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:00:00. > :00:07.This is Business Live from BBC News, with Ben Thompson

:00:08. > :00:11.Clamping down on corruption - the UK Prime Minister vows to get

:00:12. > :00:16.tough but after describing Nigeria and Afghanistan as fantastically

:00:17. > :00:20.corrupt, can anything really be achieved?

:00:21. > :00:41.Live from London, that's our top story on Thursday the 12th of May.

:00:42. > :00:43.World leaders gather in London to tackle global corruption

:00:44. > :00:45.including measures measures to crackdown on money

:00:46. > :00:47.laundering through UK property and offshore tax havens.

:00:48. > :00:56.We'll assess what might be achieved.

:00:57. > :00:58.Also in the programme, troubled Mitsubishi Motors announces

:00:59. > :01:03.We'll head to our Asia Business Hub for the latest on the deal

:01:04. > :01:08.the Nissan Boss describes as 'win win'.

:01:09. > :01:15.That story helped to boost markets in Japan but it was pretty sluggish

:01:16. > :01:20.stateside. In Europe, all eyes on the latest inflation report from the

:01:21. > :01:24.Bank of England. And what is in a name? We will meet the fashion

:01:25. > :01:28.retailer, Nick Ashley, the son of Welsh fashion designer, Laura

:01:29. > :01:33.Ashley. But is family heritage a help or a hindrance when it comes to

:01:34. > :01:36.business? And arthritic elevator 's and Arctic air-conditioning topped

:01:37. > :01:40.the list of office grapes in the Middle East. Today, we want to know

:01:41. > :01:44.what is the one thing you'd change about workplace? And you can't say

:01:45. > :01:48.your boss! Are you sure it is only one thing? I

:01:49. > :01:57.have a holistic things here. Welcome to the programme,

:01:58. > :01:59.we're starting right here in London today,

:02:00. > :02:01.where tackling corruption is top of the agenda,

:02:02. > :02:03.not least because the UK Prime Minister David Cameron

:02:04. > :02:07.was recorded calling Nigeria and But today it's the anti-corruption

:02:08. > :02:11.summit itself that hopes The UK will examine its role

:02:12. > :02:22.in international corruption often seen as a destination

:02:23. > :02:24.for money laundering territories, which include some

:02:25. > :02:27.of the world's big tax havens. Figures this week from leading

:02:28. > :02:30.economists claim $170 billion a year are lost through tax dodging,

:02:31. > :02:32.and it's the poorest countries Much of this money is channelled

:02:33. > :02:36.into British overseas territories - More than a third of the world's tax

:02:37. > :02:43.havens are British. Then there is London's

:02:44. > :02:46.property market. An estimated 36,000 homes

:02:47. > :02:48.in the capital are owned That is almost 1 in 10

:02:49. > :02:53.properties - just over 9% - in the City of Westminster,

:02:54. > :02:56.and almost as many in Here's what the Prime Minister had

:02:57. > :03:15.to say when he was questioned the Prime Minister Revie appeals

:03:16. > :03:18.from Nigerian campaigners, who say our efforts are sadly undermined if

:03:19. > :03:24.countries such as your own are welcoming our corrupt to hide their

:03:25. > :03:29.ill gotten gains in your department stores, homes, car dealerships and

:03:30. > :03:33.anywhere else that will accept their cash with no questions asked. One of

:03:34. > :03:38.the steps we are taking to make sure foreign companies that own UK

:03:39. > :03:41.property have to declare who the beneficial owner is will be one of

:03:42. > :03:43.the ways we make sure that plundered money from African countries can't

:03:44. > :03:45.be hidden in London. With me is Chido Dunn from

:03:46. > :03:52.the pressure group, Global Witness. Welcome to the programme, the

:03:53. > :03:56.British Prime Minister has called corruption the cancer at the heart

:03:57. > :04:00.of so many of our problems. If corruption is the cancer, what is

:04:01. > :04:04.the treatment? What we have seen as part of that treatment happening

:04:05. > :04:08.today, the world is turning towards transparency but the UK's tax havens

:04:09. > :04:12.are being left behind. So we are seeing some very positive steps from

:04:13. > :04:16.the UK in relation to property and the dirty and corrupt money used to

:04:17. > :04:21.buy it. There are some solutions but not all of them are being achieved.

:04:22. > :04:24.I know you have been very active in campaigning around the property

:04:25. > :04:27.issue, and trying to work out who owns what. What impact do you think

:04:28. > :04:32.that will have on people already owning property held through these

:04:33. > :04:37.offshore companies, and what impact do you think it might have on future

:04:38. > :04:40.investment? We really welcome the fact the primaries to is announcing

:04:41. > :04:43.the fact that the measures he is introducing will apply to offshore

:04:44. > :04:48.companies that already owned property, because ?170 billion is

:04:49. > :04:52.currently owned offshore, and based on our research and that of other

:04:53. > :04:55.organisations, some of that money is definitely the result of corruption

:04:56. > :04:58.or other proceeds of crime. The result it will have on the UK

:04:59. > :05:06.economy will be positive mostly. We have the head of the crime agency

:05:07. > :05:10.saying it will affect house prices. It will deter some investment, but

:05:11. > :05:15.it will keep dirty money out and help people who deserve to own homes

:05:16. > :05:20.here to buy them. There are a lot of people coming to this, financiers,

:05:21. > :05:24.world leaders, lots of campaigners as well. Crucially, the Panamanian

:05:25. > :05:27.government did not get an invitation, after the Panama Papers,

:05:28. > :05:31.and what we found out from them, and also we did not hear from the

:05:32. > :05:36.British Virgin Islands. The tax havens are not at this summit. What

:05:37. > :05:40.kind of message does this send? The tax havens are the key to this

:05:41. > :05:43.corruption problem. As you said, it is a real worry that they haven't

:05:44. > :05:47.engaged in the process of the summit. The primer Nistor has

:05:48. > :05:50.expressed his displeasure at the fact that the British Virgin Islands

:05:51. > :05:55.did not come to the table and enter the sort of agreement he asked for.

:05:56. > :05:59.We would say that it is so important that the tax savings are part of the

:06:00. > :06:03.solution, but they will only really be able to participate if they come

:06:04. > :06:06.and willing to make meaningful changes to their business practices.

:06:07. > :06:11.It is worth stating that not every offshore company is hiding dirty

:06:12. > :06:16.money. There are very legitimately is and why you would use these

:06:17. > :06:21.structures. Absolutely, we are not advocating the end of all corporate

:06:22. > :06:26.structures, it is just secrecy. The use of secrecy to hide identities is

:06:27. > :06:31.being used for nefarious reasons by tax evaders and criminals. But the

:06:32. > :06:36.use of offshore vehicles for tax planning or inheritance planning is

:06:37. > :06:41.financial continue to happen. Chido, thank you for coming in.

:06:42. > :06:44.In other news, Google has announced plans to ban adverts

:06:45. > :06:52.from so-called payday lenders, in a move the company

:06:53. > :06:54.hopes will limit what it calls "a harmful industry".

:06:55. > :06:57.The search giant plans to stop allowing ads for loans due within 60

:06:58. > :07:00.days, or with an interest rate of 36% or higher.

:07:01. > :07:04.Many payday lenders rely on internet searches to generate customers.

:07:05. > :07:06.The likely Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump wants

:07:07. > :07:08.to protect US manufacturing jobs by imposing tariffs

:07:09. > :07:12.He's suggested tariffs of 45% on imported Chinese goods and 35%

:07:13. > :07:21.But trade experts say that would be likely to spark similar moves

:07:22. > :07:27.from other trading partners and damage global trade.

:07:28. > :07:29.German sportswear firm Adidas has said it is ending its sponsorship

:07:30. > :07:31.of English football club Chelsea six years early.

:07:32. > :07:34.Adidas, which has sponsored Chelsea since 2006, said it had reached

:07:35. > :07:37.a mutual agreement to end the deal on 30 June 2017 instead of 2023.

:07:38. > :07:40.The club will have to pay Adidas tens of millions

:07:41. > :07:49.of euros in compensation, but is free to sign a new sponsor.

:07:50. > :07:52.Let's take you to Asia, where the Japanese car makers

:07:53. > :07:55.Mitsubishi and Nissan have confirmed they're in talks over

:07:56. > :08:06.In the last half an hour, the Nissan chief said the company would be

:08:07. > :08:08.taking a 34% stake in Mitsubishi motors, which has been plagued by

:08:09. > :08:11.the emissions scandal. Sharanjit Leyl is in our

:08:12. > :08:13.Asia Business Hub in Singapore. Sharanjit, how significant

:08:14. > :08:21.could this deal be Mitsubishi caught up in that

:08:22. > :08:27.emissions data scandal. But the boss of Nissan says this is a win-win

:08:28. > :08:31.deal. That's right. In fact, they have just been meeting at this press

:08:32. > :08:37.conference in the last half an hour. The deal is apparently worth $2.2

:08:38. > :08:46.billion, and as you say, 34% is the amount that has been suggested. The

:08:47. > :08:51.two chairman essentially in a joint press conference, and Mr Goh and

:08:52. > :08:57.describing it as win-win. Analysts saying that a deal would make sense

:08:58. > :09:02.for both, to help Mitsubishi motors, which has been dogged by a scandal,

:09:03. > :09:03.as well as Nissan, trying to boost its presence in the small car

:09:04. > :09:12.market. The inaccurate tests were flagged up by

:09:13. > :09:13.Nissan's own test produced for it by Mitsubishi.

:09:14. > :09:29.Mitsubishi shares were not trading for much of the day but they have

:09:30. > :09:35.closed up the 16% daily limit, while Nissan's shares have sunk about

:09:36. > :09:42.1.4%. We know Mitsubishi's market value has fallen massively since the

:09:43. > :09:55.scandal first broke. That deal is, we are told, now done. The McKay is

:09:56. > :10:02.rising today. Investors have been spoken -- focusing on that story --

:10:03. > :10:05.the Nicky clear macro we have heard from the force of

:10:06. > :10:15.the boss of Nissan this morning. It is worth noting, despite all of that

:10:16. > :10:18.talk of falling prices, oil has been the best performing asset, up by

:10:19. > :10:23.about a quarter so far this year. A quick look at how Europe is faring,

:10:24. > :10:26.remembered today we get the latest quarterly inflation report from the

:10:27. > :10:31.Bank of England. We will discuss that in a little more detail in a

:10:32. > :10:36.moment, but let's head stateside and find out what is happening on Wall

:10:37. > :10:43.Street. It seems the bad news from American retailers will continue. On

:10:44. > :10:46.Wednesday, Macey said its revenue fell by more than 7% and may have

:10:47. > :10:52.cut their outlook from the full year. Up next, Nordstrom. It has

:10:53. > :10:57.been struggling with weak sales over the last year and the unseasonable

:10:58. > :11:02.weather will not help matters. Many are expecting profits to take a hit.

:11:03. > :11:07.Ralph Lauren will also be reporting a loss, and while they are plagued

:11:08. > :11:10.with some of the same problems, some fashion missteps will mean profits

:11:11. > :11:15.will likely fall for the quarter. The bigger question is what does

:11:16. > :11:18.this mean for the wider retail industry? These results do have

:11:19. > :11:24.people worrying about how much consumers will spend going forward.

:11:25. > :11:25.Despite lower gas prices and a recovering labour market, Americans

:11:26. > :11:28.are not opening their wallets. Joining us is Jane Sydenham,

:11:29. > :11:38.investment director Welcome to the programme. Today will

:11:39. > :11:43.be a big day for the bank of England. The last so-called Super

:11:44. > :11:48.Thursday ahead of the EU referendum vote. What do you think we are

:11:49. > :11:52.likely to hear? Reduced growth forecasts. Growth has been reducing

:11:53. > :11:57.a little bit, partly because there is a bit of worry about the EU

:11:58. > :12:00.referendum, partly because of slowing growth in China, but

:12:01. > :12:05.interestingly inflation has turned positive, because oil prices, as you

:12:06. > :12:07.said, have stopped falling, and actually wages are beginning to rise

:12:08. > :12:14.because employment is relatively faux. That -- relatively full. Mark

:12:15. > :12:19.Carney has already sent some signals that the bank is prepared to support

:12:20. > :12:22.the economy if we were to Brexit, which might push down sterling,

:12:23. > :12:26.might cause a bit of break of confidence in the short-term. He is

:12:27. > :12:30.likely to reinforce that message, I think. Growth forecast down on one

:12:31. > :12:35.hand, inflation forecasts up on the other. What does that tell us about

:12:36. > :12:40.the state of the economy? It is easy to get caught up in these individual

:12:41. > :12:44.reports, what is the bigger picture? We are still growing, that is a good

:12:45. > :12:49.thing. Inflation is positive now, markets were getting very worried

:12:50. > :12:54.about falling prices, which is really a very negative signal, so we

:12:55. > :12:59.are into positive territory, seeing some growth but relatively slow.

:13:00. > :13:05.Quite modest, and I think from that perspective interest rates are not

:13:06. > :13:11.likely to rise soon. Markets are forecasting rates would rise

:13:12. > :13:14.Still to come: Does having family heritage in an industry make

:13:15. > :13:20.We'll be talking to Nick Ashley, the son of Welsh fashion

:13:21. > :13:30.You're with Business Live from BBC News.

:13:31. > :13:32.The phone and broadband provider TalkTalk has said the cyber attack

:13:33. > :13:36.which hit the firm last October has cost over ?40 million and put a dent

:13:37. > :13:40.Mark Turner is a cyber security expert who's been

:13:41. > :13:44.He joins us from our Salford newsroom.

:13:45. > :13:58.it was feared to be a huge leak of data. It actually didn't turn out to

:13:59. > :14:04.be quite as bad as they feared? Back in October, there was a breach of

:14:05. > :14:10.TalkTalk's network. Initially, they came out and said it could have been

:14:11. > :14:20.4 million customers. The subsequent days after that, they came back to

:14:21. > :14:25.the media and said actually it was 157,000 users whose details had been

:14:26. > :14:29.compromised, and about 15,000 users whose bank account details had been

:14:30. > :14:34.leaked. Some of the comments we have been hearing from Dido Harding, the

:14:35. > :14:37.chief exec, she said customers she thinks has really appreciated the

:14:38. > :14:42.way TalkTalk has handled the fallout, and actually the customer

:14:43. > :14:45.chair number, the turnover is actually the lowest in the company's

:14:46. > :14:52.history. So presumably they are doing something right? The chair

:14:53. > :14:57.number is an interesting number, because if you wanted to leave

:14:58. > :15:00.someone like TalkTalk, or any internet or broadband provider, if

:15:01. > :15:03.you decide to do that because they have had a security breach, you need

:15:04. > :15:08.to look at your terms and conditions, and they will probably

:15:09. > :15:12.say you can't leave within the contract period, 12 months, 18

:15:13. > :15:15.months, 24 months. I'm sure there are people who would like to leave

:15:16. > :15:18.TalkTalk because of the way they have handled their client data, but

:15:19. > :15:25.don't because of the fear of a penalty. TalkTalk did say the only

:15:26. > :15:28.people they would let leave without a penalty were people whose bank

:15:29. > :15:32.account details had been compromised, and quite frankly that

:15:33. > :15:35.is not good enough. If my data had been held with any organisation that

:15:36. > :15:37.had been compromised, I feel I should have the right to vote

:15:38. > :15:43.with my feet and take my business elsewhere.

:15:44. > :15:48.Lots of other stories for you this morning. We can't fit them all in on

:15:49. > :15:55.the programme, but they are on the website. ITV reports a 14% rise in

:15:56. > :15:59.quarterly sales. That's always a good indication of how the

:16:00. > :16:01.advertising market is doing. It also said it boosted acquisitions last

:16:02. > :16:11.year, part of its business strategy. You're watching Business

:16:12. > :16:12.Live - our top story, global leaders are gathering

:16:13. > :16:15.in London today to discuss measures It's in a bid to crackdown

:16:16. > :16:18.on money laundering, UK Prime Minister David Cameron has

:16:19. > :16:21.announced that foreign firms will have to declare ownership

:16:22. > :16:29.of any UK property on a register. It has been a rather embarrassingly

:16:30. > :16:34.for the Prime Minister, who was recorded describing two countries as

:16:35. > :16:35.fantastically correct. He will be hoping to be in headlines for

:16:36. > :16:37.reasons today. Now, does having family heritage

:16:38. > :16:40.in an industry make you more likely Do family connections

:16:41. > :16:42.help or hinder? Nick Ashley is the co-founder

:16:43. > :16:44.and creative director at Private White -

:16:45. > :16:46.it's a luxury men's fashion firm, He's the son of Laura Ashley,

:16:47. > :16:50.the Welsh fashion designer Her floral prints became

:16:51. > :16:55.famous around the world. An avid motorcyclist,

:16:56. > :16:57.his clothing line has a distinctively military style -

:16:58. > :17:17.reflecting the man the company I'm pleased to say that he joins us

:17:18. > :17:20.now in the studio. Nice to see you. This is an interesting one. We talk

:17:21. > :17:23.about family connections on the programme a lot and whether they

:17:24. > :17:28.help or hinder. In your case, you have discussed this before about

:17:29. > :17:34.whether a recognisable name, a well-known name in the fashion

:17:35. > :17:37.business, for you, has been a good thing or a hindrance? It is a

:17:38. > :17:44.question of choice. I chose to make it an advantage. They say that you

:17:45. > :17:49.either emulate your parents or you rebel against them. I have emulated

:17:50. > :17:53.my mother, she was a designer, I am a designer. I have rebelled against

:17:54. > :17:58.my father, he was a businessman, do not trust me with your money! That

:17:59. > :18:02.is quite worrying, you are running a company. Both of your parents are

:18:03. > :18:07.very strong people, they had a real eye when it came to costs. You are

:18:08. > :18:15.saying you grew up in a tent, pretty much? My parents, they started their

:18:16. > :18:18.business, they came out of the Second World War, they were trained

:18:19. > :18:21.in living under canvas, but they didn't have any money. They wanted

:18:22. > :18:25.to start a business. All of the money they had, they put into a

:18:26. > :18:31.factory, they brought us up in a tent, next to the factory, just to

:18:32. > :18:40.save on costs. We did eventually move into a rented caravan. We

:18:41. > :18:42.traded up to trailer trash. I'm interested in that point about

:18:43. > :18:48.emulating your mother but rebelling against your father. How does that

:18:49. > :18:52.manifest itself in the way you go about business? What you do

:18:53. > :18:58.differently to your peers? I don't attempt to do any business. I work

:18:59. > :19:05.with James and Mike, the other guys, it is their business, Private White,

:19:06. > :19:08.I just do the design element. I'm not interested in business. I'm

:19:09. > :19:16.interested in people. My father always said we are in the people

:19:17. > :19:22.business, it is all about people. I heard, for someone who has described

:19:23. > :19:29.themselves as an introspective and quite quiet character, you were

:19:30. > :19:32.almost the drummer for The Clash, is that true? They say you should only

:19:33. > :19:38.regret the things you haven't done in life. This is one regret. I had

:19:39. > :19:51.only just come in the 70s, gone into Saint Martin's School of fashion. I

:19:52. > :19:56.was very proud of that. Jo -- Joe Strummer asked me to be in his band,

:19:57. > :20:01.but I didn't do it. And you didn't know how to play the drums? Said, I

:20:02. > :20:04.can't play, he said, it doesn't matter, you look right, we will

:20:05. > :20:16.teach you. All couldn't really play the bass and work for him. -- Paul.

:20:17. > :20:21.I saw the bass guitarist last year. I said, could I have pulled that

:20:22. > :20:26.off, being the drummer? You said, no, the drama really has to pull it

:20:27. > :20:35.together, so I can relax. You said it was about your look, and it is

:20:36. > :20:39.very punk, and that is the way you have taken the fashion line as well.

:20:40. > :20:43.Has that influenced the way you took the business? We all went through

:20:44. > :20:54.that punk period, I wasn't actually punt, I was more rocker because of

:20:55. > :21:03.the biking thing. It is more of an attitude, the punk thing. It is a

:21:04. > :21:12.kind of not giving a beep about anything. I take that through now, I

:21:13. > :21:15.am a very laid-back character. It is certainly working for your business.

:21:16. > :21:18.Thank you for coming in. Really interesting to hear more about your

:21:19. > :21:23.background and how the business is faring.

:21:24. > :21:31.We're going to turn our attention to Brazil. Senators are debating on

:21:32. > :21:33.whether to proceed with the impeachment proceedings against

:21:34. > :21:36.Dilma Rousseff. They have said they want to vote in favour of the move.

:21:37. > :21:37.Any potential suspension would last for six months

:21:38. > :21:39.while her impeachment trial takes place.

:21:40. > :21:42.Camilla Costa has been following the story from Sao Paulo.

:21:43. > :21:48.Brazil is going through one of its worst recessions in decades.

:21:49. > :21:53.President Dilma Rousseff is largely blamed for that, even though she has

:21:54. > :21:57.not herself been accused of corruption or of benefiting from

:21:58. > :22:02.corruption schemes. She has been blamed for what some say are bad

:22:03. > :22:06.economic decisions that may have deepened the Brazilian crisis. Many

:22:07. > :22:11.Brazilians want her out, most of the country. But many are also wondering

:22:12. > :22:18.what might come next, given the fact that many politicians, in the line

:22:19. > :22:23.of succession, even, have been implicated on corruption charges.

:22:24. > :22:27.The Vice President has been implicated in some corruption

:22:28. > :22:32.allegations. The former President of the lower house of Congress, and the

:22:33. > :22:36.leader of the Senate, they have also been charged or heavily implicated

:22:37. > :22:40.in corruption allegations. For many Brazilians, and we do have to bear

:22:41. > :22:44.in mind that Brazilians, historically, have not had much

:22:45. > :22:49.faith in politicians, now they are really trying to think about what

:22:50. > :22:57.exactly and where exactly is a new government going to take us?

:22:58. > :22:58.Jane Sydenham, investment director at Rathbones Investment

:22:59. > :23:12.Big news yesterday afternoon, Three has refused to give up on the 02

:23:13. > :23:16.merger, in spite of the fact that the European regulator has said no?

:23:17. > :23:20.The deal went through as planned, it would be 40% of the market, I can

:23:21. > :23:25.understand why the regulator is intervening. Equally, I understand

:23:26. > :23:30.why they don't want to give up on it, it is a tremendous opportunity

:23:31. > :23:33.to consolidate the market, from a marketing perspective, they would

:23:34. > :23:38.have reached so many more customers. I can see why they might try to find

:23:39. > :23:45.a way through. It interesting, on one hand, you might say the more

:23:46. > :23:48.power one firm has, it could have an impact on prices and investment. On

:23:49. > :23:51.the other hand, the bigger the company, the more money it has to

:23:52. > :23:56.throughout investment, it can use economies of scale to make the

:23:57. > :23:58.market better. It's a fine balance. There was a lot of criticism that

:23:59. > :24:04.the regulator didn't necessarily get it right in this case? I think that

:24:05. > :24:13.is right, should be four competitors or three? What is considered a

:24:14. > :24:17.market, is it Europe, Western Europe? It is what you consider to

:24:18. > :24:21.be the market and how money players are in it. Clearly, the current

:24:22. > :24:25.regulator is moving towards more competitors. There is obviously a

:24:26. > :24:28.worry. There is some evidence from European markets, where there has

:24:29. > :24:31.been a lot of consolidation, that pricing has not come down at the

:24:32. > :24:36.rate it should have done after that has taken place. It is complicated,

:24:37. > :24:41.as you say, but I think there is more evidence that pricing does not

:24:42. > :24:44.fall with insufficient numbers of competitors. I think that seems to

:24:45. > :24:50.be the trend for the time being. Moving on, another story that is in

:24:51. > :25:05.a golf paper, The National. Apparently cold air con and

:25:06. > :25:13.arthritic lifts are the main complaints in the Middle East. What

:25:14. > :25:21.is yours? We have very loud hand dryers in the Lady's toilets. Mice

:25:22. > :25:34.is the biggest problem here! I filmed one, I was about six feet

:25:35. > :25:38.from one this morning. One viewer wants to change the colour of the

:25:39. > :25:44.office, another says she wants to change the manager. Proper heating,

:25:45. > :25:52.a decent staff room, somebody says. One suggests they would burn down

:25:53. > :25:56.their office, not recommended! Thank you for your time. Thanks for your

:25:57. > :25:57.company, full update on the website and across the BBC today. See you

:25:58. > :26:00.soon.