:02:21. > :02:26.friend or enemy? Is nothing sacred in man's relentless drive for
:02:26. > :02:36.development? Test Cricket, does it even have a future? Is modern life
:02:36. > :02:49.
:02:49. > :02:54.Welcome to Tiananmen Square. Almost a quarter of a century ago, I
:02:54. > :03:00.stood right on this spot and witnessed a massacre. Since then,
:03:00. > :03:09.China has grown hugely in wealth and power. Under the last leader, China
:03:09. > :03:14.seemed to turn itself into a super -- power. This year there's been a
:03:14. > :03:18.new leadership. I have been given the BBC's first high-level political
:03:18. > :03:27.interview in China in literally decades.
:03:27. > :03:31.I put the question to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Is China on a
:03:31. > :03:37.collision course with the West? TRANSLATION: We can absolutely avoid
:03:37. > :03:43.that. Recently pth President and President Obama had an historic and
:03:43. > :03:48.strategic meeting in California. The purpose of this meeting was to
:03:48. > :03:53.explore a path of a giant country of relations. That was to avoid the
:03:53. > :03:59.historical rule that emerging powers like China and existing powers like
:03:59. > :04:05.the US are doomed to be in conflict. We have seen it in history when a
:04:05. > :04:13.new giant country emerges it will have conflicts. However, the 21st
:04:13. > :04:17.century calls for peace and and. So both China and the US have the
:04:17. > :04:21.responsibility to explore a new path for giant country relations, as well
:04:21. > :04:30.as a development path for China and relations. One of the problems that
:04:30. > :04:38.people have in the West is that China supports so many regimes that
:04:38. > :04:40.behave disgusting badly to their own people - why does China support
:04:41. > :04:45.these countries? TRANSLATION: We think we should
:04:45. > :04:48.stick in the internationally accepted principal of
:04:48. > :04:53.nonintervention in other country's internal affairs. Every country
:04:53. > :04:59.should promote and promote human rights. When it comes to
:04:59. > :05:05.country-to-country relationships we should stick to non- of other
:05:05. > :05:12.country's affairs. What about Syria, countries like the congo, where
:05:12. > :05:18.China has sometimes supported some of the worst aspects of Government?
:05:18. > :05:24.Like I said, we never lean towards anyone when dealing international
:05:24. > :05:28.affairs. Any stand or measures we take are on
:05:29. > :05:34.the merits of the case itself, and are based on purposes and principals
:05:34. > :05:41.of the United Nations Charter and the five principals of peaceful
:05:41. > :05:47.existence we hold. There's another problem that many
:05:47. > :05:54.people in the West have with China's approach to the outside world - it
:05:54. > :06:04.seems to be interest interested in obtaining the natural resources of
:06:04. > :06:08.Asia, of Africa, of Latin America without any great concern for the
:06:09. > :06:18.ecological damage that this may do. Is that a fair accusation to make
:06:18. > :06:24.against China? We think that this is a completely mistaken concept, which
:06:24. > :06:30.is mis-gided. The co-operate between China and
:06:30. > :06:36.Latin American countries is beneficial. We build basic
:06:36. > :06:41.infrastructures together with our African friends. We do constructions
:06:41. > :06:47.there what we encourage is very strict.
:06:47. > :06:52.Relationships between China and Britain often seem strain strained
:06:52. > :06:56.over the years. At the moment, they seem particularly strained and not
:06:56. > :07:03.as warm address we might have expected. Why -- as we might have
:07:03. > :07:08.expected. Why is that? When China and UK relations are up and down
:07:08. > :07:13.that is when relationship fails to be upheld, especially the core
:07:13. > :07:19.interests of each other. The bilateral relationship is often
:07:19. > :07:23.damaged during these times. The development of bilateral relations
:07:23. > :07:28.between China and the UK should be based on the mutual trust of each
:07:28. > :07:33.other. This is the political basis for political developments between
:07:33. > :07:38.each side. Crow are really talking about the meet -- You are really
:07:38. > :07:43.talking about the meeting that David Cameron had with the dally llama?
:07:43. > :07:50.When it comes to issues that concern the core interests of China, the
:07:50. > :07:54.Chinese Government must respond to the strong calls of Chinese people.
:07:54. > :07:58.We hope that foreign Governments can respect the feelings of Chinese
:07:58. > :08:04.people and understand the wish of Chinese people.
:08:04. > :08:10.Do you expect that relations with Britain will be warmer now that
:08:10. > :08:13.there's a new leadership in China? China-UK relations have had a solid
:08:13. > :08:18.foundation for a healthy development. We hope that both sides
:08:18. > :08:23.can push forward the bilateral relation based on mutual respect. It
:08:23. > :08:27.serves the interests of both sides. It is the hope of the people of both
:08:27. > :08:31.countries. Is that yes or no? I don't understand. I think the most
:08:31. > :08:36.important thing is mutual respect, especially the respect of the core
:08:36. > :08:41.interests of each other. Should the interests of each other. Should the
:08:41. > :08:47.outside world expect Big changes from the Government of the
:08:47. > :08:53.President? We think that China's current Government requires us to
:08:53. > :08:57.remain open and deep in our relationship with the outside world.
:08:57. > :09:01.During the process we hope that China's development can benefit
:09:01. > :09:11.world peace and development. At the same time, world peace and
:09:11. > :09:11.
:09:11. > :09:15.development can support China's long-term development.
:09:15. > :09:23.The Chinese dream is similar. We hope China's development can achieve
:09:23. > :09:28.a win-win result with the world. Afterwards, going through my notes,
:09:28. > :09:33.it seemed to me that in spite of the highly formal way those answers were
:09:33. > :09:36.expressed - well this is China after all - the aim was to show that China
:09:36. > :09:43.does want a new start to its relationship with Britain and the
:09:43. > :09:48.West. Two phrases jump out of it - a win-win result and the Chinese
:09:48. > :09:55.dream. Realising the dream depends on achieving this win-win outcome.
:09:55. > :10:05.So, is China a friend or an enemy? The answer I got here was, let's try
:10:05. > :10:10.
:10:11. > :10:20.This is of course a place of the greatest beauty and historical
:10:20. > :10:25.important. -- importance. Supposing they found oil under city over
:10:26. > :10:32.there, would they extract it? What is relentless in man's drive for
:10:32. > :10:42.development on this tiny planet of ours? Let's hear the views of our
:10:42. > :10:55.
:10:55. > :11:01.The amazing White Cliffs of Dover. An incredible site sight, but more
:11:01. > :11:05.than that, they are a key part of our island story. Everything from
:11:05. > :11:10.wartime defiance to homecoming. I felt that myself when I was posted
:11:10. > :11:20.abroad and came back on the ferry. They are certainly special. You
:11:20. > :11:25.
:11:25. > :11:31.So, no-one would want to touch them, or would they? What if, and this is
:11:31. > :11:38.pure purely hi per thetal, what if there was gold in the cliffs. Worth
:11:38. > :11:43.�1 billion, some might touch it. If the gold was worth �1 trillion, well
:11:43. > :11:48.how sacred would the cliffs look then? I first wondered about what we
:11:48. > :11:55.value and whether everything has a price last year, visiting not the
:11:55. > :12:02.limestone of the white cliffs, but the iron ore of the Amazon. The iron
:12:02. > :12:07.at this vast mine is worth $1 trillion, so the rainforest does not
:12:07. > :12:13.stand a chance. Last year I saw how much of the ocean floor is rich in
:12:13. > :12:16.copper. Worth billions and in big demand. Even the sea bed is not off
:12:16. > :12:21.limits. I am with a man from the National
:12:21. > :12:27.Trust, which owns part of the white cliffs. Does he think they have a
:12:27. > :12:33.price? Would you contemplate a gold mine in the white cliffs? I think
:12:33. > :12:39.after a lot of soul-searching and a lot of internal reflection, and that
:12:39. > :12:43.is a possibility. You would rather there was not gold in the white
:12:43. > :12:48.cliffs? Yes.If there was, would you have to consider getting at it if it
:12:48. > :12:52.was worth �1 trillion? If it was and the receipts came back to the
:12:52. > :12:55.National Trust, then certainly we would want to look at it. We would
:12:55. > :12:59.want to make sure we were not standing in the way of progress. We
:12:59. > :13:09.would want to make sure it was the right progress. Even as someone as
:13:09. > :13:13.
:13:13. > :13:17.sacred as this has a price? I think, So, should anything be sacred? Well,
:13:17. > :13:22.attitudes keep changing according to the times. In 1971, there was a plan
:13:23. > :13:28.to build a multi-storey car park here. Car was king. Economic
:13:28. > :13:33.development was the priority. Then, one man said, hang on, there is
:13:33. > :13:43.something more precious. If you go ahead, you risk losing something
:13:43. > :13:44.
:13:44. > :13:50.extremely valuable right here. Brain Filp. He rescued the only
:13:50. > :13:54.Roman house with painted walls this side of the Alps. Worth saving?
:13:54. > :13:57.Previous generations just destroyed Previous generations just destroyed
:13:57. > :14:02.this kind of thing. They said You cannot compromise with the car.
:14:02. > :14:07.was it like for you? Just wait and see! You must have faced some stiff
:14:07. > :14:13.opposition? That has been my career for over 40 years. Hostility?Yes.
:14:13. > :14:17.We have had quite a few battles. Hate mail? No. Physical violence.
:14:18. > :14:23.Against you for trying to save this. For saving sites like this
:14:23. > :14:30.elsewhere. Above Dover, the western height heights fortress, the largest
:14:30. > :14:37.of its kind in England, built in resist nap poll Leon. It has been
:14:37. > :14:40.neglected for years. This, in England, has to be the most
:14:40. > :14:45.important single military site because it is unique. There is
:14:45. > :14:51.nothing else like it. In exchange for �5 million to do this place up,
:14:51. > :14:56.the developers get to build a hotel very close by and 500 houses. A
:14:57. > :15:03.compromise by the Government's own advisers. It is an enormous project
:15:03. > :15:09.and actually rather vivid coming in here and smelling the damp. A huge
:15:09. > :15:16.task to revive it. Purists, in the conservation movements would say you
:15:16. > :15:19.are supping the devil by taking �5 million from a developer. It is the
:15:19. > :15:23.modern approach, that we have to be more pragmatic than in the past.
:15:23. > :15:28.There is little money going around. Certainly on that sort of a scale.
:15:28. > :15:32.You would not get the money from any one else? There is no-one else we
:15:32. > :15:38.can get the money to make the slightest difference to a place on
:15:38. > :15:44.this scale. Just up the road, I am in what has been declared an area of
:15:44. > :15:48.outstanding natural beauty. Hillary shows me where the 500 new houses
:15:48. > :15:52.will go. It is a deal too far, she says.
:15:52. > :15:57.Dover has been at the forefront of so many battles through the years.
:15:57. > :16:07.This is a designated area that should never, ever be built on,
:16:07. > :16:10.
:16:10. > :16:15.other than in absolutely appropriate Here at the foot of the white cliffs
:16:15. > :16:19.this nature reserve looks like it has been here for years. In fact, it
:16:20. > :16:24.is built on spoil from when they dug out the channel tunnel. At the time
:16:25. > :16:30.it was met with fierce opposition. Now, 100,000 people enjoy this place
:16:30. > :16:33.every year. So, develop or save? A difficult
:16:33. > :16:37.balance becoming harder as the population grows.
:16:37. > :16:42.Defining what is sacred has never been so contentious.
:16:42. > :16:52.Oh, and in case you are wondering, there is not any gold in the white
:16:52. > :16:57.
:16:57. > :17:05.I think this is one of the nicest places in the whole of Beijing. It
:17:05. > :17:11.is called Unity Lake. A little oasis of peace and calm and beauty.
:17:11. > :17:17.So much of the world is highly pressurised nowadays. Can it really
:17:18. > :17:27.be good for us? Our contributing editor wonders whether modern life
:17:28. > :17:38.
:17:39. > :17:43.ALARM OK, come on breakfast. Quick! Get
:17:43. > :17:48.the milk! Come on! We are quite late. Mine is
:17:48. > :17:53.an all or nothing life, conducted at speed. I never have much time to
:17:53. > :17:58.chat to neighbours. I don't have time to sit in the local cafe and
:17:58. > :18:02.never get enough sleep. My jam-packed life is not untypical.
:18:02. > :18:06.The majority of us complain about too much work and a lack of time,
:18:06. > :18:10.being constantly on the go has become the norm! We are working on
:18:10. > :18:15.average an hour or two less than we used to 40 years ago. It does not
:18:15. > :18:25.feel that way. We can work more flexibly now, thanks to Internet and
:18:25. > :18:33.
:18:33. > :18:36.e-mail. It means we are never off I am not complaining. I have had
:18:36. > :18:42.great opportunities that maybe as a woman I would not have had 50 years
:18:42. > :18:49.ago. I value having a role in a wider spear than just the home. Is a
:18:49. > :18:55.life led at this pace healthy? So many people complain about feeling
:18:55. > :19:02.anxious and stressed. I know myself can get impatient and intolerant
:19:02. > :19:07.sometimes. This is what you need to do - maybe not!
:19:07. > :19:15.I overheard what you were saying. I think I can help. You need a slow
:19:15. > :19:19.makeover. OK. Show me how. How come we are on the ice? I thought we
:19:19. > :19:23.should be calming down. I love speed. There are times when speed is
:19:23. > :19:30.what you want. Being on the ice is one of those times. You have to cut
:19:30. > :19:35.lose and enjoy going fast. So my timetable is jam-packed. How would y
:19:35. > :19:39.advise me to slow down? For most of us, do less. We are trying to do too
:19:39. > :19:44.many things. Line up what you have for a week and cut from the bottom,
:19:44. > :19:51.from what is least important. Switch off the gadgets. Turn off the Wi-Fi
:19:51. > :19:55.and have moments to recharge. Get away from that distraction. I am
:19:55. > :20:00.halfway towards a new me. I am curious to know what life might be
:20:00. > :20:10.like in a place where modern life is not killing people, where things are
:20:10. > :20:12.
:20:12. > :20:16.It may surprise fans of The Killing and The Bridge, but a major
:20:16. > :20:21.international survey has Denmark scoring highest on the happiness
:20:21. > :20:25.index. Perhaps it is all the top drama they consume. Maybe they could
:20:25. > :20:29.teach me a thing or two about slowing down.
:20:29. > :20:34.So, why isn't modern life killing the Danes. It is not because they
:20:34. > :20:39.are all so happy. Well, they work on average fewer hours than we do. They
:20:39. > :20:43.earn less than we do too. A lower proportion work very long hours. Is
:20:43. > :20:47.that it then? Work less? How do they get on in life? Aren't they
:20:47. > :20:52.ambitious for more? They are ambitious, but they don't
:20:52. > :20:56.like to show the ambition. They like to succeed, but not in public.
:20:56. > :21:03.see! You can have relations with people who are very different from
:21:03. > :21:07.yourself. So, you play golf with a dustman or you are in a tennis club
:21:07. > :21:13.with someone living a different life to you. People don't take it
:21:13. > :21:23.seriously. You accept different lifestyles. There's no right or
:21:23. > :21:26.
:21:26. > :21:31.wrong life. You can choose a life Say goodbye. Phil and Tanya know all
:21:31. > :21:38.about choices. He is British, she is Danish and their life with their
:21:38. > :21:42.toddler is different from mine. the UK, I was really working
:21:42. > :21:46.extremely long hours and also the commute was taking me a lot of time
:21:46. > :21:53.during the week, which meant if we based our family there, I would
:21:53. > :21:59.really have had limited opportunity to see my wife and charily and she
:21:59. > :22:02.would have -- Charlie and she would have to have the task of bringing up
:22:02. > :22:07.the family. Perhaps the measures are different to London and there is
:22:07. > :22:14.less focus on money, status and what sort of house you live in. It is
:22:14. > :22:20.lovely. Thank you very much. I will see you tonight. Goodbye.
:22:20. > :22:25.Family life is very healthy in Denmark. Most of the women work.
:22:25. > :22:31.Those with small children compete to pick them up early from nursery so
:22:31. > :22:35.they can spend quality time with them in the afternoon.
:22:35. > :22:41.Danes seem more contented than the British. Material wealth or at least
:22:41. > :22:48.flaunting it is not so important. You don't see so often fancy cars.
:22:48. > :22:52.Because they work shorter hours they are at home and can socialise
:22:52. > :22:58.mid-week. It is Phil's birthday. I have been invited to the
:22:58. > :23:05.celebration. Hi. Happy birthday. Thank you for inviting me. This
:23:05. > :23:11.looks love lovely. Do you want some champagne? Go on. I am slowing down.
:23:11. > :23:15.I think modern life in the UK is sort of killing us slowly really. It
:23:15. > :23:24.is so stressful. Is your life here killing you?
:23:24. > :23:30.Not mine. I see those people walking home with
:23:30. > :23:35.the prams and they are walking chatting. That makes me happy to see
:23:35. > :23:41.people have their time together. It is really important.
:23:41. > :23:48.Could I live in a society like Denmark? Sure. Could I live a less
:23:48. > :23:53.killing life in the UK? Tricky, given that everyone is intent on
:23:53. > :23:59.achievement. In the rat life it is possible to learn the face. The pace
:23:59. > :24:09.of live is overwhelming sometimes. My own personal fight back has
:24:09. > :24:13.
:24:13. > :24:17.The famous bird's nest stadium from, the huge hugely successful Beijing
:24:18. > :24:26.Olympics. One sport that has only once been seen at the Olympics is
:24:26. > :24:32.cricket, back in 19 oh 00. -- 1900. Maybe it is not surprising given a
:24:32. > :24:36.traditional, international Test match takes five self-indulgent days
:24:36. > :24:43.to play out. Can something like that really survive in today's fast-paced
:24:43. > :24:48.world? Does Test Cricket have any future at all? Something for David
:24:48. > :24:53.Bond, our sports editor, to consider. It is a classic English
:24:53. > :24:57.scene. Played out on village greens across the country every summer
:24:57. > :25:07.weekend. Cricket has always treasured its traditions and
:25:07. > :25:08.
:25:08. > :25:12.history. The winds of change are Cricket has been played here at
:25:12. > :25:15.Sheffield Park since 1845. Back in the late Victorian era it hosted
:25:15. > :25:22.international matches. The Australians played here then. These
:25:22. > :25:26.days it is used by club cricketers T common theme, the common ambition
:25:26. > :25:33.for anyone to play this sport is to dream of Test Cricket. That was
:25:33. > :25:37.always my dream, ever since I started to play this game as a kid.
:25:37. > :25:42.Unfortunately my talent didn't quite match the ambition.
:25:42. > :25:47.It might seem odd to be posing a question about the state of Test
:25:47. > :25:52.Cricket in the middle of an Ashes summer T oldest rivalry in the sport
:25:52. > :25:56.is still a big draw. The popularity and success of these dramatic
:25:56. > :26:01.matches underline the indifference to the five-day game in other
:26:01. > :26:05.countries. Nowhere has been more indifferent
:26:05. > :26:09.than India. The game's financial and political powerhouse.
:26:09. > :26:16.Here, the Indian Premier League calls the shots. Packing stadiums
:26:16. > :26:26.with a newer, shorter version. 20 over cricket or T 20 always has a
:26:26. > :26:26.
:26:26. > :26:31.result and is over in about three India's passion for the game is
:26:31. > :26:36.beyond doubt. Here at the Oval, fans have turned out in huge numbers to
:26:36. > :26:43.watch their heroes play. But that is not always the case
:26:43. > :26:49.these days for Tests back home. So, what format do these supporters
:26:49. > :26:56.prefer? T20.Why? It is short and very exciting. Would you go and
:26:56. > :27:05.watch a Test match? No. Not me. Test is cricket. T20 is more fun. It
:27:05. > :27:10.is more of a crowd-puller. T20. Why?Action, result. I like
:27:10. > :27:17.Test Cricket. You don't like the T20?
:27:17. > :27:24.He likes the cricket. He doesn't understand toofrp about
:27:24. > :27:29.cricket Twenty20 or Test Cricket. The absence of a consensus shows the
:27:29. > :27:36.problem for the game. It is not just in India. South Africa, New Zealand
:27:36. > :27:42.and Sri Lanka have all seen a decline in Test match attendances.
:27:42. > :27:48.Taunton has been graced by some of the finest Test players. Botham,
:27:48. > :27:54.Richards and Garner, just three of the names from the glorious past.
:27:54. > :28:01.The current crop of players face a dilemma they never faced - whether
:28:01. > :28:07.to goer Test Cricket or the cash -- to go for Test Cricket or the cash
:28:07. > :28:12.of T20. It is a debate dividing dressing rooms around the world.
:28:12. > :28:19.goal, as an early kid, was to play for England. That is what I wanted
:28:19. > :28:23.to do. I am cloudy because I came out the back end of the T20. It was
:28:23. > :28:28.never an issue for me. Maybe now this is a question for the young
:28:28. > :28:33.kids. You talk about your boy wants to play Twenty20 cricket and that is
:28:33. > :28:39.all he wants to do. He has no interest in hitting the boy with a
:28:39. > :28:43.high elbow. He is nine. He wants to be doing the reverse sweeps. Why is
:28:43. > :28:48.there a problem with that? There is not a problem. I don't understand
:28:48. > :28:53.why it is a problem if someone wants to play Twenty20 cricket around the
:28:53. > :28:56.world and earn money. I don't see an issue. It is easier for guys to sit
:28:56. > :29:00.behind a computer and criticise that. When someone gets an
:29:00. > :29:06.opportunity, it is their life, their career. It is no-one else's.
:29:06. > :29:09.The challenge for those who run the sport is to find a way of making
:29:09. > :29:15.Test Cricket more rewarding for future generations of players and
:29:15. > :29:20.plans. Night-time tests with pink balls is one of the more radical
:29:20. > :29:25.options. From 2017, the four best countries will play each other in a
:29:25. > :29:29.new world Test championship. The International Cricket Council knows
:29:29. > :29:33.it has to do something. How much of a problem do you think Test Cricket
:29:33. > :29:40.has? I am optimistic about the future of Test Cricket. The majority
:29:40. > :29:45.of the current players certainly still view succeeding in their
:29:45. > :29:53.careers at Test level as the ultimate objective. Yes, maybe