.In fact many years ago he was the speechwriter for Jimmy Carter.

:16:07. > :16:08.He also wrote a book on the consequences of invading

:16:09. > :16:11.Iraq, and this summer James Fallows of the renowned US magazine

:16:12. > :16:13.The Atlantic will move here, to London, to open their first

:16:14. > :16:24.James, hello, welcome to the programme.

:16:25. > :16:30.Glad to be here. Here is a president who is America

:16:31. > :16:35.first, at once the hand is dealt, you have to go with it.

:16:36. > :16:42.It is much easier to make a campaign speech, saying out of Nafta, Nato,

:16:43. > :16:48.other entanglements, but the world is the world. Thinking Americans,

:16:49. > :16:54.however much a segment that is of the larger population, recognise

:16:55. > :16:59.that in terms of strategy, economy, education, the United States' fate

:17:00. > :17:04.is connected to the world. They have got a foot on either side

:17:05. > :17:08.of the Atlantic. But there are some tumultuous things happening, is it

:17:09. > :17:14.populism in Europe and the West that populism in Europe and the West that

:17:15. > :17:22.you have come customer? We have always had a combination of

:17:23. > :17:25.the American idea, and very serious international coverage. It has

:17:26. > :17:31.become more obvious, even than before, what is happening now in

:17:32. > :17:37.Europe, economic Lee, politically, Europe, economic Lee, politically,

:17:38. > :17:40.it matters to the entire world. We're here to expand the coverage

:17:41. > :17:47.for traditional US audience, and try to add to the mix following what the

:17:48. > :17:51.BBC has done for decades of trying to have a particular accent on

:17:52. > :17:58.explaining world affairs. Up after the Atlantic and the BBC,

:17:59. > :18:02.you are such approach! We have spoken many times, I did not know

:18:03. > :18:06.you were a pilot until I read about your tour of the United States, you

:18:07. > :18:10.piloted a small plane. You went to small towns, one of the things we

:18:11. > :18:15.saw in the US elections, in the French election, to a lesser extent

:18:16. > :18:19.during the Brexit debate, was the split between urban centres and

:18:20. > :18:22.rural areas. Was there a common thread in what people said to you

:18:23. > :18:30.during those smaller towns that made you perhaps see?

:18:31. > :18:32.There may be a difference between the US situation and continental

:18:33. > :18:38.Europe and the UK, where the narrative is the same of this divide

:18:39. > :18:45.between the bigger urban centres, New York, London, DC, and the

:18:46. > :18:47.that prevailing narrative misses a that prevailing narrative misses a

:18:48. > :18:55.lot of what's happening in the interior of America where you see

:18:56. > :19:00.the middle part of the country, a kind of Renaissance. While it is

:19:01. > :19:02.true that New York and Los Angeles have their own special things, there

:19:03. > :19:06.is more of a middle of the country is more of a middle of the country

:19:07. > :19:11.revival in the US than may be possible for reasons of scale, but

:19:12. > :19:17.part of what I want to look into in the time ahead as the situation as

:19:18. > :19:23.to what is happening on that front. I do going to be looking at the new

:19:24. > :19:31.divide between left and right, between globalist and Nationalist?

:19:32. > :19:36.The Brexit election, the recent French returns, and Trump last year,

:19:37. > :19:44.here's Brett difference has enormous consequence. The US has turned away

:19:45. > :19:47.from globalism, the Brexit result, and we see with the French result in

:19:48. > :19:52.particular people beginning to reconsider what it means to take

:19:53. > :19:56.these drastic steps. I hope, James, you're going to be a

:19:57. > :20:01.friend of the programme and talk to us some more.

:20:02. > :20:05.I have topped often with Katty Kay in DC so I will see you again.

:20:06. > :20:06.Some of the other stories. Police in Germany have arrested

:20:07. > :20:08.a second soldier suspected of planning a right-wing extremist

:20:09. > :20:11.attack on a senior public figure. It is thought the plot

:20:12. > :20:13.was to kill someone linked to Chancellor Merkel's refugee

:20:14. > :20:15.policy and frame the incident Aid agencies say that up to 250

:20:16. > :20:22.people are believed to have drowned after two boats sank

:20:23. > :20:24.in the Mediterranean in recent days. Earlier this week the Italian

:20:25. > :20:28.Coastguard said about 6000 migrants had been rescued in the space

:20:29. > :20:30.of two days. The number of people leaving Libya

:20:31. > :20:33.for Europe is up nearly 50% this year compared with the opening

:20:34. > :20:42.months of 2016. And today Russia has been

:20:43. > :20:44.celebrating Victory Day, a major holiday in which the country

:20:45. > :20:47.celebrates the Soviet Union's victory over Nazism

:20:48. > :20:50.during World War Two. A grand military parade

:20:51. > :20:52.on Moscow's Red Square Vladmir Putin gave a speech

:20:53. > :20:58.on the 72nd anniversary and assured his people

:20:59. > :21:00.that they would never Mr Putin said there had never been,

:21:01. > :21:05.nor ever would be, a power that Well, as that celebration

:21:06. > :21:17.was underway, Russia's neighbour Ukraine is hosting the annual

:21:18. > :21:22.Eurovision Song Contest, which has really become a mix

:21:23. > :21:24.of pop and politics. This year Ukraine has

:21:25. > :21:28.banned the Russian entry from entering the country -

:21:29. > :21:32.Julia Samoylova has been told she cannot attend

:21:33. > :21:54.because she performed The Russians knew that when they

:21:55. > :21:58.nominated her to be the entry, that Ukraine would not allow them into

:21:59. > :22:01.the country, so there was cynicism on Moscow's part. I like a different

:22:02. > :22:03.anniversary. Our correspondent Steve Rosenberg

:22:04. > :22:05.is Kiev, and while he's also reporting, he has taken a break

:22:06. > :22:08.to play the piano. For an hour, he took requests -

:22:09. > :22:11.offering to play all the winners from Eurovision contests

:22:12. > :22:31.from its entire 62-year history. The reason would like Only

:22:32. > :22:40.Teardrops. Let's have a go. That was 2013 in Denmark.

:22:41. > :22:48.Betty says, Puppet On A String please. That was back in 1967, 50

:22:49. > :23:01.years ago. We've got requests for Fairy tale.

:23:02. > :23:23.Let's see. That's... Someone else says she has just

:23:24. > :23:28.finished exams and is listening to this, it is a great way to

:23:29. > :23:36.de-stress. I am glad. Here's an entry from Azerbaijan.

:23:37. > :23:44.I hope you have enjoyed this little fun wok down memory lane. If you're

:23:45. > :23:48.interested in the Eurovision Song Contest, watch the first semifinal

:23:49. > :23:53.watch it on BBC Four in the UK. But watch it on BBC Four in the UK. But

:23:54. > :24:05.from me from Kiev, a very good night to you.

:24:06. > :24:10.If I was him, I would give up the day job. Have you ever seen his

:24:11. > :24:16.They are sitting around a table, and They are sitting around a table, and

:24:17. > :24:17.they are talking in Russian, because Steve talks reasonably good Russian.

:24:18. > :24:22.And suddenly the conversation breaks And suddenly the conversation breaks

:24:23. > :24:25.into an old folk song in Russian, and Steve gets out from the table,

:24:26. > :24:30.goes over to the piano and starts goes over to the piano and starts

:24:31. > :24:34.playing it. And Gorbachev joins in! Standing there with his arm on the

:24:35. > :24:38.piano, and they start singing together. If you have not seen it,

:24:39. > :24:42.go and look on the BBC website because it is there somewhere.

:24:43. > :24:49.Do you think I could try that with Donald Trump and you could try it

:24:50. > :24:54.with trees are made? -- Theresa May. I am tone deaf, though, so you

:24:55. > :24:56.really do not want to be singing anywhere near this programme unless

:24:57. > :25:01.you want to totally kill the ratings! I love that, though, I

:25:02. > :25:06.tuned in last year and they get completely addicted to it. Thousands

:25:07. > :25:10.of people watching that Facebook. Rather him than me, is all I can

:25:11. > :25:15.say. How does he know all of that stuff? Isn't he busy?

:25:16. > :25:20.He will have to learn a new song again in the next few weeks. And put

:25:21. > :25:22.it to memory. I will have to pull your way from

:25:23. > :25:25.the Eurovision Song Contest, just before we go, US officials are

:25:26. > :25:29.saying they do not expect the election and South Korea to make a

:25:30. > :25:32.big difference in relations, but they think it could introduce a

:25:33. > :25:34.little bit of volatility. Coming to us out of the White House from South

:25:35. > :25:38.Korea. That's back on South Korea. You're watching

:25:39. > :25:40.100 Days+ from BBC News. Still to come for viewers on the BBC

:25:41. > :25:43.News Channel and BBC World News - we will look at the Sally Yates

:25:44. > :25:46.testimony before Congress and examine exactly who knew

:25:47. > :25:48.what information about Russian connections to members

:25:49. > :25:50.of the Trump administration. And the British Prime Minister sits

:25:51. > :25:52.down for an interview What kind of political

:25:53. > :25:55.currency can be gained That's still to come on 100

:25:56. > :26:16.Days+, from BBC News. The weather is looking really good

:26:17. > :26:23.tomorrow, lots of sunshine on the way. The thickened stub unploughed

:26:24. > :26:24.is now in the process of shrinking. More of us tomorrow will have the

:26:25. > :26:29.clear blue skies. Very few of clear blue skies. Very few of us

:26:30. > :26:36.will be stuck underneath the grey skies. With the clearing skies this

:26:37. > :26:46.evening, also comes a very chilly night. Here is the forecast over the

:26:47. > :26:51.next few hours. Hardly a cloud in the sky, the far north of Scotland,

:26:52. > :26:54.some spots of rain. These are city temperatures, right in the middle of

:26:55. > :27:00.town, outside of town and rural areas, it could only be to degrees

:27:01. > :27:04.above freezing. We start on a beautiful sunny note, right across

:27:05. > :27:07.the country, again in the North we will have thicker cloud and maybe

:27:08. > :27:12.some spots of rain for Orkney, for example. From the lowland southwards

:27:13. > :27:18.it is stunning in the afternoon. Temperatures here in the mid-to high

:27:19. > :27:22.teens, there might be fair weather cloud, but that is pretty much it.

:27:23. > :27:27.Beautiful weather across Wales, the South West, right across the Channel

:27:28. > :27:32.temperatures in London getting up temperatures in London getting up

:27:33. > :27:38.into the high teens. The winds will be very light as well, the sudden

:27:39. > :27:42.strong. There is a potential of burning in the strong sunshine of

:27:43. > :27:46.course. Be careful. On Thursday the weather starts to change,

:27:47. > :27:50.low-pressure swinging in from the south, that means increasing amounts

:27:51. > :27:57.of cloud. These showers which are drifting in from the south, but with

:27:58. > :28:01.that comes quite my DS. Humidity, and temperatures may get up to

:28:02. > :28:06.around 19-20. Further north, more sunshine on the way. Quite a mixed

:28:07. > :28:11.bag on Friday across the UK. There could be some thunderstorms and

:28:12. > :28:15.downpours. Very hit and miss, across southern, central and northern areas

:28:16. > :28:22.as well. Quite muggy across central parts. Temperatures moving closer to

:28:23. > :28:25.20 degrees. The weekend is pretty mixed, fairly breezy, relatively

:28:26. > :28:26.warm, at further showers are on the way with a bit of sunshine from time

:28:27. > :30:10.to time as well. Welcome back to One Hundred Days

:30:11. > :30:12.Plus, I'm Katty Kay in Washington - America's National Security Agency

:30:13. > :30:20.warned France that it was being an appearance in the election

:30:21. > :30:27.campaign - Philip is the man described

:30:28. > :30:41.as the prime minister's rock. I never heard her say she wanted to

:30:42. > :30:42.be Prime Minister until she was quite established in the Shadow

:30:43. > :30:47.Cabinet. Donald Trump's former national

:30:48. > :30:50.security advisor Michael Flynn was vulnerable to Russian blackmail

:30:51. > :30:53.- that stunning assertion came yesterday from the former acting

:30:54. > :30:56.attorney general Sally Yates. She told Congress she warned

:30:57. > :30:59.the White House they had With each new revelation

:31:00. > :31:03.there is a little more intrigue, more detail and great many more

:31:04. > :31:06.questions about why Mr Trump hired Flynn in the first place, and why,

:31:07. > :31:21.after he was warned about him, We were not the only ones that knew

:31:22. > :31:28.all this. That the Russians also knew about what general Flynn had

:31:29. > :31:32.done and the Russians also knew that General Flynn had misled the vice

:31:33. > :31:36.president and others because in the media accounts it was clear from the

:31:37. > :31:40.vice president and others they were repeating what general Flynn had

:31:41. > :31:44.told them and this was a problem because not only did we believe that

:31:45. > :31:50.the Russians knew this but they likely had proof of this

:31:51. > :31:52.information. And that created a compromise situation where the

:31:53. > :32:01.national security adviser essentially could be blackmailed by

:32:02. > :32:06.the Russians. And it has also emerged that when Obama was in

:32:07. > :32:10.office he warned against hiring general Flynn. That advice was

:32:11. > :32:13.ignored. Just days after Donald Trump had been elected Michael Flynn

:32:14. > :32:20.was named as national security adviser.

:32:21. > :32:22.On the 18th November, just days after Trump had been elected,

:32:23. > :32:24.Michael Flynn was named as the National Security Adviser.

:32:25. > :32:26.On the 29th December, Gen Flynn phoned the Russian

:32:27. > :32:30.That same day President Obama was announcing new sanctions on Russia.

:32:31. > :32:33.AND For the next month, Trump's press secretary and his vice

:32:34. > :32:35.president were insisting that sanctions had not been

:32:36. > :32:38.But the acting attorney general, Sally Yates, told the hearing

:32:39. > :32:40.yesterday she had warned White House Counsel on 26th January

:32:41. > :32:42.about her concerns that General Flynn had misled

:32:43. > :32:45.On 9th February the Washington Post broke the story

:32:46. > :32:54.that Flynn and Kislyak HAD discussed sanctions.

:32:55. > :32:57.Four days later - and maybe only because the Washington Post had

:32:58. > :32:58.published its investigation - General Flynn resigned

:32:59. > :33:02.That was 18 days after White House Councel Don McGahn

:33:03. > :33:16.Jon Sobel is here. Your chairman of the board of a major company, you

:33:17. > :33:19.find out your CEO has made a personal mistake even though he had

:33:20. > :33:24.warnings about the person he was appointing. Would he not be fired?

:33:25. > :33:30.That CEO would be in a lot of trouble and there would questions

:33:31. > :33:33.about their judgment. If they reach the conclusion that they could just

:33:34. > :33:37.ride it out. That is why the story has not gone away because of our

:33:38. > :33:42.questions. What happened in that 18 day period. The way that Sean Spicer

:33:43. > :33:47.is trying to handle the briefing, which is still going on just now at

:33:48. > :33:51.the White House, is to say we had to verify the facts and clear the

:33:52. > :33:55.paperwork and then do due diligence and by that time 18 days have

:33:56. > :34:03.elapsed. That is one scenario. The other is that as you hinted at,

:34:04. > :34:08.perhaps Donald Trump made the calculation that we could ride this

:34:09. > :34:11.out, he wanted to remain loyal to Mike Flynn and still seems to want

:34:12. > :34:15.to remain loyal to him. And therefore the best way to do that is

:34:16. > :34:20.just see if it all goes away quietly. The decisive change was

:34:21. > :34:24.that it was suddenly in the public domain and the 11th commandment of

:34:25. > :34:27.politics had been infringed, thou shalt not get called. It raises

:34:28. > :34:33.questions about the management capacity of this White House, that

:34:34. > :34:47.such a serious personal decision was made

:34:48. > :34:51.and we should remind viewers that the national security adviser sits

:34:52. > :34:54.just yards from the present, he sees him the whole time and has access to

:34:55. > :34:56.the top secrets in the US. And yet there have been warnings about that

:34:57. > :34:59.individual, specific warnings. And prior, just after the election I had

:35:00. > :35:01.sat in a room with people saying he cannot appoint Flynn. Everyone who

:35:02. > :35:03.knew the national security apparatus, who had been part of the

:35:04. > :35:10.past administration and also people from the outside said no, not

:35:11. > :35:13.national security adviser. Donald Trump was determined that this

:35:14. > :35:17.person who had been with him, who lent credibility during the campaign

:35:18. > :35:23.when no one else would, would be rewarded. The other point about the

:35:24. > :35:26.national Security adviser is it is not like the appointment of a

:35:27. > :35:30.Secretary of State for Defence secretary which must be approved by

:35:31. > :35:32.the Senate, it is the personal gift of the President, there's no

:35:33. > :35:38.congressional process for his approval. We are discussing how the

:35:39. > :35:43.president emerges from this but what about the Republican senators and

:35:44. > :35:48.congressmen because just to look at Sean Spicer here, he is trying to

:35:49. > :35:52.say Sally Yates was a strong Clinton supporter so trying to diminish her

:35:53. > :35:55.role. And then the Republicans yesterday seemingly more concerned

:35:56. > :35:59.that Sally Yates had not approved the travel ban or the leaking of

:36:00. > :36:04.information. They did not seem concerned that the NSA was

:36:05. > :36:09.compromised. Well it was funny, listening to the whole hearing as I

:36:10. > :36:13.did, it was like they were two different agendas, two different

:36:14. > :36:18.investigations going on. For the Democrats the investigation into

:36:19. > :36:22.Mike Flynn, what he knew, was compromised and if, from the

:36:23. > :36:27.Republicans on the enquiry, how was he unmasks, who did it, where did

:36:28. > :36:31.the leaks come from. So you have a very different, polarised political

:36:32. > :36:37.agenda that took place at the enquiry. Just to add one thing which

:36:38. > :36:41.I find fascinating, maybe it is nothing but in this first 100 days

:36:42. > :36:44.we've had Donald Trump seven times per day in front of the cameras

:36:45. > :36:49.during the summer that, signing this document, meeting that particular

:36:50. > :36:53.group, and in the last couple of days we have not seen him. We're

:36:54. > :36:56.told is because it is preparing for his trip in the next week to the

:36:57. > :36:59.Middle East and to the Middle East and Europe. But it seems strange.

:37:00. > :37:11.Just saying! With the election campaign

:37:12. > :37:13.in the UK hotting up, and you'd expect the UK

:37:14. > :37:15.Prime Minister Theresa May to be doing the rounds

:37:16. > :37:17.of media interviews. She is certainly doing

:37:18. > :37:19.plenty of travelling. But a short while ago,

:37:20. > :37:22.she gave an interview - to the BBC - unlike any other she's done

:37:23. > :37:25.in her 20 years as a politician. It was the first time

:37:26. > :37:27.that Theresa May - regarded as a very private person -

:37:28. > :37:30.agreed to be interviewed The couple spoke to

:37:31. > :37:44.the BBC's One Show. Politicians have a major

:37:45. > :37:48.responsibility spin doctors brought into the mix, have you ever been in

:37:49. > :37:54.a situation where you have given into spin doctors? The way I

:37:55. > :37:58.approach politics is to me I am going out asking people to vote for

:37:59. > :38:03.me, to put their trust in me so I think is important that I'm open

:38:04. > :38:07.with them and tell it as is. When I'm addressing them. But we've had

:38:08. > :38:13.an experience of fake news. Way back when I was being selected for a

:38:14. > :38:17.seat. One newspaper reported that I would have troubled to be selected

:38:18. > :38:21.to fight a seat as a conservative because of my new baby. We did not

:38:22. > :38:27.have a baby. And we did not think any more of it until the afternoon

:38:28. > :38:30.my mother-in-law telephone. She thought there was something we had

:38:31. > :38:39.not told her. So she was disappointed. Let's go back to the

:38:40. > :38:44.beginning and you spoke about your mother-in-law, you were the daughter

:38:45. > :38:47.of a vicar, a very solid upbringing. Was there any chance that he would

:38:48. > :38:51.have rebelled -- that you would have rebelled at all, or the values that

:38:52. > :38:55.were instilled then are they the values that you've taken forward

:38:56. > :39:02.with you? I think they are. There were several things, being brought

:39:03. > :39:07.up in a big rich, you get to meet a whole range of different people from

:39:08. > :39:10.all types of backgrounds. One of the things my father taught me is that

:39:11. > :39:14.you should take people as you find them and not have any preconceptions

:39:15. > :39:20.about people. And treat everyone equally. That was an important

:39:21. > :39:24.lesson I had. But life in the vicarage of course is different. You

:39:25. > :39:33.get so many people coming in to see you. And your father was a shoe

:39:34. > :39:38.salesman? Yes, he worked for the footwear company for the whole of

:39:39. > :39:41.his career, as people did in those days. Joint in the late 1940s and

:39:42. > :39:45.carried on until retirement. Joining us from New York is Theresa

:39:46. > :39:56.May's biographer - Rosa Prince. You have written a book about the

:39:57. > :40:01.Prime Minister, you've seen the background perhaps more than anyone

:40:02. > :40:06.else. How important has still been in her life? He is hugely important

:40:07. > :40:11.to have. It is interesting because he is important both politically and

:40:12. > :40:16.personally. Theresa May was an only child, brought up in the vicarage as

:40:17. > :40:22.she said. But her parents died when she was very young, just 23 and not

:40:23. > :40:25.long married to fellow. So she really has had a family of two

:40:26. > :40:30.because as you know as well the couples do not have children. So

:40:31. > :40:34.just the two of them for all those years and they really sustain each

:40:35. > :40:38.other. On a personal level he's very supportive, he is always there, they

:40:39. > :40:43.are close couple. But he takes an interest in politics and is one of

:40:44. > :40:48.her closest advisers on politics as well. From everything to policy to

:40:49. > :40:52.her strategy, what should she call the election for example, he is

:40:53. > :40:55.therefore have so by far and away the most important person in her

:40:56. > :41:02.life. Perhaps even more than most spouses. A bit of a cliche but he is

:41:03. > :41:08.her rock. During the interview on the One Show Philip inadvertently

:41:09. > :41:12.perhaps revealed that Theresa May has been thinking of becoming Prime

:41:13. > :41:16.Minister for the past seven years when she was in the Shadow Cabinet,

:41:17. > :41:22.she first thought about it come he said. Not the story that we heard up

:41:23. > :41:26.until now. It is not what she says but actually when I was doing the

:41:27. > :41:31.biography I found, she's been saying she wants to be Prime Minister from

:41:32. > :41:35.she was a little girl. From before she was an MP is used is said to

:41:36. > :41:41.people University, one of her cousin said he heard her, tape recording of

:41:42. > :41:45.her saying that when she was a teenager. So I think he's been a bit

:41:46. > :41:48.disingenuous just to let slip that it has only been seven years. I

:41:49. > :41:53.think she has always wanted to be Prime Minister and perhaps she has

:41:54. > :42:01.learnt as she got older to be more settled spec about it. --

:42:02. > :42:05.circumspect. I think she is harboured ambitions for a very long

:42:06. > :42:09.time and I think he is pleased that he has been able to help her along

:42:10. > :42:16.the way. Thank you very much for being with us. I just wonder how

:42:17. > :42:21.much this helps if you are electioneering, having your partner

:42:22. > :42:24.alongside you. Do you get a boost from that? It is such an interesting

:42:25. > :42:28.question, the role of the political spouse. Here in the US there are

:42:29. > :42:31.questions about whether Melania Trump is engaged enough, she does

:42:32. > :42:36.not live in the White House, should she be more of a conventional first

:42:37. > :42:43.Lady. I do not know if it is the difference between the fact that she

:42:44. > :42:46.is a wife and Philip as a husband, but he seems to have managed so far

:42:47. > :42:50.to keep pretty much below the radar or maybe it is just that we do not

:42:51. > :42:52.expect as much in the UK from our Prime Minister's spouses as the

:42:53. > :42:58.Americans do from the person living in the White House. Perhaps that is

:42:59. > :43:06.the role, we do not tend to have a first lady. But there is a lot of

:43:07. > :43:10.interest in Brigitte Macron. That is in France of course. Thank you very

:43:11. > :43:21.much for watching. Goodbye.