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:00:00. > :00:00.This is Business Live from BBC News with Rachel Horne

:00:00. > :00:09.The leader of the world's biggest economy gets ready

:00:10. > :00:14.What will the world make of the Obama legacy?

:00:15. > :00:33.Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday 10th January.

:00:34. > :00:37.The US economy has grown, but wage growth has lagged behind.

:00:38. > :00:40.We'll assess the impact of the Obama Presidency.

:00:41. > :00:44.We also have news from the world's second-biggest economy.

:00:45. > :00:47.The goods it makes might be about to get more expensive.

:00:48. > :01:01.Stay tuned to find out what that could mean for you.

:01:02. > :01:03.The Ftse chalked up its tenth straight daily session

:01:04. > :01:07.Are you taking a break from the booze after the excesses

:01:08. > :01:10.We'll meet one man who hopes to turn abstinence into

:01:11. > :01:18.But can non-alcoholic drinks really take over from the real thing?

:01:19. > :01:22.During yesterday's metro strike in London, Uber prices

:01:23. > :01:27.Are companies right to reflect increased demand?

:01:28. > :01:33.Or do price hikes leave you feeling ripped off?

:01:34. > :01:50.There are just a couple of weeks of Barack Obama's Presidency

:01:51. > :01:56.remaining, and later today he gives his big farewell speech.

:01:57. > :01:58.As well as being commander in chief he's also overseen

:01:59. > :02:01.the world's biggest economy for the last eight years.

:02:02. > :02:08.Well, since his inauguration in January 2009 more than 11 million

:02:09. > :02:11.jobs have been added, with the unemployment rate

:02:12. > :02:20.It peaked at 10.0% in Obama's first year in power.

:02:21. > :02:26.The typical American family brings home nearly $54,000 a year.

:02:27. > :02:28.That's almost exactly the same as 20 years ago,

:02:29. > :02:33.Wage growth has been very low under Obama,

:02:34. > :02:36.and has been called the "missing piece" of the recovery.

:02:37. > :02:40.The economy has grown about 1.5% a year over

:02:41. > :02:48.That compares to about 2% under his predecessor George W Bush.

:02:49. > :02:50.One of the costs of that has been that US Government

:02:51. > :02:55.debt has nearly doubled, from $10 trillion to $20 trillion,

:02:56. > :03:01.during Obama's eight years in the Oval Office.

:03:02. > :03:04.Marianne Schneider-Petsinger, US geo-economics fellow

:03:05. > :03:14.at Chatham House, a think tank in London.

:03:15. > :03:27.If you ask any president, you would not want to take on that economy. If

:03:28. > :03:31.you were a teacher, you had to grade him on his economic, what grade

:03:32. > :03:36.would you give him? Overall, let's not forget where he started. When

:03:37. > :03:40.you talk about the economy, it was on the brink of depression. He

:03:41. > :03:47.averted that, it was just a recession. Compared to when he took

:03:48. > :03:51.it over, he has done a solid job, but it was not anything spectacular.

:03:52. > :04:00.If you compare him to other presidents, he falls in the middle

:04:01. > :04:03.range. Some may suggest it did not fall into depression because they

:04:04. > :04:11.threw a lot of money at it. They pumped a lot of money in. Some say

:04:12. > :04:18.not enough, though. I did not catch the wage growth. It is the missing

:04:19. > :04:26.link. You have created these jobs, they lost a lot but they created

:04:27. > :04:35.some. Why hasn't wage growth gone up? Many of the jobs that were

:04:36. > :04:38.created were in low-wage sectors. There is pressure from overseas and

:04:39. > :04:44.from technological change, automation is a key worry or stop

:04:45. > :04:47.many of these jobs had that have been created are part-time. Many

:04:48. > :04:52.people feel they are not making headway. There are a number of

:04:53. > :04:58.issues that go together. How do you think Barack Obama will be feeling?

:04:59. > :05:03.There are a lot of big issues, like his health care or trade deals,

:05:04. > :05:11.which may not be lasting. How will he look at this? He hopes that with

:05:12. > :05:19.some Democrats still in support of the things he has done, they will be

:05:20. > :05:26.attempts by the Donald Trump administration to overturn them, to

:05:27. > :05:34.chisel them down, but we will see, it is an open question. We have

:05:35. > :05:39.spoken before, looking forward, Donald Trump and his economic

:05:40. > :05:46.policies, there is a lot that people would look favourably on. Animal

:05:47. > :05:51.spirit is back. In terms of the promised tax cuts and cutting down

:05:52. > :05:57.on regulation. Businesses react favourably to that. They question

:05:58. > :06:00.whether he can deliver on many of those promises.

:06:01. > :06:03.Two prototype models of a highly-anticipated gaming

:06:04. > :06:05.laptop have been stolen at the Consumer Electronics

:06:06. > :06:09.They belong to the gaming company Razer, and each

:06:10. > :06:13.It's the first portable laptop of its kind.

:06:14. > :06:16.Razer said the devices were taken from its press room on Sunday,

:06:17. > :06:19.and the Chief Executive Min-Liang Tan said they were treating the case

:06:20. > :06:26.Volkswagen's chief executive for the North America region says

:06:27. > :06:29.the company was "surprised" by the criminal charges laid

:06:30. > :06:31.against the executive in charge of complying

:06:32. > :06:37.The German carmaker has admitted installing secret software

:06:38. > :06:44.On Monday Oliver Schmidt appeared in court in Miami charged with fraud

:06:45. > :06:51.He chose not to enter a plea and was remanded in custody.

:06:52. > :06:53.There are question marks about the future of Yahoo's

:06:54. > :06:55.influential chief executive Marissa Mayer after it was revealed

:06:56. > :06:59.she will not serve on the board of the company that is left behind

:07:00. > :07:03.once Yahoo's core assets are sold to Verizon.

:07:04. > :07:17.Five other directors will also not serve on the board.

:07:18. > :07:27.We are looking at our web a cracking site. We will work with our UK

:07:28. > :07:34.audience later, but Snapchat, or the company Snap, which owns it, they

:07:35. > :07:38.are choosing the UK for anything outside the US.

:07:39. > :07:42.It is a vote of confidence in the UK. If those companies come to

:07:43. > :07:48.Europe, they go for Ireland. Says the Irish lady! Luxembourg, the

:07:49. > :07:53.Netherlands. Could this be something to do with

:07:54. > :07:58.the fine that Apple could be facing, 13 billion tax rebate?

:07:59. > :08:03.It could be. Snapchat expected to go to the market this year.

:08:04. > :08:07.A big float. It hopes to raise $25 billion.

:08:08. > :08:10.We've had some numbers out of China which show that the world's

:08:11. > :08:12.second-biggest economy could be about to push up the prices

:08:13. > :08:15.of the things we around the world all buy from China.

:08:16. > :08:24.Sharanjit Leyl is in Singapore and she's got the figures.

:08:25. > :08:29.Just explain, how could these increases in China affect us as

:08:30. > :08:35.buyers elsewhere in the world? Will it cause our prices to go up?

:08:36. > :08:39.Possibly. Let me give you those figures, because they are

:08:40. > :08:46.interesting. They grew at their fastest pace in more than five

:08:47. > :08:55.years. The index for December was up 5.5% from the previous year, against

:08:56. > :08:58.expectations of. That could lead China to export inflation two

:08:59. > :09:04.nations around the world through its vast supply chains. This may prompt

:09:05. > :09:08.manufacturers who are enduring those higher input costs to raise their

:09:09. > :09:14.prices and pass them on to everyone around the world. Whether that

:09:15. > :09:20.rebound will be sustained depends on how the global economy fares,

:09:21. > :09:24.possibly under Donald Trump, and whether trade tensions flare between

:09:25. > :09:31.the US and China. Consumer prices remain stable, rising just over 2%.

:09:32. > :09:36.Others say that is an indicator that the real inflation seems restricted

:09:37. > :09:41.to the industrial sector. Hard-hit is the mining sector, prices surged

:09:42. > :09:46.over 21% in December from a year earlier.

:09:47. > :09:50.The US dollar started 2017 at a high but it's been sliding,

:09:51. > :09:58.along with the Dow on Wall Street, which closed down yesterday.

:09:59. > :10:00.And Asian stocks were mixed, with a decline in Japan.

:10:01. > :10:07.The Nikkei pretty flat, offsetting gains in Hong Kong,

:10:08. > :10:13.This week we should keep an eye on the oil price.

:10:14. > :10:15.It crept back up today after a fall on Monday over concerns

:10:16. > :10:19.about whether output cuts by major exporters will be enough to support

:10:20. > :10:26.the oil market as other producers have increased supplies.

:10:27. > :10:28.And Samira Hussain has the details about what's ahead

:10:29. > :10:40.More automotive news happening, General Motors will be telling

:10:41. > :10:45.investors what they can expect from the number one American auto-maker

:10:46. > :10:49.in 2017. Top officials will present the company's financial outlook at a

:10:50. > :10:56.butcher bank conference in Detroit. It is held at the same time as the

:10:57. > :11:01.Detroit auto show. Also happening, the Ford motor company CEO will

:11:02. > :11:05.outline forecasts for 2017 financial performance at a conference during

:11:06. > :11:10.the Detroit auto show. Investors will be watching for news on 2017

:11:11. > :11:17.American market forecasts, as well as the outlook for Asia and Europe.

:11:18. > :11:18.And Barack Obama will deliver his farewell address in his home city of

:11:19. > :11:21.Chicago. Joining us is James Bevan,

:11:22. > :11:35.chief investment officer at CCLA We want to talk about the American

:11:36. > :11:39.market. But let's talk about the FTSE 100, the main market in London.

:11:40. > :11:43.One record after another, but this is a story about the pound. The

:11:44. > :11:49.pound goes down in value, the FTSE goes up. A very large chunk of the

:11:50. > :11:52.earnings are overseas, either through export all through selling

:11:53. > :12:01.overseas, and bringing the earnings back. Whenever the pound goes down,

:12:02. > :12:11.profits go up, and vice versa. More bang for the buck. The American

:12:12. > :12:16.markets, all eyes are on January the 21st, the President-elect takes

:12:17. > :12:20.over. In the UK we have the weakness of the pound, in the US we have a

:12:21. > :12:23.strong dollar, and many people think, if you are going to talk

:12:24. > :12:28.about markets going up on the weakness of the pound, white is it

:12:29. > :12:31.that American equities have gone up with a strong dollar. Donald Trump

:12:32. > :12:36.is promising to cut tax substantially. Corporate earnings

:12:37. > :12:40.will rise because the Government will take less money. If you join

:12:41. > :12:43.and you should be tax cuts passed and you should be tax cuts passed

:12:44. > :12:50.straight through to the bottom line is terms of earnings, the index goes

:12:51. > :12:54.all the way. It is an overly optimistic perspective, but if you

:12:55. > :12:58.said, let's cut the difference between some deflation of the

:12:59. > :13:02.optimism and a revaluation on the back of that earnings numbers, maybe

:13:03. > :13:07.2500. Looking at how the markets have gone up in the States, a lot of

:13:08. > :13:10.it is on sentiment, we now know Donald Trump will be the president,

:13:11. > :13:15.and he will invest in infrastructure and cut down on regulation and

:13:16. > :13:20.taxes. Once he is in power and things either do or don't begin to

:13:21. > :13:26.happen, at one point -- at what point will be see a reality check?

:13:27. > :13:30.Have at least six months, because he will have to take the tax cuts right

:13:31. > :13:34.through the process, and we don't know if you will backdate them to

:13:35. > :13:44.early 2017 awful the date them to 2018. But the markets would begin to

:13:45. > :13:47.focus anyway forwards. All of the sentiment we have had for the global

:13:48. > :13:51.economy has been good, that has to remain in place, because it fits

:13:52. > :13:57.begin to slide back down the hill, no matter of cutting taxes will lead

:13:58. > :14:02.to better numbers. The US equity market is looking for 5% growth this

:14:03. > :14:03.year and next year, and that is what we have to focus on. We will see you

:14:04. > :14:05.shortly. We're all getting a lot more health

:14:06. > :14:07.conscious these days, but can non-alcoholic drinks really

:14:08. > :14:10.take the place of booze? We'll hear from a man who's hoping

:14:11. > :14:13.to capitalise on the trend You're with Business

:14:14. > :14:22.Live from BBC News. Snap, the company behind

:14:23. > :14:24.messaging app Snapchat, is setting up its international HQ

:14:25. > :14:28.in Britain, where it will book Many tech firms have

:14:29. > :14:36.preferred Ireland, Luxembourg or the Netherlands

:14:37. > :14:45.as their European tax base. Theo Leggett is in our

:14:46. > :14:55.business newsroom. Snapchat, why this decision, it

:14:56. > :15:00.bodes well for the UK economy and for London? A lot of social media

:15:01. > :15:04.companies like Facebook and Google have run into trouble over setting

:15:05. > :15:08.up tax bases in lower tax jurisdictions in Europe and then

:15:09. > :15:12.diverting profits from other large markets into those jurisdictions in

:15:13. > :15:16.order to minimise their tax bills. So schnapping is not doing that.

:15:17. > :15:19.They are setting up in the UK and they're channelling the profits from

:15:20. > :15:23.the UK first of all, but also from other countries where they don't

:15:24. > :15:26.have a major base and that includes Australia and Saudi Arabia and

:15:27. > :15:29.paying tax on them in the UK. Now, that tax bill at the moment won't

:15:30. > :15:33.actually be very high because Snapchat's revenues are not that

:15:34. > :15:37.high at the moment, but it is expanding rapidly. It is taking on

:15:38. > :15:41.more advertising and it is expecting its revenues to go up in the near

:15:42. > :15:43.future so there will be more money coming in and the money will be

:15:44. > :15:48.going through the UK. Let's not forget. The UK itself as a major

:15:49. > :15:56.economy has a low corporation tax rate. 20% at moment. It will fall to

:15:57. > :16:00.17% by 2020. So by doing this, schnapp is avoiding the prospect of

:16:01. > :16:03.big regulatory problems, like like the UK Government and the European

:16:04. > :16:07.Commission clamping down on companies which have aggressive tax

:16:08. > :16:11.policies and at the same time, it's basing itself in the UK where it has

:16:12. > :16:15.a relatively low corporation tax rate. So I think that's what's

:16:16. > :16:20.behind it. By the way, some of our viewers may not be familiar with

:16:21. > :16:24.Snapchat, it is an app aim at younger people. If you're under 25,

:16:25. > :16:30.you almost certainly will have heard of it. If you're over 30, maybe you

:16:31. > :16:35.won't, but that's changing as well. Snapchat allows you to take pictures

:16:36. > :16:40.and videos and send them and then have them deleted. It is becoming

:16:41. > :16:47.more popular among people the same age as myself and dare I say it, you

:16:48. > :16:57.too, Aaron. I'm older than you Theo! Thanks, mate.

:16:58. > :17:00.Morrison, Christmas sales up. They are doing well, aren't they? Good

:17:01. > :17:04.news for Britain's fourth biggest supermarket.

:17:05. > :17:07.Our top story, President Obama is getting ready to make

:17:08. > :17:10.He's expected to focus on his economic legacy especially

:17:11. > :17:14.A quick look at how markets are faring.

:17:15. > :17:21.We can see there the FTSE continuing that winning streak up and up,

:17:22. > :17:28.pretty much every day since the start of the year. It is up almost

:17:29. > :17:34.0.2%. The DAX up and the CAC down slightly. All the markets keeping an

:17:35. > :17:37.eye on the oil price which had its biggest fall in six weeks over

:17:38. > :17:43.concerns that some producers are making too much oil despite the Opec

:17:44. > :17:48.agreement. You do like the markets! Let's talk

:17:49. > :17:51.about something more interesting before I spit on the desk!

:17:52. > :17:54.Now let's get the inside track on distilling and I don't

:17:55. > :17:58.Herb and plant distillates have long been a medicinal tradition

:17:59. > :18:01.in the east but when Ben Branson, a British tee-total marketing

:18:02. > :18:03.executive stumbled across a copy of The Art of Distillation.

:18:04. > :18:09.A solution to the problem of what to drink when you don't want to drink.

:18:10. > :18:11.So inspired by craft techniques he set up soft drink

:18:12. > :18:15.Since then Seedlip has gained investment from drinks giant Diageo

:18:16. > :18:21.who seem to be betting on the rise of this adult market.

:18:22. > :18:22.The founder and chief executive of Seedlip,

:18:23. > :18:33.Guess what, he brought us? Nonalcoholic drinks! Sorry, I'm

:18:34. > :18:38.probably not your target market here. Welcome to the programme. Are

:18:39. > :18:45.you serious from a book? I know you've got the book, right? From a

:18:46. > :18:51.book. Ladies and gentlemen, this book is 1664? The original copy was

:18:52. > :18:57.1651. We managed to get our hands on a copy from 1664. This is original

:18:58. > :19:00.recipes, nonalcoholic herbal remedies all the distilling

:19:01. > :19:04.techniques that I found three years ago. So what prompted you? Was this

:19:05. > :19:07.something you were thinking I want a business opportunity, I can see a

:19:08. > :19:11.gap in this market? Was it that you were doing something else that

:19:12. > :19:17.brought you into making nonalcoholic beverages? It was not a business

:19:18. > :19:23.gap, business opportunity. Seedlip is just a product of my upbringing.

:19:24. > :19:26.Halfify family have been farming for over 300 years and we still farm

:19:27. > :19:30.today and that's really important. The other half of my company are in

:19:31. > :19:34.brand design. I grew up in the countryside and then went to work in

:19:35. > :19:39.brand design and I put the two together. You have an unusual, did

:19:40. > :19:43.you go to university? No. No. You did work experience for a big vodka

:19:44. > :19:46.company at the age of 14? I was doing work experience for brand

:19:47. > :19:52.design agencies from the age of 14 and got to work on some fantastic

:19:53. > :19:56.global brands. And so got a real insight into what it means to create

:19:57. > :20:00.one. I imagine the biggest booze maker in the world, Diageo,

:20:01. > :20:04.investing in you, which is kind of strange, but it sort of suggests

:20:05. > :20:08.this is a growing market? I think we're now in an age... Who are you

:20:09. > :20:12.targeting? We are in an age where you can go to a restaurant and have

:20:13. > :20:17.all kinds of food, it doesn't matter what allergy you have got and it

:20:18. > :20:21.doesn't matter what you want from wherever in the world, if you want

:20:22. > :20:26.an nonalcoholic cocktail, you can do the same. If you're not drinking for

:20:27. > :20:30.whatever reason, the options are poor, they are one dimensional and

:20:31. > :20:34.sweet and fruity and there is no theatre, there is no adult

:20:35. > :20:43.sophisticated flavour that we're trying to do. You know, I like a

:20:44. > :20:48.drink. My wife will nod to that. I haven't even tasted this. We've

:20:49. > :20:57.mixed it with tonic water. They are both mixed with tonic. We have got

:20:58. > :21:02.two products. Isn't the problem, it is not a problem, the issue, you

:21:03. > :21:07.were saying, you wanted other options? I have got three children,

:21:08. > :21:11.every time I was pregnant the offers of what you wanted to drink were

:21:12. > :21:14.limited. So I can see the appeal of an item like this, but your price

:21:15. > :21:21.bracket, it is ?27 a bottle. That's expensive. 40 bucks, that's $40 of

:21:22. > :21:26.the that's pricey. It is pricey. Because it takes us a long time to

:21:27. > :21:29.make. So we're individually distilling each individual

:21:30. > :21:34.ingredient. Two of the ingredients come from my farm, my hay, my hand

:21:35. > :21:39.picked peas, the craft that goes into this and the actual time and

:21:40. > :21:44.hand labour means that actually we're creating something that's

:21:45. > :21:48.really grown-up. Here is my point. For a drinker like me, is it all

:21:49. > :21:57.about the taste? It might be, but you don't get the buzz? You don't

:21:58. > :22:02.get the feeling. I'm not talking about pregnant. If it is a Monday

:22:03. > :22:07.lunch time or you're driving or as we are in dry January and you're

:22:08. > :22:10.having a month off, the opportunity to have a great grown-up

:22:11. > :22:13.nonalcoholic drink should still be there regardless of drinking for the

:22:14. > :22:18.effect. I think the effect of wanting to feel part of the group or

:22:19. > :22:21.wanting to feel like you're not the dummy in the corner drinking orange

:22:22. > :22:28.juice. This product, that's filling this gap in the market for adult

:22:29. > :22:33.drinks. There are a lot of other companies rushing in, Britvic have a

:22:34. > :22:37.company launching a similar sort of, more savoury alcoholic alternative

:22:38. > :22:40.rather than the fruity ones. We have nonalcoholic wines being introduced

:22:41. > :22:45.by one of the upmarket cordial companies. Is there room for you as

:22:46. > :22:49.well? We are the world's first distilled nonalcoholic spirits. So

:22:50. > :22:54.we are taking the same rituals of a spirit mixer of a vodka and Coke and

:22:55. > :22:58.of a gin and tonic that sits on the back bar that means you can make

:22:59. > :23:05.something at home so we're taking that side of the market. I guess we

:23:06. > :23:08.want to solve the problem of not drinking. If other people are coming

:23:09. > :23:13.in and helping to build that owication, happy days. Ben Branson,

:23:14. > :23:17.thank you. You can come back and see me when you've put some alcohol in

:23:18. > :23:23.that one and we'll talk them. I'm not your target market, I'm sorry!

:23:24. > :23:26.In a moment we'll take a look through the Business Pages but first

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:23:59. > :24:00.What other business stories has the media been

:24:01. > :24:03.James Bevan from CCLA Investment Management joins us again.

:24:04. > :24:11.James, thank you for hanging around. Now, earlier we asked people to send

:24:12. > :24:16.in any tweets they might have. We were asking about the Uber story,

:24:17. > :24:21.there was a Tube strike in London and some Uber charges went up by

:24:22. > :24:26.500%! Was that supply and demand? Is that fine? Is it OK to cash in? It

:24:27. > :24:32.is the core part of the Uber business model. Uber pays by the

:24:33. > :24:37.mile and the time spent behind the wheel and there is a loading factor

:24:38. > :24:40.to get people to join the ranks of the drivers when demand rises. When

:24:41. > :24:44.there is a strike in public transport, demand goes through the

:24:45. > :24:48.roof and hence the loading goes up hugely. Some tweets have said,

:24:49. > :24:53."Look, they are really cheap norm times. This is their opportunity to

:24:54. > :25:00.cash in." There is a legitimate problem when

:25:01. > :25:05.there was too much traffic and you hope you're going to get a fast ride

:25:06. > :25:12.and you don't. The road system is not good at coping with huge

:25:13. > :25:18.volumes. It is not an Uber problem. Another company that is weighing

:25:19. > :25:22.what is it going to do with president trump's dislike for cars

:25:23. > :25:26.made in Mexico and sold in the US? It is made in Mexico and sold in the

:25:27. > :25:31.USment there are successful car companies like Nissan and VW and BMW

:25:32. > :25:36.that manufacture in Mexico and sell around the world, not specifically

:25:37. > :25:43.to the United States. However, Ford and GM have definitely decided in

:25:44. > :25:46.the past that they would want to manufacture cheaply in Mexico and

:25:47. > :25:49.export to the US and they will have to re-think their strategy. James

:25:50. > :25:52.Bevan, thank you very much for joining us today.

:25:53. > :25:55.Thank you for the tweets. We're running out of time to mention them,

:25:56. > :25:59.but a lot of people saying focus on the taxis as well, not just Uber. I

:26:00. > :26:13.will. Bye-bye. Hello. It looks as if it will be a

:26:14. > :26:16.fairly cloudy day for many parts of the British Isles and there is a

:26:17. > :26:20.chance of rain on a weak weather front for many areas too. But it is

:26:21. > :26:21.not all doom and gloom. There