:01:14. > :01:56.The choice is going to be made on Thursday. Twice the president...
:01:57. > :01:58.As we mentioned one of the three terrorists involved in Saturday
:01:59. > :02:01.night's attack, Khuram Butt had twice been reported to police.
:02:02. > :02:06.In fact he'd appeared in a Channel 4 documentary last year,
:02:07. > :02:08.Welcome to 100 Days Plus - I'm Katty Kay in Washington.
:02:09. > :02:11.Christian Fraser is in London where British police have just
:02:12. > :02:13.released the identities of two of the men involved
:02:14. > :02:16.One, Khuram Butt, was a British citizen, born in Pakistan.
:02:17. > :02:18.Police say he was known to the authorities.
:02:19. > :02:20.Another, Rachid Redouane, claimed to be of Moroccan
:02:21. > :02:22.and Libyan decent - he was not previously
:02:23. > :02:25.They were both shot dead during the attacks.
:02:26. > :02:27.Both lived in Barking in east London.
:02:28. > :02:29.Police say they are still working to confirm all
:02:30. > :02:33.It does appear that in the case of both Manchester and these London
:02:34. > :02:36.attacks, members of the community had raised concerns about some
:02:37. > :02:39.of the men involved - and it seems those warnings may have
:02:40. > :02:43.Tonight London paused to reflect.In the past hour a vigil and a minute's
:02:44. > :02:45.silence was held near London Bridge evening in solidarity
:02:46. > :02:48.Lets cross to Ros Atkins who is close to Borough Market.
:02:49. > :02:52.Let's cross to Ros Atkins who is close to Borough Market.
:02:53. > :03:05.The investigation is moving quickly. What do we know? We have been given
:03:06. > :03:07.a limited amount of information by the police. One man has been named
:03:08. > :03:37.as Khuram Butt. Adds Moroccan heritage. He went by a
:03:38. > :03:41.different name. Both men were living in Barking. Yesterday we saw a rest
:03:42. > :03:51.there and today they have been more raids. That part of London is very
:03:52. > :03:55.much the focus. And the Prime Minister has said today that we are
:03:56. > :04:04.dealing with the new reality. Some big questions for the next
:04:05. > :04:08.government about multiculturalism. On one side we have had arguments
:04:09. > :04:12.about what happened in the past. Theresa May before she became Prime
:04:13. > :04:16.Minister was Home Secretary for a number of years. She oversaw
:04:17. > :04:19.significant cuts to the number of police. On one hand there was an
:04:20. > :04:23.argument about whether those cuts were inappropriate. The Prime
:04:24. > :04:27.Minister said absolutely not, it's about the kind of policing that is
:04:28. > :04:32.done, not just the numbers. While that has been going on, there has
:04:33. > :04:42.been a discussion about the kind of policing that is needed by the new
:04:43. > :04:53.government. The Prime Minister has tried to outlined what they will do
:04:54. > :04:59.if they form the next government. But have you heard about the claims
:05:00. > :05:02.that community members both in the case of Manchester and London
:05:03. > :05:07.reported concerns about some of these individuals and that those
:05:08. > :05:13.concerns were not heeded? You are right. In Manchester there have been
:05:14. > :05:28.multiple reports that someone a baby have been reported to hotlines. --
:05:29. > :05:33.Salman Abedi. One of the community leaders also said that he was aware
:05:34. > :05:37.that one of the attackers on Saturday was being radicalised. The
:05:38. > :05:43.counter that will come from the authorities is that they are getting
:05:44. > :05:47.a lot of information at one time. Even if they are aware of somebody,
:05:48. > :05:52.it's not realistic for every person of interest to be monitored for 24
:05:53. > :05:59.hours a day. Nonetheless, the pressing questions about not just
:06:00. > :06:03.how the authorities go about inviting information from the
:06:04. > :06:08.public, but what they do to it. This all really is for the new government
:06:09. > :06:12.to wrestle with. We have had this phrase a new reality expressed today
:06:13. > :06:15.and the challenges for the police and for which of the government
:06:16. > :06:23.takes over to fashion a new response to the reality. Despite everyone's
:06:24. > :06:29.'s efforts at the current response hasn't been able to stop three
:06:30. > :06:35.serious attacks in three months. Thank you very much. Doing the
:06:36. > :06:39.visual jun the last hour this is what the Mayor of London had to
:06:40. > :06:46.save. London stands in defiance against this cowardly attack on our
:06:47. > :06:56.city, our people, our values and our way of life. As the Mayor of London,
:06:57. > :07:04.I want to send a clear message to the sick and evil extremists who
:07:05. > :07:27.commit these hideous crimes. We will defeat you. You will not win.
:07:28. > :07:40.And as a proud and page will take British Muslim I say this. You do
:07:41. > :07:45.not commit these disgusting acts in my name. Sadiq on speaking in London
:07:46. > :07:48.at the vigil to remember those who were killed and those who are still
:07:49. > :07:56.in hospital. Let me pick up on the point that Ross was making that
:07:57. > :08:02.Jeremy Corbyn has criticised the Prime Minister about policing
:08:03. > :08:07.levels. What is the reality? Is Jeremy Corbyn right that Theresa May
:08:08. > :08:13.is responsible for less policing to deal with situations like this? He
:08:14. > :08:22.is right. If you look at the figures they were just over 122,000 police
:08:23. > :08:28.officers in the UK in September. That is just under 22,000 less than
:08:29. > :08:33.in 2010. There has been a drop of around 13%. These figures for
:08:34. > :08:37.England and Wales. She would say and she has said today in response and
:08:38. > :08:45.it is a difficult issue for her because she was for 60 of the Home
:08:46. > :08:51.and she was in charge of counterterrorism budgets. She says
:08:52. > :08:53.that they are funding counterterrorism budgets and they
:08:54. > :08:58.are increasing the number of armed officers. But the threat has changed
:08:59. > :09:06.and what a lot of senior police officers are saying around the
:09:07. > :09:09.country and the commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Caicedo Dicker
:09:10. > :09:14.said the same is that what we are seeing from the Manchester attack
:09:15. > :09:25.and these attacks that they were home-grown citizens. You do need
:09:26. > :09:36.police officers, beat bobbies as we call them in the UK, out on the
:09:37. > :09:42.streets, talking to Muslim leaders and the Muslim community. It's not
:09:43. > :09:49.about just having the staff is about having the right staff of the job.
:09:50. > :09:56.When those members of the community make complaints, they need to be
:09:57. > :10:01.listened to. One of the attackers, Khuram Butt had been reported twice
:10:02. > :10:09.to the abilities. He also appeared in a documentary. It was thought
:10:10. > :10:13.that he was watching hate videos on YouTube.
:10:14. > :10:23.Khuram Butt at 27 the father of two young children. He worked on the
:10:24. > :10:27.London underground before turning to Islamic extremism. To my police
:10:28. > :10:37.around his home. Here, he was well-known and well liked. My kids
:10:38. > :10:49.just love to play with him. His neighbour says she feels falls. I
:10:50. > :10:55.was blind. It is scary. Our children are always playing here. Benjamin
:10:56. > :11:00.Joe would say hello to his neighbour, even on the date of the
:11:01. > :11:08.attack. Yes, I remember I saw him. What was he like? Very quiet. What
:11:09. > :11:15.was he wearing? An Arsenal T-shirt. Was he, when he saw him on Saturday?
:11:16. > :11:21.Yes, he was calm. He was part in the middle of the road. We thought he
:11:22. > :11:32.was moving out. Michael watched the London attacker with another man in
:11:33. > :11:37.a white van. I saw him about 630. What was the fan doing? It screeched
:11:38. > :11:50.up. It was speeded up and then breaking? No, it was just breaking
:11:51. > :11:58.on the bend. He wanted women to wear hijabs. This man did not want to
:11:59. > :12:04.show his face. He asked us to protect his identity. He will talk
:12:05. > :12:10.about Syria and Afghanistan. He talked about them getting bombed. He
:12:11. > :12:15.said they would debate Syria, Iraq and Islamic State. Was jihad
:12:16. > :12:20.important to him? It was really important to him? Do you think he
:12:21. > :12:29.was trying to radicalise you? I'm not sure. I would want to do that
:12:30. > :12:32.kind of thing. Khuram Butt, responsible for seven innocent
:12:33. > :12:39.deaths and today more raids, more searches to get to the truth of
:12:40. > :12:41.those behind the London attacks. Ed Thomas, BBC News, Barking.
:12:42. > :12:43.The Prevent strategy is one of the government's tools
:12:44. > :12:47.It is supposed to build links between the police,
:12:48. > :12:49.faith leaders, teachers, doctors, anyone in the community
:12:50. > :12:52.In 2015/16 there were 7,500 referrals - around 20 a day
:12:53. > :12:55.and out of those referrals, action was taken in one
:12:56. > :12:58.Joining us live now from Belfast is Jim Gamble.
:12:59. > :13:12.He's a former head of counter-terrorism in the city.
:13:13. > :13:16.It seems particularly when terrorists are going to be
:13:17. > :13:22.home-grown terrorists as we have seen the last three attacks in the
:13:23. > :13:26.UK police is going to have to rely increasingly on communities to flag
:13:27. > :13:30.up cases like this. What happens when those flags aren't watched?
:13:31. > :13:36.What happens when the warnings aren't heeded? When the warning
:13:37. > :13:39.comes in its about a credible intelligence assessment. We talk
:13:40. > :13:45.about intelligence led policing which needs to be intelligent in
:13:46. > :13:49.itself. It's not an easy job. Our police and intelligence services
:13:50. > :13:55.have been doing a great job. There is evidence of that. As others have
:13:56. > :13:58.said, these terrorists are having to resort to whether they can find in
:13:59. > :14:04.the kitchen and weapons they can find on the road. They are not
:14:05. > :14:11.getting access to explosives. There has been success and we should not
:14:12. > :14:18.ignore that. The problem with engaging a community and engaging
:14:19. > :14:23.communities is that we have lost a lot of police officers, bobbies on
:14:24. > :14:26.the beat. People need to feel understood and respected in the
:14:27. > :14:35.community and that mutual respect creates to wait -- two-way
:14:36. > :14:41.communication. Theresa May oversaw these cuts and the manner in which
:14:42. > :14:45.she did it was particularly difficult. Police warned that these
:14:46. > :14:49.cuts were too deep and she derided them by saying they were crying
:14:50. > :14:54.wolf. I think there is something about that coming home to roost and
:14:55. > :14:58.real leaders need to stand up and be counted and admit the errors they
:14:59. > :15:04.have made as they move forward. Some will say that the police are making
:15:05. > :15:11.use of the powers they. The are the new control orders. It means the
:15:12. > :15:16.authorities can put suspects under arrest for up to two years. There
:15:17. > :15:22.are supposedly 3000 people who are suspicious in the UK and only seven,
:15:23. > :15:26.seven of these orders are in place. That highlights the difficulty. We
:15:27. > :15:29.are talking about large numbers of people and the police will have a
:15:30. > :15:33.number of tactics, but when you get to the point when a person has been
:15:34. > :15:37.radicalise, it is much more difficult. The police did a
:15:38. > :15:42.fantastic job, arriving within eight minutes and even with those deadly
:15:43. > :15:48.circumstances. The investments that make a difference... But if they are
:15:49. > :15:53.under pressure, why aren't they using more of the control orders? I
:15:54. > :15:57.don't have sufficient insight into contemporary policing to give you
:15:58. > :16:00.reasonable feedback Van Eijden wanted to mean decried the tactics
:16:01. > :16:06.that are being used. What we need to see is greater investment in police
:16:07. > :16:10.resources, that's not just about numbers, it's about technology and
:16:11. > :16:16.the way they crunch data, partnerships within the community.
:16:17. > :16:21.You cannot do that without investigating. The partnerships
:16:22. > :16:26.include health, local authorities, schools and others because social
:16:27. > :16:30.workers, help and schools see some of those mental health issues that
:16:31. > :16:35.make young people more vulnerable. Many of the Prevent cases I have
:16:36. > :16:38.seen have been young people with critical mental health issues to
:16:39. > :16:42.become more vulnerable and susceptible to radicalisation by the
:16:43. > :16:46.criminal elements who will use that vulnerability to their own cruel
:16:47. > :16:50.ends. Thank you for joining us. This is clearly a conjugated issue and
:16:51. > :16:52.the solutions will be complicated and take time.
:16:53. > :16:54.Donald Trump has had plenty to say on the weekend attacks.
:16:55. > :16:57.Some would say he has had far too much to say.
:16:58. > :17:00.One of his targets on social media has been the Mayor
:17:01. > :17:08."At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London
:17:09. > :17:10.says there is "no reason to be alarmed!"
:17:11. > :17:12.In fact, he took the Mayor out of context.
:17:13. > :17:15.What Mr Khan had actually said was that there will be more armed
:17:16. > :17:18.police on the streets and citizens had "no reason to be alarmed".
:17:19. > :17:20.However, undeterred, the President dug in -
:17:21. > :17:30."Pathetic excuse by London Mayor Sadiq Khan who had to think
:17:31. > :17:35.fast on his "no reason to be alarmed" statement.
:17:36. > :17:45.All of this understandably went down very badly in the UK.
:17:46. > :17:47.And lots of people here in the US aren't happy either.
:17:48. > :17:49.Here's the reaction from Jennifer Rubin,
:17:50. > :17:53.One is prompted to ask if he is off his rocker.
:17:54. > :17:55.But this is vintage Trump - impulsive and cruel,
:17:56. > :18:07.without an ounce of class or human decency."
:18:08. > :18:13.There are people here who are asking questions about the appropriateness
:18:14. > :18:20.of the President's action to a country that is one of America's
:18:21. > :18:23.siss allies. He has a long history of confrontation with Sadiq Khan.
:18:24. > :18:30.During the course of the campaign the mayor criticised Donald Trump
:18:31. > :18:34.for the travel ban against Muslims. As we know, Mr Trump bears grudges
:18:35. > :18:37.and you have to wonder whether some of this is personal, whether he is
:18:38. > :18:43.deliberately going after the mayor because of his relationship with him
:18:44. > :18:51.in the past. What I can't understand about his series of tweets is that
:18:52. > :18:54.he also retweets his tweets. He is the commander-in-chief who has
:18:55. > :18:59.access to the best intelligence in the world, you can pick up the phone
:19:00. > :19:04.and speak to the Prime Minister, but for some reason he is retweeting a
:19:05. > :19:10.report. He's done it before, on the Philippines issue. He said, this has
:19:11. > :19:15.been terrorism. The Philippines police said it was not terrorism.
:19:16. > :19:19.This is causing bad will in the UK and people are fed up and angry with
:19:20. > :19:24.the reaction of the President to a city that is grieving and suffering
:19:25. > :19:27.terrorism and having to do with it. It's not seen as helpful by many
:19:28. > :19:34.people here in the States. He is also using the London attacks to
:19:35. > :19:38.justify his Executive order to restrict immigration from six mainly
:19:39. > :19:44.Muslim countries. This was another one of his tweets. He said that
:19:45. > :19:51.people can call it what they want, but I'm calling it what it is, a
:19:52. > :19:54.travel ban. This will help the president. This is now going to the
:19:55. > :19:59.Supreme Court. They are good to talk about this and not many weeks ago
:20:00. > :20:01.the White House press secretary Sean Spicer was chastising what he called
:20:02. > :20:13.the fake may differ using that very same term.
:20:14. > :20:19.This is not a mosque in ban or a travel ban, it is a vetting system
:20:20. > :20:22.to keep America safe. That is it, plain and simple. All of the facts
:20:23. > :20:31.and reading of it clearly show that that is what it is. Courts that have
:20:32. > :20:35.ruled against this ban has said that the president is intending to ban
:20:36. > :20:38.muslins and they are judging that from these statements in the
:20:39. > :20:44.campaign. There is a precedent here and that is why they felt they could
:20:45. > :20:48.overturn his band, but now he is still saying it is a travel ban and
:20:49. > :20:52.this is going before the Supreme Court, does it give ammunition to
:20:53. > :20:56.the Supreme Court to say there is an intention here to ban muslins and
:20:57. > :21:01.that is not constitutionally acceptable? One very wise lawyer has
:21:02. > :21:04.said to me that actually the president wants his band to be
:21:05. > :21:08.overturned so he can say look, the American courts are against me.
:21:09. > :21:11.Because that's what you keep telling me. Most of his problems are
:21:12. > :21:15.self-inflicted and a lot of the people who have come out and spoken
:21:16. > :21:20.for him today, Kelly and Conway has come out, they said that we
:21:21. > :21:28.shouldn't pay attention to his Twitter feed. But he hasn't given an
:21:29. > :21:40.interview for three weeks so we will pay attention to it. We should
:21:41. > :21:46.perhaps stop calling them presidential tweets and we should
:21:47. > :21:50.call them presidential statements. I'm joined now by Robin Wright.
:21:51. > :21:54.Thank you for coming in to join me. When you look at what has happened
:21:55. > :21:58.in London and you look at the scale of the response to it, what are we
:21:59. > :22:04.learning about how we are going to deal with this threat in Europe
:22:05. > :22:10.because it's not going away, is it? No. There are a number of trends
:22:11. > :22:16.that have emerged. You see the proliferation of amateurs. They are
:22:17. > :22:21.self recruited, self empowered, self weaponised. They are not the whole
:22:22. > :22:27.core experience professionals like the PLO or the red B great. It's
:22:28. > :22:35.very difficult for law enforcement to try to keep track of them. It
:22:36. > :22:42.makes it more difficult. There is also the fact that whilst terrorism
:22:43. > :22:51.was far more prolific in the 70s and 80s, today it is deadly. Between
:22:52. > :22:57.1970 and 2015, there were no deaths in 53% of terrorist attacks. That
:22:58. > :23:02.increased with the rise of ices. Now you are seeing far deadlier attacks
:23:03. > :23:09.and far more being killed in each attack. As the Prime Minister
:23:10. > :23:11.Theresa May said, terrorism is evolving and their actions are
:23:12. > :23:16.evolving as well. But other things you talked about was the cyber
:23:17. > :23:21.component of this. She was critical social media companies and said they
:23:22. > :23:29.should do more to help clamp down on Islamist extremists and radicalism.
:23:30. > :23:32.Can they do more? The problem is that in the United States we have
:23:33. > :23:37.the first Amendment which guarantees the freedom of speech. You get into
:23:38. > :23:42.tricky legal and constitutional issues. How much can a government
:23:43. > :23:45.said to social media... The clamp-down on child pornography and
:23:46. > :23:51.now it's hard to find it. You have a deep net and whether or not it is
:23:52. > :23:55.telegram, which is how a lot of these European groups communicate
:23:56. > :24:01.through cryptic messages, it is hard to keep up with them. They are much
:24:02. > :24:06.more sophisticated than they were. How much are we prepared to give up
:24:07. > :24:13.in terms of freedom to have security? Robin has touched on the
:24:14. > :24:16.question I was going to ours. They have moved further into the
:24:17. > :24:25.darkness. They are now using telegram. You close down one area of
:24:26. > :24:36.Internet of a move somewhere else. Exactly and if you look at online
:24:37. > :24:40.publications, you BC that they forecast, they instruct their
:24:41. > :24:44.followers what to do, whether it's driving cars into crowds, using
:24:45. > :24:56.machetes to slice people up, there was a new issue that came out last
:24:57. > :25:00.month about mass hostagetaking and slowly killing people. There are a
:25:01. > :25:07.whole string of actions that are prevalent on the web. It's harder
:25:08. > :25:12.for countries like Britain in the United States to figure out how to
:25:13. > :25:18.stop them when you can't find them. Thank you for joining us. When
:25:19. > :25:23.Theresa May says enough is enough, what does that actually mean. Yes,
:25:24. > :25:27.she's good how to answer that question over the next two or three
:25:28. > :25:32.days. Shinnie stance it or she might be out of a job. Who knows. Jeremy
:25:33. > :25:45.Corbyn says she needs to resign. I thought that was the point. When you
:25:46. > :25:54.call an election, you effectively resign, but will have to wait and
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