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0:00:06 > 0:00:09This is BBC World News America.

0:00:09 > 0:00:10Reporting from Washington, I'm Laura Trevelyan.

0:00:10 > 0:00:12He's fired.

0:00:12 > 0:00:15Rex Tillerson is out as Secretary of State,

0:00:15 > 0:00:16the latest departure from the turbulent

0:00:16 > 0:00:22Trump administration.

0:00:22 > 0:00:26My commission as Secretary of State will terminate at midnight, March

0:00:26 > 0:00:26the

0:00:26 > 0:00:29will terminate at midnight, March the 31st.

0:00:29 > 0:00:31As Britain demands answers from Russia over the poisoning

0:00:31 > 0:00:34of a former spy and his daughter, President Trump declares the US

0:00:34 > 0:00:39is with Britain all the way.

0:00:39 > 0:00:43He lost his mother to cancer and now seven-year-old Noah is using his

0:00:43 > 0:00:50personal journal to help others.

0:00:59 > 0:01:01Welcome to our viewers on public television here in America,

0:01:01 > 0:01:03and also around the world.

0:01:03 > 0:01:06There was yet another high profile exit from

0:01:06 > 0:01:08the Trump White House today, as the Secretary of State Rex

0:01:08 > 0:01:11Tillerson was fired by tweet.

0:01:11 > 0:01:13Donald Trump used his favourite platform to announce that

0:01:13 > 0:01:18Mr Tillerson would be replaced by the CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

0:01:18 > 0:01:21Mr Tillerson famously refused to deny that he had once

0:01:21 > 0:01:23called his boss a moron.

0:01:23 > 0:01:30He spoke today of maintaining continuity at the State Department.

0:01:30 > 0:01:35What is most important is to ensure an orderly and smooth transition at

0:01:35 > 0:01:40a time the country continues to face significant policy and national

0:01:40 > 0:01:41security challenges.

0:01:41 > 0:01:42Rex Tillerson speaking earlier.

0:01:42 > 0:01:44Now, the build up to his departure as secretary of state

0:01:44 > 0:01:46had been a long one.

0:01:46 > 0:01:51Our North America Editor Jon Sopel explains.

0:01:51 > 0:01:53Rex Tillerson was flying back overnight to Washington

0:01:53 > 0:01:54from a long trip

0:01:54 > 0:01:57to Africa when the normally buttoned-up Secretary of State cut

0:01:57 > 0:02:00loose with journalists, but unbeknown to him,

0:02:00 > 0:02:02the President had signed his death warrant and it would be

0:02:02 > 0:02:05death by tweet.

0:02:05 > 0:02:07"Mike Pompeo, director of the CIA, will become

0:02:07 > 0:02:11our new Secretary of State.

0:02:11 > 0:02:12He will do a fantastic job.

0:02:12 > 0:02:14Thank you to Rex Tillerson for his service."

0:02:14 > 0:02:17But Tillerson is not on Twitter so excuciatingly it fell

0:02:17 > 0:02:20to his chief of staff

0:02:20 > 0:02:24to ring him and inform them of his demise, only this after this

0:02:24 > 0:02:26from the President.

0:02:26 > 0:02:30I wish Rex a lot of good things, I think he will be very happy,

0:02:30 > 0:02:36much happier now, but I really appreciate his service.

0:02:36 > 0:02:39Tillerson's fate was probably sealed a long time ago

0:02:39 > 0:02:42when he apparently called the President a moron,

0:02:42 > 0:02:46a claim the Secretary of State did not exactly deny.

0:02:46 > 0:02:48I'm not going to deal with petty stuff like that.

0:02:48 > 0:02:54I mean, this is what I don't understand about Washington.

0:02:54 > 0:02:56I'm not from this place, but the places I come

0:02:56 > 0:02:59from we don't deal with that kind of petty nonsense.

0:02:59 > 0:03:01Then there was the public undermining of the Secretary

0:03:01 > 0:03:06of State by the President, sending family members to do some

0:03:06 > 0:03:09of the work that would normally be done by America's top diplomat,

0:03:09 > 0:03:11and public shaming on Twitter like this.

0:03:11 > 0:03:14"I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State,

0:03:14 > 0:03:16that he's wasting his time trying to negotiate

0:03:16 > 0:03:19with little rocket man".

0:03:19 > 0:03:23The new man will be Mike Pompeo, currently head of the CIA.

0:03:23 > 0:03:25He recently spoke to the BBC.

0:03:25 > 0:03:28On most things, he's firmly aligned with the President,

0:03:28 > 0:03:30but on Russia he acknowledges the threat they continue

0:03:30 > 0:03:33to pose to US elections.

0:03:33 > 0:03:36I have every expectation that they will continue to try to do

0:03:36 > 0:03:39that, but I'm confident America will have a free and fair election,

0:03:39 > 0:03:43and will push back in a way that is sufficiently robust

0:03:43 > 0:03:48that the impact they have on our election won't be great.

0:03:48 > 0:03:51Tillerson and Trump never gelled, the former CEO of Exxon

0:03:51 > 0:03:56was a corporate titan but he's now political roadkill.

0:03:56 > 0:04:00Surely the place with the lowest life expectancy anywhere

0:04:00 > 0:04:03in the world, being a member of the Trump Administration.

0:04:03 > 0:04:07Jon Sopel, BBC News, Washington.

0:04:07 > 0:04:10For more on Rex Tillerson's firing,

0:04:10 > 0:04:12I'm joined now by the BBC's State Department Correspondent

0:04:12 > 0:04:17Barbara Plett-Usher.

0:04:17 > 0:04:23Rex Tillerson was sacked in the most undiplomatic way possible. But what

0:04:23 > 0:04:26did you think what the nature of his response when giving that statement

0:04:26 > 0:04:31to reporters?He was quite measured and and and Mr Trump and from the

0:04:31 > 0:04:34moment he came into the State Department he has talked about what

0:04:34 > 0:04:37he calls his values honesty and honesty and integrity and respect.

0:04:37 > 0:04:41He mentioned those again today in a statement and urged State Department

0:04:41 > 0:04:44officials to abide by those things into in the word kindness, which I

0:04:44 > 0:04:47think was quite a contrast because he didn't get any of that from his

0:04:47 > 0:04:51boss.Rex Tillerson also saddened that the parking statement that if

0:04:51 > 0:04:55Russia continues on his current path, it will become increasingly

0:04:55 > 0:04:58isolated. The topic where he clashed with the president. What that meant

0:04:58 > 0:05:03to be a shot across the bow? Possibly. He had already spoken

0:05:03 > 0:05:07critically on Russia on his way back from Africa. He also said I've been

0:05:07 > 0:05:10trying to work with the Russians on issues of mutual concern for the

0:05:10 > 0:05:14past year and have not got very far. They have taken a pivot towards in

0:05:14 > 0:05:18aggressive stance and his statement today about the troubling behaviour

0:05:18 > 0:05:22from Russia and that it was going to isolate itself and continue in this

0:05:22 > 0:05:25way in Washington needed to respond, he seemed to be sending a real

0:05:25 > 0:05:29message that his boss does not stand.People that he would be soft

0:05:29 > 0:05:32on Russia because of his length with Russia because it came from an oil

0:05:32 > 0:05:37company. On North Korea, Richarlison was mocked by the President for

0:05:37 > 0:05:41pursuing a diplomatic pot but now Donald Trump may have a sit down

0:05:41 > 0:05:46with Kim Jong-Un. Did he lay the groundwork?I think you could say he

0:05:46 > 0:05:51did. He would then started the policy to isolate North Korea

0:05:51 > 0:05:56diplomatically and economically, which seem to have borne some fruit

0:05:56 > 0:06:00and help to set the stage for Kim Jong-Un's diplomatic overtures and

0:06:00 > 0:06:06he moved Mr Trump towards the policy but he himself said negotiations are

0:06:06 > 0:06:10whole other ball game and said coming back from Africa come he is

0:06:10 > 0:06:13the best delete them because I have experience creating conditions for

0:06:13 > 0:06:17bringing to the parties together with success. That may have been a

0:06:17 > 0:06:20last-minute pitch for his job now that we looked at a hindsight but we

0:06:20 > 0:06:25know that he will be leading them. Thank you for joining us. -- he will

0:06:25 > 0:06:26not be leading them.

0:06:26 > 0:06:29For more on how this Cabinet shake-up could affect the workings

0:06:29 > 0:06:31of the US government, my colleague Katty Kay and spoke

0:06:31 > 0:06:33earlier with William Cohen, former US Secretary of defence.

0:06:33 > 0:06:39That was for our programme Beyond 100 Days.

0:06:39 > 0:06:45Give us some sense, Secretary Cohen, the importance of the role of the

0:06:45 > 0:06:49Secretary of State. How much did they change like this reflect a

0:06:49 > 0:06:52change in American policy?It really depends on the President of the

0:06:52 > 0:06:56United States. What delegation of authority the president gives to a

0:06:56 > 0:07:00Secretary of State. It is clear from this relationship in the beginning

0:07:00 > 0:07:06that President Trump did not give full authority to Rex Tillerson. And

0:07:06 > 0:07:10that was indicative from the very beginning, they had disagreements on

0:07:10 > 0:07:13a variety of other issues and their styles are very different. Rex

0:07:13 > 0:07:17Tillerson come from a corporate world where if there is a process.

0:07:17 > 0:07:21President Trump comes from his own world where there is no process. The

0:07:21 > 0:07:25more of a chaotic environment in which decisions are made on impulse.

0:07:25 > 0:07:32Without great consequence given to what we saw.How much does a matter,

0:07:32 > 0:07:34the relationship between the Secretary of State and the secretary

0:07:34 > 0:07:36of defence? We understand Richarlison had a good relationship

0:07:36 > 0:07:44with General Mattis. You were secretary of defence, Albright was

0:07:44 > 0:07:49splendid's secretary, how much did that matter?It was very important.

0:07:49 > 0:07:53State and defence sometimes disagree on major issues. It is important

0:07:53 > 0:07:57that the secretary of defence and state work together. We did, it was

0:07:57 > 0:08:04a wonderful relationship. In this case, I expect that Mr Pompeo will

0:08:04 > 0:08:09work very well with Secretary Mattis. Both our military men, Mike

0:08:09 > 0:08:12Pompeo, first in the class at West Point, having served in the

0:08:12 > 0:08:17military. I don't think there'll be any big of opinion. Maybe difference

0:08:17 > 0:08:22of style in terms of how they go about resolving any differences.

0:08:22 > 0:08:26That was William Cohen speaking with my colleague Katty Kay earlier.

0:08:26 > 0:08:30President Trump says the US is with Britain all the way

0:08:30 > 0:08:33following the poisoning of a former russian spy in the UK,

0:08:33 > 0:08:36so Downing St said today after a phone call between Mr Trump

0:08:36 > 0:08:38and Theresa May.

0:08:38 > 0:08:41And the President agrees with the Prime Minister that Moscow

0:08:41 > 0:08:43must provide 'unambigious answers', on why a Soviet made nerve agent

0:08:43 > 0:08:45was used in the poisoning.

0:08:45 > 0:08:47Russia has denied any involvement, but the incident has

0:08:47 > 0:08:50created a global backlash, as our Diplomatic Correspondent

0:08:50 > 0:08:53James Landale reports.

0:08:53 > 0:08:56It began as a brutal attack on the streets of Salisbury,

0:08:56 > 0:08:59the poisoning of a former Russian intelligence officer

0:08:59 > 0:09:02and his daughter, that the UK blames on Russia.

0:09:02 > 0:09:05But it's become a global diplomatic row, with Britain looking for allies

0:09:05 > 0:09:09in its confrontation with Moscow.

0:09:09 > 0:09:12British ministers meeting again to discuss the case have given

0:09:12 > 0:09:14the Kremlin until midnight to explain how a nerve

0:09:14 > 0:09:18agent developed in Russia ended up in Britain.

0:09:18 > 0:09:21If the response is incredible, they are promising extensive

0:09:21 > 0:09:27measures against Russia.

0:09:27 > 0:09:32This is a brazen attempt to murder innocent people on UK soil.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35Policemen still in hospital, overwhelmingly likely or highly

0:09:35 > 0:09:40likely the Russian state was involved, and the use of this

0:09:40 > 0:09:43nerve agent would represent the first use of nerve agents

0:09:43 > 0:09:48on the continent of Europe since the Second World War.

0:09:48 > 0:09:53As part of a huge diplomatic effort across Europe,

0:09:53 > 0:09:55British officials told the chemical weapons watchdog in the Netherlands

0:09:55 > 0:09:58that Russia was implicated in the use of chemical weapons.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01Germany, France and other allies offered support

0:10:01 > 0:10:03without attributing blame, but Donald Trump at least appeared

0:10:03 > 0:10:13to accept Russia might be involved.

0:10:13 > 0:10:16As soon as we get the facts straight, if we agree with them,

0:10:16 > 0:10:18we will condemn Russia or whoever it may be.

0:10:18 > 0:10:20Russia is already subject to sanctions because of its

0:10:20 > 0:10:21interventions in Ukraine and Crimea.

0:10:21 > 0:10:24Ministers insist these damage Russia's economy but their impact

0:10:24 > 0:10:26on Moscow's behaviour is doubtful.

0:10:26 > 0:10:29Crucially, these are largely EU sanctions, the UK can't

0:10:29 > 0:10:33impose them on its own.

0:10:33 > 0:10:37So, what unilateral options is the Government considering?

0:10:37 > 0:10:40Some of Russia's 58 diplomats in London could be expelled but that

0:10:40 > 0:10:46might promote a tit for tat expulsion of British diplomats.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49Wealthy Russians in London with links to the Kremlin could face

0:10:49 > 0:10:52financial sanctions and travel bans, but who and how?

0:10:52 > 0:10:55There could be tougher laws to crack down on Russian officials guilty

0:10:55 > 0:10:58of human rights abuses, and Russian TV stations

0:10:58 > 0:11:01like RT could be targeted.

0:11:01 > 0:11:05The regulator has already warned it could lose its licence.

0:11:05 > 0:11:08Here at the Foreign Office, they are also investing a lot

0:11:08 > 0:11:11of effort and diplomacy in trying to bring international

0:11:11 > 0:11:13pressure to bear on Russia, but the bar is high.

0:11:13 > 0:11:17Russia has a veto at the UN and some EU countries are reluctant

0:11:17 > 0:11:22to contemplate yet more sanctions.

0:11:22 > 0:11:24To date, the Russian Embassy said accusations of involvement

0:11:24 > 0:11:27in the Salisbury attack were groundless as diplomats

0:11:27 > 0:11:31promised retaliation against any new sanctions.

0:11:31 > 0:11:35Russia is not a country to be spoken to in the language of ultimatums.

0:11:35 > 0:11:41I think it is high time the UK learned that.

0:11:41 > 0:11:44But unless Moscow gives Britain a satisfactory answer by midnight,

0:11:44 > 0:11:48some Russian diplomats here might be clearing their desks very soon.

0:11:48 > 0:11:53James Landale, BBC News.

0:11:53 > 0:11:56For more on this unfolding drama, I spoke earlier with John Sipher,

0:11:56 > 0:11:58a former member of the CIA's Senior Intelligence Service,

0:11:58 > 0:12:04who served in Russia.

0:12:04 > 0:12:08You know the Russians well, when they denied all involvement and say

0:12:08 > 0:12:13this is groundless, what does that really mean?It means nothing. Putin

0:12:13 > 0:12:19is a checkers, which means his KGB past, original Russian KGB. They are

0:12:19 > 0:12:25taught to deny and lie in these things. We have seen in a consistent

0:12:25 > 0:12:27pattern of this when the shut down the Malaysian aeroplane for example

0:12:27 > 0:12:32decent little green men into Ukrainian to cover Crimea. They also

0:12:32 > 0:12:36lie and say they didn't do it. We are seeing a similar pattern here.

0:12:36 > 0:12:40What do you make a President Trump, who was rather silent yesterday, but

0:12:40 > 0:12:45today he is saying that Russia should have unambiguous answers

0:12:45 > 0:12:50provided to all these questions? Is that tough enough?It is not tough

0:12:50 > 0:12:53enough by itself. It is good that he said that because he has been quite

0:12:53 > 0:12:57before these things. But we have seen in the past how we reacted to

0:12:57 > 0:13:00the Crimea Take-over and how we reacted to the push of chemical

0:13:00 > 0:13:06weapons in in Syria and the murder in London. In the attack against our

0:13:06 > 0:13:12system in the United States, there hasn't been a serious response and

0:13:12 > 0:13:15therefore, Putin being a bully, pushes and places until he is pushed

0:13:15 > 0:13:20back.As an expert in Russia, you were serving with the CIA, what do

0:13:20 > 0:13:24you think an effective response would be to this poisoning by

0:13:24 > 0:13:28Britain and the US and Nato?First, I think the Western allies have to

0:13:28 > 0:13:32be together on this. I want to be careful because as an officer we are

0:13:32 > 0:13:36not policy makers. It is not up to us to say what should be done but

0:13:36 > 0:13:40clearly some sort of joint activity. The things important to Mr Putin are

0:13:40 > 0:13:44staying in power and his money. Something that affects of those

0:13:44 > 0:13:49things will matter whether it's abuses for the children, Russian

0:13:49 > 0:13:54sports teams coming around, boycott of the World Cup, something that

0:13:54 > 0:14:01matters to Putin. -- when the British are setting this deadline,

0:14:01 > 0:14:04does that mean anything in Moscow? I don't think so. They will not admit

0:14:04 > 0:14:09this. It's pretty clear. They will try to find other ways to move out

0:14:09 > 0:14:14of it and if the allies allow them to, they will get away it.With the

0:14:14 > 0:14:18CIA hat on what message do you think the Russians are trying to send out

0:14:18 > 0:14:22or what message does that send out, the poisoning of a former spy there

0:14:22 > 0:14:26in Britain?Adjusting to me that the poisoning of this person in

0:14:26 > 0:14:31particular, I would have played him hi on the hierarchy of his enemies,

0:14:31 > 0:14:34Putin. He has medically he considers the factors traders and they don't

0:14:34 > 0:14:41go after them. However, Mr Sergei was exchanged in a negotiation at

0:14:41 > 0:14:45the ten citizens in the United States were arrested red-handed. I

0:14:45 > 0:14:50am surprised that he was hit, there could be a reason for that, trying

0:14:50 > 0:14:55to send a specific signal or his GR you pass and military pressure but

0:14:55 > 0:14:59there is some piece missing here. The fact they went after him so

0:14:59 > 0:15:03brazenly in London suggests to me there is more to the story.Thank

0:15:03 > 0:15:04you for joining us.

0:15:04 > 0:15:09In other news...

0:15:09 > 0:15:13British police are investigating the death of an exile from the country.

0:15:13 > 0:15:16Nikolai Glushkov, who's been found dead at his home in London.

0:15:16 > 0:15:18A former director at the airline Aeroflot, Glushkov left Russia

0:15:18 > 0:15:21after being convicted of fraud.

0:15:21 > 0:15:23Officials say there's no evidence linking the death

0:15:23 > 0:15:25to poisoned Russian spy, Sergei Skripal.

0:15:25 > 0:15:30You're watching BBC World News America.

0:15:30 > 0:15:33Still to come on tonight's programme: Donald Trump has been

0:15:33 > 0:15:35California dreamin', about border walls, as he views

0:15:35 > 0:15:45prototypes on his first visit to the state as president.

0:15:45 > 0:15:48Investigators in Nepal are still trying to work out

0:15:48 > 0:15:51what caused a plane crash in which at least 49 people died.

0:15:51 > 0:15:53A Bangladeshi plane crashed on landing at Nepal's

0:15:53 > 0:15:55airport in Kathmandu.

0:15:55 > 0:16:01The airline has blamed air traffic control,

0:16:01 > 0:16:02Rajini Vaidyanathan has more.

0:16:02 > 0:16:05A day on from a plane crash which claimed so many lives

0:16:05 > 0:16:07and survivors are starting to recount the final moments before

0:16:07 > 0:16:10the aircraft came down.

0:16:10 > 0:16:15Sanam Shakya remembers it making an emergency landing.

0:16:15 > 0:16:17TRANSLATION: After the forced landing it eventually stopped.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19For a while we were not sure what happened.

0:16:19 > 0:16:25When I looked around I heard people panicking and screaming.

0:16:25 > 0:16:28For the families of those on board there is still a desperate wait.

0:16:28 > 0:16:32Many are in hospital seriously injured.

0:16:32 > 0:16:35TRANSLATION: On Sunday I had a conversation with my son.

0:16:35 > 0:16:38He said he was coming in on the night flight and asked me

0:16:38 > 0:16:40and my wife to come to the airport.

0:16:40 > 0:16:43So on Monday we arrived at the airport at 5am

0:16:43 > 0:16:46and stayed until 8pm.

0:16:46 > 0:16:52Two planes came, but my son's did not arrive.

0:16:52 > 0:16:56This devastating air crash has left two countries in mourning.

0:16:56 > 0:16:58TRANSLATION: The whole of Nepal has come to a halt.

0:16:58 > 0:17:00This has been a big, tragic incident.

0:17:00 > 0:17:04We are very saddened by it.

0:17:04 > 0:17:07TRANSLATION: I have told the Prime Minister of Nepal that any

0:17:07 > 0:17:09sort of assistance they need, Bangladesh is always

0:17:09 > 0:17:10ready to provide.

0:17:10 > 0:17:12We will assist.

0:17:12 > 0:17:14Most of the passengers were from our country so I am

0:17:14 > 0:17:19expressing my condolences to those who died and their families.

0:17:19 > 0:17:22The cause of the crash is still unknown.

0:17:22 > 0:17:24The airline and airport authorities have pointed

0:17:24 > 0:17:26the finger at each other.

0:17:26 > 0:17:28But the airline's chief executive said that whatever

0:17:28 > 0:17:31the cause was, he was sorry.

0:17:31 > 0:17:36Once again lives have been lost in a plane crash in this

0:17:36 > 0:17:46mountainous terrain, Nepal's worst since 1992.

0:17:55 > 0:18:01Just after news broke that he had fired his Secretary of State,

0:18:01 > 0:18:03President Trump headed West for his first trip

0:18:03 > 0:18:04to California since taking office.

0:18:04 > 0:18:06Politicians there have been critical of his policies,

0:18:06 > 0:18:07from climate change to immigration.

0:18:07 > 0:18:10Last week, the administration filed a lawsuit saying California's

0:18:10 > 0:18:16protections for illegal immigrants are unconstitutional.

0:18:16 > 0:18:18Earlier, my colleague Katty Kay spoke with Xavier Becerra,

0:18:18 > 0:18:28California's Attorney General, for her programme Beyond 100 Days.

0:18:28 > 0:18:32Attorney General, your state has the biggest economy in the United

0:18:32 > 0:18:36States. Is it odd that it has taken the president this long to visit

0:18:36 > 0:18:43California?If you go by past experience, definitely is because

0:18:43 > 0:18:47most presidents from Roosevelt forward have always made effort to

0:18:47 > 0:18:51visit California, not just early but often. I'm not sure why Donald Trump

0:18:51 > 0:18:55has waited so long since they can learn so much about what makes a

0:18:55 > 0:19:01nation successful. We are at the economic engine the country, but

0:19:01 > 0:19:03were also the six largest economy in the world come close to passing

0:19:03 > 0:19:09Great Britain as the fifth economic power in the world.Maybe I can give

0:19:09 > 0:19:14you a suggestion about why. You are very Democratic state and see my

0:19:14 > 0:19:18President Trump's supporters as the hotbed of the political resistance.

0:19:18 > 0:19:21He doesn't like the politics of California, simple as that, isn't

0:19:21 > 0:19:29it?Maybe it is a he talked, we act, maybe it's that he talks success, we

0:19:29 > 0:19:32show success. All I know is that California creates more jobs than

0:19:32 > 0:19:39any other state. We are number one in manufacturing, agriculture,

0:19:39 > 0:19:42technology, hospitality, entertainment, we graduate more

0:19:42 > 0:19:46people from colleges than any other state in the nation. That is a

0:19:46 > 0:19:49pretty good record of success that I would hope that not just a nation,

0:19:49 > 0:19:53but every state will want to emulate.Are concerned that the

0:19:53 > 0:19:58president has the capacity to head back against economic success,

0:19:58 > 0:20:03whether it's by building a wall with Mexico, he is looking at prototypes

0:20:03 > 0:20:07today, or whether it's by taking action against California cities, so

0:20:07 > 0:20:11cost insurers it is, that protect undocumented people living in the

0:20:11 > 0:20:18country?Best sanctuary city. I believe the lie lie will be on our

0:20:18 > 0:20:23side, not just history. I, the law. The institutions that we have in

0:20:23 > 0:20:27this country are strong, I believe they can withstand the winds from

0:20:27 > 0:20:31Washington, DC and Donald Trump can say what he likes, it is whether the

0:20:31 > 0:20:34federal government has the right to do these things under the law. So we

0:20:34 > 0:20:38will see Donald Trump in court whether it's on the border wall, or

0:20:38 > 0:20:42his attempt to cars states like California to do his bidding on

0:20:42 > 0:20:48immigration enforcement enforcing our public safety officers to do

0:20:48 > 0:20:52immigration. We're not in the business of deportation, we are in

0:20:52 > 0:20:55the business of Public safety. We are prepared to abide by the loss

0:20:55 > 0:20:58and let the institution of our governments how and when Donald

0:20:58 > 0:21:02Trump can act.What is that actually mean? You say that you are prepared

0:21:02 > 0:21:07to fight back against some of the things the president has proposing,

0:21:07 > 0:21:11clamping down on people who are in the country illegally and clamping

0:21:11 > 0:21:15down on building a wall but he is the president. What can you do about

0:21:15 > 0:21:20that? You cannot stop them from building a wall with Mexico.We can

0:21:20 > 0:21:25stop them from doing those things that fall within the federal

0:21:25 > 0:21:27government's province, the responsibility of the federal

0:21:27 > 0:21:32government. We recognise that. Immigration enforcement is a federal

0:21:32 > 0:21:34responsibility. But even with immigration enforcement you must do

0:21:34 > 0:21:39it according to the Constitution. When Donald Trump tries to violate

0:21:39 > 0:21:43people's constitutional rights, we can step in and we have. So far we

0:21:43 > 0:21:47have proven that onto many occasions, Donald Trump has violated

0:21:47 > 0:21:51the very last he supposed to enforce. That is why today the

0:21:51 > 0:21:53dreamers, the individuals in young people in America horse waiting for

0:21:53 > 0:21:59status code Donald Trump decided to deport by cancelling the programme,

0:21:59 > 0:22:03are still here and the fact that the programme remains in effect because

0:22:03 > 0:22:06of a core challenge that we instituted and we had a nationwide

0:22:06 > 0:22:10injunction stopping Donald Trump from terminating the DACA programme.

0:22:10 > 0:22:14We are so dim on the border wall and we will see with echoes and will try

0:22:14 > 0:22:18to do what we can to defend the rights and the people in California

0:22:18 > 0:22:26and see whether the girls. -- and see where that goes.

0:22:26 > 0:22:28Now many of us have journals where we write down our feelings,

0:22:28 > 0:22:31but for seven-year-old Noah Orion, the pages became a place to express

0:22:31 > 0:22:33himself when his mother was sick with cancer.

0:22:33 > 0:22:36When she died last fall, his drawings became a way

0:22:36 > 0:22:37to illustrate his grief.

0:22:37 > 0:22:40Now his journal is being made into a book - with the proceeds

0:22:40 > 0:22:42Recently we spoke to Noah about the project.

0:22:42 > 0:22:49It is a book where you express your feelings about each date you have.

0:22:52 > 0:22:59I was like how can I make a book where I can just Dunn like one of

0:22:59 > 0:23:04those journals.Noah created this journal, or to delete idea he came

0:23:04 > 0:23:09up with on his own. A good day version and a bad day version.A bad

0:23:09 > 0:23:14day would be like when something goes wrong. A good date would

0:23:14 > 0:23:21basically be holidays, winning video games. But if you cannot find a good

0:23:21 > 0:23:27day or a bad day in that day, you don't have to write about that.

0:23:27 > 0:23:31About five years ago, said he was diagnosed with breast cancer. She

0:23:31 > 0:23:36was diagnosed at stage four. -- Sandy was diagnosed.Who is said

0:23:36 > 0:23:41the?My mum. She was a real trooper when we found out. She went camping

0:23:41 > 0:23:50with us one time.We've always had a conversation in a family about how

0:23:50 > 0:23:57to support your feelings or write them down. When Sandy started to get

0:23:57 > 0:24:01sick it was something we talked about a lot.Dad saw me with these

0:24:01 > 0:24:05and said that is awesome.I wanted to show him that his bright idea

0:24:05 > 0:24:13that help people.

0:24:18 > 0:24:22He said something to me today that I was really great. He I want people

0:24:22 > 0:24:27to know that they can make a difference and they can help even if

0:24:27 > 0:24:29they are only seven years old. I thought that was really a sweet

0:24:29 > 0:24:36thing.I feel awesome that I can contribute. And help them to not

0:24:36 > 0:24:42have the same thing we want to.I know his mum would be so proud of

0:24:42 > 0:24:45what he has accomplished. I know she would be really proud of what he is

0:24:45 > 0:24:49doing.

0:24:49 > 0:24:54No is an inspiration to us all. Thank you for watching BBC.

0:24:54 > 0:25:00I'm Laura Trevelyan.