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:00:00. > :00:07.This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson

:00:08. > :00:13.It's flying high, but are there be headwinds on the horizon?

:00:14. > :00:14.Ryanjet says profits are up,

:00:15. > :00:16.but warns of more Brexit uncertainty.

:00:17. > :00:37.Live from London, that's our top story on the 25th July.

:00:38. > :00:40.Ryanair releases their latest results, but the shadow of Brexit

:00:41. > :00:42.looms large over their plans for the future.

:00:43. > :00:45.We'll be speaking to the company's top man money man in just a moment.

:00:46. > :00:47.Also in the programme, what goes up, must come down.

:00:48. > :00:50.Shares in Nintendo, the company behind Pokemon GO tumbles in Tokyo,

:00:51. > :00:53.we're going to find out why investors have cooled on last week's

:00:54. > :01:07.This is what the markets are doing this morning. Optimism on the

:01:08. > :01:09.European markets, after a good session last week. In Asia and the

:01:10. > :01:12.US. We have the details. Augmented reality technology has

:01:13. > :01:15.already swept the globe thanks to the smash-hit smartphone game

:01:16. > :01:18.Pokemon Go. So we'll get the Inside Track on how

:01:19. > :01:21.real-time imaging is revolutionising And as one of the UK's

:01:22. > :01:26.biggest newspapers slumps to a record loss of ?180m,

:01:27. > :01:29.we want to know, do Let us know, just use

:01:30. > :01:50.the hashtag #BBCBizLive. It's a good job it's written in

:01:51. > :01:54.about five places on the screen. The world's second largest budget

:01:55. > :02:01.airline, Ryanair says the UK's decision to leave the EU means

:02:02. > :02:04.that it will "pivot" growth away from the country's airports

:02:05. > :02:06.and instead focus on growing The company made the comments as it

:02:07. > :02:10.announced its latest numbers, a modest a 4% rise in profits

:02:11. > :02:19.for the first quarter of the financial year,

:02:20. > :02:21.bringing in Euro 256 million, But the company insists that it's

:02:22. > :02:26.on track for its best ever year despite the uncertainty surrounding

:02:27. > :02:28.the Uk's vote to leave the European Union, but warned

:02:29. > :02:32.there could be further implications if the UK is unable

:02:33. > :02:34.to negotiate access The referendum result has seen

:02:35. > :02:39.a 10% drop in the value Although Ryanair is an Irish

:02:40. > :02:46.airline, it still makes a lot of its money

:02:47. > :02:49.in pounds and they just aren't worth It's not just the exchange rate

:02:50. > :02:52.that's been affected British airlines still benefit

:02:53. > :02:55.from the EU's single aviation market, giving them

:02:56. > :02:57.unrestricted access to cities The referendum could potentially

:02:58. > :03:05.make it more difficult for companies like Ryanair to fly to Europe

:03:06. > :03:15.from its London-based airports. Neil Sorahan, Ryanair's Chief

:03:16. > :03:27.Financial Officer, joins us now. The big-money man. Good to have you

:03:28. > :03:30.with us. How are you? I am fine. I will let you do some positive at the

:03:31. > :03:37.beginning, some have been telling us this morning, and I know for a fact,

:03:38. > :03:42.Ryanair have a fairly decent, flexible model. The beauty is that

:03:43. > :03:47.if you have a downturn in one area, you can up sticks, move those planes

:03:48. > :03:50.to another area that is doing relatively better, right? Yeah, we

:03:51. > :03:55.operate in 33 different country with just over 350 aircraft in the fleet.

:03:56. > :03:58.The beauty of the model is that we have a low-cost model, more airports

:03:59. > :04:05.searching for our business and aircraft available. We have a lot of

:04:06. > :04:09.flexibility built into the model. There is the positive, flexible

:04:10. > :04:14.business model. I am not too sure how flexible it is going to be when

:04:15. > :04:20.the UK is out of the EU. Something like almost 40% of your flights, I

:04:21. > :04:25.can imagine close to nearly half of your revenue, involves flights in

:04:26. > :04:34.and out of the UK. I would correct you, 28% of our revenue, 21% of our

:04:35. > :04:39.cause offsetting that. It is not as big a financial impact. 28%. Let's

:04:40. > :04:44.rounded up, 30%, that is a big chunk. Almost 40% of your flights,

:04:45. > :04:48.not your revenue but 40% of your flights in and out of the UK, that

:04:49. > :04:54.will be a bit tricky once the UK is out of the EU. No, if you look at

:04:55. > :04:57.it, Aaron, if they leave the EU and they have two negotiate bilaterals

:04:58. > :05:03.with the EU negotiation to travel rights, what would be impacted would

:05:04. > :05:05.be three domestic routes in the UK stopped 1800 routes in the entire

:05:06. > :05:09.network in three of those would be under question. At that stage we

:05:10. > :05:13.would have to decide whether we keep them operating or not or whether we

:05:14. > :05:18.would just get a UK air operated certificate. In the context of 1800

:05:19. > :05:22.routes the network, not hugely significant. UK-based airlines, it

:05:23. > :05:27.does become a bigger issue for them. In as far as a lot of their traffic

:05:28. > :05:30.would be into the EU. Unless the correct bilaterals are put in place,

:05:31. > :05:35.to makes it difficult for them to travel around in Europe. What I am

:05:36. > :05:38.interested in is this concept of pivoting away as we talked about

:05:39. > :05:44.earlier. What it means on the ground. Does it mean less investment

:05:45. > :05:48.in the UK? Yes, as we take delivery of 52 aircraft, they are issuing

:05:49. > :05:52.another 50 next year. The growth rate we would have planned for the

:05:53. > :05:56.UK will lowdown, somewhat. This winter, we will start moving some

:05:57. > :06:00.capacity out of Stansted. We are already a couple of years ahead of

:06:01. > :06:03.our long-term deal with them. While we don't plan to close any routes

:06:04. > :06:07.this winter, we will reduce frequencies on a number of different

:06:08. > :06:16.routes out of Stansted over the winter. Future growth and future

:06:17. > :06:22.revenue growth, bottoms on seats, it is a good number. Other airlines

:06:23. > :06:26.would like it. 95%. That makes it very difficult to grow, you don't

:06:27. > :06:32.have more seats on the plains to sell. Where do you look at growing

:06:33. > :06:36.future revenue? We have a lot of opportunities around Europe. As you

:06:37. > :06:41.said, we have an eye watering load factor, 95% on aircraft in the last

:06:42. > :06:46.quarter. We will consider new to see those load factors being maintained

:06:47. > :06:53.throughout the year, 93% load factor for the year. 2019, we start taking

:06:54. > :06:59.delivery of the Boeing 737, the game changes, as we call them, 4% more

:07:00. > :07:03.capacity, eight extra seats. We can spread our cost of a more passengers

:07:04. > :07:08.and enhance ancillary opportunities. No short places to grow around here.

:07:09. > :07:10.We appreciate your time, thank you very much for joining us. We will

:07:11. > :07:14.talk to you sometime soon. Bank you. Reports say US telecoms giant

:07:15. > :07:19.Verizon is to buy Yahoo's search and advertising operations

:07:20. > :07:20.for $5 billion. Yahoo announced in February

:07:21. > :07:22.it was looking at "strategic alternatives" for its core internet

:07:23. > :07:25.business, but Verizon has declined A formal announcement is expected

:07:26. > :07:34.later today before US markets open China's Huawei has reported a

:07:35. > :07:44.40% jump in first half sales and says it's confident the growth

:07:45. > :07:47.will continue in the The telecoms equipment maker is also

:07:48. > :07:50.China's biggest smartphone maker. But, the company is currently

:07:51. > :07:53.being sued by rival Samsung, which accuses it of

:07:54. > :07:56.copying its designs. Who isn't suing everybody in that

:07:57. > :08:05.industry? You said it so well. European Commission President

:08:06. > :08:07.Jean-Claude Juncker has poured cold water on any ideas of a quick

:08:08. > :08:10.accession of Turkey to the EU. Speaking earlier on French

:08:11. > :08:12.television, Juncker said that Turkey is in no situation to become

:08:13. > :08:15.a member of the EU any time soon. He added a stern warning,

:08:16. > :08:17.saying that if Turkey re-introduced the death penalty,

:08:18. > :08:20.accession talks would be halted Shares in Nintendo have fallen

:08:21. > :08:34.sharply after the Japanese gaming giant said Pokemon Go's success

:08:35. > :08:37.would have a limited impact At one point it was down 18% in

:08:38. > :08:52.Tokyo. Our Business Correspondent, Tim

:08:53. > :09:00.McDonald is in Singapore with more. I'm getting caught under the desk.

:09:01. > :09:04.But to see you. I don't know if they had to make this statement, we had

:09:05. > :09:11.to say. Did they not think this has got legs to carry it further? It's

:09:12. > :09:15.not a matter of Pokemon not being a huge global hit and phenomenon, it

:09:16. > :09:19.is the investors worried they won't see much money from it. Nintendo

:09:20. > :09:24.itself is a bit more removed from Pokemon and perhaps many investors

:09:25. > :09:30.realise. The game is a collaboration between the Pokemon company which

:09:31. > :09:34.owns the licensing rights, it is Pickachu and the US game studio with

:09:35. > :09:38.Nintendo holding it states in those companies. Nintendo reports its

:09:39. > :09:44.first quarter is this week and says the game will not have that much of

:09:45. > :09:48.an impact. Investors are not happy. Nintendo stocks plummeted almost 18%

:09:49. > :09:52.in trading today. Lowest since 1990. It needs to be kept in perspective.

:09:53. > :09:57.Even with today's sell-off, the shares are still up about 60% in the

:09:58. > :10:04.game launched in the US, Australia and New Zealand on July sixth. Thank

:10:05. > :10:08.you. It's my favourite joke, how would you get Pikachu on a bus? You

:10:09. > :10:10.Pokemon. Japan's Nikkei paring back its early

:10:11. > :10:13.gains and ended flat at the start of the week as investors cashed

:10:14. > :10:17.in with abit of profit taking. That is why the numbers in Asia are

:10:18. > :10:20.down slightly. Hopes that the Bank of Japan

:10:21. > :10:23.will unveil more stimulus later this week also boosted the numbers

:10:24. > :10:27.earlier this week. For markets in Europe,

:10:28. > :10:29.they're coming off four consecutive weeks of decent gains,

:10:30. > :10:31.largely driven by the expectation that interest rates are likely

:10:32. > :10:40.to stay lower for longer. Economic data has been

:10:41. > :10:42.better than expected in the last couple of weeks,

:10:43. > :10:45.despite some worries, We'll talk more about that

:10:46. > :10:50.in a moment, but here's Michelle with the details about the day

:10:51. > :10:56.ahead on Wall Street. Prepare for an action-packed week,

:10:57. > :10:59.Wall Street gets a peek at the growth in the second quarter,

:11:00. > :11:02.where GDP figures are released this With the US economy showing signs

:11:03. > :11:08.of improvement, after a weak start to the year, will America's

:11:09. > :11:14.central bank raise interest rates? The Federal Reserve announces

:11:15. > :11:17.its decision on Wednesday. Most investors consider a rate hike

:11:18. > :11:20.unlikely at this time. This Monday, chip-maker

:11:21. > :11:24.Texas Instruments report The recent drop in

:11:25. > :11:27.iPhone sales could put We will hear more from

:11:28. > :11:30.the tech sector this week when big names such as Apple,

:11:31. > :11:33.Facebook and Amazon, among others, Joining us now is Brenda Kelly,

:11:34. > :11:49.an independent market analyst. A familiar face and our friend.

:11:50. > :11:53.Great to have you with us. The big central bank seen again, it

:11:54. > :11:59.continues will stop American central bank meeting this week. Expectations

:12:00. > :12:03.will it do something? Also, bank of Japan, is it going to... I don't

:12:04. > :12:08.know, more stimulus? Negative interest rates already in Japan,

:12:09. > :12:11.despite the fact that you have Corroda lined negative interest

:12:12. > :12:14.rates were possible three days before invoking them. At this

:12:15. > :12:19.particular point it is hard to know what the bank of Japan can do.

:12:20. > :12:23.Helicopter money is one of those areas that has been banded around

:12:24. > :12:27.for a while. It has never been tested, he has denied it is a

:12:28. > :12:32.possibility but loss of credibility in respect of other monetary policy

:12:33. > :12:36.decisions in the past, it could happen. For the time being, Japan's

:12:37. > :12:39.exports were a bit better than were expected in terms of the fall but

:12:40. > :12:44.they have fallen for nine consecutive month in a row. Strong

:12:45. > :12:50.currency we have seen as a result of the risk of in equity markets has

:12:51. > :12:53.led to a strong yen. It did not help exports. Nine consecutive months in

:12:54. > :12:57.April of declining exports in Japan, something will need to happen.

:12:58. > :13:02.Indeed. It will, I should say. We will have to leave it there. Time is

:13:03. > :13:07.short but you will take us through the newspapers. Helicopter money is

:13:08. > :13:10.the bank of Japan injecting money into people's personal bank

:13:11. > :13:13.accounts. These phrases we learnt in the course of this job. We will keep

:13:14. > :13:15.you up-to-date. Still to come,

:13:16. > :13:18.we'll take a closer look at the future for

:13:19. > :13:20.augmented-reality technology. We'll be speaking to the co-founder

:13:21. > :13:22.of a business which hopes to revolutionise the way we search

:13:23. > :13:24.for information online. You're with Business

:13:25. > :13:29.Live from BBC News. And now a look at some

:13:30. > :13:32.of the stories from around the UK. MPs who've examined

:13:33. > :13:34.the collapse of BHS have called its former owner,

:13:35. > :13:36.Sir Philip Green, the "unacceptable

:13:37. > :13:42.face of capitalism". A joint report by the Business

:13:43. > :13:45.and Work and Pensions committees accuses Sir Philip of making

:13:46. > :13:46."incredible wealth on the back of BHS",

:13:47. > :13:49.and in doing so reducing its ability Our Economics Correspondent

:13:50. > :14:05.Andrew Walker joins me now They can say all of that, but can

:14:06. > :14:12.they do anything about it? I didn't hear you. They can say all of

:14:13. > :14:18.this... Accusations against Philip green, but can they do anything? Can

:14:19. > :14:21.they claw back money, can he lose his knighthood? They can certainly

:14:22. > :14:24.make life very uncomfortable for him, do a great deal of damage to

:14:25. > :14:30.his reputation but they have very limited powers. But they can put a

:14:31. > :14:35.certain amount of moral pressure, if you like, on authorities that do

:14:36. > :14:39.have some powers. You mentioned his knighthood, that, we know, is under

:14:40. > :14:45.review. The decision on whether or not it should read stripped from him

:14:46. > :14:48.is one that is basically a recommendation that can be made by a

:14:49. > :14:53.committee of very senior civil servants.

:14:54. > :14:58.It would then be sent on by the Prime Minister to the Queen, who

:14:59. > :15:03.makes the final decision on whether that would happen. It certainly has

:15:04. > :15:08.been, something that has been done on a number of occasions in the

:15:09. > :15:12.past. Fred Goodwin, former chief executive of RBS was one example,

:15:13. > :15:16.but then he was seen by some people as a central player in the near

:15:17. > :15:21.collapse of the British financial system. Other examples have tended

:15:22. > :15:26.to be people convicted of criminal offences, but that is undoubtably an

:15:27. > :15:32.option for the government to consider and I think the strong

:15:33. > :15:38.language of this report does, I suppose, pushed them a little bit

:15:39. > :15:44.further in that direction. OK, good stuff. Andrew, thank you as always.

:15:45. > :15:49.All the data and information we are getting through from those BHS

:15:50. > :15:53.comments are on the business live pages. That damning report by MPs

:15:54. > :15:57.and the collapse of BHS. The important thing at the moment is the

:15:58. > :16:01.staff involved who are not just currently working there, but their

:16:02. > :16:06.pensions. Thousands of pensioners with their money saved in BHS, what

:16:07. > :16:09.future for them? There is a black hole of ?570 million was that many

:16:10. > :16:11.employees with an uncertain future. You're watching Business Live.

:16:12. > :16:21.Our top story: Europe's largest airline by

:16:22. > :16:24.passenger numbers, Ryanair, has reported its latest set of financial

:16:25. > :16:27.figures following Britten's decision to leave the EU.

:16:28. > :16:29.It's net profit rose by 4% compared to the same quarter last

:16:30. > :16:32.year to 256 million Euros, that's $281 million.

:16:33. > :16:41.A quick look at the market boards. Not a huge amount of movement in the

:16:42. > :16:47.markets. It is in Asia where the attention is focused. The exchange

:16:48. > :16:48.rate their... Wall Street had another record close

:16:49. > :16:51.as well. Chances are, you'd never heard

:16:52. > :16:54.of augmented reality until this And now everyone's talking

:16:55. > :17:02.about it, all thanks to the smartphone game Pokemon Go,

:17:03. > :17:06.which has hit the headlines and sent The technology superimposes virtual

:17:07. > :17:18.images onto a real-life feed captured, using a smartphone

:17:19. > :17:21.camera or 3D headset. Aside from games, it's hoped that AR

:17:22. > :17:26.can help provide relevant information to people

:17:27. > :17:28.out-and-about in the real world. When consumers use an app called

:17:29. > :17:34.Blippar, they can point their camera at an object,

:17:35. > :17:37.for example a dog, and the software will provide information

:17:38. > :17:42.about the dog. The company behind Blippar hopes it

:17:43. > :17:47.will provide an alternative Jess Butcher, co-founder

:17:48. > :17:59.of Blippar is with us. Welcome to the programme. Great to

:18:00. > :18:04.have you with us. It sounds... You showed me in the green room what it

:18:05. > :18:13.is. I have to say it is amazing, but what is also amazing... A unicorn.

:18:14. > :18:18.For the uninitiated a company valued at $1 billion before you even go to

:18:19. > :18:24.market. Yes. That is pretty impressive. It is a pretty fluffy

:18:25. > :18:28.term. We don't really discuss our valuation but we are proud to be

:18:29. > :18:35.part of a very small groups of businesses in Europe, and of British

:18:36. > :18:42.tech companies. Most of the big names and big verbs in technology

:18:43. > :18:44.are all West Coast businesses. Our aspiration is there will be a

:18:45. > :18:53.British business to become the next big verbs and we will be Blipping

:18:54. > :18:56.before we know it. We had a go at explaining how it works, talk us

:18:57. > :19:00.through it and why it is so important. We have seen the big rise

:19:01. > :19:07.in Nintendo shares, not just because of the game but the commercial value

:19:08. > :19:11.and what they can do with it. Blippar is a real-world visual

:19:12. > :19:15.browser. You can point a camera at anything in the physical world

:19:16. > :19:20.around you and instantaneously satisfy your curiosity about that.

:19:21. > :19:26.Whether it is pets, food, works of art, buildings, the natural world,

:19:27. > :19:30.you can find out whatever your general curiosity will be about that

:19:31. > :19:36.image or object. That is very powerful, a new form of discovery, a

:19:37. > :19:41.new form of search and one that doesn't require language. In

:19:42. > :19:45.traditional searches you need to type in the question to find the

:19:46. > :19:50.answer. Blippar allows the ability to look at anything and bring it to

:19:51. > :19:54.life. That has massive ramifications for how people go about their daily

:19:55. > :19:58.lives, simply extracting information and putting the Internet on the

:19:59. > :20:03.physical world around us. For brands and advertisers who on much of that

:20:04. > :20:06.physical world, there is a huge opportunity for very contextually

:20:07. > :20:12.putting their message in that place at that time, whether it is a dog

:20:13. > :20:15.food next to a dog, for example. Our priority is to make sure the

:20:16. > :20:18.information the consumer is getting his most relevant and likely to

:20:19. > :20:24.answer whatever that spontaneous curiosity might be. How much of this

:20:25. > :20:28.is a change of mindset? To get people away from searching by text?

:20:29. > :20:32.I suppose it is just a habit, to get people to hold up their phone to

:20:33. > :20:37.search for something? Sure. There is a new behaviour and that is our

:20:38. > :20:41.biggest challenge, to get people looking and unlocking the world in

:20:42. > :20:45.that way. The phone is a visual medium, it is all ready out. The

:20:46. > :20:53.photo -based businesses are the most successful in the world right now.

:20:54. > :20:57.We are taking selfies, snapchatting. We are a very visual human race and

:20:58. > :21:01.looking at everything. It is not that big a leap of faith that

:21:02. > :21:10.behaviour will happen. Pokemon go is massive. It must've been a godsend.

:21:11. > :21:14.A game changer for us in terms of adopting AR and understanding what

:21:15. > :21:18.it is. Our biggest complaint about the AR space is it won't get there

:21:19. > :21:24.until Rivera VR headsets on the hardware has come up to scratch. We

:21:25. > :21:32.wasted the phone is capable of this. Pokemon Go, there has never been so

:21:33. > :21:39.many downloads. Can I just ask you, you, co-founder, five years, how did

:21:40. > :21:48.you get into this? Have you always been a techie? I studied ancient

:21:49. > :21:52.history! So no, but I love technology, I love disruption and

:21:53. > :21:56.disruption is happening in tech right now. My desire is to affect

:21:57. > :22:03.behavioural change and that is what Blippar is trying to do. I'm all

:22:04. > :22:12.about the translation of that tech in a way that is meaningful for

:22:13. > :22:16.translators. I am the marketer and communications expert on our team,

:22:17. > :22:23.with some very smart technology people behind me. Blipping, I love

:22:24. > :22:28.it! We will continue the conversation later on Facebook live.

:22:29. > :22:39.But for now, thank you, Jess. In a moment we'll take a look

:22:40. > :22:41.through the Business Pages, but first here's a quick reminder

:22:42. > :22:47.of how to get in touch with us. Stay ahead of the breaking news,

:22:48. > :22:50.we'll keep you up-to-date with the latest details with insight and

:22:51. > :22:54.analysis from the BBC's team of editors from around the world. We

:22:55. > :23:03.want to hear from you. Get on the BBC live web page. You can also get

:23:04. > :23:09.in touch on Twitter, and on Facebook. Business Live on TV and

:23:10. > :23:16.online whenever you need to know. Michelle with the details on how to

:23:17. > :23:22.get in touch. Brenda is back to talk us through some of the papers. The

:23:23. > :23:28.Guardian, an important newspaper, one of the biggest newspapers in the

:23:29. > :23:32.UK. Expected to see a record loss of ?170 million. We asked people at the

:23:33. > :23:36.start of the programme to get in touch, and see if you still buy a

:23:37. > :23:40.newspaper. One says I don't buy one but its very one that the

:23:41. > :23:45.supermarket. She said it is great for a paint job or wrapping things.

:23:46. > :23:52.Another says, I have bought the express for the last 60 years. Let

:23:53. > :23:56.us know. Do you? I do on a Sunday, I prefer a Sunday newspaper. Every

:23:57. > :24:02.single day I would be more about online. The Guardian is free online.

:24:03. > :24:06.And it is out of date so quickly. The way news changes these days, if

:24:07. > :24:13.you're looking at it on Facebook or Twitter, it is out of date. Yes, I

:24:14. > :24:17.look at social media as well. I prefer the feel of a newspaper or a

:24:18. > :24:23.book in hand, but it is starting to bite. It will have a record loss of

:24:24. > :24:26.?173 million, the Guardian group, when it announces on Wednesday.

:24:27. > :24:30.Despite the fact there has been a lot of cost-cutting and taken

:24:31. > :24:36.restructuring charges and tried up the ante in of digital advertising,

:24:37. > :24:40.they are still seeing a massive fall off in its normal print advertising.

:24:41. > :24:47.It will be interesting for the newspaper story here. Even the FT is

:24:48. > :24:52.likely to see a drop back and there Brexit scenarios likely to impact

:24:53. > :24:57.there advertising revenue as companies hold off. Switching gears

:24:58. > :25:02.but staying somewhat, this is the challenge the print. If we talk

:25:03. > :25:09.about Yahoo. They mention of February they wanted to flog its

:25:10. > :25:13.core business. The US telecoms giant, we are expecting an

:25:14. > :25:20.announcement today, $5 billion. Is it a good deal for everyone involved

:25:21. > :25:24.Chris Wratt Yahoo have lost a lot of market share. They haven't really

:25:25. > :25:30.had a lot of focus, despite the fact they have been through several CEOs

:25:31. > :25:40.and the last few years. It with seem to have reached the end of its line.

:25:41. > :25:44.It will sell part of its company to Verizon. It is going to be quite a

:25:45. > :25:53.big company and it will take advantage of a lot of content Yahoo

:25:54. > :25:59.already has. Yahoo and AOL, two massive names. Yes. Thank you for

:26:00. > :26:03.your company today. Same time and place tomorrow with business Live.