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:00:07. > :00:09.This is Business Live from BBC News with Sally Bundock and Rachel Horne.

:00:10. > :00:12.The scandal engulfing Samsung has come to a head as the heir

:00:13. > :00:15.to the business is charged with bribery, and three

:00:16. > :00:35.Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday, 27th February.

:00:36. > :00:39.South Korean prosecutors have confirmed they will charge this man

:00:40. > :00:41.Jay Y Lee, the third generation leader of Samsung,

:00:42. > :00:50.The scandal has rocked South Korea to its core.

:00:51. > :00:56.We'll have the latest from our team in the region.

:00:57. > :01:01.One of the world's fastest growing economies gives

:01:02. > :01:03.it's latest growth - the first numbers on the last

:01:04. > :01:11.quarter since the cash crisis that caused growth to stall.

:01:12. > :01:20.All of the market are headed higher -- markets are heading higher. And

:01:21. > :01:29.we will have the latest Donald Trump pump. -- and we will have the latest

:01:30. > :01:33.on Trump pump in Europe. And are you cycling enthusiast

:01:34. > :01:36.but fed up with wearing lycra? We'll be speaking to the man

:01:37. > :01:38.who is trying to revolutionize As the Samsung scandal

:01:39. > :01:42.continues we want to know - do headlines like these

:01:43. > :01:44.affect your shopping habits? If Samsung or people

:01:45. > :01:46.associated with it are found guilty of bribery -

:01:47. > :01:48.would it stop you Just use the hashtag bbc bizlive -

:01:49. > :01:57.would you avoid samsung products. Apologies for saying it is the 27th

:01:58. > :02:02.of February, it is the 28th of February today. We start with this

:02:03. > :02:06.man behind Mika McGettigan making headlines for the wrong reasons.

:02:07. > :02:10.After weeks of uncertainty one of the world's biggest companies is

:02:11. > :02:14.seeing the man who is in charge indicted by South Korean prosecutors

:02:15. > :02:16.on charges of bribery and embezzlement.

:02:17. > :02:18.This is Jay Y Lee being taken in for questioning

:02:19. > :02:21.earlier this month - it's part of a wide-ranging

:02:22. > :02:23.corruption scandal which has seen the president impeached.

:02:24. > :02:29.Prosecutors allege Mr Lee gave donations worth about $36m

:02:30. > :02:34.to organisations linked to a close friend of president Park Geun-hye.

:02:35. > :02:42.The prosecutors say this was done to get government support

:02:43. > :02:43.for a controversial $8bn merger between two

:02:44. > :02:47.At a parliamentary hearing in December Samsung admitted giving

:02:48. > :02:55.about $18 million to two non-profit foundations but denies

:02:56. > :03:01.seeking favours in return and any wrongdoing.

:03:02. > :03:04.Four other Samsung executives have also been charged

:03:05. > :03:09.Three of them have now resigned from Samsung's corporate strategy

:03:10. > :03:19.office which oversees the activities of the dozens of Samsung companies.

:03:20. > :03:26.Ashleigh Ngheim is in our Asia Business Hub in Singapore.

:03:27. > :03:33.This story has been unfolding in more details at the last couple of

:03:34. > :03:36.hours, bring us up to scratch. It all emerged after South Korean

:03:37. > :03:41.prosecutors held a press conference confirming as you say, charges would

:03:42. > :03:45.be laid against Samsung's boss as one of those four executives. Three

:03:46. > :03:52.of whom you have now resigned. Essential to this case is the claim

:03:53. > :03:55.that Samsung's boss, Jay Y Lee, met the South Korean president in a

:03:56. > :03:59.private meeting just between the two of them. It's claimed that they

:04:00. > :04:04.agreed Samsung would pay millions of dollars to the friend of the

:04:05. > :04:08.president, who would then get South Korea's National pension fund to

:04:09. > :04:13.bank a major restructure in favour of Mr Lee and to help the family

:04:14. > :04:17.shore up their control of the company. Critics say that was the

:04:18. > :04:19.one goal that was to come out of that meeting for the company. Thanks

:04:20. > :04:21.very much. Geoffrey Cain is a journalist

:04:22. > :04:23.who spent five years in Seoul and is now writing

:04:24. > :04:25.a book about Samsung. He joins us from Yuma,

:04:26. > :04:36.Arizona in the United States. Thank you for joining us this

:04:37. > :04:43.morning. It's been a terrible year of headlines for Samsung. We had all

:04:44. > :04:47.of the issues with the Note seven phone. If you could their share

:04:48. > :04:53.price of the electronics company, it is almost 50% up in the past year.

:04:54. > :04:58.What is the story of this company? This is a unique company in that it

:04:59. > :05:00.has managed to split its business operations, the things that it

:05:01. > :05:05.makes, the phones, the televisions, from the leadership, from the

:05:06. > :05:09.dynastic, from the government's problems. It's interesting what is

:05:10. > :05:12.happening because we have these smoking phones which just happened.

:05:13. > :05:18.Now we are having these problems with Jay Y Lee, the heir to the

:05:19. > :05:24.Samsung throne, who is now in jail awaiting trial most likely. We are

:05:25. > :05:28.seeing a complete disconnect. Investors have confidence in

:05:29. > :05:32.Samsung. Consumers still like their products. Its profits and shares are

:05:33. > :05:40.still quite high. This is a company that goes a lot of the business

:05:41. > :05:43.wisdom out there. If Jay Y Lee this found guilty, what could this mean

:05:44. > :05:48.for Samsung? Because he was being groomed to take over. Samsung

:05:49. > :05:52.probably will be fine. The share price is pretty high as you

:05:53. > :06:00.mentioned. It looks like it is still going up. Galaxy eight is slated to

:06:01. > :06:03.be released sometime soon. This is a company that does have a good future

:06:04. > :06:10.ahead of it when you look at the products and all of the lines it

:06:11. > :06:17.makes. The thing Jay Y Lee is, -- the thing is Jay Y Lee made a

:06:18. > :06:22.sweeping change. It is looking like the company will be shaking things

:06:23. > :06:26.up a bit. It isn't very clear how this will trickle down to the people

:06:27. > :06:30.in the field, to the officers themselves, but it looks like most

:06:31. > :06:34.of these offices are able to run themselves regardless of what is

:06:35. > :06:41.happening up top. Looking ahead for the company, to their future, you

:06:42. > :06:44.mentioned they've been successful in separating their business. Investors

:06:45. > :06:49.don't seem bothered about the issues with the phones all the scandal. Do

:06:50. > :06:54.you think the future for Samsung is still quite possible? Overall it is

:06:55. > :06:59.quite positive. Samsung is a diversified conglomerate. It makes

:07:00. > :07:04.everything from chips to chips. A lot of success rides on the fact it

:07:05. > :07:07.doesn't just make phones. If you are Apple and a flagship product fails

:07:08. > :07:17.you might be in trouble. If you were IDM -- IBM Microsoft and Windows

:07:18. > :07:23.fails, there could be problems. But the phones will decline and then the

:07:24. > :07:27.sum -- semiconductors they make my debate in the second quarter. You

:07:28. > :07:31.have this floating effect where one product rises and another falls, and

:07:32. > :07:35.it goes through the cycle over and over. It is a cycle Samsung has gone

:07:36. > :07:40.through four decades and they've always come out of it despite the

:07:41. > :07:45.conviction of the current chairman. He was convicted twice of

:07:46. > :07:49.white-collar crimes. He was pardoned by two a separate presidents. The

:07:50. > :07:52.founder of Samsung had trouble. Yeah, I think the company itself

:07:53. > :07:53.will be fine. Thank you for joining us this morning.

:07:54. > :07:58.A senior engineer has left ride sharing company Uber just

:07:59. > :08:03.Amit Singhal failed to disclose that he faced accusations of sexual

:08:04. > :08:07.harassment in his last job at Google.

:08:08. > :08:09.His departure comes days after Uber promised to investigate separate

:08:10. > :08:15.claims of sexual harassment at the company.

:08:16. > :08:19.Greece is holding yet more talks to try and get to the next stage

:08:20. > :08:23.Inspectors for the European Union, European Central Bank

:08:24. > :08:25.and International Monetary Fund are in Athens trying to finalise

:08:26. > :08:28.reforms with the government so that it can be given the next

:08:29. > :08:31.chunk of money which will help it avoid bankruptcy as it continues

:08:32. > :08:40.to struggle with more than $300 billion of debt.

:08:41. > :08:48.Lots of stories on the website, including this one about space X.

:08:49. > :09:00.Two tourists have put their place to travel 3000 miles -- 300,000 miles

:09:01. > :09:06.to the moon and back. -- SpaceX. If I put my children and that rocket

:09:07. > :09:09.I would make amazing childcare savings.

:09:10. > :09:11.Where am I going to day mummy? To the moon and back.

:09:12. > :09:12.CHUCKLES In a few hours time we'll find out

:09:13. > :09:16.how the Indian economy is faring. Could the world's second most

:09:17. > :09:31.populated country become the engine This is really important data, isn't

:09:32. > :09:34.it, coming out today? It's the first time we will get a look at October,

:09:35. > :09:41.November and December for India which is when the cash crisis kicked

:09:42. > :09:46.in. That's right. Very crucial piece of data that will be released later

:09:47. > :09:50.today. These figures are for the period from October to December 20

:09:51. > :09:55.16. The government put a ban on those notes starting December. --

:09:56. > :09:59.starting November. You'll get a first picture of how that move

:10:00. > :10:05.impacted the economy on the ground. And how much time will it take for

:10:06. > :10:09.the recovery. India was the fastest growing economy. It surpassed China

:10:10. > :10:13.over the past few quarters. Most economists now expect this latest

:10:14. > :10:21.figure will be somewhere above 6%. Many think it could be lower. It

:10:22. > :10:25.will lose its tag as the fastest-growing economy if it is in

:10:26. > :10:33.that range. Thanks very much. One story in town today as far as the

:10:34. > :10:36.markets are concerned. The Dow Jones closing for 12 days in a row at a

:10:37. > :10:40.record high. The first time it's done that for some 30 years. And it

:10:41. > :10:45.is all about President Trump. What will he say later today when he

:10:46. > :10:50.addresses both houses of Congress? Many are expecting a 10% boost to

:10:51. > :10:58.defence and different stocks are doing well. Let's move on to the

:10:59. > :11:04.European markets if we can. London... Bae up around 2% on the

:11:05. > :11:08.FTSE 100. We cannot bring you the figures for some reason. We will do

:11:09. > :11:10.it in a moment when we look ahead to the European markets.

:11:11. > :11:12.Michelle Fleury has the details about what's ahead

:11:13. > :11:18.Wall Street will be paying close attention when Donald Trump

:11:19. > :11:22.addresses Congress later this Tuesday. What are they looking for

:11:23. > :11:27.from his speech? More details on the Budget and how he plans to move

:11:28. > :11:31.forward on tax reform and infrastructure spending. While the

:11:32. > :11:34.president is popular among investors he has historically low approval

:11:35. > :11:46.ratings among voters. The US conference board 's confidence index

:11:47. > :11:51.will view confidence in him. Economists are forecasting a dip.

:11:52. > :11:57.And how Americans feel can affect their spending habits. Will that

:11:58. > :12:02.help or hurt retail targets which reports fourth-quarter earnings this

:12:03. > :12:05.Tuesday. There has already been an early warning that the holiday

:12:06. > :12:06.season was disappointing. Thank you.

:12:07. > :12:11.Joining us is James Hughes the Chief Market Analyst from GKFX.

:12:12. > :12:21.The US markets have had almost a 30 year winning streak. Trump is

:12:22. > :12:28.talking tonight. What are we expecting? We can expect anything

:12:29. > :12:32.because it is Donald Trump. Interestingly we expected fiscal

:12:33. > :12:36.policy today. That's the information we wanted. However yesterday, Trump,

:12:37. > :12:40.as he likes to do, randomly come out and speak, he said yesterday that he

:12:41. > :12:43.isn't going to mention anything about potential tax cuts today. That

:12:44. > :12:48.is something we've all been waiting for. That is one of the big reasons

:12:49. > :12:51.why these markets have been rallying, particularly the Dow

:12:52. > :12:54.Jones, because we've seen strong rallies. There have been good,

:12:55. > :12:59.corporate performances but it has all been on the back of potential,

:13:00. > :13:04.very bullish fiscal policy, which is very stimulant to the markets, to

:13:05. > :13:08.the overall stock markets. We are still waiting for that news? Donald

:13:09. > :13:12.Trump said yesterday he wouldn't say it, but that does not mean he won't,

:13:13. > :13:17.because he will say what he likes. The fact we have Trump at the moment

:13:18. > :13:20.really dictating the markets means that the way people are trading is

:13:21. > :13:25.completely different to how it usually is. Looking at the European

:13:26. > :13:28.markets, we have the numbers now, edging up slightly. In Europe we

:13:29. > :13:31.have that meeting with Greece and Finance ministers, we've already

:13:32. > :13:37.mentioned that, but is everybody just really focused on the US later

:13:38. > :13:40.today? And also this fourth-quarter GDP number coming, the second

:13:41. > :13:45.estimate, which will give us an idea of how well the US economy is doing

:13:46. > :13:48.right now. Absolutely. It is difficult to look at anything other

:13:49. > :13:51.than Donald Trump and everything coming out of the US. We don't just

:13:52. > :13:56.have Trump, but we have the Fed ramping up for a rate hike. Europe

:13:57. > :14:01.is an important one to look at. Especially with a discrete mass. We

:14:02. > :14:05.know that the IMF and the ECB are having talks about the fact that

:14:06. > :14:08.Greece won't meet any of their targets. Yet we will keep pumping

:14:09. > :14:13.money in regardless. That is what happens every time we get this

:14:14. > :14:17.situation with Greece. It will continue to happen until Greece

:14:18. > :14:21.finally does go bankrupt or the euro falls apart. There is a focus on

:14:22. > :14:24.that. What is different to any other time was that with Donald Trump in

:14:25. > :14:27.the White House we are far more focused on the White House and what

:14:28. > :14:33.comes out of it, more than we ever would be. We don't normally care

:14:34. > :14:36.about politics. But with Trump in the White House it is the

:14:37. > :14:42.uncertainty which causes so much movement. With Trump in the White

:14:43. > :14:46.House it changes the way traders work, you said, how has your job

:14:47. > :14:50.changed since he has become president? We are looking at twitter

:14:51. > :14:55.all day long instead of the markets. Those things are driving us. Your

:14:56. > :14:58.daily could be quite regimented. You would look towards the economic

:14:59. > :15:03.calendar, what is coming out of the US, out of Europe, but now, we know

:15:04. > :15:07.Trump wakes up because he sends a tweet first thing. From there until

:15:08. > :15:11.the end of the trading session, or until he goes to bed, we know that

:15:12. > :15:17.anything can come out. At the moment markets are latching onto everything

:15:18. > :15:18.he says. Does that make your life more interesting or more stressful?

:15:19. > :15:32.Both. Thanks very much. Now a look at some of the stories

:15:33. > :15:34.from around the UK. The telecoms regulator, Ofcom,

:15:35. > :15:37.says it will take action to cut the bills of those who only

:15:38. > :15:39.have a landline with BT. Theo Leggett joins us from

:15:40. > :15:50.the Business Newsroom with more. This sounds like good news. Fill us

:15:51. > :15:54.in. Well, this is because a lot of us get our broadband and our phone

:15:55. > :15:58.lines and things like that as a bundle and those of us who do, which

:15:59. > :16:01.is most of us, get a good deal because there is a lot of

:16:02. > :16:05.competition in the market, but a substantial minority of people still

:16:06. > :16:09.buy just a land line or they get things separately so they'll have a

:16:10. > :16:14.land line contract and a broadband contract and what Ofcom are saying

:16:15. > :16:18.is those people get a pretty rough deal. Whereas prices have fallen for

:16:19. > :16:22.other people, for anybody who is just buying a land line contract,

:16:23. > :16:26.the price of the contract in real terms, so stripping out inflation

:16:27. > :16:30.has gone up between 25% and 40% over the last six years. Now that doesn't

:16:31. > :16:34.sound great, but what's worse according to Ofcom is these are some

:16:35. > :16:37.of the most vulnerable people, elderly people who may never have

:16:38. > :16:40.changed their phone contract. This was what Sharon White the Chief

:16:41. > :16:46.Executive of Ofcom had to say a short while ago. Our concern is

:16:47. > :16:51.there are about two million elderly and vulnerable people, most of whom

:16:52. > :16:54.have been with BT for decades, have never switched their telephone

:16:55. > :16:59.provider, and they have seen their bills rise by about a third while at

:17:00. > :17:03.the same time, BT's costs have fallen by a quarter.

:17:04. > :17:07.So that was the Chief Executive of Ofcom. Now, what they're planning to

:17:08. > :17:11.do there, is a consultation, but they say they want to reduce the

:17:12. > :17:17.monthly price of a land line by about ?5. It doesn't sound a lot,

:17:18. > :17:22.but ?60 a year if you're on a fixed income as many elderly people are,

:17:23. > :17:27.that can have a big impact. This is a consultation. It will carry on to

:17:28. > :17:29.May. Ofcom will take a final decision around the end of the year.

:17:30. > :17:45.Thank you. We have got a story about the

:17:46. > :17:50.triple-lock. It is about the pension triple-lock where the state pension

:17:51. > :17:53.increases either by inflation, or wage increases or 2.5%, whichever is

:17:54. > :17:57.higher. It was introduced in 2010 and it is something that's very

:17:58. > :18:00.expensive and there is chat about scrapping it, but a former Pensions

:18:01. > :18:11.Minister said scrapping it would be a bad idea.

:18:12. > :18:14.Our top story, South Korean prosecutors have confirmed

:18:15. > :18:16.they will charge this man Jay Y Lee, the third generation

:18:17. > :18:22.leader of Samsung, with bribery and embezzlement.

:18:23. > :18:31.He's been accused of giving donations in exchange

:18:32. > :18:33.The lycra clad cyclist is a familiar sight in many

:18:34. > :18:36.But not everyone looks great exerting themselves

:18:37. > :18:48.In fact the British have an acronym for it.

:18:49. > :18:50.MAMIL, meaning Middle Aged Men in Lycra.

:18:51. > :18:52.A sight often seen on a Sunday morning.

:18:53. > :18:55.But our next guest aims to make things a bit

:18:56. > :18:56.more comfortable - and stylish -

:18:57. > :19:00.He's Nick Hussey, the boss of cycling clothing company Vulpine.

:19:01. > :19:05.It was launched in 2012 and aims to provide clothing that

:19:06. > :19:15.doesn't look like you've just cycled to work in it.

:19:16. > :19:17.raising more than ?1 million, about $1.25 million

:19:18. > :19:20.in a crowd-funding drive in 2015 - around double the target.

:19:21. > :19:21.It's a purely online operation with most

:19:22. > :19:25.of its sales here in the UK - but the company plans to crack

:19:26. > :19:44.Where did this come from. I am assuming you were a committed

:19:45. > :19:48.cyclist? I was a racing cyclist in the 80 and I have seen cycling turn

:19:49. > :19:52.into something completely different. What hasn't kept up is cycling

:19:53. > :19:59.clothing. You think of tight, bright, smelly Lycra and that's what

:20:00. > :20:03.MA MI Ls wear. I also work and I go about my daily life and there is

:20:04. > :20:06.nothing I can wear for that, so I created the company to use

:20:07. > :20:11.performance fabrics that look stylish. You can ride in it, feel

:20:12. > :20:15.good in it, you don't have to carry a rucksack and go to the gym and

:20:16. > :20:20.have a shower and wet wipe yourself down. Everything you've got on,

:20:21. > :20:24.you've got bits and bobs, some of the gear that you sell. Just explain

:20:25. > :20:29.if you pull those out Nick so the viewer can have a look, just explain

:20:30. > :20:34.the science behind this fabric because you're saying you do still

:20:35. > :20:40.sweat when you cycle... We all do. It doesn't smell and it doesn't

:20:41. > :20:48.affect the clothes. You wore your clothes for weeks on end. I wore

:20:49. > :20:55.wool and it didn't smell. How does it work? Is it the bacteria? It is a

:20:56. > :21:01.naturally antibacterial fabric. It is pure wool. It is expensive stuff,

:21:02. > :21:04.but it lasts extremely well and it performs wonderfully well so you can

:21:05. > :21:09.wear it will all day and not be paranoid. It is expensive. The

:21:10. > :21:14.jacket is ?300 compared to a cycling jacket for ?50. Why would somebody

:21:15. > :21:18.pay that much more? Because they pay for quality and they pay for that

:21:19. > :21:22.performance, that long lasting thing that they will have for years and

:21:23. > :21:29.years and they can use it for their entire life. They can wear it for

:21:30. > :21:34.years for everything they're doing in their lives. 68% of your sales

:21:35. > :21:37.are in the k, but you have got overseas sales and you're looking to

:21:38. > :21:40.increase those. How are those overseas sales come about. Have you

:21:41. > :21:44.been targeting them? All we have done is concentrate on the UK and

:21:45. > :21:47.put our resources in there. We are a small company and now, today, we're

:21:48. > :21:53.launching a new range and we are starting to talk to international

:21:54. > :21:57.markets. 32% of that international revenue has just come organically

:21:58. > :22:02.and that's promising. That comes from Germany, the US, South Korea,

:22:03. > :22:06.Japan, Finland, strangely, and we're not trying. So now we're going to

:22:07. > :22:10.try and we expect that to expand quickly. How are you going to manage

:22:11. > :22:14.that. Your turnover is more than ?1 million. You raised quickly on a

:22:15. > :22:18.crowdfunding website the money you required. You're just ten people and

:22:19. > :22:21.yet it seems to be snowballing. You and your wife are running this.

:22:22. > :22:24.You're both working full-time. You have got a four-year-old and a

:22:25. > :22:30.one-year-old, how are you going to pull all this off? It sounds

:22:31. > :22:34.stressful. A lot of coffee and support. I have a great group of

:22:35. > :22:39.staff who are very committed and also great shareholders, we have 600

:22:40. > :22:44.shareholders now who are easy manage and extremely helpful. They are also

:22:45. > :22:47.our customers, that's an important aspect of crowdfunding and really

:22:48. > :22:51.our biggest problem is not having stock. We need cash for stock.

:22:52. > :22:56.Interestingly, something that's maybe relevant to you guys is HSBC

:22:57. > :23:02.fund our invoices which means that we can afford to buy more stock. All

:23:03. > :23:06.right. We'll keep an eye on it. You don't look like many of our

:23:07. > :23:13.coalition who come in in their sweaty Lycra to the BBC!

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:23:48. > :23:55.You have been getting in touch about Samsung. We asked you is what

:23:56. > :23:59.unfolding at Samsung affecting your shopping habits. A viewer says, "I

:24:00. > :24:03.think quality and innovation of their products matter most other

:24:04. > :24:07.than a corporate scandal." Ray, "I'm likely to avoid a product if I don't

:24:08. > :24:09.agree with the company and its leader's politics." So mixed

:24:10. > :24:22.opinions out there by Samsung. Dominic requested he would like to

:24:23. > :24:27.do SpaceX, is that because you've got a ticket? No, I haven't got a

:24:28. > :24:30.ticket. I'm fascinated by it. It is interesting the idea that a private

:24:31. > :24:40.company would take people to the moon. This is Elon Musk, SpaceX, he

:24:41. > :24:44.is not planning planning land anybody on the moon. It is a private

:24:45. > :24:50.company that's doing this. You would think it would put people off? If

:24:51. > :24:54.you go on YouTube you can see spectacular explosions with SpaceX

:24:55. > :25:00.rockets that exploded. This is with Nasa's approval? The US Government's

:25:01. > :25:05.policy has to get away from Government control of the space

:25:06. > :25:11.programme and really subcontract subcontract it to private companies.

:25:12. > :25:17.The consumers products that Silicon Valley pioneered are funding the

:25:18. > :25:21.next phase of space exploration. Do you think they have travel

:25:22. > :25:28.insurance? I'd like to know what the product is! There was another

:25:29. > :25:33.article in the Times today about Mighty the caretaking outsourcing

:25:34. > :25:38.company. There has been a lot of talk about getting workers on to

:25:39. > :25:42.boards. Theresa May, the Prime Minister, before she was made Prime

:25:43. > :25:44.Minister talked about worker representation on boards, but she

:25:45. > :25:50.walked away from that. That's not going to happen. Mighty are going to

:25:51. > :25:54.go ahead and do it. We will keep an eye on it. Do you think they will

:25:55. > :26:00.get much input or will they be there? It depends on who will be

:26:01. > :26:01.representing the workers. I will see you tomorrow for