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:00:00. > :00:00.Live from London, that's our top story on Thursday

:00:00. > :00:22.Shell shareholders have given the green light -

:00:23. > :00:28.now it's up to investors in BG Group to seal the deal.

:00:29. > :00:35.And to say they are on board. With prices at around $30 a barrel, does

:00:36. > :00:38.it make financial sex. Tax transparency -

:00:39. > :00:43.will the new OECD deal make corporate giants pay

:00:44. > :00:45.the right amount of tax.? And it's a mixed picture emerging

:00:46. > :00:48.in Europe on financial markets - lots of companies have reported

:00:49. > :00:51.earnings as investors cherry pick Monarch Airlines was close

:00:52. > :01:00.to collapse just two years ago, but it's set to return to profit

:01:01. > :01:02.after rebranding itself And how much is your

:01:03. > :01:07.information worth? Facebook says it makes $3.73

:01:08. > :01:11.a year from each of us, so we want to know -

:01:12. > :01:14.is it right that firms profit Let us know, use the

:01:15. > :01:25.hashtag BBC BizLive. Royal Dutch Shell shareholders have

:01:26. > :01:34.given the go ahead for its takeover It's a merger that would make Shell

:01:35. > :01:45.the world's biggest liquified The deal is worth $49 billion

:01:46. > :01:49.dollars - and as well as LNG assets, it would also give Shell access

:01:50. > :01:52.to valuable oil resources But some Shell shareholders have

:01:53. > :01:59.questioned the logic of the deal - as oil has dropped from 55 dollars

:02:00. > :02:03.a barrel when it was first announced in April - to just 30

:02:04. > :02:08.dollars a barrel. BG Group shareholders

:02:09. > :02:10.are expected to approve the deal If it goes ahead, the companies

:02:11. > :02:18.would merge on the 15th of February. Christopher Wheaton,

:02:19. > :02:32.Energy Analyst at Allianz Global Welcome. $49 billion, the deal, but

:02:33. > :02:38.makes financial sense given the makes financial sense given the

:02:39. > :02:42.sell-off in oil. Clearly shareholders in Shell think it does.

:02:43. > :02:47.We have had mixed views in the market but it is important to note

:02:48. > :02:53.the value of the deal has come down the third, $25 billion, since it was

:02:54. > :02:58.announced last year. That is because Shell chose to pay sensibly part in

:02:59. > :03:02.shares in part in cash and the falling price has been reflected in

:03:03. > :03:08.the lower price they are paying. On paper it seems to make sense because

:03:09. > :03:12.it is about streamlining operations and controlling a bigger slice of

:03:13. > :03:22.the market. What is in it for both sides, when we talk about potential

:03:23. > :03:26.gains? BG, they get part of a bigger business. Shell, it is important

:03:27. > :03:31.they focus on the parts of the oil industry they are good at, such as

:03:32. > :03:37.liquefied natural gas and deepwater offshore oil and gas industry. If

:03:38. > :03:42.you look their history, that is where they have made the highest

:03:43. > :03:49.return on capital. It makes sense for Shell to focus on the bits of

:03:50. > :03:53.the industry it is good at. What is interesting in the climate of lower

:03:54. > :04:00.oil prices, yesterday reports that officials from the IMF and World

:04:01. > :04:04.Bank looking at Azerbaijan, and an emergency loan to prop up their

:04:05. > :04:08.industry, given their dependence on oil. Are we likely to see more of

:04:09. > :04:12.that, with countries dependent on the price of oil, in the same way

:04:13. > :04:16.these companies look at the price, these countries say they cannot

:04:17. > :04:23.afford to pay their bills? The industry is screaming in pain at $30

:04:24. > :04:29.oil. And countries like Azerbaijan, you could add Nigeria, Columbia, and

:04:30. > :04:35.Middle Eastern nations. It is hurting. We will see more of this

:04:36. > :04:40.intervention at government level. There have been issues in Russia on

:04:41. > :04:43.whether they need to tax the oil and gas industry to raise more

:04:44. > :04:50.government revenue because the budget does not work at $30 oil. We

:04:51. > :04:53.will see more of this, just as in the commercial sector more banks

:04:54. > :04:56.trying to recover money they have led to the oil industry,

:04:57. > :05:03.particularly the US shale industry over the last five years. To return

:05:04. > :05:07.to this merger issue. What happens next? Shell shareholders giving this

:05:08. > :05:15.the green light, are we set for it to go ahead? That is one formality,

:05:16. > :05:20.the BG shareholder vote today which will almost certainly go through.

:05:21. > :05:21.And the green light goes on on the 15th of February. Thanks very much.

:05:22. > :05:30.Good to see you. When we hear about that result, the

:05:31. > :05:34.vote, which is expected to be approved, we will let you know.

:05:35. > :05:37.Facebook has been winning more friends on Wall Street.

:05:38. > :05:42.Shares in the social media giant jumped almost 12 per cent

:05:43. > :05:45.in after-hours trading after it said profits doubled in the last quarter.

:05:46. > :05:48.Revenue was up strongly - as were the number of active users

:05:49. > :05:52.Facebook has now beaten analysts' expectations for ten quarters

:05:53. > :05:59.in a row as advertising revenue continues to surge.

:06:00. > :06:02.EBay's shares have fallen sharply after it forecast lower

:06:03. > :06:04.than expected earnings that could mean a decline

:06:05. > :06:08.EBay is struggling with competition from rival Amazon and traditional

:06:09. > :06:13.retailers like Wal-Mart that are boosting their online presence.

:06:14. > :06:18.Rules to stop companies using complex tax arrangements

:06:19. > :06:22.to avoid paying corporate tax have been agreed by 31 OECD members.

:06:23. > :06:26.They will make it harder for firms to hide money in tax havens or play

:06:27. > :06:28.one country's tax authority against another.

:06:29. > :06:30.Firms such as Google, Amazon and Facebook must now pay tax

:06:31. > :06:40.in the country where the profits are made.

:06:41. > :06:48.Staying with the theme of tax, I want to take you to the life page

:06:49. > :06:52.because the Today programme have spoken to a Commissioner responsible

:06:53. > :06:55.for the deal over taxes and a debate about whether the EU could force

:06:56. > :07:03.Google and other companies to pay more tax in the country's revenue is

:07:04. > :07:08.earned. It has been debated, Starbucks, Tech giants, specifically

:07:09. > :07:12.related to this row. A debate on the life page about whether the EU could

:07:13. > :07:19.make a firm start paying fairer tax in the countries in which they earn

:07:20. > :07:24.the money. I was going to jump in to say something I noticed today, this

:07:25. > :07:30.is my opportunity to mention it, we have results coming in, Apple,

:07:31. > :07:36.Boeing, eBay. Yesterday we had a steep fall on the markets in the US.

:07:37. > :07:39.Apple and Boeing plunging on disappointing results. Together the

:07:40. > :07:44.share price fall accounted for more than half the slide on the Dow Jones

:07:45. > :07:51.industrial average. They are such big companies, and Apple the biggest

:07:52. > :07:55.in terms of market capitalisation. That is interesting. Please agree

:07:56. > :07:57.with me! The world is glad he reported on that news. We have heard

:07:58. > :08:02.from many big names in technology. Samsung has reported profits down

:08:03. > :08:19.40% for the fourth quarter, It is squeezed at both ends of the

:08:20. > :08:29.smartphone market we can talk to Sarah. Give us more detail on how

:08:30. > :08:34.Samsung is doing. Hello, Sally. After years of record profits it

:08:35. > :08:40.appears things are finally slowing down for Samsung Electronics.

:08:41. > :08:44.Profits fell by about 40% down to $2.7 billion in the first three

:08:45. > :08:50.months to December. That is significantly below estimates.

:08:51. > :08:55.Samsung warned it would be difficult to maintain profits this year.

:08:56. > :09:02.Smartphone sales hit by strong competition, and cheaper Chinese

:09:03. > :09:10.rivals and at the top of the market, Apple. The slowdown in China is

:09:11. > :09:18.taking its toll. The most recent top of the range handset, Galaxy Essex,

:09:19. > :09:23.fails to excite consumers and their other core business, semiconductors,

:09:24. > :09:27.faces we can demand, for personal computer. It makes components for

:09:28. > :09:34.the iPhone and that too is also facing a slowdown in sales. Thanks.

:09:35. > :09:48.Ling us in on Samsun, it is one of those companies that has a massive

:09:49. > :09:58.impact on the market here. The big loser on the Dow Jones, Apple, and

:09:59. > :10:02.Boeing. Six and a half per cent down, Apple shares. A lot of

:10:03. > :10:09.companies have come up with earnings. Diageo, better than

:10:10. > :10:14.expected news. The FTSE was up. And Germany France hovering around the

:10:15. > :10:17.same level, one third. It is reading between the lines as companies

:10:18. > :10:25.reveal how they are faring stock companies like Diageo and the

:10:26. > :10:36.American firms, some of them affected by the dollar. For a look

:10:37. > :10:47.ahead today and what we can expect, we can go to the US. Microsoft

:10:48. > :10:51.should impress and it is looking at how the strong dollar is affecting

:10:52. > :10:57.revenue. The company has been more focused on its cloud business.

:10:58. > :11:01.Amazon will look to beat expectations when it reports

:11:02. > :11:04.fourth-quarter revenue. It is thought to have cornered 43% of

:11:05. > :11:07.online sales in November and December and that combined with

:11:08. > :11:12.strength in cloud computing should have led to strong growth. Ford

:11:13. > :11:18.motor company is expected to announce record profits in 2015. The

:11:19. > :11:22.US Congress department will release data on orders for US manufactured

:11:23. > :11:27.goods which likely slipped in December because of the strong

:11:28. > :11:36.dollar and fall in global demand. As far as financial markets are

:11:37. > :11:39.concerned, in Asia we saw reaction to the Fed statement about interest

:11:40. > :11:46.rates. But they are keeping a close eye on events before they make their

:11:47. > :11:51.next choice on rates. We expect it to go up rather than down.

:11:52. > :11:58.We are keeping an eye on UK GDP figures also today. We asked at the

:11:59. > :12:03.start of the programme how much your personal information was worth,

:12:04. > :12:08.relating to the fact Facebook said it makes $3 73 from each of us on

:12:09. > :12:15.average from information we put on the site. Add that up and it comes

:12:16. > :12:19.to a lot of money. Some comments. Never give correct details, says

:12:20. > :12:23.Jerome Hurel. Protect your security data. Is he

:12:24. > :12:29.really called to Rome?! If you are a product and you are

:12:30. > :12:33.using it for free, you are the product and they are entitled to

:12:34. > :12:38.make that money from you. Alistair says few people know how

:12:39. > :12:44.Facebook generates their revenue, including HMRC. Perhaps like me the

:12:45. > :12:47.best protest is to cancel our Facebook accounts, he says.

:12:48. > :12:53.Another says, perhaps there should be an opt out where Facebook users

:12:54. > :12:57.could pay $4 to opt out from that data being used. Other suggest stop

:12:58. > :13:07.using it. Still to come. Monarch Airlines was

:13:08. > :13:12.close to going under but the company has reinvented itself as a low-cost

:13:13. > :13:25.carrier. That move is paying off. The chief executive will be hair.

:13:26. > :13:34.Stay with us for that. We can bring you more detail now on the figures.

:13:35. > :13:39.We are expecting to get a number of around double .4,. .5%, something

:13:40. > :13:44.consistent with the economy growing at 2%. Not terrible and that not

:13:45. > :13:50.relent. Let me show you where we have been. There is the Big Dipper,

:13:51. > :14:01.the great recession. We have been hovering -- between 2% and 3% -- the

:14:02. > :14:08.big decrease. Recently we have seen service sector is doing well but the

:14:09. > :14:11.bit the government would like to stimulate, manufacturing,

:14:12. > :14:16.construction, have been pretty weak. The march of the makers has not

:14:17. > :14:21.materialised. Manufacture has been weak. Expects the oil price plunge

:14:22. > :14:25.to affect the North Sea, which will have an impact on manufacturing. We

:14:26. > :14:28.expect half a per cent but it will not be the headline number that is

:14:29. > :14:34.interesting, it will be the way it is made up and it will show a

:14:35. > :14:43.picture of a balanced, rebalanced economy. And the cocktail of risks

:14:44. > :14:47.facing the economy, which the Chancellor highlighted. Those are

:14:48. > :14:56.still ringing in the air is of many. -- in the ears. We have seen big

:14:57. > :15:00.market falls and we have had volatile stock markets. Confidence

:15:01. > :15:04.is not running at a high level. Perhaps people are not taking on an

:15:05. > :15:09.extra person, not investing in an extra bit of equipment. At 2%, the

:15:10. > :15:15.Chancellor will say we are hanging in there. He would like to see it

:15:16. > :15:19.more balanced. It is easy to underestimate the effect the North

:15:20. > :15:22.Sea house on the UK manufacturing economy, particularly in north-east

:15:23. > :15:24.Scotland and North East England and I expect it to show up in the

:15:25. > :15:37.numbers. David Cameron has is visiting

:15:38. > :15:43.Aberdeen, this is a real issue for those parts of Scotland but for the

:15:44. > :15:46.industry as a whole in the UK. Extra help is being demanded by the

:15:47. > :15:48.authorities in Scotland when it comes to the help that can be given

:15:49. > :15:56.to Aberdeen. You're watching Business

:15:57. > :16:09.Live - our top story: The energy megamerger. There is

:16:10. > :16:13.expected to be a $49 billion deal today. We will be watching the

:16:14. > :16:18.details. Until then we are going to turn our attention to the airlines.

:16:19. > :16:20.In 2014 - one of the UK's oldest airlines - Monarch -

:16:21. > :16:23.looked like it was on the edge of collapse.

:16:24. > :16:25.But after a rescue deal and more than a year of restructuring.

:16:26. > :16:28.It says its underlying earnings for 2015 will be more

:16:29. > :16:31.So how did the airline manage to turn itself around?

:16:32. > :16:34.Its workers took large pay cuts - and 700 staff were made redundant.

:16:35. > :16:36.It also restructured its routes, axing long-haul services -

:16:37. > :16:43.and instead focusing on becoming a low-cost carrier.

:16:44. > :16:46.With us is Andrew Swaffield, chief executive of Monarch Airlines

:16:47. > :17:02.He has a lot to do with the changes. Thanks are coming on the show. Just

:17:03. > :17:08.to say that when you took over, you were not aware of how bad things

:17:09. > :17:16.were. That's right. I came in and aware of those issues, which turned

:17:17. > :17:19.out to be helpful for me because I think that when you come to try to

:17:20. > :17:26.restructure the company of that size, talking to the workforce, it

:17:27. > :17:29.was helpful that I was nothing to do with the problem and I had not

:17:30. > :17:35.actually been aware of it. We discovered it together. Talk me

:17:36. > :17:49.through that moment you discovered things were quite so bad. What

:17:50. > :17:55.happened? Escape! I had 20 years with British Airways and the parent

:17:56. > :18:04.company. I was not used to being in an environment in that kind of

:18:05. > :18:16.state. My first reaction was that this is going to be very difficult.

:18:17. > :18:30.I was not the CEO at the time. I was number two. From a series of events

:18:31. > :18:35.I was asked to take over. It was as much of an instinct decision as a

:18:36. > :18:43.logical one. We have touched on some of the measures you had to take

:18:44. > :18:48.which were not easy. We know what it is like when bosses try to reshape

:18:49. > :18:53.airline companies. Unions are involved, strike action, problems

:18:54. > :19:05.for the users of the airline, how did you go through that process in

:19:06. > :19:14.such a way that the company came out like that? I think it was in such a

:19:15. > :19:20.way that the owners had made it clear that they were not going to

:19:21. > :19:27.continue owning it and no new owner would buy the company with the cost

:19:28. > :19:31.base that it had. The lack of prospects and profitability. It was

:19:32. > :19:42.about making that clear to the employees and the trade unions, and

:19:43. > :19:46.the great thing about airlines is many of the implied he is our

:19:47. > :19:53.professional. If you take pilots and engineers and cabin crew, they

:19:54. > :19:57.understand if you explain it to them straightforward, they got the

:19:58. > :20:02.message and be understood that the alternative was the company ceasing

:20:03. > :20:07.to exist so they chose that. We spoke in the introduction about this

:20:08. > :20:12.move away from what the company had been towards our low-cost model.

:20:13. > :20:21.What was on that list when you said, these are the things that we've got

:20:22. > :20:27.to cut. It was fairly straightforward to make the

:20:28. > :20:30.decision. That is the future of European aviation. You can see it

:20:31. > :20:35.with the growth of easyJet and Ryanair. The long haul operation

:20:36. > :20:42.only had two Mac planes. It was not scalable. The charter operation was

:20:43. > :20:46.dying. That business has been in decline for years. That was an easy

:20:47. > :20:51.decision and it inspired a lot of other decisions behind it which

:20:52. > :20:55.allowed us to build a new business plan. We are running out of time but

:20:56. > :21:10.I want to ask you a question about being the boss of an airline, safety

:21:11. > :21:18.is on the mind of everybody, tell us about that area of your job. I

:21:19. > :21:23.understand in the industry there is incredible transparency and

:21:24. > :21:29.collaboration between airlines. The aviation industry thrives on

:21:30. > :21:39.openness and we have thorough investigations, and then the

:21:40. > :21:43.industry gets safer. That happened after a previous incident and will

:21:44. > :21:49.happen with the current threat. Aviation is very good at adapting,

:21:50. > :21:55.so whether it is a port security or in the air, it will get safer. It

:21:56. > :22:00.takes safety very seriously. That is one of the reasons why I love it

:22:01. > :22:08.because it is a group of professionals. On that note we shall

:22:09. > :22:11.end the interview. Thank you for coming in.

:22:12. > :22:13.Diageo, the maker of Johhny Walker whisky and Smirnoff vodka says it

:22:14. > :22:16.has increased its global sales, despite the slowdown in China.

:22:17. > :22:19.Major bright spots include the high end market in Africa -

:22:20. > :22:22.where premium brands saw sales surge 65 per cent.

:22:23. > :22:27.Ivan Menezes is the chief executive of the drinks maker,

:22:28. > :22:37.speaking a little earlier he gave us his take on.

:22:38. > :22:46.China is not growing double-digit but it grew a very solid 4%. Africa

:22:47. > :22:52.remains a good opportunity. We are used to volatility in emerging

:22:53. > :22:57.markets, these underlying demographics and the trend towards

:22:58. > :23:01.consumers and the middle-class drinking better, they are intact and

:23:02. > :23:06.that bodes well for the company. We need to stay the course and handle

:23:07. > :23:11.the volatility but I'm pleased that our emerging markets grew. We've got

:23:12. > :23:19.some breaking news about the economy Minister of Japan, he has announced

:23:20. > :23:22.his resignation at a press conference. A lot of attention on

:23:23. > :23:28.Japan. The bank of Japan will be having a very important meeting at

:23:29. > :23:32.the end of this week to decide on monetary policy. A lot of pressure

:23:33. > :23:40.on the Japanese central bank to do more to stimulate the economy. That

:23:41. > :23:49.has just occurred. That came as a surprise because they were hoping he

:23:50. > :23:50.would go to New Zealand to sign a big trade deal. This relates to

:23:51. > :23:59.Braves which he denies. Richard Jeffrey from

:24:00. > :24:11.Cazenove Capital Management Talk with us about the other

:24:12. > :24:19.stories. We are starting with tax. Google and apple have hit back.

:24:20. > :24:23.Google settling with UK authorities and some said it was not as good as

:24:24. > :24:30.it could have been, it is paying a lot more in Italy. This debate will

:24:31. > :24:34.rumble on. I think it will. What we are beginning to see is some

:24:35. > :24:39.international agreement that you cannot tackle these issues of big

:24:40. > :24:44.corporations and where they pay their tax on a country by country

:24:45. > :24:47.basis. It must be done amongst countries. There needs to be

:24:48. > :24:52.agreement with America and the European Union in order to locate

:24:53. > :24:56.where profits are made and insured they are taxed where they are made

:24:57. > :25:02.rather than transferred to lower tax areas. It is quite a step forward. I

:25:03. > :25:06.can imagine the likes of Margaret Hodge and others thinking we are

:25:07. > :25:10.getting there. We are getting there, we are still quite a long way away

:25:11. > :25:16.from where we want to be, but you've got to take the first steps, and

:25:17. > :25:20.they are being taken. It is up to corporations to respond to this and

:25:21. > :25:26.realise the environment is changing, people expect them to pay more

:25:27. > :25:32.taxation. What we need now is a more transparent system so people can

:25:33. > :25:36.quite clearly see where these companies are making profits and

:25:37. > :25:40.where they are being taxed on these profits. Very nice to see you. Short

:25:41. > :25:47.but sweet. That is all for now.