:00:09. > :00:14.Royal Marines. The Government is accused of
:00:14. > :00:19.fuelling a crisis as the demand for petrol soars. People form long
:00:19. > :00:22.queues to buy fuel after ministers advise motorists to top up their
:00:22. > :00:27.tanks. It is ridiculous at this point. The
:00:27. > :00:32.strike has not been officially declared. There are no dates. Why
:00:32. > :00:37.everyone panic now? David Cameron should have kept his trap shut!
:00:37. > :00:43.Some petrol owners have run out of fuel. Labour blames the Government.
:00:43. > :00:46.They have presided over chaos. The people of Britain to queue over
:00:46. > :00:50.petrol stations, there was no strike date set! The Government has
:00:50. > :00:52.a responsibility to everyone to take sensible contingency plans.
:00:52. > :00:57.The trade union has a responsibility to call off the
:00:57. > :01:02.threat of strike action. We are asking if the Government's
:01:02. > :01:07.attempt to avoid queues at the pump as caused exactly that.
:01:07. > :01:12.Also: Doubt about plan plans to develop a
:01:12. > :01:18.new generation of power stations after two companies pull out.
:01:18. > :01:23.Concerns of contamination of fluid used to transfer donor organs.
:01:23. > :01:27.Violence flares in Spain ahead of an austerity budget that cuts tens
:01:27. > :01:31.of billions of spending. And Robert Redford speaks out about
:01:31. > :01:36.what is wrong with US politics. It is all about winning. It is all
:01:36. > :01:42.about the ego attached to winning, what people will do and say, just
:01:42. > :01:48.to win. Coming up in Sportsday:
:01:48. > :01:58.Stuart Lancaster sets his sights on the 2015 rugby World Cup after
:01:58. > :02:05.
:02:05. > :02:09.being confirmed as the England head Good evening.
:02:09. > :02:13.The Government is accused of causing panic at the pumps as
:02:13. > :02:21.queues have continued to form at petrol stations after ministers
:02:21. > :02:28.advise motorists to stock up on fuel. Sales at the pump soared by
:02:28. > :02:31.80%. Some petrol stations ran out all together.
:02:31. > :02:34.Labour is blaming the Government, the Government are blaming the
:02:34. > :02:39.unions. It is everything that the
:02:39. > :02:43.Government was desperate to avoid. Scenes of panic buying and queues
:02:43. > :02:47.in petrol stations up and down the country. All of this without even a
:02:47. > :02:51.date for a tanker's strike. No certainty that there will even be
:02:51. > :02:56.one. In the morning the ministers were urging drivers to fill up when
:02:56. > :03:00.they can so they are ready for a possible strike, but in the
:03:00. > :03:04.afternoon the Dorset Police were asking the petrol stations to shut
:03:04. > :03:09.as the queues were disrupting traffic.
:03:09. > :03:15.There are no dates, why is everyone panicking now? David Cameron should
:03:15. > :03:20.have kept his trap shut. newspaper headquarters, no news is
:03:20. > :03:22.good news, isn't it? For those who need petrol to get to work, a
:03:22. > :03:26.strike would mean that is impossible.
:03:26. > :03:31.This is forcing panic buying. Petrol retailers said there had
:03:31. > :03:37.been a surge in sales with demand for unleaded up 81% on last week.
:03:37. > :03:41.There were reports of prices rising and jerry cans flying off the
:03:41. > :03:45.shelves. This is really a self-inflicted
:03:45. > :03:51.crisis if drivers followed the normal buying patterns, there would
:03:51. > :03:56.be no shortage. The advice has been bad advice about topping up. It he
:03:56. > :04:00.is led to panic buying. Unite is in contact with the
:04:00. > :04:04.Conciliation Service, ACAS, but the leader of the party that Unite
:04:04. > :04:08.bankrolls, says it is the Government to get a grip.
:04:08. > :04:12.This they have presided over shambles and chaos. The people of
:04:12. > :04:15.Britain are queuing at petrol stations, there was no strike date
:04:15. > :04:21.set, as the Prime Minister conceded yesterday.
:04:21. > :04:24.But the Chancellor said it was the union's threat of a strike causing
:04:24. > :04:28.concern about the supplies. The Government has a responsibility
:04:28. > :04:31.to all in the country to take sensible contingency plans and the
:04:31. > :04:35.trade union has a responsibility to call off the threat of strike
:04:35. > :04:41.action. It is the last thing that the British economy needs at a time
:04:41. > :04:45.like this. What is so toxic for the Government is the accusation of
:04:45. > :04:50.independence, that the mixed messages of jerry cans and filling
:04:50. > :04:54.tanks is making the situation worse. If people don't trust the
:04:54. > :04:59.Government to handle this, how will they handle other things like the
:04:59. > :05:03.economy? On a week when the taxes for the rich were kilt and the
:05:04. > :05:09.Tories under fire for having dinners in Downing Street and a row
:05:09. > :05:12.on slapping VAT on pasties, it led to accusations that the ministers
:05:12. > :05:15.don't understand what the families are going through.
:05:15. > :05:20.Many families are not running out of money at the end of the month
:05:20. > :05:24.but the start. A Government not going the extra mile to help them
:05:24. > :05:28.will suffer. So while the demand for the fuel is
:05:29. > :05:32.going up, the Tories' poll ratings are going down. The last thing they
:05:32. > :05:38.need weeks away from local elections.
:05:38. > :05:43.Now, let's join Nick Robinson outside a service station in
:05:43. > :05:49.Suffolk. The Government strategy of urging people to stock up seems to
:05:49. > :05:52.have back fired? It has. There are so many stories that affect the
:05:52. > :05:57.Westminster village, but not the real world. Here in the real world,
:05:57. > :06:01.the garage there is fulling cars and filling. This garage here, has
:06:01. > :06:06.now a car, but no petrol to sell. In the last half an hour they
:06:06. > :06:10.emptied all of the pumps. The petrol has gone. The curious thing
:06:10. > :06:14.is there therefore, that there are the queues, the frustrated
:06:14. > :06:18.motorists, the panic buying but there is not actually a strike.
:06:18. > :06:23.That is the bizarre nature of what has happened. Even mo so, that this
:06:23. > :06:26.was part of a Government plan. Not this precisely, of course, but they
:06:26. > :06:28.were so concerned about the repeat of what happened in the year 2000
:06:29. > :06:33.when Tony Blair was the Prime Minister, when the hospitals lost
:06:33. > :06:37.the fuel that they needed, there was a real fear that the economy
:06:37. > :06:43.would grind to a halt, a fear in Tony Blair's mind he would be
:06:43. > :06:47.driven out of office by the crisis, they decided to try and induce slow,
:06:47. > :06:52.steady controlled panic buying. You will see the problem of that phrase,
:06:52. > :06:55.Fiona, it is pretty hard to have a panic that is slow, steady and
:06:55. > :07:00.controlled, that is what we are discovering here.
:07:00. > :07:04.As we saw in the report, this is the latest in a series of difficult
:07:04. > :07:07.moments for the Government this week? Yes, it has been an
:07:07. > :07:11.extraordinary week for the Government. The back lash on the
:07:11. > :07:16.Budget over the granny tax, the pasty tax. The funding scandal as
:07:16. > :07:20.well, now we have what is happening on petrol. Now, governments go
:07:20. > :07:24.through moments like this, but the reason this is one that is so
:07:24. > :07:30.significant is this: So far the austerity programme has met
:07:30. > :07:32.remarkably little resistance in the electorate. Yet, if people come to
:07:32. > :07:37.the view that austerity is something that is imposed on them
:07:37. > :07:43.by a group of people who are, frankly, out of touch, people who
:07:43. > :07:47.talk about garages, and Jerry cans and going to a quarter of a million
:07:47. > :07:50.pound dinner, then that would have real political impact. The
:07:50. > :07:55.Government's hope, of course, is that will not be the case. They are
:07:55. > :07:59.nothing the downside, putting on tax on a pasty for example, to try
:07:59. > :08:04.to give people an income tax cut, the joke around Downing Street is
:08:04. > :08:08.you would have to eat 900 pasties in order to pay as much tax as the
:08:08. > :08:12.Chancellor was actually saving you from the increase in the personal
:08:12. > :08:18.allowance. What they are discovering as so many governments
:08:18. > :08:23.do, is that people notice the pain, they never thank you for the gain.
:08:23. > :08:28.Thank you very much. Plans to develop a new generation
:08:28. > :08:33.of nuclear power station in the UK have been dealt a blow. Two major
:08:33. > :08:38.companies have pulled out of the developments in Anglesey and
:08:38. > :08:42.Gloucester. The companies, RWE and E.ON, says
:08:42. > :08:46.that the decision was made on global factors.
:08:46. > :08:53.On many levels, the decision to pull out of building a nuclear
:08:53. > :08:57.plant near to the existing one on Anglesey has come as a blow. It
:08:57. > :09:00.undermines the Government's energy policy, involving nuclear
:09:01. > :09:04.facilities and has thrown into doubt the creations of thousands of
:09:04. > :09:08.local jobs. This was a shock not just to
:09:08. > :09:13.Anglesey, but to the whole of the Welsh economy and the British
:09:13. > :09:18.nuclear industry. Two German companies, RWE and E.ON
:09:18. > :09:24.have hospitaled -- omented not to go ahead with the project. Also
:09:24. > :09:28.another in Gloucester. The decision was due to Germany's move to phase
:09:28. > :09:33.out nuclear power after the Japanese earthquake and tsunami.
:09:34. > :09:40.The UK has impending power gap. Around a quarter of our generating
:09:40. > :09:43.capacity is set to be lost by 2023 as it is too old. Unless lots of
:09:43. > :09:49.new power plants are built, the Government warned that power cuts
:09:49. > :09:53.could be a regular occurrence towards the end of the decade. With
:09:53. > :09:58.the announcement, a �15 billion scheme being put on hold it would
:09:58. > :10:02.have provided a third of the new generating power capacity required.
:10:02. > :10:06.There is an argument developing. It may be difficult to attract
:10:06. > :10:13.investors because of the cost of building nuclear stations and the
:10:13. > :10:17.period before a profit is made. Nuclear power is expensive to
:10:17. > :10:22.blrbgs and cheap to run. Gas turbines are cheap to build, but
:10:22. > :10:27.expensive to run. But another energy company
:10:27. > :10:31.investing in UK nuclear power is committed. In the energy mix
:10:31. > :10:36.nuclear is an important role to play in the future for the security
:10:36. > :10:41.of the supply, for the affordability, for climate change
:10:41. > :10:46.and for the jobs and the growth agenda.
:10:46. > :10:49.The viability of nuclear power has been questioned by many. They argue
:10:49. > :10:53.that the Government should be persuing green technology.
:10:53. > :10:58.We have a Government policy dedicated to delivering nuclear
:10:58. > :11:03.power that is coming unstuck, but we are losing the opportunity to do
:11:03. > :11:08.the clean energy approaches like efficiency and renewables where the
:11:09. > :11:12.UK skran a competitive advantage. Ministers said that the nuclear
:11:12. > :11:18.policy was on track, but even they conceded that the decision by the
:11:18. > :11:23.German companies was a setback. Concerns have emerged over the
:11:23. > :11:26.possible contamination of a fluied used to transport donor organs.
:11:26. > :11:30.Production of the solution, Viaspan is being stopped while the tests
:11:30. > :11:36.are carried out. The Department of Health insists that there is no
:11:36. > :11:40.evidence that anyone has suffered adverse effects. The transports are
:11:40. > :11:46.to continue as normal. -- transplants.
:11:46. > :11:52.Viaspan is a fluied used to preserve organs after they are
:11:52. > :11:56.removed from the donor before being transplanted. Hospitals were warned
:11:56. > :11:59.that bacterial contamination was found in the solution used to check
:11:59. > :12:04.the donors. Tests are under way to see if the
:12:04. > :12:07.product has the bacteria. A bug which is a common cause of food
:12:07. > :12:12.poisoning and can lead to diarrhoea and vomiting.
:12:12. > :12:16.I do not think that any patients who had transplants should be
:12:16. > :12:21.worried. If there was infection of the product used during that
:12:21. > :12:25.transplant, the patients are on a lot of antibiotics, for at least
:12:25. > :12:29.ten days after the operation. Any bacteria would have been killed any
:12:29. > :12:35.way by that antibiotic. The batches of the Viaspan involved
:12:35. > :12:40.date back to July of last year. It is used to transport several types
:12:40. > :12:45.of organ. The most common is liver. There are 700 to 800 transplants a
:12:45. > :12:51.year. Pancreas, 250 and up to 40 bowl transplants.
:12:51. > :12:56.There are no reports of any patient being sick. Viaspan has not been
:12:56. > :13:00.recalled. It can be used for transplants until alternative
:13:00. > :13:05.products can be found. Without a transplant the patients
:13:05. > :13:10.can die. So every decision has to be taken on clinical need by the
:13:10. > :13:15.transplant surgeon with input from the patient, but we can see no
:13:15. > :13:20.reason to stop transplanting. Yesterday, MPs criticised the
:13:20. > :13:25.Department of Health and medical regulators for not doing more to
:13:25. > :13:34.alert patients to another potential contamination. That of PIP breast
:13:34. > :13:36.implants. Today's alert is purely a Spanish police have fired rubber
:13:36. > :13:38.bullets to disperse a crowd in Barcelona during demonstrations
:13:38. > :13:41.backing today's general strike. Tomorrow budget reforms will be
:13:41. > :13:44.announced which will axe tens of billions of euros of spending,
:13:44. > :13:47.adding to cuts that have already squeezed public services. Spain is
:13:47. > :13:57.in its second recession and has the highest level of unemployment in
:13:57. > :14:00.
:14:00. > :14:06.the EU. Our Europe editor Gavin The cry, "Join the general strike"
:14:06. > :14:10.- Spanish unions are angry over plans making it easier to hire and
:14:10. > :14:16.fire workers, angry too with austerity cuts.
:14:16. > :14:22.Protesters burnt bins to block roads. In Barcelona, rioters threw
:14:22. > :14:29.rocks at banks and started fires. The police responded with rubber
:14:29. > :14:33.bullets. Support for the strike was patchy, but hundreds of thousands
:14:33. > :14:37.joined the demonstration in Madrid tonight. Spain is currently the
:14:37. > :14:42.country causing the most concern in the Eurozone. The EU insists it
:14:42. > :14:47.must cut its deficit, but the economy is shrinking. We got an
:14:47. > :14:51.economy in recession with unemployment going up from the 24%.
:14:51. > :14:55.And at the same time, we have to implement spending cuts.
:14:55. > :15:01.Here are the problems - there is still a hangover from the housing
:15:01. > :15:08.crash. On average, there are around 140 evictions every day. Protesters
:15:08. > :15:12.regularly try and stop them. Teresa Cabererro lost her home this week.
:15:12. > :15:18.House prices are is still falling, deepening concerns about the debt
:15:18. > :15:24.held by Spanish banks. Then there is unemployment. Eduardo and Maria
:15:24. > :15:28.Jose are brother and sister, both out of work. Unemployment is at 24%
:15:28. > :15:36.and still rising. In my last interview, there were about 40 or
:15:36. > :15:41.50 candidates trying to get the job. A further problem is the debt of
:15:41. > :15:46.the regions. Valencia has the highest debt, a region struggling
:15:46. > :15:51.with the legacy of having backed prestigious projects. Valencia
:15:51. > :15:56.splashed out on a dazzling city of arts and sciences. The only problem
:15:56. > :16:01.- debt, still around 600 million euros. This airport glimmers in the
:16:01. > :16:05.sun. The cost, 150 million euros of public money, but there was know
:16:05. > :16:09.demand, and no plane has ever landed here. Those who support the
:16:09. > :16:14.Government say there is no alternative to austerity. The risk
:16:14. > :16:19.is not taking the decision in favour of the austerity because
:16:19. > :16:24.austerity - for me, austerity is to put order at home. The crowds on
:16:24. > :16:28.the streets this evening know there will be a Budget tomorrow which the
:16:28. > :16:35.government says will be very, very austere. The fear is that this
:16:35. > :16:40.country, already in recession, is being locked into a downward spiral.
:16:40. > :16:43.Coming up on tonight's programme: The murder of two British friends
:16:43. > :16:51.in Florida last year. In court, the teenager found guilty of shooting
:16:51. > :16:56.them hears this emotional testimony from a friend of the victims.
:16:56. > :17:03.night you go to sleep. Every morning you wake up. I want you to
:17:03. > :17:09.think of my friend who you murdered. Their images will be impresented on
:17:09. > :17:11.your con-- imprinted on your conscience up until your very last
:17:11. > :17:16.breath in life. The bodies of three British
:17:16. > :17:19.servicemen killed in Afghanistan have been flown back home. Two of
:17:19. > :17:21.them were shot dead by an Afghan soldier on Monday. The Defence
:17:21. > :17:24.Secretary Philip Hammond, who's in the capital Kabul, has insisted
:17:24. > :17:26.that the strategy of British forces serving alongside and training
:17:26. > :17:34.Afghan soldiers is still working. Our defence correspondent, Jonathan
:17:34. > :17:37.Beale reports from Afghanistan. The Defence Secretary flew into
:17:37. > :17:41.Helmand province to the very same base where the two British
:17:41. > :17:48.servicemen have been killed by an Afghan soldier earlier this week.
:17:48. > :17:53.Lashkar Gah, still in mourning. Despite that tragedy, there has
:17:53. > :17:57.been no change in strategy. Mr Hammond witnessed soldiers from
:17:57. > :18:02.both nations on a joint patrol. You've got to put it in a context.
:18:02. > :18:05.There are thousands and thousands of contacts between A and and A and
:18:05. > :18:12.British troops every day. Once in a blue moon, something tragic like
:18:12. > :18:16.this happens. We can't let that derail the mission. But British and
:18:16. > :18:20.Afghan troops are continuing to work side by side even if,
:18:20. > :18:25.inevitably, they are more wary, but this is the only strategy that'll
:18:25. > :18:28.eventually allow British troops to leave. Already this year across the
:18:28. > :18:32.country 15 international troops have been killed by men wearing
:18:32. > :18:36.either police or Afghan Army uniform. Overall, there have been
:18:36. > :18:41.more than 70 so-called green-on- blue killings since the war began,
:18:41. > :18:44.so do they trust the men they're training? I trust the guys I work
:18:44. > :18:48.with 100% definitely. It is bad, but there is nothing you can do
:18:48. > :18:51.about it. It's the job we have to do, and we have to get on with it,
:18:51. > :18:55.so... The Defence Secretary may have confidence in the strategy,
:18:55. > :19:00.but this is a security force being built from scratch. With thousands
:19:00. > :19:05.of Afghan troops and police being trained every month and a fledgling
:19:05. > :19:10.government working with limited data to check their backgrounds.
:19:10. > :19:15.Such checks did not save the lives of the soldiers whose bodies were
:19:15. > :19:19.repatriated today. Sergeant Luke Taylor of the Royal Marines was 33
:19:19. > :19:26.and had just become a father, and 25-year-old Lance Corporal Michael
:19:26. > :19:31.Foley of the Adjutant General's Corps had three children. Captain
:19:31. > :19:34.Rupert Bowers was killed by a roadside bomb. The pain of the loss
:19:34. > :19:39.shared in Afghanistan. Today the Defence Secretary signed
:19:39. > :19:42.an agreement to set up a British- run military academy run in
:19:42. > :19:46.Afghanistan that'll guarantee the UK's long-term commitment to the
:19:46. > :19:48.country, but there can be no assurances that there won't be
:19:48. > :19:56.other rogue Afghan soldiers and police.
:19:56. > :20:00.APPLAUSE Travellers at Stansted Airport
:20:00. > :20:05.faced disruption after baggage handlers diverted to a strike next
:20:05. > :20:14.week over a row over pay. It will begin on April 6 and continue on
:20:15. > :20:18.Easter Saturday and Easter Monday. A friend of the two British
:20:18. > :20:23.tourists shot on holiday last year in Florida have come face to face
:20:23. > :20:26.with their killer. Shawn Tyson was sentenced to life without parole
:20:26. > :20:31.for murdering James Kouzaris and James Cooper. Their friends read
:20:31. > :20:34.out emotional impact statements as Steve Kingston reports from
:20:34. > :20:39.Sarasota. TRANSLATION: I sentence you to life
:20:39. > :20:45.in prison. 17 years old, and Shawn Tyson will spend the rest of his
:20:45. > :20:49.life behind bars. During sentencing he was shown a tribute to his
:20:49. > :20:53.British victims, James Kouzaris, a keen rugby player who worked in
:20:53. > :20:56.local Government, and James Cooper, a tennis coach, whose mother sent a
:20:56. > :21:00.message which was read out by prosecutors. When he was a child I
:21:00. > :21:05.said to him every night, "If you carry on the way you have started,
:21:05. > :21:09.you'll be the greatest man who ever lived." He proved me right.
:21:09. > :21:13.friend of the victims spoke directly to the convicted murderer.
:21:13. > :21:20.A Every night you go to sleep, every morning you wake up, I want
:21:20. > :21:23.you to think of my friend who you murdered. Their images will be
:21:23. > :21:27.imprinted on your conscience until your very last breath. On the night
:21:27. > :21:32.of their deaths, the two friends had been out drinking. Security
:21:32. > :21:37.cameras in a bar showed them chatting to other customers. At
:21:37. > :21:42.closing time they set out on foot ending up 20 blocks away at this
:21:42. > :21:47.low-income housing project. At 3.00am, residents heard gunfire.
:21:47. > :21:50.We just rode through the old projects. We seen a white dude
:21:50. > :21:54.laying there, blood everywhere. He's just laid out. He's just
:21:54. > :21:58.laying on the ground. I think he's dead now. The bodies of the two
:21:58. > :22:02.Britons were found lying on either side of this street. James Kouzaris
:22:02. > :22:05.had been shot twice, James Cooper, four times. Both men were still
:22:05. > :22:10.carrying their wallets and their mobile phones, but the police
:22:10. > :22:15.believe this had at least started out as an attempted robbery. That's
:22:15. > :22:20.because the victims' trousers were pulled down, apparently to stop
:22:20. > :22:23.them running away. Witnesses testified Shawn Tyson boasted about
:22:23. > :22:27.the killings. He had been in custody after an earlier arrest.
:22:27. > :22:32.Hours before the shootings, he was freed by a judge. Outside the court,
:22:32. > :22:36.the victim's friends said that was a fatal mistake. We'd like to
:22:36. > :22:40.stress our horror which led to the premature release of Shawn Tyson.
:22:40. > :22:47.Indeed, the events of April 16 wouldn't come to fruition without
:22:47. > :22:57.his wrongful release. So in this most inviting of place, justice is
:22:57. > :23:04.
:23:04. > :23:07.tinged with recrimination over the end of two young lives.
:23:07. > :23:09.Stuart Lancaster has been appointed as the head coach of England's
:23:09. > :23:13.Rugby Union team following his successful spell as interim manager
:23:13. > :23:16.during the Six Nations campaign. He said he was honoured to be taking
:23:16. > :23:20.on the role full time - his first task will be to prepare England for
:23:20. > :23:23.a tough summer tour to South Africa. He's a Hollywood superstar, an
:23:23. > :23:26.outspoken critic of US politics and the founder of the respected
:23:26. > :23:29.Sundance film Festival. Robert Redford is bringing his festival to
:23:29. > :23:32.London at the end of April to showcase the best of American
:23:32. > :23:35.independent film. Our arts editor Will Gompertz went to New York for
:23:35. > :23:38.an exclusive interview with a man not afraid to speak his mind about
:23:38. > :23:44.his country. America, unmistakable, and in the
:23:44. > :23:46.eyes of millions, beautiful. You could say the same about him -
:23:46. > :23:51.Robert Redford, movie star, political activist and the man
:23:51. > :23:56.behind the Sundance Film Festival, which he's bringing to London next
:23:56. > :24:01.month. I asked him why when I met him in New York. Independent film
:24:02. > :24:06.reflects the value of change, and - including the consequences, and I
:24:06. > :24:09.think it's just a different view of our country that I'm very proud of
:24:09. > :24:15.because it is a legitimate view, but it's different from the one
:24:15. > :24:19.that's being sold on air or with a great deal of money to market. It's
:24:19. > :24:23.a little bit askew of that, but it's real. The festival is based
:24:23. > :24:27.around his home in Utah, a place that gives him space to think -
:24:27. > :24:31.about the American way. It's a country determined on winning, as
:24:31. > :24:34.you can see in our current political climate. It's all about
:24:34. > :24:43.winning, and it's all about the ego attached to winning and what people
:24:43. > :24:47.will do and say just to win! All a man can say is, here I am. In 1972
:24:47. > :24:52.Robert Redford starred in The Candidate playing a once idealistic
:24:52. > :24:56.man who lets his standards slip in the pursuit of power, a fiction he
:24:56. > :25:03.thinks that's now become fact in American political life.
:25:03. > :25:07.I think our Congress is not the best and the brightest. I think
:25:07. > :25:13.that it's obvious to the world that we're a polarised nation now
:25:13. > :25:20.politically. It's very depressing to me to see the quality of
:25:20. > :25:23.discussion, the quality of intellectual exchange so damaged by
:25:23. > :25:30.the behaviour of a lot of the people that are running for office.
:25:30. > :25:33.It's embarrassing. Why didn't you become a politician? You see Reagan
:25:33. > :25:37.did. Are you kidding? That would be - first of all, it's too narrow.
:25:37. > :25:41.You have to behave - you can't be your total natural self, as you can
:25:41. > :25:44.see on television. Is there any one of these people that you feel is
:25:44. > :25:49.really, really natural - unless they're so crazy, they're natural?
:25:49. > :25:55.Hi, I'm Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. Redford revisited
:25:55. > :25:59.the dark side of American politics in All the President's Men. He had
:25:59. > :26:05.a high regard for journalism when it was made, less so now.
:26:05. > :26:09.Well, I didn't know it at the time, but I just happened to tie into a
:26:09. > :26:14.moment in history that was a high point. I think I came in when
:26:14. > :26:18.journalism had reached an apex of morality and professionalism and so
:26:18. > :26:22.forth, and I was very lucky. I think it's sad to say it's pretty
:26:23. > :26:27.obvious that it's declined since then. Redford found fame starring
:26:27. > :26:33.alongside Paul Newman in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
:26:33. > :26:37.next thing I say let's go someplace like bowl I'veia, let's go. Today
:26:37. > :26:41.the Sundance Kid is an old man. I asked him how he thinks life has
:26:41. > :26:45.changed over the years. I guess there is an obsession with youth.
:26:46. > :26:51.Now you have all of these methods of reconstructing yourselves to
:26:51. > :26:55.look younger and younger. I don't buy that. I like to see an older
:26:55. > :26:59.woman who has carried her age and her experience with her. I find
:26:59. > :27:03.that very attractive. Robert Redford is an actor who chose to