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:00:00. > :00:09.This is Business Live from BBC News with Sally Bundock and Ben Thompson.

:00:10. > :00:13.The UK Finance Minister gets set to announce billions

:00:14. > :00:15.of pounds of new government spending amid forecasts

:00:16. > :00:24.Live from London, that's our top story on Wednesday,

:00:25. > :00:43.Increased funds will go to infrastructure,

:00:44. > :00:47.research and those who are just managing, but will the national

:00:48. > :00:56.Also in the programme - rumours Facebook is working

:00:57. > :00:58.on censorship software to accommodate China's data requests

:00:59. > :01:00.- the company has neither confirmed nor denied the reports -

:01:01. > :01:09.Markets in Europe are mixed today, but everybody is celebrating on Wall

:01:10. > :01:13.Street as the Dow goes above 19,000 for the first time.

:01:14. > :01:21.The oil giant Shell serves 20 million customers a day

:01:22. > :01:23.in its retail outlets that are attached to petrol stations.

:01:24. > :01:26.So are they really a one-stop shop and what will the forecourt

:01:27. > :01:38.It's Black Friday soon but some brands are scrapping big reductions.

:01:39. > :01:41.We want to know, do you still wait for the sales?

:01:42. > :01:51.Let us know - use the hashtag BBCBizLive.

:01:52. > :01:59.The UK's Autumn Statement, which is just the Budget,

:02:00. > :02:03.will be announced in a few hours' time.

:02:04. > :02:06.It's especially important this time around because it's the first

:02:07. > :02:13.fiscal plan that's been unveiled since Brexit.

:02:14. > :02:18.And the UK leaving the EU means specific challenges

:02:19. > :02:20.that the Government will have to face head-on.

:02:21. > :02:23.Phillip Hammond is likely to pledge increased

:02:24. > :02:40.?5 billion or $6.2 billion is the number being mentioned.

:02:41. > :02:43.That's modest compared to say Donald Trump's one trillion dollars

:02:44. > :02:46.Another area likely to get a cash infusion is research

:02:47. > :02:53.and development in the science and tech sectors.

:02:54. > :02:55.?2 billion - nearly two and half billion dollars -

:02:56. > :02:57.will go to the industry, which is being touted

:02:58. > :03:00.by the Government as a long term investment strategy

:03:01. > :03:04.But the money to pay for this has to come from somewhere.

:03:05. > :03:07.The government is likely to borrow ?100 billion over

:03:08. > :03:25.With me in the studio is Kate Andrews, the news editor

:03:26. > :03:29.at Institute of Economic Affairs, a conservative leaning think-tank

:03:30. > :03:33.and in our Business newsroom our business editor Simon Jack.

:03:34. > :03:40.Kate, if we look at what the Chancellor has to give away, there

:03:41. > :03:45.is not much money in the pot? There is not a lot of wiggle room, is

:03:46. > :03:48.there? Growth forecasts are down according to the Office for Budget

:03:49. > :03:52.Responsibility and he is looking at higher inflation figures which is

:03:53. > :03:55.why I think we are seeing stranger things in this Budget that have been

:03:56. > :03:58.released. For example the big headlines are the fact that he is

:03:59. > :04:02.going to try to ban letting fees this. Is something where the

:04:03. > :04:05.Chancellor can come in and not have to commit any of his spending to

:04:06. > :04:09.doing something that seems like he's trying to help those who are just

:04:10. > :04:13.managing, but this is him basically skirting around the issue of the

:04:14. > :04:16.housing crisis. He is not really in a position at the moment where he

:04:17. > :04:20.can be flexible or bold in a lot of his statements. He has a looming

:04:21. > :04:25.deficit and a debt that he's going to have to tackle. Simon Jack, Kate

:04:26. > :04:29.outlining that there is not a lot of money really in the pot to be

:04:30. > :04:32.distributed and also coming in that era of slowing economic growth.

:04:33. > :04:37.That's what everyone will be keeping a really close eye on, won't they,

:04:38. > :04:41.the forecasts? The news from today's Autumn Statement will be just

:04:42. > :04:45.exactly how bad the public finances look over the coming years. Now

:04:46. > :04:49.remember the original plan as early as just as soon as March of this

:04:50. > :04:53.year, was that the Government wouldn't have to borrow any machine

:04:54. > :04:57.at all by 2020. In fact, it would be getting more in in taxes than it was

:04:58. > :05:02.spending. That's been ditched that as unrealistic. What we are going to

:05:03. > :05:05.be looking at out for is how much money they will be borrowing per

:05:06. > :05:10.year by the end of the Parliament. Some of the number crunchers reckon

:05:11. > :05:14.it will be ?25 billion per year, that's adding ?25 billion every year

:05:15. > :05:17.to a debt pile that the Chancellor has already called eye watering. So

:05:18. > :05:21.what will be interesting is his language about about when he wants

:05:22. > :05:26.to balance the books and over what time frame? It will not be some

:05:27. > :05:30.date, it will be an aspiration, expect a lot of aspirations today

:05:31. > :05:34.because aspirations are free and spend something not! Kate, do you

:05:35. > :05:38.think he would hold back today, Philip Hammond, in terms of what he

:05:39. > :05:43.may or may not announce, because he wants to wait for a Budget before an

:05:44. > :05:46.election in 2020 and also a Budget that's during or after Brexit

:05:47. > :05:50.negotiations? Certainly, well Brexit is that huge question mark, the UK

:05:51. > :05:55.a net ?10 billion back. That it a net ?10 billion back. That it

:05:56. > :05:59.would be normally paying to the EU, but it is not obvious that he will

:06:00. > :06:02.have that money yet to play with depending on the relationship with

:06:03. > :06:06.the EU going forward, some of that money might be going to the EU to

:06:07. > :06:09.buy into the single market, perhaps. There is a big question mark for him

:06:10. > :06:14.around what figures he is going to have to play with going forward, but

:06:15. > :06:19.we should be concerned about the fact that the da debt is estimated

:06:20. > :06:25.to be around 90% of the UK's annual GDP. It is staggering and it is not

:06:26. > :06:28.money that can be put off forever. At some point future generations

:06:29. > :06:33.will be taxed and borrowing will impact us and with Brexit looming

:06:34. > :06:37.and everything, it is a gamble to be borrowing this much at this time.

:06:38. > :06:42.Simon, the question is how much this is going to cost us as a result of

:06:43. > :06:45.the vote to leave the EU? The very wildly ranging forecasts of what

:06:46. > :06:53.that could mean? Yes, I think it will be tempting to look at the

:06:54. > :06:57.March Budget and the way the OBR set out its plans there and look at this

:06:58. > :07:02.one and compare the two and say the difference is the cost of Brexit and

:07:03. > :07:07.over the next five years some will say that's ?100 billion. Economies

:07:08. > :07:09.are dynamic things. It is difficult to ascribe one things. Are

:07:10. > :07:15.businesses investing bes because of Brexit? Probably. Is inflation going

:07:16. > :07:18.to be higher because of breaks snit Yes, because of the fall in the

:07:19. > :07:22.pound. In today's forecast we will show that growth for this year looks

:07:23. > :07:26.like it will come in exactly on target and yet we already know he's

:07:27. > :07:30.going to miss his borrowing targets this year. Even when growth is on

:07:31. > :07:33.target you can still miss your borrowing forecasts. So that Iing

:07:34. > :07:38.that it is to do with Brexit, we have to be careful about how much we

:07:39. > :07:43.definite ascribe to one phenomenon. Simon, thank you very much indeed.

:07:44. > :07:45.Kate Andrews, news editor at the Institute of Economic Affairs,

:07:46. > :07:49.really good to talk to you, thank you very much.

:07:50. > :07:52.There is more on the website from the Autumn Statement. Special

:07:53. > :07:55.coverage from our team who will stay across the announcements as they are

:07:56. > :07:58.made. Special details there on the BBC News website. Just look for the

:07:59. > :08:04.Autumn Statement 2016 section. Lufthansa has cancelled almost 900

:08:05. > :08:07.flights after it lost a last-ditch The two-day strike began

:08:08. > :08:17.at midnight local time. Lufthansa says about 100,000

:08:18. > :08:21.passengers will be affected. The industrial action is part

:08:22. > :08:26.of a long-running dispute involving 14 strikes in the past

:08:27. > :08:29.two and a half years. Three Australian employees

:08:30. > :08:30.of gambling group Crown Resorts, who were detained in China last

:08:31. > :08:33.month, have been formally arrested. The three were among 18 Crown staff

:08:34. > :08:36.held after a police operation, believed to target Crown's

:08:37. > :08:38.marketing activities. Casino gambling and promoting

:08:39. > :08:40.gambling abroad are The Japanese car maker Toyota

:08:41. > :09:03.is recalling more than 800,000 minivans in North America over

:09:04. > :09:05.concerns the sliding doors could open while

:09:06. > :09:07.the vehicle is moving. The recall affects Sienna

:09:08. > :09:09.minivans from 2011 to 2016. Toyota says it is still developing

:09:10. > :09:11.a fix for the problem. Sally, you came up with a good fix?

:09:12. > :09:18.I thought a lock might work well! The New York Times is reporting

:09:19. > :09:21.Facebook has been working on a tool that could pave the way

:09:22. > :09:23.for censoring certain content if the network

:09:24. > :09:27.was ever to launch in China. Facebook has not confirmed or denied

:09:28. > :09:32.the software's existence, It is learning more

:09:33. > :09:46.about the country. Robin, tell us more about what

:09:47. > :09:55.Facebook is supposedly thinking through? Well, the big question for

:09:56. > :10:00.Facebook, it has one billion users, where does it get the next one

:10:01. > :10:03.billion from? Facebook looks like that. You can't get it because it

:10:04. > :10:13.hasn't been in this country since 2009. Mark Zuckerberg has a possible

:10:14. > :10:18.solution. The potential here is vast. He met the president, we have

:10:19. > :10:23.seen him running through the smog during visits in Beijing and we have

:10:24. > :10:28.evidence, some might say in reports in the New York Times that Facebook

:10:29. > :10:33.is trying to develop software which will allow it to exist in China and

:10:34. > :10:39.exist by new rules and new laws that China insists on having if social

:10:40. > :10:42.media giants are allowed to be here. That software will allow, according

:10:43. > :10:49.to the New York Times certain content to be blocked from specific

:10:50. > :10:53.geographic areas. Facebook and other social media giants do take down

:10:54. > :11:00.some content, but this would allow third party actors, other companies,

:11:01. > :11:03.to remove content at the behest of the Chinese Government. Very

:11:04. > :11:11.interesting. Robin, thank you for filling us in.

:11:12. > :11:20.Tell us what you think about that. Use the hashtag BBC Biz Live.

:11:21. > :11:25.Most of the markets in Asia were higher. You can see hong don'ting

:11:26. > :11:29.down at the close. The big story is the Dow. Going above 19,000 for the

:11:30. > :11:33.first time, closing above that. You can see behind me there and all

:11:34. > :11:37.markets in the US were at record levels at the close on Wall Street.

:11:38. > :11:41.Let's look at Europe right now. Just to give you a sense of how the day

:11:42. > :11:47.is progressing. All higher at the moment. It is a really interesting

:11:48. > :11:51.time we're in. Is it a bubble we're experiencing in share markets? We

:11:52. > :12:02.will talk about why we had a good session on Wall Street.

:12:03. > :12:06.Here is Samira. Trading volumes will be light, but before carving the

:12:07. > :12:10.turkey, there are a few bits of economic news to chew on the durable

:12:11. > :12:16.goods orders for the month of October are expected to increase

:12:17. > :12:22.1.5%. But non defence related capital goods orders are expecting

:12:23. > :12:27.up 0.2%. Now, this is actually a closely watched number as it gives

:12:28. > :12:34.us an idea of how businesses maybe planning on spending money going

:12:35. > :12:42.forward. And new home sales, increase 0.3% in October.

:12:43. > :12:53.Agriculture and construction equipment maker Deer are are

:12:54. > :12:58.expected to report lower earnings due to a fall in products.

:12:59. > :13:06.Mike Amey, Managing Director and Portfolio Manager at PIMCO is here

:13:07. > :13:11.People were reluctant to commit their money before the election

:13:12. > :13:15.because of the uncertainty created over previous, you know, political

:13:16. > :13:19.events, Brexit for example. So I think there was money on the side

:13:20. > :13:24.and the two things that happened really has been the focus from the

:13:25. > :13:28.Trump campaign about Government spending and that's obviously helped

:13:29. > :13:34.US stock markets. A bit of money on the side. But the two together and

:13:35. > :13:38.there you go. Above 19,000. That's right. The challenge at this point

:13:39. > :13:42.is do we keep going up or do we take a pause for breath as you mentioned?

:13:43. > :13:47.The pause for breath could be the Fed move next month, do you think or

:13:48. > :13:51.not? What will be the reaction when from interest rates go up next month

:13:52. > :13:55.which most people believe they will? So we and most other people expect

:13:56. > :13:58.the Fed to raise rates next month which will be the second time

:13:59. > :14:03.they've done it. We get minutes today, don't we? We do. I think

:14:04. > :14:06.really what investors think about is on the one hand with Trump you have

:14:07. > :14:10.this positive, you know, Government spending story. On the other, you

:14:11. > :14:15.have this kind of withdrawing from global trade and all those aspects

:14:16. > :14:19.of the Trump policy. The markets are focussed on fiscal spending. If we

:14:20. > :14:23.get more focus on the trade then things could become a bit more

:14:24. > :14:27.challenging. Mike, for now, thank you.

:14:28. > :14:37.The oil giant has more shops around the world

:14:38. > :14:39.than Starbucks or MacDonald's and with low oil prices

:14:40. > :14:41.squeezing petrol income, it's looking elsewhere

:14:42. > :14:47.You're with Business Live from BBC News.

:14:48. > :14:52.Thomas Cook has reported a ?41 million fall in profits

:14:53. > :14:56.after what it called a difficult year for tourism after terror

:14:57. > :15:02.Theo Leggett has been looking at the figures,

:15:03. > :15:15.We saw it with easyJet, and this time Thomas Cook. That is true, but

:15:16. > :15:20.look at my graph, see what has happened to Thomas Cook's share

:15:21. > :15:24.price, up 9%. That is a strong reaction, because investors believe

:15:25. > :15:29.that things could have been a long worse. If you look at their

:15:30. > :15:33.underlying profits today, ?308 million earned in the year against

:15:34. > :15:38.310 million last year, which flatters things a little, because of

:15:39. > :15:42.the effects of the fall in sterling, which massaged the figure is a bit.

:15:43. > :15:47.If you strip that out, there is a fall of ?41 million. They had to

:15:48. > :15:53.deal with a number of outside factors, especially a fall in demand

:15:54. > :15:57.in travel to Turkey, one of its major destinations, especially for

:15:58. > :16:01.its German business, and it saw a drop in numbers to Egypt and

:16:02. > :16:07.Tunisia, but they have been working hard to move their destinations away

:16:08. > :16:11.from the eastern Mediterranean and more towards the western

:16:12. > :16:15.Mediterranean, the Spanish islands, for example. It was prepared for a

:16:16. > :16:21.drop-off in passenger numbers to areas like Turkey. Therefore it has

:16:22. > :16:29.done better than expected, and as you can see, investors are quite

:16:30. > :16:35.happy about that. The latest results ad. As the owner pointed out, shares

:16:36. > :16:40.going up and up, at a time expected. They could look at our page,

:16:41. > :16:44.dominated by events today, it is all about the Autumn Statement in the

:16:45. > :16:49.UK. And not from our colleagues at BBC Radio 4. The Chancellor to

:16:50. > :16:53.gloomy about the economy, apparently, but infrastructure

:16:54. > :16:56.projects are on the cards. What that could mean in terms of jobs and

:16:57. > :17:02.economic growth. We are right across this for you,

:17:03. > :17:09.you can follow Simon Jack, and others, on Twitter. The live page

:17:10. > :17:12.will be updating throughout the speech. I have been told it will be

:17:13. > :17:14.a short one. Due to kick off at 12:30pm, full

:17:15. > :17:18.coverage on the BBC. The UK's Finance Minister is poised

:17:19. > :17:29.to announce billions of pounds' worth of new Government spending,

:17:30. > :17:41.but is Britain's national-debt We will have the forecasts for

:17:42. > :17:43.economic growth as well. We will stay across that for you.

:17:44. > :17:45.In a world of falling oil prices and squeezed profit margins,

:17:46. > :17:48.the companies selling it are increasingly looking for other

:17:49. > :17:50.And that's clear on the petrol-station forecourt.

:17:51. > :17:54.Shell runs the biggest single chain of petrol stations,

:17:55. > :17:58.it's got around 43,000 around the world.

:17:59. > :18:03.Close behind are China's state-owned Sinopec, Exxon Mobil and BP.

:18:04. > :18:05.Shell is increasingly using those sites to sell

:18:06. > :18:12.It got through 250 million cups of coffee last year

:18:13. > :18:21.In fact, in the US it's come full circle, and the stores now dominate.

:18:22. > :18:24.Around 80% of all motor fuel bought in the US is sold in

:18:25. > :18:37.Istvan Kapitany is the executive vice president at Shell Retail.

:18:38. > :18:46.Good morning. Good start, I got your name right! You were smiling when we

:18:47. > :18:51.talked about how much coffee and drinks you sell, but it is an

:18:52. > :18:55.important point, an important source of revenue. How has that changed? It

:18:56. > :19:00.is rapid change in the last ten years. 35% of the customers who are

:19:01. > :19:03.coming to the 44,000 service coming to the 44,000 service

:19:04. > :19:07.stations around the world are buying fuel only, and 50% of them are

:19:08. > :19:18.buying convenience retail items, like offing. In the UK we have the

:19:19. > :19:23.biggest Costa Coffee chain, almost every Shell service station has won.

:19:24. > :19:27.That is really growing, we are introducing it in more countries,

:19:28. > :19:33.with global partners. I can see how drinks and food are ages for fit,

:19:34. > :19:40.because people wanted on the go. But you can also pick up strange things,

:19:41. > :19:46.flowers, call for your fire, although anybody buying flowers from

:19:47. > :19:51.a petrol station will get it for -- in the neck! But they are not

:19:52. > :19:55.convenient things. It is growing, it is interesting how habits are

:19:56. > :20:04.changing. In many countries, we are starting to sell what we should have

:20:05. > :20:09.been selling for a long time. Steak and kidney pie in the UK! We are

:20:10. > :20:14.still working on the fish and chips programme! We need to become more of

:20:15. > :20:19.a convenience outlet around the world. That is what the Gucci must

:20:20. > :20:24.tell us, the reason why be do this is not just because of the oil price

:20:25. > :20:29.being low, because it is what the Gucci must would like. You have had

:20:30. > :20:35.a challenging recent couple of years, the cost of lower oil prices,

:20:36. > :20:40.and many of the kickabout Lolo oil forever now, so that is a world you

:20:41. > :20:45.have to get used to. But also, how we are moving around this changing,

:20:46. > :20:49.the driverless vehicles conversation, electric vehicles, all

:20:50. > :20:52.of that kind of thing. How will you change? What will you do to

:20:53. > :20:58.accommodate those changes in the future? These changes are not

:20:59. > :21:04.entirely new, some of the elements are, but if you look around the

:21:05. > :21:08.world, we are selling biofuel, we are the number one in the world. We

:21:09. > :21:15.are the only company which produces second-generation biofuel, it is

:21:16. > :21:20.very environmentally friendly. We are selling petrol and diesel, more

:21:21. > :21:25.and more, with all of the changes, we need to adapt, so we are at the

:21:26. > :21:29.forefront of building hydrogen service station networks in Germany

:21:30. > :21:39.and the US, and we are starting in the UK next year. Hydrogen -- one

:21:40. > :21:48.fella is three minutes, so it is a good proposition. As you move into

:21:49. > :21:54.that realm, hydrogen, biofuel or a battery change, cost is important.

:21:55. > :21:58.From that point of view, I assume you are in a position of strength,

:21:59. > :22:07.it is a brand we all know, wherever we are. It is more than 100 years,

:22:08. > :22:10.it is a trusted brand, we have a strong brand preference, almost a

:22:11. > :22:17.quarter of the world's motorists say, we prefer Shell. Where ever we

:22:18. > :22:22.go and start with electric charging, there is a trust, because they know

:22:23. > :22:26.we put research and technology behind it, we are spending $1.1

:22:27. > :22:31.billion on research and development in the company, this is their sense

:22:32. > :22:37.of the company technically. We are well prepared, and we are trying to

:22:38. > :22:44.participate in shaping this. In hydrogen, electric charging we have

:22:45. > :22:49.in Norway and Russia and Spain, and we are starting in the UK. What is

:22:50. > :22:53.the one thing I can buy at one of your forecourt that I cannot buy

:22:54. > :22:59.now? It will be the fish and chips, hopefully avoid you! It is a global

:23:00. > :23:05.programme, we have that everywhere in the world! I will hold you to

:23:06. > :23:06.that! If you are wondering, Hungary. Hence

:23:07. > :23:10.the name. In a moment, we'll take a look

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:23:51. > :24:04.This is a story we asked if he was about, big sales are getting smaller

:24:05. > :24:09.at department stores, Black Friday is traditionally the time when they

:24:10. > :24:13.sell things cheaper, it is ready for Christmas and Thanksgiving, but

:24:14. > :24:21.maybe not so much any more? Classically, we think sales on Black

:24:22. > :24:26.Friday, but some of the core brands are resisting. In the department

:24:27. > :24:30.stores, they say, I don't want to go on discount, I want to maintain my

:24:31. > :24:34.price premium, and I will take the lower volume. A tug-of-war between

:24:35. > :24:40.the department store and the brands in the store. For years, we have

:24:41. > :24:48.been told it is relentless pressure and competition, so maybe there is a

:24:49. > :24:54.bit of... Chris is challenging my attitude, he says, sales are of no

:24:55. > :24:58.interest at all, nasty, cheap, unwanted stock and hideous queues.

:24:59. > :25:02.Utter madness. Happy Wednesday morning! But it is all of those

:25:03. > :25:09.images that we see. That's talk about Eurostar, operating between

:25:10. > :25:17.Continental Europe and the UK, is axing 20 trains a week between

:25:18. > :25:23.London and Brussels. Sadly, some of this is related to a fall in tourism

:25:24. > :25:29.for that particular route. The number of daily trains will go down

:25:30. > :25:36.from nine to seven. There will be more flights from London to

:25:37. > :25:42.Brussels. That is interesting. Not super environmentally friendly. If

:25:43. > :25:45.you read the comments, it is not lost on many people, talking about

:25:46. > :25:50.the gravy train to Brussels. Maybe that is finally drying up. Not my

:25:51. > :25:55.view, just the view of some of those comments underneath.

:25:56. > :25:58.Thank you for your company, have a good day. Children for the Autumn

:25:59. > :26:08.Statement. See you later. Goodbye.

:26:09. > :26:13.The last few days have seen some extreme weather around the country.

:26:14. > :26:19.Over four inches of rain in the south-west of England. Scenes of

:26:20. > :26:21.flooding in the south-west. More recently further north as well, into

:26:22. > :26:22.parts of northern