:00:08. > :00:13.We are in Edinburgh, where the Scottish government has published
:00:14. > :00:18.its plans for independence. With ten months to go to the referendum, the
:00:19. > :00:22.First Minister and his deputy unveiled their mission statement,
:00:23. > :00:26.but opponents say it's a work of fiction. With independence we could
:00:27. > :00:30.have the powers and responsibilities we need to seize opportunities, to
:00:31. > :00:34.build a wealthier and fairer nation, but also to face our major
:00:35. > :00:38.challenges. They were supposed to come up with all the answers anyone
:00:39. > :00:43.could want to know with any thing to do with independence, but there is
:00:44. > :00:48.nothing new. But what do Scotland's voters make of it? We will be in
:00:49. > :00:52.Dundee, asking people for their reaction to the prospect of
:00:53. > :00:56.independence. Also, a police officer is charged over the so-called
:00:57. > :01:00.plebgate affair. It is alleged he falsely claimed to have seen the
:01:01. > :01:04.incident involving former Cabinet minister Andrew Mitchell in Downing
:01:05. > :01:08.Street. The celebrity chef Nigella Lawson is accused in court of being
:01:09. > :01:13.a regular user of cocaine and other drugs by her ex-husband, Charles
:01:14. > :01:17.Saatchi. A sharp rise in deaths last winter, more than 31,000 were linked
:01:18. > :01:25.to cold weather, most of them pensioners. And the end of the road
:01:26. > :01:30.for Celtic, as Milan put them out of the Champions League. In Sportsday,
:01:31. > :01:34.find out if Chelsea and Arsenal were able to book their places in the
:01:35. > :01:35.last 16 of the Champions League in what has been a busy night in
:01:36. > :02:01.Europe. Good evening from the Scottish
:02:02. > :02:06.parliament in Edinburgh. With ten months to go before next year's
:02:07. > :02:10.referendum, the Scottish government has set out its vision of an
:02:11. > :02:14.independent country. Alex Salmond, the First Minister, is promoting
:02:15. > :02:18.independence as a way of changing Scotland for the better. The rather
:02:19. > :02:23.hefty document he published today, some 650 pages of it, does include a
:02:24. > :02:27.long list of policy pledges. But his opponents say this is a work of
:02:28. > :02:32.fiction, full of meaningless assertions. First, our special
:02:33. > :02:34.correspondent reports on the independence plan unveiled today.
:02:35. > :02:41.This report contains some flash photography. For nationalists this
:02:42. > :02:46.was an exhilarating moment, a game-changing landmark, they hope,
:02:47. > :02:50.on the march to independence. All Europe is watching now. There were
:02:51. > :02:53.cameras and reporters from across the continent, as Alex Salmond
:02:54. > :02:58.detailed the character and shape of the new Scotland he hopes will be
:02:59. > :03:02.born soon. An independent Scotland could have the eighth highest
:03:03. > :03:05.economic output and the 10th highest national income per head of
:03:06. > :03:10.population in the whole of the developed world. So what would an
:03:11. > :03:15.independent Scotland look like? It would be a kingdom with the Queen as
:03:16. > :03:19.head of state. It would join NATO, but demand the removal of submarine
:03:20. > :03:22.born Trident nuclear missiles within four years. And it would keep the
:03:23. > :03:29.pound as part of a sterling zone with the rest of the UK. And what if
:03:30. > :03:34.the UK Government refused to share the pound? Then an independent
:03:35. > :03:39.Scotland, Alex Salmond told me, might refuse to share Britain's
:03:40. > :03:43.national debt. These things follow as night follows day. We've
:03:44. > :03:47.indicated a willingness in this document that we will accept the
:03:48. > :03:50.financing of some of the massive obligations and liabilities that
:03:51. > :03:53.have been built up by Alistair Darling and now George Osborne. But
:03:54. > :03:57.that is predicated on the share of assets, you have to share both sides
:03:58. > :04:32.of the balance sheet. One of these assets is sterling and the Bank of
:04:33. > :04:35.England. It is a truly immense tome, it runs to 670 pages and the
:04:36. > :04:36.last section provides detailed answers to 650 separate questions,
:04:37. > :04:38.on everything from consumer protection to national defence. It
:04:39. > :04:40.includes a commitment for a Scottish broadcasting service to replace BBC
:04:41. > :04:42.Scotland. And for a single Intelligence and Security Committee
:04:43. > :04:45.replace MI5 and MI6. It answers questions like, will Scotland have
:04:46. > :04:47.security post that the lan d border with England? Answer, no. And, can
:04:48. > :04:49.Scotland afford to be independent? Answer, these include a huge
:04:50. > :04:51.expansion of childcare, to allow women to go back into the
:04:52. > :04:54.workplace, the scrapping of the so-called bedroom tax, I guarantee
:04:55. > :04:58.that the value of pensions will be protected under the minimum wage
:04:59. > :05:01.would rise with this is a country of two national identities interwoven.
:05:02. > :05:04.Many here are genuinely tall. But opponents of independent this is a
:05:05. > :05:07.country of two national identities interwoven. Many here are genuinely
:05:08. > :05:10.torn. But opponents of Alex Salmond's He's got nothing new to
:05:11. > :05:14.say. You just repeat the assertions and claims he's been making for
:05:15. > :05:18.years. He says there will be a currency union. He ignores the fact
:05:19. > :05:21.there would have to be in negotiation, and in a negotiation
:05:22. > :05:26.you don't get everything you want. It takes two. They've got to reach
:05:27. > :05:31.agreement. But there's a danger in this line, for pro-independence
:05:32. > :05:34.campaigner see this as a battle between the sunlit promise of a new
:05:35. > :05:36.start and the fearful caution of the status quo, for pro-independence
:05:37. > :05:45.campaigner see this as a battle between the sunlit promise of a new
:05:46. > :05:49.start and the fearful caution of the status and might that yet swing is
:05:50. > :05:53.the health of the Scottish economy and how that would be affected by
:05:54. > :05:57.independence. The aim of keeping the pound sterling in a currency union
:05:58. > :06:00.has been dismissed by Downing Street. Alex Salmond insists that
:06:01. > :06:03.Scotland can become a more prosperous nation, but his opponents
:06:04. > :06:07.say he has no answer to the practical challenges of leaving the
:06:08. > :06:16.UK. Nick Robinson consider some of the main questions raised when he
:06:17. > :06:20.was the fastest man on two wheels, Sir Chris Hoy won medals. Some in
:06:21. > :06:24.the name of Great Britain, some in the name of Scotland. But those
:06:25. > :06:28.following in his wake and all their fellow countrymen are now in effect
:06:29. > :06:31.being asked to when he was the fastest man on two wheels, Sir Chris
:06:32. > :06:34.Hoy one medals. Some in the name of Great Britain, some in the name of
:06:35. > :06:37.Scotland. But those following in his wake and all their fellow countrymen
:06:38. > :06:39.are now in effect being asked which team they really want to belong a
:06:40. > :06:41.burst of national optimism will follow next summer's Commonwealth
:06:42. > :06:46.Games. That Scots will then believe that they are better off in team
:06:47. > :06:49.Scotland. Better off leaving Alex Salmond's dreamers that a burst of
:06:50. > :06:50.national optimism will follow next summer's Commonwealth Games. That
:06:51. > :06:53.Scots will then believe that they are better off in team Scotland.
:06:54. > :06:59.Better off leaving. But if that is to be right, he's got an awful lot
:07:00. > :07:02.of questions still to wouldn't just be in the interests of an
:07:03. > :07:05.independent Scotland to keep using the pound, it would be good for the
:07:06. > :07:08.top of the list in Glasgow today, questions about the pound. This
:07:09. > :07:10.weighty tome claims it wouldn't just be in the interests of an
:07:11. > :07:13.independent Scotland to keep using the pound, it would be good for the
:07:14. > :07:16.rest of the UK too. So with that is The problem is the current UK
:07:17. > :07:18.Government doesn't think this is a terribly good idea. And also the
:07:19. > :07:21.Labour opposition at Westminster has signalled also isn't very keen on
:07:22. > :07:24.the idea either The problem is the current UK Government doesn't think
:07:25. > :07:26.this is a terribly good idea. And also the Labour opposition at
:07:27. > :07:35.Westminster has signalled also isn't very keen on the idea a the next key
:07:36. > :07:37.question, could Scotland simply stay in the EU if voters choose
:07:38. > :07:40.independent? The government in Edinburgh insists the answer is yet
:07:41. > :07:42.-- yes. But a repeated their view that new countries have to apply
:07:43. > :07:51.from the treaty provide some clear articles when it comes to the need
:07:52. > :07:56.for to apply to the EU if they want to join. Alex Salmond also moved to
:07:57. > :08:01.reassure voters that they'd still get their favourite BBC shows, even
:08:02. > :08:04.though there will be a new Scottish broadcasting service. I asked him
:08:05. > :08:08.whether he could really promise people that all the things they
:08:09. > :08:11.liked wouldn't country to apply to the EU if they want to join. Alex
:08:12. > :08:13.Salmond also moved to reassure voters that they'd still get their
:08:14. > :08:15.favourite BBC shows, even though there will be a new Scottish
:08:16. > :08:17.broadcasting service. I asked him whether he could really promise
:08:18. > :08:20.people that all the things they liked wouldn't and that Scots
:08:21. > :08:22.viewers will be able to watch study come dancing. Wouldn't it be more
:08:23. > :08:25.and that Scots viewers will be able to watch study come dancing.
:08:26. > :08:29.Wouldn't it be to voters to add words like perhaps, fingers crossed
:08:30. > :08:36.and hope for the, fingers crossed and hope for the logical. The people
:08:37. > :08:43.will judge. They will look at the Guess case, the reasonable case we
:08:44. > :08:47.are making for Scottish independence they will judge it against the no
:08:48. > :08:53.campaign and the cry of doom, gloom and negativity. Top of his promises
:08:54. > :08:56.is more childcare, paid for in part by less defence spending. It's time
:08:57. > :09:01.for the Scottish government and Scottish Nationalists to own up and
:09:02. > :09:05.say, yes, you can do lots of things but there will be prizes attached to
:09:06. > :09:09.them. The message in Glasgow, everything will change if Scotland
:09:10. > :09:18.votes for independence, except, that is, not that much will change. Good,
:09:19. > :09:20.or too good to be true they will judge it against the no campaign and
:09:21. > :09:23.the criers of doom, gloom and negativity. Top of his promises is
:09:24. > :09:25.more childcare, paid for in part by less defence spending. It's time for
:09:26. > :09:28.the Scottish government and Scottish Nationalists to own up and say, yes,
:09:29. > :09:31.you can do lots of things but there will be prizes attached to them. The
:09:32. > :09:32.message in Glasgow, everything will change if Scotland votes for
:09:33. > :09:36.independence, except, that is, not that much will change. Good, or too
:09:37. > :09:38.good to be true? The people will get the final so let's consider what has
:09:39. > :09:40.changed today. We Nicola Sturgeon was wearing an outfit of Harris to
:09:41. > :10:31.that Nicola Sturgeon was wearing an Critics say, you would not be able
:10:32. > :10:35.to afford these within the economy. But Alex Salmond is trying to appeal
:10:36. > :10:39.over the heads of the politicians, over the heads of the more is Derek
:10:40. > :10:45.aspects, and giving a direct pitch to voters, first of all to reassure
:10:46. > :10:48.them about what stays the same, but secondly to offer them change and
:10:49. > :10:53.advantage, who offer them gain, to offer them a plus. This has become
:10:54. > :11:01.an intriguing second front in this referendum campaign. We will be back
:11:02. > :11:04.later with some thoughts from the city of Dundee on what it means to
:11:05. > :11:12.be Scottish these days. Back to London. The former Cabinet Minister
:11:13. > :11:16.Andrew Mitchell has accused the police with whom he clashed in
:11:17. > :11:19.Downing Street of not telling the truth. It follows the news that an
:11:20. > :11:23.officer has been charged over allegations that he falsely claimed
:11:24. > :11:27.to have witnessed the incident. Seven other police officers face
:11:28. > :11:31.this conduct proceedings. This report contains flash photography.
:11:32. > :11:35.This is the moment more than a year ago when the police refused to let
:11:36. > :11:38.Cabinet Minister Andrew Mitchell cycle through the main gates of
:11:39. > :11:42.Downing Street. He denied calling them plebs in the altercation that
:11:43. > :11:47.followed, but he was not believed. So, under relentless pressure, not
:11:48. > :11:52.least from the police, he resigned. When new evidence came to light, an
:11:53. > :11:57.investigation began, and today, prosecutors said one policeman would
:11:58. > :12:00.be charged and seven others would face disciplinary proceedings. This
:12:01. > :12:07.afternoon, alongside his wife, Mr Mitchell let rip. I have told the
:12:08. > :12:11.truth about these incidences. The police did not. My reputation was
:12:12. > :12:16.destroyed. I was spat at in the street. I lost my job after a career
:12:17. > :12:21.spanning more than 25 years in Parliament. The Crown Prosecution
:12:22. > :12:25.Service said PC Keith Wallis will be charged with misconduct in a public
:12:26. > :12:29.office after falsely claiming in any mail to have witnessed the incident
:12:30. > :12:33.in Downing Street. Scotland Yard said seven other officers would face
:12:34. > :12:39.disciplinary proceedings, including gross misconduct for some. But they
:12:40. > :12:43.said there was not enough evidence to prove a conspiracy. The policeman
:12:44. > :12:49.at the centre of the case, Tony Rowland, will not face any
:12:50. > :12:56.proceedings, having not been arrested or spoken to under caution.
:12:57. > :13:01.He was not telling the truth. I will seek to say this on oath in a court
:13:02. > :13:07.of law, and it is our intention to make sure that PC Toby Roland has to
:13:08. > :13:11.swear his account. Tonight, PC Roland said in a statement that he
:13:12. > :13:15.stood by his account and was prepared to give evidence under oath
:13:16. > :13:19.if required. This case remains unresolved. It is still not proven
:13:20. > :13:22.who said what to whom. Andrew Mitchell will have to wait before
:13:23. > :13:26.any possible return to government, and the police have some work to do
:13:27. > :13:30.to recover the public trust that they have lost. How much do you
:13:31. > :13:35.regret the original altercation? Of course I wish it had not happened,
:13:36. > :13:43.but I was obstructed from leaving Downing Street. I made that point.
:13:44. > :13:48.Andrew Mitchell and his wife weight on. Above all, they say, for those
:13:49. > :13:54.who do not have the money, or friends like theirs, to challenge
:13:55. > :13:58.the police. Celebrity chef Nigella Lawson has been accused in court of
:13:59. > :14:03.being a regular user of cocaine and other drugs by her former husband.
:14:04. > :14:06.Charles Saatchi claimed in any mail that she was so off her head on
:14:07. > :14:10.drugs that she had allowed to personal assistants to spend the
:14:11. > :14:14.couple's money on whatever they liked. The assistants are both on
:14:15. > :14:25.trial accused of committing fraud. Sangita Myska's report contains
:14:26. > :14:29.flash photography. Nigella Lawson, daughter of a top politician and one
:14:30. > :14:33.of Britain's most celebrated television chefs. A string of TV
:14:34. > :14:38.shows and books has earned her ?20 million and a place on the celebrity
:14:39. > :14:45.circuit. Today, her two former personal assistants, Elisabetta
:14:46. > :14:51.Grillo and Francesca Grillo, came to court to face Georges that they had
:14:52. > :14:54.defrauded Nigella Lawson and her ex-husband to the tune of hundreds
:14:55. > :15:01.of thousands of pounds. Charles Saatchi, a multimillionaire art
:15:02. > :15:03.collector, and Nigella Lawson recently divorced acrimoniously
:15:04. > :15:07.after photographs of them outside a restaurant were published, one of
:15:08. > :15:11.which appeared to show Vista Saatchi with his hands around her throat. In
:15:12. > :15:16.another, she appears to be leaving the restaurant in tears. Today, as
:15:17. > :15:19.part of the fraud trial, the judge read any mail from Charles Saatchi
:15:20. > :15:37.to Nigella Lawson. It said... A court had also previously heard
:15:38. > :15:42.that the Grillos' defence team claimed that Nigella Lawson used
:15:43. > :15:47.cocaine, prescription drugs and class B drugs and that her personal
:15:48. > :15:51.assistants had been given use of credit cards with the tacit
:15:52. > :15:58.acceptance that they would not reveal how drug use to her
:15:59. > :15:59.ex-husband, Charles Saatchi. The Grillo sisters deny the charges. The
:16:00. > :16:08.trial continues. Last winter saw one of the coldest
:16:09. > :16:12.spells on record - and now there is new evidence of a sharp rise in the
:16:13. > :16:15.number of people who died. There were more than 31,000 extra deaths
:16:16. > :16:20.in England and Wales according to official figures. That's an increase
:16:21. > :16:24.of 29% on the previous winter. The majority of the deaths - more than
:16:25. > :16:26.25,000 of them - were among the over-75s. Doctors have called the
:16:27. > :16:29.figures "disturbing" and say fuel poverty is a major factor. Our
:16:30. > :16:36.health correspondent, Branwen Jeffreys, reports.
:16:37. > :16:43.It felt as though last winter went on for ever. Snow in March and
:16:44. > :16:55.bitterly cold temperatures. Cold which claimed the lives of thousands
:16:56. > :17:02.of elderly people. Jane is one of the Snow Angels, and she checks up
:17:03. > :17:09.on people to make sure they know how to keep warm. Roy has had heart
:17:10. > :17:12.problems, and last winter was tough. It was the coldest winter we have
:17:13. > :17:20.had for a long time and snow lasted for longer. It is 60 years at least
:17:21. > :17:26.since I had experienced anything approaching this. Roy keeps his
:17:27. > :17:32.spirits up in winter, and his heating, but not all pensioners do.
:17:33. > :17:38.It may be that they keep one room warm but others very cold, which can
:17:39. > :17:44.itself be very dangerous. People may end up sleeping in bedrooms which
:17:45. > :17:48.are too cold to be safe. Energy prices have been going up, leaving
:17:49. > :17:56.doctors worried about those in their 80s and 90s. Their bodies are not as
:17:57. > :18:00.good as they were to resist cold, and they become thick hymns of the
:18:01. > :18:07.energy price crisis that we have got, and the poverty of the poor
:18:08. > :18:13.pensions that they are on. -- they become victims. If you take a look
:18:14. > :18:17.at this graph, the longer term trend has been for winter deaths to fall.
:18:18. > :18:22.But in March the average temperature was just 2.6 Celsius, and very low
:18:23. > :18:31.temperatures are linked to more deaths. Health officials say there
:18:32. > :18:34.is help for the elderly in winter. We really understand the difficulty
:18:35. > :18:39.that it causes if people feel that they have to make a choice between
:18:40. > :18:42.spending money on heating and spending money on eating. Both of
:18:43. > :18:47.those are absolutely essential. Last winter also saw more deaths in
:18:48. > :18:51.Scotland and Northern Ireland. As it gets cold again, these figures can
:18:52. > :18:54.only fuel the debate about energy prices.
:18:55. > :18:59.Two unarmed American B-52 bombers have flown over disputed islands in
:19:00. > :19:02.the East China Sea in defiance of new Chinese air defence rules. China
:19:03. > :19:04.announced the air defence zone at the weekend following a territorial
:19:05. > :19:09.dispute over the islands between China and Japan. The US says the
:19:10. > :19:14.flight was part of a planned training exercise.
:19:15. > :19:19.A picture of the man accused of keeping three women as slaves in
:19:20. > :19:22.South London for more than 30 years has emerged for the first time. As
:19:23. > :19:24.police continue their investigation into Aravindan Balakrishnan and his
:19:25. > :19:29.wife Chanda, the BBC has been speaking to one of their former
:19:30. > :19:32.neighbours. She said that one woman would stand for hours at the window
:19:33. > :19:46.holding up notes, but she could never read them. Our home affairs
:19:47. > :19:50.correspondent, Tom Symonds, reports. Court on camera in a documentary
:19:51. > :19:54.from 1997. He was attending an inquest into the death of a woman
:19:55. > :19:59.who fell from the upstairs window of a house where he lived. The inquest
:20:00. > :20:07.failed to explain why, and today, Scotland Yard confirmed it was
:20:08. > :20:11.re-examining the case. It is believed that among the women living
:20:12. > :20:16.at the house were the three who called a charity last month,
:20:17. > :20:20.triggering the investigation. This set designer, Charlotta Watts, lived
:20:21. > :20:24.two doors down for more than a decade. She called Princes of the
:20:25. > :20:30.group and the images are still with her. They look honourable, they did
:20:31. > :20:34.not have any social skills whatsoever. They used to walk in a
:20:35. > :20:38.line and they never made any eye contact. I used to regularly say
:20:39. > :20:42.hello to them and they would either look through you all look away from
:20:43. > :20:45.you. She describes the occupants at the house, the Indian man who came
:20:46. > :20:52.to the door when she once called, three women, one Malaysian, a face
:20:53. > :20:58.in an upstairs window. They would stand up in that window for hours,
:20:59. > :21:01.staring, and I used to wave at her and never get anything back. And
:21:02. > :21:07.then I do remember her writing these notes, which she would sort of
:21:08. > :21:10.sliding front of her, but because it was so high up I could never read
:21:11. > :21:16.what they were saying. It is now known that the group later moved to
:21:17. > :21:18.this flat in Brixton, which was boarded up yesterday, where
:21:19. > :21:22.Aravindan Balakrishnan and his partner were arrested. They are on
:21:23. > :21:30.bail until January, as police enquiries continue. Celtic are out
:21:31. > :21:36.of the Champions League, having lost to AC Milan in Italy. Chelsea are
:21:37. > :21:39.through to the last 16 with a game to spare despite losing 1-0 to FC
:21:40. > :21:42.Basel. Arsenal beat Marseille 2-0, but they will have to wait until
:21:43. > :21:45.their final game to qualify, and Celtic are out losing 3-0 to AC
:21:46. > :21:53.Milan. Natalie Pirks rounds up the action. For Celtic, only a win in
:21:54. > :21:58.Milan would do. AC Milan are on a bad run but they boast some of
:21:59. > :22:04.Europe's finest, not least a former World Player of the Year. Just after
:22:05. > :22:09.half-time, Celtic mist this glorious chance. One minute later, Cristian
:22:10. > :22:17.Zapata doubled Milan's lead. Soon after, Mario Balotelli showed why
:22:18. > :22:21.they call him super. It was a bad night for Neil Lennon. Now, they do
:22:22. > :22:25.not even have the consolation of the Europa League. A win would not
:22:26. > :22:30.guarantee Arsenal qualification, but it would help. Fans did not have to
:22:31. > :22:35.wait long for Jack Wilshere to pounce. Mesut Ozil missed a penalty
:22:36. > :22:40.but made amends in the second half, helping Jack Wilshere to get another
:22:41. > :22:45.one. But Arsenal still need a result in a fortnight against Napoli. Basel
:22:46. > :22:50.had beaten Chelsea before, and gave them an early warning. Chelsea
:22:51. > :22:56.failed to register a single shot on target in the entire game, and Basel
:22:57. > :23:01.finally made them pay. Jose Mourinho's defence had gone to sleep
:23:02. > :23:02.but his luck was in. Other results meant tired Chelsea squeaked
:23:03. > :23:11.through, just. Back now to our main story - with
:23:12. > :23:13.ten months to go before next year's referendum, the Scottish Government
:23:14. > :23:17.has set out its vision of an independent country. Huw is in
:23:18. > :23:20.Edinburgh. The document published today lists some of the advantages
:23:21. > :23:24.of independence as the Scottish Government sees them. But the appeal
:23:25. > :23:28.is not simply about policy. Alex Salmond and his team are urging
:23:29. > :23:32.Scots to think of independence as a natural step. But what do Scots
:23:33. > :23:36.understand by building a modern Scottish identity? Our correspondent
:23:37. > :23:48.James Cook has been talking to people in the city of Dundee.
:23:49. > :23:54.The city skies are clear now, but once, Dundee roared with industry
:23:55. > :24:00.and echoed with radical ideas. Socialism thrived here. Today,
:24:01. > :24:06.though, this old Labour city is a stronghold for the Scottish National
:24:07. > :24:09.Party. The air is alive with change. Dundee is undergoing an
:24:10. > :24:13.extraordinary transformation. The whole of the waterfront is being
:24:14. > :24:17.redeveloped. It is an exciting time, and campaigners for independents
:24:18. > :24:20.want to tap into this sense of optimism, to persuade people to vote
:24:21. > :24:27.yes not out of fear, but out of hope. There is no shortage of hope
:24:28. > :24:30.at Dundee University. These physics students are full with energy and
:24:31. > :24:36.ideas, but will they vote with their heads or their hearts? At the start,
:24:37. > :24:39.when there were whispers about a possible referendum, a lot of people
:24:40. > :24:43.thought, I am Scottish, I am going to say yes, I am going to fight for
:24:44. > :24:47.my country, I am going to be patriotically but people are
:24:48. > :24:56.becoming a lot more tactical in the way they think about it. I would say
:24:57. > :25:00.it depends on what is best for Scotland, not white I think about
:25:01. > :25:04.being Scottish. It is not really chasing money. People are not going
:25:05. > :25:10.to trade away a 300 year partnership just for the price of an iPad. But
:25:11. > :25:15.does Dundee benefit from its British identity? It has certainly built
:25:16. > :25:23.hundreds of ships for the Empire. And these visitors think a shared
:25:24. > :25:27.history should count for something. This is an island, it is not mine,
:25:28. > :25:34.not yours, it is ours. You both need each other. You might as well stay
:25:35. > :25:38.in the UK with us. I think you would be better off in every way. Stay
:25:39. > :25:43.with us. Whether Scotland does or not is up to 4 million individuals.
:25:44. > :25:51.But this historian does not think identity will drive their decision.
:25:52. > :25:56.People outside of it is now coming down to issues of how you want that
:25:57. > :26:01.nation to be governed. But even if Scotland's identity is settled, it
:26:02. > :26:04.must still decide on the road, and the miles, it wants to travel. Our
:26:05. > :26:12.political editor, Nick Robinson, is here. Your impressions? I thought
:26:13. > :26:16.before coming that we might get some of the excitement of a new maternity
:26:17. > :26:20.ward, as we saw the birth of a new nation, the offspring of the United
:26:21. > :26:24.Kingdom. But what was striking I think was that Alex Salmond and his
:26:25. > :26:28.deputy were desperate not to look like beaming and proud parents,
:26:29. > :26:32.looking at what the future might look like. Instead, they were
:26:33. > :26:37.low-key, they were calm and measured, trying to look more like
:26:38. > :26:40.business executives involved in a corporate rebranding exercise. And I
:26:41. > :26:44.think that is for a good reason. Plenty of Scots have made their mind
:26:45. > :26:48.up either way, but there are many in the middle who have not. And this
:26:49. > :26:54.huge document I think was designed to say, don't worry about all of
:26:55. > :26:59.that constitutional stuff, there are answers in here. Mr Salmond believes
:27:00. > :27:04.the way to win the referendum is on those old election-winning issues,
:27:05. > :27:08.jobs and benefits, promises of childcare, not arguments about the
:27:09. > :27:12.euro. His opponents will try and drag him back, day after day,
:27:13. > :27:20.because that is where they think the campaign can be won. Thank you very
:27:21. > :27:23.much. There's plenty of extra information for you on the BBC
:27:24. > :27:24.website. That's all from the team in