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:00:00. > :00:07.Two former intelligence chiefs say Britain's security could be

:00:08. > :00:10.affected by a vote to leave the European Union.

:00:11. > :00:13.The ex heads of MI5 and MI6 say intelligence sharing could be

:00:14. > :00:21.We would not be able to take part in the decisions that

:00:22. > :00:25.frame the sharing of data, which is a crucial part

:00:26. > :00:27.of counterterrorism and counter cyber work that we do

:00:28. > :00:31.We have by far the best and most effective intelligence services

:00:32. > :00:34.in Europe, so there's every reason to suppose that we would be able

:00:35. > :00:40.to negotiate a perfectly satisfactory agreement.

:00:41. > :00:44.The wildfires still raging in western Canada -

:00:45. > :00:47.the authorities say it could take months to bring them under control.

:00:48. > :00:50.And ahead of the opening of the Invictus Games in Florida -

:00:51. > :00:55.Prince Harry speaks frankly about his public and private life

:00:56. > :01:16.Two former heads of Britain's intelligence and security services

:01:17. > :01:20.have said the UK's ability to protect itself could be

:01:21. > :01:23.undermined by a vote to leave the European Union.

:01:24. > :01:30.Sir John Sawers, who stepped down as the head of MI6

:01:31. > :01:33.in 2014, and Lord Evans - who led its domestic counterpart

:01:34. > :01:36.MI5 until three years ago - say a British exit could damage

:01:37. > :01:38.intelligence sharing and destabilise the rest of Europe.

:01:39. > :01:41.But the Vote Leave campaign says the UK would be safer

:01:42. > :01:49.Here's our security correspondent Frank Gardner.

:01:50. > :01:56.Out of the shadows and into the debate, two top former intelligence

:01:57. > :02:04.chiefs said today that Britain is safer off staying in the EU.

:02:05. > :02:11.Jonathan Evans ran MI5, John Sawers ran MI6, so what are arguments? They

:02:12. > :02:15.say sharing data on terror suspects between EU members is vital. If

:02:16. > :02:20.Britain left, it would receive less data. The former MI6 spy chief said

:02:21. > :02:25.England could no longer shape the debate on balancing security

:02:26. > :02:30.unproductive. We have built the structures in the last 30 or 40 we,

:02:31. > :02:35.Britain, have played an important role, making sure the security

:02:36. > :02:39.dimension is properly considered an integrated into the EU decision is

:02:40. > :02:43.taken. If we walk away from it we will lose a lot of those games. That

:02:44. > :02:47.others say cross-border co-operation would continue, even if Britain

:02:48. > :02:53.left. EU governments would still feel morally obliged to pass an

:02:54. > :02:59.intelligence which could save lives and they need British intelligence

:03:00. > :03:03.in turn. But the two former spy chiefs argue EU membership gives us

:03:04. > :03:07.access to passenger records, alerting Britons to suspects before

:03:08. > :03:12.they get here. The European Arrest Warrant has led to over 5000 people

:03:13. > :03:15.being extradited to Europe, and that worries over border controls are

:03:16. > :03:22.except rated since the UK is not part of the Schengen free movement

:03:23. > :03:25.zone. But the leave camp point to extremist like Abu Hamza, it took

:03:26. > :03:30.years to get him out of the country because of European legislation.

:03:31. > :03:35.Another former MI6 chief says Brexit would allow Britain to dump the

:03:36. > :03:39.European Convention on human rights and give it greater control over

:03:40. > :03:43.migrants coming from the continent. A view shared by former Home

:03:44. > :03:48.Secretary. If the Home Secretary can't deport and can't refuse entry

:03:49. > :03:53.to people who are suspected of terrorism, the people of our country

:03:54. > :03:57.are less safe. And that is a direct result of the rulings of the

:03:58. > :04:01.European Court of Justice, by which we are bound as long as we remain

:04:02. > :04:09.members of the European Union. But then there is stability, the former

:04:10. > :04:14.MI6 and MI5 chiefs say the postwar was that it would be in jeopardy if

:04:15. > :04:19.it led to the EU disintegrating. Probably say Britain's security is

:04:20. > :04:22.hitched to Nato, not the EU. The people who work in this building,

:04:23. > :04:29.MI6, and their colleagues down the road at MI5 have been trying not to

:04:30. > :04:33.get torn into the debate on the EU referendum. But John Sawers and Lord

:04:34. > :04:38.Evans both left secret intelligence in the last three years so they are

:04:39. > :04:41.free to speak their minds, and the intervention may have made today

:04:42. > :04:44.makes them probably the most authoritative voices so far in the

:04:45. > :04:51.world of intelligence to express their opinions on whether Britain is

:04:52. > :04:54.safer in or out of the EU. Both men insist their views are independent

:04:55. > :05:00.of Downing Street, but what they have said today will undoubtedly be

:05:01. > :05:01.welcomed by David Cameron and the Remain camp. Frank Gardner, BBC

:05:02. > :05:03.News. One of the leading campaigners

:05:04. > :05:05.for Britain to leave the European Union,

:05:06. > :05:07.the Justice Secretary Michael Gove, has confirmed that he also wants

:05:08. > :05:10.the UK to leave the single market. He said a post Brexit UK should

:05:11. > :05:13.negotiate access to the market, But the Chancellor, George Osborne

:05:14. > :05:18.said leaving the single market would be catastrophic,

:05:19. > :05:31.as our political correspondent Britain's economy and our prosperity

:05:32. > :05:36.up at the heart of the argument over whether we should stay in the EU.

:05:37. > :05:39.Across manufacturing, retail and financial services, how we trade

:05:40. > :05:44.with other countries has an impact on jobs and prices. For those making

:05:45. > :05:49.the case to leave their is one very important question. Do you want us

:05:50. > :05:53.to stay inside the single market, yes or no? No, we should be outside

:05:54. > :05:58.the single market, we should have access to it but we shouldn't be

:05:59. > :06:01.governed by the rules the European Court of Justice impose on us which

:06:02. > :06:05.cost business and restrict freedom. This is how the single market works

:06:06. > :06:09.at the moment. It allows goods, services and money to be bought and

:06:10. > :06:12.sold freely around the European Union, but there are rules which

:06:13. > :06:17.come alongside that. Free movement is one of them, which is why people

:06:18. > :06:21.can come to the UK from all over Europe and lots of Britain's retired

:06:22. > :06:27.to Spain. Remain campaigners think Michael Gove's worked at a

:06:28. > :06:30.significant moment. You just had the leave campaign admit this morning

:06:31. > :06:34.that Britain would leave the single market, the largest free trade area

:06:35. > :06:38.in the world. That would be catastrophic for people's jobs,

:06:39. > :06:43.incomes and livelihoods. Some people might think wrecking the economy is

:06:44. > :06:48.a price worth paying, I absolutely reject that. Lance Foreman, who runs

:06:49. > :06:52.a salmon smoking for Menez London, says small businesses are weighed

:06:53. > :06:57.down by EU red tape. Last year we had to spend thousands of pounds

:06:58. > :07:00.printing new packaging so that a packet of smoked salmon could have a

:07:01. > :07:08.warning sign printed on the back which said contains fish. It is

:07:09. > :07:11.completely mad. It is a huge, huge waste of unnecessary expenditure.

:07:12. > :07:16.Leading business figures insist the existing arrangements we have with

:07:17. > :07:20.the EU are crucial to the UK economy. It is a cloud cuckoo land

:07:21. > :07:24.world to imagine we would be able to have the same trade deals with the

:07:25. > :07:28.European Union having left, than if we stayed in. It is one of the

:07:29. > :07:33.fallacies the vote leave campaign is making. Trade deals are very

:07:34. > :07:37.difficult to do. They take a long time. Part of this EU debate is

:07:38. > :07:41.centred on Britain's sovereignty and place in the world, but the result

:07:42. > :07:44.could hinge on whether people believe that their personal

:07:45. > :07:49.prosperity is at stake, whether that's jobs or the cost of the

:07:50. > :07:52.things that we buy in the shops. The EU campaign will spring back to life

:07:53. > :07:54.this week, with security and living standards the main themes. Micky

:07:55. > :07:56.Young, BBC News. The authorities in Canada

:07:57. > :07:59.are warning that a huge wildfire is still spreading rapidly

:08:00. > :08:01.and could take months Hot, dry and windy conditions

:08:02. > :08:04.are hampering efforts by hundreds 80,000 people have already been

:08:05. > :08:09.evacuated from the town of Fort McMurray -

:08:10. > :08:12.many fleeing south to Edmonton. Our correspondent Laura Bicker

:08:13. > :08:18.reports from the affected area. After the panic and the fear, there

:08:19. > :08:23.is quiet in Fort McMurray, a city They are still fighting

:08:24. > :08:30.to save what they can, but this fire is growing, and it's

:08:31. > :08:33.taking its toll on those on the But I've met more heroes in this

:08:34. > :08:43.experience than I've ever Strong winds are fanning

:08:44. > :08:54.the flames towards the neighbouring province

:08:55. > :09:04.of Saskatchewan. And officials believe this wildfire

:09:05. > :09:12.could burn for months. In no way is this fire under control. At this

:09:13. > :09:16.point we have approximately 500 firefighters, 15 helicopters, 80 85

:09:17. > :09:22.Rangers, 12 pieces of heavy equipment and 14 air tankers at work

:09:23. > :09:25.on the Fort McMurray wildfire. This is Canada. Canadians work together

:09:26. > :09:30.in the face of a disaster like this. This is as far along the road to

:09:31. > :09:34.Fort McMurray as anyone is allowed for now. They are constantly

:09:35. > :09:38.reassessing because a strong wind is fanning the flames away from heavily

:09:39. > :09:42.populated areas. The temperature has already dropped and has started to

:09:43. > :09:47.rain a little, which is good news. The bad news is, it's simply not

:09:48. > :09:51.enough if they are to put this massive fire out. This was one of

:09:52. > :09:57.the last convoys to leave the city. They are safe, that Canada will be

:09:58. > :10:00.looking at the cost of this natural disaster. Insurance bills alone

:10:01. > :10:05.could be billions of dollars, and how and when will they ever get the

:10:06. > :10:12.chance to rebuild? Laura Bicker, BBC News, Fort McMurray.

:10:13. > :10:17.Police are investigating the death of a soldier in Carmarthenshire. He

:10:18. > :10:20.was found on the street in Brecon and about one o'clock this morning.

:10:21. > :10:23.His death is being treated as unexplained.

:10:24. > :10:27.The new Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has warned that his party can win

:10:28. > :10:29.elections only if it reaches beyond its own activists.

:10:30. > :10:32.He said it was vital for Labour to be what he called a "big tent".

:10:33. > :10:35.This morning he told the BBC he expects to have a meeting

:10:36. > :10:37.with the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, tomorrow.

:10:38. > :10:41.And he emphasised the party's aim should be to improve people's lives.

:10:42. > :10:49.What's important for the Labour Party is to get back into the

:10:50. > :10:54.election. We can only get -- improve people's lives by being back in

:10:55. > :11:00.office, winning elections, general elections. I am hoping we speak to

:11:01. > :11:03.more and more people who didn't vote Labour last time to persuade them

:11:04. > :11:10.that we can again be the Labour government. Some football news now.

:11:11. > :11:12.Celtic have beated their closest

:11:13. > :11:14.challengers Aberdeen to win the Scottish Premier League title

:11:15. > :11:17.They beat Aberdeen 3-2 this afternoon.

:11:18. > :11:18.Here's our Sports Correspondent Patrick Gearey.

:11:19. > :11:20.They think highly of their home at Celtic.

:11:21. > :11:23.While it hasn't been a place of timeless harmony all season,

:11:24. > :11:26.this was set out to be a day of celebration, congratulation.

:11:27. > :11:27.Realistically the title was theirs already,

:11:28. > :11:34.If there was any doubt, it wasn't in Patrick Roberts' mind.

:11:35. > :11:36.A 19-year-old on loan from Manchester City, who will be

:11:37. > :11:47.Roberts seemed intent on sorting out the sums on his own -

:11:48. > :11:49.another chance, another goal, another blow for Aberdeen.

:11:50. > :11:51.Celtic Park's pleasant sunny afternoon went up a notch again

:11:52. > :11:55.It seemed Mikael Lustig had started the lap of honour early,

:11:56. > :11:57.but 3-0 down and knowing even victory wouldn't be enough,

:11:58. > :12:00.It took them a surprisingly long way.

:12:01. > :12:02.First Niall McGinn got one back, then five minutes later

:12:03. > :12:08.The comeback was never completed, though.

:12:09. > :12:11.So this season, for the fifth time in a row, Celtic are champions.

:12:12. > :12:19.And in the English Premier League,this afternoon there a vital

:12:20. > :12:23.match in the race to secure a top four spot and a place in next

:12:24. > :12:28.season's Champions League as Manchester City play Arsenal.

:12:29. > :12:35.The home team went ahead in both halves, but each time Arsenal

:12:36. > :12:39.equalised. The latest score at the Etihad Stadium is 2-2 with just a

:12:40. > :12:41.few minutes of injury time left to play.

:12:42. > :12:44.Prince Harry has criticised what he sees as "incessant"

:12:45. > :12:45.and "unnecessary" intrusion into his private life.

:12:46. > :12:48.He was speaking to the BBC's Andrew Marr ahead of tonight's

:12:49. > :12:50.opening of the Invictus Games in Florida - a tournament

:12:51. > :12:53.for injured service personnel and veterans.

:12:54. > :12:58.From Florida Aleem Maqbool sent this report.

:12:59. > :13:05.A very Disney welcome for competitors at the Invictus games.

:13:06. > :13:07.An event for injured or sick members of armed forces from Britain

:13:08. > :13:13.It is all the vision of Prince Harry, who has been

:13:14. > :13:18.spending time with athletes, as they prepare for competition.

:13:19. > :13:21.He created the first games in 2014, after wanting to do

:13:22. > :13:24.something for those he served with in his own time in the army.

:13:25. > :13:29.Josh from Salisbury has hopes of a gold medal.

:13:30. > :13:32.He lost both legs and an arm after stepping on an explosive

:13:33. > :13:39.In London in 2014 we thought it was just going to be a big sports

:13:40. > :13:41.day and the public would just feel sorry for injured soldiers and,

:13:42. > :13:44.I will give you a big hug or something.

:13:45. > :13:47.But the level of competitiveness was great and you come to a place

:13:48. > :13:52.We all know the Americans like to put on a show, don't they?

:13:53. > :13:57.Well as happy an event as this is, the reminders of the costs of war

:13:58. > :13:59.are all around, and Invictus isn't just about veterans with physical

:14:00. > :14:03.injuries, but those with psychological trauma as well.

:14:04. > :14:09.American, Tino, suffered PTSD after several hours in Iraq.

:14:10. > :14:13.It is clear what he feels Prince Harry has done for him.

:14:14. > :14:19.It gives me the drive, gives me ambition to still accomplish things,

:14:20. > :14:31.But Prince Harry himself says he is frustrated his private life

:14:32. > :14:34.not his charity work is still what some people are interested in.

:14:35. > :14:37.There is this sort of incessant need to find out every detail about

:14:38. > :14:42.It's unnecessary, I hope that people get to see me here in this Invictus

:14:43. > :14:45.role, cracking on with the guys and mucking in and having a good

:14:46. > :14:48.time with them and this what is I enjoy doing.

:14:49. > :14:50.But the the private life has to be private.

:14:51. > :14:53.For the next five days, Prince Harry says he hopes

:14:54. > :15:00.it is the remarkable athletes here who are the focus.

:15:01. > :15:05.There's more throughout the evening on the BBC News Channel.

:15:06. > :15:08.We are back with the late news at 10.