21/06/2016

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:00:07. > :00:10.We're in Wembley where the biggest debate of this EU referendum

:00:11. > :00:19.Six prominent Remain and Leave campaigners,

:00:20. > :00:21.an audience of up to 6,000 voters debating the economy, Britain's

:00:22. > :00:26.Your campaign hasn't been project fear, it's been project hate, as far

:00:27. > :00:32.I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask people...

:00:33. > :00:35.to ask people whether they'd rather proceed on the basis of Government

:00:36. > :00:37.promises on immigration or whether they would rather

:00:38. > :00:45.There were repeated clashes on whether leaving the EU would lead

:00:46. > :00:52.As long as we're shackled to a failing Eurozone,

:00:53. > :00:57.libel to bail out after bail out, we will not succeed.

:00:58. > :01:00.They haven't told us how many jobs would be lost.

:01:01. > :01:02.They haven't told us how long new trade deals would take.

:01:03. > :01:05.They haven't told us how big the hit will be.

:01:06. > :01:08.I don't think that's good enough when That's good enough when you're

:01:09. > :01:14.We'll have reaction away from Wembley to see how the debate's

:01:15. > :01:21.In his first interview, the husband of the MP

:01:22. > :01:25.Jo Cox says his wife died because of her politics.

:01:26. > :01:28.She was a politician and she had very strong political views and I

:01:29. > :01:39.believe she was killed because of those views.

:01:40. > :01:41.Behind the smiles - the father, who murdered his

:01:42. > :01:48.daughter in a fit of rage, jailed for a minimum of 23 years.

:01:49. > :01:50.Major Tim Peake on returning to earth and his message

:01:51. > :01:56.In football, Northern Ireland lose their match to Germany,

:01:57. > :02:09.On Euro 2016 Sportsday we will have further reaction to that narrow

:02:10. > :02:11.defeat at the hands of Germany here in Paris. The Northern Ireland fans

:02:12. > :02:34.say they're not going home just yet. Good evening from Wembley Arena,

:02:35. > :02:37.where 6,000 voters have been attending the biggest debate of this

:02:38. > :02:40.EU referendum campaign, Tonight's debate focused on three

:02:41. > :02:45.areas - the economy, immigration There were some hard-hitting

:02:46. > :02:50.exchanges, especially on immigration, but time and again

:02:51. > :02:53.the two sides accused each other of misleading voters on some

:02:54. > :02:56.of the biggest questions of the day. Our political editor,

:02:57. > :02:57.Laura Kuenssberg, Big ideas, big characters, big rows.

:02:58. > :03:25.Now, time for the biggest debate. APPLAUSE Tonight, for both sides,

:03:26. > :03:29.it's so clearly really mattered. You know, sometimes voting doesn't make

:03:30. > :03:34.much difference, on Thursday it really does. You will decide who

:03:35. > :03:40.makes decisions about the future of this country. Even those who want us

:03:41. > :03:44.to leave admit that it's a big gamble. If there's one thing you

:03:45. > :03:49.should remember when you go to vote, it's this - if we as a country

:03:50. > :03:54.decide to quit, we're out for good. There's no going back. First, how

:03:55. > :03:59.the country makes a living. This country receives about a fifth of

:04:00. > :04:04.Germany's entire car manufacturing output. 820,000 vehicles a year. Do

:04:05. > :04:09.you seriously suppose that they are going to be so insane as to allow

:04:10. > :04:20.tariffs to be imposed between Britain and Germany? I'm here

:04:21. > :04:23.representing workers tonight. Union reps from BMW, Ford nicksan, you

:04:24. > :04:27.name, it across the manufacturing sector they are saying we cannot

:04:28. > :04:31.afford to take this gamble. All the Remain side have to talk about is

:04:32. > :04:36.project Fear. We are the fifth biggest economy in the world. We

:04:37. > :04:42.will be able to negotiate free trade once we're free of the European

:04:43. > :04:46.Union base. They have done a terrible job negotiated free trade

:04:47. > :04:51.for us. The sharpest clash between two Tories. Michael Gove say it is

:04:52. > :04:55.would mean bumps in the road. He can't guarantee people won't lose

:04:56. > :04:57.their jobs. I cannot guarantee that every person currently in work in

:04:58. > :05:02.their current job will keep their job. Boris Johnson said, will there

:05:03. > :05:07.be job losses? Is there might or might not. That is not good enough.

:05:08. > :05:11.APPLAUSE. That is not good enough. APPLAUSE. I think it's very

:05:12. > :05:18.surprising... It hasn't taken them long. Boris. It hasn't taken them

:05:19. > :05:21.long. How many jobs will go, Boris They would say they would have a

:05:22. > :05:27.positive and pay he reel Octoberic case they are back to project fear

:05:28. > :05:32.It's not unreasonable for a mum and dad worried about paying the bills

:05:33. > :05:38.to ask what is your plan. A slogan is not a plan. Then immigration and

:05:39. > :05:42.identity. My family and had first-hand experience recently with

:05:43. > :05:49.the NHS how would it manage if they left the EU giving the UK's ability

:05:50. > :05:54.to train doctors and An Australian style nurses. Points-based system

:05:55. > :05:58.much we get the people we need for the NHS and all our other businesses

:05:59. > :06:03.and services. The only way you can do that is to vote leave. Have a

:06:04. > :06:07.fair immigration policy it should not be a free-for-all. David Cameron

:06:08. > :06:14.deserves credit for the deal he negotiated with the EU. What it

:06:15. > :06:17.means... What did he LAUGHTER. Say? What it means, is you pay in before

:06:18. > :06:23.you can take out. You have to wait four years. . We should do tonight

:06:24. > :06:25.in a discussion about immigration is celebrate immigrants and

:06:26. > :06:32.immigration. Everything they do for our country. I speak entirely

:06:33. > :06:37.personally. They are - my family, my family has benefitted massively from

:06:38. > :06:41.immigration. The problem is this. You might start off with plaid

:06:42. > :06:44.toweds saying how wonderful immigration is, your campaign hasn't

:06:45. > :06:46.been project fear, it's been project hate as far as immigration's

:06:47. > :06:51.concerned. APPLAUSE. Again, the In camp

:06:52. > :06:56.targeting Boris Johnson. This time over Turkey. You're telling lies you

:06:57. > :07:00.are scaring people you have used taxpayers money to put out an

:07:01. > :07:07.election leaflet that says Turkey is set to join and there's a map. This

:07:08. > :07:11.map shows in red Turkey, butlet only country you named in this map are

:07:12. > :07:15.Syria and Iraq. That's scaremongering, Boris. You should be

:07:16. > :07:19.ashamed. I would quite like the real David Cameron to step forward and

:07:20. > :07:25.tell us what the policy on Turkey is. As a young working-class man I

:07:26. > :07:30.feel at the back of the queue for entry level jobs, housing and public

:07:31. > :07:35.services. How many people each year can the UK reasonably cope with? You

:07:36. > :07:38.don't fund schools and hospitals and you don't control immigration by

:07:39. > :07:46.crashing the economy and that's what leaving the EU would do. That just

:07:47. > :07:50.is completely nonsense. What we will be able to do is to manage the

:07:51. > :07:54.numbers of people who are coming to this country so that we can be fair

:07:55. > :07:59.to those who come here and fair to those who already live here. Then

:08:00. > :08:06.almost a final words after months of clashes. I know that the EU isn't

:08:07. > :08:10.perfect, but the benefits far outweigh any costs. The Britain that

:08:11. > :08:13.I know, the Britain that I love, works with its friends and

:08:14. > :08:20.neighbours. It doesn't walk away from them. If we vote Leave and take

:08:21. > :08:23.back control, I believe that this Thursday can be our country's

:08:24. > :08:30.Independence Day. APPLAUSE. An ovation for that

:08:31. > :08:35.promise after a bruising debate. One day left after weeks and weeks, few

:08:36. > :08:37.now can say the arguments have not been heard. Laura Kuenssberg, BBC

:08:38. > :08:45.News, Wembley. Representatives of the Leave

:08:46. > :08:47.and Remain campaigns are trying to make sure that tonight's debate

:08:48. > :08:49.is interpreted to They're in the so-called "spin room"

:08:50. > :08:55.with broadcasters and other media Our deputy political editor,

:08:56. > :09:03.John Pienaar, is with them. John, what do you make of the case

:09:04. > :09:09.and the claims being made by both sides? Well you can get a sense

:09:10. > :09:14.looking around here. This place is very, very busy. Around me you can

:09:15. > :09:17.see the journalists and writers from online, broadcasters and newspapers

:09:18. > :09:22.pounding out their copy of what they made of the evening. On either side

:09:23. > :09:25.you see the message managers, weaving their tales, spinning their

:09:26. > :09:27.tales. Look over there. Steve Hilton, former adviser to David

:09:28. > :09:31.Cameron. He is the one who claimed that Cameron was up against it

:09:32. > :09:34.today, trying to hide the fact he was losing the argument on

:09:35. > :09:38.migration. That he'd been told years ago he would never reach that target

:09:39. > :09:43.of migration below 100,000, but ploughing on anyway. Down here, you

:09:44. > :09:50.can see there Lisa, in the Shadow Cabinet. Over there Chuka Umunna, a

:09:51. > :09:56.senior Labour figure. They say the Remain side had a good night. Lisa

:09:57. > :10:00.said they thought she had never been so confident. It's difficult on the

:10:01. > :10:03.issue of migration. They thought they had the Leave side on the back

:10:04. > :10:09.foot. What you get agreements on, it was a real fight here tonight. A

:10:10. > :10:12.really rather even battle. Each side happy with the way they...

:10:13. > :10:16.Altogether and the copy that is being bashed out by the journalists

:10:17. > :10:19.at each of these tables and laptops getting their copy ready for the

:10:20. > :10:24.morning and overnight. They feel there is a true battle going on. The

:10:25. > :10:26.outcome very much in the balance after a truly passionate difficult

:10:27. > :10:30.campaign for so many of reasons. With a certain amount of tragedy

:10:31. > :10:35.intruding into the proceedings in the way we've seen, it makes it an

:10:36. > :10:39.unpredictable outcome. It's truly in the balance. But on the Remain side

:10:40. > :10:42.they now think they are very much in this fight the way they were

:10:43. > :10:47.beginning to get dispondent not so long ago. They are becoming

:10:48. > :10:50.gradually more confident. Interesting, John, thank you very

:10:51. > :10:54.much. John Pienaar there in that spin room for us in Wembley a short

:10:55. > :10:56.distance away. John there with the view as he see it is from the Leave

:10:57. > :11:04.and Remain campaigns. The view there from the Leave

:11:05. > :11:06.and Remain campaigns, but what did those in tonight's

:11:07. > :11:08.audience here at Wembley make My colleague, Reeta Chakrabarti,

:11:09. > :11:17.is with some of those who asked Thank you. I'm with four of the

:11:18. > :11:19.people who kick-started the different sections of the debate.

:11:20. > :11:22.The first of all, Maxine, you are a Leave supporter. You run a small

:11:23. > :11:27.business and you feel stifled by EU legislation. You asked what was the

:11:28. > :11:31.benefit to you in staying in the EU. Were you persuaded there are

:11:32. > :11:34.benefits? No, not at all. I was actually quite disappointed with

:11:35. > :11:40.what was actually said from the Remain side this evening. What about

:11:41. > :11:46.from the Leave side what did they say to you that you thought, yes?

:11:47. > :11:50.Lots of positives. Things came about 60% of our regulation comes from the

:11:51. > :11:54.EU. For me, as a small business owner, I know, I've suffered ford

:11:55. > :11:57.it. So have many other small businesses. Small business do make

:11:58. > :12:04.up the majority of employers in the country. For me, there is only one

:12:05. > :12:09.choice really that is to vote Leave and do the right thing on Thursday.

:12:10. > :12:14.OK. Miranda you asked a question on the economy. You worried there would

:12:15. > :12:18.be weaker employment and social rights if we leave. What did you

:12:19. > :12:22.think of the responses you got? I was very concerned from the Leave

:12:23. > :12:25.side they didn't address the issues regarding employment and social

:12:26. > :12:30.rights today. Yes, they made the case that we had the Sex

:12:31. > :12:33.Discrimination Act and the Equal Pay Act put into place by national

:12:34. > :12:37.Government, but they didn't talk about the fact that Governments of

:12:38. > :12:42.both the main political parties have fought tooth and nail for rights

:12:43. > :12:45.against agency workers, fixed time workers, part-time workers, equality

:12:46. > :12:50.directives. If we leave the EU they will not have to adhere to any of

:12:51. > :12:54.that any more. In the modern-day, governments have not protected our

:12:55. > :12:57.rights. I'm very concerned that leaving the EU would mean a

:12:58. > :13:01.weakening and a slippery slope in terms 67 employment and social

:13:02. > :13:05.rights. I'm not convinced by the Leave answer. You are a Leave

:13:06. > :13:09.supporter. You wanted to know how many people each year can the UK

:13:10. > :13:12.reasonably cope with. Did you think you you got an answer? I don't think

:13:13. > :13:15.I was given an exact answer by either side of the campaign tonight.

:13:16. > :13:22.What did you think of the arguments made? I think that the leave

:13:23. > :13:26.campaign put forward a persuasive argue up. They told me how I would

:13:27. > :13:30.feel like I wasn't at the back of the queue for public services entry

:13:31. > :13:34.level jobs and housing and how we do better. The remain campaign dodged

:13:35. > :13:37.the question and didn't give me a clear answer on any of the points I

:13:38. > :13:41.raised. Which was very disappointing. I will be voting

:13:42. > :13:45.leave. OK. Alex. You asked the last question which was about Britain's

:13:46. > :13:49.place in the world. Suggesting that the EU has helped to Foster European

:13:50. > :13:53.peace. Did you hear anything to change your mind No, I didn't. I

:13:54. > :13:57.wasn't impressed with the answers on the leave side of the panel. I don't

:13:58. > :14:02.think there has been positive dialogue in the entire debate. There

:14:03. > :14:11.is a positive story to tell about the EU's role in fostering peace.

:14:12. > :14:18.They resorted to the same EU army we can block that as members of the EU

:14:19. > :14:24.and put it down to Nato. EU and NATO play a complimentary roles. Thank

:14:25. > :14:32.you very much, Alex. Thank you of course to all of you. So some widely

:14:33. > :14:36.diverging views here. Deeply held. Back to you.

:14:37. > :14:40.Laura Kuenssberg, our political editor, is with me here

:14:41. > :14:49.Both sides felt it had been evenly balanced. That was John's take? Both

:14:50. > :14:53.sides will feel that they had a decent outing tonight. I think the

:14:54. > :14:56.Remain team on stage tonight maybe answereden a question that has been

:14:57. > :15:02.asked a lot in this campaign - where is the passion for staying in the

:15:03. > :15:06.European Union? I think we saw that team with new faces to many people,

:15:07. > :15:10.Sadiq Khan, the Labour Mayor of London, the Scottish Tory leader,

:15:11. > :15:14.Ruth Davidson,ing together as a team to make arguments for the European

:15:15. > :15:19.Union rather than making excuses for it. That's a criticism that has been

:15:20. > :15:22.levelled at the In camp throughout the past few weeks. At the same

:15:23. > :15:27.time, that big ovation at the end, audience members on their feet, that

:15:28. > :15:31.was for Boris Johnson and his promise of an Independence Day on

:15:32. > :15:36.the 24th June if we were to vote to leave the European Union. There is

:15:37. > :15:39.no question really, tonight, as throughout the campaign, the

:15:40. > :15:43.emotional enthusiasm that, that does matter in politics, is on that side

:15:44. > :15:45.of the argument. Laura, we'll talk again a little later. Thanks very

:15:46. > :15:50.much for now. Laura Kuenssberg there. More from Wembley later.

:15:51. > :15:53.More from Wembley a little later in the programme and much more,

:15:54. > :15:55.of course, on our website with analysis of the campaigns

:15:56. > :15:57.and what they're saying about the central themes

:15:58. > :16:05.But for now, it's back to Fiona in the studio.

:16:06. > :16:09.Let's take a look at some of the day's other news.

:16:10. > :16:12.The husband of the Labour MP Jo Cox, who was attacked and killed

:16:13. > :16:15.in her constituency last week, has given his first interview,

:16:16. > :16:17.saying he believes she died for her political views.

:16:18. > :16:20.Brendan Cox said his wife had been worried about the tone

:16:21. > :16:23.of the political debate in the UK and feared that it was sowing

:16:24. > :16:30.He's been speaking to our political editor, Laura Kuenssberg.

:16:31. > :16:39.Obviously, we never anticipated anything like this, but then

:16:40. > :16:42.the public reaction has been off the scale and the two things that

:16:43. > :16:50.I've been very focused on is - how do we support and protect

:16:51. > :16:55.the children and how do we make sure that something

:16:56. > :17:05.And, what the public support and outpouring of love around this

:17:06. > :17:13.does is it also helps the children see that what they're feeling

:17:14. > :17:18.That the grief they feel isn't abnormal.

:17:19. > :17:21.That they feel it more acutely and more painfully

:17:22. > :17:24.and more personally, but that actually their mother

:17:25. > :17:27.was someone who was loved by lots of people and that,

:17:28. > :17:31.therefore, it's OK to be upset and it's OK for them to cry and be

:17:32. > :17:35.sad about it and the reason I wanted to speak today was just to thank

:17:36. > :17:41.the public who have been incredible in response to this.

:17:42. > :17:43.What will you tell your children about

:17:44. > :17:56.I think that one of the things from what happened, in terms

:17:57. > :18:04.of the public reaction, is that she's been seen as a symbol

:18:05. > :18:12.A sense of creating more compassion and more love in the world.

:18:13. > :18:17.And the thing that I don't want to lose is that she was also their mum.

:18:18. > :18:22.So I want to protect the personal memory as well as the more political

:18:23. > :18:25.memory and the symbolism that she's taken on.

:18:26. > :18:29.Was she worried about our current political culture, do you think?

:18:30. > :18:32.Yeah, very worried, and from left and right.

:18:33. > :18:37.I think she was very worried that the language was coarsening,

:18:38. > :18:44.that people were being driven to take more extreme positions.

:18:45. > :18:48.I think she worried that we were entering an age

:18:49. > :18:57.that we hadn't seen maybe since the 1930s of people feeling

:18:58. > :19:01.insecure, for lots of different reasons, for economic reasons

:19:02. > :19:06.or security reasons and then populous politicians,

:19:07. > :19:11.whether that's Trump in the US or whoever else, exploiting that

:19:12. > :19:15.and driving communities to hate each other.

:19:16. > :19:18.This, of course, has happened at a time when Britain's engaged

:19:19. > :19:21.in a big national conversation about our place in the world

:19:22. > :19:29.We know that she was clearly for staying in the European Union,

:19:30. > :19:32.but what did she make of how the conversation's been conducted?

:19:33. > :19:35.I think, as everybody knows, that Jo was a passionate

:19:36. > :19:39.pro-European and she definitely worried about the tone

:19:40. > :19:45.Not that it's not a legitimate debate to have and that there aren't

:19:46. > :19:48.completely legitimate views on both sides of the debate,

:19:49. > :19:56.but more about the tone of whipping up fears and whipping up hatred.

:19:57. > :19:59.Do you worry now about people using her in the political debate?

:20:00. > :20:06.She was a politician and she had very strong political views

:20:07. > :20:12.and I believe she was killed because of those views.

:20:13. > :20:20.She would want to stand up for those in death as much as she did in life.

:20:21. > :20:27.I will remember somebody who had incredible energy,

:20:28. > :20:34.Somebody who would have no regrets about how she lived her life.

:20:35. > :20:39.So I'll remember so much about her but, most of al,l

:20:40. > :20:48.I will just remember that she met the world with love and...

:20:49. > :20:53.Both love for her children, love in our family, but also love

:20:54. > :20:58.She just approached things with a spirit.

:20:59. > :21:01.She wasn't perfect at all, you know, but she just wanted

:21:02. > :21:05.to make the world a better place and to contribute

:21:06. > :21:11.That was Brendan Cox speaking to our political

:21:12. > :21:17.A brief look at some of the day's other news stories.

:21:18. > :21:20.The International Olympic Committee has ruled that competitors

:21:21. > :21:23.from Russia and Kenya must have extra checks, before they can take

:21:24. > :21:26.part in the Rio Olympics because of fears about doping.

:21:27. > :21:28.Last week, the governing body of world athletics, the IAAF,

:21:29. > :21:31.banned track-and-field athletes from competing as part

:21:32. > :21:39.Sir Cliff Richard has said he may sue South Yorkshire Police

:21:40. > :21:42.and the BBC for the way they pursued and reported sex abuse

:21:43. > :21:48.He says his health has been damaged by the stress.

:21:49. > :21:50.The case against him was dropped earlier this month.

:21:51. > :21:53.In a statement, the BBC apologised for any distress caused

:21:54. > :21:57.but said it had "applied normal editorial judgments" to the story.

:21:58. > :22:00.A former Congolese vice-president, who was found guilty

:22:01. > :22:03.of crimes against humanity, has been sentenced

:22:04. > :22:08.Jean-Pierre Bemba was found guilty by the International Criminal Court

:22:09. > :22:11.in the Hague of failing to stop his troops from killing

:22:12. > :22:15.and raping civilians in the Central African Republic.

:22:16. > :22:17.A man has been jailed for life for murdering his six-year-old

:22:18. > :22:20.daughter, just months after she was returned to his care

:22:21. > :22:26.Ben Butler attacked his daughter Ellie, leaving her with

:22:27. > :22:31.He'd been convicted of shaking Ellie as a baby, but that was later

:22:32. > :22:34.quashed and a family court judge returned her to his care.

:22:35. > :22:37.That decision has now been criticised in a serious case review,

:22:38. > :22:42.as our social affairs correspondent, Alison Holt, reports.

:22:43. > :22:45.This is the family life Ben Butler fought for.

:22:46. > :22:52.And the life he destroyed in a fit of rage.

:22:53. > :22:55.Six-year-old Ellie was living with a man on a short fuse

:22:56. > :22:58.as an accidentally recorded phone call demonstrated.

:22:59. > :23:01.Don't you ask me to do something which you ain't (BLEEP) done

:23:02. > :23:09.The film also shows Ellie with a black eye, which Butler

:23:10. > :23:14.Weeks later, in October 2013, he battered Ellie to death,

:23:15. > :23:19.Jennie Gray worked opposite the Old Bailey, yards from the court

:23:20. > :23:24.CCTV footage shows her rushing home to Sutton where they tried to stage

:23:25. > :23:27.things to look like an accident before sending their younger

:23:28. > :23:33.child to find Ellie and finally calling 999.

:23:34. > :23:36.JENNIE GRAY: My daughter is not breathing properly.

:23:37. > :23:39.Jennie Gray is shouting with Ben Butler in the background.

:23:40. > :23:48.OPERATOR: OK, OK, darling, I'm helping you now.

:23:49. > :23:51.It's a 15 minute call in which Jennie Gray is also

:23:52. > :23:53.instructed in how to resuscitate Ellie.

:23:54. > :23:56.OPERATOR: 30 times you need to pump the chest.

:23:57. > :24:01.JENNIE GRAY: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 , 6, 7 , 8 , 9..

:24:02. > :24:04.OPERATOR: OK, darling, you're doing really well.

:24:05. > :24:06.Detectives soon worked out that Ellie had been dead for some time.

:24:07. > :24:09.When you realise that at the time the ambulance was called,

:24:10. > :24:11.it's give or take two hours after she first knew.

:24:12. > :24:24.In 2007, Ben Butler was convicted of shaking six-week-old Ellie.

:24:25. > :24:28.That was quashed on a legal technicality and Ellie eventually

:24:29. > :24:33.The couple even went on television to complain of the injustice.

:24:34. > :24:38.It took to pretty much last month to clear my name completely.

:24:39. > :24:40.Jennie, had you ever any doubts about Ben?

:24:41. > :24:46.I think they're as difficult as any case that a judge

:24:47. > :24:51.Sir Mark Headly was one of the Appeal Court judges

:24:52. > :24:53.who quashed Ben Butler's 2007 criminal conviction

:24:54. > :24:59.He can't talk about that directly, but it was the family court that

:25:00. > :25:04.He's told the BBC that judges there faced the most

:25:05. > :25:09.They're decided in a highly emotive context.

:25:10. > :25:11.They're decided in circumstances where the judge has to make

:25:12. > :25:22.If you get it wrong, either way, there are very serious consequences.

:25:23. > :25:24.But in the family court, Mrs Justice Hogg went as far

:25:25. > :25:28.as to exonerate Ben Butler, saying it was her joy to return

:25:29. > :25:34.Until then, her maternal grandfather had looked after her.

:25:35. > :25:41.I always said to the Judge - one day you all may have blood

:25:42. > :25:43.on your hands with regards to my granddaughter,

:25:44. > :25:49.The court ordered that all files on the family,

:25:50. > :25:53.held by police, health, schools and social workers should

:25:54. > :25:57.clearly say that Ben Butler had been exonerated and the couple

:25:58. > :26:01.or their solicitor could serve that order on any professional

:26:02. > :26:07.At Ellie's school they found she was often absent

:26:08. > :26:10.and when challenged her parents were evasive.

:26:11. > :26:12.The head teacher says normally they would have

:26:13. > :26:17.There was no local authority involvement with Ellie

:26:18. > :26:20.because of the family court judgment from several years before.

:26:21. > :26:25.Therefore, all we do was treat the issue as an attendance issue.

:26:26. > :26:31.The official review into the case concludes that the court ruling gave

:26:32. > :26:33.Butler the upper hand, making it difficult for others

:26:34. > :26:35.to protect a little girl, described by her teachers

:26:36. > :26:46.A British man has been accused of trying to kill the presumptive US

:26:47. > :26:48.Republican presidential candidate, Donald Trump.

:26:49. > :26:51.Michael Sandford, who's 20 and from Dorking,

:26:52. > :26:54.is alleged to have tried to grab a police officer's gun at a Trump

:26:55. > :27:00.Our North America correspondent, James Cook, reports.

:27:01. > :27:06.Was this the rally when Donald Trump came close to death?

:27:07. > :27:09.A turn of the head gives just a hint that something is wrong.

:27:10. > :27:12.In the crowds, say prosecutors, this man.

:27:13. > :27:16.Michael Sanford was trying to wrestle a gun from a police

:27:17. > :27:24.The Secret Service say Mr Sanford told them he'd been planning

:27:25. > :27:27.to murder the Republican for a year, and expected to die

:27:28. > :27:33.He had reportedly come to the US to be with a girlfriend,

:27:34. > :27:35.but had ended up unemployed and living in his car having

:27:36. > :27:41.In Las Vegas yesterday, the 20-year-old appeared in court,

:27:42. > :27:44.giving no explanation for what happened at this hotel.

:27:45. > :27:49.Trembling and shackled, he made no plea and was refused bail.

:27:50. > :27:52.The day before the attack, Michael Sanford is alleged to have

:27:53. > :27:54.come here to this shooting range, a short distance from the hotel

:27:55. > :28:04.Apparently to learn how to fire a gun for the first time.

:28:05. > :28:06.In Michael Sanford's hometown of Dorking

:28:07. > :28:12.Friends and family spoke of a polite boys who like playing with robots.

:28:13. > :28:15.His father said his son was autistic with no interest at all

:28:16. > :28:20.He must have been blackmailed or put up to it, he said.

:28:21. > :28:25.I did know him very well, but he seemed sweet.

:28:26. > :28:28.It's not nice thinking that someone, you know, up the road from you has

:28:29. > :28:32.Donald Trump has been threatened on the campaign trail before.

:28:33. > :28:37.The presidential race of 2016 has been fringed with violence.

:28:38. > :28:39.Clashes are common, and many Americans are worried

:28:40. > :28:49.about where this election, and their country, is heading.

:28:50. > :28:52.The British astronaut, Tim Peake, has said he'd go back

:28:53. > :28:57.He was giving his first news conference after touching back down

:28:58. > :28:59.on earth on Saturday, after a six-month mission

:29:00. > :29:03.He also had this message for the hundreds of thousands

:29:04. > :29:06.of schoolchildren who've been following his trip: "You can do

:29:07. > :29:11.Our science editor, David Shukman, reports from Cologne.

:29:12. > :29:18.Smiling, relaxed and walking steadily at Europe's

:29:19. > :29:23.Tim Peake is making a rapid recovery from his time in space.

:29:24. > :29:31.And, if you did it again, what does your wife think of that?

:29:32. > :29:34.I would do it again in a heartbeat and I can say that happily

:29:35. > :29:37.because I've already spoke to my wife about it.

:29:38. > :29:40.Only three days ago, I watched his dramatic

:29:41. > :29:45.His body, weak from six months without weight,

:29:46. > :29:47.he was feeling dizzy, but he's now improving.

:29:48. > :29:50.Yeah, I'm feeling a lot better than I did on Saturday lunch

:29:51. > :29:55.So what was it like for him, hurtling down from space

:29:56. > :30:00.To look out the window and see earth approaching at 100 kilometers,

:30:01. > :30:02.in what looked like a fairly uncontrolled attitude,

:30:03. > :30:05.was really quite surprising and you really get a strong

:30:06. > :30:08.sensation that you are just falling

:30:09. > :30:19.He's always wanted his mission to inspire children and watching

:30:20. > :30:22.excited was his old school in West Sussex.

:30:23. > :30:24.You're looking at a boy who went to Westbourne Primary School,

:30:25. > :30:27.who left school at the age of 19, with three below-average A-levels,

:30:28. > :30:30.and I've just got back from a six month mission to space.

:30:31. > :30:33.So my message to them is - look, don't let anybody tell

:30:34. > :30:40.It's really exciting and we're really all really proud of him

:30:41. > :30:45.for what he's done and he's inspired us to all do what we want.

:30:46. > :30:49.It's been his dream since he was like our age.

:30:50. > :30:55.During his time in space, more than a million children took

:30:56. > :30:58.part in projects linked to his mission and many

:30:59. > :31:03."Welcome home, Tim, how was it, mate?"

:31:04. > :31:14.Football and Northern Ireland have lost 1-0 to Germany

:31:15. > :31:19.But they have made it through to the final 16,

:31:20. > :31:33.Northern Ireland had its heart set on something special in Paris. Their

:31:34. > :31:37.romance of their story has made an impression. Win or draw against the

:31:38. > :31:42.world champions they will be certain of staying. Early on it became clear

:31:43. > :31:46.how difficult that would be. Michael McGovern was solid. If Michael

:31:47. > :31:50.O'Neill felt the noise was relentless, so was the pressure.

:31:51. > :31:58.Eventually something had to give. After half an hour. Gomis gave

:31:59. > :32:01.Germany the goal they deserved. Northern Ireland was almost

:32:02. > :32:05.mesmerised by their movement. Everyone except McGovern who got to

:32:06. > :32:09.this ball even as the net began to if flinch. Germany continued to be

:32:10. > :32:13.from yous sfrated as Northern Ireland gave every ounce of effort

:32:14. > :32:17.to hold on to a narrow defeat. We hung in there. We defended great.

:32:18. > :32:22.Michael had a fantastic night in goal. He's had a fantastic

:32:23. > :32:25.tournament. And, as I say, we have given ourself-a chance now of

:32:26. > :32:27.obviously getting the opportunity to play in the knock-out stages of the

:32:28. > :32:32.competition and I think what we've done over the three games we deserve

:32:33. > :32:37.that chance. O'Neill's side have come a long way in this tournament

:32:38. > :32:42.their fans fans, many who stayed behind after the final whistle,

:32:43. > :32:47.don't want this aventure to end it wasn't a fairytale upset it hasn't

:32:48. > :32:50.dampened the mood among the Northern Irish fans. It's not over yet. If

:32:51. > :32:54.results go their way they could join England and Wales in the lasts 16.

:32:55. > :32:58.These fans didn't have to wait long as the Czech Republic's failure to

:32:59. > :33:01.beat Turkey in the late kick-off sent Northern Ireland through.

:33:02. > :33:10.Another bit of history to celebrate. This is quite a remarkable

:33:11. > :33:15.achievement by Northern Ireland who began the tournament as 500-1

:33:16. > :33:18.outsiders. They defied the odds to join England and Wales in the last

:33:19. > :33:22.16. Ultimately, it was their goal difference that confirmed Thai

:33:23. > :33:27.progress this evening. For that they had to thank their goal cope, they

:33:28. > :33:31.will play either the hosts France in Lyon or Wales in Paris for a place

:33:32. > :33:34.in the quarter-finals. Katie, in Paris, thank you.

:33:35. > :33:37.Now, with more on the reaction to tonight's big EU debate

:33:38. > :33:44.Earlier on, we heard the reaction from some

:33:45. > :33:48.of the audience of 6,000 people, here at the Wembley Arena,

:33:49. > :33:55.who heard the Leave and Remain camps questioned about a range of issues

:33:56. > :34:02.including the economy, immigration and Britain's place in the world.

:34:03. > :34:04.But how did the debate go down in people's homes?

:34:05. > :34:14.Our home editor, Mark Easton, has been in Solihull this evening.

:34:15. > :34:20.In a showroom we have assembled a small group of west Midlanders who

:34:21. > :34:24.we first heard discussing the referendum back in early February

:34:25. > :34:27.before they had made their minds up. Yeah, this campaign began in the

:34:28. > :34:32.depths of winter. It will end in what should be the height of summer.

:34:33. > :34:36.We have invited our seasoned campaign watchers to judge the last

:34:37. > :34:42.of the big TV referendum debates and offer a view from the sofa. We

:34:43. > :34:49.encouraged our TV audience to respond to what they saw and heard.

:34:50. > :34:55.If you look at it, the stay campaign look the most credible people there.

:34:56. > :34:58.They look organised. They look, especially, Khan, he's like a good

:34:59. > :35:04.talker. He is a very good speaker to the public. Law school training. .

:35:05. > :35:08.Exactly. You think - law school training. You're trying to lie. The

:35:09. > :35:14.fact they have Boris Johnson up there, the way he looks, the way he

:35:15. > :35:19.presents himself. He pulls paper - He know what is he's talking about.

:35:20. > :35:24.He does look crazy. He should wash his hair. That is what people love

:35:25. > :35:28.about him. Our jury found itself swayed both ways as it listened to

:35:29. > :35:32.arguments about the economy and then immigration. If it was just about

:35:33. > :35:36.the immigration, leave. Leave because what's the point - It's

:35:37. > :35:40.massive part. I agree with that. Yes. If it was just about

:35:41. > :35:44.immigration. Why can't we stay, but say, right, we will stay -

:35:45. > :35:48.Negotiate. But we can't keep letting this many people in or. We need to

:35:49. > :35:52.vet the people that are coming in. They won't. The law states at the

:35:53. > :35:59.moment there has been freedom. Equal. One minute you think Steve,

:36:00. > :36:04.the next leave, our jury complained as the jury came to a close. You

:36:05. > :36:08.should have a third option. Sit on the fence. Like a tick box. I'll

:36:09. > :36:17.stay for that. Leave for that. Leave for that. War. If we need you.

:36:18. > :36:21.Otherwise we just don't need you. With just a day to go before the

:36:22. > :36:27.polls open, we asked our panel to conduct one final task. Come up with

:36:28. > :36:31.one word to describe the last five months of campaigning? Investment,

:36:32. > :36:36.contradicting, risky and scaremongering. The time for talking

:36:37. > :36:43.is nearly done, the time for a decision almost upon us. No-one

:36:44. > :36:50.knows which way it'll go. Mark Easton, BBC News.

:36:51. > :37:01.An interesting taste of the reaction there. One set, but lots to come.

:37:02. > :37:03.The kinds of issues that were causing challenges for the

:37:04. > :37:06.politicians on both sides, right at the start of the campaign, are still

:37:07. > :37:11.the ones causing challenges here this evening? They are. I think, in

:37:12. > :37:15.a sense, the campaign hasn't had one big transformational moment. There

:37:16. > :37:21.are three things that have run all the the way through. It's been bad

:37:22. > :37:27.tempered. Almost from day one, bad temper and more and more bruising as

:37:28. > :37:30.time went on. In terms of the arguments themselves, the main

:37:31. > :37:34.clashes have been the economy and on immigration. In terms ever beyond

:37:35. > :37:38.the politicians, those are the three things they have tangled up on time

:37:39. > :37:41.and time again. Something else, particularly has crept in, very

:37:42. > :37:44.importantly in the last couple of weeks. As the public have taken hold

:37:45. > :37:49.of this debate it's also really become more and more about identity.

:37:50. > :37:53.That, I think, is why, for so many people, this is such an important

:37:54. > :37:58.decision, but also such an agonising one. Another transition in the

:37:59. > :38:02.campaign, late on, we can't now say that people don't have a grasp of

:38:03. > :38:04.what's at stake because all along, in the Earl why I stages, people

:38:05. > :38:08.were debating about what this referendum was about. What's clear

:38:09. > :38:11.tonight, certainly from the questions and from some of the

:38:12. > :38:14.answers, we are now on the eve of the last day of campaigning, people

:38:15. > :38:18.realise what's at stake here. They do. It matters so much more than the

:38:19. > :38:22.careers of the politicians we have seen on the platform tonight or any

:38:23. > :38:26.other platform or any other debates throughout this campaign. You know,

:38:27. > :38:30.this isn't just about one decision. It's not just about one month, one

:38:31. > :38:35.year, one Prime Minister, one parliamentary term. This is a very

:38:36. > :38:38.rare thing. It's a democratic decision we're all being asked to

:38:39. > :38:41.make that will decide a lot for the country for decades to come. Our

:38:42. > :38:46.place in the world. What happens to the economy. What kind of country do

:38:47. > :38:50.we really want to be? This referendum, because of the scale of

:38:51. > :38:53.that question, has gone way beyond the traditional party lines, the

:38:54. > :38:56.traditional tribes we saw tonight people from different parties all

:38:57. > :39:01.mixing up and on different sides of the argument. In a sense, in a way

:39:02. > :39:04.that I think some politicians had under estimated would happen, the

:39:05. > :39:09.referendum has thrown all of British politics up in the air. We just

:39:10. > :39:13.don't know where it will land. But the people who decide where it will

:39:14. > :39:16.all land are not the people on the stage, it's every single one of us

:39:17. > :39:21.who will be putting our crosses in which ever box in the privacy of the

:39:22. > :39:26.polling Boot on Thursday. -- booth. One day of campaigning to go. We

:39:27. > :39:29.will find after that. We will. Laura Kuenssberg there our political

:39:30. > :39:34.editor. There that is all from Wembley. More analysis on Newsnight

:39:35. > :39:37.on BBC Two. Tomorrow morning the Prime Minister, David Cameron, and

:39:38. > :39:41.Boris Johnson will be questioned on BBC Breakfast. They won't be

:39:42. > :39:44.debating, they will be questioned separately on BBC Breakfast. Now on

:39:45. > :39:45.BBC One it's time for the news where you