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:00:10. > :00:11.Hello and welcome to One Hundred Days Plus.

:00:12. > :00:13.28 years after the Hillsborough disaster, criminal charges have been

:00:14. > :00:19.Among them is the match day commander Chief Superintendent David

:00:20. > :00:26.Duckenfield who faces 95 charges of manslaughter.

:00:27. > :00:29.It is a day of mixed emotions for the families.

:00:30. > :00:31.Relief there is now some accountability but frustration

:00:32. > :00:39.This is the scene live in the House of Commons where opposition MP's

:00:40. > :00:42.are forcing a vote on the UK's long standing, public-sector pay cap.

:00:43. > :00:47.Is austerity finally coming to an end?

:00:48. > :00:51.The Republican promise to repeal and replace Obamacare

:00:52. > :00:59.As the Senate is forced to delay its vote we're in Kentucky

:01:00. > :01:01.where patients are just worried about getting care with

:01:02. > :01:14.That is why the United States is strong, we have always taken things

:01:15. > :01:15.and made them better, we can take health care and make it better

:01:16. > :01:18.instead of fighting. Grenades thrown from a helicopter

:01:19. > :01:21.target Venezuela Supreme Court. It comes after weeks of violent

:01:22. > :01:23.protests in which more President Trump is heading to Paris

:01:24. > :01:28.for Bastille Day celebrations - saying he's ready to reaffirm the US

:01:29. > :01:36.friendship with France. Welcome to the programme,

:01:37. > :01:39.I am Christian Fraser in London, The Hillsborough disaster

:01:40. > :01:42.is the worst tragedy English In April 1989, as an FA cup

:01:43. > :01:48.semi-final kicked off between Liverpool and Nottingham

:01:49. > :01:51.forest, a crush at one end For 28 years the families

:01:52. > :02:00.have fought for justice. Last year the Hillsborough

:02:01. > :02:02.Inquest ruled the fans But what the families still don't

:02:03. > :02:05.have is accountability. Today having reviewed

:02:06. > :02:08.thousands of documents from two seperate inquiries,

:02:09. > :02:11.the Crown Prosecution Service announced it will be prosecuting six

:02:12. > :02:13.people in connection Our correspondent Judith

:02:14. > :02:20.Moritz has the story. They've had inquiries,

:02:21. > :02:23.investigations and inquests, but the Hillsborough families have

:02:24. > :02:28.never had public prosecutions. They've fought for nearly 30

:02:29. > :02:31.years for this moment. We've got today everything

:02:32. > :02:37.we could've asked for. The decisions by the CPS

:02:38. > :02:40.in my opinion were And we look forward to the due

:02:41. > :02:48.process through the courts of law. In 1989 the police officer

:02:49. > :02:51.in charge at Hillsborough was There is sufficient evidence

:02:52. > :02:57.to charge former Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield

:02:58. > :03:00.with the manslaughter by gross negligence of 95 men,

:03:01. > :03:05.women and children. The match commander ordered

:03:06. > :03:08.the opening of an exit gate, through which the fans poured

:03:09. > :03:11.onto overcrowded terraces. He is charged with the manslaughter

:03:12. > :03:16.of all but one of the victims. Tony Bland died four years

:03:17. > :03:19.later, too late to be In the years after Hillsborough,

:03:20. > :03:23.Sir Norman Bettison rose through the ranks to become

:03:24. > :03:26.Chief Constable of Merseyside He is charged with misconduct

:03:27. > :03:32.in a public office, accused of lying He said he is disappointed to be

:03:33. > :03:38.charged, and will vigorously Andrew Brookes was one of those

:03:39. > :03:44.killed at Hillsborough. His sister Louise has long

:03:45. > :03:48.campaigned for justice, and was in Warrington today to hear

:03:49. > :03:53.that charges will be brought. It's another event where my

:03:54. > :03:56.parents haven't been alive to see it or to hear it,

:03:57. > :04:03.and it's not just my parents - its other Hillsborough

:04:04. > :04:05.families who have gone The families were told that 23

:04:06. > :04:16.suspects were originally Graham Mackrell was the Sheffield

:04:17. > :04:20.Wednesday company secretary - responsible for safety,

:04:21. > :04:22.he is accused of failing Peter Metcalf was the solicitor

:04:23. > :04:30.acting for South Yorkshire Police. He is charged with perverting

:04:31. > :04:33.the course of justice in relation to amendments made

:04:34. > :04:36.to police statements. At home today, he would

:04:37. > :04:42.not answer questions. Former Chief Superintendent Donald

:04:43. > :04:46.Denton, in the middle here, is also charged with perverting

:04:47. > :04:49.the course of justice, said to have overseen the process

:04:50. > :04:52.of altering the statements. Former Detective Chief Inspector

:04:53. > :04:56.Alan Foster faces the same charge, accused of being central

:04:57. > :04:58.to the process of Nobody from the Ambulance Service

:04:59. > :05:02.is being prosecuted, and no organisation will face corporate

:05:03. > :05:05.charges over Hillsborough, A couple of names that we didn't

:05:06. > :05:14.expect, and a few that we think There will be six people facing

:05:15. > :05:20.criminal charges who might not have done if we hadn't have been

:05:21. > :05:22.resilient and all stuck together Professor Phil Scraton has spent

:05:23. > :05:28.years working to expose what happened at Hillsborough,

:05:29. > :05:31.and says the passage of time must have had an effect

:05:32. > :05:35.on the number of charges. If we'd had the kind

:05:36. > :05:38.of investigation then that we have had now,

:05:39. > :05:41.and the kind of attention paid to the detail of prosecutable

:05:42. > :05:44.charges then as we have now, I think we would see a lot

:05:45. > :05:48.more prosecutions. The youngest to die at Hillsborough

:05:49. > :05:51.was just ten years old. There have long been

:05:52. > :05:58.calls for justice. Now, nearly 30 years

:05:59. > :06:00.after they died, those said to be responsible will face trial,

:06:01. > :06:03.and the prospect of jail. We're joined now by the BBC's

:06:04. > :06:23.Legal Correspondent Clive Coleman. It is a hugely significant day for

:06:24. > :06:28.the families, 28 years since the tragedy. And the first time the

:06:29. > :06:33.state has brought criminal charges. That may confuse some people because

:06:34. > :06:37.of course there has been an inquest with the jury and that reached a

:06:38. > :06:41.finding that the 96 fans were unlawfully killed. But an inquest is

:06:42. > :06:46.not a criminal trial. It does not apportion guilt, does not apportion

:06:47. > :06:51.responsibility. The thing but both have a legal effect is if you get a

:06:52. > :06:56.finding of unlawful killing, that is when the criminal justice system

:06:57. > :07:00.kicks in. And there is not an absolute obligation but a very high

:07:01. > :07:04.expectation that if you have that finding of unlawful killing than the

:07:05. > :07:07.police will investigate and the CPS will consider criminal charges and

:07:08. > :07:12.that is what has happened here. So as you say for the first time in 28

:07:13. > :07:18.years we're going to have prosecutions through the criminal

:07:19. > :07:21.courts and we will know at the end of those that will determine whether

:07:22. > :07:24.any one individual should bear responsibility, criminal

:07:25. > :07:30.responsibility for what happened on the day. The focus has been on Chief

:07:31. > :07:35.Superintendent David Duckenfield, manslaughter by gross negligence.

:07:36. > :07:40.That is known as a common-law offence, a judge created defence and

:07:41. > :07:43.what it means is the prosecution must prove David Duckenfield O the

:07:44. > :07:49.Santa died a duty of care, Bezy bridge that duty of care so badly

:07:50. > :07:56.that effectively he committed a criminal act. So bad mistake is not

:07:57. > :08:00.enough, the conduct must be so serious that the jury concluded he

:08:01. > :08:02.committed a criminal act. That places the bar pretty high and it

:08:03. > :08:06.has been a difficult offence in the past to prosecute. It has been 28

:08:07. > :08:13.years, how much easier with the trial have been if it had happened

:08:14. > :08:18.closer to the tragedy, are we now rely on memories that could be

:08:19. > :08:22.faulty? There's a huge amount of documentary evidence and that is in

:08:23. > :08:27.the hands of the authorities. Of course there will also be testimony

:08:28. > :08:31.from people who were there no doubt, who will have to give evidence about

:08:32. > :08:35.what took place on that fateful day 28 years ago. That is always

:08:36. > :08:40.difficult and challenging and will test human memory. Of course we have

:08:41. > :08:45.been prosecuted in this country very many historic sexual abuse crimes,

:08:46. > :08:48.some extending back way beyond 28 years. And some have been

:08:49. > :08:55.successfully prosecuted. So in general terms the time lag of 28

:08:56. > :09:01.years is no reason why a successful prosecution cannot be brought. But

:09:02. > :09:03.memories will indeed be tested. Clive Coleman speaking earlier.

:09:04. > :09:06.America spends more on health care than any other

:09:07. > :09:07.industrialised country - but it regularly ranks lower

:09:08. > :09:10.than other countries in the quality of its care.

:09:11. > :09:13.Try fixing this problem however and you end up in a whole heap

:09:14. > :09:16.That's what President Trump has just discovered.

:09:17. > :09:18.He's staked much of his political capital on replacing Obamacare -

:09:19. > :09:23.The Republican leader of the Senate has had to pull a vote

:09:24. > :09:25.on the issue this week - largely because the party's

:09:26. > :09:28.Last night President Trump summoned all 52 Republican senators

:09:29. > :09:33.to the White House to persuade them to vote for the bill.

:09:34. > :09:36.Today he says his reforms will pass.

:09:37. > :09:41.This will be something really special if we can get it done.

:09:42. > :09:43.Always tough - probably the toughest subject

:09:44. > :09:46.from the standpoint of approval cos every state is different -

:09:47. > :09:50.We have a tremendous opiod problem and some states are more affected

:09:51. > :09:53.by that than others but overall I have to tell you this

:09:54. > :09:57.It will really have a lot of very very happy people

:09:58. > :10:03.So we are working very hard on healthcare and I think

:10:04. > :10:06.we are going to have a great answer and hopefully we are

:10:07. > :10:20.Joining us now is Matt Schlapp, chair of the American

:10:21. > :10:32.Republicans cannot do something like changing American health care

:10:33. > :10:36.despite having the house and Senate. In the Senate takes the

:10:37. > :10:45.supermajority of 60 votes but on the legislation that using they just 50.

:10:46. > :10:48.So... It is put up or shut up time. We ran against Obamacare and said it

:10:49. > :10:54.is destroying American health care. We said we had good solutions and it

:10:55. > :10:58.is time for Republicans to explain those, debate and passed them, time

:10:59. > :11:01.for action. The president also said in the campaign that because he was

:11:02. > :11:06.such a good negotiator at this was going to be pretty simple, he was

:11:07. > :11:10.going to be able to fix it even though others have not managed to.

:11:11. > :11:13.Well we're making too much of the delayed vote, the same thing

:11:14. > :11:17.happened twice in the house. The delayed vote I think is good for the

:11:18. > :11:22.bill, it will make it better. As they make changes. I predict it will

:11:23. > :11:30.get past this month. The Republican senators, coming up to the July the

:11:31. > :11:33.4th weekend, they're going to go home and hear from their

:11:34. > :11:39.constituents and I think this bill has something like a 12% approval

:11:40. > :11:44.rating. It is hard to come up with a bill but only 12% of Americans

:11:45. > :11:48.support. They're not going to have a holiday. Well the American people

:11:49. > :11:52.actually in four elections, Obamacare was the number one issue

:11:53. > :11:58.and in four elections the American people said we do not like it. It is

:11:59. > :12:02.now more popular and in what the Republicans are proposing. When you

:12:03. > :12:06.get into the details are hard decisions to make and when you get

:12:07. > :12:09.to the details it is not so popular but these constituents, when the

:12:10. > :12:13.senators get home they will demand that they hold to the campaign

:12:14. > :12:18.promise, show us your version of health care reform. We having debate

:12:19. > :12:23.also in the UK about austerity and it seems you have similar problem

:12:24. > :12:27.there. One of the problems we have here, some people want to bring down

:12:28. > :12:30.the deficit, others like Susan Collins are more to the centre and

:12:31. > :12:35.they're saying look at all these people that will be pulled off

:12:36. > :12:39.Medicaid. And the problem is you have competing interests within the

:12:40. > :12:44.same party. Well I loved that in the UK they can use the word is dirty.

:12:45. > :12:48.Politicians here are scared of that word. They talk about how everyone

:12:49. > :12:51.will benefit and what Republicans tend to talk about is giving people

:12:52. > :12:57.choices and options. So here we have this Medicaid programme and

:12:58. > :13:01.Obamacare pushed millions on to Medicaid. The problem with that it

:13:02. > :13:05.is health care for poor people and unpopular. Republicans want to get

:13:06. > :13:10.people back off Medicaid and into the private health insurance market.

:13:11. > :13:13.That is what the debate is, how do you prop these individual private

:13:14. > :13:18.markets are up again and what is the process by which we give people more

:13:19. > :13:22.choice. So if premiums do not come down poor people cannot afford

:13:23. > :13:27.insurance. Exactly right, what happened with Obamacare is premiums

:13:28. > :13:30.went up so dramatically that you had American saying in spite of

:13:31. > :13:37.subsidies I cannot afford it and they are working away from it. --

:13:38. > :13:42.walking away. Thank you very much for coming in. It is important for

:13:43. > :13:43.Donald Trump politically that he manages to do that.

:13:44. > :13:46.Some of the states that have given the most support to President Trump

:13:47. > :13:48.have also been places that have the most people

:13:49. > :13:52.In the state of Kentucky more than 420,000 people have been

:13:53. > :13:54.insured through the expansion of the programme for

:13:55. > :14:08.This is what Donald Trump described as forgotten America.

:14:09. > :14:10.Eastern Kentucky used to be coal country.

:14:11. > :14:18.It is now blighted by ill-health and an opioid crisis.

:14:19. > :14:24.Clinics are seeing far higher rates of cancer,

:14:25. > :14:27.diabetes and heart disease than the rest of the US.

:14:28. > :14:33.And years of working at the coal face have taken its toll on some.

:14:34. > :14:36.We're talking about a lung transplant.

:14:37. > :14:39.They gave me an option to do the transplant,

:14:40. > :14:56.When the mines shut, he lost his job and his health insurance.

:14:57. > :15:00.But his treatment is free due to Obamacare reforms.

:15:01. > :15:02.Let's see if we can get you in this week.

:15:03. > :15:05.Doctor Reading was voted country doctor of the year.

:15:06. > :15:08.Half his patients receive government funded Medicaid.

:15:09. > :15:10.He warns about making this debate political,

:15:11. > :15:22.We will not be a pioneer, but we can take what they have done

:15:23. > :15:26.and use it and build it to make it the best programme in the world.

:15:27. > :15:29.That is why the United States is as strong as it is,

:15:30. > :15:31.we have always taken things and make them better.

:15:32. > :15:34.Why can't we take health care and make it better instead

:15:35. > :15:43.But some fear that the Donald Trump this county voted for may cut care.

:15:44. > :15:46.He not thinking about little people, I don't know what he's thinking.

:15:47. > :15:49.He did promise he would not take away Medicaid, and here we are.

:15:50. > :15:55.Promised a lot to get into office, that is what he promised.

:15:56. > :15:57.So many people here have told us that Obamacare

:15:58. > :16:04.Hard-working middle income families say their insurance

:16:05. > :16:09.premiums have risen, and they're struggling.

:16:10. > :16:12.They ask why should they be paying, why should they be

:16:13. > :16:17.And that question is raised more often as opioid abuse

:16:18. > :16:26.I wanted to use it to come off everything.

:16:27. > :16:28.Courtney is four months pregnant, she has been given medication

:16:29. > :16:34.Her first son was born dependent on drugs.

:16:35. > :16:37.This time she is determined to get the help she needs.

:16:38. > :16:40.I will always have that fear of getting back on drugs.

:16:41. > :16:42.But I'm excited, more excited than nervous,

:16:43. > :16:46.because I cannot wait to just be back normal.

:16:47. > :16:48.That probably sounds crazy to say, but I just can't wait

:16:49. > :16:52.to have my life back together, you know.

:16:53. > :16:55.And be able to focus on other things other than getting

:16:56. > :16:58.Doctors say this kind of intervention will

:16:59. > :17:10.And save what is becoming a lost generation.

:17:11. > :17:12.This community is finding ways to look after its own,

:17:13. > :17:16.They are hoping Washington is listening and will not

:17:17. > :17:38.I would love to play like that! Let's just talk about the polls

:17:39. > :17:45.because I saw a poll today, deeply unpopular this Senate bill. 12% I

:17:46. > :17:48.think in favour. And these people as you said, these senators all going

:17:49. > :17:53.back to their home towns and cities over this next few days and they're

:17:54. > :17:57.going to get it in the year. Yes in the end this is about people and

:17:58. > :18:02.patients and people families and the person who has a child that has

:18:03. > :18:07.asthma and someone who has just been diagnosed with cancer. It is easy

:18:08. > :18:09.for politicians to sit in Washington and fight between Republicans and

:18:10. > :18:19.Democrats but they're about to go home and we'll hear from people with

:18:20. > :18:22.real issues, will ride to saying this is the most powerful country in

:18:23. > :18:24.the world and why can we not fix something as basic as providing

:18:25. > :18:27.health care to poor people. That will be the message they're getting

:18:28. > :18:29.and we will see when the comeback whether it galvanises them to fix

:18:30. > :18:35.something that America has found inexplicably difficult to fix for

:18:36. > :18:38.the past few years. We were talking about austerity in the UK and we

:18:39. > :18:41.have news from House of Commons. An amendment to the Queen 's speech

:18:42. > :18:50.tailored by the Labour Party has failed to pass. This was on the

:18:51. > :18:53.public sector pay cap, that vote went 393 against and 309 in favour.

:18:54. > :18:55.They've almost cleared the house now. More on that later in the

:18:56. > :18:59.programme. Quiz time - what do

:19:00. > :19:01.a port in Los Angeles, the Russian Central Bank

:19:02. > :19:03.and a chocolate factory They've all been hit by that

:19:04. > :19:09.cyber attack that spread So far at least 64 countries have

:19:10. > :19:22.been hit by the attack. The virus started in Ukraine

:19:23. > :19:24.which had 80 percent The attackers demanded

:19:25. > :19:33.a 300 dollar ransom in BitCoin from companies

:19:34. > :19:35.who were hit. He's Executive Chairman

:19:36. > :19:41.of The Chertoff Group and Former Secretary of Homeland

:19:42. > :19:44.Security. Michael Chertoff, who is behind this

:19:45. > :19:46.latest cyber attack? There is a lot of

:19:47. > :19:51.speculation about it. What we do know is it appears

:19:52. > :19:53.that this particular type of encryption ransomware has been

:19:54. > :19:58.out there for a while. And the question is how is it

:19:59. > :20:00.getting into systems. Some of it apparently is through

:20:01. > :20:03.a vulnerability in Microsoft that should've been patched,

:20:04. > :20:06.that some people have not patched. Some of it may be

:20:07. > :20:08.coming in through other For example e-mail phishing or other

:20:09. > :20:16.ways of evading antivirus. We know the Ukrainians

:20:17. > :20:22.think it is the Russians. Absolutely the Ukrainians

:20:23. > :20:24.think is the Russians. Taking advantage of getting

:20:25. > :20:30.the exploit and being able to deploy It looks like whoever is behind

:20:31. > :20:35.the attack was trying to cause chaos rather than trying to

:20:36. > :20:38.raise a lot of money. They were asking I think for 300

:20:39. > :20:41.dollars and only 30 people paid Typically in ransomware they don't

:20:42. > :20:46.ask for exorbitant sums of The business model for criminals

:20:47. > :20:50.in this particular line of The business model is relatively

:20:51. > :20:57.small amounts of money so You make the money in volume

:20:58. > :21:05.and generally the model is they will restore access

:21:06. > :21:12.to the data when you pay. If they do not do that then again

:21:13. > :21:15.people will stop paying. Only 30 people paid,

:21:16. > :21:17.not a great business In this case perhaps the execution

:21:18. > :21:21.has not been what the more Whether people will then start

:21:22. > :21:25.to lose their data, and whether that then inspires more people to pay,

:21:26. > :21:27.remains to be seen. In both the WannaCry

:21:28. > :21:30.case and in this case it seems that actually

:21:31. > :21:34.the damage was contained. Do you still stand by the idea

:21:35. > :21:38.that it is not a question of if but when the world faces a major

:21:39. > :21:41.cyber attack that is not contained and where the damage is

:21:42. > :21:43.substantially greater than either of I do stand by that because as

:21:44. > :21:55.I said the ransomware episodes generally speaking are ways

:21:56. > :21:57.of extorting money for criminal Attacks carried out by terrorists

:21:58. > :22:01.or where there is a geopolitical issue, for example

:22:02. > :22:03.the shutdown of Ukrainian power last Christmas and the Christmas before

:22:04. > :22:06.by the Russians, those are much more damaging because the objective is

:22:07. > :22:09.not to extort money, the objective And we have seen

:22:10. > :22:14.examples of that, in How concerned are you about the

:22:15. > :22:24.prospect that there will be a major I think as with many people

:22:25. > :22:31.in the intelligence field, I believe this is probably the most serious

:22:32. > :22:33.threat we currently face. First of all the terrorists,

:22:34. > :22:35.although they have not yet used cyber

:22:36. > :22:38.as a destructive tool rather than a recruiting tool, they may yet decide

:22:39. > :22:44.they want to do that. You have the north Koreans

:22:45. > :22:46.who have shown very little restraint and have

:22:47. > :22:48.access to cyber weapons. And I do think as we get rising

:22:49. > :22:51.tension around the world, there is a greater likelihood that

:22:52. > :23:06.you will see cyber as a domain of We must leave it there, thank you.

:23:07. > :23:11.That quite a few people are talking this way. Some French newspapers

:23:12. > :23:15.have comments from the cyber security agency there and of course

:23:16. > :23:19.they had Eilish -- they had an issue during the election. They were

:23:20. > :23:25.saying we're going to be in a permanent state of warfare in the

:23:26. > :23:28.short time in cyber and will need a collective effort, a global effort

:23:29. > :23:34.to tackle some of this cyber warfare. Everyone coming together.

:23:35. > :23:38.And they said when you look at the WannaCry attack, 250,000 computers

:23:39. > :23:44.in one in 50 countries affected. Including Russia. India and Taiwan

:23:45. > :23:50.and companies like that. So it's spread so far and wide. And it is

:23:51. > :23:54.not just about the hackers and these groups trying to undermine security

:23:55. > :23:58.and that kind of thing, it is when that kind of technology is then used

:23:59. > :24:06.by other states to activate triggers in nuclear power stations or trains

:24:07. > :24:10.or in the defence arena. So they're saying everyone is going to have to

:24:11. > :24:15.come together shortly to tackle this. Not just one country. Because

:24:16. > :24:19.you're only as strong as your weakest link is we've just seen with

:24:20. > :24:23.the Ukraine attack, as have all come from Ukraine, 80% of it there but

:24:24. > :24:29.spread so far and wide because of course we are so interconnected.

:24:30. > :24:30.When it gets into the wig part of the system it can spread to other

:24:31. > :24:33.countries. -- the weakest part. On Monday we told you that

:24:34. > :24:35.Emmanuel Macron had invited Donald Trump and Melania to Paris

:24:36. > :24:38.for Bastille Day - Some had suggested the two

:24:39. > :24:51.Presidents weren't You'll remember this handshake which

:24:52. > :24:57.became a power struggle. And also that incident at Nato on the

:24:58. > :24:59.sidelines of the Nato summit, it seemed a manual Macron was not

:25:00. > :25:05.especially taken with what Donald Trump was saying but he has accepted

:25:06. > :25:08.the invitation. It is marking the 100th anniversary of the United

:25:09. > :25:12.States joining France at the end of the First World War. So marking

:25:13. > :25:16.that. But of course other things to talk about. They will perhaps

:25:17. > :25:21.forsake the handshake and go for the kiss on the cheek this time around.

:25:22. > :25:25.He does not like being away from home, that surprised me, he does not

:25:26. > :25:30.like travelling much. And that is twice in the space of ten ways, --

:25:31. > :25:42.ten days. Apogee 20 and then in Paris. -- at the G20.

:25:43. > :25:48.Still to come, a police officer steals a helicopter to launch an

:25:49. > :25:52.attack on the Venezuelan Supreme Court. And we hear from John supple.

:25:53. > :26:13.That's still to come on 100 Days Plus, from BBC News.

:26:14. > :26:21.There is more rain on the way, today most of the heavy rain has been

:26:22. > :26:25.falling across northern parts of England and also the far South West

:26:26. > :26:29.of England. It will remain wet through tonight and into tomorrow.

:26:30. > :26:36.Not quite as wet as it was across some eastern areas, in the last 24

:26:37. > :26:39.hours or so. In Suffolk to 90 millimetres of rain, a lot of

:26:40. > :26:47.rainfall in a relatively short space of time. It has been overcast across

:26:48. > :26:53.the UK today, the cloud was thinner in Scotland. The bad weather has

:26:54. > :26:58.come in through this area of low pressure which is very slow moving.

:26:59. > :27:03.And the rain clouds are over us for a considerable amount of time put up

:27:04. > :27:08.raining in same place for a long time. The rain across the North of

:27:09. > :27:12.England and into southern and eastern Scotland during the morning

:27:13. > :27:17.and rain across Wales and the south-west. This is rush hour on

:27:18. > :27:22.Thursday morning, you can see it is still dry across the south-east and

:27:23. > :27:28.east Anglia and and central Midlands and Southern Wales. Further north,

:27:29. > :27:30.it is damp and the heavier rain nudging into Northern Ireland and

:27:31. > :27:35.falling across the north-east of England through the Borders into

:27:36. > :27:42.south west and central parts of Scotland. Through the course of

:27:43. > :27:47.tomorrow the rain continues to make its slow journey north but then

:27:48. > :27:57.slowly starts to pivot back our West and South again. Temperatures around

:27:58. > :28:02.14 degrees in Glasgow, 13 in Belfast. Up to 20 degrees in London.

:28:03. > :28:05.Again a slow-moving area of low pressure stretching right into the

:28:06. > :28:10.Baltic as well, even worse over there. But this giving us all the

:28:11. > :28:14.poor weather across western part of the country and on top of that the

:28:15. > :28:18.strong wind blowing as well. So pretty chilly in some areas. But the

:28:19. > :28:21.chance of it is some sunshine developing through the course of the

:28:22. > :28:27.afternoon in the south-east. But some showers still on the cards. It

:28:28. > :28:30.looks as though the weekend is looking more promising and

:28:31. > :30:07.especially Sunday, some sunshine on offer.

:30:08. > :30:16.Almost 30 years after Hillsborough - six people are told they face

:30:17. > :30:18.criminal charges for their role in Britain's worst ever sporting

:30:19. > :30:29.disaster when 96 people died at a football match in in 1989.

:30:30. > :30:31.President Trump is facing more delays in his plan

:30:32. > :30:33.to replace Obamacare - and he's laying the blame

:30:34. > :30:44.The Venezuelan government is hunting for a rogue policeman

:30:45. > :30:47.who attacked the Supreme Court with a helicopter and grenades.

:30:48. > :30:50.This is not the plot of a bad thriller.

:30:51. > :30:52.There have been anti government protests there for months -

:30:53. > :30:55.but we haven't seen anything yet quite like this.

:30:56. > :31:00.A police officer hijacking a helicopter to attack government

:31:01. > :31:08.buildings is a dramatic escalation of the turbulence in the country.

:31:09. > :31:11.No one was injured in the incident which President Nicolas Maduro has

:31:12. > :31:19.Eric Farnsworth is vice president of the organisation

:31:20. > :31:31.70 people have died in the protest lasting commands in Venezuela. Does

:31:32. > :31:36.this mark a tipping point? It sank clear but you can anticipate the

:31:37. > :31:38.situation will become more volatile. Whether or not this individual

:31:39. > :31:44.incident is a tipping point, I think there will be additional influence

:31:45. > :31:47.forthcoming. The government is becoming increasingly repressive,

:31:48. > :31:51.the people becoming increasingly desperate and there is a deadline

:31:52. > :31:55.here of 30th of July whether government has called for the

:31:56. > :31:59.constituent assembly to rewrite the constitution. That has caused

:32:00. > :32:04.concern among Venezuelans. Some may turn to desperate measures. This was

:32:05. > :32:10.not a guy in the street, this was someone who was a formula policeman

:32:11. > :32:15.-- former policeman, hijacked helicopter, why attack the Supreme

:32:16. > :32:17.Court? It is essentially the agent of enforcement of what the

:32:18. > :32:22.government has been trying to do for the last several months and years.

:32:23. > :32:28.It has been an instrument of the government, so one could anticipate

:32:29. > :32:32.that was the target. We don't know his motivation, we can't find him or

:32:33. > :32:42.talk to him, but we don't know. Why is now one weighing in regionally?

:32:43. > :32:49.There have been failed to do conclusive investigation. This is a

:32:50. > :32:55.question many of us have asked. There's a regional meeting in

:32:56. > :32:59.Cancun, Mexico. They have failed to take action against Venezuela. They

:33:00. > :33:03.believe the situation is becoming increasingly desperate, the question

:33:04. > :33:06.is what can meaningfully do about it in a way that respects the

:33:07. > :33:11.principles of sovereignty and the traditions of the American system,

:33:12. > :33:16.it's a real conundrum. You get into a downward spiral in the situation.

:33:17. > :33:21.Looks at the currency today, it took around 3000 to buy one US dollar at

:33:22. > :33:28.the start of the year and at around 8000. Inflation is out of control,

:33:29. > :33:31.bordering on hyperinflation. If you have access to dollars at the

:33:32. > :33:36.preferred exchange rate, as the government and it supports do, you

:33:37. > :33:39.can make a lot of money through currency manipulation. If you are

:33:40. > :33:43.the common Venezuelan people trying to survive, this is a desperate

:33:44. > :33:48.situation. It's hitting people really hard, where they live

:33:49. > :33:52.literally and figuratively. Just the ability to conduct your daily

:33:53. > :33:56.affairs. The economy is spinning downward without any particular end

:33:57. > :34:01.in sight. This country sitting on some of the largest oil reserves in

:34:02. > :34:05.the world? This is the irony. It has, by some estimates, the large

:34:06. > :34:18.two --. Oil sector has been destroyed.

:34:19. > :34:24.The president has a problem, he's never been as popular as Hugo

:34:25. > :34:30.Chavez. I'm assuming with not being out by anything in the shops and the

:34:31. > :34:37.demonstrations, the population is declining? It's very low. Estimates

:34:38. > :34:41.have 20%, including many of his former base. That poorer people are

:34:42. > :34:45.also turning against them because they can't get food or medical

:34:46. > :34:49.attention, the streets are unsafe. But popularity is declining. So the

:34:50. > :34:54.government is increasingly turning to repression ticket stay in power

:34:55. > :35:00.because it is running out of options to. Thank you. Extraordinary

:35:01. > :35:05.pictures of the helicopter and Supreme Court.

:35:06. > :35:08.These are difficult times for the White House press corps.

:35:09. > :35:10.Increasingly the administration is putting obstacles in their way.

:35:11. > :35:12.The briefings have not been cancelled - not entirely -

:35:13. > :35:15.but they are being downgraded, bit by bit, from "briefings"

:35:16. > :35:16.to "gaggles," from on-camera to off-camera.

:35:17. > :35:19.And the President - well - he has not held a full press

:35:20. > :35:26.Yesterday for the first time in a week, the cameras were allowed in.

:35:27. > :35:29.At the podium was the deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders,

:35:30. > :35:32.spoiling for a fight - but so were the reporters

:35:33. > :35:43.If we make the slightest mistake, the slightest word is off, it is

:35:44. > :35:52.just an absolute Thai raid from a lot of people in this room. But news

:35:53. > :35:59.outlets get to go on day after day and cite unnamed sources, news

:36:00. > :36:03.stories without sources, have, you mentioned a story where they had

:36:04. > :36:10.reporters resigning. This administration has done that as

:36:11. > :36:14.well. Why anyone of us, replaceable, if we don't get it right, the

:36:15. > :36:19.audience has the opportunity to turn the channel or not read us. You have

:36:20. > :36:24.been elected to serve for four years at least. There's no option other

:36:25. > :36:27.than that. We come here to ask you questions, you provide the answers

:36:28. > :36:33.and what you did was inflammatory to people all over the who see once

:36:34. > :36:39.again, the President's right and everyone else's fake news. Everyone

:36:40. > :36:44.in here is trying to their job. I disagree completely, first of all.

:36:45. > :36:48.If anything has been inflamed, it's the dishonesty that often takes

:36:49. > :36:53.place by the news media. I think it's outrageous for you to accuse me

:36:54. > :36:54.of inflaming a story when I was simply trying to respond to the

:36:55. > :37:06.question. John, that must have been found

:37:07. > :37:11.there. On one level, I hate talking about this subject because it seems

:37:12. > :37:14.so self-referential for us to talk about how the White House is

:37:15. > :37:19.treating the press or how the press is treating the White House, I'm

:37:20. > :37:24.sure the American people here want to hear about bigger policy issues.

:37:25. > :37:28.However, there is something extraordinary going on and it seems

:37:29. > :37:32.the White House once did this Mertz journalism in general. That

:37:33. > :37:38.-- wants to smear journalism in general. A worrying development. The

:37:39. > :37:42.get Sarah Huckabee Sanders yesterday urging people to look at the video

:37:43. > :37:48.that she doesn't know was authentic or not. Why would you urge somebody

:37:49. > :37:53.to... She also took the view that journalists don't care whether they

:37:54. > :37:58.make things up or things are totally inaccurate. My experience, and I'm

:37:59. > :38:04.sure yours and Christians's as well, when one of screws up on says

:38:05. > :38:08.something wrong, we don't sleep that night, because accuracy is something

:38:09. > :38:15.that is drilled into all of us. John is right. The White House has

:38:16. > :38:20.political reasons for doing what it does about the media. But the issue

:38:21. > :38:22.fake news is something we have all dealt with, when the White House is

:38:23. > :38:26.encouraging people to look at bilious but not admitting if they

:38:27. > :38:32.are accurate or not. -- look at videos. That exacerbates the

:38:33. > :38:36.problem? But does she have a slight point? The New York Times and the

:38:37. > :38:41.Washington Post are infatuated with the Russia story. There is lots

:38:42. > :38:45.going on and she made this point yesterday that every little mistake

:38:46. > :38:48.we make, you stick that up there in the headlights, the things we are

:38:49. > :38:55.doing underneath, you don't need much coverage at all. -- don't give

:38:56. > :38:59.much coverage. One issue further organisations is that certain

:39:00. > :39:02.subjects drive readers or viewers and therefore, they think this is

:39:03. > :39:06.good for business. That's not the same as it being fake news, fake

:39:07. > :39:13.unease is something made up, a fiction. -- fake news. They are

:39:14. > :39:15.reporting sources people are talking to. It's very well saying you

:39:16. > :39:20.shouldn't use anonymous sources, which is something often said to us.

:39:21. > :39:25.We get called the briefings at the White House while we are told it

:39:26. > :39:30.will be from a senior source and it will not be a named person. That is

:39:31. > :39:34.the rules of engagement that for the White House and the oven to leg

:39:35. > :39:39.other government departments are choosing for their means of speaking

:39:40. > :39:43.to us. You can't then complain when people talk about it like that. The

:39:44. > :39:49.big mistake the media could make, and I have seen evidence of some of

:39:50. > :39:52.them doing that, is to make the mistake of thinking that we, the

:39:53. > :39:57.journalists, are the enemy of the White House. We are not. We're there

:39:58. > :40:01.to hold power to account, whether it be a government from the left or

:40:02. > :40:08.right. I think most journalists would say they are there to do their

:40:09. > :40:13.job by the White House press briefing room. The incidence of

:40:14. > :40:17.enemies or critics as they -- they don't see themselves as enemies or

:40:18. > :40:21.critics. But every time there is a story in newspapers or national

:40:22. > :40:28.networks that are critical or questioning the administration, for

:40:29. > :40:32.president from's supporters it justifies their opinion that the

:40:33. > :40:36.media is fake. Paradoxically, it has the impact, because I don't think

:40:37. > :40:42.many people are persuadable on either side of this argument, of

:40:43. > :40:47.shoring up his base of support. It may well do that but it can be

:40:48. > :40:50.counter-productive. The key opinion group he needs to win over other

:40:51. > :40:55.people voting on his legislation on the hill. Sometimes twisting things

:40:56. > :41:02.out, launching attack ads against the senator against you, has shown

:41:03. > :41:05.to be counter-productive. It's not a smart way of operating. Yes, go to

:41:06. > :41:11.your rallies and say look at the fake news, what a bunch of liars,

:41:12. > :41:18.and they turn round the look look at us, they have done that to me. It's

:41:19. > :41:22.not very edifying. But he's in the business of governing now, which

:41:23. > :41:25.means getting legislation passed, not just revving up your base.

:41:26. > :41:35.Before we move on from this topic of fake news. I want to draw your

:41:36. > :41:36.attention to a story in the Washington Post today.

:41:37. > :41:39.It's a story that features this framed copy of Time magazine

:41:40. > :41:42.which has hung for many years on the walls of at least five

:41:43. > :41:46.On the cover there is a photo of Mr Trump -

:41:47. > :41:48.taken before he arrived at the White House - with the words

:41:49. > :41:50."Donald Trump: The 'Apprentice' is a television smash!"

:41:51. > :41:54.And just this week, Time Magazine have asked

:41:55. > :42:08.At Turnberry in Scotland, it was taken down the other week. So they

:42:09. > :42:10.got wind of it. I think this probably says more about the nature

:42:11. > :42:20.of this president than it does about fake news. I was at Turnberry with

:42:21. > :42:27.him about this time of year ago and the name Trump appears everywhere

:42:28. > :42:30.you go on every tee box, on every yardage marker, everywhere in the

:42:31. > :42:36.clubhouse. On every piece of merchandise you will find. And this

:42:37. > :42:41.theme, I sent my spies to the Washington office. These are the

:42:42. > :42:48.famous people who sat behind the microphone, these are the people I

:42:49. > :42:56.found. Do you want to explain this? Where am I? Why am I not on this.

:42:57. > :43:06.You've got some explaining to do. Guys, that is a fake news Time

:43:07. > :43:08.magazine cover. Go away! Thanks for watching.