:00:10. > :00:16.Some viewers may find some stories distressing.
:00:16. > :00:21.It is 8am and a quiet suburb of Sydney. Inside this house is a
:00:21. > :00:26.former Catholic monk, a man with secrets. We are keeping a watching
:00:26. > :00:31.brief on his house, because we suspect that now that he knows that
:00:32. > :00:38.we are here, he might suddenly disappear, be spirited away. So who
:00:38. > :00:42.is this man and what has he done? Tonight, the inside story of one of
:00:42. > :00:46.Scotland's most prestigious Catholic boarding schools. I think
:00:46. > :00:50.I was being groomed. Why would somebody treat you horrendously and
:00:50. > :00:57.then for no reason all of a sudden start cuddling you and kissing you?
:00:57. > :01:03.Speaking out for the first time, the boys who were abused by
:01:03. > :01:09.paedophile monks. He raped you? Yes.Physical and
:01:09. > :01:17.sexual abuse that spanned decades and was covered up. I am sorry that
:01:17. > :01:21.it happened. It shouldn't have happened. BBC Scotland Investigates,
:01:21. > :01:31.Fort Augustus Abbey, the holy men who ran it and those who turned a
:01:31. > :01:42.
:01:42. > :01:52.This Benedictine abbey runs a school, drawing its pupils from all
:01:52. > :01:56.
:01:56. > :02:01.For more than a century, Fort Augustus Abbey was home to monks
:02:02. > :02:07.from the Benedictine congregation, one of the most referred religious
:02:07. > :02:11.orders in the Catholic Church. One of the country's top clergy said
:02:11. > :02:15.the Abbey school had profounding influenced the Catholic Church in
:02:15. > :02:20.Scotland. The Abbey and school have been closed since the 1990s. Why am
:02:20. > :02:27.I here? Because this place has yet to give up its secrets. Dark
:02:27. > :02:31.secrets. Hidden away for decades. It is a story which would take me
:02:31. > :02:37.half way across the world. But it starts in Somerset. Downside Abbey
:02:37. > :02:40.is one of six Benedictine monasteries in England which ran
:02:40. > :02:45.prestigious schools. Holy men who dressed in robes and tassels lived
:02:45. > :02:55.in the abbeys and taught in the schools. But some had criminal
:02:55. > :03:02.
:03:02. > :03:06.This is former downside pupil Rob Hastings. When he was 12, a monk
:03:06. > :03:12.called Richard White took an unhealthy interest in him.
:03:12. > :03:18.started off with me, you know, looking at books, maps, having his
:03:18. > :03:28.arm round me, having some form of physical contact. Sitting on his
:03:28. > :03:30.
:03:30. > :03:37.lap. Him putting his hands on me, playing with my... Front genitalia
:03:37. > :03:44.for want of another word, to me with his. Him climaxing, to him
:03:44. > :03:50.then penetrating me and abusing me from behind. The abuse continued
:03:50. > :03:55.for more than 18 months. He became more and more confident and took
:03:56. > :03:59.more and more from me. Rob wasn't the first boy boy White had abused.
:03:59. > :04:05.Complaints had been made by another boy months earlier. But White had
:04:05. > :04:12.been allowed to continue teaching children. The Abbott and headmaster
:04:12. > :04:20.both new White had abused this child prior to me. The sole
:04:20. > :04:24.response to the situation was to move me, for him to be moved, for
:04:25. > :04:32.there to be very little knowledge of what happened. The whole thing
:04:32. > :04:42.was put away. No police, no reporting, no authorities, no
:04:42. > :04:46.nothing, no psychiatrists, no conversation. No nothing. It would
:04:46. > :04:55.be two decades before White was finally brought to justice. Last
:04:55. > :05:00.year he was sentenced to five years in prison. White wasn't the only
:05:00. > :05:07.jailed monk. Father Paul from Buckfast Abbey sentenced to ten
:05:07. > :05:12.years in jail for abusing six boys. Father Gregory Carroll was jailed
:05:12. > :05:16.for four years. Father David Pearce, jailed for eight years, from Ealing
:05:16. > :05:23.Abbey. In fact, most Benedictine abbey
:05:23. > :05:27.schools in England have been mired in paedophile scandals. But not for
:05:27. > :05:33.-- Fort Augustus in Scotland until now. For this investigation, we
:05:33. > :05:37.have spoken to more than 50 former pupils. Many of those old boys tell
:05:37. > :05:41.us they have nothing but fond memories of what was one of
:05:41. > :05:48.Scotland's top Catholic boarding schools. A reputation, therefore,
:05:48. > :05:56.to be proud of. Perhaps, even, to protect. I am travelling to meet
:05:56. > :06:01.two brothers who have very different stories to tell. David
:06:01. > :06:05.and Christopher Walls attended Carlekempe in North Berwick in the
:06:05. > :06:11.1950s, which was the prep school for Fort Augustus and staffed
:06:11. > :06:19.mostly by the same monks. This class photo was taken at Carlekempe
:06:19. > :06:24.around 1957. This is David, aged 11. And Christopher, aged 10. They have
:06:24. > :06:32.never spoken publicly about their experiences. I can remember the
:06:32. > :06:37.first time he beat me. He asked a question and I put up my hand,
:06:37. > :06:46.please father, please, I know the right answer, you know. I was wrong.
:06:46. > :06:52.Suddenly he descended on me with this swagger stick, a cane, about
:06:52. > :07:02.that long, you know. He whacked me with that stick. On the shoulders.
:07:02. > :07:02.
:07:03. > :07:09.On my upper arms. On my buttocks, legs. Christopher's tormentor was
:07:09. > :07:14.Father Aidan Duggan, an Australian Benedictine monk. How did you feel
:07:14. > :07:20.that first time that you were beaten? Just stunned. Just stunned.
:07:20. > :07:24.I had never seen a grown up behaving like this. The broteders
:07:24. > :07:29.en-- brothers endured almost daily beatings from Duggan. So did their
:07:29. > :07:37.classmates. When the priests say mass they have a girdle which is a
:07:37. > :07:44.bit of rope really. The end has a tassel on it and the tassel, trs a
:07:45. > :07:52.lump of wood. The boy was cowering in the fireplace. He was thrashing
:07:52. > :07:59.him with this girdle. I can remember feeling really sick, it
:07:59. > :08:06.was brutal, horrendous. Boys as young as seven living in constant
:08:06. > :08:10.fear of the holy men charged with their care. They all had their own
:08:10. > :08:19.different style of delivering corporal punishment. Gregory Brusey
:08:19. > :08:23.rapped me across the knuckles. He drew blood. I don't know what I
:08:23. > :08:30.thought about the beatings. I didn't think he was saving me from
:08:30. > :08:36.hell. Don't talk to me about hell, I've been there, teas Carlekempe.
:08:36. > :08:41.Another monk, Edward Delepine was said to be particularly harsh.
:08:41. > :08:48.was physically very, very abusive. He used to come down round the
:08:48. > :08:54.dormitories with a cane and thrash entire dormitories in their pyjamas.
:08:54. > :09:00.He went round in his stockings soles so you couldn't here him
:09:00. > :09:09.coming. Suddenly the door would open as soon as somebody whispered.
:09:09. > :09:14.It was everybody. The whole dormitory got thrashed. I can
:09:14. > :09:19.remember feeling a lump that size, the sis of my -- size of my finger
:09:19. > :09:29.on my backside after being thrashed with that. You would get two, three,
:09:29. > :09:32.
:09:32. > :09:36.Of course attitudes to corporal punishment today are very different
:09:36. > :09:41.from those more than half a century ago. But some of the boys that we
:09:41. > :09:46.have spoken to have described a culture of fear and intimidation,
:09:46. > :09:53.where monks would often punish trivial offences with excessive and
:09:53. > :09:57.sometimes sadistic levels of violence.
:09:57. > :10:02.I was eight, Father John McBride told me to Neil down in the
:10:02. > :10:08.corridor and not move. I was there from 9.00 until 4.00 in the morning,
:10:08. > :10:15.because someone had been talking after lights out. Father Mark
:10:15. > :10:19.Dilworth beat me four times on the backside with his cane. I had four
:10:19. > :10:29.thick black lines Chris crossing my buttocks. Four weeks later the
:10:29. > :10:32.marks were still there. I was 12 and it was for talking.
:10:32. > :10:39.Sometimes pyjamas were allowed but very often you would be bufrned on
:10:39. > :10:42.the bare -- birched on the barebackside. One of my classmates
:10:42. > :10:46.received ten strokes on the barebackside. He couldn't sit down
:10:46. > :10:53.for days. With Aidan Duggan the beatings of the younger boys seemed
:10:53. > :10:59.to have a sinister purpose. I think I was being groomed. Why would
:10:59. > :11:06.somebody treat you horrendously and then for no reason, all of a sudden,
:11:06. > :11:12.start cuddling you and and kissing you. I got a hug and a cuddle and I
:11:12. > :11:18.was on my knees getting the blessing, he gave me the blessing
:11:18. > :11:22.and then cuddled me against himself. He put his hand on your head and
:11:22. > :11:27.jam your face into his groin. It didn't connect with anything
:11:27. > :11:33.sinister for me. I was just concerned that he wasn't hitting me.
:11:33. > :11:41.The beatings stopped and sarcasm and making a fool of you, that all
:11:41. > :11:49.stopped. Once the cuddling started. It was a huge relief. You
:11:50. > :11:53.definitely felt this sense of gratitude almost. Duggan's
:11:53. > :11:57.behaviour escalated. He started abusing the boys in the
:11:57. > :12:03.confessional box. Boys were coming out from confession and someone
:12:03. > :12:07.said "He gave me a soppy kiss", and in I went, I was confessing to him,
:12:07. > :12:12.bless me father for I have sinned, it has been one week since my last
:12:12. > :12:21.confession and these are my sins, he put his hands down the back of
:12:21. > :12:26.my trousers and was feeling round my bum. Then round the front, and
:12:27. > :12:35.feeling round my willy and stuff, and I thought this is really odd
:12:35. > :12:39.and I was shocked by that. It wasn't until later that I came out
:12:39. > :12:42.of the place and I twigged that is what it was all about, all the
:12:42. > :12:50.beatings and all that was about this. I used to play the recording
:12:50. > :12:55.and he asked me up to his room to practise a duet. He made me sit on
:12:55. > :13:05.the bed. He sat on the bed beside me and he never picked up his
:13:05. > :13:06.
:13:06. > :13:15.recorder. All I remember, I have a blank about what happened, all I
:13:15. > :13:25.remember is running down the corridor and just in a terrible
:13:25. > :13:27.
:13:27. > :13:37.state, tears, and to this day, I can't remember what happened. Sorry,
:13:37. > :13:43.
:13:43. > :13:51.The Walls brothers made a firm friend in Hugh Shannon. He, too,
:13:51. > :13:55.had come to the attention of Aidan Duggan. Hugh now has Alzheimer's.
:13:55. > :14:02.His wife, Ann, knows all about his school years. I am doing the
:14:02. > :14:06.interview today because I feel Hugh needs a voice. And he's now a
:14:06. > :14:14.vulnerable adult. He was a vulnerable boy and now he is a
:14:14. > :14:24.vulnerable adult. He has a right to be heard. It was Aidan Duggan was
:14:24. > :14:29.
:14:29. > :14:33.mentioned the most. It was in bed at night, the stories. Trying to
:14:33. > :14:41.avoid being the one. Duggan touched them up, put his hand under the bed
:14:41. > :14:45.clothes when he was telling them a story. And it was so bewildering
:14:45. > :14:52.and shocking that they didn't tell anybody. There was a part of them
:14:52. > :14:59.embarrassed by it. He has a photograph of him in his uniform,
:14:59. > :15:09.he couldn't look at T He said that is sad, look at those sad eyes.
:15:09. > :15:11.
:15:11. > :15:17.That little boy doesn't know what We obtained evidence of another
:15:17. > :15:22.case of serious sexual abuse here at Carlekempe in the 1960s. This
:15:22. > :15:27.time by a different monk, Father John McBride. His victim is now no
:15:27. > :15:30.longer able to tell his own story, but we have independently
:15:30. > :15:34.corroborated his account. The sexual abuse took place over a
:15:34. > :15:39.period of months within an isolated area of the school, it was
:15:39. > :15:42.apparently where the bad boys were sent. This boy eventually
:15:42. > :15:46.complained to his parents. The parents took the complaint to the
:15:46. > :15:52.school. But the monks didn't believe the boy and the school
:15:52. > :15:58.labelled him a troublemaker. When boys finish the at Carlekempe,
:15:58. > :16:03.they moved on to Fort Augustus. Perched on the remote shores of
:16:03. > :16:08.Loch Ness, the prestigous abbey school was the jewel in the
:16:08. > :16:12.education crown of the abbey church in Scotland. Mass and prayers were
:16:12. > :16:15.combined with class work as part of the daily routine. Like most
:16:15. > :16:20.private boarding schools there was a hierarchy, where older boys
:16:20. > :16:30.enjoyed status and power over over those younger, bullying was part of
:16:30. > :16:32.
:16:32. > :16:41.You got caned for poor work. You would line up after lunch outside
:16:41. > :16:51.his office, one boy after another, sex strokes each -- sex - six
:16:51. > :16:56.
:16:56. > :17:04.strokes each. Father Mark Dilworth was fond of the birch.
:17:04. > :17:14.I got four strokes with a leather strap for sucking a sweet.
:17:14. > :17:14.
:17:14. > :17:20.I was 13. One boy was getting a hammering by
:17:20. > :17:26.older boys, he was on the ground and and they were kicking him. A
:17:26. > :17:34.monk was watching. I didn't understand how a man of God could
:17:34. > :17:41.just stand and watch. Sport had an important place in the ethos of the
:17:41. > :17:47.school and it helped if you could excel. Hugh Shannon certainly did.
:17:47. > :17:57.But his sporting drive had an all tearior purpose. He quickly
:17:57. > :17:58.
:17:58. > :18:04.realised if he was going to survive this was the way. It was used as an
:18:04. > :18:13.escape for Hugh? Totally. If you weren't in sport, you were just
:18:13. > :18:23.prey to all sorts of things. It was a whole culture. That if you didn't
:18:23. > :18:25.
:18:25. > :18:30.buy into it, your life life We know that monks moved back and
:18:30. > :18:33.forth from Carlekempe and Fort Augustus as the need arrows. That
:18:33. > :18:42.was Hugh Shannon's fear after his experience with Aidan Duggan. I was
:18:42. > :18:46.managed to get my hands on school magazines, the Corbie. They have
:18:46. > :18:51.allowed us to pin point exactly what was where and when and I have
:18:51. > :18:55.learned that Aidan Duggan returned to Fort Augustus in 1960. The
:18:55. > :19:05.following year, amongst the new recruits being welcomed to the
:19:05. > :19:06.
:19:06. > :19:11.school, was one DA Macleod. 50 years on, DA Macleod, like many
:19:11. > :19:17.of the old boys who have helped us in this investigation, for Donald
:19:17. > :19:21.it seemed the right time to speak out. I was sent from Australia to
:19:21. > :19:27.Fort Augustus and I don't suppose you could be sent much further away.
:19:27. > :19:34.I just felt very, very lonely. 14, Donald had a keen keen interest
:19:34. > :19:39.in photography and playing the piano. Aidan Duggan offered lessons.
:19:39. > :19:44.What do you remember about those sessions? I wasn't very good and in
:19:44. > :19:51.retrospect now, I remember we would be very close together and he was
:19:51. > :19:56.friendly. He would put his hands on my knee, which at the time I
:19:56. > :20:06.thought was rather nice, being friendly. Donald was being groomed.
:20:06. > :20:09.
:20:09. > :20:14.Duggan then offered to help with the photography. I was doing things,
:20:14. > :20:22.he asked me to pick up a bottle of some sort of fluid for developing,
:20:22. > :20:30.I forget what it was. He was under the French, I was bending down, he
:20:30. > :20:37.was behind me, he pulled my trousers down and then it was sort
:20:37. > :20:47.of quite horrible, I don't don't remember, but it was painful.
:20:47. > :21:14.
:21:14. > :21:20.He left and I pulled up my trousers. He took my camera. Later on I went
:21:20. > :21:23.to the clock tower and threw my camera out and smashed it, because
:21:23. > :21:30.I thought the camera was responsible for it, I didn't want
:21:31. > :21:35.to do camera work any more. Donald, what made the abuse even
:21:35. > :21:45.worse was that nobody would believe the word of a home sick boy over a
:21:45. > :21:45.
:21:45. > :21:55.holy man. I was Called into the headmaster's office and he said
:21:55. > :22:03.that I had been telling my parents about Aidan. And that I shouldn't
:22:03. > :22:08.tell these lies. It was a mortal sin to lie about things like that.
:22:08. > :22:15.If you commit mortal sin you will go to hell, I remember him saying
:22:15. > :22:19.that. Augustine Grene was the headmaster and appears to have done
:22:19. > :22:24.nothing. It was the fear of not being believed that prevented
:22:24. > :22:30.Duggan's earlier victims from speaking out. I should have had the
:22:30. > :22:40.wits to complain about it at the time. I accuse myself of that.
:22:40. > :22:42.
:22:42. > :22:52.Often. What we found out about Father Aidan in the years after
:22:52. > :23:10.
:23:10. > :23:14.that is that Father Aidan was a... These men will never see true
:23:14. > :23:20.justice. Aidan Duggan was now dead. But they at least wanted to know
:23:20. > :23:27.why he was allowed to do what he did. This would be my task and I
:23:27. > :23:32.knew exactly where to start. I had heard of a second Australian monk
:23:32. > :23:36.who was at Fort Augustus beside Aidan Duggan. But I knew nothing
:23:36. > :23:40.about him and didn't even know what he looked like. I started to trawl
:23:40. > :23:47.the local newspapers for articles about the Abbey. And found a vital
:23:47. > :23:55.clue. The Australian piping monk. Father Chrysostom Alexander had
:23:56. > :23:59.been a teacher at Fort Augustus up until 1977. Then addrupting disa--
:23:59. > :24:02.abrubting disappeared back to Australia apparently for family
:24:02. > :24:09.reasons. I would soon hear there was another reason for his
:24:09. > :24:14.departure. We were contacted about a former pupil who said he had been
:24:14. > :24:19.seriously sexually abused by Chrysostom in the 1970s. He agreed
:24:19. > :24:24.to tell us a story on condition of anonymity. We have reconstructed
:24:24. > :24:29.his interview verbatim. Brendan, not his real name, is played by an
:24:29. > :24:39.actor. When did the sexual abuse involving
:24:39. > :24:39.
:24:39. > :24:49.Father Chrysostom start? I came in September. Started spring to summer.
:24:49. > :24:52.
:24:52. > :25:02.I sat on the setee, and he started to rub me. He started to masturbate
:25:02. > :25:09.
:25:09. > :25:19.me off and then I said something like something's happening, and it
:25:19. > :25:21.
:25:21. > :25:30.was the smell, I had never smelt it before. Then he gave me a blow job.
:25:30. > :25:40.He said to me you are an intelligent boy, and made me give
:25:40. > :25:46.
:25:46. > :25:52.him sex, oral sex. I felt sick. He said to me get out, get out, you
:25:52. > :26:02.little bastard. I thought what have I done, what have I done wrong, I
:26:02. > :26:04.
:26:04. > :26:10.did everything he wanted me to. Get doubt and don't tell nobody.
:26:10. > :26:17.sexual abuse continued until Brendan, who was 13, told his
:26:17. > :26:21.parents, who told the school. The matter was dealt with internally,
:26:21. > :26:27.Chrysostom was sent to Australia. Despite what I was learning about
:26:27. > :26:32.life at that time at Fort Augustus, the monks were happy to have a film
:26:32. > :26:35.crew inside filming them. It allows us to put a face on familiar names.
:26:35. > :26:42.This is Father Gregory Brusey, who Christopher recalls drawing blood
:26:42. > :26:52.from beatings with the ruler. Father Edward Delepine, allegedly
:26:52. > :26:53.
:26:53. > :26:57.one of David's prime tormentors. Father Augustine Grene, who told
:26:57. > :27:02.Donald that his rape allegation was a lie and never reported it to the
:27:02. > :27:06.police. This is Father Francis Davidson, who was headmaster when
:27:06. > :27:11.Chrysostom was allowed to return to Australia instead of being handed
:27:11. > :27:16.to police. Most of the monks we have obtained evidence about are
:27:16. > :27:23.dead. Of those remaining, Father Delepine declined to comment and we
:27:23. > :27:28.will hear from father Davidson later. But I I learned Chrysostom
:27:28. > :27:32.was alive and well in Australia. I wanted to confront him but needed
:27:32. > :27:36.more evidence. Brendan told me his parents had received a letter from
:27:36. > :27:41.Chrysostom. When he read it, he was so angry that he ripped it up into
:27:41. > :27:46.pieces and threw it in the bin. Crucial evidence, apparently
:27:46. > :27:53.destroyed in the heat of the moment. Your father kept this letter for
:27:53. > :28:02.more than 35 years? Yes.Did you know he had put it back together?
:28:02. > :28:11.Not until recently. How did you feel when you saw the letter again?
:28:11. > :28:15.Not so angry. I wasn't going to rip it up this time. I am writing this
:28:15. > :28:19.letter with some consideration to apologise for the events of last
:28:19. > :28:26.terrible. I ask forgiveness, not only for the indents themselves but
:28:26. > :28:31.for the considerable distress it must have caused yourselves...
:28:31. > :28:41.All I can say is that I was under severe strain over the past 18
:28:41. > :28:42.
:28:42. > :28:50.months. One other thing I have done is to offer a nof even that of
:28:50. > :28:55.masses: Novena of masses, lock off. If I do
:28:55. > :29:05.get to confront Father Chrysostom, what would you like me to say to
:29:05. > :29:07.
:29:07. > :29:17.him? I want to know why. Why me? I don't care what what age he is.
:29:17. > :29:25.
:29:25. > :29:29.The long flight to Australia gave me a chance to reflect on what he
:29:29. > :29:39.had found so far. Evidence of brutal corporal punishment and
:29:39. > :29:39.
:29:39. > :29:44.corridors stalked by paedophile Both Chrysostom and Aidan Duggan
:29:44. > :29:49.had returned to Australia in the late 1970s. I had to find out what
:29:49. > :29:59.they had done since then. Had the Australian authorities been warned
:29:59. > :30:01.
:30:01. > :30:06.about them? I landed in Sydney, with the monks
:30:06. > :30:16.victims' words ringing in my ears. I wanted to find and confront
:30:16. > :30:25.
:30:25. > :30:29.Chrysostom. We tracked him down to Who's there? Father Chrysostom?
:30:29. > :30:34.It's Mark Daly, BBC television, I would like to speak to you about
:30:34. > :30:39.allegations that you sexually abused a boy at Fort Augustus.
:30:39. > :30:43.are on my property and you are trespassing, get out of here.
:30:43. > :30:47.The order covered up the allegations and allowed you to
:30:47. > :30:51.leave the Abbey and you returned to Australia. I don't know if you
:30:51. > :30:56.heard me or not, but you are trespassing on my property, get off
:30:56. > :31:03.here and I will I will call the cops. I will leave if you open the
:31:03. > :31:09.door and answer some questions. His victim wondered whether there would
:31:09. > :31:14.be contrition, an apology? There's none of that.
:31:14. > :31:24.I sensed this wouldn't be my last brush with the piping monk. But I
:31:24. > :31:43.
:31:43. > :31:49.needed to find out what he had been doing since he left Scotland.
:31:49. > :31:54.Chrysostom returned to Australia in 1980 and made a priest of the
:31:54. > :32:02.Sydney Archdiocese in 1999. They couldn't give me any other
:32:02. > :32:05.information. The Catholic Church appeared to
:32:05. > :32:08.have so little information about one of its own priests. I would
:32:08. > :32:18.have to find out for myself and start from the beginning. I tried
:32:18. > :32:23.to get some information about a a monk. I would like to know what
:32:23. > :32:33.sort of information you would have in your archives relating to this
:32:33. > :32:36.
:32:36. > :32:41.Thank you very much. I learn that Chrysostom and
:32:41. > :32:49.possibly Duggan are linked to a Benedictine monastery in Western
:32:49. > :32:57.Australia. I understand that Father Chrysostom was a member of the New
:32:57. > :33:06.Norcia order in the '50s and left to join Fort Augustus Benedictine
:33:06. > :33:11.Order in Scotland in the UK. There were slim pickings about
:33:11. > :33:21.these guys on the internet. After all, these were Benedictine monks.
:33:21. > :33:22.
:33:22. > :33:27.Time to revert to more traditional I have started to piece together
:33:27. > :33:34.the jigsaw of the movement of these monks before they arrived at Fort
:33:34. > :33:40.Augustus and here in the 1952 Australia Catholic director I found
:33:40. > :33:46.the very first mention of Aidan Duggan and he was indeed a monk at
:33:46. > :33:51.the New Norcia abbey in Western Australia. We know this is where
:33:51. > :33:59.Chrysostom began his monastic life. This proves the two monks,
:33:59. > :34:04.Chrysostom and Duggan, were at the same place at the same time. I was
:34:04. > :34:11.uncovering more. This is Chrysostom at New Norcia as a novice monk aged
:34:11. > :34:17.17. I discover his novice master was Aidan Duggan. Chrysostom
:34:17. > :34:20.followed Duggan to Scotland in the early 1950s. They were together as
:34:20. > :34:29.monks in Fort Augustus for two decades and he would join Duggan
:34:29. > :34:32.once more in 1980 in Sydney. Then Chrysostom's trail runs cold. From
:34:32. > :34:42.1980 onwards there's no trace of him in the archives. What is he
:34:42. > :34:50.
:34:50. > :34:55.Only one way to find out. I visited or phoned just about every church
:34:55. > :35:03.in the area. I am trying to get some information about a priest
:35:03. > :35:10.that I believe used to operate in your area. It is a father Dennis
:35:10. > :35:18.Chrysostom Alexander. Chrysostom is his holy holy name.
:35:18. > :35:26.Most said they had never heard of Chrysostom.
:35:26. > :35:30.But eventually I found a priest who knew him. He would assist you with
:35:30. > :35:38.children's confessions? Do you know where he might have served in his
:35:38. > :35:42.time? St Mel's. I have been speaking to the house keeper here
:35:42. > :35:47.at St Mel's and she doesn't know Chrysostom directly, she knows of
:35:47. > :35:54.him. She confirmed he was a supply priest here and she checked the
:35:54. > :36:00.registers that were in the house, checked the bap tis mall Reg terse
:36:00. > :36:10.and -- Reggisters and Chrysostom had been doing crit things. He had
:36:10. > :36:14.
:36:14. > :36:19.20 years of access to church. He a- - children. The Benedictines failed
:36:19. > :36:29.to warn them of Chrysostom's offending. Did the same apply to
:36:29. > :36:33.
:36:33. > :36:38.Shortly after returning from Fort Augustus in 1974 Duggan was
:36:38. > :36:47.installed as a priest in a Sydney Parish. It was then he met his next
:36:47. > :36:56.victim. I first met Aidan Duggan when I was 13-years-old. I was an
:36:56. > :37:03.altar boy. He invited me to the presbytery and told me stories
:37:03. > :37:09.about Fort Augustus and the Loch Ness monster. It was so seemles
:37:09. > :37:19.between the grooming and moving on to contact that was of a sexual
:37:19. > :37:21.
:37:21. > :37:30.nature. It progressed very quickly to hugging, cuddling me, kissing me.
:37:30. > :37:40.And then he proceeded to anal penetration. And that would happen
:37:40. > :37:50.
:37:50. > :37:57.on a regular basis. And once it got to that point, I knew that I was in
:37:57. > :38:04.a situation that I didn't want to be in. And I didn't know how to get
:38:04. > :38:07.out of T Years later John got married and became a lawyer. But
:38:07. > :38:17.Duggan was seriously ill by the time he was ready to do anything
:38:17. > :38:18.
:38:18. > :38:25.about his own case. I went to the church. The initial response from
:38:25. > :38:30.the person I spoke to in the Catholic Church was to tell me that
:38:30. > :38:34.I probably would be better off to go away and forget about it. John
:38:34. > :38:39.wasn't prepared to do that. He start today do some research of his
:38:39. > :38:46.own. He contacted the Benedictines in the UK. He asked the Catholic
:38:46. > :38:53.Church in Sydney for help, but got nowhere. Their whole approach had
:38:53. > :39:00.been guided by the facts that Aidan Duggan was a monk, and they
:39:00. > :39:03.considered that he would have been therefore a holy man, and that he
:39:03. > :39:11.couldn't possibly have done the things that were alleged against
:39:11. > :39:16.him. John felt he had no other option. He intended to sue for
:39:16. > :39:20.$100,000, but the church spent seven times that defending the
:39:20. > :39:23.action, arguing it wasn't responsible for Duggan's paedophile
:39:23. > :39:28.behaviour. The church's hard ball tactics succeeded and set a
:39:28. > :39:34.precedent for other abuse victims seeking financial justice. Child
:39:34. > :39:38.abuse victims in Australia can't sue the church as a result of its
:39:38. > :39:46.vigourous defence of your action. As a result of the principle
:39:46. > :39:51.through that vigorous defence, yes. So the church may consider that was
:39:51. > :39:55.three-quarters of a million dollars well spent. We wanted John to hear
:39:55. > :40:00.the testimony of some of Duggan's other victims, including that of
:40:00. > :40:06.Donald, whose rape allegation had never been reported to the police.
:40:06. > :40:14.I was called into the head headmaster's office... He viewed
:40:14. > :40:19.the footage in silence. A lot of my anger in the past has been at him,
:40:19. > :40:22.and at the people here who were responsible for him, if they had
:40:22. > :40:32.asked the questions, they would have known he wasn't a suitable
:40:32. > :40:34.
:40:34. > :40:41.person to take on as a priest. But I think I was just hit by the
:40:41. > :40:48.enormity of it, the Benedictine order in Scotland, over whatever
:40:48. > :40:54.period it was, has just set him loose on the world. It's possible
:40:54. > :41:04.he could have been stopped before he came to Australia. I don't know
:41:04. > :41:15.
:41:15. > :41:22.It's staggering. Just staggering. Aidan Duggan died in 2004, without
:41:22. > :41:27.ever facing the consequences of his actions. But Duggan's legacy
:41:27. > :41:31.continues. John Ellis will give his evidence to the Australian Royal
:41:31. > :41:36.Commission into institutional child abuse later this year. It was
:41:36. > :41:42.nearly time to come home. With only a few hours to spare before the
:41:42. > :41:48.flight, there was some unfinished business to attend to.
:41:48. > :41:52.Can I speak to you please? No. from BBC. I don't care who you are,
:41:52. > :41:56.mate. Just get off my property, or I will call the cops, OK. Do you
:41:56. > :42:03.know why I want to speak to you, I want to speak to you about
:42:04. > :42:10.allegations that you sexually abused a boy... I have to go, mate.
:42:10. > :42:15.You know this boy? The allegation is that you sexually abused him at
:42:15. > :42:19.Fort Augustus in the late 1970s. You were protected by the church,
:42:19. > :42:22.weren't you? You were allowed to leave and come back to Australia,
:42:22. > :42:30.instead of being handed to the police, you were handed a plane
:42:30. > :42:33.ticket. Get off my property, or I will call the cops. I have seen the
:42:33. > :42:37.letter that you wrote to the boy's parents, I have seen the letter
:42:37. > :42:43.where you admitted the incident. This Boy would like to know why you
:42:43. > :42:48.chose him. He would like to know if there were any other victims, was
:42:48. > :42:58.he the only one? Father Chrysostom? Get that thing out of the road.
:42:58. > :43:24.
:43:24. > :43:30.Isn't it time you confronted your For 35 years this man has been
:43:30. > :43:38.running away from his past. Well, at least to some extent today his
:43:38. > :43:48.past caught up with him. He was in no mood to answer questions. He
:43:48. > :43:52.
:43:52. > :43:56.didn't want to know. A man of God? That was no man of God.
:43:56. > :44:00.During the course of our investigation, the church in Sydney
:44:00. > :44:06.stripped Chrysostom of his priestly faculties. The police in Scotland
:44:06. > :44:09.are also investigating. The Sydney disis says it's had no recorded
:44:09. > :44:18.complaints about Chrysostom but we may never know if he continued to
:44:18. > :44:23.abuse. They arrived in Australia with no no warnings. Children were
:44:23. > :44:33.put at risk and some were abused. What possible explanation could
:44:33. > :44:38.
:44:38. > :44:42.This is the most senior Benedictine in the UK, and if anybody should
:44:42. > :44:46.know, it is him, we have made him aware of our allegations. The first
:44:46. > :44:51.thing I want to say is that I am very sorry, very sorry about any
:44:51. > :44:57.abuse that may have been committed at Fort Augustus. Chrysostom was
:44:57. > :45:01.sent to Australia after the most serious allegations of sexual abuse.
:45:01. > :45:08.Catholic Church in Sydney tell me they received no warnings about
:45:08. > :45:13.this man's offending. From Fort Augustus. How can that be possible?
:45:13. > :45:17.That, again, is unacceptable. I am not defending that. Francis
:45:17. > :45:22.Davidson was the headmaster when Chrysostom was sent to Australia.
:45:22. > :45:27.He sent him to Australia, the boy got sent back to school, no police
:45:27. > :45:32.involvement. How could that have happened? All I can say is if that
:45:32. > :45:37.is the case, then that is not acceptable procedure. Have you
:45:37. > :45:45.asked Francis Davidson about this? I am not prepared to talk about
:45:45. > :45:51.specific cases. We asked father Davidson ourselves. In a statement
:45:51. > :45:57.he apologised for any abuse committed by Chrysostom but
:45:57. > :46:01.declined to comment further. We have seen evidence the headmaster
:46:01. > :46:06.ignored allegations of serious sexual abuse about Aidan Duggan.
:46:06. > :46:13.How seriously did you investigate whether there was anything in the
:46:13. > :46:23.archives about Aidan Duggan? Did you look at school records? No, I
:46:23. > :46:25.
:46:25. > :46:29.didn't. The school records are in Edinburgh. I have investigated to
:46:30. > :46:34.see what is in the records, but I haven't looked at the records
:46:34. > :46:38.myself. According to the Abbott President, there was nothing
:46:38. > :46:43.incriminating in Duggan's records, so Donald's complaint was never
:46:43. > :46:47.recorded. We have evidence that the following monks committed physical
:46:47. > :46:57.abuse at Fort Augustus. Father Lawrence Kelly, Father Mark
:46:57. > :47:00.
:47:01. > :47:06.Dilworth, father Edward den pine, father Edward Brucey, Father John
:47:06. > :47:11.mac. The following head masters are alleged to have covered up
:47:11. > :47:19.allegations: father Augustine Grene and Father Francis Davidson. What
:47:19. > :47:24.are you going to do about this? want to wait until I get evidence.
:47:24. > :47:27.The big problem with Fort Augustus, that the school closed 20 years ago,
:47:27. > :47:33.monastery closed 15 years ago, and a lot of the people involved are
:47:33. > :47:39.dead. Under those circumstances, it's going to be very difficult to
:47:39. > :47:46.get answers which are going to satisfy people. The Abbey school
:47:46. > :47:50.closed its doors in 1993. But that's not the end of our story.
:47:50. > :47:55.Remember Rob Hastings, he was abused at Downside Abbey by Richard
:47:55. > :48:00.White. White confessed to the abuse, but instead of getting the police
:48:00. > :48:04.police involved rningts the Benedictines sent him north.
:48:04. > :48:09.Look at this photo from Fort Augustus taken in 1997 to celebrate
:48:09. > :48:14.the Golden Jubilee of Abbott Dilworth, who was alleged to have
:48:14. > :48:19.beaten pupils black and blue. Some of the biggest names in the
:48:19. > :48:23.Scottish Catholic Church are here, Hugh Gilnert, now Bishop of
:48:23. > :48:30.Aberdeen. But amongst them was Richard White. After he confessed,
:48:30. > :48:35.he was sent not to the police, but here. Here he is again with another
:48:35. > :48:40.visiting monk. So why was he in Fort Augustus? Abbott Dilworth was
:48:40. > :48:47.dead, maybe the on ot President would know. When did you visit Fort
:48:47. > :48:53.Augustus. 1997.Who was the Abbott? Mark Dilworth. Did you meet Richard
:48:53. > :48:56.White there? Yes.Did you know he was a paedophile? I knew that
:48:56. > :48:59.allegations had been made against him, serious allegations, yes.
:48:59. > :49:06.Allegations which hadn't been handed to the police? I think
:49:06. > :49:11.that's true. What do you have to say about that? In the first place,
:49:11. > :49:21.it was a mistake. That it wasn't reported to the police. It was
:49:21. > :49:22.
:49:22. > :49:29.wrong. I know that. Was it because the priority was the reputation of
:49:29. > :49:35.the church and the Benedictines, was that the case? I don't think it
:49:35. > :49:42.was the reputation of the church or Benedictines. As I say, I think all
:49:42. > :49:49.sorts of faults are swimming through your mind. In a monastery,
:49:49. > :49:56.he would have what I think you call a circle of support. People who
:49:56. > :49:59.would keep an eye on him. And give him the support he would need to
:49:59. > :50:04.avoid offending. You are talking about a circumstancing of support -
:50:04. > :50:08.- circle of support for the abuser? What about the victims? I am not
:50:08. > :50:11.saying that everything was done well. I wouldn't say they get cast
:50:11. > :50:15.aside, they just get forgotten about, that is the danger. It is
:50:15. > :50:22.not good, I am not saying it is good. I am very sorry it was like
:50:22. > :50:31.that. What about this other visiting monk. Father Paul Moore, a
:50:31. > :50:37.priest from Prestwick. What's he doing there? I met one of his
:50:38. > :50:41.former parishoners. He was a former altar boy. The priest was somebody
:50:41. > :50:47.you looked up to, you trusted, you believed in. You wouldn't think
:50:47. > :50:51.they would do anything wrong. One of my memories was when it was just
:50:51. > :50:58.the two of us on the beach and when we were getting dressed he took an
:50:58. > :51:04.interest in drying me. He got quite aroused by this. He was Drying my
:51:04. > :51:08.back and rubbing his genitals against me. When he climaxed, that
:51:08. > :51:18.is when he stopped. I was quite disturbed by this as a young child
:51:18. > :51:24.
:51:24. > :51:28.and never spoke about it. How old It would be more than 15 years
:51:28. > :51:35.later in 1996 before the allegations finally surfaced. But
:51:35. > :51:38.Tony isn't the only victim we have spoken to. Moore allegedly admitted
:51:38. > :51:45.abusing several young boys. A confession he made to his friend,
:51:45. > :51:49.the then Bishop of Galloway, Maurice Taylor. What did bishop
:51:49. > :51:53.Taylor do with this admission? He didn't go straight to the police
:51:53. > :52:01.but sent him to a clinic for sex offenders in Canada. But that's not
:52:01. > :52:06.what he told everybody. Father Gerard Magee is a Parish priest in
:52:06. > :52:09.Kilwinning. The bishop at the time, bishop Taylor, told us father Moore
:52:10. > :52:13.was going on a Sabbatical for a year to Canada. It became apparent
:52:13. > :52:18.father Moore was actually at a treatment centre because of the
:52:19. > :52:24.allegations that had been made against him. The bishop Taylor had
:52:24. > :52:30.to come clean, as it were, about that, and he went to the Parish in
:52:30. > :52:34.Prestwick where father Moore was and he told the people the truth,
:52:34. > :52:43.that father Moore had confessed to him about child abuse. Does that
:52:43. > :52:49.make you feel ashamed? It does make me ashamed, yes. Not only ashamed
:52:49. > :52:55.of what happened to the children, but what was worse was the cover-up
:52:55. > :53:05.by the hierarchy in the church. put this to bishop Taylor who told
:53:05. > :53:13.
:53:13. > :53:17.But when I told the church's press office I had the evidence to the
:53:17. > :53:25.contrary, hours later they conceded bishop Taylor had told local
:53:25. > :53:31.priests that father Moore was on Sabbatical in Canada. Bishops have
:53:31. > :53:36.bent over backwards in the past to protect the good name of the church,
:53:36. > :53:41.such as it is, and to protect their own credibility, such as that is.
:53:42. > :53:48.But when we are talking about child abuse, you have to ask the question,
:53:48. > :53:55.what is creditable about child abuse? Nothing. Bishop Taylor has
:53:55. > :53:59.now retired, says he did report Moore but it was eight months after
:53:59. > :54:09.he confessed. I asked him why he didn't hand Moore straight to the
:54:09. > :54:22.
:54:22. > :54:26.police. In a statement bishop Bishop Taylor told us he had banned
:54:26. > :54:31.father Moore from ministry because of what he had confessed. But after
:54:31. > :54:35.the Abbey finally closed its doors Father Moore was looking to come
:54:35. > :54:40.back into the fray. Bishop Taylor tried to get him a job saying daily
:54:40. > :54:45.mass for nuns at a nursing home, but the nuns refused. So bishop
:54:45. > :54:50.Taylor wasn't able to get Father Moore a job. As we have seen the
:54:50. > :54:56.Catholic Church in Scotland rarely turns its back on its own. So what
:54:56. > :55:02.did the church do for Father Moore, a self-confessed child abuser. It
:55:02. > :55:09.spent nearly �50,000 on a house for him to live in. So he gets a house
:55:09. > :55:13.and a church pension. What did his victim get from the church?
:55:13. > :55:18.Did the bishop or church ever reach out to you? Not at all, never.
:55:18. > :55:28.Bishop Taylor confirmed the diocese had purchased a house for father
:55:28. > :55:37.
:55:37. > :55:42.These people weren't interested in the victims. They are not
:55:42. > :55:46.interested in the church who were abused. They are more interested in
:55:46. > :55:51.the perpetrators and protecting them and that is why the church has
:55:51. > :55:58.got into such a mess. That is why we are in the situation that we are
:55:58. > :56:01.in today. No charges were ever brought against Moore. He refused
:56:01. > :56:07.an interview and offered a short statement which failed to address
:56:07. > :56:12.questions about being protected by the church. Instead he talked of
:56:12. > :56:17.his regret, if anyone believed his past activities were abusive and
:56:17. > :56:26.that was never his intention. He either wasn't home or wasn't
:56:26. > :56:32.answering when I called. Despite his past admissions, Moore kept
:56:32. > :56:39.good company at Fort Augustus, but who would have known about the real
:56:39. > :56:49.reasons he was there. Abbott Mark Dilworth did. What about the abbeys
:56:49. > :56:54.
:56:54. > :56:57.friends, archbishop Conti. Bishop That was 16th September, we have
:56:57. > :57:02.now established this picture was taken a full two weeks after the
:57:03. > :57:09.story became public, so we asked them again did they know Moore was
:57:09. > :57:14.a child sex offender. Neither was available for further comment.
:57:14. > :57:18.The Paul Moore story is indicative of a shameful period for the
:57:18. > :57:23.Catholic Church. Where its reputation came before the welfare
:57:23. > :57:29.of victims and the safety of church. Fort Augustus Abbey and the secrets
:57:29. > :57:34.it kept is a poignant example of a culture that surely must be
:57:34. > :57:39.consigned to history. The victims of the abbey's abusive monks need
:57:39. > :57:43.it to be so. Whether they are able to hear the
:57:43. > :57:49.apology or whatever, they have a story, and it needs to be heard.
:57:49. > :57:57.And it needs to be recognised. That they suffered. And they didn't do
:57:57. > :58:05.it in vain. I would hope that there is some openness about the thing. I
:58:05. > :58:13.think the Catholic Church has a lot of mending to do. I haven't
:58:13. > :58:17.forgotten and I can't forget. It's been with me for 60 years, it's