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:00:14. > :00:16.The battle lines are drawn - the EU referendum campaign gets

:00:17. > :00:20.Politicians from both sides vie to get their message across to stay

:00:21. > :00:25.This is the launch of a campaign for freedom, and it's

:00:26. > :00:28.a chance for us to believe in ourselves again.

:00:29. > :00:31.Prices will go up and there will be instability in the financial

:00:32. > :00:34.markets, and what that means for families is that mortgage rates

:00:35. > :00:39.Already on day one there has been strong disagreement between both

:00:40. > :00:41.sides and accusations of fear-mongering.

:00:42. > :00:47.Five people from Birmingham are arrested on suspicion of terrorism.

:00:48. > :00:49.They're the first UK arrests connected with the investigation

:00:50. > :00:56.Rescuing the increasing number of migrants trying

:00:57. > :01:01.to teach Europe from Libya - but is it making the problem worse?

:01:02. > :01:05.There is criticism that this military operation has made

:01:06. > :01:11.That it's become a kind of collection service

:01:12. > :01:17.The new law in a US state which has sparked accusations of bigotry

:01:18. > :01:22.and protests from companies and rock stars.

:01:23. > :01:25.And the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge set off on a three-hour

:01:26. > :01:31.trek to reach Bhutan's holiest and highest site.

:01:32. > :01:33.Coming up in Sportsday on BBC News: Manchester City have drawn

:01:34. > :01:36.Real Madrid in the Champions League semifinals, while Liverpool

:01:37. > :02:00.face Villarreal in the Europa League last four.

:02:01. > :02:04.The starting gun has been fired, politicians have hit the airwaves

:02:05. > :02:07.and the road as the first day of official campaigning in the EU

:02:08. > :02:12.Both sides have been putting their case and there's been

:02:13. > :02:15.vigorous disagreement from concerns that mortgages might go up

:02:16. > :02:18.if we don't stay in the EU, to how spending on the NHS would go

:02:19. > :02:22.Our political editor, Laura Kuenssberg, has been

:02:23. > :02:24.following the claim and counterclaim.

:02:25. > :02:30.A warning - her report contains flash photography.

:02:31. > :02:33.Revving up the crowds - or small, polite audiences.

:02:34. > :02:48.Both sides are banging on doors and they

:02:49. > :02:54.And tonight, in Manchester, the biggest star -

:02:55. > :02:56.well, political star - trying to persuade you

:02:57. > :03:01.This is the launch of a campaign for freedom.

:03:02. > :03:03.As you would expect, there were gags aplenty.

:03:04. > :03:05.But if you want out, he says this is the

:03:06. > :03:12.Because if we fail to make the change now,

:03:13. > :03:17.then we will continue to be like passengers

:03:18. > :03:23.minicab, with a wonky sat-nav, driven by a driver who doesn't have

:03:24. > :03:26.perfect command of English and going in a direction we, frankly, don't

:03:27. > :03:31.Their first big claim, that ?350 million we send to the EU

:03:32. > :03:34.can just instead be spent on the NHS, isn't quite that

:03:35. > :03:38.Much of that cash actually comes back to be spent in

:03:39. > :03:41.the UK anyway come on agriculture and research.

:03:42. > :03:46.You know very well some of the ?350 million, much of

:03:47. > :03:51.Do you really want to start this campaign not being completely

:03:52. > :03:59.Come on. is very clear. The

:04:00. > :04:05.Come on. relates to the gross figure that

:04:06. > :04:12.goes every week to Brussels. Obviously, about ?10 billion of that

:04:13. > :04:15.comes back spent in the UK by EU officials in Brussels, deciding what

:04:16. > :04:17.our priorities should be, which seems to me to be absurd, we would

:04:18. > :04:21.be much better spending our own seems to me to be absurd, we would

:04:22. > :04:26.money ourselves in the UK on the Northern Powerhouse, on science, on

:04:27. > :04:31.the NHS. There is a further ?10 billion a year that we never see

:04:32. > :04:35.again in any form. For this crowd at least, the start of all of this is

:04:36. > :04:40.the start of something big. It is going to be very exciting,

:04:41. > :04:46.especially if we get guys like us in it! This is a massive decision. We

:04:47. > :04:49.are not very far away from it. It seems a bit late. I have been

:04:50. > :04:56.looking forward to it for a long time. I wanted to see Boris! Today

:04:57. > :05:01.the Catholic Church joined the chorus of established voices urging

:05:02. > :05:04.you to stay. We should seek the unities that bind our common

:05:05. > :05:11.humanity, we do that between churches and we should do it between

:05:12. > :05:15.nations. The former Chancellor, Alistair Darling, gave a sombre

:05:16. > :05:20.warning, claiming the dream of the Leave camp that we could prosper

:05:21. > :05:24.outside of the EU is a nightmare. They are offering a fantasy future

:05:25. > :05:27.where we keep all the benefits of Europe without being part of the

:05:28. > :05:34.single market. It is Project Fantasy. All political campaigns

:05:35. > :05:37.need energy and this side has got bags of that. They are lining up

:05:38. > :05:42.against some of the most senior figures in the British Government

:05:43. > :05:45.and some of the biggest names and most influential organisations from

:05:46. > :05:48.all round the world. One Cabinet Minister who wants to leave told

:05:49. > :05:52.all round the world. One Cabinet they are definitely in with a shout.

:05:53. > :05:56.For those arguing to leave the EU, the next couple of months aren't

:05:57. > :06:01.going to be easy. It is not quite David versus Goliath, but those

:06:02. > :06:04.pushing to leave are relative outsiders. Yes, even him. With the

:06:05. > :06:09.announcement by chance outsiders. Yes, even him. With the

:06:10. > :06:13.here in ten weeks' time, it is in this city our future as a country

:06:14. > :06:16.will be revealed. Laura Kuenssberg, BBC News, Manchester.

:06:17. > :06:19.The Chancellor has warned that mortgage rates could go up if the UK

:06:20. > :06:23.Speaking in Washington at a meeting of the International Monetary Fund,

:06:24. > :06:25.George Osborne said the view from international finance ministers

:06:26. > :06:29.there was that a vote to leave would be a major shock to the world

:06:30. > :06:32.economy, leading to instability and rising interest rates.

:06:33. > :06:35.Vote Leave accused the Chancellor of intimidating the British public

:06:36. > :06:38.Our economics editor, Kamal Ahmed, reports

:06:39. > :06:50.unravelling, delays on steel, which brought criticism. The Panama

:06:51. > :06:54.Papers, which caused the brought criticism. The Panama

:06:55. > :06:57.Minister some discomfort. But whatever the problems at home, the

:06:58. > :07:02.Chancellor in Washington only wants to talk about one thing - the risks

:07:03. > :07:07.of leaving the European Union. I think the British people can see

:07:08. > :07:10.that for all the ding dong of British politics you see a

:07:11. > :07:13.Conservative Government working with the Labour Party, trade unions and

:07:14. > :07:18.businesses working together, you have got all of these people setting

:07:19. > :07:23.aside the day-to-day political fight to say to the British people, this

:07:24. > :07:28.decision on the EU lasts for a generation or more, don't get it

:07:29. > :07:32.wrong. Getting it wrong could even have an effect on people's

:07:33. > :07:36.mortgages. The overwhelming view of the experts here in Washington is

:07:37. > :07:41.that if Britain leaves the EU, prices would go up, and there would

:07:42. > :07:45.be instability in financial markets. It is likely that mortgage rates

:07:46. > :07:50.would go up, families would pay the price for Britain leaving the EU.

:07:51. > :07:54.Finance ministers from around the world joined this gloomy chorus with

:07:55. > :07:58.the 20 richest nations saying Britain leaving the EU would be a

:07:59. > :08:02.shock. I asked the Chancellor's US equivalent what was the view from

:08:03. > :08:07.America. The United States and the United Kingdom have a long and

:08:08. > :08:11.special relationship and we value that and the United Kingdom is an

:08:12. > :08:16.important part of the European Union. This is obviously a decision

:08:17. > :08:21.for the British people to make, but we do believe that a strong Europe

:08:22. > :08:24.with the UK as part of it is good for Europe, it is good for the UK

:08:25. > :08:30.and it is good for the global economy. In the rather rarefied

:08:31. > :08:34.world of the International Monetary Fund, the risks of Britain leaving

:08:35. > :08:38.the European Union are clear. And George Osborne is telling everyone

:08:39. > :08:44.as loudly as he can what he believes those risks are. But the thing about

:08:45. > :08:50.economics, it is often disputed and there are plenty of economists who

:08:51. > :08:53.simply do not agree with the cataclysmic warnings. I don't think

:08:54. > :08:57.it is very plausible that mortgages will rise any faster if we leave the

:08:58. > :09:02.EU than if we stay. Most economists think that if we leave the EU, that

:09:03. > :09:06.would lead to interest rates rising later. As to the views of

:09:07. > :09:13.international finance ministers, it is hardly surprising if they have

:09:14. > :09:16.made plans on the basis of the UK remaining, they would prefer the UK

:09:17. > :09:19.remain. I don't think you should take seriously the idea that what is

:09:20. > :09:27.inconvenient for them might not be best for us. As the warnings roll in

:09:28. > :09:31.from America, the Chancellor, the whole pro-EU campaign, has been

:09:32. > :09:37.accused of panicking, using fear to scare the public. Mr Osborne says

:09:38. > :09:40.all he is doing is reflecting the depth of anxiety amongst the world's

:09:41. > :09:43.financial experts. Kamal Ahmed, BBC News, Washington.

:09:44. > :09:46.And you can take a comprehensive look at all the arguments on both

:09:47. > :09:52.side of the referendum debate on our website at bbc.co.uk/news.

:09:53. > :09:54.Five people have been arrested in Birmingham and at Gatwick Airport

:09:55. > :09:57.on suspicion of terrorism in connection with the terror

:09:58. > :10:03.Whitehall officials have described the arrests as "significant".

:10:04. > :10:05.Our home affairs correspondent, Daniel Sandford, is in Birmingham

:10:06. > :10:09.Daniel, officials also saying there's no suggestion of an imminent

:10:10. > :10:20.At one point today, a bomb disposal van was called to a house here in

:10:21. > :10:24.Birmingham, though it turns out to be a short-term scare. Still,

:10:25. > :10:28.tonight, five people are in custody in the West Midlands being

:10:29. > :10:33.questioned on suspicion of preparing acts of terrorism, the first arrests

:10:34. > :10:35.in the UK from an investigation arising out of the Paris and

:10:36. > :10:37.Brussels attacks. At this house, in the Small Heath

:10:38. > :10:40.area of Birmingham, a bomb disposal van was briefly deployed today

:10:41. > :10:42.when a suspicious It was part of an operation that

:10:43. > :10:47.began late last night when West Midlands Counter-Terrorism

:10:48. > :10:51.detectives arrested four people in the city, three men aged 26,

:10:52. > :10:58.40 and 59, and a woman aged 29. Though neighbours at the Small Heath

:10:59. > :11:01.house thought it unlikely the man living there

:11:02. > :11:03.was involved in terrorism. There is no way at all that I can

:11:04. > :11:06.believe he's an organiser of any terrorist group,

:11:07. > :11:15.or any extremist group at all. A few hours after the Birmingham

:11:16. > :11:19.arrests, in the early hours of this morning, at Gatwick Airport,

:11:20. > :11:22.a fifth arrest, of another 26-year-old man as he stepped off

:11:23. > :11:26.a flight from North Africa. Police say the arrests,

:11:27. > :11:29.described by security sources as "significant", follow a joint

:11:30. > :11:31.investigation with French and Belgian security services

:11:32. > :11:33.following the recent It's three-and-a-half weeks

:11:34. > :11:42.since the bombs in Brussels at the airport and on the Metro,

:11:43. > :11:49.in which 32 people died. And five months since the attacks

:11:50. > :11:53.in Paris, which killed 130. Both attacks have been linked

:11:54. > :11:56.to a Belgian man called Mohamed Abrini, who is known

:11:57. > :12:01.to have visited Birmingham. Mohamed Abrini is thought

:12:02. > :12:04.to be the man in the hat, seen at Brussels airport just

:12:05. > :12:07.before the attack. He was arrested after

:12:08. > :12:10.four weeks on the run. He's also thought to have been

:12:11. > :12:13.caught by a CCTV camera at a French petrol station with the leader

:12:14. > :12:16.of the Paris attacks, just two days before

:12:17. > :12:19.they were carried out, potentially connecting him to both

:12:20. > :12:23.Brussels and Paris. The BBC has been told that he Abrini

:12:24. > :12:26.visited Birmingham last summer Pictures of a football stadium

:12:27. > :12:32.were later found on his phone. It is quite worrying if people,

:12:33. > :12:35.who have been implicated in two major incidents

:12:36. > :12:39.in Paris and Brussels, are able to come and go

:12:40. > :12:45.as they please in our city. All five people arrested last night

:12:46. > :12:47.are still being questioned They are being held on suspicion

:12:48. > :13:03.of terrorism, but nobody Was there any suggestion that an

:13:04. > :13:08.attack was being planned here? No, in fact exactly the opposite. While

:13:09. > :13:10.security sources were describing these arrests as potentially

:13:11. > :13:15.significant and while the police talked about an extensive

:13:16. > :13:18.investigation involving the police here, the counter--terrorism unit,

:13:19. > :13:21.MI5 and French and Belgian authorities, police were very keen

:13:22. > :13:23.to stress that there was no suggestion that an attack was being

:13:24. > :13:29.planned here in the UK. Thank you. A second powerful earthquake has

:13:30. > :13:31.struck Southern Japan. The 7.3 magnitude quake hit the city

:13:32. > :13:35.of Kumamoto a few hours ago, bringing buildings down,

:13:36. > :13:37.causing fires and sending thousands Just yesterday the city was hit

:13:38. > :13:42.by another earthquake From Tokyo our correspondent,

:13:43. > :13:50.Ruper Wingfield-Hayes, reports. This is the moment when Japan's

:13:51. > :13:52.national broadcaster broke in to announce that another big

:13:53. > :13:54.earthquake had hit close to the southern

:13:55. > :13:59.Japanese city of Kumamoto. A magnitude 7.1 earthquake has

:14:00. > :14:01.struck off the coast In the darkness, this camera

:14:02. > :14:08.overlooking the city began to sway In a town near the coast,

:14:09. > :14:16.a whole neighbourhood is ablaze At least one person

:14:17. > :14:22.is reported to have died here. The bottom floor of this apartment

:14:23. > :14:25.building in Kumamoto There are numerous reports of people

:14:26. > :14:32.trapped inside buildings, including 60 elderly people trapped

:14:33. > :14:35.in an old people's home. It is now clear that this second

:14:36. > :14:40.earthquake was much bigger It was around 30 times larger

:14:41. > :14:47.in terms of energy released. That meant that many more people

:14:48. > :14:52.were exposed to very strong shaking, maybe over 500,000 people,

:14:53. > :14:54.probably, have been exposed So that means there is a significant

:14:55. > :15:05.chance of casualties. Many of those people have again fled

:15:06. > :15:08.onto the streets and into parks, where thousands are huddled under

:15:09. > :15:13.blankets, looking dazed and afraid. Making things worse,

:15:14. > :15:15.every few minutes after-shocks have These are the biggest quakes to have

:15:16. > :15:23.hit Kumamoto in nearly 100 years. It's clear the people

:15:24. > :15:38.here are very traumatised. It is now daylight in Japan, so the

:15:39. > :15:41.extent of the damage is becoming clearer. There are ongoing rescue is

:15:42. > :15:46.happening as we speak. The government in Tokyo has recently

:15:47. > :15:50.released the latest figures. They say the death toll is still at one,

:15:51. > :15:54.which is good news, but there are 23 cases of people trapped under

:15:55. > :15:59.rubble. How many people are involved in each of those cases, we don't

:16:00. > :16:02.know. It is clear the death toll could rise quite a lot further.

:16:03. > :16:05.A brief look at some of the day's other news stories: Two teenage

:16:06. > :16:08.girls have appeared at a youth court accused of kidnapping

:16:09. > :16:10.a two-year-old girl from a Primark store in Newcastle.

:16:11. > :16:13.The district judge was told that they are alleged to have had

:16:14. > :16:15.a sexual motive for the abduction, and remanded them into care

:16:16. > :16:20.A mother who admitted murdering her baby son has

:16:21. > :16:24.Lesley Dunford, who's 37, was already in prison

:16:25. > :16:25.for the manslaughter of her three-year-old daughter,

:16:26. > :16:33.Politicians in Brazil have begun debating whether to impeach

:16:34. > :16:35.President Dilma Rousseff, ahead of a vote on

:16:36. > :16:40.If two-thirds of deputies vote in favour, it will trigger a formal

:16:41. > :16:44.The president faces charges that she illegally manipulated

:16:45. > :16:50.government accounts to conceal a growing deficit.

:16:51. > :16:53.New figures show a sharp rise in the numbers of migrants setting

:16:54. > :16:55.sail from Libya to Europe being picked up by the

:16:56. > :17:05.Today, the head of EU foreign affairs and security went to see

:17:06. > :17:10.So far this year, the EU naval operation in the Mediterranean has

:17:11. > :17:13.led to 68 alleged people smugglers being arrested, more than a hundred

:17:14. > :17:16.boats being destroyed and around 13,000 migrants being rescued -

:17:17. > :17:20.But since Monday, the Italian coastguard says 4,000 people have

:17:21. > :17:26.Our special correspondent Richard Bilton joined the naval

:17:27. > :17:37.It is the flagship of an operation to save lives.

:17:38. > :17:40.The Cavour is Italy's pride and joy, but this fighting ship is now

:17:41. > :17:50.It is part of the EU's response to so much death in

:17:51. > :18:00.Operation Sophia targets the people smugglers, but most of its work has

:18:01. > :18:13.The seas are watched from above, military personnel

:18:14. > :18:22.Last year, migrant boats drifted for days.

:18:23. > :18:33.We are detecting them and we are able to send assets

:18:34. > :18:41.There is criticism that this military operation is making

:18:42. > :18:44.the rescue process too efficient, that it has effectively become

:18:45. > :18:49.a pick-up service - and, in doing so, making these seas safer,

:18:50. > :18:54.it is attracting more migrants to try and make the crossing.

:18:55. > :19:01.This is one of the 26 rescues since Monday.

:19:02. > :19:04.Young children in a flimsy dinghy, the desperate who set off

:19:05. > :19:13.The number of those risking everything for a new life is up

:19:14. > :19:23.So, what does the woman in charge of this operation think?

:19:24. > :19:26.Visiting the carrier today, Federica Mogherini, the EU's

:19:27. > :19:33.Last year we were feeling the shame of a European Union that was not

:19:34. > :19:38.Today, we have to be proud of the fact that we

:19:39. > :19:45.Do you think that the rescue operation is so efficient

:19:46. > :19:48.now that it has become a kind of collection point?

:19:49. > :19:51.The action is effective on the smugglers' network.

:19:52. > :19:54.They are paying a price, an economic price, and life

:19:55. > :19:57.is becoming more difficult for their business.

:19:58. > :20:03.But this military might is not slowing the flow of people.

:20:04. > :20:07.This dangerous crossing is busier than ever.

:20:08. > :20:08.Richard Bilton, BBC News, on the Cavour,

:20:09. > :20:16.In America, there's been a fierce debate over a new law affecting gay,

:20:17. > :20:20.lesbian and transgender people in the state of North Carolina.

:20:21. > :20:29.It means transgender people can only use public toilets in accordance

:20:30. > :20:31.with the sex on their birth certificate - and it restricts

:20:32. > :20:33.the protection of some of gay and transgender

:20:34. > :20:36.Rock stars including Bruce Springsteen have

:20:37. > :20:37.cancelled their shows in North Carolina in protest,

:20:38. > :20:41.as our North America correspondent Aleem Maqbool reports

:20:42. > :20:56.He never identified as a girl and is now going through the medical

:20:57. > :21:01.But Luke's state has just passed a law that says he and others

:21:02. > :21:05.who are transgender have to use public bathrooms for the sex

:21:06. > :21:08.they were born with, not what they identify as.

:21:09. > :21:12.Dressed like this, I don't want to go to the girls bathroom,

:21:13. > :21:14.because I'll just be shunned by my peers then.

:21:15. > :21:17.They'll be, like, "What are you doing?"

:21:18. > :21:19.But then if I go to the guy's bathroom, and somebody, say,

:21:20. > :21:22.who knows that I'm transgender and doesn't like me,

:21:23. > :21:24.they could out me very easily and I could get

:21:25. > :21:26.suspension from school temporarily, for having

:21:27. > :21:32.There have been demonstrations against the new measures,

:21:33. > :21:38.Bruce Springstein and Ringo Starr are among those who have

:21:39. > :21:41.cancelled performances in North Carolina in protest.

:21:42. > :21:44.PayPal and Deutsche Bank have said they're pulling

:21:45. > :21:50.investments out of the state unless the law is overturned.

:21:51. > :21:53.A lot of the focus has been on the issue of what bathroom can be

:21:54. > :21:55.used by members of the transgender community, but, actually,

:21:56. > :22:02.For people across North Carolina, this law takes away protection

:22:03. > :22:05.against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation that had been

:22:06. > :22:14.That affects the many employees here from LGBT communities,

:22:15. > :22:17.as we heard very frankly from one of the politicians who pushed

:22:18. > :22:24.I think an employer has the right to choose

:22:25. > :22:30.who the employer wants to work, unless it's a matter of race,

:22:31. > :22:37.colour, national origin, biological sex or religion.

:22:38. > :22:39.You think it is OK for an employer to say,

:22:40. > :22:41."I don't want to hire a gay employee?"

:22:42. > :22:46.There is no national law in America that explicitly forbids that.

:22:47. > :22:50.But to hear a senior elected official so openly say that

:22:51. > :22:54.discrimination is OK is something members of the gay community told us

:22:55. > :23:00.It surprises me that people still feel like that.

:23:01. > :23:03.I mean, being gay has nothing to do with your job.

:23:04. > :23:05.Things have been progressing for decades now,

:23:06. > :23:13.This just goes and shows us how much more work has to be done.

:23:14. > :23:16.The courts, the Supreme Court said we can get married.

:23:17. > :23:20.It seems that this is all retaliation to that.

:23:21. > :23:22.Pressure's building to repeal the law, with its rules on bathrooms

:23:23. > :23:27.But the politicians here remain defiant,

:23:28. > :23:38.The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have trekked

:23:39. > :23:43.to Bhutan's holiest site - the ancient Tiger's Nest monastery.

:23:44. > :23:46.It's perched on a cliff more than 10,000 feet above sea level

:23:47. > :23:51.To reach it, the royal couple had to walk for three hours -

:23:52. > :23:54.a journey Prince William initially described as easy, though

:23:55. > :23:56.Our royal correspondent Nicholas Witchell

:23:57. > :24:02.Hand in hand, they looked like a couple setting out

:24:03. > :24:06.for a quiet stroll - except this was hardly that.

:24:07. > :24:09.Ahead of them, a climb getting on for 3,000 feet,

:24:10. > :24:11.about three quarters of the height of Britain's tallest

:24:12. > :24:16.Their destination - the Tiger's Nest, a 17th century

:24:17. > :24:21.Buddhist monastery built on an almost sheer cliff face.

:24:22. > :24:24.It's a steep climb, quite a scramble in some places

:24:25. > :24:26.and here they are at approximately halfway point, still

:24:27. > :24:27.strolling and barely breaking sweat.

:24:28. > :24:30.How are you finding the climb?

:24:31. > :24:41.He's probably saying that to embarrass the press corps,

:24:42. > :24:43.who struggled up with the aid of pack horses.

:24:44. > :24:45.Well, just to carry the equipment, you understand.

:24:46. > :24:49.At the halfway point there were prayer wheels to examine.

:24:50. > :24:51.And a rather hurried photocall with William and Katherine posing

:24:52. > :24:54.with the Tiger's Nest in the distance behind them.

:24:55. > :24:59.All very picturesque - except William and Katherine

:25:00. > :25:02.are in Bhutan, briefly, at the request of the Foreign

:25:03. > :25:09.There's a tricky balance on a day such as this.

:25:10. > :25:11.We shouldn't forget this is an official visit,

:25:12. > :25:14.paid for by the taxpayer and also an opportunity for some

:25:15. > :25:19.And the couple's wish, perhaps understandably, is to do

:25:20. > :25:30.A further steep climb ahead, which brought them to a position

:25:31. > :25:35.Another photocall and then a private visit

:25:36. > :25:40.Nearly 20 years ago William's father Prince Charles came to Bhutan.

:25:41. > :25:43.He too climbed to the Tiger's Nest, reportedly with ten pack horses,

:25:44. > :25:45.which brought, among other things his easel and paints,

:25:46. > :25:50.Today, his elder son and his wife left with only their memories

:25:51. > :25:57.I feel very lucky and fortunate to see such beautiful scenery.

:25:58. > :26:02.That's something I will remind him about when I see him.

:26:03. > :26:08.More business than pleasure, certainly.

:26:09. > :26:15.That's all from us, now on BBC One, it's time