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:00:10. > :00:11.Hello and welcome to One Hundred Days Plus.

:00:12. > :00:15.In two days, Brits will vote in an election that was never

:00:16. > :00:18.With just over one day of campaigning left,

:00:19. > :00:22.this is a real contest with unpredictable results.

:00:23. > :00:24.With the race tight, both Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn

:00:25. > :00:30.are in their final push with their final appeals to voters.

:00:31. > :00:36.Every vote for me and the Conservatives is a vote to

:00:37. > :00:41.strengthen my hand in those Brexit negotiations. People are determined

:00:42. > :00:45.to show that this election can be won by Labour.

:00:46. > :00:50.a third attacker is named and there are more questions about

:00:51. > :00:56.Also it's another day of Donald Trump taking to Twitter.

:00:57. > :00:59.The President weighs in on the escalating Qatar crisis -

:01:00. > :01:02.saying that isolating the country could be the beginning of the end

:01:03. > :01:09.A US Government contractor leaks a top-secret document from the NSA

:01:10. > :01:11.and it promptly arrested - we'll look at the content

:01:12. > :01:23.Hello, I am Katty Kay in Washington, Christian Fraser is in London.

:01:24. > :01:27.Brits go to the polls in just over 24 hours and an election

:01:28. > :01:29.that was all about Brexit has suddenly veered into security

:01:30. > :01:33.and policing in the wake of Manchester and London.

:01:34. > :01:40.Today third attacker was named as Rachid Redouane. Reports in the

:01:41. > :01:47.Italian press suggest he tried to travel to Syria last year, but was

:01:48. > :01:51.stopped by Italian police. UK officials say Youssef Zaghba was not

:01:52. > :01:53.on their watch list. Authorities in the UK are reviewing their

:01:54. > :01:59.intelligence. One man who thinks authorities

:02:00. > :02:03.are going about it in the wrong Up until 10 days ago

:02:04. > :02:07.he was the Chief Executive of the Association of Police

:02:08. > :02:09.and Crime Commissioners. He was stopped from speaking

:02:10. > :02:10.after the Manchester attack and so he resigned

:02:11. > :02:23.so he could have his say. Do you think Muslim communities in

:02:24. > :02:26.your view are taking enough ownership of this problem? Obviously

:02:27. > :02:29.they're doing as much as they can, but there is more they could do.

:02:30. > :02:35.That is what I have been trying to say. It is also an issue about the

:02:36. > :02:40.state, by that I mean local authorities and local government,

:02:41. > :02:46.are not doing. When it comes to the engagement, as you probably know

:02:47. > :02:49.there is a deradicalisation programme, where people are referred

:02:50. > :02:53.when they become aware of issues about a person and that is being

:02:54. > :02:59.undermined and often deliberately by people. As a result people are being

:03:00. > :03:05.deterred from reporting or signposting people for support and

:03:06. > :03:08.assistance. There is an issue around community leadership, this is where

:03:09. > :03:13.the problem lies with the state, the state tends to talk to the same

:03:14. > :03:18.people and expect a different result and the communities, particularly

:03:19. > :03:23.the Muslim community is very young, the majority is under 25, female and

:03:24. > :03:27.from low income backgrounds, all the leaders the Government want to talk

:03:28. > :03:32.to are male, middle class and over 40 or 50. So they have no real

:03:33. > :03:37.understanding of what is going on in Muslim youth or teenagers or young

:03:38. > :03:43.people and yet they are the ones who are allegedly coming up with

:03:44. > :03:47.solutions to help the Government. The problems are complicated and

:03:48. > :03:51.police and authorities have to triage, because so many people are

:03:52. > :03:55.suspects, but talk about the solutions, you have ideas about who

:03:56. > :03:59.authorities should be talking to in communities, they always say they're

:04:00. > :04:03.talking to community leader, who could they talk to? The best work

:04:04. > :04:09.that is happening in the United Kingdom is Muslim women's groups and

:04:10. > :04:14.Muslim women generally. The groups operate with very little funding and

:04:15. > :04:17.they have access to families and are engaged in communities and not only

:04:18. > :04:23.working on this, but other issues. When they come across a young man or

:04:24. > :04:27.woman who might be being radicalised or questioning their identity, they

:04:28. > :04:34.sit down and work with that person for nothing and ensure the person

:04:35. > :04:39.has support. To my mind, as a doctor I know who works as a GP and in the

:04:40. > :04:43.evening he will spend time working with young girls, maybing them

:04:44. > :04:47.understand what they can -- making them understand what they can

:04:48. > :04:53.achieve in this country. That work is happening under the radar and

:04:54. > :04:56.being done for nothing. But we are expending millions on so-called

:04:57. > :05:01.community leaders who are very good at talking the talk and I have spent

:05:02. > :05:04.many afternoons wasted sit around tables with them and at the end we

:05:05. > :05:12.feel very much better, but the point is the solutions are not there. If

:05:13. > :05:17.you tell your children that it is Haram to wear skirts or wrong to go

:05:18. > :05:22.to concerts or to stand with women in mosques, should we be surprised

:05:23. > :05:28.that young people adopt some of these more mill tants attitudes. --

:05:29. > :05:32.militant attitudes. Most of this information is not coming from

:05:33. > :05:39.parents, but from peers or online. But yes the whole of this, it is not

:05:40. > :05:42.just one issue, I remember one parent after three children

:05:43. > :05:49.disappeared to Syria, said he had done his duty and made sure his

:05:50. > :05:53.daughter didn't go out clubbing, didn't go partying, studied and she

:05:54. > :05:58.was up stairs. He had no sense of the fact she was in more danger

:05:59. > :06:00.online than if she had been doing the other things. There is a

:06:01. > :06:04.conversation that has to be happening. That isn't happening. It

:06:05. > :06:14.is not as challenging as it could be around the rights of the female. I'm

:06:15. > :06:21.in favour of a rights-based society, rather than a multicultural society.

:06:22. > :06:26.Why weren't you allowed to speak out. Do you think there is

:06:27. > :06:33.self-sensor ship going on or political correctness. If you ask

:06:34. > :06:38.the police commissioner, the board who stopped me speaking, I live in

:06:39. > :06:43.Manchester, the atrocity was very close to hand, I drop my son there

:06:44. > :06:49.all the time. It is a very personal thing to me. A lot of people were

:06:50. > :06:57.saying to me, I prosecuted terrorism cases and I have ex-- experience of

:06:58. > :07:01.terrorism. People said, we don't want you to say anything, they were

:07:02. > :07:06.justify that on the basis we are in an election campaign and what I

:07:07. > :07:11.would say might be miscontrued party politically. But nothing I'm saying

:07:12. > :07:15.is party political. But it is about the bigger picture of protecting our

:07:16. > :07:22.society and communities and for whatever reasons they were ru' --

:07:23. > :07:27.reluctant to let me speak and I walked out of day. The conversations

:07:28. > :07:34.we are now having reflect what needs to be had. Thank you very joining

:07:35. > :07:36.us. Having walked out the door, you walked into your studio. We are glad

:07:37. > :07:40.you did. French police have shot

:07:41. > :07:42.and injured a man outside the cathedral of Notre Dame,

:07:43. > :07:44.after he attacked The French prosecutor's office

:07:45. > :07:47.says it is being treated The area around the cathedral

:07:48. > :07:50.has been cleared of French media reports

:07:51. > :07:54.say the attacker was TRANSLATION: A person came up behind

:07:55. > :08:02.a policeman armed with a hammer Another policeman

:08:03. > :08:05.immediately reacted and The policeman is recovering

:08:06. > :08:09.in hospital and the The incident is being looked

:08:10. > :08:15.into by a prosecutor, as while the aggressor was attacking

:08:16. > :08:26.the policeman, he said, "This is Interesting, I was watching the US

:08:27. > :08:31.network respond to this and there is focus on Europe at the moment with

:08:32. > :08:36.the terror attacks in the UK and the point I was making on Twitter, I was

:08:37. > :08:43.surprised how much attention that incident in Paris and I'm not

:08:44. > :08:48.belittling it, but it happens where the police are targeted by these

:08:49. > :08:53.people, I was surprised how much attention was on that and how little

:08:54. > :08:58.on the shooting of five people at a factory in Florida. Yes, that was a

:08:59. > :09:01.disgruntled worker and there was almost no coverage and almost no

:09:02. > :09:07.coverage of the fact that 150 people were Kimmed in a bomb -- killed in a

:09:08. > :09:14.bombing in Kabul. It does seem to be, we don't know if it is terror

:09:15. > :09:18.related, but these incidents, it is worth asking in the media how much

:09:19. > :09:23.attention we should give these stories. That story has been wrapped

:09:24. > :09:25.up and it is being investigated. I think we can draw a line under that

:09:26. > :09:28.one. More stories have been

:09:29. > :09:29.emerging of people in London Bridge on the

:09:30. > :09:32.night of the attacks. Many people tried to

:09:33. > :09:33.fight off the attackers, as they worked their way

:09:34. > :09:35.through Borough market. Our Special Correspondent,

:09:36. > :09:37.Lucy Manning has been hearing Well scratches to

:09:38. > :09:44.the arms and hands. Stabbed in the side

:09:45. > :09:47.of me stomach and chest. Roy Larner, football

:09:48. > :09:59.fan, a man who took on the the terrorists

:10:00. > :10:00.with I don't know why I did it,

:10:01. > :10:04.but I went BLEEP back. And I was stopping them getting

:10:05. > :10:13.into the restaurant to stop them attacking the children

:10:14. > :10:15.and families in there. As I got him out the Black and Blue

:10:16. > :10:22.the police were firing The police stopping

:10:23. > :10:27.him getting, hurting any more people and from

:10:28. > :10:29.being shot around me. I feel quite bad myself

:10:30. > :10:31.doing what I did. Spaniard, Ignacio Echeverria,

:10:32. > :10:33.also fought the three Shocking, you didn't

:10:34. > :10:37.know what to do. Spaniard, Ignacio Echeverria,

:10:38. > :10:44.also fought the three Shocking, you didn't

:10:45. > :10:48.know what to do. He didn't want to be

:10:49. > :10:51.fully identified. He didn't even think

:10:52. > :10:53.of anything, he just jumped there with the skateboard

:10:54. > :10:55.and started to fight with them. He was hitting

:10:56. > :10:57.the terrorist with the Then the next thing I remember

:10:58. > :11:09.I was trying to approach the group, but I realised they were having

:11:10. > :11:12.massive knives and one of them

:11:13. > :11:15.stabbed my friend. I saw the policeman

:11:16. > :11:25.running to tackle them. But as soon as he got,

:11:26. > :11:28.as soon as he got to the If the policeman in

:11:29. > :11:34.that moment had a gun, Ignacio's family say

:11:35. > :11:42.they're in pain. They're appealing to British

:11:43. > :11:44.and Spanish authorities for I'm with Geoff Ho and this

:11:45. > :11:51.guy's a real hero. Geoff Ho with friends sitting up

:11:52. > :11:57.in his hospital bed. The stab wound on his

:11:58. > :12:02.throat still visible. The journalist who used his martial

:12:03. > :12:05.arts skills to tackle the terrorists I'm confident he is going

:12:06. > :12:10.to do a lot better than he did no in No 1, but RJ Ward has

:12:11. > :12:14.the skills and he is going In a statement, Mr Ho described how

:12:15. > :12:33.he took on the the attackers. Terrible injuries for many,

:12:34. > :12:35.the scars from fighting back. We remember the victims and the

:12:36. > :12:52.people who behaved so bravely. Brits go to the polls in just over

:12:53. > :12:56.24 hours and an election that was all about Brexit has

:12:57. > :12:58.suddenly veered into security and policing in the wake

:12:59. > :13:00.of Manchester and London. But on Thursday the decision

:13:01. > :13:03.that is made by the British voters will have a huge impact on Britain's

:13:04. > :13:06.future relationship with Europe. Will Theresa May get

:13:07. > :13:08.the mandate she wants? Or will Labour take enough seats

:13:09. > :13:10.to deny her the thumping Today there has been a frenetic

:13:11. > :13:14.pace to the campaigning. Jeremy Corbyn has been in London

:13:15. > :13:16.and Shropshire and tonight he's in Ladywood in Birmingham,

:13:17. > :13:18.a safe Labour seat. The Prime Minister has been

:13:19. > :13:20.in Lancashire, North Wales and in the past few minutes she has

:13:21. > :13:24.arrived, closer to home, in Slough. Our political correspondent

:13:25. > :13:25.Ben Wright has been following the Prime Minister

:13:26. > :13:34.on the campaign trail today Slough has a Labour majority. Not a

:13:35. > :13:40.seat you would expect Theresa May to be targeting? True. But this is a

:13:41. > :13:44.campaign that is quietly very confident. There has been a closing

:13:45. > :13:49.in the polls in the last couple of weeks, it feels and probably is a

:13:50. > :13:53.tighter race than it was six weeks ago when Theresa May surprised the

:13:54. > :13:57.UK and called the snap general election. But I feel within the Tory

:13:58. > :14:00.camp they're sure this is going to be all right for them and they're

:14:01. > :14:09.going to be returned with a bigger majority. How big is the question.

:14:10. > :14:11.But last night I was up in a city called Bradford, a constituency

:14:12. > :14:15.Bradford South, that the Conservative Party last won in 1918.

:14:16. > :14:20.But a century later, Theresa May thinks she could take it and a big

:14:21. > :14:26.reason is that even though there is a Labour majority of 6,500 there was

:14:27. > :14:36.a very large vote for Brexit, for leaving the EU. And a partly called

:14:37. > :14:44.Ukip did well in 2015 and the Conservative are confident in other

:14:45. > :14:48.seats they can scoop up a lot of the Ukip votes, because Brexit is going

:14:49. > :14:54.to happen. I know I have asked you that a and you won't tell me how

:14:55. > :14:59.many seats you needs or the it to be a real victory. She is playing

:15:00. > :15:03.offence and Labour seem to be playing defence, Jeremy Corbyn in

:15:04. > :15:08.safe Labour seats today, what are they looking, is it internal numbers

:15:09. > :15:14.they have or different polls from what we are seeing, something is

:15:15. > :15:19.giving them that confidence. All parties do their own private

:15:20. > :15:25.polling, I think private polling in Labour when I last checked with them

:15:26. > :15:28.looked dire Tatlower end of their -- at the lower end of their

:15:29. > :15:32.predictions and the Conservatives remain confident, although the

:15:33. > :15:35.national swing may not look fantastic that, individual seats

:15:36. > :15:41.will deliver the majority they're looking for and that made this

:15:42. > :15:45.gamble worthwhile. Your question remains a pertinent one and it is

:15:46. > :15:50.being asked. There is a big difference between her winning by 20

:15:51. > :15:55.and winning by 90. There is a big difference for her personally and

:15:56. > :16:02.what it gives her going into the Brexit negotiations in a few days.

:16:03. > :16:08.She has just appeared behind me. Between 20 and 90, you have given

:16:09. > :16:14.yourself a lot of latitude. That is quite a sweep stake. What is going

:16:15. > :16:18.on, in these last couple of days, why is the Tory party in offence and

:16:19. > :16:26.Labour on defence. Offence and defence, you have been in Washington

:16:27. > :16:30.too long, they're on attack mode. I'm playing American football.

:16:31. > :16:34.They're targeting Labour seats in the north-west and the north in

:16:35. > :16:41.places like Leeds and Manchester and perhaps in the north east which has

:16:42. > :16:49.been traditional Labour heartland. In the last election, they were not

:16:50. > :16:54.expected to get a majority. They got a majority of 12. That was a big

:16:55. > :16:58.surprise. Now at the start of the election they were a long way ahead

:16:59. > :17:01.in the polls and you could understand why the Prime Minister

:17:02. > :17:09.called the election. But she was probably thinking at about probably

:17:10. > :17:13.up around 80 to a hundred majority. That is the concern, will she have

:17:14. > :17:18.that majority to limit the role of some of the more hardline

:17:19. > :17:22.backbenchers in her party. For Labour, they're focussing on safe

:17:23. > :17:26.seats and some of the feeling in Westminster is they're trying to

:17:27. > :17:32.increase the share of the vote and Jeremy Corbyn in particular, because

:17:33. > :17:34.he does want to be forced to resign, rather than going after a hundred

:17:35. > :17:38.seats from the Conservative to try and win. That is the feeling. We

:17:39. > :17:45.will get an idea on Friday whether or not he has been successful. It

:17:46. > :17:52.will be interesting. We will have to sthee. Some of the Labour Labour

:17:53. > :17:58.critics looking at how much of a margin he gets with some scepticism.

:17:59. > :18:04.I will get you a sweep stake on how many seats she will get in private.

:18:05. > :18:07.The White House has been really unhappy about leaks ever

:18:08. > :18:10.Now they've cracked down with their first arrest

:18:11. > :18:13.A 25-year-old woman who worked as a contractor

:18:14. > :18:18.The information Reality Winner has admitted leaking is that it

:18:19. > :18:20.suggests Russia WAS trying to interfere with the actual

:18:21. > :18:22.voting procedure - the machines and the software,

:18:23. > :18:26.You might remember President Obama had expressed concerns that the poll

:18:27. > :18:34.We are joined by New York Times reporter Adam Goldman.

:18:35. > :18:41.We want to talk about the content of what was leaked and the White

:18:42. > :18:47.House's reaction. The content, how critical is the information that

:18:48. > :18:51.Reality Winner put out? You know, I don't think it necessarily is a

:18:52. > :18:57.game-changer in terms of information. It provided important

:18:58. > :19:00.contacts and we know the Russians continue to hack and interfere with

:19:01. > :19:07.the election after President Obama had warned Russia to stop. But it

:19:08. > :19:11.was useful. There is no surprise is there that this White House would

:19:12. > :19:15.have as soon as it had the opportunity to find somebody leaking

:19:16. > :19:21.information to the press arrest them and after all President Obama

:19:22. > :19:27.prosecuted leakers as well? Sure, President Obama prosecuted twice the

:19:28. > :19:32.number who had ever been prosecuted in its totality before him. So you

:19:33. > :19:41.know, it is not a surprise that the justice department under the

:19:42. > :19:44.leadership of Jeff Sessions and Ross Rosenstein will go after leakers and

:19:45. > :19:50.the president has made it clear it is a priority. The question is how

:19:51. > :19:54.far and how many do they do? There is no indication that they tilted

:19:55. > :19:59.the election towards Trump, but there is evidence they tried if you

:20:00. > :20:03.believe this leak. But would the administration have told us the NSA

:20:04. > :20:11.had proof of these Russian attempts to hack had she not leaked the

:20:12. > :20:16.information? Well, I mean, let's not for get the former director of

:20:17. > :20:21.intelligence, who was in charge of the department of homeland security

:20:22. > :20:25.put out a statement suggesting Russian interference and there was a

:20:26. > :20:33.report in January that blamed the Russians for interfering in the

:20:34. > :20:37.election. So you know, what she put out doesn't on a 20,000 foot level

:20:38. > :20:45.change our understanding of what the Russians did. Thank you very much.

:20:46. > :20:50.We get some good guests in London and that is great. Sometimes I feel

:20:51. > :20:55.a bit left out. I'm not part of Washington club and I don't have the

:20:56. > :21:01.access to the high fliers. So you what I have done? I have invited Ron

:21:02. > :21:07.Christie here to London. You have lured him away. Ron, you traitor!

:21:08. > :21:13.I'm part of Washington fraternity. He has been to Rome and to now he is

:21:14. > :21:18.in London and is right here in the studio. Good the see you. He'll come

:21:19. > :21:27.back to me. Don't worry. You're out of it. What do you think about this

:21:28. > :21:36.leak? Is there any moral ambiguity to this? No, having top security

:21:37. > :21:39.clearance there is no excuse for releasing materials, particularly

:21:40. > :21:43.when you're a contractor, you take a special oath not to disclose

:21:44. > :21:51.information and the fact she did and sent it to the mails, she is in

:21:52. > :21:56.trouble. Ron, I insist on being part of conversation. You have noticed

:21:57. > :22:00.the president has been tweeting and today put himself in the the row

:22:01. > :22:33.between Arab nations and Qatar. Why is the president wading into

:22:34. > :22:41.something that is incredibly diplomatically sensitive and you

:22:42. > :22:47.have 11,000 US military personnel posted to Qatar, is this sensible?

:22:48. > :22:50.No, it is baffling to me. Given the fact that he likes to conduct

:22:51. > :22:55.business via Twitter as we always talk about, but to do something of

:22:56. > :22:59.this magnitude and don't forget, the United States has its largest

:23:00. > :23:03.military presence in Qatar. And we have the fifth fleet which has the

:23:04. > :23:12.American navy in Bahrain, one country over. And for him to take

:23:13. > :23:15.these sort of steps via Twitter to isolate the United States is

:23:16. > :23:19.foolish. It is not smart. Not wise and now I don't understand how this

:23:20. > :23:25.White House will pull itself out of this. The thing is, we had a load of

:23:26. > :23:29.people yesterday who were close to the president saying you have got to

:23:30. > :23:37.ignore what the president is saying on social media. It is not policy.

:23:38. > :23:57.Have a look at what the Wall Street journal put its editorial today.

:23:58. > :24:04.Which is the point we have made countless times on this programme.

:24:05. > :24:09.No yes about it. If is were working in the White House and I'm not going

:24:10. > :24:17.anywhere, I'm staying here, but if you were an aide, you to worry every

:24:18. > :24:21.time the boss picks up his hand-held device that could up end the

:24:22. > :24:27.policies. This is supposed to be about infrastructure. Yes but we are

:24:28. > :24:31.talking about Twitter. Do you detect a difference this week, it seems the

:24:32. > :24:36.tone of the tweets since the weekend and the London bombings, the

:24:37. > :24:40.frequency of them, has stepped up. It smacks of a real sense of

:24:41. > :24:44.grievance in the White House in the office of the president. No

:24:45. > :24:49.question, having been here on Saturday and Sunday when the events

:24:50. > :24:52.took place and see my president sending out those tweets, I thought

:24:53. > :24:57.it was tone deaf at best and my friends in the administration threw

:24:58. > :25:01.their arms up and there was an article saying the president has a

:25:02. > :25:05.difficult time getting legal counsel and people to represent him not

:25:06. > :25:14.knowing what the president may say or tweet. It comes down to the idea

:25:15. > :25:22.of... In a way his paranoia about the popular vote. He is trying to

:25:23. > :25:26.justify why he is there. He keeping sending out these tweet, he started

:25:27. > :25:32.again on the fake media. It comes to his own insecurities. What else can

:25:33. > :25:35.you say? If my wife was the only one there for my inauguration, I would

:25:36. > :25:41.be happy, I wouldn't look at any other numbers. We know who is in

:25:42. > :25:48.charge and it is not me. Christian and I would turn up. You know where

:25:49. > :25:57.the love is by the way. I'm... Just come back to me. I'm coming back on

:25:58. > :25:58.Thursday. Ron good to have you. You're watching 100 Days on BBC

:25:59. > :26:02.News.