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:00:00. > :00:07.This is Business Live from BBC News with Aaron

:00:08. > :00:13.Toshiba's troubles continue - the Japanese giant faces

:00:14. > :00:16.the prospect of being delisted from the Tokyo Stock Exchange.

:00:17. > :00:33.Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday 11th April.

:00:34. > :00:37.Toshiba isn't the only Japanese company which is

:00:38. > :00:40.struggling to stay afloat - later in the programme,

:00:41. > :00:45.we'll look at the issues facing some of the country's biggest names.

:00:46. > :00:51.The business community has been reacting to THIS video

:00:52. > :01:01.of a man being dragged off a United Airlines flight.

:01:02. > :01:03.Come fly the friendly skies... Or not!

:01:04. > :01:10.We'll bring you full details later in the show.

:01:11. > :01:18.And we give you an update on the markets. The looming French

:01:19. > :01:20.election, we will tell you for that is doing to investors.

:01:21. > :01:24.When will driverless cars become a reality -

:01:25. > :01:28.I get the inside track from the Intel boss heading

:01:29. > :01:42.up the tech giant's new driverless car division.

:01:43. > :01:49.And as Aaron said, that United Airlines video is going viral around

:01:50. > :01:54.the world, will be an airline ever redeem itself and what do you think

:01:55. > :01:57.the passengers should get? Tell us your thoughts.

:01:58. > :02:03.Let us know, use the hashtag BBCBizLive.

:02:04. > :02:06.That poor bloke, he should be getting first-class for the rest of

:02:07. > :02:09.his life, that's what I say! We start with the

:02:10. > :02:12.troubles at Toshiba. The company is expected

:02:13. > :02:17.to publish its results for the last quarter of 2016 today,

:02:18. > :02:20.after postponing them twice. And they are expected

:02:21. > :02:26.to be disastrous. The numbers have already been

:02:27. > :02:35.spilled twice. -- been postponed. We hope to no mere

:02:36. > :02:37.after a press conference Recently Toshiba announced

:02:38. > :02:40.that its losses would TRIPLE as a result of difficulties faced

:02:41. > :02:46.by its US Westinghouse division. The company's US new-clear division

:02:47. > :02:49.has suffered huge cost over-runs at two projects in Georgia and South

:02:50. > :02:54.Carolina. Since Toshiba told us these

:02:55. > :03:05.numbers would be awful... Take a look at what investors have

:03:06. > :03:07.in doing. They have been sucking their money out of the country. And

:03:08. > :03:09.the company. The company's share price

:03:10. > :03:10.has more than halved. There are fears that Toshiba

:03:11. > :03:13.could be de-listed from the main Tokyo Stock Exchange if it reports

:03:14. > :03:16.another set of disappointing The issues faced by Toshiba

:03:17. > :03:20.highlights Japan's problem Some experts argue that the central

:03:21. > :03:29.bank is making it too easy for Japanese firms to access funding

:03:30. > :03:32.and this is providing an artificial lifeline

:03:33. > :03:47.to unprofitable businesses. You have to ask yourself, as an

:03:48. > :03:53.outsider, what are the problems and why have all these problems hit

:03:54. > :03:57.Japan, corporate Japan? You think about the household brands that we

:03:58. > :04:00.all used to use and love? What has gone wrong?

:04:01. > :04:02.The BBC's Rupert-Wingfield Hayes has been to investigate -

:04:03. > :04:18.These were the greatest rounds in consumer goods for decades. Toshiba,

:04:19. > :04:22.Panasonic, Hitachi, Sony... How did we end up here? First of all the

:04:23. > :04:26.Chinese and the Koreans came along and they could make these things

:04:27. > :04:30.just as well but much cheaper. Worst of all and most importantly these

:04:31. > :04:34.Japanese companies lost their Mojo, they forgot how to innovate. The

:04:35. > :04:36.country that invented the Walkman did not go on to invent the

:04:37. > :04:47.smartphone. Inside a vast exhibition hall more

:04:48. > :04:52.than 3000 new recruits are being inducted into one of Japan's big

:04:53. > :04:58.corporations. A lot of these young people can expect to spend the whole

:04:59. > :05:04.of their career in this one company. It will we come their second home.

:05:05. > :05:10.They'll expect to work hard, long hours and wait their turn for

:05:11. > :05:16.promotion. It's a model does work well for Japan in the past but it

:05:17. > :05:21.has real problems. In this rigid corporate hierarchy promotion is

:05:22. > :05:27.based on age, not on talent. It's a culture that is resistant to change

:05:28. > :05:32.and bad at producing new ideas. Japan's big corporations realised

:05:33. > :05:40.they had to change to survive and Toshiba decided to bet on nuclear.

:05:41. > :05:41.In 2006 it went out and bought Westinghouse five years later, this

:05:42. > :05:56.happened. But this behind me here, this is me,

:05:57. > :06:00.inside the Fukushima plant four years ago... This changed

:06:01. > :06:02.everything, many companies deciding they did not want anything to do

:06:03. > :06:07.with nuclear power and those that did insisted any new plants must be

:06:08. > :06:11.much safer the cause of that, they work going to be much more expensive

:06:12. > :06:19.than bad is the root of Toshiba's current financial disaster. -- and

:06:20. > :06:24.that is. Toshiba is not alone. Other famous Japanese names have been

:06:25. > :06:30.through deep crises, last year Sharp was told to a Taiwanese company, now

:06:31. > :06:34.Toshiba will be broken up, it's best it's sold off to the highest bidder.

:06:35. > :06:46.Rupert Wingfield Hayes, BBC News, Tokyo.

:06:47. > :06:49.Well lets talk more about this with Makoto Itoh, he's a professor

:06:50. > :06:55.A warm welcome to the programme, I and a member of the Japan Academy.

:06:56. > :06:59.A warm welcome to the programme, I am interested first and Toshiba, the

:07:00. > :07:09.figures delayed once again, what is your take on what we might hear from

:07:10. > :07:17.Toshiba? Hello! I suspect he perhaps cannot hear us... No, I hear you.

:07:18. > :07:21.Good to establish communications, I am just going to try again because

:07:22. > :07:26.we wanted to pick up on what happens in terms of Toshiba and I wonder if

:07:27. > :07:35.you can give me your take on the fact that the results have been

:07:36. > :07:52.delayed twice so what happens next? I think they decided this morning in

:07:53. > :08:03.Tokyo to disclose Q3 delayed reports of last year until December. And

:08:04. > :08:13.they could not get approval from the audit corporations but decided to

:08:14. > :08:21.announce the report openly. They feared that more delay would

:08:22. > :08:34.endanger their position in the stock market. So they decided to disclose

:08:35. > :08:50.this afternoon the huge loss of probably tell $1 billion. -- $10

:08:51. > :08:53.billion. And probably they tried to restructure the financial position

:08:54. > :08:59.from there. We are having some problems about being able to hear

:09:00. > :09:03.you so we are going to cut this short but I thank you so much, we

:09:04. > :09:10.will try to establish that line if we can. Shall we touch on some of

:09:11. > :09:13.the other stories? A bit of a car theme.

:09:14. > :09:16.Japanese carmaker Toyota says it's spending 1.3 billion dollars

:09:17. > :09:20.on its plant in the US state of Kentucky, as part of a plan

:09:21. > :09:21.to invest 10 billion dollars in the country.

:09:22. > :09:25.It comes just months after US President Trump threatened Toyota

:09:26. > :09:39.with a border tax if it didn't make its cars in the United States.

:09:40. > :09:41.Talking more about United Airlines...

:09:42. > :09:44.One of the security officers involved in the incident was placed

:09:45. > :09:47.The airline had overbooked the plane from Chicago,

:09:48. > :09:50.and when no one volunteered to leave to let some of United's staff

:09:51. > :09:52.on board, they selected the man and his travelling

:09:53. > :09:56.When he refused to get off, he was dragged down the aisle

:09:57. > :10:03.We'll talk more about that a little later.

:10:04. > :10:05.Let's talk markets now - as investors remain rather cautious,

:10:06. > :10:07.a bit nervous with some of the heighten tension

:10:08. > :10:14.The political tinderbox in the Middle East, the escalating

:10:15. > :10:17.issues around the Korean peninsula and the French elections looming -

:10:18. > :10:21.all of this sending investors heading towards the safe haven

:10:22. > :10:31.Europe - those safe havens - the Japanese yen, govt bonds,

:10:32. > :10:35.govt debt, swiss franc and of course gold.

:10:36. > :10:38.Even oil - which jumped a bit on supply worries with that US

:10:39. > :10:51.missile attack on Syria - has reversed some of those gains.

:10:52. > :10:56.So there you go - let's go and find out what'll be making the headlines

:10:57. > :10:58.over on the other side of the Atlantic -

:10:59. > :11:11.Small business owners continued their streak of as in, we'll find

:11:12. > :11:15.out later today when the National Federation of Independent business

:11:16. > :11:18.releases its monthly survey. Although small-business owner of

:11:19. > :11:24.missing data in the month of February, it stayed near long-term

:11:25. > :11:28.highs as owners remain hopeful about more business friendly policies from

:11:29. > :11:32.Washington. And speaking of small businesses, the Federal Reserve

:11:33. > :11:37.district banks will also be releasing a survey that looks at

:11:38. > :11:41.business conditions and the credit environment from the perspective of

:11:42. > :11:45.author 10,000 small-business owners who have employees. And finally, the

:11:46. > :11:51.US Labor Department will release the jolt for February, that's the job

:11:52. > :11:53.openings and labour turnover survey which economists believe will show a

:11:54. > :11:59.higher reading. Thank you. Nandini Ramakrishnan

:12:00. > :12:13.is Global Market Strategist at JP Great to see you, let's pick up on

:12:14. > :12:19.the US been, not giving away too much yesterday, tell us more. Not a

:12:20. > :12:24.great time to start hiking rates, we expect them to do two more, one in

:12:25. > :12:29.June, another in September, remember interest rate hikes are a signal

:12:30. > :12:32.that the US economy is doing way, the jobs market tight, low on

:12:33. > :12:36.employment numbers and inflation, the price moves month on month, year

:12:37. > :12:43.on year, starting to pick up closer at to the vet's all. If the US

:12:44. > :12:46.stays... I know we have the jobs number on Friday which was

:12:47. > :12:51.disappointing but typically the jobs numbers have been strong, many will

:12:52. > :12:56.say US employment is pretty full, if the US continues on a healthy track

:12:57. > :13:00.at could there be a third? The feds, one of their Fraser says they are

:13:01. > :13:05.data dependent, they are tracking it as it comes in and if it looks

:13:06. > :13:10.strong, maybe there is a chance for three more hikes, making it four on

:13:11. > :13:13.the year. There is a talk about the technical aspect, maybe they will

:13:14. > :13:18.only do two but able to get their balance sheets, see if they are

:13:19. > :13:22.buying more assets and it's reminding us as investors do

:13:23. > :13:27.combinations of monetary is or two that they can use. It becomes ever

:13:28. > :13:30.more evident of the different routes that central Bank are taking, in

:13:31. > :13:36.Europe you have a different picture to the United States. Exactly, the

:13:37. > :13:39.European Central Bank is taking a hands-off approach, purchasing

:13:40. > :13:43.assets, tying bonds in the market, towards the end of the year, good

:13:44. > :13:48.for them to keep stability as there are political issues and events in

:13:49. > :13:52.Europe, the French elections, the German elections towards the end of

:13:53. > :13:55.the year and it allows the ECB to keep policy steady through the

:13:56. > :13:59.process and keep stability in the markets when the political side will

:14:00. > :14:03.be volatile. You use the word steady, with investors, I will

:14:04. > :14:08.return to what I said on the catwalk. Investors... They are

:14:09. > :14:14.treading cautiously at the moment, a lot going on, not nice stuff going

:14:15. > :14:20.on around the world, geopolitical risk, that sees a lot of money being

:14:21. > :14:23.poured into safe havens. That's not necessarily coming at the cost of

:14:24. > :14:28.equity markets, we still see the foot sets and the global equity

:14:29. > :14:33.markets remaining stable but we see people looking into some of those

:14:34. > :14:37.safe havens, at this time it's a great principle to diversify and

:14:38. > :14:43.keep yourself broad across asset classes. -- FTSE. Good to see you.

:14:44. > :14:50.Thank you for explaining all of that. Still to come... Are they

:14:51. > :14:54.taking to a road near you? When will drivers cars become a reality and

:14:55. > :15:01.can we trust the technology? I don't know, can we. We will get the inside

:15:02. > :15:05.track. From Intel was, heading up the new driverless car division. You

:15:06. > :15:12.are with business live from BBC News!

:15:13. > :15:20.JD Sports has reported an 80% jump in annual pre-tax

:15:21. > :15:32.The company said that its sport fashion division had

:15:33. > :15:35.Joining us is George MacDonald, Executive Editor, Retail Week.

:15:36. > :15:41.Good morning to you. Let's talk first of all the results as we said,

:15:42. > :15:44.they look pretty good, but this comes after a damning investigation,

:15:45. > :15:48.one that looked at the conditions in its warehouse. The warehouse in

:15:49. > :15:52.Rochdale and it was found to be a pretty tough place to work. Just

:15:53. > :15:58.explain it for us. Yes, there was various allegations made several

:15:59. > :16:03.months ago including for instance that workers could be sacked

:16:04. > :16:07.on-the-spot. JD said at the time that it disagreed with the various

:16:08. > :16:11.claims and it mounted a review since which it makes brief reference to

:16:12. > :16:15.this morning. It got Deloitte in to have a look at conditions and says

:16:16. > :16:21.that the report was not balanced in its view. So it will hope to draw a

:16:22. > :16:25.line under those claims. George, it is Aaron here, what's the

:16:26. > :16:32.difference between Sport Direct and JD? Up, what's going on there? Yes,

:16:33. > :16:37.there are some big differences between the two companies. JD,

:16:38. > :16:40.unlike Sports Direct has very good relationships with suppliers. That

:16:41. > :16:45.means it can get exclusive product. It puts a lot of energy into making

:16:46. > :16:51.sure its stores look great and that draws customers in. It is benefiting

:16:52. > :16:55.too from this leisure trend of people wearing trainers for every

:16:56. > :16:58.purpose. Briefly, they have been talking

:16:59. > :17:02.about Brexit and about what it will mean for the business. Talk us

:17:03. > :17:07.through what they make of it all? Well, like lots of retailers they

:17:08. > :17:10.have forecast uncertainty. You have got things like the decline in value

:17:11. > :17:14.of the pound. However, they're confident they have got a business

:17:15. > :17:17.model and they're doing the right things and they can trade quick

:17:18. > :17:26.successfully through it. George, thank you very much.

:17:27. > :17:29.I want to take you to the Business Live page because all sorts of

:17:30. > :17:36.results are coming through. News from Heathrow. Growth up at

:17:37. > :17:44.Heathrow, but remember, Heathrow Airport also want the title of being

:17:45. > :17:50.Best Airport in Western Europe. It is the third time that it won. Some

:17:51. > :17:57.terminals are nice! LAUGHTER

:17:58. > :18:06.We hear a lot about the development of driverless cars, but when might

:18:07. > :18:10.they actually become common on our roads?

:18:11. > :18:13.We know major car firms and tech giants are investing billions

:18:14. > :18:19.of dollars in the industry, but when will it start to pay off?

:18:20. > :18:26.It aims to have a fully autonomous car with no steering wheel or brake

:18:27. > :18:33.By 2025, the driverless car market is expected to be worth $42 billion,

:18:34. > :18:36.according to Boston Consulting Group.

:18:37. > :18:39.IHS researchers predict there could be 76 million autonomous

:18:40. > :18:50.Intel has bought specialist technology firm

:18:51. > :18:55.It's all part of a new strategy to focus

:18:56. > :19:00.Doug Davis runs this operation and told me what that tie-up

:19:01. > :19:14.We really see the opportunity to more tightly integrate what they do

:19:15. > :19:18.with what Intel can deliver with the computing in the car in the way in

:19:19. > :19:22.which we combine data from cameras and other sensors with

:19:23. > :19:24.high-definition maps to be able to calculate where that car needs to go

:19:25. > :19:30.to get you from one point to the other. How long until autonomous

:19:31. > :19:35.cars become the norm on our roads? Many of the car manufacturers are

:19:36. > :19:39.saying that they'll start building cars that are consumer can go and

:19:40. > :19:44.purchase in 2021, that's their time frame. So we think by 2025 or so, we

:19:45. > :19:48.will start to see a pretty meaningful number of these vehicles

:19:49. > :19:53.on the road and the projections are that really takes off. We've

:19:54. > :19:58.projected that's $70 billion opportunity by the year 2030 when we

:19:59. > :20:01.look at the computing in the car and the data and the services associated

:20:02. > :20:05.with the vehicles. It sounds wonderful, but there is a lot of

:20:06. > :20:08.issues you've got to contend with, not least convincing consumers that

:20:09. > :20:14.they are safe and the security implications of it. How do you do

:20:15. > :20:18.that? We're concentrating on things like security, and privacy and how

:20:19. > :20:21.you make the systems really safe and robust, but there is that human

:20:22. > :20:25.factor, we're going to want to make sure that the car see that is

:20:26. > :20:31.bicycle or the truck that's coming up. So our Intel lab is working with

:20:32. > :20:37.our customers on technologies that can make the car give us indications

:20:38. > :20:41.that it does see something or that that car can indicate to a

:20:42. > :20:45.pedestrian standing on its corner that they see each other as well.

:20:46. > :20:48.One tier that many people might have is connectivity because when we talk

:20:49. > :20:53.about electric cars, there is the worry you won't be able to charge if

:20:54. > :20:57.you're on a long journey, what about with autonomous cars, I imagine they

:20:58. > :21:02.contact with a network and that relies on good 5G and good wi-fi?

:21:03. > :21:06.The car will be able to continue to navigate with the sensors that are

:21:07. > :21:10.in the car, the model that's in the car and the map, even though we may

:21:11. > :21:17.lose connectivity at some point other another. There was a

:21:18. > :21:20.high-profile case of, ber's autonomous car being involved in a

:21:21. > :21:24.collision. How damaging are headlines like that? 93% of fatal

:21:25. > :21:28.accidents in the United States happen because of human error.

:21:29. > :21:31.Autonomous vehicles will be safer because of the ability of the

:21:32. > :21:37.vehicle to see what's happening around it taught and be able to

:21:38. > :21:41.calculate and handle circumstances in a very predictable manner. It

:21:42. > :21:45.strikes me autonomous vehicles can make a huge difference to people

:21:46. > :21:52.with disabilities, particularly those with sight loss S that a happy

:21:53. > :21:58.bi-product or is it central to what you're trying to achieve? Mobility

:21:59. > :22:02.on demand is really important. There are so many benefits. We can think

:22:03. > :22:07.about people with disabilities, people who have some sight

:22:08. > :22:11.limitations, it will give them the ability to move around much more

:22:12. > :22:15.easily. But it will also provide a wide range of other benefits. It

:22:16. > :22:19.will reduce the amount of congestion for cars driving around looking for

:22:20. > :22:23.a parking space because we know cities are eager to put

:22:24. > :22:27.infrastructure in place that will help indicate where parking spaces

:22:28. > :22:31.are. So, if we can have that data combined with autonomous vehicles

:22:32. > :22:34.the car can drop you off at your doctor's appointment, go find a

:22:35. > :22:38.place to park and then just come back and pick you up when you're

:22:39. > :22:40.ready. It will help on that mobility on demand, but it will help with

:22:41. > :22:49.city infrastructure as well. We think about all the really big,

:22:50. > :22:54.you know, interesting things that will come as a result of driverless

:22:55. > :22:58.cars, being able to get around, but really mundane useful things like

:22:59. > :23:03.car parks can be smaller because you will be able to get dropped off at

:23:04. > :23:09.the pavement and the car will drive itself. You say there is a positive,

:23:10. > :23:15.but there are negatives. Dominic O'Connell, what's the negative? What

:23:16. > :23:21.are... If you're plan to go drink your life away and rely on having a

:23:22. > :23:26.liver transplant, 90% of all organs come from car crashes. Where are the

:23:27. > :23:32.car crashes going to happen if you only have driverless cars? It's so

:23:33. > :23:36.true. Dominic, let's talk about the stories in the papers and there is

:23:37. > :23:43.one story dominating, snaOd, it is this one, the one about United

:23:44. > :23:53.Airlines. You got the pictures. Run the pictures and we can talk. Look,

:23:54. > :23:59.I mean, the, here we go. What do you say about it Dominic? The flight was

:24:00. > :24:03.overbooked and there were four United employees flying to connect

:24:04. > :24:06.to another flight. People wouldn't take the compensation which is what

:24:07. > :24:09.normally happens. So the computer chose four people at random. A

:24:10. > :24:13.next and he said he wouldn't go. He next and he said he wouldn't go. He

:24:14. > :24:20.claimed to be a doctor and he said I have got to go and see my patients

:24:21. > :24:23.the airline called airport security staff and they knocked him about a

:24:24. > :24:28.bit. He was bleeding from his nose and mouth and social media has gone

:24:29. > :24:33.nuts and United Airlines response has been typical of a company that

:24:34. > :24:36.just doesn't get it. Not really an apology from the Chief Executive

:24:37. > :24:43.last night and it was the second statement, the first response... It

:24:44. > :24:48.was terrible. The first response was a spokesman saying we had an

:24:49. > :24:53.overbooking incident. The second one, we're sorry if anybody was

:24:54. > :24:59.distressed. It wasn't something like we got this completely wrong. Let's

:25:00. > :25:05.jump into some tweets. A lot of comments. One here from a viewer who

:25:06. > :25:10.says, "Let's stop saying the flight was overbooked. The point is

:25:11. > :25:18.everyone had seats. United needed the seats for staff." This just

:25:19. > :25:20.highlights that not just United, but we have seen other mistakes with

:25:21. > :25:24.airlines, they don't, they haven't got it yet about the social media

:25:25. > :25:28.and the speed that things can move around the world. Social media

:25:29. > :25:31.doesn't help if you knock one of your paying passengers about. You

:25:32. > :25:35.shouldn't do it and if you do it, you apologise. None of us realise

:25:36. > :25:40.what we really sign up to when we buy an airline ticket. The contract

:25:41. > :25:43.that you enter into is 37,000 words long. So they have rights to do

:25:44. > :25:46.stuff to you that you don't even think about, but as a customer,

:25:47. > :25:50.someone who buys an airline particular, I want to make sure, I

:25:51. > :25:53.want to know that I'm going to be on the flight and fly from A to B.

:25:54. > :25:58.That's the basic and that's not the case with modern airline travel.

:25:59. > :26:02.Dominic, thank you very much. Someone texted and said, "They asked

:26:03. > :26:03.the man to leave and he refused. End of story." That's it from us.

:26:04. > :26:08.Bye-bye.