0:00:08 > 0:00:10You're watching Beyond One Hundred Days.
0:00:10 > 0:00:14The big three internet giants are called to testify in Congress.
0:00:14 > 0:00:16Lawmakers are demanding to know what Facebook,
0:00:16 > 0:00:18Twitter and Google have learnt of Russia's interference
0:00:18 > 0:00:23in the 2016 election.
0:00:23 > 0:00:25New reports show Russian-backed posts may have reached 126 million
0:00:25 > 0:00:31Americans on Facebook during the campaign.
0:00:31 > 0:00:34President Trump calls George Papadopoulos a liar -
0:00:34 > 0:00:36the campaign advisor who is now co-operating with the Russia probe
0:00:37 > 0:00:41is not popular in the White House.
0:00:41 > 0:00:44The head of Catalonia's independence bid says he isn't seeking asylum
0:00:44 > 0:00:45in Brussels to avoid possible rebellion charges.
0:00:45 > 0:00:51Also on the programme:
0:00:51 > 0:00:54A woman tells the BBC how a senior British Labour Party figure
0:00:54 > 0:00:59persuaded her to drop allegations of rape by a party member.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02The father of the Russian Revolution - a century on the statues
0:01:02 > 0:01:05of Lenin are hard to miss, as they were at the height
0:01:05 > 0:01:09of the Soviet Union.
0:01:09 > 0:01:12That means that wherever you went in the USSR there was at least one
0:01:12 > 0:01:14Lenin thinking about you, taking care of you,
0:01:14 > 0:01:17or just watching you.
0:01:17 > 0:01:22Get in touch with us using the hashtag 'Beyond-One-Hundred-Days'
0:01:30 > 0:01:32Hello and welcome - I'm Katty Kay in Washington
0:01:32 > 0:01:35and Christian Fraser is in London.
0:01:35 > 0:01:38Donald Trump today wants to talk about tax reform, his Asia trip,
0:01:38 > 0:01:42Hillary Clinton and even the White House's Halloween
0:01:42 > 0:01:44decorations, but American journalists, prosecutors
0:01:44 > 0:01:46and lawmakers are all consumed with the dramatic developments
0:01:46 > 0:01:49in the Russia investigation.
0:01:49 > 0:01:59No amount of candy is going to change that.
0:01:59 > 0:02:01Meanwhile on Capitol Hill, the three big tech companies
0:02:01 > 0:02:04are being hauled in to answer questions about their unwitting
0:02:04 > 0:02:06involvement in Moscow's bid to meddle in the 2016 election.
0:02:06 > 0:02:08In detailed disclosures sent to Congress on Monday,
0:02:08 > 0:02:10Facebook revealed the Internet Research Agency, a Russian company
0:02:10 > 0:02:12linked to the Kremlin, had posted 80,000 ads
0:02:12 > 0:02:13over two years.
0:02:13 > 0:02:20Roughly 110 a day.
0:02:20 > 0:02:2229 million people accessed them directly, before
0:02:22 > 0:02:23and after the election.
0:02:23 > 0:02:26Those posts were liked, shared or followed by 126 million users.
0:02:26 > 0:02:29As for Twitter, in the three months prior to the election,
0:02:29 > 0:02:31the site identified more than 36,000 automated accounts, that posted
0:02:31 > 0:02:331.4 million election-related tweets linked to Russia.
0:02:33 > 0:02:43Those tweets received approximately 288 million views.
0:02:45 > 0:02:48And those who believe he should stay put.Whether or not his body remains
0:02:48 > 0:02:51on red square, Vladimir Lenin is little more than a museum piece now
0:02:51 > 0:02:54to most Russians. A curiosity. A relic of a lost world. These are the
0:02:54 > 0:02:56live pictures from congress and that is the head of Google giving
0:02:56 > 0:02:58evidence.
0:02:58 > 0:03:00Let's cross live to Capitol Hill now where we can speak
0:03:00 > 0:03:01to Congressman Joaquin Castro.
0:03:01 > 0:03:05He's a Democrat who sits on the House Intelligence Committee.
0:03:05 > 0:03:09Facebook's argument seems to be that 126 million users sounds like a lot,
0:03:09 > 0:03:14but in the scheme of things it is tiny compared to the number of posts
0:03:14 > 0:03:20that go up each day on Facebook. But since it only took 80,000 votes to
0:03:20 > 0:03:25decide the election in three states, I want is possible that Facebook
0:03:25 > 0:03:32decided the election?It is certainly an incredible amount of
0:03:32 > 0:03:37Americans exposed to posts that were basically designed by Russian agents
0:03:37 > 0:03:42to influence the 2016 elections in the United States. So 126 million
0:03:42 > 0:03:46Americans is a very big deal and I'm looking forward to hearing from
0:03:46 > 0:03:52Facebook and others on what they plan to do to combat that in 2018
0:03:52 > 0:03:58and 2020.These days when we go on Facebook, we favourite something and
0:03:58 > 0:04:00the algorithms point us to things that our friends and colleagues
0:04:00 > 0:04:07like. That is the problem here, 29 million people have direct access to
0:04:07 > 0:04:12these ads, but it spreads further and wider than that?That's right,
0:04:12 > 0:04:15what is interesting is the strategy is they want to get it into the
0:04:15 > 0:04:24blood stream of social media. Once it is there, you have legitimate
0:04:24 > 0:04:28people, Americans, citizens, voters, who spread it. It is like starting a
0:04:28 > 0:04:34small fire that spreads and because with Facebook and other social media
0:04:34 > 0:04:39companies, there is an exemption about having a disclaimer about who
0:04:39 > 0:04:43is paying for political ad, that made it harder for Americans to
0:04:43 > 0:04:47recognise that something was wrong here.Are you convinced these
0:04:47 > 0:04:55companies now take this Serce Josly? -- seriously? I think they are. But
0:04:55 > 0:05:00what congress wants to see is a plan of action to root this out. So far I
0:05:00 > 0:05:05think Facebook has taken it more seriously than Twitter. Twitter is
0:05:05 > 0:05:09now coming along. But there should be no excuse here. They need to talk
0:05:09 > 0:05:12about exactly how they're going to make sure that this doesn't happen
0:05:12 > 0:05:16again.
0:05:16 > 0:05:18Congressman stay with us because we want to ask
0:05:18 > 0:05:20you about the developments in Bob Mueller's investigation.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23Mr Trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort and aide Rick Gates
0:05:23 > 0:05:25are spending their first day under house arrest after being indicted
0:05:26 > 0:05:29by the special counsel yesterday.
0:05:29 > 0:05:33Today on Twitter, the President went after George Papodopolous,
0:05:33 > 0:05:35his former campaign foreign policy advisor who is now
0:05:35 > 0:05:39co-operating with the FBI.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41Few people knew the "young, low level volunteer named George,"
0:05:41 > 0:05:43he said "who has already proven to be a liar.
0:05:43 > 0:05:51Check the DEMS."
0:05:51 > 0:05:57The White House press Secretary gave this reaction to the Mueller
0:05:57 > 0:06:03investigation.You seem obsessed with this while there are other
0:06:03 > 0:06:08things happening that people care more about. The media refuses to
0:06:08 > 0:06:13cover it, instead of the focus being on tax cuts. If you look at the
0:06:13 > 0:06:18records, the questions that I take in here day out have more to do with
0:06:18 > 0:06:23an investigation that frankly most Americans don't care much about and
0:06:23 > 0:06:34a lot less to do with policies that impact them.Congress man Castro,
0:06:34 > 0:06:38your reaction to that, most Americans are not interested in the
0:06:38 > 0:06:45Russia investigation.I think she should resign as press Secretary.
0:06:45 > 0:06:49She is issuing outright lies to the American people. The folks that seem
0:06:49 > 0:06:53like they're taking it least serious tend to be the White House and her
0:06:53 > 0:06:59comments reflect that. It is disengeneral use and what you saw
0:06:59 > 0:07:03yesterday, particularly the guilty plea of George Papadopoulos is that
0:07:03 > 0:07:09there is more and more evidence of collusion between members of Trump
0:07:09 > 0:07:13campaign and the Russian agents who interfered with the 2016 election in
0:07:13 > 0:07:17the United States. As the special counsel's office said yesterday,
0:07:17 > 0:07:21George Papadopoulos was just one small part of a much larger
0:07:21 > 0:07:27investigation.What the Republicans would say is it was Hillary Clinton
0:07:27 > 0:07:35who was colluding with the Russians and their campaign wanted dirt on
0:07:35 > 0:07:45Donald Trump. Isn't that the same thing?Well, first, Fusion GPS was
0:07:45 > 0:07:51hired by a very conservative publication and picked up by the DNC
0:07:51 > 0:07:55and the Hillary Clinton campaign. There is no question that opposition
0:07:55 > 0:07:59research is the underbelly of politics, but when somebody does
0:07:59 > 0:08:02research on another person, or candidate, they're going to find
0:08:02 > 0:08:06whatever's out there. If somebody hasn't paid their taxes, they will
0:08:06 > 0:08:15find that.Isn't that what George Papadopoulos said he was doing.
0:08:15 > 0:08:19There is a difference between opposition research with a foreign
0:08:19 > 0:08:22Government and research among Americans. Those are two very
0:08:22 > 0:08:27different things. The dumping of e-mails was meant to affect the
0:08:27 > 0:08:33election in a direct way and that is what it seems like he was try to
0:08:33 > 0:08:39accomplish.Thank you for joining us. Interesting, his comments about
0:08:39 > 0:08:48what is going on at the White House and saying the press Secretary
0:08:48 > 0:08:55should resign.It is a bit Alice in wonderland, the things that we are
0:08:55 > 0:08:58hearing, it doesn't bear any relation to what we saw in the
0:08:58 > 0:09:02indictments. Have you seen the front of White House, it is covered in
0:09:02 > 0:09:08giant spiders and cob webs. I manage there was a moment when Donald Trump
0:09:08 > 0:09:11thought has Hallowe'en come early. Not only was he trying to
0:09:11 > 0:09:14concentrate on the sealed indictments that were being opened,
0:09:14 > 0:09:20but he had to play host to these witches and monsters.It gives me,
0:09:20 > 0:09:27this is the video the White House put out, you wond wler the president
0:09:27 > 0:09:30-- wonder whether the president isn't thinking the White House is
0:09:30 > 0:09:37the haunted house and he would rather be somewhere else. He did
0:09:37 > 0:09:44hand out cannedy to a little girl and told her it was a good thing she
0:09:44 > 0:09:51didn't have a weight problem.We will return to that the story on
0:09:51 > 0:09:55Paul Manafort and Rick Gates later.
0:09:55 > 0:09:58Here in Britain, a former member of Labour's National Executive
0:09:58 > 0:10:00Committee has told the BBC she was raped at the age
0:10:00 > 0:10:03of 19 at a party event by a party member
0:10:03 > 0:10:05and was then persuaded by a senior Labour official
0:10:05 > 0:10:06to drop her allegations.
0:10:06 > 0:10:08Bex Bailey is now calling for an independent agency
0:10:08 > 0:10:11to investigate reports of assault and harassment within the party.
0:10:11 > 0:10:15Our political correspondent Vicki Young reports.
0:10:15 > 0:10:19Bex Bailey has decided to speak out.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22She hopes talking about her personal ordeal will help change the way all
0:10:22 > 0:10:27political parties handle allegations of sexual misconduct.
0:10:27 > 0:10:30She says she was raped at the age of 19, and the
0:10:30 > 0:10:31party didn't do enough to help.
0:10:31 > 0:10:33I was seriously sexually assaulted at
0:10:33 > 0:10:39a Labour Party event by...
0:10:39 > 0:10:41It wasn't an MP, but someone who was more
0:10:41 > 0:10:42senior.
0:10:42 > 0:10:47To me, I told a senior member of staff.
0:10:47 > 0:10:49It was suggested to me that I not report it.
0:10:49 > 0:10:54I was told if I did it might damage me.
0:10:54 > 0:10:56I wasn't given good advice, I wasn't given
0:10:56 > 0:10:58a procedure when I asked for
0:10:58 > 0:11:01it so that I could see what would happen if I did
0:11:01 > 0:11:02report it then make a decision.
0:11:02 > 0:11:05It seemed to be there wasn't one that existed.
0:11:05 > 0:11:07Bex Bailey believes this is a problem that goes
0:11:07 > 0:11:10right through politics at every level.
0:11:10 > 0:11:13Yesterday, MPs called for a change, and the need to give people
0:11:13 > 0:11:18confidence their complaints would be taken seriously.
0:11:18 > 0:11:21One of the things it needs is an element of
0:11:21 > 0:11:23independence.
0:11:23 > 0:11:26Women need to be able to report to an independent agency
0:11:26 > 0:11:28so that they know that these issues will be
0:11:28 > 0:11:31dealt with fairly, that the
0:11:31 > 0:11:34political bias will be taken out of them, and so that they feel
0:11:34 > 0:11:37they can have the confidence to report these
0:11:37 > 0:11:39difficult issues without feeling that they will be penalised as
0:11:39 > 0:11:43a result.
0:11:43 > 0:11:45The Labour Party has responded to the interview, saying,
0:11:45 > 0:11:47"We would strongly recommend that the
0:11:47 > 0:11:48police investigate the allegations
0:11:48 > 0:11:51of criminal actions that Bex Bailey has mentioned."
0:11:51 > 0:11:53They also say they will want an independent
0:11:53 > 0:11:55investigation into claims that an employee acted improperly over
0:11:56 > 0:12:01these 2011 allegations.
0:12:01 > 0:12:06There have been rumours at Westminster over sexual
0:12:06 > 0:12:10misbehaviour and the BBC has seen a list of claims, many unproven,
0:12:10 > 0:12:14against several Conservative MPs and ministers,
0:12:14 > 0:12:15but the real concern here
0:12:15 > 0:12:18is that all political parties have been too slow to support and
0:12:18 > 0:12:21encourage those who want to speak out about bullying, harassment and
0:12:21 > 0:12:25sexual assault.
0:12:25 > 0:12:27This summer, Labour beefed up its procedures to deal
0:12:27 > 0:12:30with complaints of sexual harassment to make sure they are dealt with
0:12:30 > 0:12:31sensitively.
0:12:31 > 0:12:35My leader Jeremy Corbyn takes this issue very seriously.
0:12:35 > 0:12:39We take a zero tolerance approach to any allegations of harassment,
0:12:39 > 0:12:43both within Parliament and our party, and
0:12:43 > 0:12:45he said he will work with Theresa May to find
0:12:45 > 0:12:48an overarching system where people can feel confident that
0:12:48 > 0:12:50if they make a complaint it is dealt with seriously.
0:12:50 > 0:12:52Everyone seems to agree that the system must improve,
0:12:52 > 0:12:56but taking the politics out of these sensitive issues will not be easy.
0:12:56 > 0:13:03Vicky Young, Westminster.
0:13:03 > 0:13:05It's not entirely clear what Charles Puigdemont
0:13:05 > 0:13:07was doing in Brussels today - sight-seeing perhaps,
0:13:07 > 0:13:11eating good food, or maybe escaping the long arm of the Spanish courts.
0:13:11 > 0:13:14The Catalonian separatist leader insists he's not actually
0:13:14 > 0:13:17seeking asylum and for its part Brussels says it certainly didn't
0:13:17 > 0:13:19invite him for a visit, nor does it recognise his so far
0:13:19 > 0:13:22failed independence bid.
0:13:22 > 0:13:24It all adds to the confusion surrounding his plans
0:13:24 > 0:13:28and the future of the region.
0:13:28 > 0:13:31Mr Puigdemont told a news conference that if he'd stayed in Spain it
0:13:31 > 0:13:33would have provoked a violent reaction from the
0:13:33 > 0:13:34Spanish government.
0:13:34 > 0:13:36He insists he is still Catalonia's legitimate president
0:13:36 > 0:13:38even though Madrid has dismissed all the separatist leaders and wants
0:13:38 > 0:13:43to charge Mr Puidgemont with rebellion and sedition.
0:13:43 > 0:13:48I'm not here in order to demand political asylum. This is not about
0:13:48 > 0:13:53a Belgian question. I'm here in Brussels as the capital of Europe.
0:13:53 > 0:14:00This is not a matter of the... Question of the Belgium politics. It
0:14:00 > 0:14:06has no relationship. I'm here in order to act with freedom and
0:14:06 > 0:14:09safety.
0:14:09 > 0:14:13Tim Willcox joins us now from Barcelona.
0:14:13 > 0:14:17How much disappointment is there among separatist members, rank and
0:14:17 > 0:14:20file, at Carles Puigdemont hot-footing it to Brussels and
0:14:20 > 0:14:27staying there?Well, do you know quite a lot. I have been speaking to
0:14:27 > 0:14:32some hard lined supporters who think he has betrayed them. He has gone
0:14:32 > 0:14:38and left some members of his former cabinet here to face the music and
0:14:38 > 0:14:41that music could start soon. He talks of freedom and safety. He said
0:14:41 > 0:14:48he is not seeking asylums, but he has has set up a web-site of his
0:14:48 > 0:14:56government in exile. A lot of his supporters find that offensive. They
0:14:56 > 0:15:02say in the Franco erow the people who left did so -- era the people
0:15:02 > 0:15:07who did leave would have been killed. One other development is the
0:15:07 > 0:15:12Attorney General has already put perspective charges against Carles
0:15:12 > 0:15:15Puigdemont and members of his cabinet to the national court, the
0:15:15 > 0:15:19judge has now decided that she wants to hear from Carles Puigdemont and
0:15:19 > 0:15:24the others and she has summoned them to Madrid on Thursday morning with
0:15:24 > 0:15:28that hearing expected to run over to Friday as well. Very serious
0:15:28 > 0:15:35charges. Charges of sedition and rebellion and misuse of public funds
0:15:35 > 0:15:40that could lead to a prison sentence of 30 years. I wouldn't put a lot of
0:15:40 > 0:15:43money on Carles Puigdemont willingly returning to Madrid to make that
0:15:43 > 0:15:47appearance. Because he said he doesn't think he will get a free and
0:15:47 > 0:15:52fair trial by the Madrid authorities.On that point, this
0:15:52 > 0:15:56could at some point put the Europeans in a sticky position, the
0:15:56 > 0:16:00Prime Minister of Belgium said he has the same rights and
0:16:00 > 0:16:05responsibilities as any other European citizen. But if he is
0:16:05 > 0:16:08charged with those crimes, you can imagine they will have to hand him
0:16:08 > 0:16:13back to the Spaniards?Well yeah, if there is an international arrest
0:16:13 > 0:16:18warrant what, happens then? On the point of the Belgian Prime Minister,
0:16:18 > 0:16:22the last thing he wants to do is have a spat with Spain. He has made
0:16:22 > 0:16:28that very clear. But remember he is in a fragile coalition and the
0:16:28 > 0:16:35largest member of his coalition, its leader is saying we won't turn our
0:16:35 > 0:16:40back on our Catalan friends and he said that they would defend and
0:16:40 > 0:16:47support puj. -- Carles Puigdemont. So it is another looming headache at
0:16:47 > 0:16:53the least for the EU. And indeed for the supporters of Carles Puigdemont
0:16:53 > 0:17:00and the former government here in Catalonia. Because they talk about
0:17:00 > 0:17:03betrayal, millions of them thought that Carles Puigdemont was going to
0:17:03 > 0:17:06take them to independence. He has now fled the country. He is not
0:17:06 > 0:17:09going to come back until he gets some commitments from Madrid, which
0:17:09 > 0:17:15I don't think he will get, and some of his supporters say this has put
0:17:15 > 0:17:17the cause for independence back many years, although Carles Puigdemont
0:17:17 > 0:17:22said he will take part in elections called for in December. Something
0:17:22 > 0:17:27which had he announced himself would have prevented according to Spain
0:17:27 > 0:17:33the entire implementation of direct rule.Thank you very much.
0:17:33 > 0:17:35I'm joined now in the studio by spokesperson for
0:17:35 > 0:17:40the Catalan National Assembly in England Carles Suarez.
0:17:40 > 0:17:48Do you feel betrayed?Not let's not forget that the last time that the
0:17:48 > 0:17:52Spanish state put into jail a Catalan president he was
0:17:52 > 0:17:58assassinated.But that is not going to happen now.He has been asked a
0:17:58 > 0:18:0230 year sentence for organising a referendum.Aren't revolutionaries
0:18:02 > 0:18:08supposed to stand and fight. These leader.But it is a democratic
0:18:08 > 0:18:13revolution. These revolutions are winnable in polls. That is what we
0:18:13 > 0:18:19did and we are going to do again in December.What about the opposition
0:18:19 > 0:18:24to Mariano Rajoy in Catalonia, why is not very visible. There is no
0:18:24 > 0:18:27sign of people taking to the streets or you know the Government going
0:18:27 > 0:18:34into the Catalan Parliament and... That is true.Why is that not
0:18:34 > 0:18:39happening?Independence was proclaimed on Friday. Carles
0:18:39 > 0:18:42Puigdemont and members of his government have gone into exile in
0:18:42 > 0:18:50Belgium. It is true home rule from Spain is controlling the territory.
0:18:50 > 0:18:57But his narrative of why this is being done, because he wanted to
0:18:57 > 0:19:02avoid another brutal, violent act from the Spanish state. What he is
0:19:02 > 0:19:07saying it, let's go a bit slower. Let's not take to the streets and
0:19:07 > 0:19:12defend the republic street by street. But let's try to regain the
0:19:12 > 0:19:18mandate and that will happen in the elections in December.Was it just
0:19:18 > 0:19:22too early for you to call the referendum on independence. Were you
0:19:22 > 0:19:27not ready for it. It doesn't look like you had the steps in place
0:19:27 > 0:19:35after the vote.I know where you're coming from. It is not readiers
0:19:35 > 0:19:39because the preparations for 2014 referendum. I don't think it is a
0:19:39 > 0:19:48question of design of how to go from the proclamation to independence. He
0:19:48 > 0:19:53decided to take a step back and go the process slower, keep the calm
0:19:53 > 0:19:59and peace in the country. We also want sprain did on referendum on
0:19:59 > 0:20:04referendum with the brutality of the police. He doesn't want civil
0:20:04 > 0:20:11servants to be put in that position. I understand your point, but this is
0:20:11 > 0:20:18directing to a re-mandate for independence.Thank you very much.
0:20:18 > 0:20:24It is hard to see how it doesn't look like a victory for Madrid, but
0:20:24 > 0:20:27nay didn't handle it well on referendum day, but they seem to be
0:20:27 > 0:20:35getting most of what they want now. You were talking of revolutionaries.
0:20:35 > 0:20:37It's one hundred years since the Russian Revolution,
0:20:37 > 0:20:39an event that would define the 20th century.
0:20:39 > 0:20:41All this week our Moscow correspondent Steve Rosenberg
0:20:41 > 0:20:43will be crossing Russia to report from cities connected
0:20:43 > 0:20:44to that historic event.
0:20:44 > 0:20:47Today he's in Moscow, the final resting place of Vladimir Lenin.
0:20:47 > 0:20:50In the second of his special series Steve looks at how modern Russians
0:20:50 > 0:20:53view the founder of Bolshevism.
0:20:53 > 0:20:56In a park outside Moscow, these are the ghosts of
0:20:56 > 0:21:00communism past.
0:21:00 > 0:21:01Like a freak show of fallen idols.
0:21:01 > 0:21:05And the Red Star of this show is Vladimir Lenin, who led
0:21:05 > 0:21:10the Russian revolution.
0:21:10 > 0:21:12There were an estimated 14,000 statues of
0:21:12 > 0:21:13this man in the Soviet Union.
0:21:13 > 0:21:15That means that wherever you went in the USSR,
0:21:15 > 0:21:18there was probably at least one Lenin thinking about you.
0:21:18 > 0:21:20Taking care of you.
0:21:20 > 0:21:25Or just watching you.
0:21:25 > 0:21:29But communism did more than make statues of him.
0:21:29 > 0:21:32It preserved his body and put it on display.
0:21:32 > 0:21:34"Lenin is more alive than the living," declared
0:21:34 > 0:21:37one Soviet slogan.
0:21:37 > 0:21:39A whole scientific institute was set up to
0:21:39 > 0:21:42maintain the corpse.
0:21:42 > 0:21:44Over time, it has had to replace some skin and
0:21:44 > 0:21:48flesh with plastics and other material.
0:21:48 > 0:21:52Lenin's Red Square Mausoleum was a site of pilgrimage in
0:21:52 > 0:21:54the late USSR - the late revolutionary quite literally
0:21:54 > 0:22:00cult viewing.
0:22:00 > 0:22:04It's one of the ironies of the Russian Revolution that the man who
0:22:04 > 0:22:07led it, the Bolshevic who waged war on the church and once
0:22:07 > 0:22:11declared, "There can be nothing more abominable than religion," that this
0:22:11 > 0:22:13man, Vladimir Lenin, ended up the closest thing
0:22:13 > 0:22:18communism had to a God.
0:22:18 > 0:22:20His body put on display here in the mausoleum and deified
0:22:20 > 0:22:24like a Soviet saint.
0:22:24 > 0:22:27But 100 years after Lenin's revolution, might it now be
0:22:27 > 0:22:29time to consign the mausoleum to history and commit
0:22:29 > 0:22:34his body to the ground?
0:22:34 > 0:22:36I believe that he should be buried.
0:22:36 > 0:22:38This symbol of the revolution should find its proper
0:22:38 > 0:22:42place, not on the red Square.
0:22:42 > 0:22:47Over our dead body, says the Communist Party.
0:22:47 > 0:22:51"No one is going to lay a finger on him," the party leader says,
0:22:51 > 0:22:57"and if anyone dares to try, we'll chase them away."
0:22:57 > 0:23:00Stanislas has a connection to the burial business.
0:23:00 > 0:23:03His company decorates funeral accessories.
0:23:03 > 0:23:06There is a Lenin connection too - he is Vladimir Lenin's great,
0:23:06 > 0:23:12great grand nephew.
0:23:12 > 0:23:15One idea, Stanislas says, is to bury Lenin in
0:23:15 > 0:23:18the mausoleum to satisfy those who think he should lie in the
0:23:18 > 0:23:24ground and those who believe he should stay put.
0:23:24 > 0:23:27Whether or not his body remains on Red Square, Vladimir
0:23:27 > 0:23:30Lenin is little more than a museum piece now to most Russians.
0:23:30 > 0:23:31A curiosity.
0:23:31 > 0:23:41A relic of a lost world.
0:23:42 > 0:23:47I'm loving this series, we should have Steve on the programme every
0:23:47 > 0:23:50night, whether or not it is the anniversary of the Russian
0:23:50 > 0:23:57revolution.I remember reporting on the war in Ukraine and every where
0:23:57 > 0:24:02you walked there was statues of Lenin and they were pulling them
0:24:02 > 0:24:08down when I was there and they have pulled down about 1,300. In Putin's
0:24:08 > 0:24:12Russia, they don't know what to do with them, whether to take them town
0:24:12 > 0:24:22or honour them. That tells you how complicated their history is.There
0:24:22 > 0:24:25will be one day of President Trump.
0:24:25 > 0:24:27The official portraits of President Donald Trump
0:24:27 > 0:24:29and Vice President Mike Pence have been released.
0:24:29 > 0:24:31Copies of the portraits will be printed by the Government Publishing
0:24:31 > 0:24:34Office and distributed to post offices, federal agencies and other
0:24:34 > 0:24:36government buildings.
0:24:36 > 0:24:40They look like school photographs. Why has it taken so long to get
0:24:40 > 0:24:46these. Nine months since he took office. It talk President Obama
0:24:46 > 0:24:51three months.I think it is to do with Donald Trump and image. He is
0:24:51 > 0:24:55somebody who all his career has been very focussed on visuals, whether
0:24:55 > 0:25:00when he was doing The Apprentice or working in television, the look of
0:25:00 > 0:25:04things and the lighting when he did the Republican convention, the
0:25:04 > 0:25:08lighting of it, the stage setting, all important to Donald Trump. I
0:25:08 > 0:25:14don't know if that is why it has taken so long. But these photo
0:25:14 > 0:25:19matter to him. I think we should produce one for you. I could see an
0:25:19 > 0:25:26official portrait.It would need some air-brushing.The BBC budget
0:25:26 > 0:25:35doesn't run to a statue.Perish the thought I would say that had any
0:25:35 > 0:25:37air-brushing but mine would.
0:25:37 > 0:25:39This is Beyond 100 Days from the BBC.
0:25:39 > 0:25:42Coming up for viewers on the BBC News Channel and BBC World News -
0:25:42 > 0:25:45we've more from Capitol Hill as lawmakers pour over those
0:25:45 > 0:25:47incredible figures from Facebook, which say millions of Americans
0:25:47 > 0:25:49were exposed to Russian material during the US election.
0:25:49 > 0:25:52And not that George, the other George -
0:25:52 > 0:25:54namesakes the world over sympathise and stand in solidarity
0:25:54 > 0:25:55with George Papadopolous - the financial planner,
0:25:55 > 0:25:57not the former Trump campaign aide!
0:25:57 > 0:26:06That's still to come.
0:26:11 > 0:26:14Thankfully Hallowe'en weather is quiet in many parts. Particularly
0:26:14 > 0:26:20for England and Wales. Just the odd splash of rain in northern England.
0:26:20 > 0:26:24Wetter in northern Scotland. And some rain over night in Northern
0:26:24 > 0:26:32Ireland too. But for many dry with clearer skies in England and Wales
0:26:32 > 0:26:39with some mist and fog patches and into Wednesday morning the focus for
0:26:39 > 0:26:45wet weather will be in Scotland. Mainly from the southern Highlands
0:26:45 > 0:26:53down to Glasgow and Edinburgh and the north coast of Northern Ireland.
0:26:53 > 0:26:59The east coast of Scotland will be brighter. England and Wales after
0:26:59 > 0:27:04that morning mist and fog should be fine. More sunshine than today. It
0:27:04 > 0:27:11should feel warmer. Temperatures up to 15 or 16 Celsius. Brighter
0:27:11 > 0:27:14conditions in the east of Scotland. But still wet weather in the south
0:27:14 > 0:27:21of Scotland, linked to this front which will edge southwards, bringing
0:27:21 > 0:27:28thicker cloud and mist and fog. But a cheerer night and cold in
0:27:28 > 0:27:33Scotland. It does mean into Thursday, other than this weak
0:27:33 > 0:27:36front, with a zone of cloud, that will continue to push into the
0:27:36 > 0:27:42southern parts of England and Wales, some rain and drizzle. Much of
0:27:42 > 0:27:45northern England and Northern Ireland will have a fine day. Not
0:27:45 > 0:27:52warm. But you will have the sunshine to compensate. More cloud for all of
0:27:52 > 0:27:59us into Friday. The best of bright skies in the east. Some rain in the
0:27:59 > 0:28:03north-west of Scotland and Northern Ireland. And we will see another
0:28:03 > 0:28:07feature through Friday night bringing heavy rain into England and
0:28:07 > 0:28:13Wales. That becomes the dominant feature. But it doesn't stop us from
0:28:13 > 0:28:17seeing colder air for the weekend. That will push across all parts and
0:28:17 > 0:28:24bring us a mixed weekend. A weekend full of fireworks for some with
0:28:24 > 0:28:28sunshine and some showers in the north and west. For all a chilly
0:28:28 > 0:28:30breeze too.
0:30:16 > 0:30:19This is beyond 100 days. Representatives of Google Facebook
0:30:19 > 0:30:24and Twitter are testifying before a US senators to determine whether
0:30:24 > 0:30:32Russia used their services to try to sway the 2060 presidential election.
0:30:32 > 0:30:36President Trump has called former campaign adviser George Papadopoulos
0:30:36 > 0:30:48liar. And coming up, China has new tougher penalties for anyone found
0:30:48 > 0:30:53disrespecting the flag and anthem. And milking Brexit, will need the UK
0:30:53 > 0:30:56dairy farmers looking beyond Europe to grow their businesses before
0:30:56 > 0:31:02leaving the EU. Let us know your thoughts by using our hashtag,
0:31:02 > 0:31:15beyond 100 days. President Trump is said to be seething as he watched
0:31:15 > 0:31:27the developments yesterday in the Mueller investigation. George
0:31:27 > 0:31:31Papadopoulos had pleaded guilty and was now cooperating with the FBI.
0:31:31 > 0:31:35Russia is it clear did attempt to make contact with the Trump campaign
0:31:35 > 0:31:38and offered so-called dirt on Hillary Clinton in the form of
0:31:38 > 0:31:43e-mail. It is also not clear from detailed disclosures that fake news
0:31:43 > 0:31:48was disseminated on Facebook, Twitter and Google for years. In the
0:31:48 > 0:31:51weeks after the election Mark Zuckerberg said the idea that fake
0:31:51 > 0:31:56news on Facebook had influenced the vote was crazy. But two months ago
0:31:56 > 0:32:00the social media site announced a $100,000 had been spent on US
0:32:00 > 0:32:05political advertisements by an operation likely based in Russia. In
0:32:05 > 0:32:09September Mark Zuckerberg retracted his earlier statement, he said it
0:32:09 > 0:32:14was the longer crazy that fake news could have influenced the election.
0:32:14 > 0:32:18Facebook handed in information on 3000 advertisements linked to Russia
0:32:18 > 0:32:23to Congress. And of course today we learned that they could have been
0:32:23 > 0:32:30spread to 126 million people. Our North America technology
0:32:30 > 0:32:34correspondent is here and watching all of the hearing. We heard the
0:32:34 > 0:32:39intelligence committee then told that the social media giants are
0:32:39 > 0:32:42beginning to take this more seriously. What is your view on
0:32:42 > 0:32:48this?That is the impression they're trying to give. Today we heard the
0:32:48 > 0:32:53testimony from the three companies. They have all been keen to stress
0:32:53 > 0:32:58that they have done a thorough investigation into the nature of
0:32:58 > 0:33:02this problem but also have been working on solving the problem for
0:33:02 > 0:33:07several years. Google said it had a team in place since 2014 to try to
0:33:07 > 0:33:11combat this. But some of the questions from the panel to the tech
0:33:11 > 0:33:15companies are quite revealing about where the investigation might be
0:33:15 > 0:33:20going. So they asked which other countries may also be trying to
0:33:20 > 0:33:24influence American voters. Potentially whitening is out there.
0:33:24 > 0:33:28And also the nature of some of the messages and interestingly Facebook
0:33:28 > 0:33:33saying that after the election had finished the nature of what Russian
0:33:33 > 0:33:41backed groups were hosting was sent to disrupt the validity of the win.
0:33:41 > 0:33:49So it seems that the goal has been to destabilise the American
0:33:49 > 0:33:53democratic system. So revealing hearing so far and still to on
0:33:53 > 0:34:00Wednesday as well.The president of courses take is this did not happen,
0:34:00 > 0:34:08it could mean anyone. He refers to a £400 bloke sitting on a bed. It will
0:34:08 > 0:34:13be harder for them to stick to the line.I think he's been thrown a
0:34:13 > 0:34:16bone by Facebook when they said they were trying to attack Donald Trump
0:34:16 > 0:34:22as well. If we are going to get an early morning message from the
0:34:22 > 0:34:26president that might be the detail he latches onto because there is a
0:34:26 > 0:34:28running theory that these advertisements from the Russians
0:34:28 > 0:34:34were trying to attack Hillary Clinton alone. But it seems based on
0:34:34 > 0:34:37what the companies have told the committee today that that was not
0:34:37 > 0:34:45the case, it was just about staring debate and making people talk about
0:34:45 > 0:34:47inflammatory issues during the election such as race and
0:34:47 > 0:34:53immigration.All this of course is happening on Capitol Hill are mile
0:34:53 > 0:34:57away from the White House. Administration officials dealing
0:34:57 > 0:35:05with the fallout. Joining us now for a reaction to that is lawyer and
0:35:05 > 0:35:09author Alan, thank you for joining us. Just to get your reaction to
0:35:09 > 0:35:13everything that we heard yesterday coming out of the special Counsel
0:35:13 > 0:35:18office and how serious you thought that might be for the
0:35:18 > 0:35:21administration?Really no surprise to anyone who has seen how criminal
0:35:21 > 0:35:28law and prosecution practice here in the US works. I predicted this three
0:35:28 > 0:35:35months ago. And what the tactic is is to try to find anyone close to
0:35:35 > 0:35:40the president is vulnerable. On taxes, online to the government, and
0:35:40 > 0:35:43then inviting them and squeezing them and trying get them to let
0:35:43 > 0:35:49another domino for, some even closer to the President. The ultimate goal
0:35:49 > 0:35:53is the big domino in the Oval Office. But the problem is it gets
0:35:53 > 0:36:00people not only to sing but also to compose. To improve their story, to
0:36:00 > 0:36:06elaborate on it and even outright lie. Because these witnesses know
0:36:06 > 0:36:11that they will get a sweeter deal. So it is a dangerous tactic.
0:36:11 > 0:36:15Speaking as a lawyer, if you were prosecuting a case like this would
0:36:15 > 0:36:20someone who was at a low level like George Papadopoulos or someone at
0:36:20 > 0:36:24the higher level and sat in on meetings like Paul Manafort, be more
0:36:24 > 0:36:28useful to you potentially?Generally the person who is closer to the
0:36:28 > 0:36:34target is more useful but in this case they may have had the younger
0:36:34 > 0:36:40person wearing a wire, they may have a proactive cooperating witness. He
0:36:40 > 0:36:44pleaded guilty to lying and you cannot use a liar as a witness, that
0:36:44 > 0:36:51is easy to cross-examine by any defence attorney. So they wanted him
0:36:51 > 0:36:56to gather evidence, hard evidence on tape whether that worked or not, I
0:36:56 > 0:37:01doubt it. If it did I think we would know about it.What think that
0:37:01 > 0:37:07Robert Mueller, what is his tactic, three sealed indictments yesterday,
0:37:07 > 0:37:11what is he trying to say to the administration?I do not think he's
0:37:11 > 0:37:16trying to talk to the administration at all but talk to witnesses who
0:37:16 > 0:37:21might be vulnerable and have them come forward and say, if you come to
0:37:21 > 0:37:28us proactively we will give you get out jail card. I do not think there
0:37:28 > 0:37:32is any message to President Trump himself except perhaps to worry
0:37:32 > 0:37:37because people closest to him are vulnerable and people resent that.
0:37:37 > 0:37:42Paul Manafort would never have been investigated where he not close to
0:37:42 > 0:37:46President Trump. But once they start looking they found alleged tax
0:37:46 > 0:37:50evasion, alleged laundering and then they had him and they were able to
0:37:50 > 0:37:53squeeze in. I think they will try to do that with everyone close to
0:37:53 > 0:37:58President Trump and so the message really was more to people close to
0:37:58 > 0:38:01the present than the President himself.Of course we should make
0:38:01 > 0:38:06the point that in the indictment yesterday with regards to Paul
0:38:06 > 0:38:09Manafort there was no reference at all to the Trump campaign or to
0:38:09 > 0:38:15Donald Trump.It might well have been jaywalking or double parking,
0:38:15 > 0:38:19it does not matter. Jaywalking woodwork, the penalty is not severe
0:38:19 > 0:38:24enough but it does not have to be related to the crime, or the need to
0:38:24 > 0:38:29do is have the ability to leverage the indictment, to get them to
0:38:29 > 0:38:33testify and provide evidence. So if you can get something that relates
0:38:33 > 0:38:37to Russia that is better. And they did that but the other defendant,
0:38:37 > 0:38:44but with Paul Manafort and gates it is irrelevant that they had nothing
0:38:44 > 0:38:48to do with the Russia probe as long as they have him and they can
0:38:48 > 0:38:52squeeze him and maybe get evidence about the Russian probe.Thank you
0:38:52 > 0:39:02very much. This is interesting, you heard the lawyer talking about the
0:39:02 > 0:39:05possible state of mind up the President and think he's not the
0:39:05 > 0:39:08person getting the message does not need to be so worried but the
0:39:08 > 0:39:13American press reports today from the White House still leaking like a
0:39:13 > 0:39:17sieve, and it pretty clear that the president himself was watching
0:39:17 > 0:39:22television as these indictments came down and were unsealed and is George
0:39:22 > 0:39:25Papadopoulos was also revealed in the press. And it caused a certain
0:39:25 > 0:39:28amount of consternation that he was not happy with this and the way it
0:39:28 > 0:39:33was being portrayed in the press. And the chief of staff John Kelly
0:39:33 > 0:39:43last night
0:39:45 > 0:39:47saying it was incredibly distracting for the President, making his
0:39:47 > 0:39:48presidency harder to accomplish with the John Kelly interview
0:39:48 > 0:39:55interesting, he said it all happened before they joined the campaign.It
0:39:55 > 0:39:58was clear that George Papadopoulos had gone to meet this contact here
0:39:58 > 0:40:03in London when he was already on board with the President Trump
0:40:03 > 0:40:06campaign. And there are pictures of him sitting with Donald Trump and
0:40:06 > 0:40:11also with the head of this foreign policy advisor committee. They are
0:40:11 > 0:40:18both sitting there and trying to refer to George Papadopoulos as the
0:40:18 > 0:40:23coffee boy.And it was made clear that George Papadopoulos was
0:40:23 > 0:40:27approached by the Russian operative oddly called the professor, this is
0:40:27 > 0:40:32a guy who is a Russian agent. He was approached specifically because it
0:40:32 > 0:40:41was on the Tramp campaign. Not a coffee insight! Police in the UK
0:40:41 > 0:40:44have investigated sexual abuse allegations made by seven women
0:40:44 > 0:40:48against the Hollywood film producer Harvey Weinstein. The incidents are
0:40:48 > 0:40:52alleged to have taken place between the early 1980s and 2015 in London
0:40:52 > 0:40:59and outside the UK. Harvey Weinstein has denied any allegations of
0:40:59 > 0:41:03nonconsensual sex. Netflix has announced the production of their
0:41:03 > 0:41:06House of Cards next season has been suspended until further notice in
0:41:06 > 0:41:10the wake of claims of sexual misconduct against its star Kevin
0:41:10 > 0:41:15Spacey. That Kwik Save they want more time to review the situation
0:41:15 > 0:41:19and address concerns. The former Italian Prime Minister Silvio
0:41:19 > 0:41:22Berlusconi is under investigation for alleged involvement in a series
0:41:22 > 0:41:28of Mafia bombings in 1993 which left ten people dead. Prosecutors
0:41:28 > 0:41:31advanced open enquiry after an imprisoned Mafia boss was caught on
0:41:31 > 0:41:35a wiretap saying that he had urged him to commit violence against the
0:41:35 > 0:41:41state. Billy Connolly has been knighted just a few weeks ahead of
0:41:41 > 0:41:44his 75th birthday. Honoured for services to entertainment and
0:41:44 > 0:41:49charity as well as comedy. His best-known work is the film Mrs
0:41:49 > 0:42:00Brown and The Hobbit. Many stories before this about people behaving
0:42:00 > 0:42:07not very well! China is considering tougher penalties for those who
0:42:07 > 0:42:17disrespect the national anthem or flag. The draft law says behaviour
0:42:17 > 0:42:20could be punishable by up to three years in prison at the moment people
0:42:20 > 0:42:26who mock the national emblems can be held in custody for up to 15 days.
0:42:26 > 0:42:31This is the kind of story that can be found on Drew the column of tell
0:42:31 > 0:42:38me something I don't know. But it has serious implications for people
0:42:38 > 0:42:43in Hong Kong. In the past month or so football fans in particular have
0:42:43 > 0:42:47been disrespecting the anthem. Building on the pitch when the
0:42:47 > 0:42:53Chinese flag is raised. Or the anthem is played. -- building. And
0:42:53 > 0:43:00if they face imprisonment for that it would be quite serious indeed.
0:43:00 > 0:43:06Let's bring you breaking news now, from New York. Police say they are
0:43:06 > 0:43:09investigating reports of gunfire in the lower Manhattan area. One person
0:43:09 > 0:43:13has been taken into custody we understand. It is not yet known if
0:43:13 > 0:43:21anyone has been injured. We do have one message that is coming from
0:43:21 > 0:43:25police officials. Let's see if we can bring that up, responding to a
0:43:25 > 0:43:29sports of shots fired in lower Manhattan. That is all we have at
0:43:29 > 0:43:37the moment. Still to come on the programme, the Bank of England
0:43:37 > 0:43:40warning about job losses in a post-breadth of Britain. But we find
0:43:40 > 0:43:47out if the news is all bad. -- post Brexit.
0:43:47 > 0:43:51Police said they believed one man and five of his children aged
0:43:51 > 0:43:56between four and 11 died in a fire that ripped through a farmhouse in
0:43:56 > 0:43:59Wales yesterday. Tributes have been paid to David Cuthbertson who lived
0:43:59 > 0:44:03at the property with other members of his family. Three children
0:44:03 > 0:44:07managed to escape. The investigation into the cause of the fire is under
0:44:07 > 0:44:16way.
0:44:16 > 0:44:18Flowers and messages, remembering five children who died.
0:44:18 > 0:44:20The youngest was four, the eldest 11 years old.
0:44:20 > 0:44:22The farmhouse where they lived with their father David Cuthbertson
0:44:22 > 0:44:23was completely destroyed.
0:44:23 > 0:44:26Police believe the 68-year-old also died in the fire in the early hours
0:44:26 > 0:44:27of yesterday morning.
0:44:27 > 0:44:30The damage is so severe police can't yet formally identify the victims.
0:44:30 > 0:44:33Mary Ann Gilchrist is a family friend.
0:44:33 > 0:44:36She describes David Cuthbertson as a devoted father,
0:44:36 > 0:44:39who also had grown up children living nearby.
0:44:39 > 0:44:43I mean, what I find so horrific is that one of the people
0:44:43 > 0:44:47who were responding was his son-in-law who works for,
0:44:47 > 0:44:50you know, our retained firm.
0:44:50 > 0:44:52Can you imagine?
0:44:52 > 0:44:59His children are all sweet, intelligent, and he should...
0:44:59 > 0:45:03I'm sure he was very proud of them.
0:45:03 > 0:45:06But I really don't think I can say any more, not at the moment.
0:45:06 > 0:45:10I'm sorry, it's too raw.
0:45:10 > 0:45:13That sadness is shared in the local village.
0:45:13 > 0:45:15In the Post Office funds and clothes are being collected
0:45:15 > 0:45:20for the three children - aged 13, 12 and 19 -
0:45:20 > 0:45:22who managed to escape the fire.
0:45:22 > 0:45:24We just wanted to feel that we were doing something
0:45:24 > 0:45:28as a community, and we've had people putting piggy banks
0:45:28 > 0:45:31in there, their piggy bank money in this morning.
0:45:31 > 0:45:33In the local church, thoughts and prayers
0:45:33 > 0:45:35are with the family.
0:45:35 > 0:45:37A book of condolence has been opened, and its planned
0:45:37 > 0:45:47that a special service will be held later.
0:45:57 > 0:46:01You're watching beyond 100 days was at the Bank of England has warned
0:46:01 > 0:46:0575,000 jobs could be lost from the UK financial services sector if the
0:46:05 > 0:46:09UK leads the European Union without a trade deal. Senior figures at the
0:46:09 > 0:46:13back are said to be using the number as the scenario for future planning
0:46:13 > 0:46:15but are thought to be optimistic that negotiations will be
0:46:15 > 0:46:24successful. Earlier we spoke to the BBC economics editor. The problem is
0:46:24 > 0:46:27because these figures come from the Bank of England, Brexiteers will say
0:46:27 > 0:46:33that they are discredited and that the government once again is putting
0:46:33 > 0:46:38out the worst-case scenario?I do not think that would be quite fair.
0:46:38 > 0:46:44The Bank of England has asked all financial institutions in the city,
0:46:44 > 0:46:49banks and hedge funds and others to provide to them what they describe
0:46:49 > 0:46:52as contingency plans. They were sent to the bank over the summer and I
0:46:52 > 0:46:59think this number has come from that process. The bank, many in the city
0:46:59 > 0:47:03you're right would say an ideal scenario is the worst-case scenario.
0:47:03 > 0:47:06I didn't take everyone in the bank thinks that is what will happen
0:47:06 > 0:47:09necessarily but they say they must make sure the financial institutions
0:47:09 > 0:47:14in London are prepared for what might be described as the worst.
0:47:14 > 0:47:19Some in the bag are optimistic that there will be a much more closer
0:47:19 > 0:47:23deal between financial services in London and financial services in the
0:47:23 > 0:47:26European Union and the rest of the European Union. Not just because
0:47:26 > 0:47:31that is important for the UK but also important for the European
0:47:31 > 0:47:35Union. London is the global financial centre for Europe. It
0:47:35 > 0:47:40funds not only British businesses but also helps to fund European
0:47:40 > 0:47:45governments and European businesses, helps them to raise money. It has
0:47:45 > 0:47:49got very deep capital markets and therefore the bank, best suggestion
0:47:49 > 0:47:53of 75,000 jobs I think is what many people would describe as a
0:47:53 > 0:47:58worst-case scenario. That does not mean that London itself. Being the
0:47:58 > 0:48:01global financial capital.To what extent do the numbers play into the
0:48:01 > 0:48:04government planning as they are going through the negotiating
0:48:04 > 0:48:12process?On financial services it is going to be one of the toughest
0:48:12 > 0:48:16challenges for the Brexit negotiators on both sides.
0:48:16 > 0:48:21Disentangling 40 years of history where financial, London has been the
0:48:21 > 0:48:26gateway to the rest of the EU. On the British side are financial
0:48:26 > 0:48:30services, we have a trade surplus with the rest of the EU on financial
0:48:30 > 0:48:35services so economically for balance of payments in Britain financial
0:48:35 > 0:48:39services are very important. And for the European side they are important
0:48:39 > 0:48:46for raising funds for European Union companies, governments that and also
0:48:46 > 0:48:47for the foreign exchange transactions that mostly take place
0:48:47 > 0:48:53in London for the rest of the European Union. So when it comes to
0:48:53 > 0:48:56the financial sector itself this is a high-stakes, very important but of
0:48:56 > 0:49:01course the free trade deal including financial services is unusual. And
0:49:01 > 0:49:06not something that usually a free trade deal encompasses so it will be
0:49:06 > 0:49:10a very challenging area for both sides to meet. That is why I think
0:49:10 > 0:49:15the banker said you must prepare for a no deal is that is at least one
0:49:15 > 0:49:26possible outcome of these negotiations. -- the bank has said.
0:49:26 > 0:49:29Christian, you're meant to be part of that interview but you got lost
0:49:29 > 0:49:39literally in your own BBC building! Let's gloss that! What would you
0:49:39 > 0:49:42have asked? Well I'm rather sceptical about this because I sat
0:49:42 > 0:49:46on a panel with Sir Malcolm Rifkind last week and he said 75,000 jobs
0:49:46 > 0:49:54sounds like a lot but when you look at 1.1 million people working in the
0:49:54 > 0:49:59City of London, this is less than six or 7%. And many banks have said
0:49:59 > 0:50:06we're going move, JP Morgan said that and they have revised that now.
0:50:06 > 0:50:15Swiss bank, UBS, moving 250 jobs instead of 1000. They have to make
0:50:15 > 0:50:18arrangements but as the chief executive of Barclays said, Brexit
0:50:18 > 0:50:24was no more complicated than setting up a whole new company in America.
0:50:24 > 0:50:30And I still maintain many of these banks will move offices to big
0:50:30 > 0:50:37cities but will keep the bulk of their staff here. Take the stairs
0:50:37 > 0:50:40next time! While we heard about the labour crisis in the fruit and
0:50:40 > 0:50:47vegetable picking industry but also now the dairy industry. But some
0:50:47 > 0:50:58farmers see Brexit as an opportunity.
0:50:59 > 0:51:01Imagine pure English pasture with contented cows,
0:51:01 > 0:51:02farms that have high welfare standards, producing
0:51:02 > 0:51:03high quality milk.
0:51:03 > 0:51:06This is all material for a powerful sales pitch,
0:51:06 > 0:51:08and it's helping to open up markets outside Europe.
0:51:08 > 0:51:10At this plant in Birmingham, something is happening that's
0:51:10 > 0:51:12never been done before - fresh British milk is packaged up
0:51:13 > 0:51:17to be sent 4,000 miles to Qatar.
0:51:17 > 0:51:20And now milk from here in Cheshire and the surrounding counties is soon
0:51:20 > 0:51:25to be transported even further afield, to China.
0:51:25 > 0:51:28The Chinese have said they find it more simple to deal just with the UK
0:51:28 > 0:51:31rather than the whole of Europe.
0:51:31 > 0:51:33Would this be happening without the Brexit vote?
0:51:33 > 0:51:36I believe not.
0:51:36 > 0:51:39We were sat with some very high decorated officials from the Chinese
0:51:39 > 0:51:41government and one of the comments that was made was that, look,
0:51:41 > 0:51:44it's very easy to do a deal with one country,
0:51:44 > 0:51:49very difficult to do a deal with 27 countries.
0:51:49 > 0:51:52The Brexit deal is crucial to the industry, the vast majority
0:51:52 > 0:51:55of produce is exported to Europe, and the UK relies heavily
0:51:55 > 0:51:59on dairy imports.
0:51:59 > 0:52:01Let's have a look at some of the figures about the industry.
0:52:01 > 0:52:04The number of dairy farmers has shrunk dramatically.
0:52:04 > 0:52:06Around 20 years ago, there were some 35,000 dairy farmers -
0:52:06 > 0:52:11now that's down to around 13.
0:52:11 > 0:52:14And as for the average price of a pint of milk, that has gone up,
0:52:14 > 0:52:17by not very much though, from around 36 pence to around 43
0:52:17 > 0:52:20pence, and many dairy farmers say that's not enough for them to earn
0:52:20 > 0:52:27a decent living.
0:52:27 > 0:52:30One of the main concerns for dairy farmers now is labour.
0:52:30 > 0:52:31Go on.
0:52:31 > 0:52:33It takes skill to operate the machinery and handle
0:52:33 > 0:52:38the animals, but few in the UK want to do the job, so now almost
0:52:38 > 0:52:45two-thirds of dairy farms employ foreign staff.
0:52:45 > 0:52:47David Brookes relies on his family to help
0:52:47 > 0:52:50run his farm in Staffordshire.
0:52:50 > 0:52:52What would it mean for the dairy industry if controls
0:52:52 > 0:52:55were placed on migrant workers?
0:52:55 > 0:52:59Any farm that's been reliant on a migrant labour force,
0:52:59 > 0:53:03and there a good many that have built up their business models
0:53:03 > 0:53:09with large labour requirements, I think they'd struggle, certainly.
0:53:09 > 0:53:12This is one of the Cheshire farms now providing the milk
0:53:12 > 0:53:14to Qatar and China.
0:53:14 > 0:53:16James and Rhiannan had been considering giving
0:53:16 > 0:53:19up their family business, but not now.
0:53:19 > 0:53:22We feel hopeful and it gives us a chance to feel, right,
0:53:22 > 0:53:26we can start to continue to invest in this business and improve it.
0:53:26 > 0:53:31But specific talks over a future trade deal haven't even started.
0:53:31 > 0:53:33It's up to those around the negotiating table
0:53:33 > 0:53:37to decide the future of the UK's farming landscape.
0:53:37 > 0:53:46Claire Marshall, BBC News, Cheshire.
0:53:46 > 0:53:52Some breaking news we're getting from Manhattan, several people
0:53:52 > 0:54:00injured in downtown Manhattan according to police. They have said
0:54:00 > 0:54:07one person is in custody. Not much detail apart from that. It happened
0:54:07 > 0:54:11in the upmarket neighbourhood of Chambers and West Street.That is
0:54:11 > 0:54:16close to the BBC offices, the studio we were in when we did the programme
0:54:16 > 0:54:20yesterday is down on the lower west side. And it is where police
0:54:20 > 0:54:24apparently are telling the public not to go to that area, to avoid the
0:54:24 > 0:54:28West side Highway. You can see that there if you zoom in, close to the
0:54:28 > 0:54:33World Trade Center. Anyone who has visited may well have been in this
0:54:33 > 0:54:39neighbourhood. But we are getting very few details. We have one tweet
0:54:39 > 0:54:45from the Manhattan, from the New York Police Department and we are
0:54:45 > 0:54:49responding to reports of shots fired in lower Manhattan. More details
0:54:49 > 0:54:53when they are available. That is all we have at the moment. Of course we
0:54:53 > 0:55:03will carry on following that. Yesterday we told you about the
0:55:03 > 0:55:05financial planner George Papadopoulos who got mistaken for
0:55:05 > 0:55:08the Trump aid on Twitter and he was on the receiving end of some angry
0:55:08 > 0:55:14tweets. Other users with famous names have been through similar
0:55:14 > 0:55:20mix-ups and they tweeted in solidarity.Singer Michael Bolton,
0:55:20 > 0:55:28his tweet, let's just take a look at that. I feel your pain, brother.
0:55:28 > 0:55:34James Taylor chimed in, we should record together. And then John
0:55:34 > 0:55:45Ratzenberger joined in. Can we start a support group? I did e-mail George
0:55:45 > 0:55:48Papadopoulos today, he is with his mother in Greece and could not come
0:55:48 > 0:55:55on to speak to us. He sent me a nice e-mail and I replied, probably the
0:55:55 > 0:56:02nicest message he has had in the past 24 hours!