Conference 2016: UKIP Wales

:00:00. > :00:09.As the battle ahead of May's Assembly elections hots up, Ukip say

:00:10. > :00:10.thay Assembly elections hots up, Ukip say

:00:11. > :00:11.they could be on the verge of geptang

:00:12. > :00:13.they could be on the verge of getting their first seats in Cardiff

:00:14. > :00:25.Bay. Welcome to Conference 2016. Good afternoon. Welcome to

:00:26. > :00:31.of our spring Good afternoon. Welcome to

:00:32. > :00:32.conference programmes. We have had Good afternoon. Welcome to

:00:33. > :00:34.the Lib Dems and Labour. Plaid Cymru Good afternoon. Welcome to

:00:35. > :00:37.and the Conservatives still to come. and dhe Cnncervatives still to come.

:00:38. > :00:40.But today it's Ukip's turn to take But today id's Ukip's turn to take

:00:41. > :00:42.centre stage at But today id's Ukip's turn to take

:00:43. > :00:43.celtre stage at their But today id's Ukip's turn to take

:00:44. > :00:43.centre stage at their conference at But today id's Ukip's turn to take

:00:44. > :00:44.Venue ympu. But today id's Ukip's turn to take

:00:45. > :00:46.Venue Cymru. You too can join But today id's Ukip's turn to take

:00:47. > :00:48.debate on Twitter. Here to guide But today id's Ukip's turn to take

:00:49. > :00:49.debade on Tgittep. Here to guide us debate on Twitter. Here to guide us

:00:50. > :00:49.throegh debate on Twitter. Here to guide us

:00:50. > :00:53.through this afternoon's proceedings debate on Twitter. Here to guide us

:00:54. > :00:55.is our Welsh affairs editor. debate on Twitter. Here to guide us

:00:56. > :00:58.Vaughan, we are in new territory as Vaqghan, ve are hn new territory as

:00:59. > :01:00.far as Welsh politics are concerned, we have a party who, according to

:01:01. > :01:01.opinion polls, could have we have a party who, according to

:01:02. > :01:02.opinaon pnlls, could have as m`ny we have a party who, according to

:01:03. > :01:02.opinion polls, could have as many as ten

:01:03. > :01:03.opinion polls, could have as many as tel members in

:01:04. > :01:03.opinion polls, could have as many as ten members in Cardiff Bay after

:01:04. > :01:05.opinion polls, could have as many as May. But it's a party that doesn't

:01:06. > :01:06.May. But ht's a party that doesn't have a

:01:07. > :01:07.May. But ht's a party that doesn't hate a tracc

:01:08. > :01:08.May. But ht's a party that doesn't have a track record in the Assembly,

:01:09. > :01:10.May. But ht's a party that doesn't so how do we square that circle? The

:01:11. > :01:12.so how do we squ`re that circle? The opinion polls suggest that Ukip are

:01:13. > :01:15.so how do we squ`re that circle? The going to win at least five seats in

:01:16. > :01:15.tha going to win at least five seats in

:01:16. > :01:17.the Assembly election. We the Assem`lq electaon. Ve had nur

:01:18. > :01:18.fingers burned by opinion the Assem`lq electaon. Ve had nur

:01:19. > :01:19.filgers btrned by opinion polls last the Assem`lq electaon. Ve had nur

:01:20. > :01:21.year. But when you look at the the Assem`lq electaon. Ve had nur

:01:22. > :01:25.voting system for the Assembly it voting syrtem fop the Assembly it

:01:26. > :01:27.would be extraordinary if they didn't

:01:28. > :01:29.would be extraordinary if they All the smart money is on Ukip to

:01:30. > :01:32.Alh dhe slabt moleq is nn Ukip to make a breakthrough. Of

:01:33. > :01:33.Alh dhe slabt moleq is nn Ukip to they're doing that in a sense when

:01:34. > :01:34.Alh dhe slabt moleq is nn Ukip to their mind is on

:01:35. > :01:35.Alh dhe slabt moleq is nn Ukip to theib mind is on somethhng

:01:36. > :01:37.their mind is on something else, which is the referendum that

:01:38. > :01:40.their mind is on something else, just eight weeks later. How that

:01:41. > :01:41.wihl just eight weeks later. How that

:01:42. > :01:45.will impact on the elections no one is sure. It may be that it puts

:01:46. > :01:45.will impact on the elections no one Europe front

:01:46. > :01:46.will impact on the elections no one Eupope frond and centre

:01:47. > :01:46.will impact on the elections no one Europe front and centre and helps

:01:47. > :01:48.Ukip. Or they may find Europe front and centre and helps

:01:49. > :01:49.Ukip. r they max find resources Europe front and centre and helps

:01:50. > :01:49.Ukip. Or they may find resources are Europe front and centre and helps

:01:50. > :01:52.a bit stretched as they Europe front and centre and helps

:01:53. > :01:52.a `id stretched as they are Europe front and centre and helps

:01:53. > :01:52.a bit stretched as they are fighting Europe front and centre and helps

:01:53. > :01:53.on two fronds at Europe front and centre and helps

:01:54. > :01:56.on two fronts at the same time. Europe front and centre and helps

:01:57. > :01:57.Lep's not ignore how Europe front and centre and helps

:01:58. > :02:00.an achievement this is for Ukip. Europe front and centre and helps

:02:01. > :02:04.It's a party that's been around Europe front and centre and helps

:02:05. > :02:05.20-plus years. To come now to being Europe front and centre and helps

:02:06. > :02:09.on the verge of substantial on t`e vepge of rubstantial

:02:10. > :02:10.representation in the Assembly election,

:02:11. > :02:10.representation in the Assembly elacdion, and

:02:11. > :02:12.representation in the Assembly election, and to have achieved

:02:13. > :02:13.representation in the Assembly European referendum, that

:02:14. > :02:13.representation in the Assembly Eupopean peferendum, that European

:02:14. > :02:13.European referendum, that European referendum wouldn't be

:02:14. > :02:15.European referendum, that European referendul gouldl't be tacing

:02:16. > :02:18.European referendum, that European if it wasn't for Ukip. So, this is a

:02:19. > :02:20.European referendum, that European party that has broken through in a

:02:21. > :02:21.European referendum, that European sense on the issue of the

:02:22. > :02:24.European referendum, that European referendum. The question is now to

:02:25. > :02:25.redebendul. The puestion as now to establish themselves permanently

:02:26. > :02:27.redebendul. The puestion as now to a force in Welsh and British

:02:28. > :02:29.redebendul. The puestion as now to politics. It's a big challenge

:02:30. > :02:30.pohidics. Id's a bag ch`llenge for Ukip over the next few months

:02:31. > :02:30.becaese Ukip over the next few months

:02:31. > :02:33.because it's a party that's becaese it'c a p`rty th`t's

:02:34. > :02:33.traditionally becaese it'c a p`rty th`t's

:02:34. > :02:36.tradation`lly been a tradition`lly been a single isrue

:02:37. > :02:37.party which now also has to have pohicies

:02:38. > :02:37.party which now also has to have policies in devolved

:02:38. > :02:39.party which now also has to have pohicies in devolved areas in

:02:40. > :02:41.party which now also has to have and education and so on. Are they

:02:42. > :02:42.party which now also has to have being drawn out of their comfort

:02:43. > :02:44.being dravn out nf their comfort zone? They're having to

:02:45. > :02:45.zone? They'be hating to adapt. Because one of the things they've

:02:46. > :02:47.Becaese ole of the thinfs they made very clear

:02:48. > :02:47.Becaese ole of the thinfs they ma`e very clear hs that t`ey

:02:48. > :02:48.Becaese ole of the thinfs they made very clear is that they want to

:02:49. > :02:50.go into the Assembly as made very clear is that they want to

:02:51. > :02:56.constructive force. They're not colsdructive force. hey're not

:02:57. > :02:58.going in to disrupt as some would say they've tried to do in the

:02:59. > :03:02.going in to disrupt as some would European Parliament. They say we

:03:03. > :03:05.want to m`ke this work, European Parliament. They say we

:03:06. > :03:08.want to make this work, deliver decent

:03:09. > :03:10.want to make this work, deliver to come up with policies and we are

:03:11. > :03:11.beginning to hear some of those. Thare

:03:12. > :03:14.beginning to hear some of those. There is a Coe herent set

:03:15. > :03:18.beginning to hear some of those. policies -- coherent. They've had

:03:19. > :03:19.beginning to hear some of those. difficulty with candidate selection

:03:20. > :03:20.beginning to hear some of those. coherently but they're in a good

:03:21. > :03:23.place. Leading the charge coherently but they're in a good

:03:24. > :03:26.place. Leadang the charge on behalf coherently but they're in a good

:03:27. > :03:27.of Ukip is the party leader Nigel Farage who joins

:03:28. > :03:27.of Ukip is the party leader Nigel Fapage who boins us

:03:28. > :03:28.of Ukip is the party leader Nigel Farage who joins us now

:03:29. > :03:29.of Ukip is the party leader Nigel venue in Llandudno.

:03:30. > :03:29.of Ukip is the party leader Nigel venue in Llandudlo. Good afternoon

:03:30. > :03:32.venue in Llandudno. Good afternoon to you. Good afternoon. There is a

:03:33. > :03:33.venue in Llandudno. Good afternoon busy few months coming for you

:03:34. > :03:35.busy few lonths boming for you and all the other political parties in

:03:36. > :03:39.Wales with an Assembly election and all the other political parties in

:03:40. > :03:41.the referendum. What's the top priority dob Ukip over the next

:03:42. > :03:42.the referendum. What's the top months,

:03:43. > :03:43.the referendum. What's the top molt`s, is

:03:44. > :03:44.the referendum. What's the top months, is it the Assembly elections

:03:45. > :03:47.the referendum. What's the top or is it the in-out referendum?

:03:48. > :03:47.or ic it the in-out referendum> Well,

:03:48. > :03:48.or ic it the in-out referendum> Wehl, they'be both

:03:49. > :03:50.or ic it the in-out referendum> Well, they're both important. But

:03:51. > :03:52.or ic it the in-out referendum> let's be frank, this referendum and

:03:53. > :03:54.or ic it the in-out referendum> our continued membership of the

:03:55. > :03:54.or ic it the in-out referendum> European Union is the most

:03:55. > :03:55.or ic it the in-out referendum> Euro`ean Tnaon is the mnst important

:03:56. > :03:57.Eupopean Tnaon is the mnst impnrtant political question any of us

:03:58. > :04:00.Eupopean Tnaon is the mnst impnrtant answer in our life Times. That won't

:04:01. > :04:01.Eupopean Tnaon is the mnst impnrtant go agay. H guess

:04:02. > :04:02.Eupopean Tnaon is the mnst impnrtant go away. I guess in a sense the

:04:03. > :04:05.go agay. H guess in a sdnse thd Assembly elections

:04:06. > :04:06.go agay. H guess in a sdnse thd and there are legitimate

:04:07. > :04:07.go agay. H guess in a sdnse thd an` dhere abe legitimate big

:04:08. > :04:07.go agay. H guess in a sdnse thd and there are legitimate big debates

:04:08. > :04:09.and there abe legitimate big ddbates about devolved powers in

:04:10. > :04:11.about devnlfed pnwers in Wales, about how health service

:04:12. > :04:14.about devnlfed pnwers in Wales, for example, has really not kept up

:04:15. > :04:16.about devnlfed pnwers in Wales, with the rest of the United Kingdom

:04:17. > :04:16.an` with the rest of the United Kingdom

:04:17. > :04:17.and dhey're with the rest of the United Kingdom

:04:18. > :04:19.and they're legitimate, valid with the rest of the United Kingdom

:04:20. > :04:23.debates in Assembly elections but I think if we are honest about it the

:04:24. > :04:24.debates in Assembly elections but I shadow of the European

:04:25. > :04:24.debates in Assembly elections but I shadow of t`e Eupopean referendum

:04:25. > :04:25.debates in Assembly elections but I will hang very

:04:26. > :04:27.debates in Assembly elections but I wihl hang very hdavily nver thdse

:04:28. > :04:27.debates in Assembly elections but I elections. When your candidates are

:04:28. > :04:30.knoccing elections. When your candidates are

:04:31. > :04:32.knocking on doors in Wales and people are telling them they've got

:04:33. > :04:34.people are dellilg them t`ey'vd got concerns about waiting times in the

:04:35. > :04:35.concerns `bout waiting times in the NHS, the standard of education, GCSE

:04:36. > :04:38.NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE results and

:04:39. > :04:41.NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE will be telling them that's

:04:42. > :04:44.NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE secondary concern compared to the

:04:45. > :04:44.NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE refebendul? No,

:04:45. > :04:45.NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE referendum? No, I am not saying

:04:46. > :04:48.NHS, the rtandard of edtcation, GCSE that. Our Acsembly election

:04:49. > :04:50.candidates will campaign on caldadates gill bampaign on thnse

:04:51. > :04:52.things and bear in mind, I heard caldadates gill bampaign on thnse

:04:53. > :04:54.your debate caldadates gill bampaign on thnse

:04:55. > :04:54.yoqr debate earlier about Ukip being your debate earlier about Ukip being

:04:55. > :04:56.a single issue party. Don't your debate earlier about Ukip being

:04:57. > :04:58.a single hscue party. Don't forget a single issue party. Don't forget

:04:59. > :04:59.that our manifesto at last year's genebal

:05:00. > :05:02.that our manifesto at last year's general election was the first

:05:03. > :05:05.genebal election was thd first ever manifesto in British politics

:05:06. > :05:08.independently costed and aut itted inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

:05:09. > :05:09.and -- audited inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

:05:10. > :05:10.and -- audided and won videspread inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

:05:11. > :05:14.aclam. We have been working hard. inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

:05:15. > :05:14.Our candidates will campaign on inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

:05:15. > :05:18.relevant issues for Wales but I inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

:05:19. > :05:21.repeat the point, the overhang of inde`endeltly costed and aut itted

:05:22. > :05:21.this referendum, it must make a big difference.

:05:22. > :05:22.this referendum, it must make a big didference. We

:05:23. > :05:24.this referendum, it must make a big in a minute. If I can turn to the

:05:25. > :05:27.this referendum, it must make a big Assembly elections. For years, the

:05:28. > :05:28.Assembly dlectiols. or years, the party with devolution

:05:29. > :05:30.Assembly dlectiols. or years, the you want to shake things up

:05:31. > :05:32.Assembly dlectiols. or years, the Cardiff Bay. This has

:05:33. > :05:34.Assembly dlectiols. or years, the a journey for Ukip. Why are you

:05:35. > :05:37.Assembly dlectiols. or years, the so for the Assembly when you

:05:38. > :05:37.Assembly dlectiols. or years, the so for thd Assem`ly when qou weren't

:05:38. > :05:40.Assembly dlectiols. or years, the in the past? Well, half of Wales

:05:41. > :05:43.in the part? ell, half of Wales were Assembly deniers. Don't forget

:05:44. > :05:45.in the part? ell, half of Wales this referendum got through with a

:05:46. > :05:47.in the part? ell, half of Wales majority of 7,000

:05:48. > :05:48.in the part? ell, half of Wales mahobity nf 7,000 votes. At

:05:49. > :05:51.majority of 7,000 votes. It really was a cigarette paper that said yes

:05:52. > :05:53.to setting up the devolved Assembly. was a cigarette paper that said yes

:05:54. > :05:55.Look, for a couple of years was a cigarette paper that said yes

:05:56. > :05:58.that, you know, Ukip took a position that, you know, Tkap took a position

:05:59. > :06:02.on Wales that was against devolution. I was very much

:06:03. > :06:04.on Wales that was against driving force behind saying actually

:06:05. > :06:05.on Wales that was against logically Ukip should be the party

:06:06. > :06:08.logically Ucip should bd the p`rty of devolution. We want powers to be

:06:09. > :06:08.logically Ucip should bd the p`rty devolved from Brussels

:06:09. > :06:09.logically Ucip should bd the p`rty detolved drom Brussels to the

:06:10. > :06:09.logically Ucip should bd the p`rty devolved from Brussels to the United

:06:10. > :06:10.Kingdom. We devolved from Brussels to the United

:06:11. > :06:12.Kingdom. Ve want devolved from Brussels to the United

:06:13. > :06:14.Kingdom. We want powers in the devolved from Brussels to the United

:06:15. > :06:15.devolved down to devolved from Brussels to the United

:06:16. > :06:16.devolved dogn to County Councils devolved from Brussels to the United

:06:17. > :06:16.regional @ssemblies devolved from Brussels to the United

:06:17. > :06:18.regional Assemblies and parliaments devolved from Brussels to the United

:06:19. > :06:19.and the ultimate devolution is we devolved from Brussels to the United

:06:20. > :06:21.brief in direct democracy and brief in dibect democraby and ve

:06:22. > :06:23.would like to see people able to brief in dibect democraby and ve

:06:24. > :06:25.call referendums on issues that brief in dibect democraby and ve

:06:26. > :06:30.affect them. That's ancient history. That's dealt with. The Assembly is

:06:31. > :06:34.affect them. That's ancient history. there. Does it have anything to

:06:35. > :06:36.affect them. That's ancient history. with the proportional nature of

:06:37. > :06:38.affect them. That's ancient history. election here in Wales and you

:06:39. > :06:39.affect them. That's ancient history. selsed an opportunaty to

:06:40. > :06:39.affect them. That's ancient history. sensed an opportunity to have

:06:40. > :06:40.affect them. That's ancient history. elected representatives because you

:06:41. > :06:42.failed to achieve that elected representatives because you

:06:43. > :06:43.failed to achievd that `t elected representatives because you

:06:44. > :06:46.Westminster in any great numbers? Westminster in aly great numbers?

:06:47. > :06:49.Well, look, you are talking to the leader of the party that won the

:06:50. > :06:49.Euro`ean leader of the party that won the

:06:50. > :06:51.European elections in 2014, the European dlectiols in 2014, thd

:06:52. > :06:52.first party to win a national European dlectiols in 2014, thd

:06:53. > :06:54.election since 1906, that wasn't the elacdion rince 1806, th`t wasn the

:06:55. > :06:56.leader of the Labour leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

:06:57. > :06:58.Party. leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

:06:59. > :07:00.Paptq. You know, our electional leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

:07:01. > :07:01.achievements in any form of PR are leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

:07:02. > :07:03.amazing, the general leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

:07:04. > :07:07.was the cruellest blow ever dealt leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

:07:08. > :07:07.a political party winning four leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

:07:08. > :07:08.million votes and getting one seat. leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

:07:09. > :07:10.I will say dhis leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

:07:11. > :07:10.I will say this to leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

:07:11. > :07:10.I will say dhis to you, leader of t`e La`our or Conservative

:07:11. > :07:13.I will say this to you, I think Ukip I will sax dhis to you, I thinj Ukip

:07:14. > :07:15.will win seats in Northern Ireland, in Scotland, in London and in Wales.

:07:16. > :07:17.will win seats in Northern Ireland, And in doing that we will be

:07:18. > :07:18.will win seats in Northern Ireland, only party in the UK

:07:19. > :07:22.onhy party an thd UK winnang sdats in all four of those areas. There is

:07:23. > :07:25.no question that given there is a PR in all four of those areas. There is

:07:26. > :07:27.element, the results for the Welsh Assembly elections will be a lot

:07:28. > :07:28.element, the results for the Welsh fairer than the results were for

:07:29. > :07:30.fairer th`n the pesults were for last year's general election.

:07:31. > :07:33.fairer th`n the pesults were for have been on a sticky wicket in

:07:34. > :07:34.termc have been on a sticky wicket in

:07:35. > :07:35.terms of trying to select candidates termc of trqing to select candhdates

:07:36. > :07:37.to represent Ukip on the regional termc of trqing to select candhdates

:07:38. > :07:41.list in Wales. It's taken you list in W`les. It's takdn you

:07:42. > :07:42.months. We still have no clarity. Is that because you want to keep

:07:43. > :07:43.contbol that because you want to keep

:07:44. > :07:44.control or do you not trust that because you want to keep

:07:45. > :07:45.coltbol op do you not trust thd control or do you not trust the

:07:46. > :07:45.meibership control or do you not trust the

:07:46. > :07:45.membership an control or do you not trust the

:07:46. > :07:46.membership in Wales to control or do you not trust the

:07:47. > :07:46.membership an Wales to lace the membership in Wales to make the

:07:47. > :07:46.decicion? membership in Wales to make the

:07:47. > :07:50.decision? Oh, no. A list membership in Wales to make the

:07:51. > :07:52.decicion? Oh, no, A list was given decicion? O`, no, A list was ghven

:07:53. > :07:56.to you and by all accounts you used a veto and decided to go your own

:07:57. > :07:58.to you and by all accounts you used way. I decided very much to go my

:07:59. > :08:00.to you and by all accounts you used own way with this. I said to the

:08:01. > :08:03.ruling body of the party at one ruling body of the party at ond

:08:04. > :08:07.meeting that I succeeded at a second ruling body of the party at ond

:08:08. > :08:09.meeting, let's end the argument, give the Welsh members the right to

:08:10. > :08:11.make that decision. Devolution, you give the Welsh members the right to

:08:12. > :08:13.see, I believe in devolution within give the Welsh members the right to

:08:14. > :08:16.Ukip too. They will make their give the Welsh members the right to

:08:17. > :08:17.decision and we will know that on decicion `nd we vill knnw that on

:08:18. > :08:19.7th March and that's the list and 7th March and th`t's thd list `nd

:08:20. > :08:20.that's the order that we will 7th March and th`t's thd list `nd

:08:21. > :08:20.that's thd order t`at we will go 7th March and th`t's thd list `nd

:08:21. > :08:23.with. I mean, look, to be honest 7th March and th`t's thd list `nd

:08:24. > :08:25.with you, you know, years ago when 7th March and th`t's thd list `nd

:08:26. > :08:27.Ukip had no hope of winning seats Ukip had lo hope of winning seats

:08:28. > :08:32.get ago candidate list was Ukip had lo hope of winning seats

:08:33. > :08:33.easy. Now it's a very competitive process because people

:08:34. > :08:34.easy. Now it's a very competitive we can win

:08:35. > :08:35.easy. Now it's a very competitive we can wil between

:08:36. > :08:35.easy. Now it's a very competitive we can win between 5-10

:08:36. > :08:35.easy. Now it's a very competitive we can wil between 5-10 seats hn

:08:36. > :08:37.these we can wil between 5-10 seats hn

:08:38. > :08:37.thase electaons. Many pdople we can wil between 5-10 seats hn

:08:38. > :08:39.these elections. Many people within the party in Wales are

:08:40. > :08:39.these elections. Many people within the `arty in Wales are very

:08:40. > :08:40.these elections. Many people within the party in Wales are very unhappy

:08:41. > :08:42.these elections. Many people within at the prospect of having the likes

:08:43. > :08:44.these elections. Many people within of Neil Hamilton and Mark Reckless

:08:45. > :08:45.of Neil Hamalton and Mark Reckless standing dob Ukip

:08:46. > :08:48.of Neil Hamalton and Mark Reckless standing for Ukip in Wales. Well, if

:08:49. > :08:49.of Neil Hamalton and Mark Reckless members in Wales are unhappy

:08:50. > :08:51.members il Gales are unhappy with some of the candidates that are

:08:52. > :08:53.soie of the candhdates that are standing, they now have the absolute

:08:54. > :08:53.poweb standing, they now have the absolute

:08:54. > :08:53.power to standing, they now have the absolute

:08:54. > :08:53.poweb to deal standing, they now have the absolute

:08:54. > :08:56.power to deal with that issue by not poweb to deal with that issue by not

:08:57. > :09:01.voting for them. It's called democracy. It generally works pretty

:09:02. > :09:02.voting for them. It's called well. OK on

:09:03. > :09:03.voting for them. It's called well. OK nn Europe, in

:09:04. > :09:04.voting for them. It's called well. OK on Europe, in your speech

:09:05. > :09:07.today you made an today you made al accus`taon that

:09:08. > :09:10.the in campaign was putting today you made al accus`taon that

:09:11. > :09:10.the in calpaign vas putting forwarD the in campaign was putting forward

:09:11. > :09:13.hysterical arguments, in the same the in campaign was putting forward

:09:14. > :09:16.speech you referred to people with guns driving across Europe. Is there

:09:17. > :09:19.an element of hysteria in that guns driving across Europe. Is there

:09:20. > :09:21.argument? No, I am happy for you to guns driving across Europe. Is there

:09:22. > :09:24.criticise me but you have to guns driving across Europe. Is there

:09:25. > :09:25.right, old son. I did not use guns right, old con. H did nnt use funs

:09:26. > :09:26.today. right, old con. H did nnt use funs

:09:27. > :09:28.todaq. If it wasl't right, old con. H did nnt use funs

:09:29. > :09:28.today. If it wasn't you, right, old con. H did nnt use funs

:09:29. > :09:29.todaq. If it wasl't you, at was thE right, old con. H did nnt use funs

:09:30. > :09:31.leader in Wales, it was the leader right, old con. H did nnt use funs

:09:32. > :09:33.of Ukip in right, old con. H did nnt use funs

:09:34. > :09:34.of Ucip il Gales w`o right, old con. H did nnt use funs

:09:35. > :09:36.of Ukip in Wales who used that term. Forgive me if you didn't.

:09:37. > :09:38.of Ukip in Wales who used that term. admitted yourself you did use those

:09:39. > :09:41.of Ukip in Wales who used that term. words in the past anyway. The point

:09:42. > :09:43.wopdc in the past anywax. The point remains the same. Isn't

:09:44. > :09:43.wopdc in the past anywax. The point reiaans the same, Asn't t`at also

:09:44. > :09:48.wopdc in the past anywax. The point hysterical. Let's not argue abnut

:09:49. > :09:48.it. Two of those eight people that caqsed

:09:49. > :09:52.it. Two of those eight people that caused the deaths of all those

:09:53. > :09:53.people in Paris got back into the European

:09:54. > :09:54.people in Paris got back into the Euro`ean Tnaon

:09:55. > :09:54.people in Paris got back into the European Union through

:09:55. > :09:56.people in Paris got back into the Euro`ean Tnaon through the

:09:57. > :09:56.people in Paris got back into the European Union through the Greek

:09:57. > :09:57.people in Paris got back into the Islands

:09:58. > :09:59.people in Paris got back into the Ishands posing ar

:10:00. > :10:00.people in Paris got back into the Islands posing as migrants and last

:10:01. > :10:03.weak Islands posing as migrants and last

:10:04. > :10:05.week the boss of Islands posing as migrants and last

:10:06. > :10:08.week the bocs of Europol said ve Islands posing as migrants and last

:10:09. > :10:11.week the boss of Europol said we now have between 3-5,000

:10:12. > :10:12.week the boss of Europol said we now terrorists living in mainland

:10:13. > :10:12.week the boss of Europol said we now terrorists livinf an mahnland Durope

:10:13. > :10:12.terrorists living in mainland Europe coie

:10:13. > :10:13.terrorists living in mainland Europe come in through borders. This is

:10:14. > :10:15.terrorists living in mainland Europe serious. Very serious.

:10:16. > :10:15.terrorists living in mainland Europe sepious. Teby serious. H

:10:16. > :10:16.terrorists living in mainland Europe serious. Very serious. I am not

:10:17. > :10:17.making anx grave predictions about serious. Very serious. I am not

:10:18. > :10:19.what will happen in the future. But serious. Very serious. I am not

:10:20. > :10:21.I am saying we need to serious. Very serious. I am not

:10:22. > :10:21.I am sayilg we nded to be serious. Very serious. I am not

:10:22. > :10:21.I am saying we need to be on red serious. Very serious. I am not

:10:22. > :10:25.alert and I am saying that serious. Very serious. I am not

:10:26. > :10:25.people that are arriving through Graece

:10:26. > :10:27.people that are arriving through Greece and by the way so far this

:10:28. > :10:30.people that are arriving through year 15 times the number who came

:10:31. > :10:32.people that are arriving through last year have arrived, we have no

:10:33. > :10:32.mephod, last year have arrived, we have no

:10:33. > :10:33.method, no ability last year have arrived, we have no

:10:34. > :10:35.mephod, nn ability to method, no ability to check their

:10:36. > :10:37.backgrounds and that's a method, no ability to check their

:10:38. > :10:38.backgrounds and that's ` very method, no ability to check their

:10:39. > :10:39.serious sdcerity method, no ability to check their

:10:40. > :10:40.serious security concern. I think France and Germany now have a

:10:41. > :10:42.serious security concern. I think massive problem with this. I am

:10:43. > :10:44.massive ppoblem vith thhs. I al sorry for them. But I believe

:10:45. > :10:45.sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that by divorcing ourselves from

:10:46. > :10:47.sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that political union, by

:10:48. > :10:47.sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that control

:10:48. > :10:48.sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that coltrol od

:10:49. > :10:50.sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that control of our borders, we give

:10:51. > :10:51.sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that ourselves the best possible level of

:10:52. > :10:54.sorrq for t`em. @ut bdlaeve that protection against these

:10:55. > :10:55.protectiol againrt thesd people. On the economic arguments, Great

:10:56. > :10:58.tha economic argtments, Great Britain is a net contributor to the

:10:59. > :11:00.tha economic argtments, Great UK, Wales is a net beneficiary. You

:11:01. > :11:06.tha economic argtments, Great can not give a guarantee, can you,

:11:07. > :11:06.that the money that Wales gets from that the money that Wales gets from

:11:07. > :11:07.the European Union would be that the money that Wales gets from

:11:08. > :11:12.safeguarded by the UK Government? that the money that Wales gets from

:11:13. > :11:15.You can in the give that definite guarantee, can you? Well, you know,

:11:16. > :11:17.You can in the give that definite Wales and EU money is an interesting

:11:18. > :11:20.sum. Wales is 5% of the UK and the Wales and EU money is an interesting

:11:21. > :11:22.United Kingdom gives about ?20 United Kilgdom ghves abnut ?20

:11:23. > :11:23.billion a year to United Kilgdom ghves abnut ?20

:11:24. > :11:27.bihlaon a year to the EU. That United Kilgdom ghves abnut ?20

:11:28. > :11:30.prorata for Wales would be a billion. Wales gets back about 600

:11:31. > :11:34.million, half of which comes back in billion. Wales gets back about 600

:11:35. > :11:35.agricultural support. The rest comes back in ways

:11:36. > :11:35.agricultural support. The rest comes back in wayc whepe

:11:36. > :11:36.agricultural support. The rest comes back in ways where the spending is

:11:37. > :11:38.back in wayc whepe the rpendinf is determined by

:11:39. > :11:40.detebmined by thd Europdan Commission themselves. Now, I

:11:41. > :11:45.detebmined by thd Europdan there are people in the public

:11:46. > :11:46.sector on fat salaries in Cardiff who do very, very well out of

:11:47. > :11:48.who do very, very well nut of European Union funds. I do not

:11:49. > :11:49.acce`t European Union funds. I do not

:11:50. > :11:50.accept that ordilary European Union funds. I do not

:11:51. > :11:51.accept that ordinary Welsh people an`

:11:52. > :11:53.accept that ordinary Welsh people and workers are getting any

:11:54. > :11:53.accept that ordinary Welsh people an` workeps are fetting any Ben fit

:11:54. > :11:55.and workers are getting any Ben fit from this money. Bear in mind... --

:11:56. > :11:58.benefit. It's our money anyway. It's from this money. Bear in mind... --

:11:59. > :12:02.our money. The struggling from this money. Bear in mind... --

:12:03. > :12:02.farmer who has seen the price of his mihk

:12:03. > :12:03.farmer who has seen the price of his milk fall because supermarkets are

:12:04. > :12:07.farmer who has seen the price of his not passing it on, who are rather

:12:08. > :12:08.farmer who has seen the price of his dependent on the ?20,000 a year in

:12:09. > :12:09.Euro`ean dependent on the ?20,000 a year in

:12:10. > :12:11.European aid that they dependent on the ?20,000 a year in

:12:12. > :12:13.would see no difference whatsoever dependent on the ?20,000 a year in

:12:14. > :12:14.in their standard of life dependent on the ?20,000 a year in

:12:15. > :12:18.in t`eir rtandard of life if Wales in their standard of life if Wales

:12:19. > :12:22.was not a member of the European Union? Well, agricultural and

:12:23. > :12:22.was not a member of the European fisheries, we

:12:23. > :12:23.was not a member of the European fisheries, ge halded

:12:24. > :12:24.was not a member of the European European community as

:12:25. > :12:25.was not a member of the European Euro`ean bommunity as it

:12:26. > :12:26.was not a member of the European European community as it then was,

:12:27. > :12:29.back in 1973, when we joined. Prior European community as it then was,

:12:30. > :12:31.to us joining, we supported British to uc joining, we supported British

:12:32. > :12:32.agriculture. We did to uc joining, we supported British

:12:33. > :12:33.agpiculture. e did it to uc joining, we supported British

:12:34. > :12:35.agriculture. We did it properly and to uc joining, we supported British

:12:36. > :12:36.well to uc joining, we supported British

:12:37. > :12:37.wehl from 1947 olwards to uc joining, we supported British

:12:38. > :12:38.well from 1947 onwards and nobody to uc joining, we supported British

:12:39. > :12:39.but nobody is suggesting we to uc joining, we supported British

:12:40. > :12:41.but nobodx is sufgesting we wouldn t but nobody is suggesting we wouldn't

:12:42. > :12:42.make sure that the sheep farm and evarqthinf

:12:43. > :12:43.make sure that the sheep farm and everything else was given funds

:12:44. > :12:43.make sure that the sheep farm and evarqthinf else vas givdn funds to

:12:44. > :12:48.make sure that the sheep farm and make sure it could keep going to

:12:49. > :12:50.make sure that the sheep farm and avoid rural der hks.

:12:51. > :12:50.make sure that the sheep farm and avoid rural der iks. Farming will

:12:51. > :12:51.have the same level of support avoid rural der iks. Farming will

:12:52. > :12:53.have the same letel of rupport in avoid rural der iks. Farming will

:12:54. > :12:54.Wales as it has now as a member of tha

:12:55. > :12:54.Wales as it has now as a member of the European Union. Fisheries, on

:12:55. > :12:57.the Europdan nion. isheries, on the other hand, there will

:12:58. > :12:58.the Europdan nion. isheries, on massive benefit for fishing

:12:59. > :12:58.the Europdan nion. isheries, on massive bdnefit dor fishing boats

:12:59. > :12:58.the Europdan nion. isheries, on massive benefit for fishing boats in

:12:59. > :13:01.massave bdnefit dor fishing boats in Wales if we take back our own

:13:02. > :13:03.Wahec if we take back our own territorial waters. At the

:13:04. > :13:05.Wahec if we take back our own June we could possibly be in a

:13:06. > :13:05.posidion June we could possibly be in a

:13:06. > :13:06.position where Ukip has done June we could possibly be in a

:13:07. > :13:06.posidion where Ukip has done rather position where Ukip has done rather

:13:07. > :13:07.wehl position where Ukip has done rather

:13:08. > :13:09.well in the Welsh Assembly position where Ukip has done rather

:13:10. > :13:12.elections, that you have a position where Ukip has done rather

:13:13. > :13:14.representative in the Assembly. But that you have lost the

:13:15. > :13:17.that you hafe lost the referendum. Where would that leave Ukip's future

:13:18. > :13:20.that you hafe lost the referendum. as a party? I have no idea and

:13:21. > :13:26.as a party? I hate no idea and nor have you. Look, when the SNP lost

:13:27. > :13:27.as a party? I hate no idea and nor the Scottish referendum some

:13:28. > :13:29.as a party? I hate no idea and nor it's the end of the SNP and what

:13:30. > :13:31.happened was the opposite. They it's the end of the SNP and what

:13:32. > :13:31.happened wac the opposite. They went it's the end of the SNP and what

:13:32. > :13:32.on to almost have it's the end of the SNP and what

:13:33. > :13:32.on to almost havd a it's the end of the SNP and what

:13:33. > :13:33.on to almost have a landslide in the it's the end of the SNP and what

:13:34. > :13:34.parliamentary elections in Scotland. parlaamentaby elections in Scotland.

:13:35. > :13:36.I can't predict what the future is parlaamentaby elections in Scotland.

:13:37. > :13:39.going to be. What I can say is that parlaamentaby elections in Scotland.

:13:40. > :13:45.this referendum is our one chance in this refependum hs our nne chance in

:13:46. > :13:46.a lifetime to get back self-Government control and

:13:47. > :13:46.sehf-confidence self-Government control and

:13:47. > :13:47.self-confidence within the UK and I sehf-confidence vithin the UK `nd I

:13:48. > :13:50.hope the Welsh people and the hope the Velsh pdople and the rest

:13:51. > :13:53.of the British people take hope the Velsh pdople and the rest

:13:54. > :13:56.opportunity. Nigel Farage, thank you oppobtunity. igdl Farafe, thank you

:13:57. > :13:56.very much for joining us. So from ona

:13:57. > :13:58.very much for joining us. So from one leader to another. Earlier

:13:59. > :14:00.very much for joining us. So from conference heard from the party's

:14:01. > :14:00.Wehs` conference heard from the party's

:14:01. > :14:00.Welsh leader, conference heard from the party's

:14:01. > :14:00.Wels` leadeb, Nathan conference heard from the party's

:14:01. > :14:01.Welsh leader, Nathan Gill. Here conference heard from the party's

:14:02. > :14:01.Wels` leadeb, Nathan Gill. Here is Welsh leader, Nathan Gill. Here is

:14:02. > :14:02.what he had Welsh leader, Nathan Gill. Here is

:14:03. > :14:02.what he h`d to Welsh leader, Nathan Gill. Here is

:14:03. > :14:07.what he had to say. what he h`d to s`y.

:14:08. > :14:09.Thank you, conference. After more than 20 years the journey that Nigel

:14:10. > :14:12.an` a few than 20 years the journey that Nigel

:14:13. > :14:12.and a few other brave and determined men

:14:13. > :14:12.and a few other brave and determined mel and

:14:13. > :14:14.and a few other brave and determined men and women started has now

:14:15. > :14:15.and a few other brave and determined snowballed into

:14:16. > :14:15.and a few other brave and determined snowballed anto the party

:14:16. > :14:16.and a few other brave and determined snowballed into the party that

:14:17. > :14:20.snowballed anto the party that we see today. Finally, we have a

:14:21. > :14:23.snowballed anto the party that we that we hope will, forever more, be

:14:24. > :14:26.snowballed anto the party that we known as UK Independence Day.

:14:27. > :14:35.APPLAUSE known as UK Independence Day.

:14:36. > :14:40.June 23rd. We only have 16 weeks to go. 16 weeks in which we must be

:14:41. > :14:42.June 23rd. We only have 16 weeks to united. 16 weeks in which we must

:14:43. > :14:45.June 23rd. We only have 16 weeks to give every last ounce of effort. 16

:14:46. > :14:50.June 23rd. We only have 16 weeks to weeks to change the course of

:14:51. > :14:52.history for good. If you are ever going to deliver a leaflet in

:14:53. > :14:52.history for good. If you are ever life, if

:14:53. > :14:53.history for good. If you are ever lide, if xoe

:14:54. > :14:57.history for good. If you are ever life, if you are ever going to knock

:14:58. > :14:59.on a door, if you are ever going to donate to a cause, this, my friends,

:15:00. > :15:02.on a door, if you are ever going to is the time.

:15:03. > :15:07.It will be no solace to think of It wall bd no solace to t`ink nf

:15:08. > :15:09.things we could or should have done the day after the referendum.

:15:10. > :15:10.Knowang the day after the referendum.

:15:11. > :15:11.Knowing that the day after the referendum.

:15:12. > :15:11.Knowang thad we could have dond Knowing that we could have done more

:15:12. > :15:17.and didn't. It will be no solace to Knowing that we could have done more

:15:18. > :15:17.think, remember the only thing neaded

:15:18. > :15:19.think, remember the only thing needed for bad to triumph is

:15:20. > :15:21.think, remember the only thing good people to do nothing. Let's

:15:22. > :15:23.think, remember the only thing make sure that each of us can look

:15:24. > :15:26.in the mirror and make sure that each of us can look

:15:27. > :15:27.that we dhd make sure that each of us can look

:15:28. > :15:27.that we did our make sure that each of us can look

:15:28. > :15:33.that we dhd our `ll. When push comes to shove, the

:15:34. > :15:37.British people always make the right Britash pdo`le always m`ke the right

:15:38. > :15:39.decisions. decicions,

:15:40. > :15:40.I remember wondering decicions,

:15:41. > :15:41.I remember gondeping how we decicions,

:15:42. > :15:42.I remember wondering how we would evar

:15:43. > :15:43.I remember wondering how we would ever get a referendum in the first

:15:44. > :15:47.evar get ` beferendum in the first place. It always seemed like to

:15:48. > :15:50.quote from dhe place. It always seemed like to

:15:51. > :15:51.quote from the man of La place. It always seemed like to

:15:52. > :15:51.quote from dhe m`n of L` Mancha, place. It always seemed like to

:15:52. > :15:51.quote from the man of La Mancha, to place. It always seemed like to

:15:52. > :15:54.dream the impossible dream. We are a place. It always seemed like to

:15:55. > :15:55.nation of dreamers, mistakes of men nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

:15:56. > :15:56.and women nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

:15:57. > :15:56.an` gomen w`o hate never nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

:15:57. > :15:57.and women who have never been afraid nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

:15:58. > :15:57.of the nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

:15:58. > :15:59.of t`e dapk. nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

:16:00. > :16:01.of the dark. Nor the unknown, we are nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

:16:02. > :16:03.a ladion nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

:16:04. > :16:03.a nation of pioneers, nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

:16:04. > :16:03.a ladion nf pionders, in nation of dbeameps, mistaces of men

:16:04. > :16:04.a nation of pioneers, in politics an`

:16:05. > :16:07.a nation of pioneers, in politics and democracy. And we in Ukip are

:16:08. > :16:09.a nation of pioneers, in politics leading that battle now.

:16:10. > :16:11.It amazingst me that a British Prime leading that battle now.

:16:12. > :16:13.Minister that along with the leading that battle now.

:16:14. > :16:19.establishment, are now saying to leading that battle now.

:16:20. > :16:19.that a vote for Brexit is a leap inpo

:16:20. > :16:22.that a vote for Brexit is a leap into the dark. A leap into the

:16:23. > :16:27.unknown. What we should stick into the dark. A leap into the

:16:28. > :16:28.the status into the dark. A leap into the

:16:29. > :16:28.tha ctatus auo ald into the dark. A leap into the

:16:29. > :16:33.the status quo and we must vote to into the dark. A leap into the

:16:34. > :16:36.stay in our comfortable malaisd. That somehow certainty is being

:16:37. > :16:36.ruhed That somehow certainty is being

:16:37. > :16:39.ruled from abroad, with no control ruhed from abroad, with no control

:16:40. > :16:40.on the ruhed from abroad, with no control

:16:41. > :16:40.on t`e laws that govern us. ruhed from abroad, with no control

:16:41. > :16:41.on the laws that govern us. With no ruhed from abroad, with no control

:16:42. > :16:43.say on who can come into ruhed from abroad, with no control

:16:44. > :16:46.country. With no say on how we ruhed from abroad, with no control

:16:47. > :16:50.or fish, and no say on who ruhed from abroad, with no control

:16:51. > :16:54.the next member state of the EU. ruhed from abroad, with no control

:16:55. > :16:55.have no say on the very things that affect oup

:16:56. > :16:57.have no say on the very things that affect our daily lives.

:16:58. > :16:59.have no say on the very things that We have an escalating migrant

:17:00. > :16:59.crisas, We have an escalating migrant

:17:00. > :17:04.crisis, and we have another We have an escalating migrant

:17:05. > :17:06.disaster on the horizon. How is that certainty>

:17:07. > :17:10.disaster on the horizon. How is that certainty? This is bizarre. Thank

:17:11. > :17:11.heavens these people were not in charge throughout our history.

:17:12. > :17:13.heavens these people were not in charge thpoughout our hhstory. They

:17:14. > :17:16.heavens these people were not in do not know that as a people,

:17:17. > :17:18.heavens these people were not in have always taken brave

:17:19. > :17:21.heavens these people were not in is who we are. That is our

:17:22. > :17:31.is w`o we abe. That is nur character, it is in our DNA.

:17:32. > :17:31.is w`o we abe. That is nur APPLAUSE

:17:32. > :17:32.APPLAU E Thank

:17:33. > :17:32.APPLAU E Thanc heavens captain

:17:33. > :17:32.APPLAU E Thank heavens captain James Cook

:17:33. > :17:32.di`n't Thank heavens captain James Cook

:17:33. > :17:35.didn't heed any advice not to take di`n't heed any `dvice not to take

:17:36. > :17:36.his great voyage of di`n't heed any `dvice not to take

:17:37. > :17:42.because it was a leap into the dark. di`n't heed any `dvice not to take

:17:43. > :17:48.Brunel, don't make an ocean going ship out of metal, you crazy? That

:17:49. > :17:49.is a leap into the dark. Edward Jenner, injecting cow

:17:50. > :17:53.is a leap into the dark. Edward healthy people? What madness.

:17:54. > :17:56.is a leap into the dark. Edward Hudson, Drake. Livingston,

:17:57. > :17:57.is a leap into the dark. Edward Hu`son, Dpace. Livangston, rally

:17:58. > :17:58.is a leap into the dark. Edward Hudson, Drake. Livingston, rally --

:17:59. > :18:00.is a leap into the dark. Edward Raleigh. All helped shape the modern

:18:01. > :18:01.world we Raleigh. All helped shape the modern

:18:02. > :18:01.wopld we life Raleigh. All helped shape the modern

:18:02. > :18:05.world we live in by taking giant wopld we life in bq takhng giant

:18:06. > :18:07.leaps into the dark. I think we can see a pattern developing here. We

:18:08. > :18:09.leaps into the dark. I think we can are a people that have always taken

:18:10. > :18:12.brave leaps. Because if you do not are a people that have always taken

:18:13. > :18:15.do that, the are a people that have always taken

:18:16. > :18:15.do t`at, the only alternative do that, the only alternative is

:18:16. > :18:20.going backwards. There is no do that, the only alternative is

:18:21. > :18:23.standing still in this world. Either do that, the only alternative is

:18:24. > :18:23.we are developing progressing, innofatinf

:18:24. > :18:26.we are developing progressing, innovating and discovering or we are

:18:27. > :18:30.inlofatinf and dhscovering or ve are falling behind those nations who

:18:31. > :18:30.inlofatinf and dhscovering or ve are not afraid of change, and

:18:31. > :18:31.improvemelt. not afraid of change, and

:18:32. > :18:33.improvement. Well, we all know, not afraid of change, and

:18:34. > :18:36.don't we, that the EU has not afraid of change, and

:18:37. > :18:39.while the rest of the world while the rest od the world har

:18:40. > :18:44.grown and grown. Is our while the rest od the world har

:18:45. > :18:46.Minister really saying be afraid? while the rest od the world har

:18:47. > :18:50.Fear progress? Fear stand on your while the rest od the world har

:18:51. > :18:54.two feet and fear innovation, we all two feet `nd feap annov`taon, ve all

:18:55. > :18:54.know that the inners think we are nop

:18:55. > :18:56.know that the inners think we are not good enough.

:18:57. > :18:57.know that the inners think we are not good dnough. T`at we

:18:58. > :18:57.know that the inners think we are not good enough. That we cannot make

:18:58. > :19:00.know that the inners think we are our own law, and we cannot trade

:19:01. > :19:00.know that the inners think we are with the

:19:01. > :19:01.know that the inners think we are wiph the whole

:19:02. > :19:05.know that the inners think we are That we need to be governed from

:19:06. > :19:07.know that the inners think we are Brussels in order to keep

:19:08. > :19:12.Brqssels hn ordep to keep our nation secure and save our jobs. What

:19:13. > :19:14.Brqssels hn ordep to keep our nation madness. The EU's borderless

:19:15. > :19:17.dystopia is a terrorist's dream. Put dystopia hs a teprorist's dreal. Put

:19:18. > :19:19.a Kalashnikov in the boot of dystopia hs a teprorist's dreal. Put

:19:20. > :19:21.car and drive half way across car and dpife half way `cross

:19:22. > :19:22.Europe, without car and dpife half way `cross

:19:23. > :19:22.Euro`e, wit`out `eang car and dpife half way `cross

:19:23. > :19:24.Europe, without being stopped Eupo`e, wit`out `eang stopped `nd

:19:25. > :19:24.commit mass murder in any capital cipy

:19:25. > :19:27.commit mass murder in any capital city you choose. So much for

:19:28. > :19:33.city you bhoose. So much for ET protection. And the jobs line. Line.

:19:34. > :19:38.APPLAUSE. APPLAUSE.

:19:39. > :19:40.The three million jobs lie What must APPLAUSE.

:19:41. > :19:45.we do to finally kill that myth? On APPLAUSE.

:19:46. > :19:47.angle sea, the biggest employer APPLAUSE.

:19:48. > :19:49.angle sea aluminium was forced APPLAUSE.

:19:50. > :19:50.close in 00!3 APPLAUSE.

:19:51. > :19:51.close in 2013 with the loss APPLAUSE.

:19:52. > :19:56.hundreds of highly paid jobs because APPLAUSE.

:19:57. > :19:58.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here in Port Talbot has laid

:19:59. > :20:03.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here thousands of jobs, in what is

:20:04. > :20:05.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here last major manufacturing

:20:06. > :20:09.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here Once gone, all nine of Wales'

:20:10. > :20:09.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here metal

:20:10. > :20:10.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here mepal oro refinepies

:20:11. > :20:11.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here metal oro refineries would are

:20:12. > :20:13.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here destroyed since 20076789 once

:20:14. > :20:14.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here fairness is --

:20:15. > :20:14.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here fairness hs -- furnace

:20:15. > :20:15.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here fairness is -- furnace is turned off

:20:16. > :20:18.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here it will never be turned on again.

:20:19. > :20:21.of EU legislation, Tata Steel, here Why? Because in 1975 we gave away

:20:22. > :20:22.Why? Becatse in 0975 we gave avay the right to

:20:23. > :20:22.Why? Becatse in 0975 we gave avay tha bight to stop foreign

:20:23. > :20:23.Why? Becatse in 0975 we gave avay the right to stop foreign nations

:20:24. > :20:24.Why? Becatse in 0975 we gave avay from dumping cheap products on

:20:25. > :20:27.from dumphng cheap prodtcts on to our market.

:20:28. > :20:32.So with the perfect storm of EU So wath the perfect storm of ET

:20:33. > :20:32.environmental directives, pushing up enargy

:20:33. > :20:34.environmental directives, pushing up energy costs

:20:35. > :20:35.environmental directives, pushing up energy costc beynnd

:20:36. > :20:37.energy costs beyond all reason, EU directives stopping the state from

:20:38. > :20:39.energy costs beyond all reason, EU stepping into help and EU doing

:20:40. > :20:40.step`ing hndo help and DU doinf nothing to stop Chinese dumping of

:20:41. > :20:46.step`ing hndo help and DU doinf cheap steel on to our markets, we

:20:47. > :20:47.can see that Brussels really thinks aboud

:20:48. > :20:48.can see that Brussels really thinks about Wales, Welsh industry and

:20:49. > :20:52.can see that Brussels really thinks Welsh jobs. They don't give a dam.

:20:53. > :20:54.can see that Brussels really thinks This madness...

:20:55. > :20:54.APPLAU E This madness...

:20:55. > :21:01.APPLAUSE APPLAUSE. This madness...

:21:02. > :21:03.This madness has to come to an end. Tha

:21:04. > :21:04.This madness has to come to an end. The good news is that it can end,

:21:05. > :21:08.This madness has to come to an end. and it will. If we take

:21:09. > :21:09.This madness has to come to an end. and at will. f ve take t`at leap

:21:10. > :21:10.This madness has to come to an end. and it will. If we take that leap of

:21:11. > :21:12.This madness has to come to an end. faith, on 23rd June,

:21:13. > :21:12.This madness has to come to an end. faith, on 2?rd June, and

:21:13. > :21:13.This madness has to come to an end. faith, on 23rd June, and vote to

:21:14. > :21:15.This madness has to come to an end. leave the EU. This is not a leap

:21:16. > :21:17.This madness has to come to an end. into the dark, really. It is a leap

:21:18. > :21:20.This madness has to come to an end. into the light.

:21:21. > :21:22.This madness has to come to an end. actually a leap of faith.

:21:23. > :21:22.This madness has to come to an end. actually ` leap nf faith. Faith in

:21:23. > :21:26.This madness has to come to an end. our people. Faith in our own

:21:27. > :21:30.abilities. In the fact that as a abilities, An thd fact that as a

:21:31. > :21:32.nation, we have time abilities, An thd fact that as a

:21:33. > :21:33.napion, we have time after timd abilities, An thd fact that as a

:21:34. > :21:34.risen admirably to whatever the abilities, An thd fact that as a

:21:35. > :21:37.world can throw at us. And we abilities, An thd fact that as a

:21:38. > :21:37.world can t`row `t us. And we will world can throw at us. And we will

:21:38. > :21:41.again. The the good news is right again. Thd dhe gnod news as right

:21:42. > :21:43.here in Wales, there are enough here in W`les, there are enough

:21:44. > :21:48.sensible people out there who want a selsable people nut there who vant a

:21:49. > :21:51.future of freedom. A future of deiocracy,

:21:52. > :21:53.future of freedom. A future of democracy. A future where

:21:54. > :21:56.future of freedom. A future of can forge our own destiny. We

:21:57. > :21:57.future of freedom. A future of cal forge oer owl destiny. We can

:21:58. > :22:02.future of freedom. A future of bring back the 75% of laws that

:22:03. > :22:05.faceless bureaucrats in Brussels are making, from farming, fishing and

:22:06. > :22:06.faceless bureaucrats in Brussels are employment. Energy, business and

:22:07. > :22:09.faceless bureaucrats in Brussels are trade. A whole host of laws that

:22:10. > :22:11.trade. A vhole hnst of laws th`t would end up right where they

:22:12. > :22:14.trade. A vhole hnst of laws th`t belong. Here in Wales. Written for

:22:15. > :22:14.tha belong. Here in Wales. Written for

:22:15. > :22:16.the people of Wales, by the people tha `eople of Wales, by t`e people

:22:17. > :22:19.of Wales and for t`e people tha `eople of Wales, by t`e people

:22:20. > :22:20.of Wales and for the people of tha `eople of Wales, by t`e people

:22:21. > :22:24.Wales, to democratically vote on. tha `eople of Wales, by t`e people

:22:25. > :22:27.Now thaw is what I call real devolution. When we leave the EU, we

:22:28. > :22:29.wihl devolution. When we leave the EU, we

:22:30. > :22:30.will claim back the 200 mile fishing devolution. When we leave the EU, we

:22:31. > :22:32.zone round Wales and devolve it to zole round Gales and devolve it to

:22:33. > :22:34.the assembly. Think of zole round Gales and devolve it to

:22:35. > :22:34.the assem`lq. Thhnk of the zole round Gales and devolve it to

:22:35. > :22:35.the assembly. Think of the revenue that that could `ring to

:22:36. > :22:35.the assembly. Think of the revenue that that could bring to our

:22:36. > :22:37.country. coqndry.

:22:38. > :22:39.We can help our farmers farm coqndry.

:22:40. > :22:41.We can help our darmers farm in the coqndry.

:22:42. > :22:41.way they have for centuries coqndry.

:22:42. > :22:42.way dhey hafe for centuries and coqndry.

:22:43. > :22:48.the produce our produce some of the coqndry.

:22:49. > :22:50.best in the world. We can protect our industries, tap into our

:22:51. > :22:51.best in the world. We can protect of natural resources and put

:22:52. > :22:51.best in the world. We can protect of natural besoupces and put power

:22:52. > :22:59.best in the world. We can protect back into the hands of the people.

:23:00. > :22:59.To paraphrase our great Welsh poet Dyhan

:23:00. > :23:01.To paraphrase our great Welsh poet Dylan Thomas, we as a nation will

:23:02. > :23:07.Dylan homac, we as a n`taon will not go gently into that good night.

:23:08. > :23:13.Or... Or...

:23:14. > :23:20.APPLAUSE. Orientally into Or...

:23:21. > :23:25.as part of an EU superstate. APPLAU E.

:23:26. > :23:30.as part of an EU superstate. APPLAUSE. This is the land

:23:31. > :23:30.as part of an EU superstate. APPLAUSE. T`is is the land of

:23:31. > :23:30.as part of an EU superstate. APPLAUSE. This is the land of Keats

:23:31. > :23:30.an` APPLAUSE. This is the land of Keats

:23:31. > :23:34.and words worth. Tenny son and an` gords worth. Tenny ron and

:23:35. > :23:35.Shakespeare, Dickens, an` gords worth. Tenny ron and

:23:36. > :23:38.Chaucer and Tolkein, Lennon and Chaucer and Tolkdin, Lennon and

:23:39. > :23:39.McCartney. Chaucer and Tolkdin, Lennon and

:23:40. > :23:40.McCabtney, Drake Chaucer and Tolkdin, Lennon and

:23:41. > :23:45.McCartney. Drake and McCabtney. Drake and Raleagh.

:23:46. > :23:53.Faraday, Crick, Brunel, McCabtney. Drake and Raleagh.

:23:54. > :23:53.Newton. Nelson, Cromwell, Shaccletol,

:23:54. > :23:54.Newton. Nelson, Cromwell, Shackleton, Pankhurst, Hawkin.ed by

:23:55. > :23:59.Newton. Nelson, Cromwell, aer, nightingale. Scotland,

:24:00. > :23:59.Newton. Nelson, Cromwell, Lloyd George, Churchill,

:24:00. > :24:08.Newton. Nelson, Cromwell, Lloyd Geopge, Chtrchill, and FaragE.

:24:09. > :24:16.Lloyd eopge, Chtrchill, and F`rage. O

:24:17. > :24:17.APPLAUSE. We have bdcome a

:24:18. > :24:19.APPLAUSE. We have become a nation

:24:20. > :24:19.APPLAUSE. We have bdcome a nation of

:24:20. > :24:19.APPLAUSE. We have become a nation of lions led

:24:20. > :24:24.APPLAUSE. by donkeys. At this our moment of

:24:25. > :24:26.APPLAUSE. greatest need, let us have faith

:24:27. > :24:28.APPLAUSE. that the people of our land will

:24:29. > :24:35.that the people nf our land will rise to the task and vote to leave

:24:36. > :24:37.the EU. We will arm them with knowledge, and show them courage,

:24:38. > :24:40.knowledge, and show them courafe, and belief in a brighter tomorrow.

:24:41. > :24:44.knowledge, and show them courafe, The latest opinion polls here in

:24:45. > :24:53.Wales show, that we the Brexit eers The latest opinion polls here in

:24:54. > :24:53.are in the lead. Let us keep that moientum

:24:54. > :24:55.are in the lead. Let us keep that momentum going, let us keep that

:24:56. > :24:59.momentum foang, let us jeep th`t momentum going, and as a brave,

:25:00. > :25:00.momentum foang, let us jeep th`t momentum going, `nd as a brave, a

:25:01. > :25:03.momentum foang, let us jeep th`t proud nation, with self brief

:25:04. > :25:03.momentum foang, let us jeep th`t courage, Wales will vote to leave

:25:04. > :25:09.courage, Vales will vote to leave the EU. Thank you.

:25:10. > :25:10.courage, Vales will vote to leave APPLAUSE. And from Nathan Gill's

:25:11. > :25:14.courage, Vales will vote to leave leap into the dark, to the light and

:25:15. > :25:16.courage, Vales will vote to leave airy seafront of Llandudno where our

:25:17. > :25:16.repobter airy seafront of Llandudno where our

:25:17. > :25:17.reporter has some company. Good airy seafront of Llandudno where our

:25:18. > :25:23.afternoon Paul. airy seafront of Llandudno where our

:25:24. > :25:26.Afternoon. Welcome back to beautiful airy seafront of Llandudno where our

:25:27. > :25:29.Llandudno, a town just recovering from one deluge of politician, media

:25:30. > :25:31.Llandudno, a town just recovering and pressure groups, after last

:25:32. > :25:32.Llandudno, a town just recovering week's Labour Conference, now

:25:33. > :25:32.Llandudno, a town just recovering week's La`oer Colference, now ht has

:25:33. > :25:32.week's Labour Conference, now it has anot`er

:25:33. > :25:35.week's Labour Conference, now it has another one. Ukip are in town, Gala

:25:36. > :25:35.week's Labour Conference, now it has dinner last night

:25:36. > :25:36.week's Labour Conference, now it has dinner lart night and thear

:25:37. > :25:38.dinner last night and their conference today. You would think

:25:39. > :25:39.dinner last night and their the party would be in chipper

:25:40. > :25:42.tha `arty would `e in chipper spirits. It has the referendum on

:25:43. > :25:42.tha spirits. It has the referendum on

:25:43. > :25:46.the EU membership it spirits. It has the referendum on

:25:47. > :25:47.experts agree it is on the verge of a breakthrough at the

:25:48. > :25:47.a `reakthroegh at the avaalable election.

:25:48. > :25:47.a `reakthroegh at the avaalable elacdion. As

:25:48. > :25:50.a `reakthroegh at the avaalable election. As we know there has

:25:51. > :25:54.a lot of problems bubbling under. I a lot of problems bubbling under. I

:25:55. > :26:02.am joined by two members now. a lot of problems bubbling under. I

:26:03. > :26:02.Alexandra-0s. Alex a lot of problems bubbling under. I

:26:03. > :26:05.Alaxandra,0s. Alex Philip, is `ll Alexandra,0c. Alex Philip, is `ll

:26:06. > :26:08.row sip in the garden? It is in fact. There is always

:26:09. > :26:09.row sip in the garden? It is in it comes to selection process,

:26:10. > :26:09.row sip in the garden? It is in it comes to selectaon process, I

:26:10. > :26:11.it comes to selection process, I have been with the

:26:12. > :26:11.it comes to selection process, I hate been wath the party

:26:12. > :26:12.it comes to selection process, I have been with the party seven year,

:26:13. > :26:13.have been wath the party seven year, I have seen

:26:14. > :26:13.have been wath the party seven year, I hafe seen it

:26:14. > :26:14.have been wath the party seven year, I have seen it in the general

:26:15. > :26:16.have been wath the party seven year, election, European

:26:17. > :26:17.have been wath the party seven year, it to the membership to vote on is

:26:18. > :26:18.it to the membershap to vote on is probably the most democratic thing

:26:19. > :26:19.tha probably the most democratic thing

:26:20. > :26:22.the party could do, I fully support probably the most democratic thing

:26:23. > :26:22.are you probably the most democratic thing

:26:23. > :26:23.are qou klog, probably the most democratic thing

:26:24. > :26:24.are you know, this probably the most democratic thing

:26:25. > :26:28.after a resignation this week from afpeb a resagnation this week from

:26:29. > :26:31.John Atkinson, a senior organiser afpeb a resagnation this week from

:26:32. > :26:33.from the party. He said he had enough of the infighting. We

:26:34. > :26:38.enough of t`e indightinf. We gdt here and we have clearly,

:26:39. > :26:41.enough of t`e indightinf. We gdt split within the leave

:26:42. > :26:42.enough of t`e indightinf. We gdt Carswell, your MP at one, Nigel

:26:43. > :26:45.Farage or leader at the other, it Fapage or leader at the other, it

:26:46. > :26:48.seems there is so much tension Fapage or leader at the other, it

:26:49. > :26:49.internally, what can effect is that intebnally, what can effect is that

:26:50. > :26:51.having? It is politics. It happens having? It as politics. It happens

:26:52. > :26:54.in every party. We are having a more in every pabty. Ve are having ` more

:26:55. > :26:57.protracted issue and it is played in every pabty. Ve are having ` more

:26:58. > :27:00.out publicly. This happens all the time. People get

:27:01. > :27:03.out publicly. This happens all the politics. People their conviction,

:27:04. > :27:04.out publicly. This happens all the they want to do vhat

:27:05. > :27:04.out publicly. This happens all the they want to do what they

:27:05. > :27:05.out publicly. This happens all the they want to do vhat they believe In

:27:06. > :27:07.out publicly. This happens all the it is good we

:27:08. > :27:07.out publicly. This happens all the it ic good ge have

:27:08. > :27:08.out publicly. This happens all the it is good we have so many

:27:09. > :27:10.out publicly. This happens all the clamouring on the leave side. One

:27:11. > :27:11.out publicly. This happens all the those organisations

:27:12. > :27:12.out publicly. This happens all the official designation and everyone

:27:13. > :27:12.ofdicial decignation and everynne will come

:27:13. > :27:13.ofdicial decignation and everynne wihl come togethdr.

:27:14. > :27:14.ofdicial decignation and everynne will come together. It shows there

:27:15. > :27:15.ofdicial decignation and everynne is a lot of passion behind Brexit.

:27:16. > :27:19.So you know, I don't want to look at So you knnw, dnn't want to look at

:27:20. > :27:20.this negatively, people are free to decide whn

:27:21. > :27:22.this negatively, people are free to decide who they want to support. A

:27:23. > :27:24.lop decide who they want to support. A

:27:25. > :27:25.lot people are walking round with sticcers

:27:26. > :27:25.lot people are walking round with stickers of all the various

:27:26. > :27:29.lot people are walking round with organisations and there seems to be

:27:30. > :27:30.a new one cropping up every day, if you look at

:27:31. > :27:31.a new one cropping up every day, if yoq look `t the

:27:32. > :27:34.a new one cropping up every day, if having as many problems. On

:27:35. > :27:35.a new one cropping up every day, if hating as many ppoblems. On that, a

:27:36. > :27:36.having as many problems. On that, a common charge that you have thrown

:27:37. > :27:39.having as many problems. On that, a at them is they are operating on a

:27:40. > :27:41.at t`em is dhey `re operating nn a project fear. We heard Nathan Gill's

:27:42. > :27:43.at t`em is dhey `re operating nn a speech he made earlier, and one of

:27:44. > :27:47.his main lines was, the idea of a speech he made earlier, and one of

:27:48. > :27:49.terrorist driving a Kalashnikov speech he made earlier, and one of

:27:50. > :27:50.the boot across Europe to Wales. I speech he made earlier, and one of

:27:51. > :27:51.don't think he is speech he made earlier, and one of

:27:52. > :27:51.dol'd thilk he is sayinf speech he made earlier, and one of

:27:52. > :27:52.don't think he is saying to Wales. speech he made earlier, and one of

:27:53. > :27:55.He didn't say people would come speech he made earlier, and one of

:27:56. > :27:59.Kalashnikovs to Wales. What he speech he made earlier, and one of

:28:00. > :28:01.pointed out and it is speech he made earlier, and one of

:28:02. > :28:03.the massacre in Paris. We know the massabre in Paris. Ve know they

:28:04. > :28:06.came from Belgium and Syria, and the massabre in Paris. Ve know they

:28:07. > :28:06.border free the massabre in Paris. Ve know they

:28:07. > :28:06.bopder free Europe the massabre in Paris. Ve know they

:28:07. > :28:10.border free Europe allows wrong the massabre in Paris. Ve know they

:28:11. > :28:10.doers to be able to move round wiphout

:28:11. > :28:12.doers to be able to move round without passport check, under the

:28:13. > :28:12.radar, without passport check, under the

:28:13. > :28:13.radab, so he is without passport check, under the

:28:14. > :28:13.radar, so he is making a without passport check, under the

:28:14. > :28:14.ra`ab, so he is lacing ` cey radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

:28:15. > :28:14.about security, radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

:28:15. > :28:14.about securaty, which radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

:28:15. > :28:16.about security, which a lot radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

:28:17. > :28:18.people wouldn't dispute. You made a radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

:28:19. > :28:19.speech to conference this morning, radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

:28:20. > :28:21.and one od radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

:28:22. > :28:23.and one of the main messages that radar, so he is lacing ` cey pnint

:28:24. > :28:26.Ukip Wales is pushing today is an Ukip Wales as purhang today is an EU

:28:27. > :28:29.exited means more powers Ukip Wales as purhang today is an EU

:28:30. > :28:30.assembly. Some voters might be Ukip Wales as purhang today is an EU

:28:31. > :28:32.confused about what Ukip means when confesed `bout what kip means when

:28:33. > :28:35.it comes to devolution. Some confesed `bout what kip means when

:28:36. > :28:38.have seen them as more of a deVoe hate seen t`em ar more nf a deVoe

:28:39. > :28:40.sceptic party, what is the message hate seen t`em ar more nf a deVoe

:28:41. > :28:42.on devolution When we talk on devolution Whdn we talc about

:28:43. > :28:43.more powers we are on devolution Whdn we talc about

:28:44. > :28:43.mope poweps we ape talking on devolution Whdn we talc about

:28:44. > :28:44.more powers we are talking about the on devolution Whdn we talc about

:28:45. > :28:47.powers that the assembly has but the on devolution Whdn we talc about

:28:48. > :28:49.European Union are Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

:28:50. > :28:51.regulations on those areas. Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

:28:52. > :28:54.message is clear, the only way if we Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

:28:55. > :28:55.want a functional Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

:28:56. > :28:56.want a funcdional assembly, working Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

:28:57. > :28:57.in the interest of the people Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

:28:58. > :28:57.Wahec we Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

:28:58. > :28:58.Wales we have to leave the European Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

:28:59. > :28:59.Union and get control Euro`ean Tnion ape putting

:29:00. > :28:59.Union and get coltrol of Union and get control of those

:29:00. > :29:00.powers Union and get control of those

:29:01. > :29:03.powebs ag`in. Union and get control of those

:29:04. > :29:03.powers again. Turn our attention to yoqr

:29:04. > :29:04.powers again. Turn our attention to your Assembly election campaign,

:29:05. > :29:05.your Assembly election bampaign, we have heard policies this weekend,

:29:06. > :29:08.your Assembly election bampaign, we what are the kind of messages you

:29:09. > :29:09.wihl what are the kind of messages you

:29:10. > :29:14.will focus on that are Assembly election policies?

:29:15. > :29:14.Reintroducing Assembly election policies?

:29:15. > :29:15.Reindroducing grammar Assembly election policies?

:29:16. > :29:15.Reintroducing grammar schools Reindrodubing grammar sbhools vould

:29:16. > :29:20.be one. We have found the UK, Wales Reindrodubing grammar sbhools vould

:29:21. > :29:21.in term of average are sending less stqdents

:29:22. > :29:22.in term of average are sending less students to the top five

:29:23. > :29:24.in term of average are sending less universities in the UK. Cambridge,

:29:25. > :29:26.in term of average are sending less Oxford, I think that is an

:29:27. > :29:29.in term of average are sending less embarrassment we are doing that.

:29:30. > :29:30.embabrasslent we are doing that. It is about bringing social mobility.

:29:31. > :29:31.embabrasslent we are doing that. It We are talking about

:29:32. > :29:32.embabrasslent we are doing that. It We abe talking about a

:29:33. > :29:32.embabrasslent we are doing that. It We are talking about a different

:29:33. > :29:33.embabrasslent we are doing that. It type of Government in the

:29:34. > :29:35.embabrasslent we are doing that. It and we will provide a real

:29:36. > :29:37.oppocitiol. and we will provide a real

:29:38. > :29:39.opposition. What about the oppocitiol. What about the tenrion

:29:40. > :29:41.there has been and the impact that there has been ald the hmpact that

:29:42. > :29:42.could have on there has been ald the hmpact that

:29:43. > :29:43.could havd on on assembly there has been ald the hmpact that

:29:44. > :29:43.could have on on assembly group if yoq

:29:44. > :29:45.could have on on assembly group if you elect one. I mean, there has

:29:46. > :29:47.you elect one. I mean, there h`s been no secrets of the tension

:29:48. > :29:49.been no sdcbets nf the tension within this election process,

:29:50. > :29:50.been no sdcbets nf the tension once you have a group in the

:29:51. > :29:51.been no sdcbets nf the tension assembly, if that is the

:29:52. > :29:52.been no sdcbets nf the tension assembly, if that is thd case, how

:29:53. > :30:01.been no sdcbets nf the tension are you going to work together?

:30:02. > :30:02.been no sdcbets nf the tension selection process. The membership

:30:03. > :30:04.ara selection process. The membership

:30:05. > :30:04.are deciding. We can't argue with are decidhng. We can't `rgue with

:30:05. > :30:06.the democratic vote of the are decidhng. We can't `rgue with

:30:07. > :30:09.membership. We have to get on with are decidhng. We can't `rgue with

:30:10. > :30:09.the job at hand. I didn't get into pohidics

:30:10. > :30:10.the job at hand. I didn't get into politics to be someone or

:30:11. > :30:12.the job at hand. I didn't get into new friends. I got into politics to

:30:13. > :30:15.do something. So, once new friends. I got into politics to

:30:16. > :30:16.list announced we are getting list announced we are gdtting behind

:30:17. > :30:24.what the decision is and providing a list announced we are gdtting behind

:30:25. > :30:25.real opposition at the Assembly. It's become a cosy consensus, the

:30:26. > :30:27.Conservatives are what I would call Conservatives are what H would call

:30:28. > :30:31.vanilla. The Labour Government Conservatives are what H would call

:30:32. > :30:31.been an embarrassment on health, edqcation

:30:32. > :30:33.been an embarrassment on health, education and the economy. We have

:30:34. > :30:33.coie education and the economy. We have

:30:34. > :30:35.come to take education and the economy. We have

:30:36. > :30:36.One policy you are pushing this weakend

:30:37. > :30:37.One policy you are pushing this weekend is this hdea

:30:38. > :30:38.One policy you are pushing this weekend is this idea of

:30:39. > :30:40.One policy you are pushing this senior management in the NHS. But

:30:41. > :30:42.One policy you are pushing this your colleague Mark Reckless in a

:30:43. > :30:43.ra`io your colleague Mark Reckless in a

:30:44. > :30:44.radio interview on Friday couldn't say how muc` money

:30:45. > :30:45.radio interview on Friday couldn't say how much money that would

:30:46. > :30:46.radio interview on Friday couldn't How credible are

:30:47. > :30:48.radio interview on Friday couldn't How credi`le are t`ese policies?

:30:49. > :30:49.How credible are these policies? I thinc

:30:50. > :30:50.How credible are these policies? I think you have to wait before we

:30:51. > :30:51.How credible are these policies? I release our manifesto. Not all the

:30:52. > :30:52.partaes release our manifesto. Not all the

:30:53. > :30:54.parties have released their manifestos yet. There is a process

:30:55. > :30:57.parties have released their we have got. We have a date on

:30:58. > :30:57.parties have released their cahendar. You

:30:58. > :30:59.parties have released their calendar. You will see everything

:31:00. > :31:01.ouplaned calendar. You will see everything

:31:02. > :31:02.outlined of our policies. Final one to you, Alex. You

:31:03. > :31:02.outlined of our policies. Final one to you, Alep. You in

:31:03. > :31:03.outlined of our policies. Final one to you, Alex. You in media stories

:31:04. > :31:03.ovar the last to you, Alex. You in media stories

:31:04. > :31:04.over the last few months over the lact few monthr `ave been

:31:05. > :31:10.put in a category with Mark Reckless over the lact few monthr `ave been

:31:11. > :31:11.and indeed Neil Hamilton, this idea that you don't have the links to

:31:12. > :31:13.that you don't h`ve the lanks to Wales, you are not part of the

:31:14. > :31:15.that you don't h`ve the lanks to here and have

:31:16. > :31:15.that you don't h`ve the lanks to hepe and hafe been parabhuted hn,

:31:16. > :31:18.here and have been parachuted in, what some grass

:31:19. > :31:21.here and have been parachuted in, What's your response? What's your

:31:22. > :31:22.What's your respnnse? What's ynur response, we went is to school

:31:23. > :31:24.What's your respnnse? What's ynur together and I have worked at ITV

:31:25. > :31:24.Wahec together and I have worked at ITV

:31:25. > :31:25.Wales and Ucip together and I have worked at ITV

:31:26. > :31:26.Wales and Ukip Wales, I have lived together and I have worked at ITV

:31:27. > :31:28.in Cardiff most of my adult life. together and I have worked at ITV

:31:29. > :31:29.can understand there is also together and I have worked at ITV

:31:30. > :31:30.consternation when it comes together and I have worked at ITV

:31:31. > :31:30.consternation whdn it comes it consternation when it comes it a

:31:31. > :31:31.sehection consternation when it comes it a

:31:32. > :31:31.selection process. Of course people consternation when it comes it a

:31:32. > :31:33.want people with connections to consternation when it comes it a

:31:34. > :31:34.Wales, that's important. You need to consternation when it comes it a

:31:35. > :31:36.be able to represent the people be able to bepresent thd people who

:31:37. > :31:36.are going to be able to bepresent thd people who

:31:37. > :31:37.ara going to vote be able to bepresent thd people who

:31:38. > :31:39.are going to vote you in. So, I be able to bepresent thd people who

:31:40. > :31:39.dol'd thilk be able to bepresent thd people who

:31:40. > :31:40.don't think my be able to bepresent thd people who

:31:41. > :31:40.dol'd thilk my Welsh be able to bepresent thd people who

:31:41. > :31:43.don't think my Welsh credentials are in doubt. I hope actually that the

:31:44. > :31:45.meibership gill in doubt. I hope actually that the

:31:46. > :31:45.membership will be rather assuaged in doubt. I hope actually that the

:31:46. > :31:46.by that. in doubt. I hope actually that the

:31:47. > :31:46.by t`at. Do in doubt. I hope actually that the

:31:47. > :31:48.by that. Do you feel that you by that. Do you deel th`t you `nd

:31:49. > :31:51.the other members in Wales are happy by that. Do you deel th`t you `nd

:31:52. > :31:51.to share ` `latform with by that. Do you deel th`t you `nd

:31:52. > :31:52.to share a platform with Neil by that. Do you deel th`t you `nd

:31:53. > :31:55.Hamilton were he he to be Haiilton vebe he he to be selected

:31:56. > :31:56.Happy to share a platform with Happy to rhare a platform with

:31:57. > :31:56.everyone, Happy to rhare a platform with

:31:57. > :31:57.evaryone, we are all together. everyone, we are all together. Thank

:31:58. > :31:58.yoq everyone, we are all together. Thank

:31:59. > :31:58.you very luch. Back everyone, we are all together. Thank

:31:59. > :31:58.you very much. Back to everyone, we are all together. Thank

:31:59. > :31:59.you very luch. Back to you in everyone, we are all together. Thank

:32:00. > :32:01.Thank you very much. More from Paul everyone, we are all together. Thank

:32:02. > :32:02.during everyone, we are all together. Thank

:32:03. > :32:03.duping thd afterloon. everyone, we are all together. Thank

:32:04. > :32:03.during the afternoon. Earlier everyone, we are all together. Thank

:32:04. > :32:04.conference heard about the everyone, we are all together. Thank

:32:05. > :32:04.conference `eard about the problems conference heard about the problems

:32:05. > :32:06.Ukip say are facing the health conference heard about the problems

:32:07. > :32:09.service in Wales. From their candidate Caroline Jones.

:32:10. > :32:11.Thanc candidate Caroline Jones.

:32:12. > :32:11.Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. I woqld

:32:12. > :32:15.Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. I would like to speak on a devolved

:32:16. > :32:15.araa, would like to speak on a devolved

:32:16. > :32:26.area, the NHS in Wales. (Speaks in would like to speak on a devolved

:32:27. > :32:27.Welsh) Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Llandudno for

:32:28. > :32:29.Welsh) Good morning, ladies and our spring conference. As most

:32:30. > :32:31.Welsh) Good morning, ladies and people here will already know,

:32:32. > :32:33.Welsh) Good morning, ladies and health is a devolved area in

:32:34. > :32:36.Welsh) Good morning, ladies and and is under the control of the

:32:37. > :32:39.an` as undeb the control of thd Labour Government in the Welsh

:32:40. > :32:43.an` as undeb the control of thd Assembly. One expectation from this

:32:44. > :32:45.Goternment an return for the hhgh taxes we pay in Vales is

:32:46. > :32:49.Goternment an return for the hhgh taxes we pay in Wales is that our

:32:50. > :32:51.most vulnerable in society are looked after and indeed we, in our

:32:52. > :32:53.most vulnerable in society are time of need, can depend upon

:32:54. > :32:58.tiie of nded, cal depend upon the NHS to deliver a competent, caring

:32:59. > :33:01.tiie of nded, cal depend upon the and efficient service. Since records

:33:02. > :33:02.and efficient sepvace. Rince records began in 00 9,

:33:03. > :33:04.and efficient sepvace. Rince records began in 2009, A units have never

:33:05. > :33:07.and efficient sepvace. Rince records met their targets, along can cancer

:33:08. > :33:10.treatment and met their targets, along can cancer

:33:11. > :33:15.times. The Labour Government's mismanagement of our NHS has

:33:16. > :33:17.mismanagement of our NHS `as led to a shameful performance where

:33:18. > :33:21.manipulation and experimentation has a shameful performance where

:33:22. > :33:21.even taken place using a traffic lighds

:33:22. > :33:24.even taken place using a traffic lights system to place calls in

:33:25. > :33:26.order of urgency. The lights system to place calls in

:33:27. > :33:27.order of urgency, The time order of urgency. The time element

:33:28. > :33:28.can change order of urgency. The time element

:33:29. > :33:29.cal change for the patient, without order of urgency. The time element

:33:30. > :33:34.them even being aware. Changing from order of urgency. The time element

:33:35. > :33:36.amber to green without any notice at alh.

:33:37. > :33:38.amber to green without any notice at all. A chief executive of the

:33:39. > :33:41.amber to green without any notice at stated that having an ambulance

:33:42. > :33:42.arrive at a patient's door stated that having an ambulance

:33:43. > :33:44.does not translate to stated that having an ambulance

:33:45. > :33:44.doas not translate to a stated that having an ambulance

:33:45. > :33:45.does not translate to a better oupcome.

:33:46. > :33:46.does not translate to a better outcome. They would say this,

:33:47. > :33:51.wouldn't they? How else can outcome. They would say this,

:33:52. > :33:52.defend themselves? The Welsh Govebnment'c

:33:53. > :33:53.defend themselves? The Welsh Govebnment's answer

:33:54. > :33:53.defend themselves? The Welsh Government's answer to meeting these

:33:54. > :33:55.defend themselves? The Welsh targets is to move the goal posts

:33:56. > :33:57.whic` create targets is to move the goal posts

:33:58. > :33:59.which create the impression whic` create the impresrion th`t

:34:00. > :34:02.targets are being met. We need whic` create the impresrion th`t

:34:03. > :34:05.accountability and transparency from accoentabhlaty ald tranrparency from

:34:06. > :34:06.the Labour Government regarding these timds and

:34:07. > :34:08.the Labour Government regarding these times and we need to know how

:34:09. > :34:12.the Labour Government regarding the missed target times

:34:13. > :34:17.tha missed darget times have impacted upon a patient's life. We

:34:18. > :34:19.tha missed darget times have also know that 12333 hours were lost

:34:20. > :34:25.in just three months in 2015 across in jest three molt`s in 2015 abross

:34:26. > :34:26.ABMU health board in jest three molt`s in 2015 abross

:34:27. > :34:26.ABIU health board area in jest three molt`s in 2015 abross

:34:27. > :34:27.ABMU health board area because in jest three molt`s in 2015 abross

:34:28. > :34:27.ABIU health board area because of ABMU health board area because of

:34:28. > :34:28.dehaqed ABMU health board area because of

:34:29. > :34:33.delayed patients transfer to A ABMU health board area because of

:34:34. > :34:37.where ambulances were parked outside the hospitals, instead of being

:34:38. > :34:41.where ambulances were parked outside deployed to emergency calls. More

:34:42. > :34:42.morale at the ambulance service is deployed to emergency calls. More

:34:43. > :34:47.at an all-time low and figures show deployed to emergency calls. More

:34:48. > :34:50.only 51% arrived at the scene only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

:34:51. > :34:52.the eight-minute target. There are only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

:34:53. > :34:55.currently seven local health only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

:34:56. > :34:57.in Wales and they oversee all only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

:34:58. > :34:58.hospitals, only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

:34:59. > :34:59.hospatals, are responsible only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

:35:00. > :35:00.hospitals, are responsible for the only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

:35:01. > :35:00.treatment, only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

:35:01. > :35:01.traadment, meetilg of only 51% `rbived at the scene vithin

:35:02. > :35:05.treatment, meeting of targets and treatment, meetilg of targets `nd

:35:06. > :35:06.community services. Executive directors are employed by the

:35:07. > :35:09.community services. Executive boards and independent board members

:35:10. > :35:09.ara boards and independent board members

:35:10. > :35:11.are appointed by the Minister for boards and independent board members

:35:12. > :35:18.Health and Social Services. We in Healdh and Cocial Services. We in

:35:19. > :35:20.Ukip believe it is wrong for political parties to appoint friends

:35:21. > :35:21.to t`e political parties to appoint friends

:35:22. > :35:23.to the board as to t`e board as rtatistical

:35:24. > :35:27.information states that 75% of to t`e board as rtatistical

:35:28. > :35:28.chairs, vice-chairs and members of to t`e board as rtatistical

:35:29. > :35:31.these boards who have declared to t`e board as rtatistical

:35:32. > :35:35.afillation to a political party to t`e board as rtatistical

:35:36. > :35:39.indeed members of the Labour in`eed members od the L`bour Party.

:35:40. > :35:44.APPLAUSE in`eed members od the L`bour Party.

:35:45. > :35:45.Many in`eed members od the L`bour Party.

:35:46. > :35:46.Maly partiec in`eed members od the L`bour Party.

:35:47. > :35:51.Many parties accuse Ukip falsely of Many partiec accuse kip falsely of

:35:52. > :35:52.wanting to privatise the NHS. Let me be clear on this subject,

:35:53. > :35:55.conference. As a person who conference. As a person w`o suffered

:35:56. > :35:57.cancer nine years ago conference. As a person w`o suffered

:35:58. > :35:58.cancer nile years ago and conference. As a person w`o suffered

:35:59. > :36:01.cancer nine years ago and was dependent on both

:36:02. > :36:05.cancer nine years ago and was chemotherapy, I would never ever

:36:06. > :36:06.cancer nine years ago and was support a party who wanted to

:36:07. > :36:09.privatise our The routines in the

:36:10. > :36:22.APPLAUSE The routines in the

:36:23. > :36:26.hospital where I had my treatment hospital vhere I had my treatmdnt

:36:27. > :36:27.ran like clock welcome. The nurses were specially trained and

:36:28. > :36:30.were specially tpaaned `nd were second to none. How disappointing

:36:31. > :36:33.were specially tpaaned `nd were when one year later to

:36:34. > :36:33.were specially tpaaned `nd were whan one xear later to see

:36:34. > :36:34.were specially tpaaned `nd were when one year later to see that this

:36:35. > :36:38.were specially tpaaned `nd were wonderful hospital was downgraded.

:36:39. > :36:41.were specially tpaaned `nd were Therefore, Ukip will make local

:36:42. > :36:42.were specially tpaaned `nd were health boards accountable to ynu

:36:43. > :36:44.whilst at the same time halving the health boards accountable to ynu

:36:45. > :36:50.numbers of managers nuibers od managdrs getting

:36:51. > :37:01.Our policy in Ukip APPLAUSE

:37:02. > :37:04.Our policy in Ukip is simple, the NHS is free

:37:05. > :37:05.Our policy in Ukip is simple, the NHS as free at the

:37:06. > :37:10.Our policy in Ukip is simple, the NHS is free at the point of

:37:11. > :37:15.Our policy in Ukip is simple, the and that is non-negotiable. We

:37:16. > :37:15.oppoce and that is non-negotiable. We

:37:16. > :37:21.oppose T-tip. We want everyone and that is non-negotiable. We

:37:22. > :37:22.oppose T-ti`. We want everyone who and that is non-negotiable. We

:37:23. > :37:25.comes to live, work or visit to be and that is non-negotiable. We

:37:26. > :37:34.in receipt of a medical insurance as in receipt of a ledical insurance as

:37:35. > :37:38.a condition of eltry. APPLAUSE

:37:39. > :37:40.Therefore, treatment is paid for APPLAUSE

:37:41. > :37:43.the recipient and not the British taxpayer.

:37:44. > :37:48.APPLAU E taxpayer.

:37:49. > :37:54.And this insurance will save the UK taxpayer.

:37:55. > :37:56.around ?2 billion per year. We hear the excuse that there is

:37:57. > :37:58.around ?2 billion per year. We hear the excusd dhat there is no ond to

:37:59. > :38:02.monitor this process of people the excusd dhat there is no ond to

:38:03. > :38:02.receiving treatment from anywhere thay

:38:03. > :38:03.receiving treatment from anywhere they choose to

:38:04. > :38:04.receiving treatment from anywhere thay choose to come. However,

:38:05. > :38:05.receiving treatment from anywhere they choose to come. However, the

:38:06. > :38:05.receiving treatment from anywhere NHS is

:38:06. > :38:06.receiving treatment from anywhere NHS as top-`eavy

:38:07. > :38:06.receiving treatment from anywhere NHS is top-heavy on management

:38:07. > :38:07.receiving treatment from anywhere NHS as top-`eavy on management and

:38:08. > :38:12.receiving treatment from anywhere perhaps it could be suggested that

:38:13. > :38:13.this is the area responsible for monidorinf

:38:14. > :38:16.this is the area responsible for monitoring and not

:38:17. > :38:21.this is the area responsible for molidorinf and nnt the `lready

:38:22. > :38:24.heavily burdened nurses and doctors. APPLAUSE

:38:25. > :38:25.heavily burdened nurses and doctors. Cancer drugs are not

:38:26. > :38:25.heavily burdened nurses and doctors. Calcer drugc are not alwaqs

:38:26. > :38:28.Cancer drugs are not always available in Wales but they are in

:38:29. > :38:31.available in ales but they are in England. Why? Therefore, patients

:38:32. > :38:37.available in ales but they are in going across from Wales to England

:38:38. > :38:37.should not have the added burden of tha

:38:38. > :38:37.should not have the added burden of the Cf

:38:38. > :38:38.should not have the added burden of the Sf earn Bridge tolls when they

:38:39. > :38:38.repubn the Sf earn Bridge tolls when they

:38:39. > :38:39.return and ge the Sf earn Bridge tolls when they

:38:40. > :38:42.return and we in Ukip would the Sf earn Bridge tolls when they

:38:43. > :38:45.incorporate with our policies the incobporate with our policies the

:38:46. > :38:50.abolition of tolls to encourage people to come and go as they

:38:51. > :38:54.people to come ald go ar they like. - Severn.

:38:55. > :38:54.APPLAUSE Tha

:38:55. > :38:55.APPLAUSE The Labour Government in

:38:56. > :38:58.Tha Labour Goverlment in the Assembly have a habit of blaming

:38:59. > :39:00.Assembly hafe a habit of blaming the Westminster Government for lack

:39:01. > :39:02.Westminster Govepnment for lack of funding and

:39:03. > :39:04.fulding and the Bonserv`taves retaliate by blaming Labour for

:39:05. > :39:06.fulding and the Bonserv`taves mismanagement of t`e budget.

:39:07. > :39:10.Suddenly a game emerges between two with neither accepting

:39:11. > :39:11.responsibility. The two with neither accepting

:39:12. > :39:12.responsibhlity. The people Caufht two with neither accepting

:39:13. > :39:14.right in the middle of this game two with neither accepting

:39:15. > :39:19.are, of course, the patients, two with neither accepting

:39:20. > :39:22.sick and the vulnerable in society. Ukip believes it is the local

:39:23. > :39:25.councils who should lead in economic Ukip believes it is the local

:39:26. > :39:26.development as Ukip believes it is the local

:39:27. > :39:26.detelopment as theq unddrstand the detelopmelt as theq unddrstand the

:39:27. > :39:27.needs of detelopmelt as theq unddrstand the

:39:28. > :39:28.needc of these apeas detelopmelt as theq unddrstand the

:39:29. > :39:29.needs of these areas better than the neadc of these apeas better th`n the

:39:30. > :39:29.Cardiff Bay establishment neadc of these apeas better th`n the

:39:30. > :39:34.Capdaff Bay establashment and we Cardiff Bay establishment and we

:39:35. > :39:36.would therefore give them the power and dhe mnney

:39:37. > :39:36.and the money to fulfil the nececsary

:39:37. > :39:39.and the money to fulfil the necessary needs. I have a message

:39:40. > :39:41.for both Carwyn necessary needs. I have a message

:39:42. > :39:42.for both Babwyn Hones necessary needs. I have a message

:39:43. > :39:49.for both Carwyn Jones and David necessary needs. I have a message

:39:50. > :39:52.Cameron and it's simple - grow up! APPLAUSE

:39:53. > :39:53.Neit`er APPLAUSE

:39:54. > :39:54.Neither of you APPLAUSE

:39:55. > :39:55.Neit`er of qou ape children and APPLAUSE

:39:56. > :39:57.people's lives are at risc APPLAUSE

:39:58. > :39:58.people's lives are at risk and APPLAUSE

:39:59. > :39:58.people's lives are at risc and we APPLAUSE

:39:59. > :40:00.depend on you to provide stability depend on you to providd stability

:40:01. > :40:04.in the NHS in both Wales and the UK. in t`e NHS an both Wales and the UK.

:40:05. > :40:07.On behalf of the people of Wales, I in t`e NHS an both Wales and the UK.

:40:08. > :40:08.urge these two in t`e NHS an both Wales and the UK.

:40:09. > :40:08.urge thesd dwo p`rties to put in t`e NHS an both Wales and the UK.

:40:09. > :40:09.urge these two parties to put aside urge thesd dwo p`rties to put `side

:40:10. > :40:09.their loathing urge thesd dwo p`rties to put `side

:40:10. > :40:10.theib loathang od urge thesd dwo p`rties to put `side

:40:11. > :40:13.their loathing of each other along urge thesd dwo p`rties to put `side

:40:14. > :40:17.with their political urge thesd dwo p`rties to put `side

:40:18. > :40:20.accept blame where it's right to do so( anstill

:40:21. > :40:21.accept blame where it's right to do so, instill confidence in doctors,

:40:22. > :40:22.accept blame where it's right to do nurses and patients, respect the

:40:23. > :40:24.nupses and `atielts, respect the British

:40:25. > :40:24.nupses and `atielts, respect the Britash taxpayer w`o,

:40:25. > :40:25.nupses and `atielts, respect the British taxpayer who, after all,

:40:26. > :40:31.nupses and `atielts, respect the funds the NHS. Ensure our sick and

:40:32. > :40:34.nupses and `atielts, respect the vulnerable receive the

:40:35. > :40:34.nupses and `atielts, respect the they require. Work collaboratively

:40:35. > :40:34.wiph they require. Work collaboratively

:40:35. > :40:35.with all ot`er p`rties they require. Work collaboratively

:40:36. > :40:36.with all other parties for the they require. Work collaboratively

:40:37. > :40:39.benefit of Wales and belefit od Gales and our people.

:40:40. > :40:42.When we achieve these factors and belefit od Gales and our people.

:40:43. > :40:44.these points, only then can we these poiltc, only then can we

:40:45. > :40:50.regain the respect for the NHS and these poiltc, only then can we

:40:51. > :40:52.its workforce and have an NHS that once again, ladies and gentlemen, is

:40:53. > :40:57.its workforce and have an NHS that the envy of the world. Thank you.

:40:58. > :40:57.tha envy nf the vorld. Thank ynu. APPLAUSE

:40:58. > :40:58.tha envy nf the vorld. Thank ynu. That was Caroline

:40:59. > :40:59.tha envy nf the vorld. Thank ynu. That was Babolind Bones

:41:00. > :40:59.tha envy nf the vorld. Thank ynu. That was Caroline Jones with her

:41:00. > :41:01.criticism of the Welsh NHS. That was Caroline Jones with her

:41:02. > :41:04.could we go back to what we heard a That was Caroline Jones with her

:41:05. > :41:08.while ago from Paul and his guests. That was Caroline Jones with her

:41:09. > :41:12.This Ukip selection debacle in That was Caroline Jones with her

:41:13. > :41:13.Wales, trying to select people to represent the party

:41:14. > :41:16.Wales, trying to select people to represent the paptq on

:41:17. > :41:19.Wales, trying to select people to list. We heard from Alexandra

:41:20. > :41:21.Wales, trying to select people to Phillips and Llr Powell

:41:22. > :41:22.Wales, trying to select people to hoping to win

:41:23. > :41:22.Wales, trying to select people to hoping to wan a place and

:41:23. > :41:23.Wales, trying to select people to hoping to win a place and from what

:41:24. > :41:25.hoping to wan a place and from what they were saying it's water off a

:41:26. > :41:27.hoping to wan a place and from what duck's back to them. Will

:41:28. > :41:30.duck's babk to them. Will it h`rm Ukip or is dhere

:41:31. > :41:30.duck's babk to them. Will it h`rm Ukip or is there a certain type of

:41:31. > :41:32.Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of person who will vote Ukip come what

:41:33. > :41:34.Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of may, even though there might be

:41:35. > :41:36.Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of weeks of negative headlines? I

:41:37. > :41:37.Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of think,

:41:38. > :41:37.Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of thinc, firsd of

:41:38. > :41:39.Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of think, first of all, it is the case

:41:40. > :41:40.Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of that in the Assembly elections,

:41:41. > :41:43.Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of generally, when it comes to

:41:44. > :41:44.Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of regional vote people are voting

:41:45. > :41:46.Ukip or is dhere a certain typd of the party. They're not voting for

:41:47. > :41:46.tha the party. They're not voting for

:41:47. > :41:49.the candidate. So it's the party. They're not voting for

:41:50. > :41:49.different from being the party. They're not voting for

:41:50. > :41:50.didferent from being very the party. They're not voting for

:41:51. > :41:54.different from being very late the party. They're not voting for

:41:55. > :41:58.People vote party, rather than people. Having said

:41:59. > :41:58.People vote party, rather than people. Havang said that, this sort

:41:59. > :42:01.people. Having said that, this sort of argument is debilitating. They've

:42:02. > :42:01.people. Having said that, this sort lost some very good people from

:42:02. > :42:04.lost some very gnod people from their point of view, people who were

:42:05. > :42:06.lost some very gnod people from important in the party, people who

:42:07. > :42:07.worked hard for the party. important in the party, people who

:42:08. > :42:11.gone. That's damaging. gole. hat'c dam`gang. @lso, it

:42:12. > :42:12.means that gole. hat'c dam`gang. @lso, it

:42:13. > :42:12.meanc that there have been gole. hat'c dam`gang. @lso, it

:42:13. > :42:14.means that there have been continual gole. hat'c dam`gang. @lso, it

:42:15. > :42:16.stories in the press about this ongoang

:42:17. > :42:17.stories in the press about this ongoing row. Does that make much

:42:18. > :42:19.stories in the press about this difference? Does it cut through to

:42:20. > :42:21.didference? Does it cut t`rough to the Welsh public? Probably not to a

:42:22. > :42:23.didference? Does it cut t`rough to lot of voters. A lot of people won't

:42:24. > :42:25.lot of votebs. A lot of people won't even have read about this, those

:42:26. > :42:26.even have read a`out thhs, those who have read about it will

:42:27. > :42:27.even have read a`out thhs, those who hate read about ht will think, you

:42:28. > :42:29.even have read a`out thhs, those who know, this goes on in all parties,

:42:30. > :42:33.even have read a`out thhs, those who it won't affect how they're going

:42:34. > :42:38.even have read a`out thhs, those who vote. But, you know, it does typify

:42:39. > :42:44.a problem that Ukip seems to have vote. But, you know, it does typify

:42:45. > :42:45.difficulty going that extra step to becoming a fully mature, functioning

:42:46. > :42:48.difficulty going that extra step to political force. There are people in

:42:49. > :42:50.difficulty going that extra step to the party who privately say that

:42:51. > :42:50.coiec the party who privately say that

:42:51. > :42:52.comes from dhe the party who privately say that

:42:53. > :42:52.comes from the top down. That it's becaese

:42:53. > :42:55.comes from the top down. That it's because Nigel Farage is unwilling to

:42:56. > :42:57.comes from the top down. That it's share power that he wants to

:42:58. > :43:00.dominate everything. share power that he wants to

:43:01. > :43:00.doiinate everythhng. Th`t share power that he wants to

:43:01. > :43:03.dominate everything. That maybe share power that he wants to

:43:04. > :43:04.true, it may be an accusation but it's a deep-seated problem in the

:43:05. > :43:06.partq. When you it's a deep-seated problem in the

:43:07. > :43:10.party. When you come to the it's a deep-seated problem in the

:43:11. > :43:13.elections regional list seats, thaebl probably win at least one --

:43:14. > :43:14.elections regional list seats, they'll probably win at

:43:15. > :43:15.elections regional list seats, thay'll probably win at least

:43:16. > :43:16.elections regional list seats, Second seats depend on a small

:43:17. > :43:18.Second seatc depdnd on ` small number of votes, even losing a small

:43:19. > :43:20.Second seatc depdnd on ` small number can impact on your

:43:21. > :43:20.Second seatc depdnd on ` small performance. The row

:43:21. > :43:20.Second seatc depdnd on ` small pepformanbe. The row has

:43:21. > :43:21.Second seatc depdnd on ` small performance. The row has centred

:43:22. > :43:21.Second seatc depdnd on ` small pepformanbe. The row has centred on

:43:22. > :43:22.performance. The row has centred on two `eople

:43:23. > :43:23.performance. The row has centred on two people in particular, Mark

:43:24. > :43:25.performance. The row has centred on Reckless and Neil Hamilton. Two

:43:26. > :43:27.performance. The row has centred on former Members of Parliament, one

:43:28. > :43:28.performance. The row has centred on could say part of the establishment.

:43:29. > :43:30.This is the party now that says it could say part of the establishment.

:43:31. > :43:35.won't be part of the establishment could say part of the establishment.

:43:36. > :43:37.in Cardiff Bay. It wants to break up what they refer to as the cosy

:43:38. > :43:40.consensus. Is there a mixed what they refer to as the cosy

:43:41. > :43:40.colsensus, As thdre a mhxed message what they refer to as the cosy

:43:41. > :43:43.there? Ironically, of the two, what they refer to as the cosy

:43:44. > :43:46.problem is the one who what they refer to as the cosy

:43:47. > :43:49.problem is dhe ole who has what they refer to as the cosy

:43:50. > :43:49.problem is the one who has the what they refer to as the cosy

:43:50. > :43:51.Welsh bonafides, who is what they refer to as the cosy

:43:52. > :43:52.Hamilton. He has been out of Wales a Hamilton. He has been out of W`les a

:43:53. > :43:55.long time. But that's not the long time, But that's nnt the

:43:56. > :43:57.problem with Neil Hamilton. long time, But that's nnt the

:43:58. > :44:00.problem with him is that electors long time, But that's nnt the

:44:01. > :44:03.have vague memories about people in hate vagud memories about people in

:44:04. > :44:04.the past and the memories they hate vagud memories about people in

:44:05. > :44:05.the `ast and the memories they have tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:06. > :44:07.of Neil Hamilton aren't good. They tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:08. > :44:09.think, wasn't he tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:10. > :44:12.something shady? Now he would insist tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:13. > :44:13.that he was never found tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:14. > :44:13.that he was nevep found guilty tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:14. > :44:14.that he was never found guilty of tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:15. > :44:18.anything, that he never did tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:19. > :44:20.wrong. But the memories people have tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:21. > :44:23.of him, confrontations with Martin tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:24. > :44:23.Behl on tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:24. > :44:26.Bell on the Common, questions tha `ast `nd the memories they have

:44:27. > :44:28.court cases, totally groundless court cases on criminal charges,

:44:29. > :44:30.courd casds on cpiminal c`arges, those sort of things hover around

:44:31. > :44:30.an` those sort of things hover around

:44:31. > :44:30.and that those sort of things hover around

:44:31. > :44:30.and dhat hs those sort of things hover around

:44:31. > :44:33.and that is a problem for the party. those sort of things hover around

:44:34. > :44:35.Mark Reckless, you know, the one those sort of things hover around

:44:36. > :44:38.with no connections, I think from those sort of things hover around

:44:39. > :44:40.the public point of view he is a lot less of a problem. He is more of a

:44:41. > :44:42.less of a pboblem. He is more nf a problem for party members who feel

:44:43. > :44:43.less of a pboblem. He is more nf a that he has

:44:44. > :44:45.that he h`s been parachtted in. Vaughan, thank you very much for the

:44:46. > :44:48.Vaughan, thank ynu very much for the time being. Earlier at conference

:44:49. > :44:52.also heard from the time being. Earlier at conference

:44:53. > :44:53.Scottishmen David Coburn, he gave Scotdishmdn David Coburn, he g`ve

:44:54. > :44:54.news of the party campaign news of the party campahgn for the

:44:55. > :44:55.elections to the Scottish elacdions to the Scottish

:44:56. > :44:59.parliament. Hello conference, sorry

:45:00. > :45:04.cold, cohd, you wall h`ve to beer with me.

:45:05. > :45:06.I am not nn the cohd, you wall h`ve to beer with me.

:45:07. > :45:09.I am not on the they just, lucky you. OK, let me

:45:10. > :45:09.I am not on the they just, lucky yoq. OK, led me hust

:45:10. > :45:13.I am not on the they just, lucky you. OK, let me just say something.

:45:14. > :45:14.I am not on the they just, lucky We have h`d

:45:15. > :45:14.I am not on the they just, lucky We have had polls in.

:45:15. > :45:14.I am not on the they just, lucky We have h`d polls an. From

:45:15. > :45:14.I am not on the they just, lucky We have had polls in. From Scotland.

:45:15. > :45:20.I am not on the they just, lucky Very exciting. This is the Daily

:45:21. > :45:23.I am not on the they just, lucky Record it reckons that we are going

:45:24. > :45:28.to get 6% in Scotland, which would Record it reckons that we are going

:45:29. > :45:29.translate into seven Record it reckons that we are going

:45:30. > :45:29.tranclate into sdven MSPs in Record it reckons that we are going

:45:30. > :45:32.translate into seven MSPs in the Scottish Pabliament.

:45:33. > :45:42.Scottish Parliament. APPLAUSE. They said we would never

:45:43. > :45:43.APPLAU E. T`ey s`id we vould ndver get an MEP, they said

:45:44. > :45:44.APPLAU E. T`ey s`id we vould ndver gep an MEP, they said we

:45:45. > :45:45.APPLAU E. T`ey s`id we vould ndver get an MEP, they said we would never

:45:46. > :45:51.get an MSP, as a matter-of-fact gep an MSP, as a matter-of-fact one

:45:52. > :45:51.of the leader of the Scottish Parlaament

:45:52. > :45:54.of the leader of the Scottish Parliament said that if David Coburn

:45:55. > :45:55.of the leader of the Scottish wahkc through thd

:45:56. > :45:55.of the leader of the Scottish walks through the doors

:45:56. > :45:56.wahkc through thd doors of the Parliament it

:45:57. > :45:56.wahkc through thd doors of the Paplaament at would be better

:45:57. > :45:57.wahkc through thd doors of the Parliament it would be better off if

:45:58. > :46:00.wahkc through thd doors of the it was closed. That will be an

:46:01. > :46:00.inpebestilg it was closed. That will be an

:46:01. > :46:01.inpebesting meeting it was closed. That will be an

:46:02. > :46:01.interesting meeting when it was closed. That will be an

:46:02. > :46:02.inpebesting meeting when A it was closed. That will be an

:46:03. > :46:02.interesting meeting when I chat with hii,

:46:03. > :46:03.interesting meeting when I chat with him, if hd

:46:04. > :46:07.interesting meeting when I chat with him, if he is still in

:46:08. > :46:07.interesting meeting when I chat with Parliament. Ruth Davidson, the

:46:08. > :46:08.interesting meeting when I chat with Scottish leader said she

:46:09. > :46:09.interesting meeting when I chat with Scotdish leader raad she would

:46:10. > :46:12.interesting meeting when I chat with any worthless piece of

:46:13. > :46:14.interesting meeting when I chat with brought back from Munich. Sorry.

:46:15. > :46:18.interesting meeting when I chat with Strasbourg.

:46:19. > :46:24.APPLAU E. Strasbourg.

:46:25. > :46:25.APPLAUSE. Different Tory Ppime

:46:26. > :46:26.APPLAUSE. Different Tory Prime Minister. Same

:46:27. > :46:35.APPLAUSE. worthless piece of paper.

:46:36. > :46:38.APPLAUSE. APPLAUSE. The Tories in

:46:39. > :46:40.APPLAUSE. have ruled themselves

:46:41. > :46:40.APPLAUSE. hate ruled dhemsdlves out of

:46:41. > :46:41.have ruled themselves out of contentiol,

:46:42. > :46:43.have ruled themselves out of contention, after the backing of the

:46:44. > :46:44.have ruled themselves out of Cameron's nonsense.

:46:45. > :46:45.have ruled themselves out of Camebon's nonsenre. But 70%

:46:46. > :46:46.have ruled themselves out of Cameron's nonsense. But 70% of

:46:47. > :46:48.Camebon's nonsenre. ut 70% of people in the Conservative Party in

:46:49. > :46:51.Camebon's nonsenre. ut 70% of Scotland do not agree with her.

:46:52. > :46:53.Camebon's nonsenre. ut 70% of they, I would assume and

:46:54. > :46:55.Camebon's nonsenre. ut 70% of encourage to vote for Ukip in their

:46:56. > :46:58.first vote, and if not, in their encourage to vote for Ukip in their

:46:59. > :47:01.second vote. And I think that will encourage to vote for Ukip in their

:47:02. > :47:02.help us get well over encourage to vote for Ukip in their

:47:03. > :47:05.hehp us gdt well over the encourage to vote for Ukip in their

:47:06. > :47:06.help us get well over the line to get people into the Scottish

:47:07. > :47:09.gep `eople into the cottash Parliament. Labour, well, it is

:47:10. > :47:11.gep `eople into the cottash still toxic in Scotland, it

:47:12. > :47:14.still toxic in Scotland, at is falling apart. Probably worse than

:47:15. > :47:17.still toxic in Scotland, at is in England if that is

:47:18. > :47:18.still toxic in Scotland, at is but the leadership, they

:47:19. > :47:19.still toxic in Scotland, at is bup dhe leadership, they support

:47:20. > :47:22.but the leadership, they support the EU, but that is not true of

:47:23. > :47:23.but the leadership, they support the EU, but thad is lot true of thd

:47:24. > :47:23.but the leadership, they support the ordinary Labour rupporter

:47:24. > :47:27.but the leadership, they support the ordinary Labour supporter in the

:47:28. > :47:29.street, who fear for their salaries being compressed with competition

:47:30. > :47:31.street, who fear for their salaries from European workers coming

:47:32. > :47:33.street, who fear for their salaries with the open door immigration

:47:34. > :47:35.with the npen door immigration policies, they are worried

:47:36. > :47:36.with the npen door immigration their salaries come pressed. They

:47:37. > :47:39.theib salaraes come pressed. They are worried about rents going up,

:47:40. > :47:40.are gorried about rents going tp, they are worried

:47:41. > :47:41.are gorried about rents going tp, they are wobried about

:47:42. > :47:41.are gorried about rents going tp, they are worried about losing

:47:42. > :47:44.thay are vobried about losing their social housing or not getting it,

:47:45. > :47:45.thay are vobried about losing their an` dhey want

:47:46. > :47:47.thay are vobried about losing their and they want to see an fair crack

:47:48. > :47:50.thay are vobried about losing their of the whip for ordinary people. It

:47:51. > :47:51.is all very well for thd middle classes, for the better off, for

:47:52. > :47:51.soie classes, for the better off, for

:47:52. > :47:53.some of the members of the Scottish soie of the membdrs of the Scottish

:47:54. > :47:58.Parliament dare I say, they will soie of the membdrs of the Scottish

:47:59. > :47:59.cheaper nanny, cheaper Shaw soie of the membdrs of the Scottish

:48:00. > :48:00.chaa`er n`nny, cheaper Rhaw fer, but what about ordinary people?

:48:01. > :48:01.chaa`er n`nny, cheaper Rhaw fer, but what about ordin`rq people? Thdy

:48:02. > :48:01.chaa`er n`nny, cheaper Rhaw fer, but what about ordinary people? They are

:48:02. > :48:01.tha what about ordinary people? They are

:48:02. > :48:01.the ones what about ordinary people? They are

:48:02. > :48:02.tha ones that hate what about ordinary people? They are

:48:03. > :48:05.the ones that have to compete. It is what about ordinary people? They are

:48:06. > :48:07.all right for most of the lawyers who seem to come price the Scottish

:48:08. > :48:08.all right for most of the lawyers Parliament but

:48:09. > :48:08.all right for most of the lawyers Parlaament but the

:48:09. > :48:09.all right for most of the lawyers Parliament but the rest of us will

:48:10. > :48:12.all right for most of the lawyers have a worse time. We want

:48:13. > :48:13.have a wopse timd. We want to rtick up for the ordinary

:48:14. > :48:16.up for thd ordin`rq cott in the street. The ordinary person that

:48:17. > :48:18.stpeet. The ordilary person th`t needs a onand does not want it

:48:19. > :48:21.taking away from them or having needs a onand does not want it

:48:22. > :48:22.their wages needs a onand does not want it

:48:23. > :48:22.thaib wages redubed. needs a onand does not want it

:48:23. > :48:29.their wages reduced. -- needs a onand does not want it

:48:30. > :48:32.APPLAUSE. APPLAU E.

:48:33. > :48:33.The SNP, well they are in an impocsible

:48:34. > :48:34.The SNP, well they are in an impossible position, they are

:48:35. > :48:37.hoisded impossible position, they are

:48:38. > :48:39.hoisted by their own petard. They claim to be nationalists, well, I

:48:40. > :48:42.hoisted by their own petard. They mean how can they? They don't want

:48:43. > :48:44.hoisted by their own petard. They the 200 mile fishing limit brought

:48:45. > :48:46.back from Brussels. That is what you the 200 mile fishing limit brought

:48:47. > :48:46.get the 200 mile fishing limit brought

:48:47. > :48:46.gep af the 200 mile fishing limit brought

:48:47. > :48:49.get if you have Brexit. We could get if you `ave @rexit. We could

:48:50. > :48:54.have 200 mile limit back that get if you `ave @rexit. We could

:48:55. > :48:55.given away by, let's hear it Ted Heat`.

:48:56. > :48:56.given away by, let's hear it Ted Heath. Geoffrey Pipon,

:48:57. > :48:58.given away by, let's hear it Ted Heath. Geoffrey Ripon, who gave

:48:59. > :48:58.given away by, let's hear it Ted Heath. Geoffrey Pipon, who gave away

:48:59. > :49:01.Heath. Geoffrey Ripon, who gave away Scottish fishing grounds, as a prize

:49:02. > :49:02.Heath. Geoffrey Ripon, who gave away for getting into the European

:49:03. > :49:03.Parlaament. for getting into the European

:49:04. > :49:04.Parliament. That was wrong then, it Parlaament. That was wrong then, it

:49:05. > :49:07.is wrong now. We want our fishing is wbong log. We want our fishhng

:49:08. > :49:09.back, it is a major industry for is wbong log. We want our fishhng

:49:10. > :49:13.Scotland. Spanish fishermen are Scotland. S`anish fishermen are plun

:49:14. > :49:15.tersing our territory, puestion have tersing our territory, question have

:49:16. > :49:22.that business? Scot. It is that businecs? Scot. It is Canning

:49:23. > :49:27.factory, fish products, there that businecs? Scot. It is Canning

:49:28. > :49:27.many luxury items of sea food we can prodece

:49:28. > :49:31.many luxury items of sea food we can produce in Scotland, that is

:49:32. > :49:32.many luxury items of sea food we can something I want to see happenhng.

:49:33. > :49:32.many luxury items of sea food we can something I want to see happening. I

:49:33. > :49:33.am... am,..

:49:34. > :49:39.APPLAUSE. APPLAU E.

:49:40. > :49:42.Of course, we will be Of course, ge will be able to lake

:49:43. > :49:47.our own treaty so Of course, ge will be able to lake

:49:48. > :49:49.our own tpeaty sn we Of course, ge will be able to lake

:49:50. > :49:50.our own treaty so we don't have TTIP Of course, ge will be able to lake

:49:51. > :49:55.as envisage Visaged by Europe as envisafe Visafed by Durope

:49:56. > :49:57.damaging the Health Service. The SNP is doing well enough as it is, we

:49:58. > :49:59.is doing vell ennugh as it is, we don't need help from the Americans.

:50:00. > :50:01.is doing vell ennugh as it is, we We also want to see Scottish steel,

:50:02. > :50:04.is doing vell ennugh as it is, we which seems to have been damaged by

:50:05. > :50:08.is doing vell ennugh as it is, we two dhings. The American, the

:50:09. > :50:09.is doing vell ennugh as it is, we Chinese steel dumping,

:50:10. > :50:09.is doing vell ennugh as it is, we Chinese steel dumpang, vhach

:50:10. > :50:09.is doing vell ennugh as it is, we Chinese steel dumping, which has

:50:10. > :50:12.Chinese steel dulpang, vhach h`s not been stopped by the EU

:50:13. > :50:14.Chinese steel dulpang, vhach h`s not we are irnd -- testify

:50:15. > :50:16.Chinese steel dulpang, vhach h`s not Union we do not have to do that, we

:50:17. > :50:21.can set our own tash riffs. But also Union we do not have to do that, we

:50:22. > :50:24.we don't have this ludicrous Union we do not have to do that, we

:50:25. > :50:25.business where our power is so expensive in Scotland because there

:50:26. > :50:28.expensive in cotland bdcause there are so many rules and regulations

:50:29. > :50:34.ara co maly rules and regulations that make our power stations,

:50:35. > :50:36.ara co maly rules and regulations produce power but could

:50:37. > :50:36.ara co maly rules and regulations prodece pnwer but could be producing

:50:37. > :50:39.ara co maly rules and regulations cleaner power. We have expensive

:50:40. > :50:40.ara co maly rules and regulations power which has killed the

:50:41. > :50:42.ara co maly rules and regulations industry. People in Scotland needs

:50:43. > :50:47.in`uctry. People in cotland ndeds jobs. It is very important. I

:50:48. > :50:49.jo`s. t hs very important. I vas going in fishing communities, we

:50:50. > :50:56.jo`s. t hs very important. I vas were round most of Scotland, and the

:50:57. > :50:56.fishermen said that they are more en`angered

:50:57. > :50:58.fishermen said that they are more endangered than the seals that the

:50:59. > :51:02.fishermen said that they are more EU will not allow them to kill. So I

:51:03. > :51:04.want to see jobs for fishermen and I EU will not allow them to kill. So I

:51:05. > :51:08.want to see them have the same want to sde them have the same

:51:09. > :51:16.protection that seals get. APPLAUSE.

:51:17. > :51:16.Tha APPLAUSE.

:51:17. > :51:17.The SNP, as I APPLAUSE.

:51:18. > :51:17.Tha CNP, `s I sahd APPLAUSE.

:51:18. > :51:20.The SNP, as I said before, they The CN , `s I sahd before, they are

:51:21. > :51:23.not a nationalist party, they are an The CN , `s I sahd before, they are

:51:24. > :51:25.international socialist party, a The CN , `s I sahd before, they are

:51:26. > :51:25.European party, The CN , `s I sahd before, they are

:51:26. > :51:26.Eupopean pabty, they The CN , `s I sahd before, they are

:51:27. > :51:26.European party, they are an oppobtunity

:51:27. > :51:27.European party, they are an opportunity for Durope.

:51:28. > :51:29.European party, they are an opportunity for Europe. Two of the

:51:30. > :51:31.oppobtunity for Durope. Two of the members, former members are more

:51:32. > :51:32.honoerable. members, former members are more

:51:33. > :51:34.honourable. Leading lights of the members, former members are more

:51:35. > :51:36.SNP. They are for out. They are for SNP. They abe fop out. They are for

:51:37. > :51:39.Brexit. And the reason for that is Braxat. Ald the peason for that is

:51:40. > :51:42.because they believe that that is a Braxat. Ald the peason for that is

:51:43. > :51:43.more on honourable position to Braxat. Ald the peason for that is

:51:44. > :51:46.more on hnnourable position to hold. more on honourable position to hold.

:51:47. > :51:46.You cannot, you know, be wanting Scottish

:51:47. > :51:48.You cannot, you know, be wanting Scotdish hndependence

:51:49. > :51:48.You cannot, you know, be wanting Scottish independence on the

:51:49. > :51:50.Scotdish hndependence on the one hand, we banged on about

:51:51. > :51:50.Scotdish hndependence on the one hand, we `anged nn about forevdr,

:51:51. > :51:50.Scotdish hndependence on the one hand, we banged on about forever, we

:51:51. > :51:51.can'd hand, we banged on about forever, we

:51:52. > :51:53.can't have that and at the same time can'd havd dhat `nd at the samd time

:51:54. > :51:54.be ruled by Brussels, there is no can'd havd dhat `nd at the samd time

:51:55. > :52:03.logic to it. The only reason for that...

:52:04. > :52:07.Is that dear darling Nicola, she is that...

:52:08. > :52:09.such a fashion icon, she is so that...

:52:10. > :52:10.beautifully dressed all the that...

:52:11. > :52:10.beaudifully dressed all the time that...

:52:11. > :52:11.beautifully dressed all the time and that...

:52:12. > :52:12.Alex Salmond our former glorious that...

:52:13. > :52:13.First Minister that...

:52:14. > :52:14.Fipsd Minisder who seemr to that...

:52:15. > :52:16.First Minister who seems to be doing Firsd inhsder who seemr to be doing

:52:17. > :52:17.a lot of programmes in England, he has become a bit of a star.

:52:18. > :52:18.a lot of programmes in England, he has becomd a bit of a star. He

:52:19. > :52:20.a lot of programmes in England, he wanted to be an international star.

:52:21. > :52:22.walted to be an hnternational rtar. They want to hang round

:52:23. > :52:23.walted to be an hnternational rtar. President Hollande and Chancellor

:52:24. > :52:27.Merkel. They want to march President Hollande and Chancellor

:52:28. > :52:31.Europe and show how important they Eupo`e and chow how impnrtant they

:52:32. > :52:34.are. The ordinary SNP member has a different view. They

:52:35. > :52:36.didferent view. They don't understand, how can we

:52:37. > :52:37.didferent view. They don't independent an be ruled by

:52:38. > :52:38.didferent view. They don't independelt an be ruled by Brursels?

:52:39. > :52:40.didferent view. They don't A lot of them will be voting for

:52:41. > :52:42.Ukip, or giving their second vote A lot of them will be voting for

:52:43. > :52:55.Ukip and they will be voting for Brexit.

:52:56. > :52:58.APPLAUSE. A Guardian poll came out

:52:59. > :52:58.APPLAUSE. A Guardian `oll bame out and

:52:59. > :52:59.APPLAUSE. A Guardian poll came out and said

:53:00. > :53:01.APPLAUSE. that 60% of Scots were

:53:02. > :53:02.APPLAUSE. that 60% nf Scots were Durosceptic,

:53:03. > :53:02.and all this that 60% nf Scots were Durosceptic,

:53:03. > :53:04.an` all thic nonsense that 60% nf Scots were Durosceptic,

:53:05. > :53:06.nos being Eurosceptics is that, pure that 60% nf Scots were Durosceptic,

:53:07. > :53:08.bunkum, because when I knock on that 60% nf Scots were Durosceptic,

:53:09. > :53:11.doors people look and that I say, I that 60% nf Scots were Durosceptic,

:53:12. > :53:12.am voting for you, I am voting that 60% nf Scots were Durosceptic,

:53:13. > :53:14.Brecon Beacons, but don't that 60% nf Scots were Durosceptic,

:53:15. > :53:16.Bracon Beacons, `ut don tell Brecon Beacons, but don't tell

:53:17. > :53:19.anybody. There is a palpable fear in

:53:20. > :53:21.anybody. of the SNP, that

:53:22. > :53:21.anybody. of t`e SNP, that you can

:53:22. > :53:21.anybody. of the SNP, that you can lose

:53:22. > :53:24.anybody. job, or you can find you don't get

:53:25. > :53:27.jo`, or ynu can dind you don't get that promotion, if you work

:53:28. > :53:30.jo`, or ynu can dind you don't get Health Service, work for the police,

:53:31. > :53:33.work in the Civil Service. Whether it be true or not is another matter,

:53:34. > :53:34.bup it be true or not is another matter,

:53:35. > :53:35.but that is is the perception, but dhat is is the perception,

:53:36. > :53:37.people are scared. And but dhat is is the perception,

:53:38. > :53:38.people are ccared. And in priv`te but dhat is is the perception,

:53:39. > :53:40.enterprise they entebprisd dhey `re scared because

:53:41. > :53:42.look what happened to bar head entebprisd dhey `re scared because

:53:43. > :53:46.travel they were mobbed by the cyber entebprisd dhey `re scared because

:53:47. > :53:47.naughts and it nearly destroyed thaib

:53:48. > :53:48.naughts and it nearly destroyed their business. Now, if there is

:53:49. > :53:51.that peer in Scotland, no wonder their business. Now, if there is

:53:52. > :53:55.pollsters are getting very very odd their business. Now, if there is

:53:56. > :53:57.views on the doorstep, very few people are going to say I am on your

:53:58. > :53:59.side because they will lose thdir side because they will lose their

:54:00. > :53:59.jobs or they side because they will lose their

:54:00. > :54:00.jo`s or theq will side because they will lose their

:54:01. > :54:00.jobs or they will have a very side because they will lose their

:54:01. > :54:01.jo`s or theq will `ave ` very bad side because they will lose their

:54:02. > :54:03.time in the job, they won't get that time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:04. > :54:07.promotion. Don't believe what they time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:08. > :54:08.say in the polls, things are not time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:09. > :54:13.quite as they seem. time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:14. > :54:13.Well, I time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:14. > :54:14.Wehl, wand time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:15. > :54:17.Well, I want to see a Ukip body in time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:18. > :54:18.the Scottish Parliament. We don't time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:19. > :54:22.fear it, we embrace it. We want time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:23. > :54:25.put Ukipers in the Parliament. We time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:26. > :54:26.believe a Parliament, Scottish time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:27. > :54:27.Parliament responsible for raising time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:28. > :54:28.tha money time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:29. > :54:30.the money it spends, will be a lot time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:31. > :54:33.more responsible how they spend time in the job, t`ey won't get that

:54:34. > :54:42.if they have had to raise it. I think it's high time they did.

:54:43. > :54:44.APPLAU E. However we don't believe Scottish

:54:45. > :54:46.taxec However we don't believe Scottish

:54:47. > :54:49.taxes should be higher than in England. That will lead

:54:50. > :54:51.taxes should be higher than in flight. And anybody who doesn't

:54:52. > :54:52.taxes should be higher than in believe that, does not understand

:54:53. > :54:56.believe thad, does not tnderstand the modern world. So, a penny here,

:54:57. > :54:59.tha moderl gorld, So, a penny here, a penny there, that is OK. People

:55:00. > :55:00.don't mind that, if that is what Scotc

:55:01. > :55:02.don't mind that, if that is what Scots want, that is fine.

:55:03. > :55:02.Consadera`le Scots want, that is fine.

:55:03. > :55:04.Considerable difference in the taxes Colsadera`le difderence in the taxes

:55:05. > :55:06.between Scotland and between Scodland and Enfland, there

:55:07. > :55:07.are lots of clever between Scodland and Enfland, there

:55:08. > :55:10.are lots of clevdr accountants between Scodland and Enfland, there

:55:11. > :55:10.people who are simply not going to sip

:55:11. > :55:12.people who are simply not going to sit there and be plucked like

:55:13. > :55:12.chiccens, sit there and be plucked like

:55:13. > :55:13.chickens, they will sit there and be plucked like

:55:14. > :55:13.chiccens, they will movd sit there and be plucked like

:55:14. > :55:16.chickens, they will move their tax chiccens, t`ey will movd their tax

:55:17. > :55:17.domiciles chiccens, t`ey will movd their tax

:55:18. > :55:17.doiiciles south of chiccens, t`ey will movd their tax

:55:18. > :55:19.domiciles south of the chiccens, t`ey will movd their tax

:55:20. > :55:22.mainged sure their, the Scottish tax mainged stre their, the Scottish tax

:55:23. > :55:26.raising will diminish as a result of mainged stre their, the Scottish tax

:55:27. > :55:26.that, and if the Scots Nates don't get

:55:27. > :55:28.that, and if the Scots Nates don't gep dhat they hate

:55:29. > :55:29.that, and if the Scots Nates don't get that they have no business

:55:30. > :55:37.that, and if the Scots Nates don't running the Scottish any.

:55:38. > :55:40.that, and if the Scots Nates don't Ukipers want a Scottish

:55:41. > :55:42.that, and if the Scots Nates don't making sensible decisions, logical

:55:43. > :55:46.making selsible decisions, loghcal decisions, and be responsible for

:55:47. > :55:47.decicions, and bd responsable for the decisions they make, financially

:55:48. > :55:49.tha decishons thdy make, finanbially responsible. If the Scots Parliament

:55:50. > :55:51.tha decishons thdy make, finanbially does not make the correct decision

:55:52. > :55:54.tha decishons thdy make, finanbially it must in some ways

:55:55. > :55:57.tha decishons thdy make, finanbially responsibility for that and that

:55:58. > :56:00.tha decishons thdy make, finanbially will be shown up in how much pain is

:56:01. > :56:02.inflicted on the Scottish voter, will be shown up in how much pain is

:56:03. > :56:02.indlacted on the Scottish voter, and inflicted on the Scottish voter, and

:56:03. > :56:03.tha inflicted on the Scottish voter, and

:56:04. > :56:04.the Scottish voter will in turn see tha Ccottis` voter will in turn see

:56:05. > :56:10.that it is tha Ccottis` voter will in turn see

:56:11. > :56:12.Westminster, no, no, it is what wicket Holyrood. A the

:56:13. > :56:15.wicket Holybood. A the loment the farmers aren't getting their money

:56:16. > :56:16.back, there is big delays over that back, thepe is bhg delaxs over that

:56:17. > :56:18.and that is thanks to the Scottish back, thepe is bhg delaxs over that

:56:19. > :56:20.Government. I want to see the Govebnment. I walt to sde the

:56:21. > :56:24.farmers in Scotland get the Govebnment. I walt to sde the

:56:25. > :56:25.directly from, from Britain. I don't directly drom, fpom ritaan. I don't

:56:26. > :56:27.want to see it go directly drom, fpom ritaan. I don't

:56:28. > :56:27.want to sde it gn via directly drom, fpom ritaan. I don't

:56:28. > :56:28.want to see it go via Brussels where directly drom, fpom ritaan. I don't

:56:29. > :56:31.a chunk directly drom, fpom ritaan. I don't

:56:32. > :56:34.Germany and France are the only Germany ald Franbe are the only

:56:35. > :56:37.serious contributors to the European Germany ald Franbe are the only

:56:38. > :56:37.budget so why don't we cut out the mi`dle

:56:38. > :56:39.budget so why don't we cut out the middle man.

:56:40. > :56:40.budget so why don't we cut out the mi`dle mal. Let

:56:41. > :56:42.budget so why don't we cut out the middle man. Let us take the British

:56:43. > :56:43.budget so why don't we cut out the taxpayers' money and they it -- pay

:56:44. > :56:46.it directly to the farmers and cut taxpayers' money and they it -- pay

:56:47. > :56:55.out the middle man. APPLAU E.

:56:56. > :56:58.We want the same system as we have right now, we want single

:56:59. > :57:01.We want the same system as we have payment, just as it is. In time

:57:02. > :57:03.payment, huct as it is. In timd as we get Brexit, obviously

:57:04. > :57:04.payment, huct as it is. In timd as Scottish Parliament and the

:57:05. > :57:05.payment, huct as it is. In timd as Westminster Parliament listen

:57:06. > :57:08.payment, huct as it is. In timd as you know, follow what

:57:09. > :57:09.you know, follow w`at the public want,

:57:10. > :57:09.you know, follow w`at the public walt, and

:57:10. > :57:10.you know, follow w`at the public want, and make British rules for

:57:11. > :57:13.you know, follow w`at the public farmers and that is a good thing.

:57:14. > :57:13.fapmers ald that is a gnod thing. Let

:57:14. > :57:14.fapmers ald that is a gnod thing. Lep es have decision making in

:57:15. > :57:14.Let us have decision making in Hohybood.

:57:15. > :57:16.Let us have decision making in Holyrood. Let us have it in

:57:17. > :57:22.Hohybood. Let us have it an Westminster.

:57:23. > :57:22.APPLAUSE. Whan

:57:23. > :57:25.APPLAUSE. When you see the floods that have

:57:26. > :57:25.APPLAUSE. devastated Scotland,

:57:26. > :57:25.APPLAUSE. detactated Ccotland, especially

:57:26. > :57:27.APPLAUSE. devastated Scotland, especially if

:57:28. > :57:27.APPLAUSE. the border,

:57:28. > :57:27.APPLAUSE. the bordep, a lot

:57:28. > :57:28.APPLAUSE. the border, a lot has been caused by

:57:29. > :57:34.APPLAUSE. not dredging the rivers.

:57:35. > :57:34.-- in the borders. That ladies and gentlemen

:57:35. > :57:34.-- in the borders. That ladies and geltlemen ic

:57:35. > :57:36.-- in the borders. That ladies and gentlemen is down to the EU rules

:57:37. > :57:38.gentlemen ic dowl to thd EU rules about dredging rivers. There is

:57:39. > :57:42.gentlemen ic dowl to thd EU rules point in somebody over in buzzles

:57:43. > :57:44.gentlemen ic dowl to thd EU rules making decisions is about --

:57:45. > :57:46.gentlemen ic dowl to thd EU rules Brussels about dredging rivers

:57:47. > :57:46.gentlemen ic dowl to thd EU rules Sardinia

:57:47. > :57:47.gentlemen ic dowl to thd EU rules Sapdania and translatinf

:57:48. > :57:48.gentlemen ic dowl to thd EU rules Sardinia and translating that

:57:49. > :57:50.gentlemen ic dowl to thd EU rules Scotland where we have an over-Andre

:57:51. > :57:52.gentlemen ic dowl to thd EU rules Ayew bun dance of water. It makes no

:57:53. > :57:52.sense Ayew bun dance of water. It makes no

:57:53. > :57:56.selse at Ayew bun dance of water. It makes no

:57:57. > :57:57.APPLAUSE APPLAUSE. Tha

:57:58. > :57:57.APPLAUSE APPLAUSE. The SNP say they

:57:58. > :57:58.APPLAUSE APPLAUSE. Tha CNP say they will

:57:59. > :58:00.APPLAUSE APPLAUSE. The SNP say they will need more

:58:01. > :58:05.migration to fill the Health Service and all the rest of it. They always

:58:06. > :58:05.say this. I say we should be edqcating

:58:06. > :58:07.say this. I say we should be educating more doctors and nurses in

:58:08. > :58:10.say this. I say we should be Scotland, not stealing them from

:58:11. > :58:11.Third World countries who can ilh-afford

:58:12. > :58:17.Third World countries who can ill-afford it.

:58:18. > :58:22.APPLAU E. That, ladies and gentlemen,

:58:23. > :58:24.APPLAU E. immoral. If we wants the

:58:25. > :58:27.APPLAU E. in Scotland, that is what I want to

:58:28. > :58:30.APPLAU E. see, many of my generation left

:58:31. > :58:33.APPLAU E. Scotland, we are sick and tired

:58:34. > :58:35.APPLAU E. the a Scottash Nationalist or

:58:36. > :58:36.APPLAU E. socialist state who say you make

:58:37. > :58:38.money it is wrong, evil so they got socialist state who say you make

:58:39. > :58:41.up and went. As Scots have always socialist state who say you make

:58:42. > :58:42.dole to socialist state who say you make

:58:43. > :58:43.done to other parts. Well, if socialist state who say you make

:58:44. > :58:46.want to have a socialist state who say you make

:58:47. > :58:46.want to h`ve a ynunger Rcottish want to have a younger Scottish

:58:47. > :58:47.populatiol, want to have a younger Scottish

:58:48. > :58:48.population, they don't need to want to have a younger Scottish

:58:49. > :58:48.impobt it fbom want to have a younger Scottish

:58:49. > :58:48.import it from the Europe want to have a younger Scottish

:58:49. > :58:49.impobt it fbom the Europe or want to have a younger Scottish

:58:50. > :58:52.rest of the world. What they need to want to have a younger Scottish

:58:53. > :58:54.do is produce policies that at want to have a younger Scottish

:58:55. > :58:55.stpact -- want to have a younger Scottish

:58:56. > :58:57.stract -- attract Scots to stay in want to have a younger Scottish

:58:58. > :58:57.thaib own want to have a younger Scottish

:58:58. > :59:00.their own di. That is what Ukip will thaib own da. Th`t is what Ukip will

:59:01. > :59:03.be doing if we get into the Scottish Parlaament.

:59:04. > :59:04.be doing if we get into the Scottish Parliament. We will encourage Scots

:59:05. > :59:06.Parlaament. We will encourage Rcots to stay at home, employ

:59:07. > :59:07.Parlaament. We will encourage Rcots to sday at `ome, employ fellow Scot,

:59:08. > :59:10.Parlaament. We will encourage Rcots you can only do that where

:59:11. > :59:13.Parlaament. We will encourage Rcots policy, Ukip policy, business

:59:14. > :59:15.Parlaament. We will encourage Rcots friendly policy, policies

:59:16. > :59:17.Parlaament. We will encourage Rcots to create jobs, that is what Ukip is

:59:18. > :59:19.Parlaament. We will encourage Rcots going to do so everyone in Scotland,

:59:20. > :59:19.what`er going to do so everyone in Scotland,

:59:20. > :59:21.whether you be the highest or going to do so everyone in Scotland,

:59:22. > :59:26.lowest. Vote for Ukip. Get a square deal.

:59:27. > :59:28.That is the view from Scotland. Let us brick matters back

:59:29. > :59:28.That is the view from Scotland. Let us bbick ladters back closer

:59:29. > :59:32.That is the view from Scotland. Let us brick matters back closer to home

:59:33. > :59:34.now, and we can go back to the Conference venue in Llandudno where

:59:35. > :59:43.We had Nigel Farage on the the leader Nathan

:59:44. > :59:47.We had Nigel Farage on the earlier and I asked him whether Ukip

:59:48. > :59:48.woqld be earlier and I asked him whether Ukip

:59:49. > :59:48.would be prioritising the referendum woqld be praoritisang the referendum

:59:49. > :59:51.or the Assembly elections. woqld be praoritisang the referendum

:59:52. > :59:53.your view on that question? It's woqld be praoritisang the referendum

:59:54. > :59:55.yoqr view on that question? It's a woqld be praoritisang the referendum

:59:56. > :59:58.good question. Actually, we can do both. We can fight both at the same

:59:59. > :00:00.both. e ban fight both at the same time. Everything we do with

:00:01. > :00:01.both. e ban fight both at the same to the referendum will get

:00:02. > :00:02.both. e ban fight both at the same to the referendul will get the

:00:03. > :00:03.both. e ban fight both at the same to the referendum will get the Ukip

:00:04. > :00:04.both. e ban fight both at the same name out there and will let people

:00:05. > :00:06.name out there ald will let people know that we are out and about, we

:00:07. > :00:09.name out there ald will let people have candidates and strong

:00:10. > :00:09.name out there ald will let people So, we

:00:10. > :00:10.name out there ald will let people So, ge cal actuallq,

:00:11. > :00:10.name out there ald will let people So, we can actually, I believe,

:00:11. > :00:10.strongly So, we can actually, I believe,

:00:11. > :00:12.stpongly ve So, we can actually, I believe,

:00:13. > :00:13.strongly we can fight the referendum an`

:00:14. > :00:14.strongly we can fight the referendum and the Welsh Assembly at the same

:00:15. > :00:17.time. The leader of the and the Welsh Assembly at the same

:00:18. > :00:19.Conservatives, who is on your and the Welsh Assembly at the same

:00:20. > :00:19.Colservatives, who is on qour ride and the Welsh Assembly at the same

:00:20. > :00:22.of the argument as far as the and the Welsh Assembly at the same

:00:23. > :00:24.European question is concerned, has and the Welsh Assembly at the same

:00:25. > :00:24.made a and the Welsh Assembly at the same

:00:25. > :00:26.ma`e a decicion and the Welsh Assembly at the same

:00:27. > :00:27.made a decision not to campaign on tha

:00:28. > :00:28.made a decision not to campaign on the European question until after

:00:29. > :00:28.tha the European question until after

:00:29. > :00:30.the Assembly election. You could the European question until after

:00:31. > :00:33.take the same stance and elevate take the rame stance and elevate the

:00:34. > :00:37.Assembly elections to Assembly dlectiols to the status

:00:38. > :00:37.that other Assembly dlectiols to the status

:00:38. > :00:38.that othep `arties thinj that other parties think it

:00:39. > :00:41.desebves. that other parties think it

:00:42. > :00:47.deserves. Well, don't forget everything we do will be a mixed

:00:48. > :00:51.bag. So, it will be a case of when we are doing a big road show or we

:00:52. > :00:52.bag. So, it will be a case of when have street stalls and stands people

:00:53. > :00:54.bag. So, it will be a case of when will naturally want to talk to us

:00:55. > :00:54.bag. So, it will be a case of when about the EU,

:00:55. > :00:55.bag. So, it will be a case of when aboud the EE, but

:00:56. > :00:55.bag. So, it will be a case of when about the EU, but at

:00:56. > :00:55.bag. So, it will be a case of when aboud the EE, but at thd

:00:56. > :00:55.bag. So, it will be a case of when about the EU, but at the same time,

:00:56. > :00:57.they'll want to talk to us about the thay'll wand to talk to us about the

:00:58. > :00:59.state of the education system, the thay'll wand to talk to us about the

:01:00. > :01:01.state of the NHS. So, I thay'll wand to talk to us about the

:01:02. > :01:03.why there is a problem why dhere ic a ppoblem vith

:01:04. > :01:06.missioning the two together. With missioninf dhe two together. Whth

:01:07. > :01:11.this, given the Welsh Assembly the missioninf dhe two together. Whth

:01:12. > :01:14.stance that it deserves, well, quite francly,

:01:15. > :01:16.stance that it deserves, well, quite frankly, we have had 15, 16 years of

:01:17. > :01:17.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of Labour and Tory ping-pong ball here

:01:18. > :01:20.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of in Wales. People know that it

:01:21. > :01:23.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of and that the elections are going

:01:24. > :01:23.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of What we have seen

:01:24. > :01:24.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of What we h`ve seen in

:01:25. > :01:24.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of What we have seen in election after

:01:25. > :01:25.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of election is a

:01:26. > :01:27.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of elacdion is a decline

:01:28. > :01:28.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of election is a decline in the amount

:01:29. > :01:33.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of of people who want to vote in this

:01:34. > :01:34.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of election. Hopefully with the added

:01:35. > :01:37.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of excitement of a European referendum

:01:38. > :01:39.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of on the horizon at the same time

:01:40. > :01:40.francly, ve have had 15, 16 years of people will get more invigorated and

:01:41. > :01:42.more - like what happened people will get more invigorated and

:01:43. > :01:43.Scotland and we `re hoping we ban Scotland and we are hoping we can

:01:44. > :01:44.gep Scotland and we are hoping we can

:01:45. > :01:45.get the turnout up in this and in Scotland and we are hoping we can

:01:46. > :01:50.the referendum election. Do you tha beferendum election. Do you want

:01:51. > :01:54.to concentrate ol Europd becaure you don't have any policies for the

:01:55. > :01:56.to concentrate ol Europd becaure you devolved administrations? Of

:01:57. > :01:59.to concentrate ol Europd becaure you we have policies. All along during

:02:00. > :01:59.the we have policies. All along during

:02:00. > :01:59.tha general election we have policies. All along during

:02:00. > :02:00.the general election I remember we have policies. All along during

:02:01. > :02:01.being told dime we have policies. All along during

:02:02. > :02:02.being told time after time that we di`n't

:02:03. > :02:04.being told time after time that we didn't have policies. When we

:02:05. > :02:08.finally released our policies, which was about the same time as the other

:02:09. > :02:09.was about t`e sale time as the other parties released theirs, we had a

:02:10. > :02:11.parties released t`eirs, we had a huge full manifesto that was

:02:12. > :02:14.completely costed. We were the only coipletely costed. We were the only

:02:15. > :02:15.party that could say that. Everything in our manifesto was

:02:16. > :02:17.party that could say that. fully costed. None was pie in the

:02:18. > :02:19.sky. The same fully costed. None was pie in the

:02:20. > :02:20.sky. The rame with fully costed. None was pie in the

:02:21. > :02:21.sky. The same with this, the Welsh Assembly electiols, we have

:02:22. > :02:23.sky. The same with this, the Welsh Assembly elections, we have a

:02:24. > :02:23.manifesto. I have seen it, it's fantastic,

:02:24. > :02:24.manifesto. I have seen it, it's fantastic. We can't

:02:25. > :02:24.manifesto. I have seen it, it's fantastic. Ge cal't wait to share

:02:25. > :02:26.manifesto. I have seen it, it's it. When the time is right we will

:02:27. > :02:27.it, Ghen the timd as right we vill share it with the media and the

:02:28. > :02:29.it, Ghen the timd as right we vill public. You have a manifesto but you

:02:30. > :02:30.publac. You have a manifesto btt you don't have

:02:31. > :02:30.publac. You have a manifesto btt you don'd have any

:02:31. > :02:31.publac. You have a manifesto btt you don't have any candidates for the

:02:32. > :02:34.publac. You have a manifesto btt you regional list as yet. There are

:02:35. > :02:35.publac. You have a manifesto btt you people within the

:02:36. > :02:36.publac. You have a manifesto btt you people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:37. > :02:37.even want you to remain as leader. people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:38. > :02:42.It's been a bit of a mess, people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:43. > :02:44.it? Well, there's very few people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:45. > :02:45.who don't want me to remaan people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:46. > :02:45.who don't want me to remain as people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:46. > :02:46.leader, we gill dind people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:47. > :02:47.leader, we will find out what people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:48. > :02:48.happens with the regional people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:49. > :02:48.happens wit` the region`l vote. people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:49. > :02:49.happens with the regional vote. It's people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:50. > :02:49.a iecs, I will people withan thd party w`o don't

:02:50. > :02:53.a mess, I will be honest about it, I a mecs, I wall bd `onest about it, I

:02:54. > :02:55.wanted our candidates, three, four, five months ago to get on with this.

:02:56. > :02:59.wanted our candidates, three, four, But we are where we are on. On

:03:00. > :03:00.wanted our candidates, three, four, March we will know exactly

:03:01. > :03:04.March we will knnw exactlq who our candidates are, we will get on with

:03:05. > :03:04.this campaign. We will spring into it. You watch

:03:05. > :03:05.this campaign. We will spring into it, Qou watch us,

:03:06. > :03:06.this campaign. We will spring into it. You watch us, we have

:03:07. > :03:08.this campaign. We will spring into prepared. We are ready for it. We

:03:09. > :03:10.this campaign. We will spring into will get on with this. You don't

:03:11. > :03:12.really hear much about what's going will get on with this. You don't

:03:13. > :03:17.on with the other parties. It makes will get on with this. You don't

:03:18. > :03:18.no difference. The other parties in the Assembly are

:03:19. > :03:18.no difference. The other parties in tha Assem`lq are not

:03:19. > :03:19.no difference. The other parties in the Assembly are not being run by

:03:20. > :03:21.no difference. The other parties in the parties in London

:03:22. > :03:22.no difference. The other parties in the `arties in Lnndon when it

:03:23. > :03:23.tha `arties in Lnndon when it bomes to selecting candidates but

:03:24. > :03:25.tha `arties in Lnndon when it bomes party is because Nigel Farage on the

:03:26. > :03:25.tha `arties in Lnndon when it bomes programme earlier

:03:26. > :03:25.tha `arties in Lnndon when it bomes programme earliep said

:03:26. > :03:26.tha `arties in Lnndon when it bomes programme earlier said that he had

:03:27. > :03:29.progbamme earliep said that he had taken control of this process. Was

:03:30. > :03:31.taken control of t`is process. Was he wrong in doing so? Not at

:03:32. > :03:33.taken control of t`is process. Was What he did was he said let's get it

:03:34. > :03:35.What he dhd was he said let's fet it to the members, let the membership

:03:36. > :03:37.to t`e members, let the membership of Wales decide. T`at's

:03:38. > :03:40.to t`e members, let the membership of Wales decide. That's what we have

:03:41. > :03:43.done. It's grass roots. What more can we say? If members decide these

:03:44. > :03:44.done. It's grass roots. What more people should be the candidates,

:03:45. > :03:47.done. It's grass roots. What more there we are. There we have it.

:03:48. > :03:48.there we `re. Thdre we have it. The members have decided in Wales and

:03:49. > :03:50.members h`ve decided in Wales `nd we will move on with that. If you are

:03:51. > :03:50.nop will move on with that. If you are

:03:51. > :03:53.not selected as one of the will move on with that. If you are

:03:54. > :03:54.candidates for the regional list caldadates for the regional list

:03:55. > :04:01.would you then stand down as the woqld you t`en stand down as the

:04:02. > :04:01.Ukip leader in Wales if other Ukip meibers

:04:02. > :04:02.Ukip leader in Wales if other Ukip members were elected to the

:04:03. > :04:06.Ukip leader in Wales if other Ukip Assembly? If I am not selected, I

:04:07. > :04:06.will have a very long discussion wiph

:04:07. > :04:09.will have a very long discussion with Nigel Farage and we will decide

:04:10. > :04:14.what's best for the party here in Wales and campaigns. Don't forget,

:04:15. > :04:16.as I mentioned, we have two campaigns running simultaneously. On

:04:17. > :04:17.as I mentioned, we have two the Europdan

:04:18. > :04:17.as I mentioned, we have two the European referendum question,

:04:18. > :04:17.as I mentioned, we have two the Europdan referendum question, A

:04:18. > :04:20.the European referendum question, a lot of this is

:04:21. > :04:23.the European referendum question, a are framed. In your speech today you

:04:24. > :04:25.the European referendum question, a made reference to people travelling

:04:26. > :04:28.the European referendum question, a the continent with

:04:29. > :04:31.the contilent with Kalarhnikovr. Does that kind of statement

:04:32. > :04:33.Doas that kand od statement represent project fear or project

:04:34. > :04:35.Doas that kand od statement optimism? I think it represents

:04:36. > :04:35.Doas that kand od statement project of dhe

:04:36. > :04:37.Doas that kand od statement project of the reality. It is the

:04:38. > :04:40.Doas that kand od statement reality, it's what's happened.

:04:41. > :04:42.Doas that kand od statement you have no border checks throughout

:04:43. > :04:43.Doas that kand od statement the whole of the European continent

:04:44. > :04:46.Doas that kand od statement then what I said was true, you can

:04:47. > :04:47.Doas that kand od statement put whatever you want in the boot

:04:48. > :04:49.Doas that kand od statement your car and drive across the

:04:50. > :04:50.your car `nd drite across the continent and do

:04:51. > :04:52.your car `nd drite across the coltanent and do w`atever

:04:53. > :04:53.coltanent and do w`atevdr you vant, that's the problem. When people do

:04:54. > :04:54.coie that's the problem. When people do

:04:55. > :04:55.come to Britain there that's the problem. When people do

:04:56. > :04:55.coie to Bpitain there are that's the problem. When people do

:04:56. > :04:58.come to Britain there are checks, aren't there? Well, I go across the

:04:59. > :04:59.come to Britain there are checks, channel quite a lot and I

:05:00. > :04:59.come to Britain there are checks, channel quide a lot and I have

:05:00. > :05:00.come to Britain there are checks, channel quite a lot and I have only

:05:01. > :05:02.come to Britain there are checks, had my boot checked three times.

:05:03. > :05:04.come to Britain there are checks, Yeah, there are checks but I would

:05:05. > :05:05.come to Britain there are checks, like to see more stringent checks. I

:05:06. > :05:08.come to Britain there are checks, would like to see a strengthening of

:05:09. > :05:08.our borders would like to see a strengthening of

:05:09. > :05:09.oup bordeps forces, I would like to see a strengthening of

:05:10. > :05:10.our borders forces, I would like to our bordeps forces, would like to

:05:11. > :05:13.- we don't want fortress Britain, our bordeps forces, would like to

:05:14. > :05:14.that's not what we are asking for. We want people

:05:15. > :05:14.that's not what we are asking for. We want pdople to

:05:15. > :05:16.that's not what we are asking for. We want people to know when a

:05:17. > :05:18.that's not what we are asking for. or a core comes into Britain it's

:05:19. > :05:19.that's not what we are asking for. been checked -- or a

:05:20. > :05:21.that's not what we are asking for. bean checked -- or a car.

:05:22. > :05:22.that's not what we are asking for. dole somethang to make

:05:23. > :05:23.that's not what we are asking for. done something to make sure it

:05:24. > :05:26.done somethang to make rure it hasn't drugs or I will

:05:27. > :05:28.hasn't drugc or H will lie immigrants or firearms or whatever

:05:29. > :05:30.imiigrants or fipearms nr whatever -- - illegal immigrants or fire

:05:31. > :05:33.-- - illegal immhgrants or fire arms or w`atever. This as a

:05:34. > :05:35.-- - illegal immhgrants or fire arms to see Scottish farmers get many

:05:36. > :05:37.-- - illegal immhgrants or fire arms directly from the -- get money from,

:05:38. > :05:37.cup directly from the -- get money from,

:05:38. > :05:41.cut out the middleman. I am sure you directly from the -- get money from,

:05:42. > :05:42.would say the same for Welsh farmers. The

:05:43. > :05:42.would say the same for Welsh fapmers. The pro`lem

:05:43. > :05:43.would say the same for Welsh farmers. The problem with that is

:05:44. > :05:44.would say the same for Welsh there no guarantee that

:05:45. > :05:44.would say the same for Welsh thare no fuarantee that t`e

:05:45. > :05:44.would say the same for Welsh there no guarantee that the UK

:05:45. > :05:47.Govebnment there no guarantee that the UK

:05:48. > :05:49.Government would pass the money on. So it's better the

:05:50. > :05:54.Government would pass the money on. know than the devil you don't. I

:05:55. > :05:57.hear this all thd time. It's the most bizarre argument I ever hear.

:05:58. > :05:58.hear this all thd time. It's the Ara ge trut`fully

:05:59. > :06:00.hear this all thd time. It's the Are we truthfully saying when we

:06:01. > :06:03.hear this all thd time. It's the save ?55 million every single

:06:04. > :06:05.hear this all thd time. It's the that our farmers in Wales, that our

:06:06. > :06:06.that our dabmers in ales, that our low earning areas of

:06:07. > :06:06.that our dabmers in ales, that our low earning arear of Wales

:06:07. > :06:07.that our dabmers in ales, that our low earning areas of Wales are going

:06:08. > :06:10.that our dabmers in ales, that our to be worse off because the evil

:06:11. > :06:11.to be worse off `ecause t`e evhl Government in Westminster will not

:06:12. > :06:13.to be worse off `ecause t`e evhl continue to support us? Of course

:06:14. > :06:17.to be worse off `ecause t`e evhl that's not going to happen. If by

:06:18. > :06:17.to be worse off `ecause t`e evhl any chance

:06:18. > :06:19.to be worse off `ecause t`e evhl Government didn't do it, vote for

:06:20. > :06:20.to be worse off `ecause t`e evhl different Government. That's the

:06:21. > :06:21.to be worse off `ecause t`e evhl beaudy of

:06:22. > :06:22.to be worse off `ecause t`e evhl beauty of this. What we are saying

:06:23. > :06:25.beaudy of t`is. Vhat we are saxing is we can actually vote t`ese

:06:26. > :06:25.beaudy of t`is. Vhat we are saxing is we can actually vote these people

:06:26. > :06:27.beaudy of t`is. Vhat we are saxing out. Whereas the European - the EU

:06:28. > :06:30.oup. Whereac the European - thd EU we can't get rid of them. If they

:06:31. > :06:31.oup. Whereac the European - thd EU change their minds, if they decide

:06:32. > :06:32.to sdop subsidies what ban we change their minds, if they decide

:06:33. > :06:33.to stop subsidies what can we do aboud

:06:34. > :06:35.to stop subsidies what can we do about that? Nothing. Because

:06:36. > :06:38.aboud that? Nothhng. Because we have less than 8% of the vote as MEPs

:06:39. > :06:40.aboud that? Nothhng. Because we have the parliament. We have had a

:06:41. > :06:41.prasent the parliament. We have had a

:06:42. > :06:42.present Prime Minister, prasent Ppime Milister, a current

:06:43. > :06:44.Prime Minister and David prasent Ppime Milister, a current

:06:45. > :06:47.yesterday explicitly saying that he yesterday epplicitly saxing th`t he

:06:48. > :06:49.is the Prime Minister could not give the guarantee that the same level of

:06:50. > :06:51.is the Prime Minister could not give funding that the EU provides Wales

:06:52. > :06:54.at the moment would be safeguarded at t`e moment would be rafeguarded

:06:55. > :06:57.by his Westminster Government. That's a current Prime Minister

:06:58. > :06:59.That's a bubrent Prime Linister saying something like that. Vote

:07:00. > :07:02.That's a bubrent Prime Linister them out in four years' time. You

:07:03. > :07:07.cannot give that guarantee, can them out in four years' time. You

:07:08. > :07:08.Well, he doesn't want people to know that there is goes to be a brighter

:07:09. > :07:10.and better future for us outside the that there is goes to be a brighter

:07:11. > :07:11.EU because he wants us to that there is goes to be a brighter

:07:12. > :07:12.EU becausd `e walts us to stay that there is goes to be a brighter

:07:13. > :07:12.EU because he wants us to stay in. that there is goes to be a brighter

:07:13. > :07:14.This is the project fear that we that there is goes to be a brighter

:07:15. > :07:17.have been talking about. What I am that there is goes to be a brighter

:07:18. > :07:22.saying is if he is seeriously isn't that there is goes to be a brighter

:07:23. > :07:22.going to give us back some of our moneq,

:07:23. > :07:24.going to give us back some of our money, then vote them out. Vote in

:07:25. > :07:25.people who will back us and money, then vote them out. Vote in

:07:26. > :07:28.us. That is us. Dhat hs the `eauty nf

:07:29. > :07:31.parliamentary democracy. That's what we want. We want to bring back

:07:32. > :07:32.parlaamentaby we want. We want to bring back

:07:33. > :07:35.parliamentary democracy to the British people. What would the

:07:36. > :07:38.parliamentary democracy to the future of Ukip look

:07:39. > :07:38.parliamentary democracy to the fupube of Ucip looc like af you had

:07:39. > :07:42.parliamentary democracy to the representation in Cardiff Bay after

:07:43. > :07:47.May but had lost the referendum in June? What would Ukip's going

:07:48. > :07:49.forward strategy be after that? fopward strategy be after that?

:07:50. > :07:53.Well, we are a a party that fopward strategy be after that?

:07:54. > :07:56.strongly that there needs to be stpongly that thdre needs to bd Lib

:07:57. > :07:58.tearian policies and people thinking stpongly that thdre needs to bd Lib

:07:59. > :08:00.about politics in a very different stpongly that thdre needs to bd Lib

:08:01. > :08:05.way. What we have way. What we havd seen time after

:08:06. > :08:06.time is that we have got this ping-pong politics between Labour

:08:07. > :08:08.time is that we have got this and the Conservatives and no real

:08:09. > :08:10.time is that we have got this difference between them. People need

:08:11. > :08:12.time is that we have got this a viable different party to believe

:08:13. > :08:13.in and trust in a viable different party to believe

:08:14. > :08:13.in and trusd in `nd a viable different party to believe

:08:14. > :08:14.in and trust in and to vote for. We a viable different party to believe

:08:15. > :08:17.are that party. We a viable different party to believe

:08:18. > :08:18.be that party. I am a viable different party to believe

:08:19. > :08:19.be t`at p`rty. I am convinced a viable different party to believe

:08:20. > :08:21.be that party. I am convinced that a viable different party to believe

:08:22. > :08:21.we will vote to leave the EU. The Britash

:08:22. > :08:22.we will vote to leave the EU. The British people always do the right

:08:23. > :08:26.thing in the end. Nathan Gill, we British people always do the right

:08:27. > :08:28.will see on 23rd June. Thank you wihl see nn 23rd June. Thank ynu for

:08:29. > :08:29.joining us from Llandudno. joining ur from Llandudno. Thank

:08:30. > :08:32.you. Earlier joining ur from Llandudno. Thank

:08:33. > :08:33.yoq. Earlieb the joining ur from Llandudno. Thank

:08:34. > :08:33.you. Earlier the keynote speaker was joining ur from Llandudno. Thank

:08:34. > :08:34.the party leader Nigel Farage. joining ur from Llandudno. Thank

:08:35. > :08:35.Here's what joining ur from Llandudno. Thank

:08:36. > :08:37.Hepe's wh`t he h`d joining ur from Llandudno. Thank

:08:38. > :08:37.Here's what he had to say. APPLAU E

:08:38. > :08:38.APPLAUSE Wehl,

:08:39. > :08:39.APPLAUSE Well, thank you very much, good

:08:40. > :08:44.APPLAUSE morning everybody! You know, I have

:08:45. > :08:49.APPLAUSE to pinch myself some mornings when I

:08:50. > :08:52.wake up because it's been, as Paul just said, a long 23-year slog. But,

:08:53. > :08:54.yoq just said, a long 23-year slog. But,

:08:55. > :08:57.you know what, it's happening. There's going to be a referendum on

:08:58. > :09:00.There's gning to be a referendtm on June 23rd.

:09:01. > :09:05.APPLAUSE June 23rd.

:09:06. > :09:05.And in many ways June 23rd.

:09:06. > :09:06.An` an many ways t`is June 23rd.

:09:07. > :09:06.And in many ways this referendum is An` in maly ways t`is referendtm is

:09:07. > :09:09.our victory. We were the only people An` in maly ways t`is referendtm is

:09:10. > :09:11.talking about this. We were the An` in maly ways t`is referendtm is

:09:12. > :09:12.people puttang An` in maly ways t`is referendtm is

:09:13. > :09:14.people putting it to the electorate, An` in maly ways t`is referendtm is

:09:15. > :09:16.time and time again and suddenly the An` in maly ways t`is referendtm is

:09:17. > :09:19.world is a bit less lonely than An` in maly ways t`is referendtm is

:09:20. > :09:19.wopld is ` bit less londlq than it world is a bit less lonely than it

:09:20. > :09:20.usad world is a bit less lonely than it

:09:21. > :09:24.used to be. Cabinet Ministers, used to bd. Cabilet inhsters,

:09:25. > :09:27.people in the Labour Party, used to bd. Cabilet inhsters,

:09:28. > :09:29.in the trade unions, standing up and in the trade unions, standing tp and

:09:30. > :09:35.saying the same thing we have saying thd came thang we `ave been

:09:36. > :09:36.saying, standing up and saying, lep'c

:09:37. > :09:36.saying, standing up and saying, let's make June

:09:37. > :09:37.saying, standing up and saying, lep'c makd June 03rd, 2016

:09:38. > :09:42.saying, standing up and saying, Independence Day. Let's do it.

:09:43. > :09:48.APPLAUSE Independence Day. Let's do it.

:09:49. > :09:54.There's been a lot of talk about the Thare's bden a lot of talc about the

:09:55. > :09:57.leave side being a divided camp. What has not been commented on is

:09:58. > :10:02.the fact that the remain the fact that thd remain side, or

:10:03. > :10:03.the Romanians as they're known... the fact that thd remain side, or

:10:04. > :10:10.LAUGHTER LAUGHT R

:10:11. > :10:16.Oh, well! I will be in trouble again, won't I? But actually, look

:10:17. > :10:18.at the remain side. You know, there is Nicola Sturgeon saying that David

:10:19. > :10:18.Caiebon is Nicola Sturgeon saying that David

:10:19. > :10:24.Cameron must not come north of the Caiebon mtsd not come nnrth of the

:10:25. > :10:24.border. Hilary Benn saying he woqldn't

:10:25. > :10:28.border. Hilary Benn saying he wouldn't share a platform with any

:10:29. > :10:30.border. Hilary Benn saying he Conservatives. Lord Rose who

:10:31. > :10:34.border. Hilary Benn saying he appears to be in winter

:10:35. > :10:34.appears to be in wanter habern`tion. But it is

:10:35. > :10:35.appears to be in wanter habern`tion. Bup at is tbue

:10:36. > :10:36.appears to be in wanter habern`tion. But it is true that there have been

:10:37. > :10:38.appears to be in wanter habern`tion. difficulties on our side of

:10:39. > :10:42.appears to be in wanter habern`tion. argument. I have been disappointed

:10:43. > :10:44.appears to be in wanter habern`tion. and worried that the vote leave

:10:45. > :10:46.organisation have just not wanted to organisation havd bust not wanted to

:10:47. > :10:47.work with anybody else or to merge organisation havd bust not wanted to

:10:48. > :10:53.with anybody else. But my real wiph anybndq elsd. But ly real worry

:10:54. > :10:57.was this talk that's been going wiph anybndq elsd. But ly real worry

:10:58. > :10:57.around of a double referendum. Neveb!

:10:58. > :11:00.around of a double referendum. Never! Yeah, you have heard it.

:11:01. > :11:03.Neteb! Yeah, you have hdard it. The talk of a double referendum that

:11:04. > :11:06.Neteb! Yeah, you have hdard it. The somehow we should vote in this

:11:07. > :11:08.Neteb! Yeah, you have hdard it. The referendum to leave so that we get a

:11:09. > :11:08.bepter referendum to leave so that we get a

:11:09. > :11:10.better deal and we then referendum to leave so that we get a

:11:11. > :11:12.referendum to remain. That is redebendul do remaan. That is not

:11:13. > :11:16.what I want. I am certain it's not what I walt. al certahn it's not

:11:17. > :11:18.what you want. what you want.

:11:19. > :11:20.APPLAUSE what you want.

:11:21. > :11:20.And what you want.

:11:21. > :11:22.An` at's vrong. what you want.

:11:23. > :11:26.And it's wrong. It is wrong. what you want.

:11:27. > :11:31.the way to win this referendum is we have to tell the British people that

:11:32. > :11:31.this is the single most important pohidical

:11:32. > :11:33.this is the single most important political decision that they will

:11:34. > :11:35.this is the single most important take in their life Times and

:11:36. > :11:35.this is the single most important take in thear life Times and even If

:11:36. > :11:37.this is the single most important they've never voted before and they

:11:38. > :11:39.they've ndver voted before and they never intend

:11:40. > :11:41.they've ndver voted before and they the time to go to the polling

:11:42. > :11:41.tha dime to go to the pnlling station,

:11:42. > :11:42.tha dime to go to the pnlling stataon, to

:11:43. > :11:46.tha dime to go to the pnlling station, to win back our democratic

:11:47. > :11:50.tha dime to go to the pnlling freedoms and rights as British

:11:51. > :11:54.people. APPLAU E

:11:55. > :11:55.people. I phank

:11:56. > :11:55.people. I think that

:11:56. > :11:56.people. I phank thad tod`y

:11:57. > :11:56.people. I think that today is a very, very

:11:57. > :12:01.people. good day. A very good day because

:12:02. > :12:03.people. last Sunday we saw Boris Johnson

:12:04. > :12:03.emarging last Sunday we saw Boris Johnson

:12:04. > :12:05.emerging from his house in last Sunday we saw Boris Johnson

:12:06. > :12:08.London. I thought last Sunday we saw Boris Johnson

:12:09. > :12:10.news. Boris, one of the best-known last Sunday we saw Boris Johnson

:12:11. > :12:11.political faces in the last Sunday we saw Boris Johnson

:12:12. > :12:13.joining the leave side, this must be last Sunday we saw Boris Johnson

:12:14. > :12:19.good news. But I was worried. last Sunday we saw Boris Johnson

:12:20. > :12:23.worried because he started to talk last Sunday we saw Boris Johnson

:12:24. > :12:26.about a double referendum. But clearly Boris has thought about

:12:27. > :12:28.about a double referendum. But over the course of the last

:12:29. > :12:28.about a double referendum. But ovar the boerse nf the last week

:12:29. > :12:29.about a double referendum. But over the course of the last week and

:12:30. > :12:32.about a double referendum. But in today's Times newspaper he now

:12:33. > :12:34.totally disowns the concept of a totally dhsowns the conbept of a

:12:35. > :12:35.double referendum, says he totally dhsowns the conbept of a

:12:36. > :12:35.double redebendul, says he is doqble redebendul, says he is hn

:12:36. > :12:40.this for the proper fight, he says doqble redebendul, says he is hn

:12:41. > :12:41.voting to leave means leave and I voping to leave leans leave and I

:12:42. > :12:46.think we should show what voping to leave leans leave and I

:12:47. > :12:48.good-hearted people we are in Ukip and give Conservative Mayor

:12:49. > :12:48.good-hearted people we are in Ukip and give Bonserv`tave Mayor of

:12:49. > :12:51.and give Conservative Mayor of London Boris Johnson a

:12:52. > :12:52.and give Conservative Mayor of Loldon Boric Johlson a big

:12:53. > :12:53.and give Conservative Mayor of London Boris Johnson a big cheer for

:12:54. > :12:53.saying that. APPLAUSE

:12:54. > :12:53.saying that. APPLAU E AND

:12:54. > :13:02.saying that. CHEERING

:13:03. > :13:10.It's funny what a referendum cheebing a

:13:11. > :13:11.It's funny what a referendum cheering a Tory, you know! There you

:13:12. > :13:17.cheebing ` Dory, you knnw! There you are! I have to say that I have now

:13:18. > :13:20.cheebing ` Dory, you knnw! There you spoken at the first three public

:13:21. > :13:21.evands spoken at the first three public

:13:22. > :13:30.events put on by grass roots out go. spoken at the first three public

:13:31. > :13:33.I want to pay tribute to Conservative MPs Peter Bone and the

:13:34. > :13:34.Laboer Conservative MPs Peter Bone and the

:13:35. > :13:37.Labour MP Kate Hoey for setting Conservative MPs Peter Bone and the

:13:38. > :13:37.Laboer MP Kate Hoeq for settinf the Labour MP Kate Hoey for setting the

:13:38. > :13:39.whole thilg up Labour MP Kate Hoey for setting the

:13:40. > :13:41.whole thing up in the first place. APPLAU E

:13:42. > :13:44.whole thing up in the first place. I think that to win this referendum

:13:45. > :13:48.I phank thad to vin this referendum we have to cast aside any previous

:13:49. > :13:50.political differences. Whatever's polidical dafferences. Vhatever's

:13:51. > :13:52.been said in campaigns, polidical dafferences. Vhatever's

:13:53. > :13:54.been said about us, we have to polidical dafferences. Vhatever's

:13:55. > :13:57.that behind us. We polidical dafferences. Vhatever's

:13:58. > :13:57.that behild us. Ve need polidical dafferences. Vhatever's

:13:58. > :14:00.understand and perhaps elements of un`ebstand and pdr`aps dlements of

:14:01. > :14:03.our media need to understand that un`ebstand and pdr`aps dlements of

:14:04. > :14:05.can not and un`ebstand and pdr`aps dlements of

:14:06. > :14:05.can not ald we will not un`ebstand and pdr`aps dlements of

:14:06. > :14:08.can not and we will not win un`ebstand and pdr`aps dlements of

:14:09. > :14:08.referendum purely from the centbe-righd

:14:09. > :14:12.referendum purely from the centre-right of politics in this

:14:13. > :14:13.country. There are millions of old Laboer

:14:14. > :14:14.country. There are millions of old La`our votebs out there who are

:14:15. > :14:17.country. There are millions of old truly patriotic. There are now

:14:18. > :14:18.country. There are millions of old rumblings within the trade union

:14:19. > :14:20.country. There are millions of old movement with people beginning to

:14:21. > :14:22.country. There are millions of old realise that actually all these

:14:23. > :14:24.country. There are millions of old fabled rights that come to us from

:14:25. > :14:24.the fabled rights that come to us from

:14:25. > :14:26.tha European fabled rights that come to us from

:14:27. > :14:27.the European Union really what we have

:14:28. > :14:27.the European Union really what we hate seen

:14:28. > :14:29.the European Union really what we have seen are the displacement of

:14:30. > :14:31.the European Union really what we British workers and the average

:14:32. > :14:33.the European Union really what we wages for Britons being

:14:34. > :14:35.the European Union really what we by too much cheap labour coming into

:14:36. > :14:36.the European Union really what we Britain from southern and

:14:37. > :14:41.Britain fpom southern and Eastern Europe.

:14:42. > :14:46.Euro`e. APPLAUSE

:14:47. > :14:49.Euro`e. So we must portray this as not

:14:50. > :14:51.So we must `ortray this as not being a battle of left and right. It's

:14:52. > :14:51.So we must `ortray this as not being battle of right

:14:52. > :14:52.So we must `ortray this as not being baptle of raght `nd

:14:53. > :14:54.So we must `ortray this as not being battle of right and wrong. It's a

:14:55. > :14:54.baptle battle of right and wrong. It's a

:14:55. > :14:55.battle about who governs our battle abnud who governr our

:14:56. > :14:57.country. That's the message we have coqndry. That's the mesrage we have

:14:58. > :15:08.to put out there. The referendum is based on Mr

:15:09. > :15:18.Cameron's renegotiation. The referendum is based on Mr

:15:19. > :15:19.LAUGHTER. You are not very The referendum is based on Mr

:15:20. > :15:19.LAUG@TER. You are not vdry gendrals LAUGHTER. You are not very generals

:15:20. > :15:20.yoq LAUGHTER. You are not very generals

:15:21. > :15:20.you spirited souls this morning are yoq?

:15:21. > :15:23.you spirited souls this morning are you? I agree with you.

:15:24. > :15:23.you spirited souls this morning are you? I agpee with qou. Fiven the

:15:24. > :15:25.you? I agree with you. Given the high vaunting ambitions we heard,

:15:26. > :15:26.you? I agree with you. Given the high vaunting am`itions we heard, in

:15:27. > :15:27.you? I agree with you. Given the that Bloomberg speech three years

:15:28. > :15:29.you? I agree with you. Given the ago, what he came back with but

:15:30. > :15:32.pretty pathetic. But what ago, what he came back with but

:15:33. > :15:32.pretdy pathetic. But what is ago, what he came back with but

:15:33. > :15:35.pretty pathetic. But what is worse pratdy pathetic. But wh`t is worse

:15:36. > :15:35.than that, is his quite deliberate atpempt

:15:36. > :15:37.than that, is his quite deliberate attempt to pull the wool over the

:15:38. > :15:40.eyas attempt to pull the wool over the

:15:41. > :15:40.eyes of the British public, by tehlang

:15:41. > :15:42.eyes of the British public, by telling us that what

:15:43. > :15:43.eyes of the British public, by tellang ur dhat what he has

:15:44. > :15:45.eyes of the British public, by telling us that what he has been

:15:46. > :15:51.eyes of the British public, by granded is legally bindhng.

:15:52. > :15:53.What did you call the Prime Minister? I

:15:54. > :15:55.What did you call the Prime Milicter? I find t`is quite

:15:56. > :16:01.What did you call the Prime extraordilaby. I must

:16:02. > :16:03.What did you call the Prime extraordinary. I must say. I am not

:16:04. > :16:05.going to use that word. We are! extraordinary. I must say. I am not

:16:06. > :16:08.know that. extraordinary. I must say. I am not

:16:09. > :16:08.know that, A extraordinary. I must say. I am not

:16:09. > :16:10.know that. I oh I know that. I might extraordinary. I must say. I am not

:16:11. > :16:12.lead the People's Army but I can't extraordinary. I must say. I am not

:16:13. > :16:24.control it. extraordinary. I must say. I am not

:16:25. > :16:27.Yeah. Goodness knows I have tried... extraordinary. I must say. I am not

:16:28. > :16:30.LAUGHTER extraordinary. I must say. I am not

:16:31. > :16:35.But this deal, this deal extraordinary. I must say. I am not

:16:36. > :16:36.legally binding, because it can be struck down by the European

:16:37. > :16:39.legally binding, because it can be Parliament, it can be ruled out of

:16:40. > :16:40.coqrd, Parliament, it can be ruled out of

:16:41. > :16:40.court, by the European Court Parliament, it can be ruled out of

:16:41. > :16:41.coqrd, by t`e Eupopean Court of Parliament, it can be ruled out of

:16:42. > :16:41.Justice, and the people Parliament, it can be ruled out of

:16:42. > :16:42.Justace, `nd the people wath Parliament, it can be ruled out of

:16:43. > :16:44.Justice, and the people with whom Parliament, it can be ruled out of

:16:45. > :16:47.has made the gentleman's agreement, won't even be in their positions in

:16:48. > :16:50.has made the gentleman's agreement, a few years' time, but the

:16:51. > :16:54.has made the gentleman's agreement, laughable thing, the most laughable

:16:55. > :16:56.thing is that the Prime Minister said that time, but the most

:16:57. > :16:56.laqg`able thing, said that time, but the most

:16:57. > :16:57.laughable thing, the said that time, but the most

:16:58. > :16:57.laqg`able thing, t`e most laughable thing, the most laughable

:16:58. > :16:58.thing is that the Prime Minister laughable thing, the most laughable

:16:59. > :17:00.said that wath this deal laughable thing, the most laughable

:17:01. > :17:00.said that with this deal he said "I woqld

:17:01. > :17:01.said that with this deal he said "I would now vote to join the

:17:02. > :17:01.said that with this deal he said "I woqld now vote to boin the EuropeaN

:17:02. > :17:03.Union." LAUGHTER. I just thought

:17:04. > :17:03.Union." LAQGHT R. I just t`ought perhaps we

:17:04. > :17:03.LAUGHTER. I just thought perhaps we woqld

:17:04. > :17:04.LAUGHTER. I just thought perhaps we would try and rul

:17:05. > :17:07.LAUGHTER. I just thought perhaps we would try and run through that

:17:08. > :17:09.moment. So the Prime Minister gets up in the

:17:10. > :17:10.Hoqse So the Prime Minister gets up in the

:17:11. > :17:11.House at for a moment. So the Prime Minister

:17:12. > :17:11.House at for a moment. So t`e Prime Minister gdts up

:17:12. > :17:12.House at for a moment. So the Prime Minister gets up in the

:17:13. > :17:13.House at for a moment. House of Commons and says "We are

:17:14. > :17:14.House at for a moment. going to have a referendum on June

:17:15. > :17:18.23rd, on whether Britain joins the going to have a referendum on June

:17:19. > :17:22.European Union." There are one or two changes that we are going June

:17:23. > :17:25.23rd, on whether Britain joins the European Union." There are one or

:17:26. > :17:25.23rd, on whether Britain joins the two changes that we are going to

:17:26. > :17:26.need to make. "I know we have need to m`ke. "I know we `ave

:17:27. > :17:27.governed ourselves for the last governed nubselvds for the last

:17:28. > :17:29.thousand year, but I tell you what, governed nubselvds for the last

:17:30. > :17:30.let's sign up to let'c sigl ep to an org`nasation who

:17:31. > :17:31.will now make let'c sigl ep to an org`nasation who

:17:32. > :17:32.will now lace 75% let'c sigl ep to an org`nasation who

:17:33. > :17:33.will now make 75% of the laws let'c sigl ep to an org`nasation who

:17:34. > :17:37.we used to make in this we uced to make hn this Parlialent,

:17:38. > :17:39.and let's make the European Court of we uced to make hn this Parlialent,

:17:40. > :17:40.Justice across we uced to make hn this Parlialent,

:17:41. > :17:41.Justice abross Wdstminster we uced to make hn this Parlialent,

:17:42. > :17:42.redundant and let's we uced to make hn this Parlialent,

:17:43. > :17:43.re`undant and let's hand we uced to make hn this Parlialent,

:17:44. > :17:43.redundant and let's hand over the ultimate lag

:17:44. > :17:44.redundant and let's hand over the ultimate law of the

:17:45. > :17:46.redundant and let's hand over the ultimate lag of the land

:17:47. > :17:47.redundant and let's hand over the ultimate law of the land to a

:17:48. > :17:48.ulpimate lag of the land to a bourt in Luxembourg, staffed by people who

:17:49. > :17:49.aren't even judges." in Luxembourg, staffed by people who

:17:50. > :17:50.aran't even judgds." Th`t in Luxembourg, staffed by people who

:17:51. > :17:54.aren't even judges." That is how in Luxembourg, staffed by people who

:17:55. > :17:54.starts. That is how it starts and it geps

:17:55. > :17:55.starts. That is how it starts and it gets better, doesn't it. Ren't even

:17:56. > :17:57.ju`ges." gets better, doesn't it. Ren't even

:17:58. > :17:57.judges." That is how it starts. That is how it starts

:17:58. > :17:58.judges." That is how it starts. That is how it sdarts and

:17:59. > :17:58.judges." That is how it starts. That is how it starts and it gets better,

:17:59. > :17:59.doasn't it. It is how it starts and it gets better,

:18:00. > :18:01.doesn't it. It gets better. "No is how it starts and it gets better,

:18:02. > :18:01.longer will we be in charge of mannang

:18:02. > :18:01.longer will we be in charge of manning our steel

:18:02. > :18:02.longer will we be in charge of mannang our steel industrq

:18:03. > :18:02.longer will we be in charge of manning our steel industry or

:18:03. > :18:04.manning our steel andustrq or financial services sector and we

:18:05. > :18:05.have decided financial services sector and we

:18:06. > :18:08.200 miles of the North Sea for 200 miles of the North Rea for our

:18:09. > :18:09.fishing rights is 200 miles of the North Rea for our

:18:10. > :18:10.fishing rig`ts is a bit fishing rights is a bit outdated, so

:18:11. > :18:16.we will share it out with the rest fishing rights is a bit outdated, so

:18:17. > :18:16.of Europe. We will of course increasinflq

:18:17. > :18:18.of Europe. We will of course increasingly have this organisation

:18:19. > :18:19.spaacing increasingly have this organisation

:18:20. > :18:21.speaking for us, in increasingly have this organisation

:18:22. > :18:21.spaacing for us, in terms of increasingly have this organisation

:18:22. > :18:22.speaking for us, in terms of foreign pohicy,

:18:23. > :18:24.speaking for us, in terms of foreign policy, and any law, any law that is

:18:25. > :18:24.ma`e policy, and any law, any law that is

:18:25. > :18:28.made that we don't like, we can't do policy, and any law, any law that is

:18:29. > :18:29.a single thing about. And policy, and any law, any law that is

:18:30. > :18:30.a single thang about. And for policy, and any law, any law that is

:18:31. > :18:33.a single thing about. And for all of policy, and any law, any law that is

:18:34. > :18:38.this, the really good news... Is policy, and any law, any law that is

:18:39. > :18:41.that it is going to cost up ?55 million a day, to join the club." I

:18:42. > :18:43.mihlion a day, to boin the club." I mean we know what the answer would

:18:44. > :18:48.be. APPLAU E.

:18:49. > :18:52.be. APPLAUSE.

:18:53. > :18:55.be. But they are now all lining up

:18:56. > :18:58.be. behind him. Big businesses, big

:18:59. > :19:00.be. banks like

:19:01. > :19:00.be. balkc like Goldm`n Sachs and big

:19:01. > :19:03.be. politics and this week, has seen the

:19:04. > :19:06.laqnch politics and this week, has seen the

:19:07. > :19:11.launch of Project Fear we have heard in Wales that without membership of

:19:12. > :19:13.the European Union, all agriculture in Wales that without membership of

:19:14. > :19:19.would cease. I thought the Welsh in Wales that without membership of

:19:20. > :19:19.were farming before we joined the Coimon

:19:20. > :19:20.were farming before we joined the Common Market but perhaps I

:19:21. > :19:20.were farming before we joined the Coimon Mapket but perhaps I am

:19:21. > :19:24.Common Market but perhaps I am wrong. We are told in many cases all

:19:25. > :19:26.Common Market but perhaps I am trade would stop, that millions

:19:27. > :19:26.trade would stop, that lillionr of jobs would

:19:27. > :19:26.trade would stop, that lillionr of jo`s would be

:19:27. > :19:28.trade would stop, that lillionr of jobs would be at risk and we have

:19:29. > :19:30.trade would stop, that lillionr of been told the lie that to have

:19:31. > :19:31.trade would stop, that lillionr of access to the single markets, we

:19:32. > :19:34.accecs to t`e silgle markets, ve will have to continue

:19:35. > :19:38.accecs to t`e silgle markets, ve movement of people. I would say that

:19:39. > :19:40.motement nf people. would sax that these letters

:19:41. > :19:40.motement nf people. would sax that these lettebs th`t

:19:41. > :19:42.motement nf people. would sax that these letters that keep getting sent

:19:43. > :19:42.oup these letters that keep getting sent

:19:43. > :19:44.out from Downing Street, regardless out from Dogning Street, regardless

:19:45. > :19:45.whether the out from Dogning Street, regardless

:19:46. > :19:46.whet`er the inditiduals whether the inditiduals concerned

:19:47. > :19:51.have signed them or not, whether the inditiduals concerned

:19:52. > :19:52.hate signdd them or not, but of whether the inditiduals concerned

:19:53. > :19:53.people. I would say that these lepters

:19:54. > :19:53.people. I would say that these letters that keep getting sent

:19:54. > :19:54.people. I would say that these letters thad keep getting sent out

:19:55. > :19:54.letters that keep getting sent out from Downhng

:19:55. > :19:54.letters that keep getting sent out from Downing Street, regardless

:19:55. > :19:55.what`er from Downing Street, regardless

:19:56. > :19:55.whether the individuals concerned have

:19:56. > :19:56.whether the individuals concerned hate signdd

:19:57. > :19:56.whether the individuals concerned have signed them or not, but

:19:57. > :19:57.whether the individuals concerned hate signdd them or not, but I

:19:58. > :19:57.whether the individuals concerned say - thalk

:19:58. > :19:58.whether the individuals concerned say - thank owning

:19:59. > :19:58.whether the individuals concerned say - thalk ownilg Street,

:19:59. > :19:59.say - thank owning Street, regabdlesr ghethdr the individtals

:20:00. > :20:00.regardless whether the individuals concerned have signed them or not,

:20:01. > :20:02.bup concerned have signed them or not,

:20:03. > :20:02.but I would say - thank you for your hehp.

:20:03. > :20:03.but I would say - thank you for your help. - I would say the letter, the

:20:04. > :20:05.mood of the debate from the help. - I would say the letter, the

:20:06. > :20:05.mood of the debate from t`e in camp mood of the debate from the in camp

:20:06. > :20:05.has been near mood of the debate from the in camp

:20:06. > :20:06.has been lear his #2erical, mood of the debate from the in camp

:20:07. > :20:07.has been near his #2erical, and I thinc that

:20:08. > :20:08.has been near his #2erical, and I think that -- hysterical, and I

:20:09. > :20:09.has been near his #2erical, and I think that is good becatse they are

:20:10. > :20:09.has been near his #2erical, and I scared of us.

:20:10. > :20:10.has been near his #2erical, and I scared of uc. Vepy

:20:11. > :20:15.has been near his #2erical, and I scared of uc. Very very

:20:16. > :20:21.us, They keep asking. They keep asking

:20:22. > :20:23.us, what without out look like? Wouldn't

:20:24. > :20:25.it be an uncertain world, a leap in what without out look like? Wouldn't

:20:26. > :20:26.dark, what without out look like? Wouldn't

:20:27. > :20:27.dapk, the what without out look like? Wouldn't

:20:28. > :20:30.dark, the phrases you have heard this week and you will hear

:20:31. > :20:31.dark, the phrases you have heard continually between now and June

:20:32. > :20:36.23rd. Let me tell you with total 23rd. Let me tell qou wit` total

:20:37. > :20:39.certainty, that when we vote to leave this European Union, when we

:20:40. > :20:41.certainty, that when we vote to have put through our divorce

:20:42. > :20:44.hate put thbough our divorce with this political union, let me tell

:20:45. > :20:44.hate put thbough our divorce with you with total

:20:45. > :20:45.hate put thbough our divorce with yoq gith todal certainty

:20:46. > :20:45.hate put thbough our divorce with you with total certainty what out

:20:46. > :20:48.hate put thbough our divorce with will look like. We will be back in

:20:49. > :20:51.hate put thbough our divorce with control, of our country, and we will

:20:52. > :20:53.contbol, nf our bountry, and we will be once again an independent nation.

:20:54. > :20:56.That is what out looks like. That is whad out looks lice.

:20:57. > :21:06.CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.

:21:07. > :21:11.And we, we will make the rules. will make the rules, that govern

:21:12. > :21:12.And we, we will make the rules. will make t`e rules, that govern our

:21:13. > :21:15.will make t`e rules, th`t govern our steel industry. We will reclaim our

:21:16. > :21:16.will make t`e rules, th`t govern our territorial waters and

:21:17. > :21:19.will make t`e rules, th`t govern our our fishing industry. We

:21:20. > :21:23.oup fishilg indurtry. Wd will ret the rules for our financial services

:21:24. > :21:25.in`uctry, the rules for our financial services

:21:26. > :21:29.industry, and any law, any law that is made by our Government and our

:21:30. > :21:30.industry, and any law, any law that Parliament, we once every five years

:21:31. > :21:32.Papliament, we olce every five years will have the opportunity

:21:33. > :21:32.wihl have t`e opportunity to vnte for a

:21:33. > :21:33.wihl have t`e opportunity to vnte fop a new

:21:34. > :21:33.wihl have t`e opportunity to vnte for a new set of politicians,

:21:34. > :21:34.wihl have t`e opportunity to vnte fop a new set of politicians, who

:21:35. > :21:36.wihl have t`e opportunity to vnte will get rid of those rules, and

:21:37. > :21:38.wihl get pid of those rules, and replace them with their own set of

:21:39. > :21:43.rules. replace them with their own set of

:21:44. > :21:46.democracy, and it is something that...

:21:47. > :21:51.APPLAUSE APPLAU E @P@L USE.

:21:52. > :21:55.... It is something so APPLAU E @P@L USE.

:21:56. > :21:57..., At is something so preciour, ... At is somethhng so preciour, it

:21:58. > :22:00.is something so fundamental, that those that gent

:22:01. > :22:02.is something so fundamental, that those that went before us, in the

:22:03. > :22:04.those that gent `efore ts, in the 20th century, twice,

:22:05. > :22:04.those that gent `efore ts, in the 20th centurq, twice, risk,

:22:05. > :22:06.those that gent `efore ts, in the cases sacrificed everything they had

:22:07. > :22:09.those that gent `efore ts, in the to make sure that that we and indeed

:22:10. > :22:11.those that gent `efore ts, in the the rest of Europe could live as

:22:12. > :22:12.frae the rest of Europe could live as

:22:13. > :22:12.free Parliamentary democracies, and the rest of Europe could live as

:22:13. > :22:14.that is what out look like, the rest of Europe could live as

:22:15. > :22:15.that is whad out look like, we the rest of Europe could live as

:22:16. > :22:18.that is what out look like, we will the rest of Europe could live as

:22:19. > :22:19.become a proper functioning the rest of Europe could live as

:22:20. > :22:20.Parliamentary the rest of Europe could live as

:22:21. > :22:25.CHEERING AND APPLAU E.

:22:26. > :22:29.APPLAUSE. APPLAUSE.

:22:30. > :22:31.And we need to recognise that APPLAUSE.

:22:32. > :22:31.An` ge need to recognisd that nnly APPLAUSE.

:22:32. > :22:34.15% of our economy is involved with APPLAUSE.

:22:35. > :22:34.exports APPLAUSE.

:22:35. > :22:35.expobts to Europe APPLAUSE.

:22:36. > :22:36.exports to Europe and yet, as expobts to Europd and ydt, as

:22:37. > :22:37.members of the expobts to Europd and ydt, as

:22:38. > :22:37.meibers of dhe single expobts to Europd and ydt, as

:22:38. > :22:39.members of the single market, we expobts to Europd and ydt, as

:22:40. > :22:40.have a expobts to Europd and ydt, as

:22:41. > :22:41.hate a rule book t`at expobts to Europd and ydt, as

:22:42. > :22:44.have a rule book that binds 100 expobts to Europd and ydt, as

:22:45. > :22:45.percent of our businesses. One of tha

:22:46. > :22:46.percent of our businesses. One of the first things want to see

:22:47. > :22:46.percent of our businesses. One of tha first things want to seE a

:22:47. > :22:48.percent of our businesses. One of British Government is doing is give

:22:49. > :22:50.percent of our businesses. One of an even break to the five million

:22:51. > :22:52.men and women that run small an even break to the five million

:22:53. > :23:01.businesses in this country. APPLAU E.

:23:02. > :23:05.And the debate this week, the debate APPLAU E.

:23:06. > :23:11.this week has moved on to trade policy. Mr Cameron r in the

:23:12. > :23:16.pohicy. Mp Cameron r in t`e latnch of the Conservatives incampaign, Mr

:23:17. > :23:19.pohicy. Mp Cameron r in t`e latnch Cameron, sleeves rolled up, said

:23:20. > :23:20.pohicy. Mp Cameron r in t`e latnch that the negotiations between

:23:21. > :23:20.pohicy. Mp Cameron r in t`e latnch that the negotiations bdtween the

:23:21. > :23:21.that the negotiations between the Euro`ean

:23:22. > :23:23.that the negotiations between the European Union and Canada, to have

:23:24. > :23:26.that the negotiations between the free trade deal, those negotiations

:23:27. > :23:33.that the negotiations between the have now taken seven years. He used

:23:34. > :23:40.this as an argument for us remaining in. I would have thought there count

:23:41. > :23:41.be a better or clearer argument acpually dob us

:23:42. > :23:44.be a better or clearer argument actually for us leaving, and

:23:45. > :23:44.be a better or clearer argument negotiating our own trade policy.

:23:45. > :23:54.APPLAUSE. negotiating our own trade policy.

:23:55. > :23:55.And it is noticeable, it is pretty nopiceable

:23:56. > :23:56.And it is noticeable, it is pretty noticeable dhat even

:23:57. > :23:57.And it is noticeable, it is pretty noticeable that even a

:23:58. > :23:57.And it is noticeable, it is pretty noticeable dhat even a bountry the

:23:58. > :23:58.And it is noticeable, it is pretty size of ice land, which

:23:59. > :23:59.And it is noticeable, it is pretty sixe of ice land, which is fewer

:24:00. > :24:00.And it is noticeable, it is pretty than a third of a million people,

:24:01. > :24:01.than a thhrd of ` million people, even

:24:02. > :24:02.than a thhrd of ` million people, evan they

:24:03. > :24:03.than a thhrd of ` million people, even they have been able to

:24:04. > :24:05.than a thhrd of ` million people, negotiate their own trade deal

:24:06. > :24:07.than a thhrd of ` million people, China. And Switzerland have got more

:24:08. > :24:07.free China. And Switzerland have got more

:24:08. > :24:08.frae tradd China. And Switzerland have got more

:24:09. > :24:09.free trade agreements across the frae tradd agreements abross the

:24:10. > :24:11.world than we have frae tradd agreements abross the

:24:12. > :24:11.wopld thal ge hate got as membdrs frae tradd agreements abross the

:24:12. > :24:13.world than we have got as members of frae tradd agreements abross the

:24:14. > :24:14.this union. We are, ladies and frae tradd agreements abross the

:24:15. > :24:20.gentlemen, the fifth biggest economy gentlemen, dhe fifth biggest economy

:24:21. > :24:21.in the world, we r and have for centeries

:24:22. > :24:22.in the world, we r and have for centuries been a global

:24:23. > :24:24.in the world, we r and have for nation, and we should set, we should

:24:25. > :24:25.in the world, we r and have for set our own trade agreements with

:24:26. > :24:26.in the world, we r and have for the rest of

:24:27. > :24:28.in the world, we r and have for the best of the world, and

:24:29. > :24:28.in the world, we r and have for the rest of the world, and perhaps a

:24:29. > :24:29.very good place to the rest of the world, and perhaps a

:24:30. > :24:30.vepy good place to start the rest of the world, and perhaps a

:24:31. > :24:34.very good place to start would be vepy good place to start would be

:24:35. > :24:35.the 54 countries and 2.2 billion people that live within the

:24:36. > :24:40.Coimonwealt`. And for those that say, for those

:24:41. > :24:48.APPLAUSE. And for those that say, for those

:24:49. > :24:51.that say that the other European And for those that say, for those

:24:52. > :24:52.states in the European Union would And for those that say, for those

:24:53. > :24:57.not wish to have a proper Fairtrade And for those that say, for those

:24:58. > :24:58.deal with Britain, my response is siiple.

:24:59. > :25:01.deal with Britain, my response is simple. Just look at of your window,

:25:02. > :25:03.deal with Britain, my response is see how many German

:25:04. > :25:03.deal with Britain, my response is see how manq German cars

:25:04. > :25:03.deal with Britain, my response is see how many German cars there are

:25:04. > :25:04.drivang see how many German cars there are

:25:05. > :25:11.driving on the roads. See just see how many German cars there are

:25:12. > :25:12.driving ol the roads. See just how driving on the roads. See just how

:25:13. > :25:13.many driving on the roads. See just how

:25:14. > :25:13.maly Mercedes, driving on the roads. See just how

:25:14. > :25:14.many Mercedes, BMW, Volkswagens.

:25:15. > :25:21.LAQG@T R. Volkswagens.

:25:22. > :25:21.There is an owner over there. I can tehl,

:25:22. > :25:24.There is an owner over there. I can tell, he has gone red! Look how

:25:25. > :25:28.There is an owner over there. I can German cars there are, look how

:25:29. > :25:31.There is an owner over there. I can French wine was sold at the Ukip

:25:32. > :25:32.Gaha French wine was sold at the Ukip

:25:33. > :25:33.Gala dinner last night! Recognise... French wine was sold at the Ukip

:25:34. > :25:38.Yes. Recognise that we are French wine was sold at the Ukip

:25:39. > :25:39.Yes. Recognase that we `re now the French wine was sold at the Ukip

:25:40. > :25:43.eurozone's most important French wine was sold at the Ukip

:25:44. > :25:44.place in the world. Don't listen to cohlege

:25:45. > :25:47.place in the world. Don't listen to college kid politician, who have

:25:48. > :25:48.never had a job in their lives, tehlang

:25:49. > :25:50.never had a job in their lives, telling you what would happen to

:25:51. > :25:52.never had a job in their lives, trade, believe me I

:25:53. > :25:53.trade, believe md A worked in international trade, for

:25:54. > :25:54.trade, believe md A worked in inpebnational trade, for 20

:25:55. > :25:54.international trade, for 20 year, befobe

:25:55. > :25:55.international trade, for 20 year, before getting into politicings and

:25:56. > :25:57.tha before getting into politicings and

:25:58. > :26:00.the one thing I know about global trade is it is the customer who

:26:01. > :26:02.the one thing I know about global kilg and

:26:03. > :26:03.the one thing I know about global king and we clearly are the

:26:04. > :26:08.customer. CHAEBI G

:26:09. > :26:13.customer. APPLAUSE.

:26:14. > :26:20.And what out looks like is we take back control, we do what normal

:26:21. > :26:20.coqndries back control, we do what normal

:26:21. > :26:26.countries all over the world do, we back control, we do what normal

:26:27. > :26:29.take back control of our borders and we decide who comes to live, work

:26:30. > :26:35.an` we decide who comes to live, work

:26:36. > :26:35.and settle in this country. An`

:26:36. > :26:37.and settle in this country. And it is...

:26:38. > :26:40.An` at is... APPLAUSE... This is the number

:26:41. > :26:42.APPLAU E.,. This is the number one issue in British politics. And the

:26:43. > :26:47.Government, of course, realised issue in British politics. And the

:26:48. > :26:48.that. Which is why repeatedly, since 2010, the Prime

:26:49. > :26:49.that. Which is why repeatedly, since 2010, the Pbime Linister and the

:26:50. > :26:49.2010, the Prime Minister and the Hoie

:26:50. > :26:51.2010, the Prime Minister and the Home Secretary Theresa May,

:26:52. > :26:53.2010, the Prime Minister and the endlessly make promises, to bring

:26:54. > :26:56.2010, the Prime Minister and the levels of net migration in Britain

:26:57. > :26:57.down, to tens of t`ousand levels of net migration in Britain

:26:58. > :26:57.down, to tens of thousand a levels of net migration in Britain

:26:58. > :27:01.down, to tens of t`ousand a year. levels of net migration in Britain