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0:00:00 > 0:00:09on Wednesday 7th March.

0:00:17 > 0:00:19Mr Cohn has been seen as a moderate voice

0:00:19 > 0:00:22in the White House, so his departure has dealt a big blow to business

0:00:22 > 0:00:24leaders hoping to prevent the US President igniting

0:00:24 > 0:00:28a global trade war.

0:00:28 > 0:00:29Also in the programme....

0:00:29 > 0:00:32Harleys, Levi's and Bourbon - why the European Union is targeting

0:00:32 > 0:00:33classic American goods as it prepares to retaliate

0:00:34 > 0:00:38against those US tariffs.

0:00:38 > 0:00:40And all that makes investors nervous.

0:00:40 > 0:00:46In Asia markets dropped sharply and this is how Europe has opened.

0:00:49 > 0:00:51And we'll be getting the inside track on the start-up

0:00:51 > 0:00:54siblings who made it big - You may not have heard

0:00:54 > 0:00:56of the Collison brothers but their payments technology has

0:00:56 > 0:00:59made them billions - they are now among the youngest

0:00:59 > 0:01:00self-made billionaires in the world.

0:01:00 > 0:01:03Also tomorrow is International Women's

0:01:03 > 0:01:06Day and to mark the occasion Mattel has launched a new set

0:01:06 > 0:01:09of Barbie dolls - this one behind me is Nicola Adams

0:01:09 > 0:01:11the Olympic boxing champion.

0:01:11 > 0:01:14Nicola says she is honoured.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17So we want to know who would you nominate for your Barbie role-model?

0:01:17 > 0:01:26Let us know.

0:01:35 > 0:01:43There should be a Sally Bundock Barbie! You heard it here first.

0:01:43 > 0:01:45We start at the White House, where top economic advisor Gary Cohn

0:01:45 > 0:01:48has quit after losing a heated battle President Trump over tariffs.

0:01:48 > 0:01:50He opposed President's proposed steel and aluminium tariffs

0:01:50 > 0:01:52because of the impact on the American economy,

0:01:52 > 0:01:54US jobs and the threat of a global trade war.

0:01:54 > 0:01:57In a moment, we'll hear from a global trade expert but first

0:01:57 > 0:02:04Kim Gittleson in New York has more details.

0:02:04 > 0:02:12Gary Cohn has long said he opposed the tariffs. He is known as somebody

0:02:12 > 0:02:18who supports free trade. He worked at Goldman Sachs and he is a

0:02:18 > 0:02:22Democrat. He has clashed with President Trump on a host of issues.

0:02:22 > 0:02:28The thing they seem to agree on was the tax reform. Beyond that, there

0:02:28 > 0:02:32wasn't that much common ground. When we saw President Trump come out

0:02:32 > 0:02:38today saying that he once more believed he wants these tariffs to

0:02:38 > 0:02:42be instituted, it seemed like a done deal that he would have to resign.

0:02:42 > 0:02:48That is part of our team in New York.

0:02:48 > 0:02:50Gary Cohn quitting Trump's team is the latest

0:02:50 > 0:02:52in the transatlantic tit-for-tat over trade.

0:02:52 > 0:02:54Today, the European Commission hammers out its plan

0:02:54 > 0:02:57to counter the US President's threat of import tariffs of 25% on steel

0:02:57 > 0:03:04and 10% on aluminium due this week.

0:03:04 > 0:03:06The Commission says response will comply with WTO rules.

0:03:06 > 0:03:09It's drawn up a target list of 100 US goods - worth $3.5

0:03:09 > 0:03:12billion.

0:03:12 > 0:03:18Many of them will have significant political impact.

0:03:18 > 0:03:20Among them the iconic US motorbike Harley-Davidson -

0:03:20 > 0:03:22made in Wisconsin - home state to House of

0:03:22 > 0:03:28Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30And Bourbon whiskey - made in Kentucky, the state

0:03:30 > 0:03:38of Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell.

0:03:38 > 0:03:41Orange juice is a key export for Florida - a vital swing

0:03:41 > 0:03:44state in US elections.

0:03:44 > 0:03:46And there's the ultimate example of classic Americana -

0:03:46 > 0:03:49Levi's jeans, a US firm that relied on Europe for a 20% jump

0:03:49 > 0:03:53in sales last year.

0:03:53 > 0:03:54The row is already hitting business.

0:03:54 > 0:04:01Electrolux, Europe's largest appliances maker,

0:04:01 > 0:04:04is freezing a $250 million investment in a Tennessee factory

0:04:04 > 0:04:14over fears Trump's tariffs could dent its competitiveness.

0:04:14 > 0:04:16Joining us from Brussels is Allie Renison

0:04:16 > 0:04:22of the Institute of Directors, a business lobby group.

0:04:23 > 0:04:30You were listening to all of that, as we speak, European Commission

0:04:30 > 0:04:34representatives are discussing their next move, what do you expect to

0:04:34 > 0:04:41come out of Brussels?Well, I think that this is something someone like

0:04:41 > 0:04:46Gary Cohn was worried about, the concerns were the impact to the US

0:04:46 > 0:04:51economy and the scale of retaliation. This is part of the

0:04:51 > 0:04:57problem. The EU is looking not just at retaliating in respect of

0:04:57 > 0:05:02products the US and Trump are putting duty on, they're looking

0:05:02 > 0:05:08wider in scope. It is depressing to hear somebody like president junker

0:05:08 > 0:05:14say if the US want to do stupid, we can do stupid too. That is the

0:05:14 > 0:05:20question - how far will it range? The pressure and the stakes getting

0:05:20 > 0:05:24higher by the hour, when we get to a position where we are talking about

0:05:24 > 0:05:28tariffs and barriers to trade, there is no telling where that will stop?

0:05:28 > 0:05:35Yes that is part of it, if you're looking at how rationale a

0:05:35 > 0:05:38proportionate response might look like, you might hope markets like

0:05:38 > 0:05:43the EU would be looking at taking the case and taking the US's

0:05:43 > 0:05:49justification of this under a broad national security exception to the

0:05:49 > 0:05:52WTO, instead a lot of country and the EU will be thinking after they

0:05:52 > 0:05:57act, rather than the other way around.How damaging would be a

0:05:57 > 0:06:02trade war of this scale be for those part of your organisation and other

0:06:02 > 0:06:07businesses?Well, I think one of the things that people often forget,

0:06:07 > 0:06:13certainly the president, there are a lot of industries who rely on

0:06:13 > 0:06:19inputs, processing and consuming industries and for every one job you

0:06:19 > 0:06:25might save with tariffs, you lose she Sen or eight -- even or eight in

0:06:25 > 0:06:29the supply chain. But that often doesn't get thought about. That is

0:06:29 > 0:06:38the biggest concern, the revere bracing through the supply chain.

0:06:38 > 0:06:44Thank you.

0:06:44 > 0:06:46Let's take a look at some of the other

0:06:47 > 0:06:48stories making the news.

0:06:48 > 0:06:50Australia's economy clocked up GDP growth of 0.4%

0:06:50 > 0:06:53in the last three months of last year - lower than expected and

0:06:53 > 0:06:54marking a weak finish to the year.

0:06:54 > 0:06:59A fall in exports in the last quarter dragged on growth.

0:06:59 > 0:07:02Over the year as a whole, the economy grew by 2.4%

0:07:02 > 0:07:06compared to a year earlier, that's down from 2.9%.

0:07:06 > 0:07:09The Royal Bank of Scotland has agreed a $500 million settlement

0:07:09 > 0:07:11with New York State over the mis-selling of financial

0:07:11 > 0:07:14products in the run up to the global financial crisis in 2008.

0:07:14 > 0:07:18RBS is the sixth bank to settle with the state over similar claims,

0:07:18 > 0:07:19linked to risky mortgages.

0:07:19 > 0:07:25The agreement will see the bank pay $400 million

0:07:25 > 0:07:30in relief to homeowners, as well as $100 million to the state.

0:07:30 > 0:07:32Blackberry has filed a lawsuit in the US accusing

0:07:32 > 0:07:34Facebook of copying features from Blackberry Messenger

0:07:34 > 0:07:38in a violation of its patent rights.

0:07:38 > 0:07:40Blackberry, which was once a leader in the smartphone market,

0:07:40 > 0:07:42says Facebook used the features and technology in its WhatsApp

0:07:42 > 0:07:47and Instagram apps.

0:07:47 > 0:07:50The claims come after Blackberry has increased efforts to make money

0:07:50 > 0:07:51from its more than 40,000 patents.

0:07:51 > 0:07:58Facebook has said it would fight the claims.

0:07:58 > 0:08:07Lots of stories on the business live pages. All the news as it breaking,

0:08:07 > 0:08:12Paddy Power have reported a 20% rise in operating profits. A strong

0:08:12 > 0:08:19growth in sports betting helped to boost its figures.

0:08:19 > 0:08:22A new blow for Japanese steel giant Kobe -

0:08:22 > 0:08:24US consumers have filed a lawsuit accusing the company of fraud.

0:08:24 > 0:08:26It's the first US consumer complaint since the Kobe

0:08:26 > 0:08:29quality-control scandal broke - and it also takes aim at Toyota.

0:08:29 > 0:08:38Leisha Santorelli is in Singapore.

0:08:38 > 0:08:44We talked about this yesterday, and the boss and all the ongoing chaos

0:08:44 > 0:08:52around the world, this just the latest installment?Yes the fallout

0:08:52 > 0:08:59continues this is possibly the first class action that Kobe steel have to

0:08:59 > 0:09:07face. So in this US court filing, Kobe is accused of breaking US

0:09:07 > 0:09:12consumer laws by covering up the fact they used sub standard metal

0:09:12 > 0:09:21used in cars. This includes very popular models. So Kobe has taken a

0:09:21 > 0:09:26massive reputational hit in America and they will have to try and limit

0:09:26 > 0:09:29the damage. As we reported yesterday, their president is

0:09:29 > 0:09:36stepping down, as is the boss of its aluminium and copper unit. But that

0:09:36 > 0:09:41won't stop the legal risks and won't limit the hits to their share price,

0:09:41 > 0:09:47they fell by another 7% in Tokyo today to close at its lowest level

0:09:47 > 0:09:51this year. The fallout will have to be contained in the months to come.

0:09:51 > 0:09:58Before you go, we are asking people about inspirational business women

0:09:58 > 0:10:06that could be immortised by Barbie, anyone in your part of world?I

0:10:06 > 0:10:12replied to Sally on Twitter, I think a great idea is to allow people to

0:10:12 > 0:10:19customise their dolls, so if I had a daughter they should make one in her

0:10:19 > 0:10:25likeness. Or as my mum.It is mother's day on Sunday. So good

0:10:25 > 0:10:39timing. Thank you. Here is what is happening on the markets. Some

0:10:39 > 0:10:45volatility after the news that Mr Cohn is leaving the White House. He

0:10:45 > 0:10:50is leaving, investors are nervous. So that is what happened in the US

0:10:50 > 0:10:55and Asia. Now Europe and it doesn't look like I can show you the numbers

0:10:55 > 0:11:02now, but we are expecting it to look weaker as a result of that nervous

0:11:02 > 0:11:06frns investors -- nervousness from investors. Sally has the European

0:11:06 > 0:11:15numbers.Yes you can see it is flat. Brent crude down a per cent and our

0:11:15 > 0:11:19regular guest is with us.

0:11:19 > 0:11:21Justin Urquhart Stewart is with us, of Seven

0:11:21 > 0:11:23Investment Management.

0:11:23 > 0:11:26You were listening to the conversation about trade. Give us

0:11:26 > 0:11:31your take on this and how it is being interpreted in the markets.

0:11:31 > 0:11:36The backdrop is the global economy doing well, but you have got to put

0:11:36 > 0:11:41the issue of trade wars and that is a very serious issue for the

0:11:41 > 0:11:51markets. Add to that Mr Cohn going. Without him, who is controlling the

0:11:51 > 0:11:56mad house? The result is markets are sailing into the wind, the sails are

0:11:56 > 0:12:00flapping, they haven't got a direction. Behind that you will see

0:12:00 > 0:12:05interest rates rising in the interest and that will put further

0:12:05 > 0:12:09pressure on the markets.Among this uncertainty, people are looking

0:12:09 > 0:12:15elsewhere for places to put their money. We have talked about bit coin

0:12:15 > 0:12:19and seeing a relationship. You have been looking at an interesting way

0:12:19 > 0:12:24that people might be investing.Some people will know. One lovely thing I

0:12:24 > 0:12:41found, handbags...You can invest in handbags.Not any old handbag. 2010.

0:12:41 > 0:12:49A hand made Himalaya bag and that has been auctioned for 157,000

0:12:49 > 0:12:55euros.That is a good return.It is portable and in terms of the

0:12:55 > 0:12:59elements to invest in, it is something physical you can see. It

0:12:59 > 0:13:07is better than the bitcoin.How can you use it if it costs 29,000 euros.

0:13:07 > 0:13:13Depends who you are. Maybe we could have a Barbie doll with the handbag.

0:13:13 > 0:13:20An incredible asset. Thank you. He will be back. More to discuss,

0:13:20 > 0:13:25including his Barbie doll recommendation.

0:13:25 > 0:13:28Still to come: The startup siblings that made their billions from smart

0:13:28 > 0:13:30online payments sytems Stripe - we talk to one

0:13:30 > 0:13:32of the Collinson brothers about how they made it big.

0:13:32 > 0:13:38You're with Business Live from BBC News.

0:13:49 > 0:13:53More debate of the Brexit in the UK.

0:13:53 > 0:13:56Philip Hammond will tell European leaders it's in the "mutual

0:13:56 > 0:13:58interest" of the UK and the EU to include financial services

0:13:58 > 0:14:00in a free trade agreement.

0:14:00 > 0:14:03The UK Chancellor is due to make the argument

0:14:03 > 0:14:04in a speech later today.

0:14:04 > 0:14:09Our economics editor Kamal Ahmed has details.

0:14:10 > 0:14:14Tell us what he is going to say. This is the latest stage in that

0:14:14 > 0:14:18Brexit battle. It is over an important part of the trade

0:14:18 > 0:14:23negotiations that are coming up - financial services. For Britain,

0:14:23 > 0:14:29they're incredibly important. Not just for the two million jobs that

0:14:29 > 0:14:33are connected to financial services across the UK, but because Britain

0:14:33 > 0:14:38has a trade surplus with the EU on financial services of about £20

0:14:38 > 0:14:45billion a year. So very valuable to Britain. Philip Hammond is saying it

0:14:45 > 0:14:52is also valuable to the EU - London is a huge global market, where lots

0:14:52 > 0:14:56of European governments and businesses raise a lot of money. And

0:14:56 > 0:15:02he is going to say that it is important for both sides that there

0:15:02 > 0:15:08is a deep and special agreement between Britain and the EU once we

0:15:08 > 0:15:13have left the single market. Which at the moment give us privileged

0:15:13 > 0:15:20access to the EU. It seems that his position has already been rejected

0:15:20 > 0:15:29by the European Commission. Today, Donald Tusk is going to say any free

0:15:29 > 0:15:33trade deal cannot involve financial services. But we need to remember

0:15:33 > 0:15:37these are negotiations and you put out your stall and make your

0:15:37 > 0:15:41argument and both sides probably admit in the end there will be some

0:15:41 > 0:15:47form of agreement.

0:15:47 > 0:15:51This is one of those perfect examples where critics will say you

0:15:51 > 0:15:54cannot have your cake and eat it. Yes but for the EU it is important

0:15:54 > 0:16:02they keep links to London. Frankly neither Frankfurt, Paris, nor any

0:16:02 > 0:16:06centre in EE you can maintain the financing operations they have, so

0:16:06 > 0:16:11they will meet London in this instance. -- nor any centre in the

0:16:11 > 0:16:21European Union.DHL has reported its results. Last year profits up 7.2%.

0:16:29 > 0:16:31You're watching Business Live - our top story -

0:16:31 > 0:16:34the top economic advisor to the White House, Gary Cohn

0:16:34 > 0:16:36has quit after a battle President Trump over tariffs.

0:16:36 > 0:16:38He opposed President's proposed steel and aluminium tariffs

0:16:38 > 0:16:40because of the impact on the American economy,

0:16:40 > 0:16:49US jobs and the threat of a global trade war.

0:16:49 > 0:16:50That has left investors pretty nervous.

0:16:50 > 0:16:54That has left investors pretty nervous. We can show you what

0:16:54 > 0:16:56trading is doing in the European markets...

0:17:04 > 0:17:06Some suggesting this can only

0:17:06 > 0:17:09Some suggesting this can only do one thing, which is harm global trade.

0:17:09 > 0:17:11We often introduce you to interesting businesses and

0:17:11 > 0:17:14entrepreneurs.

0:17:14 > 0:17:15And today's guest is no exception.

0:17:15 > 0:17:18His name is John Collison and with the help of his brother

0:17:18 > 0:17:21Patrick he founded "Stripe".

0:17:21 > 0:17:23Stripe enables businesses around the world to more easily

0:17:23 > 0:17:25accept online payments and run their websites.

0:17:25 > 0:17:28Set up in San Francisco six years ago, it now has over

0:17:28 > 0:17:29100,000 customers worldwide including the likes of Amazon,

0:17:29 > 0:17:31Fitbit and Facebook.

0:17:31 > 0:17:35In 2016 it announced a new round of funding that valued

0:17:35 > 0:17:38the company at $9.2 billion.

0:17:38 > 0:17:45According to Forbes that means the brothers are now worth

0:17:45 > 0:17:48upwards of $1.1 billion each.

0:17:48 > 0:17:52And at 27 John is the world's youngest self-made billionaire.

0:17:52 > 0:17:58Where did we go wrong? We are just a little bit jealous.

0:17:58 > 0:18:02Yes, we sent somebody else because we were so jealous.

0:18:02 > 0:18:03Our Business Editor Simon Jack

0:18:03 > 0:18:04went along to meet him

0:18:04 > 0:18:07and began by asking for the secret of his success?

0:18:07 > 0:18:10It was valuable that myself and Patrick at the technical background

0:18:10 > 0:18:14to be able to build the first version of Stripe. Because you can

0:18:14 > 0:18:20build a product, see if it works for customers, make changes, wash and

0:18:20 > 0:18:27repeat on a two-day cycle. One is the career track of being a software

0:18:27 > 0:18:30developer. It will continue to be a good one for decades to come. I

0:18:30 > 0:18:37think that is a good bet to make. The second thing is, I think in the

0:18:37 > 0:18:42case of Stripe, it was helpful that it was a gradual process. We came to

0:18:42 > 0:18:46the idea because we had started an Internet business before. We were

0:18:46 > 0:18:50gobsmacked at how easy it was to accept money. We started using a

0:18:50 > 0:18:57prototype. We got a user using us. Then another, and then after a while

0:18:57 > 0:19:02things started to snowball. But that is the other thing I would encourage

0:19:02 > 0:19:06people, especially if they are in that starting position, if you pay

0:19:06 > 0:19:09close attention to what the customers are saying about the

0:19:09 > 0:19:13actual problems you can learn a lot just through the listening process.

0:19:13 > 0:19:17You have 25 people in London, 700 in California, now you are betting big

0:19:17 > 0:19:25in Dublin. People think that London is the thin tech hub in London, you

0:19:25 > 0:19:28are betting on Dublin, wife?Dublin has been our European headquarters

0:19:28 > 0:19:42from day one. If a few reasons for that. It is in the EU. Also, Dublin

0:19:42 > 0:19:45is increasing its phenomenal talent market. Where you have this melting

0:19:45 > 0:19:49pot effect. It reminds me of what you get in the valley and what you

0:19:49 > 0:19:54get in London, people coming from all over Europe to work in Dublin.

0:19:54 > 0:19:59We are using Dublin as a hub for which to serve Europe, the Middle

0:19:59 > 0:20:08East, and Africa.What is the threat to the -- what is the threat Brexit

0:20:08 > 0:20:13has on London as the tech hub?A big one. It is twofold. Firstly, in

0:20:13 > 0:20:19actuality, it'll get harder to have a talent hub here where people from

0:20:19 > 0:20:25across Europe, especially, are coming to work. We are seeing this

0:20:25 > 0:20:29in the US right now where it has already proven the case that people

0:20:29 > 0:20:33are less willing to move to the US. They don't even want to enter the

0:20:33 > 0:20:38Visa process because of what they perceive to be the political climate

0:20:38 > 0:20:45and how the country is towards foreigners. I think that is the

0:20:45 > 0:20:49perception and that'll get difficult for people to go over there.Are you

0:20:49 > 0:20:52seeing it already here?We are seeing it already in the US and we

0:20:52 > 0:20:57are worried about seeing it in the UK.If recruitment gets harder, if

0:20:57 > 0:21:01people are less willing to move to the UK, for example, what the

0:21:01 > 0:21:08penalty, what happens?The ultimate risks we are talking about is does

0:21:08 > 0:21:12the UK have a vibrant tech centre and start-up system. That is putting

0:21:12 > 0:21:18it into stark terms. I think it will, but how successful it will be,

0:21:18 > 0:21:25I think there are degrees of success we can talk about there. We might be

0:21:25 > 0:21:29looking at a lower level than before...If you had a message to

0:21:29 > 0:21:33the Government, as they are thinking about this, from your sector, what

0:21:33 > 0:21:39would it be?It is a bit of a factor of what is done is done, on the

0:21:39 > 0:21:44Brexit side, but I think what we can affect is people's perceptions of

0:21:44 > 0:21:50the UK and the UK as an attractive investment climate. And the

0:21:50 > 0:21:55attractiveness of moving to the UK. Like I said, in the US, I think that

0:21:55 > 0:22:00is something we are risking, we are sending the message that people

0:22:00 > 0:22:06should not come to the US, but we should be sending the opposite

0:22:06 > 0:22:10message. We need to make it clear to people that the UK is still a great

0:22:10 > 0:22:17place to emigrate to.Justin has returned, as promised. We have lots

0:22:17 > 0:22:23to discuss, including your nominations for the Barbie doll

0:22:23 > 0:22:30idea. First, this story in the papers. Debenhams to rent flagship

0:22:30 > 0:22:36store space to people who hot desk. This is a sign of The Times, isn't

0:22:36 > 0:22:42it, with these big department stores are really struggling.It isn't good

0:22:42 > 0:22:47news, it is just showing a problem. Debenhams has all of this space. But

0:22:47 > 0:22:52Debenhams is a shop where people go and rent spaces. This is just an

0:22:52 > 0:22:56extension of that. A lot of these businesses, and yet the same with

0:22:56 > 0:22:59House of Fraser, they are all suffering. All of the news we have

0:22:59 > 0:23:03had is that the bottom has fallen out of the retail basket. Many of

0:23:03 > 0:23:07these shops are having real problems.The bricks and mortar

0:23:07 > 0:23:10basket, is that what we are thinking?Exactly. The online ones

0:23:10 > 0:23:15are still there. One prime example is John Lewis that works

0:23:15 > 0:23:20effectively. But where that hasn't happened you are in difficulty.A

0:23:20 > 0:23:23lot of big supermarkets have done this, as well. They have been

0:23:23 > 0:23:28leasing space to dry cleaners, cafes, key cutters, this is just an

0:23:28 > 0:23:32extension.And a logical extension. This reflects what has happened to

0:23:32 > 0:23:36British business. We are sitting at record numbers of new businesses,

0:23:36 > 0:23:42600,000 per year. Go back 30 years, that number would be around 180,000.

0:23:42 > 0:23:46Still a high rate. But we are being much more entrepreneurial than

0:23:46 > 0:23:50France and Germany. What we must do is nurture these. Providing sites

0:23:50 > 0:23:57like this is a good way of doing it. But beyond that you need to be able

0:23:57 > 0:23:59to finance. And access to long-term finance, not just short-term

0:23:59 > 0:24:07solutions. Why is Washington so obsessed with

0:24:07 > 0:24:14China's Huawei. It is proving to be pretty dominant in the market.

0:24:14 > 0:24:21Almost challenging Apple and Samsung.Just how close is Huawei to

0:24:21 > 0:24:26the Government? These companies are intrinsically linked. If you are

0:24:26 > 0:24:33allowing Huawei into high-tech areas, which can affect national

0:24:33 > 0:24:38communications with some influence, that level of high-tech, I am

0:24:38 > 0:24:41talking about five G, then you need to control it, see who is involved.

0:24:41 > 0:24:44We are more accepting of it over here. Vodafone already has a deal

0:24:44 > 0:24:54with Huawei. More to come on that. Nominations for new goals. The maker

0:24:54 > 0:24:57of Barbie says it will be recognising International Women's

0:24:57 > 0:25:01Day tomorrow and will come out with some new models. There is Nicola

0:25:01 > 0:25:10Adams with a goal with her likeness. Were talking about this, who would

0:25:10 > 0:25:15you nominate?Cleopatra.A historical figure.

0:25:15 > 0:25:26And she ran the economy.Absolutely. Boudicca... And I thought of Mary

0:25:26 > 0:25:29Queen of Scots, you can have an accessory where you might be able to

0:25:29 > 0:25:32remove the head. CHUCKLES

0:25:32 > 0:25:37Or Mrs Pankhurst holding a placard about the suffragettes. You need to

0:25:37 > 0:25:39access rights these things. CHUCKLES

0:25:39 > 0:25:44Thank you. Just quickly, Amelia Earhart has already