:00:12. > :00:20.The political power base across Greater Manchester is shifting. For
:00:21. > :00:24.years we been saying in the northwest, London does not know
:00:25. > :00:31.best, we know best. This is our big chance. This is a region on the
:00:32. > :00:32.rise. The capital's closest economic competitor. Now a Metro mirror will
:00:33. > :00:47.be tasked with taking it forward. It needs to be someone who is very
:00:48. > :00:51.genuine about getting the job done. We need someone doing the work for
:00:52. > :00:57.real. Someone who understands Manchester and understands what the
:00:58. > :01:02.city has got. Taking the reins over social care and skills. The biggest
:01:03. > :01:05.issue is housing. But financially, the city of
:01:06. > :01:10.Manchester dominates. Prosperity and poverty remain near
:01:11. > :01:13.neighbours. North Manchester and South
:01:14. > :01:18.Manchester are completely different. Especially things like health care.
:01:19. > :01:23.Who do you want to put in charge on the 4th of May?
:01:24. > :01:26.If we blow it, we will regret it for a generation.
:01:27. > :01:32.Hello and welcome to media city in Salford tonight.
:01:33. > :01:34.Tonight we have seven of the eight candidates standing for mayor
:01:35. > :01:38.of Greater Manchester. So let me introduce you to them.
:01:39. > :01:41.We have Stephen Morris of the English Democrats.
:01:42. > :01:43.Will Patterson is the Green Party candidate.
:01:44. > :01:50.The Conservative candidate is Sean Anstee.
:01:51. > :01:54.Standing for Labour is Andy Burnham. Jane Brophy is for the Liberal
:01:55. > :02:04.Democrats, Ukip's candidate is Shneur Odze and Marcus Farmer
:02:05. > :02:08.is standing as an independent. Welcome to all of them.
:02:09. > :02:12.And Mohammad Aslam, another independent candidate unfortunately
:02:13. > :02:15.couldn't make it here this evening. You can get all the information
:02:16. > :02:19.you want on the candidates on the BBC website.
:02:20. > :02:21.That is BBC.co.uk/candidates. And you can follow
:02:22. > :02:32.the debate on Twitter using the hashtag #YourMayor.
:02:33. > :02:37.But let's cut on the night with the night's event and get our
:02:38. > :02:39.first question from Jack. This week, we have seen more
:02:40. > :02:42.pictures of people catatonic in Manchester after taking
:02:43. > :02:45.the drug Spice. With more cuts on the horizon,
:02:46. > :02:48.how would the police force under your leadership
:02:49. > :02:50.tackle the problem? Jane Brophy, Liberal
:02:51. > :02:52.Democrats, what would you do to tackle this problem?
:02:53. > :02:54.Firstly, Government policy has failed, hasn't it? We have made it a
:02:55. > :03:00.criminal offence. We need to take that time away from
:03:01. > :03:04.those people, because need to reach out to them and help them.
:03:05. > :03:06.Homelessness is a complex problem, we need to get the right services
:03:07. > :03:10.for people. It could be mental health problems,
:03:11. > :03:14.they could be domestic abuse, it could be financial difficulties, it
:03:15. > :03:16.could be all sorts of reasons why people are homeless.
:03:17. > :03:18.We need to reach out to them, provide them the right support for
:03:19. > :03:23.their drug and alcohol problems and make sure we decriminalized the use
:03:24. > :03:26.of Spice because it hasn't actually worked, has it, this Government
:03:27. > :03:31.policy where we make people into criminals when they actually need
:03:32. > :03:34.our help? That is a point, these so-called
:03:35. > :03:39.legal highs made illegal. Has that made the problem worse? No
:03:40. > :03:43.one should have to sleep on our streets at night cold and scared in
:03:44. > :03:45.Greater Manchester. It is important that it is not just
:03:46. > :03:51.the response of Greater Manchester Police but all agencies across
:03:52. > :03:53.Ridder Manchester to make sure that we get an deal with this issue once
:03:54. > :03:57.and for all. It is some of our most vulnerable
:03:58. > :04:00.people in a society, we don't stand idly by when that happens.
:04:01. > :04:03.That is what I would do as mayor, bring together all of our different
:04:04. > :04:06.agencies to say we can tackle this and we can make sure we support
:04:07. > :04:12.those who need our help the most. Stephen Morris, as mayor, you will
:04:13. > :04:14.be taking over the role of policing crime commissioner, Peter also went
:04:15. > :04:18.up to do this job with a lot of cuts.
:04:19. > :04:21.One of the things I've already said is that people have had ?5 extra put
:04:22. > :04:24.on the council tax. We have not seen where that has
:04:25. > :04:26.gone, we have not seen the allegation of police that we were
:04:27. > :04:29.told it would go to. My plan is to make sure that the 70
:04:30. > :04:33.police officers we were told we would get would put into a special
:04:34. > :04:38.task worst and each one will have the task force for a month.
:04:39. > :04:42.Going onto the gentleman's question, Greater Manchester has four councils
:04:43. > :04:47.in the top for the UK for drink and drug related issues.
:04:48. > :04:51.These are Labour councils. You can put council tax up, can't you? We
:04:52. > :04:54.are ready put an extra ?5 on the council tax for the extra police,
:04:55. > :04:58.we've not seen the men were not accountable. Get used to make sure
:04:59. > :05:04.the community says what their issues are, then we put this task force
:05:05. > :05:06.with 70 police officers into that area accommodate you with the issues
:05:07. > :05:10.and then the next Barack, they move on to.
:05:11. > :05:17.Actual accountability for what you pay and the police become
:05:18. > :05:21.accountable. Shneur Odze. It has been the police that do not
:05:22. > :05:25.have the resources to do with it. We are closing ten major police
:05:26. > :05:28.stations in Greater Manchester, so first and foremost, it shouldn't be
:05:29. > :05:33.for the police to mop up, because they are the agency of last resort.
:05:34. > :05:39.It is the failure of multi-agency approach which has unfortunately
:05:40. > :05:41.borne the brunt of the cuts. Very much, I don't believe in
:05:42. > :05:45.decriminalizing spice, I can't imagine that putting more drugs on
:05:46. > :05:49.the street will solve the problem, it would only make it worse. We need
:05:50. > :05:54.to help these people long before they get to this situation. Andy
:05:55. > :05:58.Burnham. It is a worrying situation. No one wants to see it.
:05:59. > :06:02.It is something we want to deal with an deal with straightaway. First and
:06:03. > :06:07.I would say, I would do two things. Protect the front line. Greater
:06:08. > :06:11.Manchester Police have had 2000. Please officers under this current
:06:12. > :06:14.Government. That can't carry on. They are in danger of being
:06:15. > :06:17.overwhelmed last weekend. I would protect the front line,
:06:18. > :06:21.neighbourhood policing and make sure there are no more cuts to police
:06:22. > :06:24.officers. I have a plan to do that, a costed plan, and a difficult
:06:25. > :06:28.decision has been made by the interim mayor this year to put more
:06:29. > :06:32.police on the front line. The second thing I would do is show leadership
:06:33. > :06:36.from the very start on tackling rough sleeping and homelessness. It
:06:37. > :06:40.isn't acceptable that so many of our fellow citizens are out there
:06:41. > :06:44.huddled in the doorways of Greater Manchester. What I have said is, I
:06:45. > :06:48.will commit 15% of my mayor 's salary on an ongoing basis to create
:06:49. > :06:53.a new mayor's fund to tackle rough sleeping and homelessness. I will do
:06:54. > :06:56.this because I want other people to contribute as well. We are saying,
:06:57. > :07:00.look, together, let's do something and show leadership from the front.
:07:01. > :07:02.Say, I am going to do this and then I will be in a position to ask
:07:03. > :07:05.others to do the same. The great thing about the people of
:07:06. > :07:09.Greater Manchester is there is a huge generosity there, they do not
:07:10. > :07:14.just walk ass people in the doorways, they want to help them.
:07:15. > :07:19.This is just gesturing politics. At the end of the day, it's not your
:07:20. > :07:25.ways, it's taxpayer money. Asked Andy if he will pledge to keep those
:07:26. > :07:28.ten police stations opened that he has mentioned, his Labour colleague
:07:29. > :07:34.is closing today. Will you keep that ten major police
:07:35. > :07:42.officers open? What is closing is the inquiry desk. I agree with you.
:07:43. > :07:48.I would put more resources... Would you pledge to keep them open? I
:07:49. > :07:50.would like to reopen them. The Greater Manchester Police has moved
:07:51. > :07:54.too far away from communities them I would want to make sure they have a
:07:55. > :08:00.strong presence... I know you mean well, but is that a pledge? Going
:08:01. > :08:04.back to the question. The question is about what we would do as mayor,
:08:05. > :08:07.we need to look at the evidence base, the policing has failed to
:08:08. > :08:11.tackle the problem, so we need to look at it again. Actually, Labour
:08:12. > :08:15.authorities in Greater Manchester have not fixed the problem. The Tory
:08:16. > :08:18.government is not fixed the problem. I am the change candidate here. We
:08:19. > :08:22.will look at changing the way we look at things like drugs.
:08:23. > :08:26.The evidence is, that is what has made the problem a lot worse. We
:08:27. > :08:29.need to look at what works in terms of policing. Criminalizing people
:08:30. > :08:37.for personal drug use is not a good use of police time. Let me bring you
:08:38. > :08:40.in on this. He for Christmas, I spent a night out on the streets
:08:41. > :08:47.with a good friend of mine who works with homeless people. I saw
:08:48. > :08:51.something that police don't see. I don't see why they don't see it.
:08:52. > :08:57.Homeless people seem to be spaced out somehow by about 150 yards from
:08:58. > :09:02.each other. That tells me one thing that
:09:03. > :09:05.somebody has actually sold these guys drugs. The money they are
:09:06. > :09:14.begging for, all of them, I think is going into somebody else's pocket.
:09:15. > :09:17.What would you do about it? I agree with Shneur Odze. We need to put
:09:18. > :09:19.more people on the street and get to grips with the problem.
:09:20. > :09:26.But that is money. Where would you get the money from? If you want
:09:27. > :09:33.services, you have to pay for them. The council tax would go up. Let me
:09:34. > :09:36.ask William. His that Sunday he would you? Ultimately, we have to
:09:37. > :09:40.keep our streets safe. If the price of that is an extra ?5 a year on
:09:41. > :09:45.council tax, that is a price worth paying for everybody in Manchester.
:09:46. > :09:51.We've are ready put forward the fact that we would bring in tobacco
:09:52. > :09:55.license tax, similar to alcohol, and anybody who needs to buy a lottery,
:09:56. > :09:58.you don't need a license to sell tobacco.
:09:59. > :10:04.We would bring that in. Before we get into racing council tax... Point
:10:05. > :10:08.of figure where it needs to be. The Government has been cutting Greater
:10:09. > :10:12.Manchester Police for seven years. You can't keep putting the front
:10:13. > :10:19.Greater Manchester Police, cutting them, and not expected to be
:10:20. > :10:22.problems. What Greater Manchester will need is a strong experienced
:10:23. > :10:26.voice that knows how to get hurt on the national stage to tell the
:10:27. > :10:35.Government that those cuts cannot carry on. Sean, go on.
:10:36. > :10:37.And he said as Shadow Home Secretary that the police could make
:10:38. > :10:40.efficiency savings. It is taxpayers As many as are of the opinion, say
:10:41. > :10:44."aye". To the contrary, "no". Money, that funds are police service. What
:10:45. > :10:53.we need to do is use the ability to bring those huge amount of money
:10:54. > :10:56.that is spent on money, support people off the street, but the
:10:57. > :11:00.images show is very distressing that there was much more we need to do. I
:11:01. > :11:06.want to make sure that we bring those agencies together. We need to
:11:07. > :11:10.get to the recalls of the problem. No point papering over the cracks
:11:11. > :11:12.here. Fundamentally different, that we can
:11:13. > :11:16.support people that need our help the most.
:11:17. > :11:19.You had your hand up. You are all talking about raising things for
:11:20. > :11:25.these things to be paid for. What about the massive reserves that
:11:26. > :11:28.all the local authorities have got? We are not running for Government.
:11:29. > :11:31.We are not running for local councils. We are running for local
:11:32. > :11:36.mayor. We're talking about how as mayor
:11:37. > :11:41.would help. That is why we do not want to do the council tax up higher
:11:42. > :11:46.than inflation and provide services, by talking to the Council. We need
:11:47. > :11:49.to sort this out long before the end of comatose on the street. It is
:11:50. > :11:54.about bringing in the NHS and councils to help them do their job
:11:55. > :11:59.that are important in the money it needs, which is why I wouldn't put
:12:00. > :12:06.these agencies under one umbrella. That is a recipe for more cuts. Many
:12:07. > :12:11.of the young man on the streets are actually ask forces people. It seems
:12:12. > :12:14.to me you need to go upstream as to why X forces people disconnect from
:12:15. > :12:26.society and the way that they do. as you might say where the problem
:12:27. > :12:30.is, rather than downstream. It is an important point. The question was
:12:31. > :12:35.about policing. These people need better mental Health Service. The
:12:36. > :12:39.gentleman is quite right. People who are coming out of the arms forces
:12:40. > :12:41.were not supported with the right mental health services. Mental
:12:42. > :12:45.health services across Greater Manchester were not resourced as
:12:46. > :12:50.much as they should be. As mayor, that is what we need to do. We need
:12:51. > :12:54.to make sure the services are there for our young people, homeless
:12:55. > :12:59.people, people who are expect any kind of abuse. That includes the
:13:00. > :13:02.homeless. That is often the recent why am it they have not had the
:13:03. > :13:07.mental health services they might've needed in the first place.
:13:08. > :13:11.I very much agree with what Jean has just said. I have spent time, like
:13:12. > :13:16.markets, out with the groups working with people and it is quite vocal to
:13:17. > :13:18.see the range of people that are there.
:13:19. > :13:26.X forces, very young people leaving care.
:13:27. > :13:31.We have the Government cutting housing benefits for 18-21
:13:32. > :13:33.-year-olds. We will not be a will to solve all of those cuts. They arise
:13:34. > :13:37.from Government decisions. We have got to do things different at a
:13:38. > :13:40.local level. That is what I'm proposing to do.
:13:41. > :13:43.Bring people together who want to solve this. Joe the Greater
:13:44. > :13:45.Manchester can do things better and differently and differently and that
:13:46. > :13:50.is what we have to do. But continuously say, this is the result
:13:51. > :13:51.of Tory government policies that is putting more and more people in the
:13:52. > :14:00.doorways of Greater Manchester. We are criminalising the wrong
:14:01. > :14:04.people, focusing on the vulnerable on the streets and frankly police
:14:05. > :14:08.forces need to be concentrated on the dealers, the people exploiting
:14:09. > :14:12.these fungal people and frankly the people who this dodgy government
:14:13. > :14:15.policy have criminalised, that policy has driven those people into
:14:16. > :14:22.the hands of the dealers in the first place. We keep looking at the
:14:23. > :14:24.blame game here, going back to the guy 's original question, we have
:14:25. > :14:28.already spoken to voluntary groups who were looking to go into these
:14:29. > :14:35.units, I have spoken to the British Legion. They do very good work with
:14:36. > :14:40.ex-forces, they are very keen on it because then they would have a place
:14:41. > :14:44.to concentrate ex-forces in one place at all of the organisations
:14:45. > :14:47.can work together. These readers are other parties are talking about
:14:48. > :14:53.getting stuff together, why haven't they done it all the -- already? It
:14:54. > :14:58.is a Conservative government... As a leader you have to take action and
:14:59. > :15:02.get people together and get it sorted, exactly what the gentleman
:15:03. > :15:05.was after. The way we do that is with a Conservative government that
:15:06. > :15:09.has worked with greater Manchester to give us the power to do things so
:15:10. > :15:16.differently in a way that we don't want to do opposition politics in
:15:17. > :15:23.Westminster, we want responsibility. I want is to be a greater Manchester
:15:24. > :15:26.where we are ambitious... I grew up in Partington and saw the welfare...
:15:27. > :15:34.I am asking a direct question. What about the cost to housing benefit
:15:35. > :15:41.for 18 to 24-year-olds and what to do to homelessness? We need to make
:15:42. > :15:45.sure people have the skills... We are going to move on to the second
:15:46. > :15:51.question which is from Charlie Allen. Charlie. Greater Manchester
:15:52. > :15:57.'s framework proposes building new houses on green belt land, should
:15:58. > :15:59.it? The framework for anyone who doesn't know is the greater
:16:00. > :16:07.Manchester long-term development plan. Marcus Farmer. Should we build
:16:08. > :16:14.on green belt? The clear answer to that is possibly yes. That will be
:16:15. > :16:20.very, very... Let me finish. What is happening in this, by building an
:16:21. > :16:25.aspect of the green belt is you give developers the chance to actually
:16:26. > :16:29.provide something important that is not there at the moment. Shoehorning
:16:30. > :16:34.stuff into Brownfield sites is not the answer. Go to my website, I'm
:16:35. > :16:40.doing a lot on this because I do believe that building on certain
:16:41. > :16:46.aspects of the green belt is a necessity for Manchester to provide
:16:47. > :16:53.quality. It is about quality. You would say definitely? I think we
:16:54. > :16:59.have to accept that if we have to go the way we are there to provide
:17:00. > :17:03.quality that is what we have to do. Will Patterson. The special
:17:04. > :17:08.framework is based on assumptions about population and economic growth
:17:09. > :17:10.made before Brexit so the assumptions underpinning the
:17:11. > :17:14.framework dodgy, they are based on the idea that the green belt would
:17:15. > :17:19.suddenly unlock land that would be available for social and affordable
:17:20. > :17:22.housing and does not factor that developers have not been meeting
:17:23. > :17:26.their obligations. That assumption is dodgy. It is based on the fact
:17:27. > :17:29.that the economic growth would be developed through this idea of
:17:30. > :17:33.compartmentalising the outer boroughs when in fact line one
:17:34. > :17:39.industries that are vulnerable to trends like automation, so that
:17:40. > :17:42.assumption is dodgy. Every piece of thinking underpinning the framework
:17:43. > :17:48.is completely dodgy and we need to start this again. You don't support
:17:49. > :17:51.the special framework? Not in this form. We need a plan that this is
:17:52. > :17:57.the wrong one and the wrong way. Jane Brophy. As may I would scrap
:17:58. > :18:01.the greater Manchester special framework because it does not
:18:02. > :18:05.deliver the affordable houses everyone needs, because the people
:18:06. > :18:08.around greater Manchester are protesting because they want to keep
:18:09. > :18:12.the green belt, we have not consulted the local people properly,
:18:13. > :18:16.you can't have a beer coming to power when all those people are
:18:17. > :18:20.unhappy with the greater Manchester special framework. We need to scrap
:18:21. > :18:25.it because it does not work. It has to be agreed by the leaders of all
:18:26. > :18:30.ten authorities and combined authority and the mayor so you're
:18:31. > :18:33.already at loggerheads argue? Have not consulted local people and it
:18:34. > :18:36.needs local decision-making and as a Liberal Democrat that's what we
:18:37. > :18:39.believe in, local people should decide about where building takes
:18:40. > :18:46.place in the land. There are Brownfield sites... The have any in
:18:47. > :18:49.mind? Greater Manchester is not a particularly dense area, there are
:18:50. > :18:52.plenty of places in the city where we can grow and build housing and we
:18:53. > :18:56.need to make sure we build where you have the infrastructure, welding on
:18:57. > :18:59.green belt does not store the infrastructure and make things worse
:19:00. > :19:03.in terms of abolition and people will get in their cars and make the
:19:04. > :19:07.already polluted city of greater Manchester worse so I need to make
:19:08. > :19:11.sure we build the houses where it produces the problem. I will ask the
:19:12. > :19:17.gentleman in the pink tie to make a comment. I think the whole idea of
:19:18. > :19:21.the special framework as I understood it was that it devolved
:19:22. > :19:24.power to the regions to the benefits of the residents. If you start
:19:25. > :19:28.building as a first choice on green belt then you're not going to do
:19:29. > :19:31.that, you're actually giving the benefit to the builders, it is
:19:32. > :19:36.cheaper to build on green belt when you can take from the start. There's
:19:37. > :19:42.a lot of expense involved in removing old buildings or whatever
:19:43. > :19:45.it is that happens to be redeveloping the site. As the
:19:46. > :19:54.candidate just said, the communities together and do not disperse them.
:19:55. > :19:59.You build the infrastructure there. You are right, must be Brownfield
:20:00. > :20:05.first because if you open up green belt there is no incentive to go to
:20:06. > :20:11.other places. The problem is it has been to develop and lead to this
:20:12. > :20:14.point. I would protect green space and shift the balance towards
:20:15. > :20:19.revitalising the town centres of greater Manchester and build high
:20:20. > :20:21.density housing there. But Jane I am afraid I don't agree with either
:20:22. > :20:26.because if you just scrap it then you have no plan and then you have a
:20:27. > :20:31.free final for developers and big whenever they want so you need a
:20:32. > :20:34.plan. I could not agree more with the audience member which is why I
:20:35. > :20:37.am proud to say you get the first people to commit against the special
:20:38. > :20:42.framework because we sought was agenda let's not either housing
:20:43. > :20:47.developers, as a fellow candidate member -- mating, the numbers are
:20:48. > :20:51.even worse now. We also need honest politics from the panel. If
:20:52. > :20:54.candidates will advocate open door migration that we have to build more
:20:55. > :20:59.housing and it will not be enough Brownfield sites to build on. Which
:21:00. > :21:01.is why Brexit affords us the opportunity to build on Brownfield
:21:02. > :21:07.but also control the level of migration we have so you can see you
:21:08. > :21:14.want open door migration and protect the green belt. The important point
:21:15. > :21:17.is that it's a housing crisis in greater Manchester and we have just
:21:18. > :21:21.stopped about homelessness, we are not building upholds and we need to
:21:22. > :21:28.make sure we get the right types of homes for people in a city region.
:21:29. > :21:33.And to you now, without a plan not a single blade of grass is free from
:21:34. > :21:38.the risk of speculative planning development and application. One of
:21:39. > :21:42.the time. What that means as we are seeing that we do not want to
:21:43. > :21:47.control the development is. I don't think that is right. I want offers
:21:48. > :21:54.great protection of databases as I can. By Blackie -- by backing the
:21:55. > :22:04.plan your opening are put up green belt. We do need a plan. So we do
:22:05. > :22:14.need a plan but we need to plan so that local people can decide because
:22:15. > :22:18.we have wasted... Or scrapping it? Andy Burnham you're not scrapping it
:22:19. > :22:24.you're rewriting it? Market share in favour? Truly as a business person I
:22:25. > :22:30.can't believe it has not been communicated at all to any
:22:31. > :22:36.businesses because we are effectively... Lets you from a
:22:37. > :22:40.member of the audience. I am astounded at some of this panel,
:22:41. > :22:43.especially Andy Burnham because you are at loggerheads with your
:22:44. > :22:49.9-member councils around here because the main Labour councils
:22:50. > :22:53.actually put the special framework together and tested an immense
:22:54. > :22:58.amount of work on this. You're against your own party. Let me ask
:22:59. > :23:02.you a question directly, if you like likely as may I will be my own man
:23:03. > :23:04.and I will do what I think is right for greater Manchester and I will
:23:05. > :23:08.show leadership on an issue as important as this. We don't want to
:23:09. > :23:12.build alongside the main roads with cars on the road, I will listen to
:23:13. > :23:15.people and I will bring forward a plan that carries people with it.
:23:16. > :23:21.That is the leadership I will show as mayor. We don't want this to be
:23:22. > :23:27.led by both parties, we want what is right for the people. We would vote
:23:28. > :23:31.on a party basis. Can get this back to the question, in terms of
:23:32. > :23:34.protecting the green belt, there is the assertion that the framework
:23:35. > :23:38.will protect the green belt by hiving off some of it. I think that
:23:39. > :23:41.is another dodgy assumption on the part of a special framework because
:23:42. > :23:45.we have seen in the local plans that the individual virus of the doubt
:23:46. > :23:50.that is not protected, it is not limiting house-building. You are
:23:51. > :23:56.conceding the plan. You conceding the point of building on the green
:23:57. > :23:59.belt. If you look at what I have done in the bar I run, we are
:24:00. > :24:06.bringing forward a film it on Brownfield sites. If you look at
:24:07. > :24:13.Wigan... We are using compulsory purchase orders to get loving
:24:14. > :24:17.kick-started. The gentleman at the end. And duties for the candidate
:24:18. > :24:20.who wants to scrap the plan, how will you stop the developers from
:24:21. > :24:25.putting speculative applications in well you build a new plan? It has
:24:26. > :24:29.taken years to build. By having a Democratic widely consulted
:24:30. > :24:35.congruence special plan that involves communities and has led at
:24:36. > :24:38.a grassroots level... However long it takes, because at what price
:24:39. > :24:42.democracy? If you allow a plan driven by agendas by the
:24:43. > :24:46.house-builders, that you will end up with is then concreting over the
:24:47. > :24:51.cheapest most affordable but for them. We need to protect the green
:24:52. > :24:56.belt. I would rather listen to the people, start again and having one
:24:57. > :25:04.that works. As it takes 6-9 months then so be it. This has taken years,
:25:05. > :25:07.not 6-9 months. There has been a lot of talk about democracy and
:25:08. > :25:10.consulting the people and I have seen it happen in my local area and
:25:11. > :25:16.the greenfield area, they will move on to someone else. You will consult
:25:17. > :25:19.communities and ask if they want build on the green belt and they say
:25:20. > :25:25.now in the aftermath of another and they will be at loggerheads. You
:25:26. > :25:32.have to show leadership. Where does it end? The question is what type of
:25:33. > :25:35.homes in rebuilding? Our aim should be to solve the housing crisis and
:25:36. > :25:40.that will not be done by building big executive homes in these matters
:25:41. > :25:43.road or the other main roads across greater Manchester, because they
:25:44. > :25:48.would be affordable to people. This planet needs to be rebalanced
:25:49. > :25:51.towards revitalising our town centres by building higher density
:25:52. > :25:56.residential development there. More affordable to young people, bring
:25:57. > :26:00.young people into those places, have more council housing as part of the
:26:01. > :26:03.plan. That is what I think we need. Housing policy for greater
:26:04. > :26:06.Manchester that solve the housing crisis and sadly in recent times we
:26:07. > :26:13.have been too focused on luxury flat in the city centre and large
:26:14. > :26:17.executive homes on the big roads. You have answered that I was more to
:26:18. > :26:22.the people who are saying ask everyone. I run an environmental
:26:23. > :26:26.social enterprise and for the last two years it has been very clear to
:26:27. > :26:28.me that the environment is not a priority for the government. We have
:26:29. > :26:38.talked about a number of issues here. But how would you reprioritise
:26:39. > :26:40.the environment? That encompasses the code for sustainable homes in
:26:41. > :26:44.terrace of building homes that are fit for the future and been
:26:45. > :26:51.retrofitted with solar PV and things in the future. How will you
:26:52. > :26:53.reprioritise? The problem is the definition of green belt, some
:26:54. > :26:58.scruffy land and some really beautiful outstanding scenery.
:26:59. > :27:02.Unfortunately I have been a developer in the past, it is very
:27:03. > :27:05.difficult to shoehorn development into Brownfield sites and
:27:06. > :27:10.unfortunately Andy I don't think you'll find anybody in the league
:27:11. > :27:16.will flow a lot of money at its two retrofitted, you will not find them.
:27:17. > :27:20.Why do you see that? We have an old Mullah Fazlullah redeveloped. Why
:27:21. > :27:27.are you talking daringly? Nobody is talking daringly. But there the
:27:28. > :27:33.Golden Triangle, Andy. The lady asked about environmental policy. I
:27:34. > :27:35.think those are what advice because the greater Manchester mayor has a
:27:36. > :27:40.huge as possibility to our environment. We have -- we are
:27:41. > :27:43.seeing huge amount of air pollution and your policy to protect us from
:27:44. > :27:49.climate change. How do you dead balance the deed to
:27:50. > :27:54.protect the environment and the need to help the people who do not have
:27:55. > :27:58.affordable homes? The two things go together hand in hand, if you build
:27:59. > :28:04.the affordable homes and get them clean as the lady said... But not an
:28:05. > :28:08.green belt. Building on the green belt damages the environment because
:28:09. > :28:12.you have to travel in your car is to have the transport infrastructure is
:28:13. > :28:16.key here, transport needs to be fixed in greater Manchester and as
:28:17. > :28:23.mayor we will have major role in doing that. There is a much more the
:28:24. > :28:30.government can do to unlock Brownfield sites. Very quickly shone
:28:31. > :28:33.and then Stephen. It was a Conservative government that
:28:34. > :28:36.announced a 2.3 billion pound infrastructure projects to get
:28:37. > :28:40.Brownfield site unlock and ready for development. I will make sure we get
:28:41. > :28:44.our fair share of that funding so we can do these things but you can only
:28:45. > :28:47.plan for growth, even can only plan for infrastructure and transport and
:28:48. > :28:52.health facilities. For too long we have avoided this issue. Is it any
:28:53. > :28:55.wonder communities get development where they don't want it? We say we
:28:56. > :29:00.don't want control and that is not good enough for me in greater
:29:01. > :29:03.Manchester. I don't want is to be like London or Bristol v job after
:29:04. > :29:06.you have a shower that lasts all day. Where you don't plan for the
:29:07. > :29:14.great population because if you do that the inequality will be -- her
:29:15. > :29:17.quality will be less. Greater Manchester is the worst area in the
:29:18. > :29:23.UK for renewable energy and adversity. And our plan we will have
:29:24. > :29:27.in the planning new property will have to solar panels and industrial
:29:28. > :29:31.estates will need many wind farms should bring it back and rather than
:29:32. > :29:34.just putting them in the countryside. This is a
:29:35. > :29:36.Labour-controlled greater Manchester and we have the worst renewable
:29:37. > :29:47.energy in the UK. We are going to move on. But if you
:29:48. > :29:52.want to join in at any time, you can join in using our hashtag and you
:29:53. > :29:57.can find out about our candidates on our BBC website. But let's get our
:29:58. > :30:01.third question now. Hill how will candidates ensure that all ten
:30:02. > :30:10.boroughs of Greater Manchester will benefit, not just the city of
:30:11. > :30:15.Manchester? How will you ensure that all boroughs will benefit, not just
:30:16. > :30:18.the city of Manchester? We need to make sure that the
:30:19. > :30:22.Metrolink network actually reaches all ten boroughs and I am opposing
:30:23. > :30:25.an outer circle that will connect the lines that are currently moving
:30:26. > :30:31.out of Manchester, connect them up with each other. Will you have any
:30:32. > :30:35.powers over the Metrolink? This is something that we can propose to get
:30:36. > :30:39.that investment, building the consensus. The will for this to
:30:40. > :30:45.happen is there. I went to help steer it and make sure it does
:30:46. > :30:50.happen. Plans over the economy and spatial framer comes into this as
:30:51. > :30:54.well, it's too heavily focused on building a high-powered jobs in the
:30:55. > :31:01.city centre and places like Salford Quays, here at Media City. We need
:31:02. > :31:05.to get white-collar jobs, technology jobs, rolled out across the ten
:31:06. > :31:09.boroughs and make sure we are not compartmentalized in our economy so
:31:10. > :31:15.that individual communities are reliant on just one industry. I grew
:31:16. > :31:18.up in a mining community. I know what happens when you take away the
:31:19. > :31:25.industry that your community relies on. It destroys everyone's hope,
:31:26. > :31:28.everyone's prospects. We need to make sure that there was a diverse
:31:29. > :31:34.range of economies across all ten boroughs. How do you redress it when
:31:35. > :31:39.you have more jobs created in the south of the region of Greater
:31:40. > :31:43.Manchester? Then in the North? This is a position for all of Greater
:31:44. > :31:46.Manchester. I think too much of the focus has been on the city of
:31:47. > :31:54.Manchester for too long. It starts with the signing of a lease in the
:31:55. > :31:59.Greater Manchester. How are we going to attract major companies to park
:32:00. > :32:04.themselves... Where would you have your office? I have no preference as
:32:05. > :32:09.to whether it is back in Wigan or Bolton, because that is where I want
:32:10. > :32:12.are great companies across the road to invest in. If we don't have the
:32:13. > :32:16.transport links and other services and housing and everything else that
:32:17. > :32:21.comes with it, that the mayor can function from one of our great
:32:22. > :32:26.boroughs, how can we lead by example? A transport system that is
:32:27. > :32:34.properly integrated, affordable, goes to her ten boroughs, but is
:32:35. > :32:38.very much leading by example. You have got the ideas about building
:32:39. > :32:42.transport, we need the Metrolink, we need to get that right on trains and
:32:43. > :32:46.buses, our cycling routes and walking routes need to be right as
:32:47. > :32:50.well. But it's more than that. We have a north and south divide in
:32:51. > :32:53.Greater Manchester. I am concerned about this. I have worked all the
:32:54. > :32:57.way across Greater Manchester in public health services than we have
:32:58. > :33:00.a big health divide. We have about a ten year gap between people of the
:33:01. > :33:04.North and other parts of the South in terms of life expectancy. That is
:33:05. > :33:11.something the mayor can start to address, because that is something
:33:12. > :33:14.that we can address, health, transport, looking at housing, look
:33:15. > :33:18.at the environment that people grow up in. Those are the things that
:33:19. > :33:21.will make a difference to everyone's prosperity and well-being. That is
:33:22. > :33:29.what I want as Greater Manchester Mayor, to reach across all of
:33:30. > :33:33.Manchester. Only three of the boroughs have been mentioned out of
:33:34. > :33:39.ten in this entire debate so far, so that for me is very indicative of
:33:40. > :33:45.something being on this. You from? Actually, I'm from Wales. But I live
:33:46. > :33:50.in the city centre as well. But that's not the point. I'm also
:33:51. > :33:54.concerned that every candidate may well want to talk about grassroots
:33:55. > :33:58.etc., but this is been a top-down process from the beginning. This was
:33:59. > :34:01.stitched up between the Conservatives and the Labour
:34:02. > :34:06.colleagues, imposing it on us without any consultation. We had an
:34:07. > :34:10.interim mayor voted by no one, so we have to judge by the deeds so far,
:34:11. > :34:15.very top-down and I am not confident thus far that it will be very
:34:16. > :34:18.different, I am afraid to say. It can only be different if we use the
:34:19. > :34:22.powers that are coming to Greater Manchester to say that all parts of
:34:23. > :34:27.the city region can prosper. It is not just about the structure we can
:34:28. > :34:31.see, transport, health, facilities and so on. It is also the
:34:32. > :34:35.infrastructure that we cannot say, broadband and infrastructure and so
:34:36. > :34:40.on. Unless we do that, we will see a concentration. The point to remember
:34:41. > :34:42.is that not a single part of Greater Manchester outperforms the UK
:34:43. > :34:45.average for the economy. I want to make sure we get the right skills,
:34:46. > :34:49.investment jobs, investment in transport, because if we do all of
:34:50. > :35:00.those things, we can make sure we do not just redistribute wealth, but we
:35:01. > :35:03.grow the wealth of Greater Manchester. That is got to be one of
:35:04. > :35:06.the first priorities of our mayor in May, to say that, if you want to do
:35:07. > :35:08.something so perfectly different with the decisions that are coming
:35:09. > :35:10.here, you need to elect somebody that helps write those devolution
:35:11. > :35:12.agreements. We need to get the collaboration with all parts Greater
:35:13. > :35:20.Manchester and do something that sets all parts of Greater Manchester
:35:21. > :35:24.can benefit. While we talk about sustainability, an issue that hasn't
:35:25. > :35:28.been mentioned is the ?7 billion NHS budget that the mayor would be
:35:29. > :35:32.responsible for the. How would we make sure that they resist
:35:33. > :35:36.sustainable NHS workforce and Greater Manchester? We will come
:35:37. > :35:42.back to that point, we will, to the NHS and bit. Well, you said on your
:35:43. > :35:46.manifesto online that you want to create a Silicon Valley. How you do
:35:47. > :35:51.that? We will make sure the people invest in this area. We want all new
:35:52. > :35:56.property to have solar panels, wind farms, we do not want to buy wind
:35:57. > :36:00.farms from China, wind turbines from Germany, we want to become the hub
:36:01. > :36:05.of technology, new technology. That is why we want to bring people in.
:36:06. > :36:08.Going back to quite a few questions with the gentleman on the transport
:36:09. > :36:12.issue with things like the Metrolink, it's not just a case of
:36:13. > :36:16.let's have this system, you got to have the right system. Anyone who
:36:17. > :36:20.travels from Rochdale to Manchester knows it takes twice as long now on
:36:21. > :36:25.the tram than ever did on the train. It is not a fast rapid transport
:36:26. > :36:29.system that you need to get people about the city. You need a proper
:36:30. > :36:34.system, not just another system. It's an important question.
:36:35. > :36:39.Reference, negative reference made to Labour, let me remind everybody
:36:40. > :36:44.that Labour led Greater Manchester this facility, it is put us in a
:36:45. > :36:46.position where we are at the head of the rest of the country with a
:36:47. > :36:54.devolution deal that is better than anywhere else. We are in a strong
:36:55. > :36:59.position. What we've got to do for the next 20 years is apply the same
:37:00. > :37:07.ambition to the outlying boroughs as has been applied to the city centre
:37:08. > :37:12.in present times. One second, Steven. We need to bring jobs of the
:37:13. > :37:16.future, jobs in digital, renewable energy, in all of those areas that
:37:17. > :37:20.will bring future prosperity. That is a plan to Greater Manchester
:37:21. > :37:25.needs for the future. It needs to be an ambitious plan, making sure all
:37:26. > :37:28.parts of Greater Manchester moves forward. This is our opportunity to
:37:29. > :37:32.do something very different, we need a mirror that can not only work with
:37:33. > :37:35.Council leaders across Greater Manchester, but also stand up and
:37:36. > :37:42.work with Government ministers at the same time. I am uniquely placed
:37:43. > :37:47.to do that. Surely you need to have a knowledge of the NHS of your going
:37:48. > :37:51.to try and run it. I have some of the best social care services we are
:37:52. > :37:54.going to move on. We're going to move onto the next question, because
:37:55. > :38:06.you have been bringing this up in the last question and this one is
:38:07. > :38:09.from Sasha. Will the candidates endorse a 24-hour public transport
:38:10. > :38:16.across Greater Manchester if it is deemed a demand for it? This
:38:17. > :38:21.surrounds the new power enabling possibly a London style transport
:38:22. > :38:24.network. Jane, you first. Actually, we do need to move towards a London
:38:25. > :38:28.style transport network. They do things a lot better there. We need
:38:29. > :38:32.to get people out of their cars. If the public transport system is good,
:38:33. > :38:36.we can have 24 hours, why not? We need to dream about how we run our
:38:37. > :38:39.transport, have new idea is, when we are moving towards new technology,
:38:40. > :38:45.it's mentioned quite a lot. Driverless cars, we need to dream
:38:46. > :38:49.big and make sure we have that circular Metrolink, trams, buses,
:38:50. > :38:55.trains. But you will not have any power over this as mayor. I would be
:38:56. > :39:01.as mayor shouting from the rooftop to say, we need funding to get the
:39:02. > :39:04.Metrolink running. London has the congestion charge, doesn't it? Sean
:39:05. > :39:10.Anstee, would you bring in a congestion charge to fund public
:39:11. > :39:14.transport? I have said, would Greater Manchester voted in 2008 and
:39:15. > :39:18.gave a clear view on the congestion charge, that is my view today. The
:39:19. > :39:22.short answer to the question is yes, if they could be proven. The second
:39:23. > :39:25.part of that is we are going to be making those decisions and Greater
:39:26. > :39:29.Manchester, so we will not be asking anybody else to take those decisions
:39:30. > :39:34.for us. We will take those decisions here. You keep on saying the mayor
:39:35. > :39:40.will not be responsible for transport, they will be. They're
:39:41. > :39:43.going to be responsible for the bus through regulation. We've got to
:39:44. > :39:47.make sure we integrate public transport across Greater Manchester
:39:48. > :39:50.and make sure it's being used, safety using Greater Manchester. I
:39:51. > :39:54.have said in my manifesto that I will make sure we put resources into
:39:55. > :39:57.making sure that the Metrolink and buses are safe to use at night,
:39:58. > :40:01.because that is how we get people comfortable with public to work
:40:02. > :40:06.across Greater Manchester. What is your view on this, Will Patterson? I
:40:07. > :40:10.want to see a 24-hour public transfer system. I want people to be
:40:11. > :40:15.able to use public transport whenever and wherever they needed,
:40:16. > :40:20.particularly as we move away from a 9-5 society, more of a 24-7 society.
:40:21. > :40:25.We need to absolutely learn from what has in London to make sure we
:40:26. > :40:29.avoid the approach that transport for London had with the unions, to
:40:30. > :40:34.make sure we actually get a sensible deal there to make this workable.
:40:35. > :40:39.The lady here on the back row. I would like to ask the candidates if
:40:40. > :40:43.they think the night-time economy is vital in Greater Manchester and how,
:40:44. > :40:53.what they would use to support that based on the transportation... As in
:40:54. > :40:56.bars and restaurants? Yes. Do you have a particular interest? We are
:40:57. > :40:59.talking about the transport network and giving people greater movement
:41:00. > :41:03.around Greater Manchester, that would benefit a lot of people, bars
:41:04. > :41:07.and restaurant and club owners. I want to know your thoughts on the
:41:08. > :41:11.night-time economy Lee in Manchester? If you are not in the
:41:12. > :41:16.city centre, if you need to travel out of the if city centre, it's
:41:17. > :41:19.quite difficult. If you're at a gig and you lived outside of the city,
:41:20. > :41:24.you might have to leave that concert early. What would you do to help
:41:25. > :41:29.people who live outside of the city centre? It is not just about the
:41:30. > :41:35.service sector, its public service who work in the NHS, great public
:41:36. > :41:40.sectors you do not work 9-5. We need to give them more autonomy of a
:41:41. > :41:49.Publix transport system that actually works and is affordable. --
:41:50. > :41:52.public. Until the day we have to be friendly flying self driving car, I
:41:53. > :41:57.welcome that day, most people rely on their cars to get to work. These
:41:58. > :42:04.are a lot of lower income workers. I fear, after a two with another
:42:05. > :42:14.candidate. Another way of taxing the motorists, more bus lanes, we need a
:42:15. > :42:18.transport network... Had you think we will be paying for the gas
:42:19. > :42:24.guzzling cars? The omissions? They are relying on that to get to work.
:42:25. > :42:27.The people in gas guzzlers love the congestion charge in London because
:42:28. > :42:31.it gets them to their offices quicker. It is low income workers,
:42:32. > :42:36.they will pay for the congestion charge. There was a different
:42:37. > :42:43.between the congestion zone and the omissions on. That will focus on the
:42:44. > :42:47.top polluters. Will is making some good points here, we need to make
:42:48. > :42:51.sure below are images, and electric cars of the future, aren't they?
:42:52. > :42:55.People will drive, plug them in. I just got one myself, I've been going
:42:56. > :43:00.around Greater Manchester setting where are the charging points are.
:43:01. > :43:04.It was absolutely an affordable range. What is the Greater
:43:05. > :43:08.Manchester mayor good to do about that? What we can do is recognise
:43:09. > :43:12.that that is the future and we plan for the future. Greater Manchester,
:43:13. > :43:15.what are the biggest concerns of young peeper is climate change. I've
:43:16. > :43:19.got three children and I think we need to look up what us older
:43:20. > :43:23.politicians are doing because actually young people are very, very
:43:24. > :43:26.concerned about climate change, the future, how it impacts on Greater
:43:27. > :43:29.Manchester. Look at the weather patterns change it, how we are
:43:30. > :43:33.getting more flooding. Young people are terrified of what might happen.
:43:34. > :43:41.And Greater Manchester, we can make a start... Let Andy Burnham
:43:42. > :43:47.comeback. There's lots of concerns. Climate change is a very big one.
:43:48. > :43:50.Another one... Probably a more immediate one is the cost for young
:43:51. > :43:55.people to travel around Greater Manchester. It is far too high. Much
:43:56. > :43:58.higher than London, actually. I am the only candidate who said I would
:43:59. > :44:07.back young people, put them first in my manifesto and give them all 16-
:44:08. > :44:12.18 euros a free bus pass. Going forward, we need the London style
:44:13. > :44:15.system. Later in Metrolink of buses, absolutely. The gentleman at the end
:44:16. > :44:25.here has had his hand up for ages. Will the candidates support having a
:44:26. > :44:33.night-time champion? Yes as long as they are actually promoting
:44:34. > :44:39.everything. Will Patterson? Simply yes I support the night-time economy
:44:40. > :44:45.across the borough is, I also support making sure we have houses
:44:46. > :44:48.with access to that made him economy and what we have not talked about is
:44:49. > :44:53.making access will to the disabled. It is a scandal that the metal in
:44:54. > :45:01.the lists are turned off before the services have stopped. Would anybody
:45:02. > :45:06.not support the 19th? And sceptical, in London the Windermere with a
:45:07. > :45:12.dodgy self employment contract and will it lead, I am all in favour of
:45:13. > :45:14.arts and culture but just focus on the naked city centre time as there
:45:15. > :45:24.has been in London. We will move our next question from
:45:25. > :45:28.Mohammed and then. Ellen Richter Manchester has a devolved NHS budget
:45:29. > :45:31.and already has its own local care budget, with your power is what will
:45:32. > :45:38.you do to solve the crisis in social care? I think having devolved powers
:45:39. > :45:42.is one of the ways we solve difficult challenges for our
:45:43. > :45:47.services. I read a council in greater Manchester that has
:45:48. > :45:52.independently inspected children's services that are the joint- the
:45:53. > :45:55.country. We have invested more money into social care in my borough and I
:45:56. > :45:59.want to make sure that as we implement these powers that we
:46:00. > :46:03.understand them because it is about the mayor doing this in partnership
:46:04. > :46:08.with each authority in the voluntary sector. We have to make sure that if
:46:09. > :46:12.we are going to do something so profoundly different in May and
:46:13. > :46:15.beyond that making sure that the well-being of our population is at
:46:16. > :46:19.the heart of what we do means that having these powers in the first
:46:20. > :46:23.place will enable us to do that and at the point I do need to make is
:46:24. > :46:26.that I helped to write that agreements to get these powers yet
:46:27. > :46:32.greater Manchester, I did not campaign against them as and the
:46:33. > :46:35.dead. It is important that we have someone in May and will continue to
:46:36. > :46:39.stand up for the well-being of our population and ensure everybody here
:46:40. > :46:43.feels like they are being supported. Andy Burnham Duro worried it would
:46:44. > :46:48.create a 2-tier NHS system. I still have concerns because if you have a
:46:49. > :46:52.mayor who believe in the privatisation of the NHS they could
:46:53. > :46:56.crack on and do that. I have my concerns, which is why you need a
:46:57. > :47:04.mayor who is as passionate about the NHS and everything it stands for as
:47:05. > :47:09.I am. If I could just answer... You got any policy to privatise a
:47:10. > :47:14.hospital. On social care I have long warned that if you cut social care
:47:15. > :47:19.it will in the end crackdown National Health Service and that is
:47:20. > :47:22.is happening before our eyes. The accident and emergency crisis in
:47:23. > :47:26.greater Manchester is the product of deep cuts to social care and it is
:47:27. > :47:33.getting worse and worse all the time. Never mind 15 minute visit,
:47:34. > :47:36.there are two minute visits because the social care system is cut to the
:47:37. > :47:41.bone. So what is my plan to deal with this? I have long said bring
:47:42. > :47:44.these systems completely together, you cannot carry on in the
:47:45. > :47:50.21st-century seeing the council does this in the NHS does that. You carry
:47:51. > :47:54.-- you cannot carry on cutting care in the home because you leave people
:47:55. > :47:57.trapped in hospital for weeks. Bring the funding together and create a
:47:58. > :48:02.new incentive to support people properly in their own homes with a
:48:03. > :48:06.multidisciplinary team around them, high-quality care in the home, get
:48:07. > :48:11.rid of the broken 15 minute visits culture with staff on zero-hour
:48:12. > :48:15.contracts, invest in the staff to provide preventative good-quality
:48:16. > :48:18.home care with a single system, a national health care service. I want
:48:19. > :48:23.to pioneer that here in greater Manchester.
:48:24. > :48:28.APPLAUSE What greater Manchester needs is a
:48:29. > :48:33.mayor who understands the NHS from the inside out. I have worked in the
:48:34. > :48:36.NHS on my life, I understand it from the inside and they also understand
:48:37. > :48:40.from the Keller 's perspective as well so what we need to do is fixed
:48:41. > :48:44.at broken system because actually social care does need more funding,
:48:45. > :48:49.we need to look at mental health and the voluntary sector and make sure
:48:50. > :48:54.that we properly fix the system in a way that it takes the NHS out of
:48:55. > :48:58.politics. For too long the NHS has been a political football and what
:48:59. > :49:02.we need is all-party commissions. My party has proposed is, it has been
:49:03. > :49:05.rejected by Labour and the Tories but we want to bring everyone
:49:06. > :49:14.together around the table in greater Manchester to fix the problem. Let
:49:15. > :49:20.Marcus come in. I agree with Jane, we're in a situation where the call
:49:21. > :49:24.emphasis of the NHS has to be taken out of the political sphere and is
:49:25. > :49:29.made of Manchester I would want to appoint people who know what they're
:49:30. > :49:32.talking about, I know Andy, he will tell you have done this that and the
:49:33. > :49:39.other but the point of the matter is he now says much about the health
:49:40. > :49:48.service as I do. On what basis are you saying that? QWERTY want me to
:49:49. > :49:55.start? As may you one person. What you have to do is appoint people
:49:56. > :50:00.have the skills and know what they're doing, and I have to
:50:01. > :50:03.honestly stand here is the potential mayor of Manchester and say aye am
:50:04. > :50:10.not the guy to sort out the NHS, and I don't think any of these people
:50:11. > :50:16.are. You can sort out the NHS, Andy. It does not give people might hope
:50:17. > :50:20.that all. Before we get distracted... We need people who
:50:21. > :50:29.know what they're talking about like Jane. You would be people around
:50:30. > :50:32.you, advisers? Absolutely. I'm a practising GP from Oldham, my
:50:33. > :50:41.daughter who was born in all them ask me why do I have, why would I
:50:42. > :50:44.leave less than my cousin who was born in Trafford Brown what as you
:50:45. > :50:48.will tackle that issue and I also want to know when she asks me why my
:50:49. > :50:55.grandmother when she goes into a care home gets different assistance
:50:56. > :51:01.from others and that will only be possible if you have the right
:51:02. > :51:04.workforce in greater Manchester. Doctors and nurses are the people
:51:05. > :51:11.who have been trained by taxpayer money, what will you do to retain
:51:12. > :51:17.them? How will you keep those staff? This is why I want to keep social
:51:18. > :51:20.care buckle and why I will not bring it under one umbrella. I am not
:51:21. > :51:25.comfortable with outsourcing social care to private companies. It could
:51:26. > :51:29.be more cost-effective but it will not be to the long-term benefit of
:51:30. > :51:34.the users or taxpayer. And furthermore I think it is more
:51:35. > :51:37.accountable, the councils and other agencies and charities to bring it
:51:38. > :51:44.closer to home. To do it far better. Fundamentally you're right. The
:51:45. > :51:48.government has a responsibility and not the means to provide the
:51:49. > :51:52.services. One thing I want to do is rely on experts and think tanks in
:51:53. > :51:56.London, I will hire professionals who work you locally because they
:51:57. > :52:04.know better how to provide care. For too long we have relied on external
:52:05. > :52:06.professionals. It has been a Conservative government that is
:52:07. > :52:10.given as the power to resolve these issues we're told me about, provided
:52:11. > :52:14.a half billion pound transformation fund and we can get care back into
:52:15. > :52:17.the game in 80 and has given us the power to say that not only can we
:52:18. > :52:21.integrate health and social care what we can get it to focus on the
:52:22. > :52:27.things that matter to people across greater Manchester. Is mental health
:52:28. > :52:31.on the party needs to be? Can we ensure we get greater value out of
:52:32. > :52:38.what we're doing? 2 billion has to be saved in the budget by 2021. What
:52:39. > :52:42.will you cut? We can do something to do that, integrate budgets and make
:52:43. > :52:46.sure we're spending it on how we look after people and how we
:52:47. > :52:53.commission across greater Manchester... I would say two
:52:54. > :52:58.things... Two things have to be cut. Unnecessarily -- unnecessarily
:52:59. > :53:03.hospitalisation of all the people, they spent weeks on bass -- weeks in
:53:04. > :53:06.hospital. Number two spending huge amounts of money on private staffing
:53:07. > :53:10.agencies, cuts to nurse training have left hospitals in greater
:53:11. > :53:14.Manchester in the grip of private staffing agencies. If I am then I
:53:15. > :53:17.will bring three scheme that graduates in nursing or midwifery in
:53:18. > :53:24.greater Manchester is the commits to our NHS five years I will surely
:53:25. > :53:30.help pay the tuition fees. This is about health. When you're talking
:53:31. > :53:34.about efficiencies in the NHS that is not cutting the job of a manager,
:53:35. > :53:38.that means less appointments with doctors and long waiting times, it
:53:39. > :53:46.means more people having five minute visits. Let's tackle the problem,
:53:47. > :53:50.because neither shone or Andy have addressed that, we have a plan of
:53:51. > :53:53.how we're going to address the shortfall in care funding to support
:53:54. > :53:59.the professionals because actually you do need to address that issue.
:54:00. > :54:03.We need more funding for social care, local authorities have been
:54:04. > :54:08.cut and cut again and we do have a plan... You are trying to get in. No
:54:09. > :54:11.one else has a plan to bring together a proper fund for social
:54:12. > :54:17.care and that is where we're going with this. Firstly junkies boxing
:54:18. > :54:20.went been in the room to sign these agreements and every time he does he
:54:21. > :54:23.reminds us that more than 2/2-million people in greater
:54:24. > :54:28.Manchester when not in the room to take part in the decision-making
:54:29. > :54:32.process. But also we talk about responsibility being devolved to the
:54:33. > :54:35.NHS and it is entirely clear to me that when the government wants to
:54:36. > :54:40.devolve responsibility what they mean is blamed. They mean cutting
:54:41. > :54:43.the funding and rates and greater Manchester 's funding and do what
:54:44. > :54:48.they have done to the Welsh farming. Commenters there called the War on
:54:49. > :54:54.Wales. We will get this replaced with the mauling of Manchester if
:54:55. > :55:00.we're not careful. We were told before that breast cancer drugs in
:55:01. > :55:03.Scotland will be funded but in the UK they will not be so when John
:55:04. > :55:08.talks about countries, I'd get it right, the English NHS is the one
:55:09. > :55:15.facing the massive cuts, not getting the cancer drugs that we want but
:55:16. > :55:20.Scotland are. We have to think big and people will be more than happy
:55:21. > :55:26.to pay 5p tax towards the NHS than to build better housing. That will
:55:27. > :55:33.get us very far, that is why you could put on a manifesto to properly
:55:34. > :55:39.fund NHS and how loopy fillers, unlike the Conservatives have
:55:40. > :55:45.promised to funded and cut it. Where is the than 50 million? That was not
:55:46. > :55:50.Ukip, that was the Tories. We understand that by having a more
:55:51. > :55:53.realistic overseas aid budget, we have 12 billion coming back from the
:55:54. > :56:00.EU post Brexit, that is money that we can... We will get Deyika Nzeribe
:56:01. > :56:06.to answer this. There is a lot of discussion here about a lot of
:56:07. > :56:14.things but the idea that the 350 million going back to Britain
:56:15. > :56:16.argument is to suggesting that scaremongering of people who wanted
:56:17. > :56:22.to stay in yellow, I'm European that is why want to be and we wrestle a
:56:23. > :56:29.liability and 50 million to the NHS, where is it? Where is that money? --
:56:30. > :56:33.we were sold a lie. Can I ask the question? The EU is stopping is
:56:34. > :56:39.recruiting nurses from around the world. When I was a governor in
:56:40. > :56:43.hospital every single meeting we had the same problem, it could not
:56:44. > :56:48.retreat. I am terribly sorry, I am going to stop you there in
:56:49. > :56:54.mid-track. I apologise but we have to stop. We have run out of time.
:56:55. > :57:01.Thank you very much. It is just two weeks until we go to the polls to
:57:02. > :57:05.vote for one of these and the eight candidates in greater Manchester
:57:06. > :57:10.mayoral elections. You can find it but more about what they have to say
:57:11. > :57:15.on each subject on the BBC website, that is BBC .co .uk/ candidates and
:57:16. > :57:20.as I said you can join in the debate, the hash tag is your mayor.
:57:21. > :57:25.For now, thank you to our candidates and audience, a fantastic debate.
:57:26. > :57:36.Thank you very much all of you, from all this year, media city in
:57:37. > :57:41.Salford, good night. Why are we not talking about an elected assembly?
:57:42. > :57:45.What is going on with the health service is related to the European
:57:46. > :57:48.issue. What the mayor should be able to do is put that into context and
:57:49. > :57:55.ensure the funding is spent efficiently. What will we do about
:57:56. > :57:58.the illegal private hire and illegal taxis operating in Manchester? It
:57:59. > :58:05.will be down to the one personalities. I don't want to see
:58:06. > :58:06.Bono style stunts like these empires, kennelling and style
:58:07. > :58:13.outrageous statements.