:00:10. > :00:16.Tens of thousands gathered to remember the life of Nelson Mandela.
:00:17. > :00:22.A more real service in Soweto. -- Memorial. They braved the rain to
:00:23. > :00:28.celebrate the achievements of the man who fought for their freedom.
:00:29. > :00:31.Nearly 100 world leaders travelled to South Africa to pay tribute to a
:00:32. > :00:41.statesman like no other. Nothing he achieved was inevitable. In the arc
:00:42. > :00:44.of his life we see a man who earned his place in history through
:00:45. > :00:51.struggle, and shrewdness and persistence, and faith. A day for
:00:52. > :00:55.reaching out to old enemies as the President of America and Cuba shake
:00:56. > :00:59.hands. And capturing moment themselves. And the other main
:01:00. > :01:02.stories on BBC News at Ten. Jailed for four years. The founder of the
:01:03. > :01:07.French company which made defective breast implants is found guilty of
:01:08. > :01:11.fraud. The French president mourns the loss of two soldiers. The latest
:01:12. > :01:16.victims of violence in the Central African Republic. And insurance
:01:17. > :01:18.companies and pension providers are heavily criticised for confusing
:01:19. > :01:29.customers and charging high commissions.
:01:30. > :01:32.Coming up in sports day on BBC News, action from tonight group matches in
:01:33. > :01:35.the Champions League. All eyes on David Moyes at Old Trafford. United
:01:36. > :01:58.desperate for a win at home. Good evening from Pretoria, where
:01:59. > :02:02.Nelson Mandela's body will lie in state for three days starting early
:02:03. > :02:06.tomorrow morning. Today there's been a memorial service in Soweto. Tens
:02:07. > :02:09.of thousands of South Africans attended a four hour celebration of
:02:10. > :02:15.Nelson Mandela's life despite being lashed by the rain throughout.
:02:16. > :02:18.Barack Obama was one of about 100 world leaders to attend the service.
:02:19. > :02:24.He described Nelson Mandela as a giant of justice. The day was a
:02:25. > :02:26.mixture of the political and the personal with speeches from old
:02:27. > :02:32.comrades in the fight against apartheid and eulogies from Nelson
:02:33. > :02:33.Mandela's grandchildren. Our correspondent Andrew Harding was
:02:34. > :02:49.there. 5am on a cold morning. And the
:02:50. > :02:54.dancing is already begun. At the front of the queue, they have been
:02:55. > :03:00.waiting half the night. I can't say in simple words how I feel. I'm over
:03:01. > :03:02.the moon. A forecast of rain has prompted some elegant designs. They
:03:03. > :03:23.look very fashionable. Thank you. Inside the World Cup stadium, old
:03:24. > :03:27.liberation songs. And vuvuzelas. The soundtrack to this country's
:03:28. > :03:30.tumultuous history. Nelson Mandela means different things to different
:03:31. > :03:42.people here, even those born after democracy arrived. Everyone coming
:03:43. > :03:48.together, yes. For one man. Other fiery activist celebrate the
:03:49. > :03:50.militant who launched a strike. The generation of today, and the
:03:51. > :04:00.circumstances of the country, we need the rabble callousness --
:04:01. > :04:02.radical must of Mandela. It's like a family gathering but it's striking
:04:03. > :04:14.how many people actually met the man. You think you are in the
:04:15. > :04:18.presence of God, and yet he looks at you like you are God, and that was
:04:19. > :04:27.the most fantastic thing. Then the famous arrived. I warm embrace for
:04:28. > :04:31.Winnie Mandela and his widow Graca Machel, and then other icons from
:04:32. > :04:38.Africa's liberation struggle including some controversially slim
:04:39. > :04:44.power. -- still in power. In all, more than 100 world leaders, present
:04:45. > :04:50.and past. Tony Blair, to FW de Klerk, South Africa's last apartheid
:04:51. > :04:56.leader. Denmark's Prime Minister poses with some colleagues. The
:04:57. > :05:00.relaxed atmosphere, then extending to this historic handshake between
:05:01. > :05:09.leaders of Cuba and the USA. Mandela would have approved. As a roar of
:05:10. > :05:15.approval for a kebab, but South Africa's current leader Jacob Zuma
:05:16. > :05:21.can I ask for discipline, please? Also some celebrities who came to
:05:22. > :05:26.know Nelson Mandela in his later years. Rain at a funeral is seen as
:05:27. > :05:32.a blessing in South Africa. And, times, the blessings bucket down,
:05:33. > :05:37.keeping parts of the stadium stubbornly empty. Then come the
:05:38. > :05:44.speeches. When sadness and celebrations come... Poetry from
:05:45. > :05:54.Mandela's grandchildren. An old friend chiding the ground. I want to
:05:55. > :06:01.hear a pin drop. One man who captures the mood best. It was
:06:02. > :06:07.precisely because he could admit to imperfection. Because he could be so
:06:08. > :06:13.full of good humour. Even mischief. Despite the heavy burdens he
:06:14. > :06:18.carried. That we loved him so. But what to do with that love now? There
:06:19. > :06:23.are too many leaders who claim solidarity with Madiba's struggle
:06:24. > :06:28.for freedom but do not tolerate dissent from their own people. And
:06:29. > :06:36.there are too many of us, too many of us on the sidelines comfortable
:06:37. > :06:42.and complacent and cynical. He goes down well but the stadium never
:06:43. > :06:46.quite fills and, besides, this isn't the message they had come for. In
:06:47. > :06:52.the crowd, you get the sense of speeches, the foreign dignitaries,
:06:53. > :06:56.are almost aside the point. Nelson Mandela's funeral on Sunday is going
:06:57. > :07:02.to be a small private affair, so today really is the People's chance
:07:03. > :07:06.say goodbye. It's a date for the people in the world today. The
:07:07. > :07:14.billion that will go to bed hungry. The oppressed. Those whose human
:07:15. > :07:20.rights are violated, Mandela was a symbol for them. More than any
:07:21. > :07:24.leaders. We commend his cell... It has been an emotional day here. A
:07:25. > :07:36.damp but soulful sendoff. That stadium you have just seen what
:07:37. > :07:41.the place where Nelson Mandela made a major speech when he was freed
:07:42. > :07:45.back in 1990. Then, too, tens of thousands of people turned up. In
:07:46. > :07:49.the crowd that historic day was a young couple. Today they return to
:07:50. > :07:53.the stadium for the memorial service. Our South Africa
:07:54. > :07:58.correspondent Nomsa Maseko has spent the day with them. Give the enemies
:07:59. > :08:03.of peace and liberty is no space to take us back to the howl of
:08:04. > :08:12.apartheid. Remembering the day they saw their hero speak. Former ANC
:08:13. > :08:16.soldier and his wife were there the day after Nelson Mandela was
:08:17. > :08:25.released from prison 23 years ago. I stated in 1964 that I and the ANC
:08:26. > :08:32.are as opposed to black domination as we are to white domination. You
:08:33. > :08:35.say you were sitting on the side? What was going through your mind at
:08:36. > :08:40.that time when you saw Mandela walking into the stadium? When
:08:41. > :08:50.Mandela was walking through towards the stadium, I just pulled out my
:08:51. > :09:06.pistol and shot 20 bullets in the air. I felt like crying. Africa.
:09:07. > :09:12.Africa. I wanted to see Mandela. When I came to the city, I told
:09:13. > :09:18.myself I'm going to the stadium to see Mandela. He came to the stadium.
:09:19. > :09:27.I was very happy. People were waving their hands like this. Mandela,
:09:28. > :09:33.Mandela, Mandela. It was very nice. And today, they joined Presidents,
:09:34. > :09:36.prime ministers and the world painted beauty Nelson Mandela.
:09:37. > :09:44.Returning to the stadium where they had seen him speak all those years
:09:45. > :09:49.ago. For thousands of people here, it's important that so many world
:09:50. > :09:54.leaders are here to honour Nelson Mandela. It's about pride. And pride
:09:55. > :10:00.is one of the things the mandate called Madiba gave them. Everybody
:10:01. > :10:08.is very pleased. 1990, when Mandela was out. They came to remember the
:10:09. > :10:20.man who gave them their nation. How could they possibly forget him?
:10:21. > :10:29.Andrew is with me now. I was in the stadium today and it seemed strange
:10:30. > :10:34.that Barack Obama's speed was the most emotional bond there. He nailed
:10:35. > :10:39.it in a way nobody else would he did and I suppose it was a choice of
:10:40. > :10:45.speakers. If you are looking to some of Mandela's life, his character, it
:10:46. > :10:47.is odd, at least to choose the vice president of China, and the
:10:48. > :10:52.President of Brazil, it seemed more like a group selected by government
:10:53. > :10:57.committee is looking to really spell out South Africa's geopolitical
:10:58. > :11:01.agenda. How embarrassing public current President Jacob Zuma should
:11:02. > :11:05.be booed like that. Strange, some people will take offence but that is
:11:06. > :11:09.a very raucous political culture, with elections coming up. The ruling
:11:10. > :11:14.party, the ANC, after 20 years, in power, is looking a little tired and
:11:15. > :11:19.Jacob Zuma himself, remember, is a controversial figure. He's always
:11:20. > :11:21.headlines, often for corruption allegations, because of personal
:11:22. > :11:24.life and recently because of allegations spent millions of pounds
:11:25. > :11:30.of state money upgrading its own home. Andrew, thanks very much. I
:11:31. > :11:36.will be back later in the programme but for now, it's back to you.
:11:37. > :11:39.Thanks very much. Let's have a look at some of the date at the news now.
:11:40. > :11:42.The founder of a French company that made faulty breast implants sold to
:11:43. > :11:45.30,000 women around the world has been found guilty of fraud.
:11:46. > :11:48.Jean-Claude Mas was sentenced to four years in prison by a court in
:11:49. > :11:51.Marseille and fined 75,000 euros. Hundreds of his victims had gathered
:11:52. > :11:53.at the court, including some of the British women whose implants
:11:54. > :11:56.ruptured because of substandard materials. This report by our
:11:57. > :12:07.correspondent Christian Fraser contains some flash photography. For
:12:08. > :12:09.13 years, they cheated the system. And some 50,000 British women with
:12:10. > :12:16.fitted with their substandard implants. Today, the founder of the
:12:17. > :12:20.French company Jean-Claude Mas and three senior executives were finally
:12:21. > :12:23.made to pay. The 74-year-old built his company into the third biggest
:12:24. > :12:29.global supplier. When arrested, he was living in a sumptuous villa on
:12:30. > :12:32.the French Riviera. Yet, during the trial, he claimed it was a
:12:33. > :12:40.struggling pensioner living on ?1200 a month. This woman is a plaintiff
:12:41. > :12:44.in the case and is anxious. After laugh scything dashed life-saving
:12:45. > :12:50.cancer surgery in 2002, she was forced to have a ruptured PIP
:12:51. > :12:56.implant removed. Today she has lumped all over her body doctors are
:12:57. > :12:59.trying to diagnose. It starts here, criminal trial, and is not
:13:00. > :13:03.considered a crime in the UK and that's really important. I think it
:13:04. > :13:08.sends a message to the British that we are victims of crime. In 2011,
:13:09. > :13:14.the French health ministers would pay for women to have the implants
:13:15. > :13:16.removed. 17,000 came forward. But in the UK, where the Department of
:13:17. > :13:24.Health has conducted a further review, this has been the advice.
:13:25. > :13:27.The implants are not carcinogenic. PIP empires have doubled the rupture
:13:28. > :13:32.rate but aside from local reactions such as swollen lymph glands and
:13:33. > :13:35.tenderness, they are not fit to be any long-term health problems. Today
:13:36. > :13:43.the government and hope this verdict would give British victims a sense
:13:44. > :13:48.of justice. The abandoned factory I visited last year was littered with
:13:49. > :13:51.discarded implants. The court heard they were manufactured with an
:13:52. > :13:54.industrial silicon more commonly used for mattresses and seven times
:13:55. > :13:58.more cheaper than the authorised gel. Prosecutors said the man in
:13:59. > :14:03.charge of quality control and only a cooking diploma. Mr Mas sat
:14:04. > :14:07.impassively on the front bench, shielded from public view by his
:14:08. > :14:11.lawyers, who stood throughout, but he could not hide altogether. The
:14:12. > :14:14.judge read out the names of scores of victims, women who we had
:14:15. > :14:19.dismissed in police interviews as psychologically fragile. The
:14:20. > :14:24.sentence - four years together with a 75,000 euros fine. Small
:14:25. > :14:29.satisfaction for the victims, but in mind of the widespread suffering and
:14:30. > :14:36.pain, a sentence that might seem unjustly lenient.
:14:37. > :14:40.A specialist liver surgeon based at the University Hospital of Wales in
:14:41. > :14:44.Cardiff has been suspended. A professional review of David
:14:45. > :14:47.Berry's caseload found eight avoidable deaths following surgery.
:14:48. > :14:50.The university health board has issued a unreserved apologies to
:14:51. > :14:53.every family affected. Our correspondent Hywel Griffith is at
:14:54. > :14:58.the hospital in Cardiff tonight, tell us more about this.
:14:59. > :15:02.David Berry was an experienced surgeon who had worked here for
:15:03. > :15:05.around 18 months before there were concerns and complaints reaching the
:15:06. > :15:09.hospital about his work. He was suspended, we understand, in January
:15:10. > :15:14.of this year. A full review of his work revealed that ten of us
:15:15. > :15:17.patients had died, and of the ten eight would have been avoidable. In
:15:18. > :15:21.medical terms, that means that if different decisions had been made
:15:22. > :15:26.either before, during or after surgery, other doctors believe the
:15:27. > :15:30.patients would have lived. The families involved were only informed
:15:31. > :15:34.in September, I understand, but the case today became public after one
:15:35. > :15:37.of the families came forward, the family of a 66-year-old cancer
:15:38. > :15:41.patient who, a few days after surgery, severed organ failure. The
:15:42. > :15:45.hospital tell us they are confident there are no risks to current
:15:46. > :15:48.patients. Tomorrow they will open a helpline for families who may have
:15:49. > :15:53.been involved. Thank you very much, Hywel Griffith
:15:54. > :15:56.in Cardiff. Resident Hollande of France has visited the Central
:15:57. > :15:59.African Republic for talks with the transitional leadership as the
:16:00. > :16:04.violence escalates and more lives are lost. Some 1600 French troops
:16:05. > :16:07.are now deployed in the country, trying to disarm militia groups who
:16:08. > :16:11.have been fighting since a Muslim faction seized power back in March.
:16:12. > :16:15.Two French soldiers were killed in the capital last night. It is not
:16:16. > :16:19.known how many people have been killed by Muslim and Christian
:16:20. > :16:22.fighters in the recent months. Thomas Fessy reports now from
:16:23. > :16:27.Bossangoa, where the tensions are getting worse.
:16:28. > :16:33.The face of a UN backed international force in the Central
:16:34. > :16:40.African Republic, the French army has deployed here for a second
:16:41. > :16:47.campaign on the continent this year. They were sent here to stop this,
:16:48. > :16:50.bands of ill organised former rebels and civilians taking on each other
:16:51. > :16:58.in an president did intercommunal clashes. -- unprecedented. Francois
:16:59. > :17:02.Hollande made a quick stop tonight. His forces have suffered the first
:17:03. > :17:08.casualties, two paratroopers. The French have made and unmade regimes
:17:09. > :17:12.in this country, their former colony, but President Hollande has
:17:13. > :17:16.insisted this intervention is to prevent the worst from happening.
:17:17. > :17:25.TRANSLATION: It is dangerous, we know that, but it is necessary if we
:17:26. > :17:29.want to avoid carnage here. These African peacekeepers will not
:17:30. > :17:33.be holding out on their own anymore. The French are welcome
:17:34. > :17:41.reinforcements to forcibly disarm militias. The hunt is on.
:17:42. > :17:48.In the northern town of Bossangoa, residents are confined to separate
:17:49. > :17:52.camps. This country has had a history of rebellions and bad
:17:53. > :18:00.governance, but it has now slipped into a cycle of retaliatory
:18:01. > :18:03.religious violence --. The French have brought some relief year, but
:18:04. > :18:08.it will not bring these communities back together any time soon. A sign
:18:09. > :18:14.of hope, we found Christian families amongst the Muslim displaced.
:18:15. > :18:18.TRANSLATION: We always lived together, my husband was a Muslim,
:18:19. > :18:21.and a Muslim neighbour helped me reach this camp when I was trying to
:18:22. > :18:25.escape the fighting last week. Now that I am here, they are taking care
:18:26. > :18:30.of me, I do not understand how we have come to this situation. Is it
:18:31. > :18:37.too late to make sense of what is happening? Many say trust and links
:18:38. > :18:42.have been broken. This man tells me communities will never live in
:18:43. > :18:45.harmony ever again. This country never really was a functioning
:18:46. > :18:48.state. The urgency to stop the violence is real before it is
:18:49. > :19:00.entirely torn apart. The man in charge of a fireworks
:19:01. > :19:04.display on the night of a motorway crash in which seven people died has
:19:05. > :19:07.been cleared of breaching health and safety laws. Geoffrey Counsell had
:19:08. > :19:11.been accused of allowing firework smoke to drift across an already
:19:12. > :19:16.foggy section of the M5 shortly before the pilot in November of
:19:17. > :19:20.2011. The judge at Bristol Crown Court today ruled that he had no
:19:21. > :19:23.case to answer. The first same-sex weddings in
:19:24. > :19:26.England and Wales can take place from the 29th of March last year,
:19:27. > :19:30.earlier than planned. Couples will be able to marry in civil ceremonies
:19:31. > :19:33.and in services with religious bodies that agree to it, and that
:19:34. > :19:36.excludes the Church of England, which is barred from conducting the
:19:37. > :19:42.ceremonies. Now, some insurance companies and
:19:43. > :19:44.pension providers have been heavily criticised in a report by the
:19:45. > :19:48.Financial Services Consumer Panel. They say the firms confuse customers
:19:49. > :19:52.and charge high commissions, particularly when it comes to the
:19:53. > :19:56.sale of annuities to provide an income from pension savings. The
:19:57. > :20:00.panel says the revelation must be tightened to protect consumers from
:20:01. > :20:02.unfair practices, as personal finance correspondent Simon Gompertz
:20:03. > :20:08.explains. Every year, 400,000 people choose
:20:09. > :20:14.pension annuities, like bad chip shop owners Margaret and Michael
:20:15. > :20:18.would like to soon. -- Bach. The annuities are guaranteed incomes for
:20:19. > :20:21.life board with a part of pension money saved while working. They are
:20:22. > :20:27.fearful that the one they get dished up will not be enough to retire on.
:20:28. > :20:31.We have been offered a pension each of ?20 per week, and I don't know
:20:32. > :20:34.where we go, which is why we have not taken it, it is two and a half
:20:35. > :20:38.years since we could have taken it out but we have not met you at it.
:20:39. > :20:44.We don't know what to do. Today's report shows that one decision,
:20:45. > :20:49.which annuity to get, can blight a whole retirement. Let's say you have
:20:50. > :20:55.a pot of ?100,000, you could lose 40,000 quid of that part just by
:20:56. > :20:59.making the wrong choice at the wrong time and going to the wrong firm.
:21:00. > :21:03.People buying an annuity between a rock and a hard place. Half of them
:21:04. > :21:07.just get it from the insurance company they saved with, and they
:21:08. > :21:12.end up with 25% less, typically, than they should. The rest shop
:21:13. > :21:18.around, some do well, but you can be ambushed with high charges of as
:21:19. > :21:24.much as 6% of the pension, and this is a make or break decision. The
:21:25. > :21:28.point with annuities is that it is a unique financial product. Once you
:21:29. > :21:33.have bought it, you can never change it. It is unlike any other decision
:21:34. > :21:38.that he will make, for example if you buy the wrong house, you can
:21:39. > :21:42.change it. The Treasury says the financial regulator, the FCA, is
:21:43. > :21:46.reviewing whether pensioners are taking a hit from the wrong annuity
:21:47. > :21:51.decisions. Insurers insist they offer a fair deal. There is no
:21:52. > :21:55.evidence in this report that they are making excessive profits. But
:21:56. > :21:58.there is evidence that customers do need help and guidance when making
:21:59. > :22:03.decisions about their income in retirement. The consumer panel is
:22:04. > :22:06.demanding a full investigation, and it wants people like Michael and
:22:07. > :22:13.Margaret, with small pension pots, to be allowed to take all the money
:22:14. > :22:18.simply as cash when they retire. Now, David Cameron is being urged to
:22:19. > :22:22.commit far more government resources to tackling dementia. The Prime
:22:23. > :22:24.Minister is preparing to host an international conference starting
:22:25. > :22:28.tomorrow involving health ministers from the major G8 economies. There
:22:29. > :22:31.is an increasing view that a global plan is needed to deal with the
:22:32. > :22:35.problem that is affecting tens of millions of people throughout the
:22:36. > :22:40.world. Globally, one person is diagnosed with a form of dementia
:22:41. > :22:44.every four seconds. However, no new treatment for the condition has been
:22:45. > :22:48.found in the past decade, and in the UK the Government has promised to
:22:49. > :22:53.increase spending on research to ?66 million by 2015, still a fraction of
:22:54. > :22:55.the amount that will be spent on cancer research every year. Medical
:22:56. > :23:00.correspondent Fergus Walsh has more details.
:23:01. > :23:05.Robbing the mind and ravaging the brain, never before has there been
:23:06. > :23:11.such a spotlight on dementia. Jeff Payne has Alzheimer's. The disease
:23:12. > :23:16.is still in its early stages. This test is checking his fading
:23:17. > :23:21.short-term memory. His brother died of dementia, and he and his wife
:23:22. > :23:28.have no illusions about what the future holds. I am in denial,
:23:29. > :23:30.actually! We have not been dwelling on the future, other than
:23:31. > :23:37.recognising things will not get better. We have a fairly vivid
:23:38. > :23:41.impression of the state I will reach in a few years' time. Dementia is an
:23:42. > :23:46.umbrella term for a range of diseases affecting the brain. By far
:23:47. > :23:48.the most common is Alzheimer's, a build-up of abnormal proteins
:23:49. > :23:53.leading to nerve cell death throughout the brain. Over time, it
:23:54. > :23:58.shrinks thematically, affecting nearly all its functions. The
:23:59. > :24:03.symptoms include memory last, mood changes, reasoning and communication
:24:04. > :24:08.problems. Drugs can ease some symptoms, but there is no cure. Now,
:24:09. > :24:12.in the UK, the number of people with dementia is set to double in the
:24:13. > :24:20.next 40 years from around 800,000 now to an estimated 1.7 by 2050.
:24:21. > :24:26.Over the same period, the global total is expected to travel from 44
:24:27. > :24:31.million up to 135 million by 2050. The global cost of dementia is at
:24:32. > :24:38.least $600 billion per year. There are fears that future demands could
:24:39. > :24:43.overwhelm health services. New treatments are urgently needed. Jeff
:24:44. > :24:50.Payne is one of 200 patients testing a diabetes drug, injected once a
:24:51. > :24:54.day, which lab tests Digest or slow the progression of Alzheimer's. --
:24:55. > :24:58.suggest. One third of people over the age of 60 are likely to get
:24:59. > :25:04.dementia or Alzheimer's disease. However, if we were to look at the
:25:05. > :25:10.funding available for research into Alzheimer's disease, it is eight
:25:11. > :25:14.times less than what we get for cancer. At the G8 Summit, more cash
:25:15. > :25:19.will be pledged for dementia research, though it will still be
:25:20. > :25:23.well short of that spent on cancer. The buzzword will be collaboration,
:25:24. > :25:28.on a global scale between researchers, drug companies and
:25:29. > :25:36.governments, to push for elusive new treatments to fight dementia.
:25:37. > :25:39.More now on tonight's main story, the national memorial service in
:25:40. > :25:45.South Africa for Nelson Mandela, let's joined George in Pretoria.
:25:46. > :25:49.Banks, Huw, and welcome back on what has been a day for remembering
:25:50. > :25:54.Nelson Mandela's extraordinary achievements.
:25:55. > :25:59.Tens of thousands of South Africans braved the pouring rain to attend a
:26:00. > :26:02.memorial service at the FNB Stadium in Soweto. They joined Nelson
:26:03. > :26:07.Mandela's family in mourning his passing. There were dozens of world
:26:08. > :26:11.leaders, past and present, who came to pay tribute to the former
:26:12. > :26:16.president. And it led to some unlikely moments of diplomacy, like
:26:17. > :26:19.the handshake between President Obama and his Cuban counterpart.
:26:20. > :26:23.There were guests also from the world of entertainment and fashion.
:26:24. > :26:27.And there was even time for images like this, as David Cameron and
:26:28. > :26:34.Barack Obama posed for a picture with Denmark's Prime Minister.
:26:35. > :26:38.I am joined now by world affairs editor John Simpson. John, today was
:26:39. > :26:42.a day for a membrane Nelson Mandela, but also a chance for this country
:26:43. > :26:48.to take stock, to see if it has lived up to the ideals set by Nelson
:26:49. > :26:52.Mandela. -- for remembering. I cannot think, I was racking my
:26:53. > :26:58.brains to think of another world leader whose death would attract 100
:26:59. > :27:04.or so otherworldly Des. I can't think of anybody, frankly. -- other
:27:05. > :27:07.world leaders. That is a measure of his greatness, they all want a
:27:08. > :27:12.little bit of that greatness for themselves, that is why they were
:27:13. > :27:16.here. But will his legacy be followed up by anybody? I thought in
:27:17. > :27:21.that magnificent speech that Barack Obama gave, I have never heard him
:27:22. > :27:25.give a better speech, there was that moment when he challenged them all
:27:26. > :27:30.the there, not just to come and praise Mandela, but to follow him,
:27:31. > :27:34.to do what he had done. And, you know, it ain't going happen! It is
:27:35. > :27:39.not going to be the pattern of the future that everybody starts
:27:40. > :27:43.forgiving other people and following along with the Mandela line, that is
:27:44. > :27:48.not going to happen. The other thing, I think, is the position of
:27:49. > :27:58.South Africa itself. The main speakers were the Chinese, the
:27:59. > :28:05.Indians, and so one, they were not western countries. Nelson Mandela's
:28:06. > :28:06.view was wider than that. All right, John, thank you. That is all from us