:00:13. > :00:16.But saying that, we should not be naive.
:00:17. > :00:19.I want to say that we have to tackle the problems which are ahead of us.
:00:20. > :00:23.And I think that we are best prepared to do so.
:00:24. > :00:31.But we are not in the best form and shape we could be in.
:00:32. > :00:34.Well, there are some who have compared the vision on Saturday
:00:35. > :00:40.of the 27 leaders there to musicians on board the Titanic.
:00:41. > :00:43.I mean, it's not as dramatic as that.
:00:44. > :00:46.What words would you give to the people of Europe?
:00:47. > :00:50.You have put down on a paper certain visions for the form of Europe.
:00:51. > :00:55.Countries then unified around this idea of bringing peace
:00:56. > :01:00.But now there doesn't seem to be that vision
:01:01. > :01:06.Yes, but that's not the reason not to tell the people that the very
:01:07. > :01:09.origin of the European Union, European integration,
:01:10. > :01:14.European construction, was the result of World War II.
:01:15. > :01:20.We have to remind those we are living with that,
:01:21. > :01:25.this was the real reason for the European Union.
:01:26. > :01:28.But as I said, this is not a sufficient explanation
:01:29. > :01:32.or narrative, as we are saying today, because it is
:01:33. > :01:40.My generation is an inter-generation.
:01:41. > :01:46.We are children of those who experienced the Second World War.
:01:47. > :01:48.And we have children and grandchildren.
:01:49. > :01:53.Yes, we have grandchildren too, who don't know anything about that.
:01:54. > :02:00.But we have to organise in the best way possible in the future for them.
:02:01. > :02:03.You obviously, as President of the European Commission,
:02:04. > :02:06.are a great believer in the European Union.
:02:07. > :02:08.But when Theresa May is not there on Saturday,
:02:09. > :02:13.what will be in your mind as the way to stop others following suit?
:02:14. > :02:15.Other member states walking out the door?
:02:16. > :02:19.Will you try and use the negotiations around
:02:20. > :02:24.Even if the British PM is not there, I will have the British
:02:25. > :02:31.Because Britain belongs to Europe in a way that
:02:32. > :02:38.So Brexit or not Brexit, we should not forget
:02:39. > :02:43.that the European continent has a duty when it comes to Britain,
:02:44. > :02:47.because without Churchill and without the resilience
:02:48. > :02:50.of the British people, we wouldn't be here at where we are now.
:02:51. > :02:56.So I'm everything but in a hostile mood when it comes to Britain.
:02:57. > :03:00.But I don't want others to take the same avenue, because,
:03:01. > :03:06.let's suppose for one second that others would leave.
:03:07. > :03:12.Two, three, four, five - that would be the end.
:03:13. > :03:14.How do you balance that in Brexit negotiations?
:03:15. > :03:17.On the one hand, wanting to keep UK close, as you've said.
:03:18. > :03:21.But on the other, wanting to ensure that others are put off leaving.
:03:22. > :03:26.I mean, could those negotiations not turn nasty?
:03:27. > :03:28.When it comes to negotiations, the European Union and
:03:29. > :03:34.the Commission, having been tasked with this negotiation,
:03:35. > :03:41.will negotiate in a friendly way, in a fair way, and we are not naive.
:03:42. > :03:55.Reflecting former commitments by the British Government
:03:56. > :04:01.There will be no sanctions, no punishment, nothing of that kind.
:04:02. > :04:04.But Britain has to know, and I suppose that the Government
:04:05. > :04:10.does know it, they have to honour the commitments,
:04:11. > :04:22.I was mentioning, years ago, it was 50-60 billion,
:04:23. > :04:34.We have to calculate scientifically what the British commitments were,
:04:35. > :04:41.You cannot leave like that as if you had never been a member
:04:42. > :04:45.Britain was a member of the European Union.
:04:46. > :04:50.Britain was taking on its shoulders the commitments.
:04:51. > :04:54.And these commitments have to be honoured.
:04:55. > :04:58.Again on Saturday, although the leaders will be
:04:59. > :05:00.meeting to celebrate, there's a lot of talk
:05:01. > :05:07.There are 4.5 million Europeans who are very nervous at the moment.
:05:08. > :05:11.3 million living in the UK, European citizens in the UK,
:05:12. > :05:15.1.5 British people living elsewhere in the European Union.
:05:16. > :05:19.Does that remain, like the British Government says,
:05:20. > :05:22.for the Commission, a priority to make sure that they
:05:23. > :05:35.The British did take in a sovereign way the decision they have taken.
:05:36. > :05:42.Women, men, workers, independent people, children.
:05:43. > :05:44.We don't have the right to eject them from our system.
:05:45. > :05:49.I shouldn't say that, this, as President Hollande wrote,
:05:50. > :06:00.I am strongly committed to preserve the rights of Europeans living
:06:01. > :06:03.in Britain and of the British people living on the European continent.
:06:04. > :06:11.This is about respecting human dignity.
:06:12. > :06:16.The next big challenge, if you like, in the calendar, once, you know,
:06:17. > :06:19.Article 50 has been officially triggered and everything -
:06:20. > :06:24.Will you be talking to President Hollande
:06:25. > :06:30.It could easily happen that I would talk with
:06:31. > :06:41.But I have to say that although in some corners
:06:42. > :06:46.of my imagination being very much concerned about the outcome of these
:06:47. > :06:50.elections, I have to say that we shouldn't consider elections
:06:51. > :06:58.The countries going for elections, France, Germany, as the Dutch did
:06:59. > :07:11.And so there is place, room, for a normal democratic debate,
:07:12. > :07:16.and so let's be confident in the wisdom of those
:07:17. > :07:22.And do you think a corner has been turned?
:07:23. > :07:25.At the end of last year I was hearing voices
:07:26. > :07:27.in this building saying, this could be the end of this
:07:28. > :07:32.project, we have so many challenges, look at rising populist nationalism.
:07:33. > :07:35.But you've had the Dutch elections, Macron is doing very well in France,
:07:36. > :07:43.Do you think Europe is being pulled into different directions -
:07:44. > :07:47.populist nationalism, and the other side very pro-EU?
:07:48. > :07:50.I do think that we have to make a clear distinction
:07:51. > :07:55.between populist, radical populism, those being against all the others,
:07:56. > :08:02.being only reflecting on their own destiny,
:08:03. > :08:09.I have huge understanding for those who have more questions than answers
:08:10. > :08:12.when it comes to the European Union, and we should respect that
:08:13. > :08:18.I don't like the extreme right parties, that's
:08:19. > :08:27.But talk, discussion, debating with those who are
:08:28. > :08:29.Eurosceptic because they have, as I said, more questions
:08:30. > :08:38.than answers, is something we should proactively engage with.
:08:39. > :08:40.Do you think there was enough from your side,
:08:41. > :08:42.from the European Union, engagement with the Eurosceptics
:08:43. > :08:46.in the United Kingdom before the referendum?
:08:47. > :08:48.I mean, you are a President of the Commission who does
:08:49. > :08:52.How will you feel on Wednesday when that letter of notification,
:08:53. > :08:58.that formal letter of notification, arrives here in Brussels?
:08:59. > :09:01.I will be sad, as I was sad when the vote, the referendum
:09:02. > :09:11.It is such a long, intense, interrelated history
:09:12. > :09:16.between the Continent and Britain, that I don't have an explanation
:09:17. > :09:18.for that, although I have particular puzzled explanations.
:09:19. > :09:25.But does it feel like a failure, President Juncker?
:09:26. > :09:36.What would be your words on the EU's 60th anniversary for the 52%
:09:37. > :09:41.of the UK who voted to leave, and the 48% who voted
:09:42. > :09:46.to stay and are now very worried about their future?
:09:47. > :09:59.And the fact that 48% of the British people were voting yes and the fact
:10:00. > :10:05.that 52% of the British were voting no should not lead us
:10:06. > :10:12.to the conclusion that Britain is definitely separated
:10:13. > :10:17.President Junker, thank you very, very much for your time.
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