08/02/2018

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0:00:05 > 0:00:07This is Business Live from BBC News with Susannah Streeter

0:00:07 > 0:00:09and Victoria Fritz.

0:00:09 > 0:00:13Fake news backlash - social media users are angry

0:00:13 > 0:00:15and lawmakers want to know what the big tech companies

0:00:15 > 0:00:18are doing to combat the growing problem.

0:00:18 > 0:00:20Live from London, that's our top story on Thursday

0:00:20 > 0:00:22the 8th of February.

0:00:37 > 0:00:43Twitter, YouTube and Facebook will face a grilling by UK members

0:00:43 > 0:00:45of paliament in Washington over their "completely inadequate"

0:00:45 > 0:00:46approach to fake news.

0:00:46 > 0:00:49Also in the programme - shining a light on the Dark Web.

0:00:49 > 0:00:51The US breaks a cybercrime ring that traded stolen bank

0:00:51 > 0:00:58details around the world.

0:00:58 > 0:01:03This is the situation on the financial markets. In Europe, down

0:01:03 > 0:01:07across the borders that volatility continues.

0:01:07 > 0:01:09And, with health services increasingly stretched,

0:01:09 > 0:01:12could home testing kits like this one help bear the burden?

0:01:12 > 0:01:14And, our Twitter question of the day -

0:01:14 > 0:01:16are you fed up with fake news?

0:01:16 > 0:01:18Should tech companies be doing more to keep your

0:01:19 > 0:01:24newsfeed fake-news free?

0:01:24 > 0:01:26That is a tongue twister!

0:01:26 > 0:01:29Just use the hashtag #BBCBizLive.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39Hello and welcome.

0:01:39 > 0:01:42We start with the growing backlash against social media companies

0:01:42 > 0:01:44over their role in the spread of fake news.

0:01:44 > 0:01:47Today executives from Facebook - YouTube which is owned by Google -

0:01:47 > 0:01:51and Twitter will be questioned about the issue by British members

0:01:51 > 0:01:52of parliament at a public hearing in Washington.

0:01:52 > 0:01:59Critics have given the tech giants an unflattering new acronym: BAADD.

0:01:59 > 0:02:00As in Big, Anti-competitive, Addictive and Destructive

0:02:00 > 0:02:03to Democracy.

0:02:03 > 0:02:08Last month, Facebook reacted to criticism by refocusing

0:02:08 > 0:02:10on updates from friends and family, rather than news

0:02:10 > 0:02:12publishers and brands.

0:02:12 > 0:02:15It says that has led to people spending 50 million fewer hours

0:02:15 > 0:02:19a day on the network - a fall of around 5%.

0:02:19 > 0:02:21Facebook has admitted 146 million users may have been subjected

0:02:21 > 0:02:23to Russian misinformation, before and after the US

0:02:23 > 0:02:28Presidential election.

0:02:32 > 0:02:33Jason Karaian, the global finance and economics editor

0:02:33 > 0:02:35at Quartz, joins me now.

0:02:35 > 0:02:42Thank you for joining us. We tend to think of fake news being something

0:02:42 > 0:02:48that we read, but is it also something we can quantify, something

0:02:48 > 0:02:54we can consume, something we can buy and trade?We are starting to.

0:02:54 > 0:02:58Twitter has been explaining and upping the numbers of people that

0:02:58 > 0:03:05have seen Russian disinformation. We are starting to identify some of the

0:03:05 > 0:03:10most popular forms of disinformation. These hearings will

0:03:10 > 0:03:17get to the bottom of that little bit. The companies themselves are

0:03:17 > 0:03:21now realising they are not neutral platforms, in a massive change of

0:03:21 > 0:03:25tone, they are disseminating some of this disinformation, fake news, so

0:03:25 > 0:03:29they need some way to quantify it. It is something they can't just

0:03:29 > 0:03:34pretend that they are just a platform letting it washed through

0:03:34 > 0:03:38and they don't have any responsibility for it.That is

0:03:38 > 0:03:42certainly true cost of you have called it a massive change of tone.

0:03:42 > 0:03:48Surely a big change of tone would be putting up the chief executives of

0:03:48 > 0:03:52these companies. These are middle management people. Apologies to the

0:03:52 > 0:03:55people, and sure they are very good at their jobs but these are not the

0:03:55 > 0:03:59bosses of these companies and quite frankly, it was MPs from Britain who

0:03:59 > 0:04:03had to go to Washington, all the way across the pond, to find and speak

0:04:03 > 0:04:09to them in the first place.These tech companies with fake it is the

0:04:09 > 0:04:14Public policy executives who are there and it is not unique to these

0:04:14 > 0:04:20particular hearings. That's what these companies have done. Those of

0:04:20 > 0:04:24the spokespeople they have put forward on who they say are at the

0:04:24 > 0:04:30forefront of deciding the company's responses. Frankly, for optics

0:04:30 > 0:04:33purposes, putting Mark Zuckerberg in front of MPs that that is not

0:04:33 > 0:04:39something they want, so they would rather put those more mid-level

0:04:39 > 0:04:42lawyerly executives in front. It is shrewd on their part.We have seen

0:04:42 > 0:04:46this kind of grilling before, does it make that much of an impact or do

0:04:46 > 0:04:51you think we will see more impact and real changes at social media

0:04:51 > 0:04:55companies of investor say, we are going to pull money out because

0:04:55 > 0:05:02there is a start of that Jared Kushner there is a sharp reaction to

0:05:02 > 0:05:08that and the groundswell of public opinion.-- there is the start of

0:05:08 > 0:05:14that? I think I would probably have a bigger impact if user engagement

0:05:14 > 0:05:17went on, if people started deleting their accounts and if investors

0:05:17 > 0:05:20started to sell their shares. I think that would have a lot more

0:05:20 > 0:05:25effect than a few MPs flying over the ocean to talk to lawyers.Thank

0:05:25 > 0:05:29you very much for coming in and talking us through that, Jason.

0:05:29 > 0:05:31Let's take a look at some of the other stories

0:05:31 > 0:05:32making the news...

0:05:32 > 0:05:37The electric car maker Tesla has posted its worst

0:05:37 > 0:05:39ever quarterly loss - some 675 million in the three

0:05:39 > 0:05:40months to December.

0:05:40 > 0:05:47The firm warned that spending will increase this year.

0:05:47 > 0:05:50But it has stuck to its target of producing 5000 Model 3's

0:05:50 > 0:05:55a week by the end of the second quarter.

0:05:55 > 0:05:58Major Japanese investors in Britain are due to meet the UK Prime

0:05:58 > 0:06:00Minister and Chancellor on Thursday.

0:06:00 > 0:06:01They include carmakers Nissan, Toyota and Honda -

0:06:01 > 0:06:03along with banks and drug companies.

0:06:03 > 0:06:06It comes amid fresh debate among business over Brexit negotiations.

0:06:07 > 0:06:1021st Century Fox says it continues to expect UK approval

0:06:10 > 0:06:13of its takeover of broadcaster Sky, despite a provisional finding

0:06:13 > 0:06:19that the deal is not in the public interest.

0:06:19 > 0:06:22Chief executive James Murdoch has told analysts the firm is working

0:06:22 > 0:06:27with authorities to resolve concerns.

0:06:27 > 0:06:29Officials in the United States say they've broken up a major

0:06:29 > 0:06:36international cyber-crime ring.

0:06:36 > 0:06:3936 people have been charged with being part of a group

0:06:39 > 0:06:42which deals in stolen credit cards, bank fraud and ID theft.

0:06:42 > 0:06:44The US Department of Justice says the group trafficked stolen

0:06:44 > 0:06:47identities across five continents using an online forum on the Dark

0:06:47 > 0:06:51Web known as "In-fraud".

0:06:51 > 0:06:54More on that story a little later in the programme.

0:06:54 > 0:06:58To Asia now - and in the last couple of hours China has posted a healthy

0:06:58 > 0:07:01set of trade figures for January.

0:07:01 > 0:07:04In particular, a big jump in imports because of

0:07:04 > 0:07:05a stronger domestic economy.

0:07:05 > 0:07:12Leisha Santorelli joins us from our Asia business hub in Singapore.

0:07:12 > 0:07:19It really goes to the heart of the changing nature of China and its

0:07:19 > 0:07:25economy.The data shows that growth remains robust in the world's second

0:07:25 > 0:07:29largest economy, absolutely. Imports beat estimates by a really wide

0:07:29 > 0:07:35margin, rising by 37% in value from a year earlier. To compare that,

0:07:35 > 0:07:39markets were expecting a 10% rise. As for Xbox, they rose about 11%,

0:07:39 > 0:07:46which shows they are still in strong demand. Another interesting point I

0:07:46 > 0:07:49want to make, China's trade surplus with America narrowed from last

0:07:49 > 0:07:54year's record level, which is a positive sign to Beijing, given they

0:07:54 > 0:07:57have a very sensitive trade relationship with President Trump.

0:07:57 > 0:08:01Analysts are saying we need to treat this set of data with some caution

0:08:01 > 0:08:06and that is because the trade members are actually being magnified

0:08:06 > 0:08:09by something called seasonal volatility. For example, there was a

0:08:09 > 0:08:13surge in oil shipments last month because they had freezing weather in

0:08:13 > 0:08:18China and there has been stockpiling ahead of the Chinese New Year, which

0:08:18 > 0:08:21starts next week. Overall, trade growth expected to be strong but

0:08:21 > 0:08:28these sets of figures are magnified. Thank you very much.

0:08:28 > 0:08:33Let's check in with the financial markets.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36Most major Asian indices rose today, following the week's sharp losses

0:08:36 > 0:08:39but it's pretty choppy out there - with

0:08:39 > 0:08:43traders are struggling to get a firm footing in this volatile climate.

0:08:43 > 0:08:51The Hang Seng is up. The Dow closed lower again. Let's take a look at

0:08:51 > 0:09:01Europe. They are all down as well. The temporal map. Looking ahead to

0:09:01 > 0:09:06the Bank of England to find out their financial policy.

0:09:06 > 0:09:10And Joe Miller has the details about what's ahead on Wall Street Today.

0:09:10 > 0:09:13They wonder what on Thursday as Twitter, which has despite its

0:09:13 > 0:09:17global reach never reported a profit since it debuted on the stock

0:09:17 > 0:09:23market. It is expected to do so at last, thanks in large part to an

0:09:23 > 0:09:27aggressive year of cost-cutting. Twitter has been buoyed by its most

0:09:27 > 0:09:30famous user, of course, Donald Trump. Investors, they will be

0:09:30 > 0:09:34looking elsewhere to see if the user base as a whole is growing,

0:09:34 > 0:09:38particularly outside of the United States. Talking of Donald Trump, we

0:09:38 > 0:09:42will see if he has revived the fortunes of the media with Wall

0:09:42 > 0:09:46Street owner News Corp and the New York Times publishing results. And

0:09:46 > 0:09:53video game publisher Activision blizzard, the makers of Call Of

0:09:53 > 0:09:59Duty. They are expected to report a rise in revenue, helped by titles

0:09:59 > 0:10:05over Christmas. Gamers will be searching for clues about the

0:10:05 > 0:10:07company's plans for 2018.

0:10:07 > 0:10:09Joining us is Jeremy Stretch, head of currency strategy,

0:10:09 > 0:10:12CIBC World Markets.

0:10:12 > 0:10:17Good morning.Welcome to the programme. Let's start with

0:10:17 > 0:10:21something Suzanne mentioned. It is ready about what is happening

0:10:21 > 0:10:25later on with the ECB and Bank of England. We will have the minutes of

0:10:25 > 0:10:29their discussions, the meeting coming up and it will give us some

0:10:29 > 0:10:32sort of direction towards their monetary policy. It was fears of

0:10:32 > 0:10:35rapid interest rate rises that led to that market sell off earlier in

0:10:35 > 0:10:40the week?Absolutely. Everything is revolving around central banks, as

0:10:40 > 0:10:47we gradually move past the era of ultra low interest rates and

0:10:47 > 0:10:50expectations moving up. The Bank of England, we're not expecting any

0:10:50 > 0:10:54policy changes today but I wouldn't be necessary over Lee surprised if a

0:10:54 > 0:10:57couple of members of the committee vote for an immediate rate hike.

0:10:57 > 0:11:04Then we have Mark Carney giving his press briefing on the forecast and I

0:11:04 > 0:11:06think markets will be looking at guidance as to where the Bank of

0:11:06 > 0:11:11England are going, how quickly they will try to normalise policy. But of

0:11:11 > 0:11:14course, there is that elephant in the room, relating to Brexit

0:11:14 > 0:11:18negotiations which will have an impact.How much guidance can you

0:11:18 > 0:11:20give, given the elephant in the room?Everything has to be

0:11:20 > 0:11:25qualified. I think if you could have excluded the Brexit story, I think

0:11:25 > 0:11:30markets would be discounting a reasonable possibility of a hike. In

0:11:30 > 0:11:34May, when we get them max forecasts. Looking at that sort of timing, I

0:11:34 > 0:11:38think it's far too ambitious. I think if we look at the

0:11:38 > 0:11:44deterioration or reversal we have seen in the indices this month,

0:11:44 > 0:11:47showing a slight moderation of activity at the start of the year, I

0:11:47 > 0:11:50think it makes sense for banks to say, yes we would like hike rates

0:11:50 > 0:11:55and we will over time, but I think we have to be cautious and prudent.

0:11:55 > 0:11:58What about the European Central Bank, to what extent do you think

0:11:58 > 0:12:02the outcome of the German coalition talks will affect, have an impact on

0:12:02 > 0:12:06those discussions on the direction of future policy?I think they will

0:12:06 > 0:12:10have a material impact on future policy. What we have seen this the

0:12:10 > 0:12:17opposition, formal opposition, now taking control of the Finance

0:12:17 > 0:12:19Ministry. I think that will loosen the purse strings in Germany. I

0:12:19 > 0:12:23think that will be important in terms of growth dynamics in Germany

0:12:23 > 0:12:28and Eurozone as a homework. I think you add to the debate within the ECB

0:12:28 > 0:12:31and I think from the Germanic perspective, the policy in Europe is

0:12:31 > 0:12:35far too loose and I think that will add to the debate and the timing or

0:12:35 > 0:12:39pressure on the European Central Bank to consider their own policy

0:12:39 > 0:12:49reversal. I suspect has become to the back end of this year, those

0:12:49 > 0:12:51negative deposit rates which have been prevalent in Europe will start

0:12:51 > 0:12:55to be taken off the table.Thank you very much. You will be back later to

0:12:55 > 0:12:57talk a little about cybercrime and a controversial gambling conference

0:12:57 > 0:12:58Still to come...

0:12:58 > 0:13:07We book our own trips and scan our own groceries,

0:13:07 > 0:13:09but what about something like doing our own blood test?

0:13:09 > 0:13:11Is health care heading towards a do-it-yourself model?

0:13:11 > 0:13:13We'll be finding out in a few minutes.

0:13:13 > 0:13:19You're with Business Live from BBC News.

0:13:19 > 0:13:22TalkTalk is in talks to roll out full fibre broadband

0:13:22 > 0:13:28to 3 million UK homes.

0:13:28 > 0:13:30The broadband firm has also announced plans to raise £200m

0:13:30 > 0:13:31through a rights issue.

0:13:31 > 0:13:37Joining us now is our Economics Correspondent, Andrew Walker.

0:13:37 > 0:13:42TalkTalk is looking to raise this money and shift the focus towards

0:13:42 > 0:13:45broadband, away from mobile. What are the key steps they have

0:13:45 > 0:13:50announced?Quite striking move. In a sense, you could describe this as

0:13:50 > 0:13:54going back to their roots. The company originally started off

0:13:54 > 0:13:59within carphone offering services over fixed line and then

0:13:59 > 0:14:04subsequently got into mobile. Now it is going back towards those fixed

0:14:04 > 0:14:07line services, creating a new company, along with infrastructure.

0:14:07 > 0:14:14It will be aiming to provide full fibre services to 3 million users

0:14:14 > 0:14:19across the country. They have already started an experiment on

0:14:19 > 0:14:24this in York, where they have 14,000 already connected, aiming to get up

0:14:24 > 0:14:29to 50,000 as a result of work that is currently in hand. They are

0:14:29 > 0:14:36proposing to go to investors, to raise another £200 million. Of that,

0:14:36 > 0:14:39£40 million they are proposing will come from the executive chairman or

0:14:39 > 0:14:45executive director. Trying to send a message to other would be investors

0:14:45 > 0:14:49that the board is really committed to this project. And they are also

0:14:49 > 0:14:56going to be, they are also going to be continuing with this process of

0:14:56 > 0:15:04switching mobile customers over to O2, when their contracts expire they

0:15:04 > 0:15:09are being offered a new contract with O2, rather than reviewing the

0:15:09 > 0:15:12TalkTalk operation. One of the striking things about the trading

0:15:12 > 0:15:16update I have here, there are four pages, or mobile there is just a

0:15:16 > 0:15:22single sentence.Fascinating, thank you. You will be across that for us.

0:15:22 > 0:15:25Andrew Walker in our business room, where it looks like people haven't

0:15:25 > 0:15:33got into work yet, looks a bit empty!

0:15:33 > 0:15:33There are empty!

0:15:33 > 0:15:33There are some empty!

0:15:33 > 0:15:33There are some people empty!

0:15:33 > 0:15:35There are some people working. empty!

0:15:35 > 0:15:35There are some people working. They empty!

0:15:35 > 0:15:38There are some people working. They are

0:15:38 > 0:15:44filling in the website pages. Is it another day of stock market

0:15:44 > 0:15:57volatility? TalkTalk shares faring badly.

0:15:58 > 0:15:59You're watching Business Live.

0:15:59 > 0:16:01Our top story...

0:16:01 > 0:16:02UK Members of Parliament will question social

0:16:02 > 0:16:12media bosses in Washington later over the issue of fake news

0:16:18 > 0:16:22after calling the firms' response so far "completely inadequate."

0:16:22 > 0:16:24Many of us are trying to be more healthy these days.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26But how do you fancy tracking your health

0:16:26 > 0:16:28by testing your own blood at home?

0:16:28 > 0:16:31Well, one company - Thriva - provides kits that can be used

0:16:31 > 0:16:33at home to test for a variety of different things.

0:16:33 > 0:16:35They can track a wide range of health indicators including

0:16:35 > 0:16:37cholesterol and liver function.

0:16:37 > 0:16:39You send the sample to the company - which then gives you

0:16:39 > 0:16:48expert analysis online.

0:16:48 > 0:16:51So, is this a good way to spot early signs of illness

0:16:51 > 0:16:52and take pressure off over-stretched health services?

0:16:52 > 0:16:58Hamish Grierson, co-founder of Thriva joins me now.

0:16:58 > 0:17:04I just want find out how you set up the company, giving you do not have

0:17:04 > 0:17:11a medical background.No, that is right. Thriva was created with one

0:17:11 > 0:17:15simple purpose in mind. We wanted to give anybody access to the benefit

0:17:15 > 0:17:20that comes of getting a regular check up on your health as you point

0:17:20 > 0:17:24out it is about staying in front of the health issues that impact

0:17:24 > 0:17:28millions of people around the country. Practically speaking, the

0:17:28 > 0:17:32reason we have started with a blood test you can do from home, it is

0:17:32 > 0:17:40basically painless, a little pinprick. One of my two business

0:17:40 > 0:17:43partners has a genetic, high cholesterol disposition which means

0:17:43 > 0:17:48he tests his blood every three or four months. I am fascinated by

0:17:48 > 0:17:55nutrition and how you can hack your way to a healthier body. The

0:17:55 > 0:17:58combination of those two things ultimately led us to think about

0:17:58 > 0:18:02what happens when you put the consumer at the heart of what is a

0:18:02 > 0:18:06health care process and trying to power them to understand their own

0:18:06 > 0:18:11information and be able to take a good decision, or make a decision,

0:18:11 > 0:18:20on the basis of that data.Your business partner, Elliott, you said

0:18:20 > 0:18:24he is taking his own blood every three months. I have never done

0:18:24 > 0:18:27that. How could I be assured that what I was doing was accurate and

0:18:27 > 0:18:33could get me the same results as a doctor if they did the same test?It

0:18:33 > 0:18:36is a really good question for the credibility that the core of what we

0:18:36 > 0:18:43are about. The reality is laboratories we used to analyse your

0:18:43 > 0:18:48blood would be exactly the same as the NHS laboratories. Really

0:18:48 > 0:18:54importantly, we talked before we came on air about what happens when

0:18:54 > 0:19:01you see something and the results that might be potentially

0:19:01 > 0:19:06problematic, or stimulate a concern. The reality for us is, information

0:19:06 > 0:19:11without context, for us, is really irresponsible. Every report is

0:19:11 > 0:19:16looked at by an NHS trained GP we work with. The report itself

0:19:16 > 0:19:20delivered online, really clear to understand what those things in the

0:19:20 > 0:19:26report mean. It is written in plain English would you can see a crafts.

0:19:26 > 0:19:32You inside outside a particular reference range? -- a craft will

0:19:32 > 0:19:37stop as I say, it is about making sure you can trust the information

0:19:37 > 0:19:41have the credibility you would otherwise expect from a blood test

0:19:41 > 0:19:44you would take elsewhere and you know what to do with the information

0:19:44 > 0:19:49when you have it.There was another quite well-known blood testing

0:19:49 > 0:19:52company in the United States which collapsed. Have you found it

0:19:52 > 0:19:56difficult to get funding for your business because of that? People

0:19:56 > 0:20:02trust you in what you are doing.I would be lying if I said every

0:20:02 > 0:20:06single investor was happy about it that none of our customers ever

0:20:06 > 0:20:10have. There is a simple reality which is that we do things

0:20:10 > 0:20:15differently. We share some mission. We're also about trying to empower

0:20:15 > 0:20:21people to proactively manage their health. Because we are executing in

0:20:21 > 0:20:26a fundamentally different way, it is fairly short.Do you have trial

0:20:26 > 0:20:30setup with the National Health Service in the UK?We are proud that

0:20:30 > 0:20:37we have watched our first pilot working with the Royal Brompton

0:20:37 > 0:20:41Hospital, in association with cystic fibrosis department. Over time what

0:20:41 > 0:20:45we came to appreciate is, just because you are a patient having

0:20:45 > 0:20:49gone into what we think as the sick or serious care system the National

0:20:49 > 0:20:53Health Service is about, it does not mean you ought not to be empowered

0:20:53 > 0:20:57to manage your health proactively as well stop that particular pilot is

0:20:57 > 0:21:02about helping people who otherwise would be coming back and forth from

0:21:02 > 0:21:09the hospital.Apparently you do not see the needles.You never see any

0:21:09 > 0:21:20dog. It is a tiny pinprick and is painless.-- any needle.

0:21:20 > 0:21:22Let's go to Singapore now - which is holding

0:21:22 > 0:21:23its annual air show.

0:21:23 > 0:21:25Asia's aviation boom has strained capacity at some

0:21:25 > 0:21:26airports around the region.

0:21:26 > 0:21:29It's also created a shortage of pilots who can fly the planes.

0:21:29 > 0:21:36Our business reporter Mariko Oi reports.

0:21:36 > 0:21:42Training to be a pilot. It takes up to two years to learn how to deal

0:21:42 > 0:21:47with emergencies inside and around an aircraft. For 28-year-old Dean it

0:21:47 > 0:21:53was his childhood dream.When I was young I took a flight in New Zealand

0:21:53 > 0:21:59and flew around the mountains. I was away from everything.It was

0:21:59 > 0:22:05fantastic. But it is competitive to get in. Here in Singapore, 600 apply

0:22:05 > 0:22:12for 60 spots annually. It is not cheap. Up to 140,000 US dollars to

0:22:12 > 0:22:19complete the course. Many cadets, including 24-year-old -- this

0:22:19 > 0:22:2424-year-old man pay for the training themselves.I think it is worth it

0:22:24 > 0:22:29for the investment. In the long one, this is my passion.And shame will

0:22:29 > 0:22:35likely get his money's worth because there is an acute shortage of

0:22:35 > 0:22:43pilots. Boeing is forecasting that global airlines will need to hire

0:22:43 > 0:22:47637,000 new pilots over the next 20 years. Some 40% of that demand comes

0:22:47 > 0:22:53from Asia.

0:22:53 > 0:22:57Jeremy is back to look through the papers.

0:22:57 > 0:23:01Before we do that, we are going to go through some of the tweets.

0:23:01 > 0:23:10We have been asking about fake news. They can use as a big problem in the

0:23:10 > 0:23:15digital world. It creates a wrong perception. Tech giants must take

0:23:15 > 0:23:19action against this. Another said, it would be nice if they could help

0:23:19 > 0:23:23to weed out fake news but should be held responsible for the spread of

0:23:23 > 0:23:33it as long as they didn't literally promote it. A really tricky subject.

0:23:33 > 0:23:38From my perspective, clearly it adds to the uncertainty. You do see these

0:23:38 > 0:23:43news stories coming across news wires and all the various sources.

0:23:43 > 0:23:48That does impact financial markets will stop you do get distortions

0:23:48 > 0:23:53which can create and feed their own panic. That is something we are very

0:23:53 > 0:23:58mindful of.Another story we are talking about is the cyber crime

0:23:58 > 0:24:02mass arrest in the United States. Another development in the ongoing

0:24:02 > 0:24:09battle.It is the ongoing arms race, the battle between good and evil.

0:24:09 > 0:24:16You have the dark web and people being arrested across continents.

0:24:16 > 0:24:21All the bases covered in terms of the spectrum of the modern cyber

0:24:21 > 0:24:26crime story. It underlines that regulatory authorities are

0:24:26 > 0:24:30continuing to try and crack down but it is a very difficult process.A

0:24:30 > 0:24:34difficult process. You say we are trying to crack down but it is

0:24:34 > 0:24:40striking we are trying to create an online black market, grow it to a

0:24:40 > 0:24:43half billion dollar operation and get away with it.It is astonishing

0:24:43 > 0:24:47when you look at the details involved. It is a race operation

0:24:47 > 0:24:52which is being run outside the confines of the mainstream internet

0:24:52 > 0:24:57process in an effort to try to facilitate stealing people's details

0:24:57 > 0:25:01to do for them. It is astonishing this can go one almost in plain

0:25:01 > 0:25:06sight. That is the problem and difficulty that the authorities

0:25:06 > 0:25:11have.We have heard a lot about attempts within various industries

0:25:11 > 0:25:15to stamp out sexual misconduct yet the gambling industry has been

0:25:15 > 0:25:18criticised for allowing an exhibition to take place with pole

0:25:18 > 0:25:24dancers in London this week. That has been criticised. It is part of a

0:25:24 > 0:25:28trend, isn't it, to shift away from the use of women as promotional

0:25:28 > 0:25:34tools?The fact this story has made media underlines changing dynamics.

0:25:34 > 0:25:40It has been a slow process but, if you think back 20, 30 years ago, you

0:25:40 > 0:25:45would have had women draped across cars at motor shows. That does not

0:25:45 > 0:25:50happen any more. The context but this has been flagged underlines

0:25:50 > 0:25:53that we are slowly getting to a scenario that is much more

0:25:53 > 0:25:59beneficial.Thank you for being on the programme today. Goodbye.

0:25:59 > 0:26:01That's it from Business Live today.

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