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0:00:06 > 0:00:08This is Business Live from BBC News with Jamie Robertson

0:00:08 > 0:00:13and Sally Bundock.

0:00:13 > 0:00:16Boosting Britain after Brexit: The UK government sets out its plans

0:00:16 > 0:00:18for an industrial strategy to transform the economy.

0:00:18 > 0:00:20Live from London, that's our top story on Monday

0:00:20 > 0:00:22the 27th of November.

0:00:36 > 0:00:41A billion dollar deal for pharmaceuticals reasearch

0:00:41 > 0:00:45kicks of the new focus on development and technology.

0:00:45 > 0:00:47But can the Government really prescribe the right medicine

0:00:48 > 0:00:49for Britian's economy?

0:00:49 > 0:00:53Also in the programme....

0:00:53 > 0:00:54Tourism in trouble.

0:00:54 > 0:00:57One of Asia's most popular destinations is closed

0:00:57 > 0:00:59as the Indonesian authorities prepare for a major

0:00:59 > 0:01:07volcanic eruption in Bali.

0:01:07 > 0:01:09It is cyber Monday today, with retailers

0:01:09 > 0:01:11It is cyber Monday today, with retailers hoping more will part with

0:01:11 > 0:01:17their cash. Share prices in Europe, starting the week downbeat, not

0:01:17 > 0:01:19catching the retail wave.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21We'll be getting the inside track on big tobacco

0:01:21 > 0:01:23with the big boss of Philip Morris in the UK.

0:01:23 > 0:01:26Their brands include Marlboro Lights, Parliament

0:01:26 > 0:01:29and Dupont, but with the switch to e-cigarettes gathering pace can

0:01:29 > 0:01:31they ever really replace the huge profits from traditional cigarettes

0:01:31 > 0:01:35and tobacco?

0:01:35 > 0:01:38Today is Cyber Monday, last week was Black Friday...

0:01:38 > 0:01:42Are you fed-up of all these dedicated shopping days?

0:01:42 > 0:01:44The dedicated shopping days?

0:01:44 > 0:01:49Let us know - just use the hashtag BBCBizLive.

0:01:53 > 0:01:57Hello and welcome to Business Live.

0:01:57 > 0:02:01As the clock ticks down on Britian's departure from the European Union,

0:02:01 > 0:02:05the Government is keen to reshape the world's fifth biggest economy.

0:02:05 > 0:02:11And to do that it's launching a new "Industrial Strategy" as part

0:02:11 > 0:02:14of Prime Minister Theresa May's pledge to, as she put it "build

0:02:14 > 0:02:20a Britain fit for the future".

0:02:20 > 0:02:23It will focus on five major sectors of the economy the Government thinks

0:02:23 > 0:02:28the country is good at, but needs more investment.

0:02:28 > 0:02:29They include the construction, artificial intelligence

0:02:29 > 0:02:31and automotive sectors.

0:02:31 > 0:02:37Another of them is pharmaceuticals.

0:02:37 > 0:02:40The big headline is the £1 billion - that's just over $1.3 billion that

0:02:40 > 0:02:42US healthcare giant MSD is plowing

0:02:42 > 0:02:45into a new UK research centre.

0:02:47 > 0:02:52A lot of the focus is on research and development

0:02:52 > 0:02:58of new products and technology.

0:02:58 > 0:03:00The UK currently spend 1.7% of its wealth on that.

0:03:00 > 0:03:07Which is below the 2.4% average for advanced economies.

0:03:07 > 0:03:09Michael Jacobs is director of the Commission on Economic Justice

0:03:09 > 0:03:16at the UK think tank the Institute for Public Policy Research.

0:03:16 > 0:03:24Michael De... It's quite interesting, this government, a

0:03:24 > 0:03:26Conservative government, very against industrial strategy,

0:03:26 > 0:03:30government interference. Does it really need one?Almost every other

0:03:30 > 0:03:33developed country in the world has an industrial strategy and is not

0:03:33 > 0:03:37controversial. It is not something that provides left and right in most

0:03:37 > 0:03:41countries. But here, the Conservative Party in general fields

0:03:41 > 0:03:45if you leave markets and general enterprise to their own devices, it

0:03:45 > 0:03:49generates the best results of the economy. The problem is as generated

0:03:49 > 0:03:53very good results for our economy, as we are beginning to realise, and

0:03:53 > 0:04:01as the Chancellor had to admit last week when the ONS downgraded our

0:04:01 > 0:04:04productivity. This is a very welcome sense that the government

0:04:04 > 0:04:07acknowledges that it self, government has to be more active.

0:04:07 > 0:04:11What kind of leavers do you think the government has to pull in order

0:04:11 > 0:04:16to be able to push forward... Productivity is one of the big

0:04:16 > 0:04:21questions, so much in the news over the last few weeks. Tiago it is a

0:04:21 > 0:04:23bickering, industrial strategy. Saying the government needs to

0:04:23 > 0:04:25intervene in most parts of the economy to get investment moving

0:04:25 > 0:04:29better. The thing we have heard about in the headlines this morning

0:04:29 > 0:04:33is innovation.Britain is good at something is, pharmaceuticals,

0:04:33 > 0:04:38automotive and so on. But in a narrow range of sectors. If you look

0:04:38 > 0:04:42at Germany, which supports more than us, it is innovative across a range

0:04:42 > 0:04:45of sectors. The government needs to make sure businesses are investing

0:04:45 > 0:04:51in research and development. As you we in the invest much less of our

0:04:51 > 0:04:55national income, and among a range of sectors. Money put it in to

0:04:55 > 0:05:02support businesses to do that.It is to do with new technology?To

0:05:02 > 0:05:06develop new technology, such as pharmaceuticals or artificial

0:05:06 > 0:05:09intelligence or driverless vehicles. The government has also been talking

0:05:09 > 0:05:13a lot about productivity, which is how much we make every hour we work.

0:05:13 > 0:05:17Where Britain's product red -- productivity record is terrible,

0:05:17 > 0:05:21much worse than Germany, France or the United States and stalled since

0:05:21 > 0:05:29the financial crisis. But supporting innovative frontier companies does

0:05:29 > 0:05:31not raise productivity, because those companies are already very

0:05:31 > 0:05:37productive.It is a big hinterland of British companies.Ordinary firms

0:05:37 > 0:05:44in the everyday economy, firms in retail or wholesale or tourism an

0:05:44 > 0:05:46hospitality, food and drink.Leaving the government will do anything

0:05:46 > 0:05:50about that?That's what we're waiting to see when industrial

0:05:50 > 0:05:55strategy is published. Can improve the improvements in productivity?

0:05:55 > 0:05:58What could it do?What we know is most businesses don't realise they

0:05:58 > 0:06:02are not as productive as they could be. There is a huge disparity

0:06:02 > 0:06:05between the productivity of the best, the average in the worst,

0:06:05 > 0:06:08especially around the country, some parts of the country much less

0:06:08 > 0:06:12productive than others most businesses don't know that. Giving

0:06:12 > 0:06:16businesses advice and support and getting them to install new

0:06:16 > 0:06:20technologies and installing technologies which has been around a

0:06:20 > 0:06:32long time, ordinary digital economies, will help them

0:06:33 > 0:06:35improve productivity. That is what will make Britain richer and enable

0:06:35 > 0:06:38us to pay higher wages.Boring and ordered my stuff.Not if you are in

0:06:38 > 0:06:41that sector. What people know now is their wages have been stagnant for a

0:06:41 > 0:06:45a decade.Fascinating, thank you very much indeed.

0:06:45 > 0:06:48More on that industrial strategy throughout the day. We will be

0:06:48 > 0:06:51looking at it, the really big story in business today.

0:06:51 > 0:06:54Let's take a look at some of the other stories

0:06:54 > 0:06:55making the news...

0:06:55 > 0:06:59The US media group, Time Inc, is to be bought a rival corporation

0:06:59 > 0:07:01in a deal backed by two conservative billionaires, the Koch Brothers.

0:07:01 > 0:07:04The Meredith group said the agreement was reached in talks

0:07:04 > 0:07:06on Sunday to buy up Time's outstanding shares in a deal

0:07:06 > 0:07:08valued at $2.8 billion.

0:07:08 > 0:07:11Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro has appointed an army general

0:07:11 > 0:07:13as head of the state owned PDVSA oil company - and also

0:07:13 > 0:07:15as energy minister.

0:07:15 > 0:07:19In a televised address, Mr Maduro said the new appointment

0:07:19 > 0:07:26was aimed at tackling corruption in the sector.

0:07:26 > 0:07:29The country is under pressure to deal with its huge debts.

0:07:29 > 0:07:33Shares in the Japanese computer games giant Ninetendo have hit

0:07:33 > 0:07:36a new nine year high, thanks to Black Friday.

0:07:36 > 0:07:38They closed up nearly 2.5% thanks to strong sales of the Switch

0:07:38 > 0:07:41console which has continued to sell well all over the world

0:07:41 > 0:07:44since its launch in March.

0:07:44 > 0:07:47One of Asia's most popular tourist destinations is being closed down

0:07:47 > 0:07:51because of the imminent threat of a major volanic eruption.

0:07:51 > 0:07:54Mount Agung on the Indonesian island of Bali has been emitting huge

0:07:54 > 0:07:57plumes of smoke and fire which could also pose a dange

0:07:57 > 0:08:03to airplanes in the region.

0:08:03 > 0:08:12Our Asia Business Correspondent, Karishma Vaswani, is in Singapore.

0:08:12 > 0:08:18Just tell us about the warnings, some are saying we could see an

0:08:18 > 0:08:25eruption within 24 hours.Yes, well sadly there have been warnings from

0:08:25 > 0:08:30the Indonesian officials since late yesterday, in fact. Thousands of

0:08:30 > 0:08:34terrorists have been stranded in Bali because of these worries,

0:08:34 > 0:08:37mainly volcanic ash as a result of the fact Mount Agung was seen

0:08:37 > 0:08:44committing these continuous ash parts and there were explosive

0:08:44 > 0:08:48eruptions and ash billowing thousands of metres and the air.

0:08:48 > 0:08:52Officials in Indonesia raised the alert at the Mount Agung volcano to

0:08:52 > 0:08:55level four, the highest level, because of concerns that the

0:08:55 > 0:09:00potential of a larger eruption. It is very difficult, vulcanologists

0:09:00 > 0:09:05say, to predict exactly when that eruption may be all the size of the

0:09:05 > 0:09:10eruption that officials are taking no chances. They have closed the

0:09:10 > 0:09:13only International Airport on the airport, at least until tomorrow

0:09:13 > 0:09:17morning. Every six hours there is an evaluation of how bad the situation

0:09:17 > 0:09:23is. More than 400 flights have been affected, with heirlooms including

0:09:23 > 0:09:25Qantas and Malaysian airlines cancelling flights to and from the

0:09:25 > 0:09:39eye lines. -- airlines.The European market, as you saw earlier, are all

0:09:39 > 0:09:43headed low as we start a new trading week. That follows the mood in Asia

0:09:43 > 0:09:47as well. We were talking more detail about the markets for the moment but

0:09:47 > 0:09:51let's have a look ahead to the Dale Wall Street with Samir Hussein.

0:09:52 > 0:09:53Now that the American Thanksgiving holiday

0:09:53 > 0:09:56and Black Friday are behind us, it's time to look ahead

0:09:56 > 0:09:58to Cyber Monday, generally when people do a lot

0:09:58 > 0:10:00of their online shopping.

0:10:00 > 0:10:03So, online retailers are trying to attract shoppers

0:10:03 > 0:10:07by offering deals that are not available in stores.

0:10:07 > 0:10:12So they incentivise customers with discounts and free

0:10:12 > 0:10:15shipping deals online, ahead of the Christmas season.

0:10:15 > 0:10:18In related news, fresh consumer spending numbers for the month

0:10:18 > 0:10:21of November are out on Thursday, and analysts are expecting to see

0:10:21 > 0:10:25a slight drop compared to the month before.

0:10:25 > 0:10:33On Wednesday, Federal Reserve chair Janet Yelland

0:10:33 > 0:10:35testifies before US lawmakers on the US economic outlook.

0:10:35 > 0:10:38This comes just two weeks before the next Central Bank meeting

0:10:38 > 0:10:43and it's expected to raise interest rates then and this will also likely

0:10:43 > 0:10:45be Ms Yelland's final appearance before Congress,

0:10:45 > 0:10:47as a replacement Fed governor Jerome Powell

0:10:47 > 0:10:49is set to take over as leader early next year.

0:10:49 > 0:10:51Joining us is Mike Bell, Global Market Strategist at JP

0:10:52 > 0:10:55Morgan Asset Management.

0:10:55 > 0:11:00Let's start in China. We saw some quite sharp sell-off sat the end of

0:11:00 > 0:11:07last week, 3% down on Friday and more today. What people about, debt?

0:11:07 > 0:11:12A couple of concerns. The Chinese economy we expect to slow in 2018,

0:11:12 > 0:11:15so it grows at 6% rather than seventh and we've been seeing for

0:11:15 > 0:11:19most of this year. It is important that that in perspective. It is

0:11:19 > 0:11:23still growing significantly faster than most other market economies,

0:11:23 > 0:11:26because of the strength and consumption coming through. But some

0:11:26 > 0:11:29concerns around debt levels, particularly in the corporate sector

0:11:29 > 0:11:34and a little bit of profit taking on shares of done well.Should we be

0:11:34 > 0:11:45worrying about it?

0:11:46 > 0:11:49I think the likelihood of having a serious impact on the UK or global

0:11:49 > 0:11:52economy is quite low, because as long as it delivers 6% growth, it

0:11:52 > 0:11:54will be supportive of the global economy.Markets this week, Europe

0:11:54 > 0:11:56starting the week fairly flat, a little downbeat and lacklustre. We

0:11:56 > 0:11:59ended last week in holiday mode in the united states. Cyber Monday

0:11:59 > 0:12:01today. Give us your take on Black Friday, cyber Monday, all these

0:12:01 > 0:12:10events, will it help the retailers? What is fascinating is if you look

0:12:10 > 0:12:16at the singles day sales, in China, north of $25 billion worth of sales.

0:12:16 > 0:12:21In 24 hours?Yes, far more than you saw in the US last year. About four

0:12:21 > 0:12:28times more than they did across Black Friday and Cyber Monday. The

0:12:28 > 0:12:31problem for retailers is if they discount too much, they may it an

0:12:31 > 0:12:34increased amount of sales but the profits may not look quite as good.

0:12:34 > 0:12:38I think you have to look at it over the whole Christmas period and see

0:12:38 > 0:12:43what retail sales are right. You look at the UK economy, signs are

0:12:43 > 0:12:46not laggard. Lower football and consumer confidence has been

0:12:46 > 0:12:52deteriorating in the last 12 months. We will get numbers out of Europe

0:12:52 > 0:12:56this week which will be closely watched and should be good?In

0:12:56 > 0:13:00contrast to the UK where there has been deteriorating consumer

0:13:00 > 0:13:02confidence, in the Eurozone consumer confidence has continue to improve.

0:13:02 > 0:13:07We expect that to be destroyed asleep. As consumer confidence picks

0:13:07 > 0:13:11up, consumption, retail sales in Europe are rising. Quite a positive

0:13:11 > 0:13:15picture in Europe but are less good one here.One example of consumer

0:13:15 > 0:13:18confidence here, we asked people if they were fed up with all these

0:13:18 > 0:13:23Cyber Monday and the rest of it. Tony says, never! That is one

0:13:23 > 0:13:27example of consumer confidence. Do you think there is an element of

0:13:27 > 0:13:31sarcasm? I don't think so, I think it's

0:13:31 > 0:13:35genuine, believes it, I can tell. Interesting the price of oil has

0:13:35 > 0:13:38come down a little bit. Interesting to keep an eye on that this week as

0:13:38 > 0:13:44well.Our view is the oil price has come up a fair bit over the last

0:13:44 > 0:13:47year and will probably stay somewhere below the $60 a barrel

0:13:47 > 0:13:52range. Somewhere in the 50- $60 a barrel. We think it is more likely

0:13:52 > 0:13:57to trade sideways rather than make serious games.We will get back to

0:13:57 > 0:14:02you shortly. We will also talk about another investment, Victor Keunen.

0:14:02 > 0:14:061007 this year. Just the beginning! We will get your opinion on it

0:14:06 > 0:14:09later. -- on temporary map.

0:14:10 > 0:14:11Still to come...

0:14:11 > 0:14:14We'll speak to the big boss of Philip Morris in the UK

0:14:14 > 0:14:16about whether e-cigarettes can really replace the big profits

0:14:16 > 0:14:22of traditional tobacco You're with Business Live from BBC News.

0:14:26 > 0:14:28We will be back with you.

0:14:42 > 0:14:44National Consumer Week launches today, and this year it's

0:14:44 > 0:14:46focusing on problematic subscriptions and

0:14:46 > 0:14:50subscription traps.

0:14:50 > 0:14:52Let's find out more, joining us now is Tom MacInnes,

0:14:52 > 0:14:57head of data at Citizens Advice.

0:14:57 > 0:15:01What is a subscription trap?We get hundreds of people calling our

0:15:01 > 0:15:03helpline with problems with subscriptions where they have signed

0:15:03 > 0:15:06up for something and found that really easy and found it really hard

0:15:06 > 0:15:10to leave and they end up running up more costs when they are trying to

0:15:10 > 0:15:14give up their subscription. So for instance we had a woman who wanted

0:15:14 > 0:15:18to give up the subscription to her gym and in the terms and conditions,

0:15:18 > 0:15:23if she lost her job, she was allowed to leave and when she lost her job

0:15:23 > 0:15:26she presented that evidence and they asked for more evidence and asked

0:15:26 > 0:15:30for a P45 and dragged out the process so she was paying for

0:15:30 > 0:15:34something that she didn't want or need and made it difficult for her.

0:15:34 > 0:15:38What protection is there against that kind of thing? Do we have a leg

0:15:38 > 0:15:43to stand on as a consumer if we haven't read all the small print?

0:15:43 > 0:15:46Well, it is the responsibility of the companies to act in a

0:15:46 > 0:15:49responsible way and not put unnecessary barriers in the way, but

0:15:49 > 0:15:52it is really important that you check the terms and conditions

0:15:52 > 0:15:57before you sign up and one of the things that we're concerned about

0:15:57 > 0:16:01this week is around online subscription. It is easy to tick a

0:16:01 > 0:16:06box online and it is not clear what you are signing up to is an on going

0:16:06 > 0:16:10commitment rather than a one off cost.Can you give us some golden

0:16:10 > 0:16:16rules?The obvious thing which is to check the terms and conditions.But

0:16:16 > 0:16:20they can go on for pages and pages? That's right, but the key part in

0:16:20 > 0:16:26that then if you want to leave is around the cancellation policy.

0:16:26 > 0:16:29Check what the con sellation policy and make sure you are stuck to go

0:16:29 > 0:16:32that. If you want to speak to someone, it is customer services and

0:16:32 > 0:16:35if you are having problems, the Citizens Advice helpline is there to

0:16:35 > 0:16:42help you out too.Tom, we appreciate your time. There is a lot more on

0:16:42 > 0:16:47that story on our websitement take a look.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50Looking at president BBC Live page on our website. We have got driving

0:16:50 > 0:16:55in the dark. It is really bizarre picture of a rather weird looking

0:16:55 > 0:17:02car! There you go.

0:17:08 > 0:17:11LAUGHTER Technology is letting us down. We

0:17:11 > 0:17:16will be back if our technology holds up in a second!

0:17:16 > 0:17:17You're watching Business Live.

0:17:17 > 0:17:20Our top story:

0:17:20 > 0:17:24The Buck Business Secretary has told the BBC that the Government's new

0:17:24 > 0:17:28industrial strategy, which is being launched today, will make a massive

0:17:28 > 0:17:34amount of difference to the economy after Brexit. That's his promise.

0:17:34 > 0:17:39A quick look at how markets are faring.

0:17:39 > 0:17:44Our computer works. The FTSE hasn't moved at all. The DAX are down a

0:17:44 > 0:17:49touch and the pound is looking stronger. It was down at about 1.32

0:17:49 > 0:17:53at the end of last week, but it seems to have cofrd a little.

0:17:53 > 0:17:56When is smoking not really smoking?

0:17:56 > 0:17:58Well more and more tobacco giants are diversifying away

0:17:58 > 0:18:00from conventional cigarettes.

0:18:00 > 0:18:03The number of cigarettes sold globally is continuing to fall

0:18:03 > 0:18:07as people seek to avoid what can be a deadly habit.

0:18:07 > 0:18:10The world's biggest international tobacco firm by sales,

0:18:10 > 0:18:16Philip Morris, is investing heavily in developing smoke free products.

0:18:16 > 0:18:23It says four million people are already using its IQOS product

0:18:23 > 0:18:26which works by heating up tobacco rather than by burning it.

0:18:26 > 0:18:28Peter Nixon is the UK and Ireland Managing Director

0:18:28 > 0:18:36of Philip Morris International.

0:18:36 > 0:18:41Good morning.Good morning.What is it, IQOS?

0:18:41 > 0:18:47Heated tobacco. How does it work. IQOS. We launched a couple of years

0:18:47 > 0:18:53ago. It heats rather than burns tobacco. You use a tobacco stick and

0:18:53 > 0:18:56you put it in a holder and it releases a vapour. Because it heats

0:18:56 > 0:19:02it to a certain temperature, it doesn't burn and releases 90% to 95%

0:19:02 > 0:19:06of the harmful things you find in smoke. We launched in Japan in 2014

0:19:06 > 0:19:09and we have seen incredible results and seven out of ten people who buy

0:19:09 > 0:19:13this product are able to stop smoking and move to it and that's

0:19:13 > 0:19:16unprecedented in our industry. For electronic second receipts we see

0:19:16 > 0:19:2120%, seven out of ten people is incredible. Four million people

0:19:21 > 0:19:24already have switched and we see 8,000 to 10,000 people switching

0:19:24 > 0:19:31every day, stopping smoking and moving to this.One, are you

0:19:31 > 0:19:36marketing this to just users of conventional cigarettes? Two, are

0:19:36 > 0:19:39you marketing it to people who don't smoke?This is a product for

0:19:39 > 0:19:43smokers. So we have 7.5 million smokers in the UK. This is the

0:19:43 > 0:19:48market I look after. Our objective is to switch those 7.5 million

0:19:48 > 0:19:52people to IQOS or electronic cigarettes and reduced risk

0:19:52 > 0:19:55products.You wouldn't mind people taking it up for the first time if

0:19:55 > 0:20:00they never smoked before?Our focus is for smokers. Since we have

0:20:00 > 0:20:05launched the product in Japan, we see that vast majority, 99% of

0:20:05 > 0:20:12people who use the product are smokers. Because it uses tobacco and

0:20:12 > 0:20:16heats tobacco, it is close to the ritual that with cigarettes.You

0:20:16 > 0:20:21focus on the UK and Ireland. What percentage of your sales is

0:20:21 > 0:20:25traditional cigarettes and these new products, the e-cigarettes are

0:20:25 > 0:20:29heated tobacco?It is small. The heated tobacco we launched one year.

0:20:29 > 0:20:37And IQOS one year. Electronic rig receipts we have had for a number of

0:20:37 > 0:20:44years.A tiny percentage?Heated tobacco is a tiny percentage. You

0:20:44 > 0:20:51are talking four or five percent. Sorry to interrupt. By switching

0:20:51 > 0:20:54from the traditional smokers to the heated product that's a huge task

0:20:54 > 0:20:59ahead, isn't it?Technology has moved fast and my objective is to

0:20:59 > 0:21:03stop selling cigarettes and replace the cigarettes with these things. If

0:21:03 > 0:21:08we look at Japan, 15% of smokers have moved to this. We sell more of

0:21:08 > 0:21:13those products...But what percentage profit do you make, so a

0:21:13 > 0:21:19packet of traditional cigarettes compared to a packet of heated?

0:21:19 > 0:21:24Well, at the moment we have just launched. They haven't turned a

0:21:24 > 0:21:28profit yet because we have spent $3 billion in developing the product

0:21:28 > 0:21:31and the research and development and 400 scientists in Switzerland who

0:21:31 > 0:21:35are developing it.You can't have done it without working out what

0:21:35 > 0:21:39your profit margin will be? You want to remain a profitable company

0:21:39 > 0:21:45afterwards.Absolutely.It is more profitable or less profitable?It

0:21:45 > 0:21:49depends how many people switch to them. We have to see because we have

0:21:49 > 0:21:53invested so much up to now. We have to see how it goes in the future.

0:21:53 > 0:21:57The potential of the product is massive. 7.5 million people smoke

0:21:57 > 0:22:01who want to stop smoking and this provides an alternative.Give us

0:22:01 > 0:22:07some of the figures on how dangerous it is. It will still kill you and it

0:22:07 > 0:22:11has warnings on the packet?When compared with the smoke you find in

0:22:11 > 0:22:20a cigarette and versus the harmful chemicals, 90 to 95% less harmful

0:22:20 > 0:22:28chemicals. This is what gives us confidence that this can be a

0:22:28 > 0:22:32reduced tobacco product.Someone tweeted to ask do you smoke?I use

0:22:32 > 0:22:38the IQOS product myself.What's it like?I am not a big smoker, but I

0:22:38 > 0:22:45use it as a social smoker, but I have switched from smoking to this.

0:22:45 > 0:22:50It is a shame we've run out of time. So much more to discuss. Thank you

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0:23:32 > 0:23:34What other business stories has the media been

0:23:34 > 0:23:44taking an interest in?

0:23:44 > 0:23:49Mike Bell is back.

0:23:49 > 0:23:51He is Global Market Strategist at JP Morgan Asset Management

0:23:51 > 0:23:57joins us once more.

0:23:57 > 0:24:02I am getting excited about Bitcoin. Don't put any money into it that you

0:24:02 > 0:24:07can't afford. Anything that exhibits that kind of price gain, it looks

0:24:07 > 0:24:11too good to be true usually ends up...This is different this time.

0:24:11 > 0:24:16That's what they always say! There is a lot of risks in it. The

0:24:16 > 0:24:22currency that backs it has a great future ahead, but Bitcoin, I think

0:24:22 > 0:24:28there are significant risks.It is a rare commodity. It is very difficult

0:24:28 > 0:24:32to mine them and create them anymore. It is a rare commodity. It

0:24:32 > 0:24:37is like houses in the UK! So, if you have got a limited supply, the price

0:24:37 > 0:24:43is going to continue to go up? Supply and demand.The problem with

0:24:43 > 0:24:47Bitcoin it is not backed by a government. So if it ever becomes

0:24:47 > 0:24:51significant enough that governments want to be able to control it, then

0:24:51 > 0:25:01there is just the serious risk... Central Bank. Let's move on.This is

0:25:01 > 0:25:07the ultimate internet play. The bubble is yet to burst.

0:25:07 > 0:25:10Speculators are doing well. One more comment about the various retail

0:25:10 > 0:25:17days. We were talking about this earlier in the green room how this

0:25:17 > 0:25:20impacts retailers who can't afford, the smaller players, who can't

0:25:20 > 0:25:24afford to discount against the likes of Amazon who can afford to take a

0:25:24 > 0:25:27hit for a couple of months in the run-up to Christmas?It is a huge

0:25:27 > 0:25:33problem and it is not just on Black Friday, you see online retailers

0:25:33 > 0:25:36with massive scale competing against smaller players that don't have the

0:25:36 > 0:25:39capacity to compete with the large players. That's not something that's

0:25:39 > 0:25:43going to go away and that poses a risk to the smaller players which

0:25:43 > 0:25:47are being dominated by the larger players such as Amazon.Mike Bell,

0:25:47 > 0:25:50thank you very much indeed for joining us on Business Live.

0:25:50 > 0:25:55We will be back again tomorrow, won't we? That's it for the moment.

0:25:55 > 0:26:00That's it, we will see you soon. Have a good day. Bye-bye.