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:00:07. > :00:13.Hello, this is business live from the BBC.

:00:14. > :00:16.Calm returns to global financial markets but for how long and at what

:00:17. > :00:18.cost? Live from London, it is the top

:00:19. > :00:38.story on Tuesday the 5th of January. The Chinese authorities pour nearly

:00:39. > :00:42.$20 billion into money market to bring stability after Monday's

:00:43. > :00:46.dramatic plunge. The stock market today was closed slightly lower, we

:00:47. > :00:51.will have the expert view. Also, Volkswagen faces billions of dollars

:00:52. > :00:54.fines as America's Justice Department sues the car-maker for

:00:55. > :00:57.cheating emissions. The big question, how big will the legal

:00:58. > :00:59.bilby? And question, how big will the legal

:01:00. > :01:04.bilby? And here is how the European numbers are looking at the opening

:01:05. > :01:16.after yesterday's big sale. We will assess what today could bring.

:01:17. > :01:18.And how social media has changed the firms advertise as brands battle for

:01:19. > :01:23.consumers' attention and agencies at that, but we will get the inside

:01:24. > :01:29.track from Lindsay Paterson, part of the WPP empire. And the headlines

:01:30. > :01:33.read happy new fear? Do you think financial markets are going the

:01:34. > :01:43.wrong direction in 2016? Use the hashtag.

:01:44. > :01:49.A very warm welcome to the programme. Stock markets in China

:01:50. > :01:54.have recovered after opening more than 3% down earlier today. Shanghai

:01:55. > :02:00.shares closed just a quarter of 8% lower. Traders described the initial

:02:01. > :02:06.loss as panic following suspension of trading on Monday, when shares

:02:07. > :02:09.plunged by 7% triggering an automatic shutdown. It was sparked

:02:10. > :02:12.by weak manufacturing data and the introduction of a new circuit

:02:13. > :02:18.breaker system that encouraged traders to make sales early in the

:02:19. > :02:22.day. The plunge in China initiated a big global sell-off. Markets across

:02:23. > :02:27.Asia, Europe and the US all suffered losses. So this is how the numbers

:02:28. > :02:32.are currently looking, this is the picture in Asia overnight, when

:02:33. > :02:35.China stepped in to support the stock market with state-controlled

:02:36. > :02:38.funds buying up stocks and regulators signalling that the

:02:39. > :02:41.selling ban on major investors will remain in place beyond the rest of

:02:42. > :02:46.the week, that was due to expire this week. But whilst that has eased

:02:47. > :02:52.the falls in the latest trading sessions, it gives the market more

:02:53. > :02:56.autonomy and lets it move naturally. So this is what Europe is currently

:02:57. > :03:02.doing at the start of the day. The FTSE 100 in London ended yesterday

:03:03. > :03:07.down, it is clawing back some of those losses just shy of 1%. A

:03:08. > :03:11.similar picture in Germany, where the losses were much greater, ending

:03:12. > :03:14.down nearly 4%. The big question, what will today bring?

:03:15. > :03:17.Thank you, well... Nandini Ramakrishnan,

:03:18. > :03:19.Global Market Strategist at JP Morgan Asset Management

:03:20. > :03:28.joins me now. Happy New Year. Or happy new fear is

:03:29. > :03:35.some newspapers are saying, your thoughts? It is definitely very

:03:36. > :03:38.dramatic, certainly not what we expected, but once again a signal

:03:39. > :03:44.that there will be volatility in 2016 as new markets like China's

:03:45. > :03:47.stock market adjust to being a more open, free market and understanding

:03:48. > :03:54.how truly buy and sell mechanisms like this will work. As you say,

:03:55. > :03:56.same time intervening quite heavily same time intervening quite heavily

:03:57. > :04:01.by the sounds of things and trying to manage it as well, which for

:04:02. > :04:06.foreign investors is a difficult thing to try and predict, isn't it?

:04:07. > :04:09.Exactly, said the action of buying in the Open market, as we saw in the

:04:10. > :04:12.latest session, is something they are doing to try and stave off the

:04:13. > :04:18.losses but ironically, this circuit breaker that triggered yesterday's

:04:19. > :04:23.trading was the first time it has ever been in place, so a new market

:04:24. > :04:26.action to try and let the market decide where to stop didn't work as

:04:27. > :04:31.planned, so I think they are figuring out how exactly to let the

:04:32. > :04:35.markets be more free. And on that issue, the last time they stepped in

:04:36. > :04:39.with those big falls we saw recently at the end of last year, there was a

:04:40. > :04:42.lot of concern about how much intervention the Chinese authorities

:04:43. > :04:45.would have in the markets and they said they would let the markets do

:04:46. > :04:49.what they do best and let investors rule. It has not been the case this

:04:50. > :04:53.time, should we believe it will be any different next time? I then

:04:54. > :04:58.think we can say they will be completely hands-off, this has

:04:59. > :05:01.taught us that they will step in if losses were as bad as they were on

:05:02. > :05:05.the 4th of January's trading session, so I think we need to give

:05:06. > :05:09.them time, take each volatile trading day on its own and see what

:05:10. > :05:12.happens. Maybe they will reduce the amount of liquidity injected into

:05:13. > :05:17.the market in the next bad session, but each time at a time. And

:05:18. > :05:24.briefly, what are you saying at JP Morgan to your clients this year?

:05:25. > :05:29.2016 will be a volatile year, you have two remain invested, stay

:05:30. > :05:31.diversifying and be active in selecting specifics, not just the

:05:32. > :05:36.full index and seeing losses like you saw on the 4th of January. Thank

:05:37. > :05:39.you, we will see you again this year, I am sure, so fasten your seat

:05:40. > :05:40.belts. Yes, we shall, in the meantime,

:05:41. > :05:42.other news. The US Justice Department is suing

:05:43. > :05:44.Volkswagen over the emissions scandal that saw the German car

:05:45. > :05:47.giant fit software in millions In September last year,

:05:48. > :05:51.VW admitted installing the so-called defeat device on 11 million vehicles

:05:52. > :05:56.around the world and has now put aside billions of euros to deal

:05:57. > :05:58.with the repercussions. Chinese airlines are stepping

:05:59. > :06:01.up their plans to go global. Nearly a dozen carriers are expected

:06:02. > :06:05.to launch international services in 2016, to cope with the huge

:06:06. > :06:08.numbers of mainland These include Air China

:06:09. > :06:13.which will launch services to Manchester in the UK,

:06:14. > :06:17.Hainan Airlines that wants to start more flights to Canada

:06:18. > :06:34.and Sichuan Airlines Copper price has slumped after that

:06:35. > :06:38.week Chinese manufacturing data, it fell in December. It raised concerns

:06:39. > :06:42.about the demand from the world's largest consumer of metal, a key

:06:43. > :06:45.component in the manufacturing of everything from mobile phones to

:06:46. > :06:49.houses and is seen as a good gauge of economic health.

:06:50. > :06:53.Looking at business live online as ever, lots of stories and

:06:54. > :06:57.information and news to keep you right up to date. This is one that

:06:58. > :07:02.is quite eye-catching, which is about gun sales in the United

:07:03. > :07:02.States, a very controversial issue at

:07:03. > :07:05.States, a very controversial issue at the moment, very much in the news

:07:06. > :07:10.is that President Obama tries his best before his term ends to try and

:07:11. > :07:15.get changes in the law regarding gun ownership, but this particular

:07:16. > :07:22.story, Smith and Wesson expects to shift more guns in the three months

:07:23. > :07:27.to the end of January, sales ranging from $175 million up to 180 million.

:07:28. > :07:31.They are selling merchandise like he would not believe. Jon Sopel, our

:07:32. > :07:36.correspondent in North America, you will have seen his piece on the BBC

:07:37. > :07:38.about how easy it is to buy a gun in the US.

:07:39. > :07:41.One of the industries that gets the world talking and one of the firms

:07:42. > :07:44.that does very well out of it despite the controversy surrounding

:07:45. > :07:47.it. This is another interesting one, a

:07:48. > :07:53.storm in a teacake. These are the teacake may have seen, Tunnocks, at

:07:54. > :08:00.the Commonwealth games in Glasgow. A bit of a row has emerged about the

:08:01. > :08:05.company's latest advertising campaign, which says they are a

:08:06. > :08:10.great British teacake, can the managing director make that claim?

:08:11. > :08:13.He is the energy director and the grandson of the company founder. We

:08:14. > :08:17.have a boss from the advertising industry later, perhaps a question

:08:18. > :08:21.for her. In the meantime, the continued

:08:22. > :08:24.nervousness on global stock markets, the sell-off in China, it has meant

:08:25. > :08:31.pressure on Hong Kong's stock market. Giuliana is in Hong Kong,

:08:32. > :08:33.can you explain this relationship between mainland China and the

:08:34. > :08:40.markets there and what is happening in Hong Kong. That is right, Hong

:08:41. > :08:44.Kong is a Chinese city but politically and financially, it is

:08:45. > :08:49.completely separate and by law, mainland officials have no due

:08:50. > :08:57.restriction here and that extends to interventions in the market, so the

:08:58. > :08:59.regulators, if they intervene in Shanghai or Shang Jing or in the

:09:00. > :09:05.money markets, let's say intervention cannot be carried out

:09:06. > :09:09.in Hong Kong, so that is why sometimes you will see rather

:09:10. > :09:14.curious occurrences with some companies that are listed both in

:09:15. > :09:19.mainland China and Hong Kong having very different share prices on the

:09:20. > :09:25.same day. We have seen that to some extent over the last few days. Here

:09:26. > :09:31.in Hong Kong, it is a very free market, so investors are able to

:09:32. > :09:34.respond as they see fit and sometimes, of course, they will be

:09:35. > :09:39.affected by the intervention that they will see in mainland China but

:09:40. > :09:42.they certainly wouldn't be bound by those interventions. Juliana, thank

:09:43. > :09:48.you very much, in Hong Kong. Richard Fletcher is business editor

:09:49. > :09:52.at the times. As we have said quite a few times, quite a start to the

:09:53. > :10:01.year and a slot in the media love to make the most of it, but give us

:10:02. > :10:05.your take on our part in the story of getting financial information out

:10:06. > :10:10.there and getting the story right? It is important when dramatic moves

:10:11. > :10:14.are taking place. Yes, you rarely read stories about billions wiped

:10:15. > :10:20.onto shares, it is normally wiping off, so you have to be careful as an

:10:21. > :10:24.editor to describe a 2% fall is a crash because it is not a crash and

:10:25. > :10:29.also, what do you do when it does fall 10% or 15% if you have

:10:30. > :10:37.described 2% is a crash, you are out of hyperbole. So others who have

:10:38. > :10:41.done this for a few years, markets do tend to smack you slightly, as we

:10:42. > :10:45.have seen today and they bounce back, it is or was difficult, so you

:10:46. > :10:49.have to get the balance right and readers definitely pick us up, I

:10:50. > :10:53.have had a few people on Twitter this morning who argue that we have

:10:54. > :10:58.over emphasised the bad news rather than the good news, and we do like

:10:59. > :11:04.the good news occasionally, which is important to remember. I think more

:11:05. > :11:07.than occasionally, that is the impression we are getting. You have

:11:08. > :11:11.to keep some sort of perspective. Yesterday was an important day, what

:11:12. > :11:15.happened in China yesterday was important, which is why we put it on

:11:16. > :11:19.the front page, but you have to keep some perspective and you can't over

:11:20. > :11:25.egg these things. Richard, just a word on VW, that is a story that has

:11:26. > :11:28.everybody talking as well. Yesterday, the US Justice

:11:29. > :11:32.Department, suing Volkswagen for fitting these cheat emission

:11:33. > :11:36.devices, but they have stopped short of naming individuals or criminal

:11:37. > :11:41.charges, this is based on VW and the effect it has had in the US. This is

:11:42. > :11:43.the civil case, we could still see criminal charges, the Justice

:11:44. > :11:47.Department could still bring criminal charges and they stressed

:11:48. > :11:52.that yesterday but the civil case will now move to Northern

:11:53. > :11:55.California. What I suspect we will see on the civil charges, we will

:11:56. > :11:59.now have a period of probably no news as they negotiate, because most

:12:00. > :12:05.people expect them to negotiate. If you look at the cost per vehicle,

:12:06. > :12:09.you could be looking at fines of up to 90 billion for Volkswagen, which

:12:10. > :12:13.is a huge number. What we will probably see now is a bit of radio

:12:14. > :12:16.silence as they negotiate some sort of agreement for the civil damages

:12:17. > :12:22.which come under the clean air laws in the US, but we could still see

:12:23. > :12:27.criminal charges and obviously we could still see elsewhere in the

:12:28. > :12:31.world, both civil and individuals taking action. So watch this space.

:12:32. > :12:34.We will see you later, thank you very much for now, Richard will come

:12:35. > :12:37.back and talk about more stories in the press today.

:12:38. > :12:39.Still to come, vying for your attention.

:12:40. > :12:41.How has social media changed the way firms advertise?

:12:42. > :12:44.We'll meet the boss of global media agency Maxus for the inside track

:12:45. > :12:46.on how businesses are battling for our business.

:12:47. > :12:53.You're with Business Live from BBC News.

:12:54. > :12:56.In the UK, high street chain Next has blamed unseasonably warm weather

:12:57. > :12:58.for what it calls a "disappointing" performance

:12:59. > :13:04.There was a fall in store sales and a sharp slowdown

:13:05. > :13:12.Simon Jack has the details in our business newsroom.

:13:13. > :13:17.Next, the first big retailer to update us on how it fared in the

:13:18. > :13:21.crucial Christmas period. Yes, disappointing was the word they use

:13:22. > :13:30.about their own performance, as you said, sales on the high street down

:13:31. > :13:34.0.5%, sales online by 2%, not the growth we have seen in recent years.

:13:35. > :13:38.Retailers always complain about the weather but to be there to Next,

:13:39. > :13:41.seasonality does play a part and they went to the pains of producing

:13:42. > :13:46.this chart in their statement which shows that as the weather goes down,

:13:47. > :13:50.sales go up and we have had this unseasonably warm weather, November

:13:51. > :13:53.to December where temperatures were up, so sales are down. Profits

:13:54. > :13:59.already coming in at the lower end of estimates has seen shares fall 5%

:14:00. > :14:04.this morning. We have Marks Spencer is to come in the next few

:14:05. > :14:09.days to find out how the retailers' Christmas panned out. Apparently it

:14:10. > :14:13.is fat cat Tuesday, please explain. This is a rather depressing piece of

:14:14. > :14:17.information. By the end of today, the average FTSE-100 CEO will have

:14:18. > :14:21.earned more than the average worker will have for the rest of the year,

:14:22. > :14:25.two days into the year. I put it on my Twitter feed and I don't think I

:14:26. > :14:29.have ever had a bigger response. So a little moment for that information

:14:30. > :14:34.to settle, the average CEO will earn more by the end of today than most

:14:35. > :14:36.people will the rest of the year. What a lovely thought, thank you, I

:14:37. > :14:40.am sure we will get reaction for that.

:14:41. > :14:43.What a depressing start to Tuesday if you are back at work after the

:14:44. > :14:46.Christmas holidays. I am sure Mark Carney is back at

:14:47. > :14:51.work. And he is talking consumer borrowing

:14:52. > :14:55.levels rising to precrisis levels, so the question is what you did over

:14:56. > :14:59.the holidays, did you splurge on the credit card, did you spend too much

:15:00. > :15:03.and do you have that financial hangover?

:15:04. > :15:07.Would you like to confess on air? Good, bad or ugly? I never use it

:15:08. > :15:10.unless I can pay it off at the end of the month. We have to practice

:15:11. > :15:14.what we preach, we talk about it all the time.

:15:15. > :15:19.We will be hearing from Next and Marks Spencer's. We will keep you

:15:20. > :15:22.across the news as it comes in. Always a crucial period over

:15:23. > :15:24.Christmas, we will find out the winners and the losers. We will have

:15:25. > :15:28.the details right here. Our top story, the calm

:15:29. > :15:33.after the storm, a massive stimulus injection by the Chinese government

:15:34. > :15:41.helps to stabilise Asian markets. Everywhere you look, it seems you're

:15:42. > :15:44.bombarded with advertising. Firms all vying for our attention

:15:45. > :15:47.to make us spend our As this year gets underway,

:15:48. > :15:55.2016 is set to be a bumper year The biggest drivers of spending

:15:56. > :16:18.on marketing and advertising But the boom in social media,

:16:19. > :16:23.apps and smartphones are all offering consumers new ways

:16:24. > :16:26.to communicate and shop and often And so as consumers evolve so too

:16:27. > :16:30.must the advertising industry. GroupM expects digital advertising

:16:31. > :16:33.to make up 31% of global ad budgets this year as the industry moves

:16:34. > :16:36.online, away from traditional media. Our next guest, Lindsay Pattison,

:16:37. > :16:38.took over as chief executive of global media agency,

:16:39. > :16:40.Maxus in October 2014. And she's overseen the group's

:16:41. > :16:55.billings grow by $500 million. You told me an important fact which

:16:56. > :17:00.I can't remember. Tell us about, you are the only female CEO of a global

:17:01. > :17:03.ad agency? Yes, depressingly. It is quite depressing. Ben, you wanted to

:17:04. > :17:07.start off with the actual nuts and bolts of it. We talked about the

:17:08. > :17:11.advertising industry as a whole and it is easy to talk about an industry

:17:12. > :17:14.that's been changed by technology and social media, but advertising is

:17:15. > :17:18.one of the biggest beneficiaries if you get it right, but at the

:17:19. > :17:21.detriment of the industry if you get it wrong and we talk a lot about

:17:22. > :17:24.Facebook and Twitter trying to make money from advertising. How does

:17:25. > :17:29.that, what change have you seen in the way that you do your business as

:17:30. > :17:35.a result of technology? Well, we saw some stats earlier with 31% of

:17:36. > :17:38.global ad budgets moving into digital. In the UK we are ahead of

:17:39. > :17:41.the market. I expect 50% of the budgets in the UK to be spent in

:17:42. > :17:45.digital advertising and the reason for that is because, of course,

:17:46. > :17:48.consumers are obsessed with their smartphones. You talked about

:17:49. > :17:54.smartphone devices, we expect the major way that you will access a

:17:55. > :18:00.brand and entertainment and content is by a mobile device. A

:18:01. > :18:03.mobile-ready for a mobile first campaign is critical for all

:18:04. > :18:09.clients. Did the industry see this coming? You look at something and it

:18:10. > :18:13.has a tiny screen compared to cinema advertising that we might have been

:18:14. > :18:20.used to. Did the industry see it coming that you have to win over a

:18:21. > :18:23.consumer on a screen that big? I worked at Sony Ericsson, mobile

:18:24. > :18:32.phones, we talked to them that the fact that you would take your device

:18:33. > :18:36.and that was in the days of WAP, now, I think, marketers are having

:18:37. > :18:40.to realise that, optimise your campaign and think about what you

:18:41. > :18:43.can do on a mobile deviews, I mean that's an amazing device. You can

:18:44. > :18:50.turn it rournd. He can engage with it, you can like, you can control,

:18:51. > :18:56.you can interact and use the gyroscope whereas in the past, you

:18:57. > :19:01.lent back, you watched your TV screen and you saw a billboard, now

:19:02. > :19:07.marketers are having to lean in and see how you can get someone to use a

:19:08. > :19:09.mobile device to make your advertising work harder. Does it

:19:10. > :19:13.mean that advertising that's effective to the masses has become

:19:14. > :19:17.much more accessible to companies? You haven't got to spend millions of

:19:18. > :19:21.pounds or dollars on a TV advertising campaign. Yeah, exactly.

:19:22. > :19:25.The entry points for advertising are minimal, you can start a social

:19:26. > :19:29.media campaign and you can create your own Facebook page and start a

:19:30. > :19:32.Twitter account and build up your social media followers and we talk

:19:33. > :19:36.about paid, owned and earned media. In the past it was about the paid.

:19:37. > :19:42.Hundreds of thousands of advertising dollars, it is a ?20 billion

:19:43. > :19:45.industry in the UK is spent on advertising, but starting with your

:19:46. > :19:50.own assets in social media is a great entry point for any

:19:51. > :19:55.entrepreneur. So you run this company? Yes. Which is under the

:19:56. > :19:58.umbrella of WPP, you have been in advertising since the start of your

:19:59. > :20:02.career and you have seen a huge change since that time and you said,

:20:03. > :20:08.it is depressing that you are the only female boss of a global ad

:20:09. > :20:12.company. Why is that? Is it particularly tough in your industry

:20:13. > :20:16.or is that across-the-board? I think advertising in the UK is in really

:20:17. > :20:21.good health and we have a lot of female Chief Executives in the media

:20:22. > :20:25.space and the media is a tough male environment, it is like the

:20:26. > :20:30.stockbroking environment, but globally we have legacy structures

:20:31. > :20:37.in place. People hire in the same image and women need to smash

:20:38. > :20:42.through the glass ceiling, we need to make sure we sit on a panel and

:20:43. > :20:47.come on a TV show. You are on the TV, great, I can be maybe like you.

:20:48. > :20:51.In the UK, one of the reasons they are in good health, there are

:20:52. > :20:58.specific organisations that you are a part of to help women get forward?

:20:59. > :21:03.We have a club which Morrissey set-up, we have an organisation in

:21:04. > :21:06.London, it is 92 years old designed to help women at the highest levels

:21:07. > :21:10.in our industry. We need more of those. We are talking about the

:21:11. > :21:13.global economy. We talk about the advertising industry being a

:21:14. > :21:18.bellwether for what the global economy is doing. Quickly your take

:21:19. > :21:23.on what this year is good, bad, indifferent? Good. Here in the UK we

:21:24. > :21:27.think 5% to 7%. China, we just talked about earlier in the show,

:21:28. > :21:34.slowing, but we see 8% growth, but the star market is India with 15%

:21:35. > :21:36.growth in ad spend and ad spend generally outstrips GDP. Music to

:21:37. > :21:40.the ears! Now how's this for a

:21:41. > :21:42.glimpse of the future? Well, tech giant LG has been working

:21:43. > :21:47.on a fully flexible screen and at this year's Consumer

:21:48. > :21:49.Electronics Show in Las Vegas it's The BBC's Dave Lee has been given

:21:50. > :22:02.exclusive hands-on access. This is from LG Display,

:22:03. > :22:09.the first fully flexible LED screen. You can roll it, and the picture

:22:10. > :22:13.stays in high-definition Rather than having a TV taking up

:22:14. > :22:25.space, when you have watched TV, you can roll it up,

:22:26. > :22:27.put it in the cupboard, You can only roll it

:22:28. > :22:34.in one direction. If you are too rough,

:22:35. > :22:36.some of the individual It means there are pieces

:22:37. > :22:43.missing from the picture. Why would someone need

:22:44. > :22:50.a flexible screen like this? Today you're watching

:22:51. > :22:53.an 18-inch prototype, but imagine you have a larger size,

:22:54. > :22:58.larger than 85-inch, but imagine you have a larger size,

:22:59. > :23:01.larger than 55-inch, and you can roll up your TV

:23:02. > :23:04.when you do not need it. You can still look at your

:23:05. > :23:06.beautiful wallpapers. This is just a concept

:23:07. > :23:14.at the moment. It is certainly an interesting side

:23:15. > :23:35.of what might be the future of TV. Richard is here with us. Car makers,

:23:36. > :23:42.normally it is the music players, I'm showing my age there! The car

:23:43. > :23:48.makers. This time it is the car makers. A few years ago, you

:23:49. > :23:52.wouldn't have seen car makers at CES, cars are probably one of the

:23:53. > :23:57.biggest stories to come out, that will come out this year. And that's

:23:58. > :24:02.because there is a great battle between the technology companies and

:24:03. > :24:07.car makers. Car makers fear in a decade's time actually, they won't

:24:08. > :24:09.be building cars, Google will be and therefore, they're trying to hedge

:24:10. > :24:13.their bets and they're trying to make sure that they are part of the

:24:14. > :24:22.industry going forward and therefore, they are at CES and it is

:24:23. > :24:28.about everything from making sure your connected devices run in the

:24:29. > :24:32.car. Stories today in the press by Toyota and Ford and other car makers

:24:33. > :24:37.keeping together with their tech trying to keep out Apple and

:24:38. > :24:40.Samsung. Absolutely. They want their technology to remain in house within

:24:41. > :24:47.their industry. Let's talk about the oil price. A story that's been on

:24:48. > :24:53.going because of the tensions between Saudi Arabia and Iran. This

:24:54. > :24:58.in The Telegraph, "Saudi showdown with Iran nears danger point for the

:24:59. > :25:03.world oil markets." They have looked at rise in tensions in Saudi. It is

:25:04. > :25:09.a good point. A few years ago, if we had seen the pictures, you know, of

:25:10. > :25:13.the Saudi embassy on fire in Tehran, you know, we would have seen a

:25:14. > :25:17.massive spike in the oil price and because we have got a glut, the

:25:18. > :25:24.market shrugged it off as just noise. They didn't really take much

:25:25. > :25:29.notice. I mean oil did rise sharply at the start of trading, but by the

:25:30. > :25:35.end of the day, it was up a fraction of 1%, it was hardly up at all. This

:25:36. > :25:39.could be, this increase in tension could actually disrupt the supply of

:25:40. > :25:43.oil and there is a glut as we all know, but nevertheless, you know,

:25:44. > :25:45.this is increasing tension in the Middle East.

:25:46. > :25:49.Richard, it has been great to have you on the programme. Thank you for

:25:50. > :25:53.coming in and sharing your insights on the big stories of the day.

:25:54. > :26:12.Hello again. Good morning. It is another wet day

:26:13. > :26:14.with rain or showers in