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0:00:00 > 0:00:01nobody saw it, he paid for it himself, so he would qualify for the

0:00:01 > 0:00:07Academy Awards.Was never going to happen, was it?It has cult status,

0:00:07 > 0:00:13the original film.Since then.The rituals that people have when they

0:00:13 > 0:00:19see Ed, the cutlery?In a way it's the new Rocky Horror picture show,

0:00:19 > 0:00:22there is this audience participation. It has gone on for 14

0:00:22 > 0:00:27and a half years and there are specific call-backs to the screen.

0:00:27 > 0:00:32One thing people do, they bring plastic spoons because in the film

0:00:32 > 0:00:36there are these picture frames with spoons in them.How did you notice

0:00:36 > 0:00:42that?You've got to watch The Room with people who have seen it a bunch

0:00:42 > 0:00:46of times, there are a bunch of Easter wrecks.When they made the

0:00:46 > 0:00:51original movie they said to Tommy, the director, shouldn't we have some

0:00:51 > 0:00:56pictures on the wall, make it look like people live here -- Easter

0:00:56 > 0:01:04eggs. There were stock photos of spoons and they said, Tommy, should

0:01:04 > 0:01:08we put photos of the characters so it looks like they live here? He

0:01:08 > 0:01:11said, don't worry, if they are looking at the spoons they are

0:01:11 > 0:01:16looking at the wrong thing. 14 years later, whenever the spoons come up,

0:01:16 > 0:01:24people yell spoons in the theatre and throw plastic spoons.It could

0:01:24 > 0:01:29be real knives and forks which would be more dangerous. We would like

0:01:29 > 0:01:33photos of you with your brothers, because we have James and Dave with

0:01:33 > 0:01:37us. Tell us what you do together, send us a photo and we will show you

0:01:37 > 0:01:40at the end of the show.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43In a moment we'll be meeting a lurcher called Red

0:01:43 > 0:01:45who is looking for a home. He was abandoned by hare

0:01:45 > 0:01:47coursers, criminals who use dogs to

0:01:47 > 0:01:49I'm hoping that the next leadership, even during the transition, must set

0:01:49 > 0:01:52in a new trajectory were people are respected and that the rule of law

0:01:52 > 0:01:55is restored.My hope and wish is that we are able to craft a

0:01:55 > 0:01:57transitional framework for the next elections which will put in place

0:01:57 > 0:02:00the issue of reforms, the issue of free and fair elections as per the

0:02:00 > 0:02:02Constitution. We will look back to this day with a hearty degree of

0:02:02 > 0:02:05nostalgia because it's something that they have been wishing for the

0:02:05 > 0:02:07last five years but has been very difficult to achieve because of the

0:02:07 > 0:02:10machinery that has been put to prevent it. So, like in any new

0:02:10 > 0:02:12birth, I think the celebration represents a new feeling, and I

0:02:12 > 0:02:15think it will go down like in 1980, when we got our independence as a

0:02:15 > 0:02:16very memorable occasion.

0:02:16 > 0:02:18And frankly astounded. This third veto in the month clearly exposes,

0:02:18 > 0:02:20if it wasn't already obvious, Russia's determination to protect

0:02:20 > 0:02:22the Syrian ally, whatever the harm that causes. To the ban on the use

0:02:22 > 0:02:25of chemical weapons to the wider international system of rules to

0:02:25 > 0:02:39Russia's own reputation. A potentially elongated.

0:02:39 > 0:02:42My colleague, the BBC Africa editor, Fergal Keane, was in the chamber

0:02:42 > 0:02:43when the announcement was made.

0:02:43 > 0:02:46We're here, right at the moment that they've heard that Robert Mugabe has

0:02:46 > 0:02:49resigned from the presidency, and you can hear it -

0:02:49 > 0:02:51cheering from Zanu-PF MPs, from opposition MPs and from members

0:02:51 > 0:03:02of the public who've come here to witness what's happening.

0:03:02 > 0:03:04They didn't expect it and thought that this could be a potentially

0:03:04 > 0:03:06elongated process of impeachment, but it hasn't happened.

0:03:06 > 0:03:13He's gone, it's over.

0:03:13 > 0:03:15Scenes of wild celebration INAUDIBLE

0:03:15 > 0:03:19After 37 years and a promising start,

0:03:19 > 0:03:23it's an embarrassing end for one of Africa's last INAUDIBLE.

0:03:23 > 0:03:26This is a good day for Zimbabwe, a new era for our nation.

0:03:26 > 0:03:3037 years with one president, it doesn't make any sense.

0:03:30 > 0:03:32I'm very happy.

0:03:32 > 0:03:35I don't have anything to say, but I'm happy with this.

0:03:35 > 0:03:38Mugabe was...

0:03:38 > 0:03:42I don't have any words to say now.

0:03:42 > 0:03:46There was an air of expectation earlier.

0:03:46 > 0:03:49Parliament had resolved that, if he wouldn't resign,

0:03:49 > 0:03:52he would be impeached.

0:03:52 > 0:03:53This is a people's project, we are a people's party.

0:03:53 > 0:03:55We believe in people's resolutions.

0:03:55 > 0:03:56And let it go.

0:03:56 > 0:03:58And what if it fails?

0:03:58 > 0:04:00It will never fail.

0:04:00 > 0:04:02The people have never failed.

0:04:02 > 0:04:05Waiting in the wings now is Emmerson Mnangagwa,

0:04:05 > 0:04:06a long-time assistant and Vice President whom Robert

0:04:06 > 0:04:10Mugabe sacked just last week.

0:04:10 > 0:04:19The weight of the expectation is now on him to fix this broken country.

0:04:19 > 0:04:21For now, Zimbabweans are savouring the moment

0:04:21 > 0:04:22they thought would never come.

0:04:22 > 0:04:29Mr Mugabe is no longer the president of Zimbabwe.

0:04:29 > 0:04:38Let's go straight over to Harare now, where the BBC's Ben Brown is.

0:04:38 > 0:04:43What is the atmosphere bike on the streets of Harare?It is an amazing

0:04:43 > 0:04:48atmosphere and has been ever since the news came out that Robert Mugabe

0:04:48 > 0:04:52and finally resigned. The news was read out in Parliament just over

0:04:52 > 0:04:56there behind me were all these people have been celebrating ever

0:04:56 > 0:05:01since and because the impeachment process had started, most people

0:05:01 > 0:05:04were expecting that impeachment to just continue, they did not know how

0:05:04 > 0:05:08long it would take, but in the end, on the first day of the impeachment

0:05:08 > 0:05:13process, Robert Mugabe just decided to resign and people have been

0:05:13 > 0:05:18dancing on the streets for the last few hours, blaring their car horns

0:05:18 > 0:05:22and partying. It will be a party that will go on all night. Let's

0:05:22 > 0:05:27talk to one person here. What does this mean to you, the fact that

0:05:27 > 0:05:36Robert Mugabe, after 37 years, has resigned?It is a beginning. I am so

0:05:36 > 0:05:39happy. We are all so overwhelmed. We never thought this would happen

0:05:39 > 0:05:52after 37 years. On Saturday, we came out, and we want to thank the Army

0:05:52 > 0:06:02general for making Saturday a success for us all to be out.It has

0:06:02 > 0:06:10been hard for the Zimbabweans. We are tired of these political parties

0:06:10 > 0:06:18of Zanu-PF. People are suffering in the streets. Everything was brutal.

0:06:18 > 0:06:22We were tired of the government of Zanu-PF are now we want something

0:06:22 > 0:06:28new, we want a different government. I hope this resignation has brought

0:06:28 > 0:06:36a big change in the country.We graduates but we not working. We

0:06:36 > 0:06:40were going to work but they stopped us going to work. They did not even

0:06:40 > 0:06:49pay us.That is just a flavour of the celebrations that there are in

0:06:49 > 0:06:53the people here who have been demonstrating in front of Parliament

0:06:53 > 0:07:00whether resignation was announced. They will be partying. Goodbye,

0:07:00 > 0:07:13Mugabe, is the message.Very lively streets of Harare the night.

0:07:13 > 0:07:15And joining us now is the US Senator, Chris Coons,

0:07:15 > 0:07:17who in Congress sits on the Foreign Relations

0:07:17 > 0:07:19Africa Subcommittee.

0:07:19 > 0:07:26We spoke to you before Mugabe fell. Incredibly happy voices on the

0:07:26 > 0:07:31streets of Harare tonight. IQ optimistic about the future of the

0:07:31 > 0:07:35country now?This is a historic moment for the people of Zimbabwe.

0:07:35 > 0:07:41The 37 years, Robert Mugabe has been a president who became a dictator.

0:07:41 > 0:07:46The economy is in a shambles, there have been violations of human rights

0:07:46 > 0:07:50and ways in which democracy has been thwarted since the 2008 election

0:07:50 > 0:07:55that Mugabe lost but somehow manoeuvred to be able to renege as

0:07:55 > 0:07:58president. I am hopeful there will be a peaceful transition of power.

0:07:58 > 0:08:03Mugabe has resigned and has called for peaceful transition, but this

0:08:03 > 0:08:10will be up to the people of Zimbabwe, regional leaders from the

0:08:10 > 0:08:15African union, to insist on an inclusive and open process. My hopes

0:08:15 > 0:08:20are that the transition will respect rule of law and lead to an open and

0:08:20 > 0:08:24inclusive election in which there will be a democratic process to

0:08:24 > 0:08:28choose the future leadership of Zimbabwe reform the economy and

0:08:28 > 0:08:32repair the health of the country.We have been here before with other

0:08:32 > 0:08:36African leaders who have been proposed. The lesson is there is a

0:08:36 > 0:08:40very short window of the international community to get in

0:08:40 > 0:08:44there and enact reform and get the economy working again. What could

0:08:44 > 0:08:49the United States do to help Zimbabwe?The United States imposed

0:08:49 > 0:08:55a fairly strong sanction against Zimbabwe many years ago against both

0:08:55 > 0:08:59Robert Mugabe and some of his inner circle of advisers as well as

0:08:59 > 0:09:03impacting the country as a whole. The United States continues to

0:09:03 > 0:09:09provide humanitarian relief because of the famine, drought, throughout

0:09:09 > 0:09:14Zimbabwe, but we do not provide any direct government to government

0:09:14 > 0:09:17assistance. If the new government of Zimbabwe presents itself as being

0:09:17 > 0:09:22more transparent and open to reform, the United States could consider

0:09:22 > 0:09:26lifting some or all of those sanctions. We could be a strong

0:09:26 > 0:09:32partner with Zimbabwe that the future development. Along with our

0:09:32 > 0:09:37ally the United Kingdom and others, we could create an environment to

0:09:37 > 0:09:43improve Zimbabwe's economy as long as there is respect for human rights

0:09:43 > 0:09:46and transparency and democracy that has been lacking for the last 37

0:09:46 > 0:09:50years.But you will also know there will be a scramble for control in

0:09:50 > 0:09:54the era of the new government, whatever shape that government is.

0:09:54 > 0:09:58China has been very good partner for Zimbabwe in recent years. It is

0:09:58 > 0:10:02likely that the West will try to move him and perhaps regain some

0:10:02 > 0:10:09control had.My hope is that the transition will be one that will

0:10:09 > 0:10:14allow for more openness. It seems likely that Emmerson Mnangagwa will

0:10:14 > 0:10:22be sworn in as the new president and that Morgan Tsvangirai, the

0:10:22 > 0:10:27opposition leader, or play some role. It is my hope that these

0:10:27 > 0:10:33gentlemen and others will view the transition as an opportunity to

0:10:33 > 0:10:36establish new standards for conduct of rule of law and openness to

0:10:36 > 0:10:39engage with the West and in particular the United States and the

0:10:39 > 0:10:45UK.We are seeing live pictures coming in from Harare as you are

0:10:45 > 0:10:49speaking of soldiers on the top of tanks being embraced by the people

0:10:49 > 0:10:52on the streets of Harare. They had a tricky relationship with the

0:10:52 > 0:10:58military but today at least they feel very excited. I want to pick up

0:10:58 > 0:11:02on this balance of power in Africa with the Chinese. Are you concerned

0:11:02 > 0:11:10that China steps in, it has clout in what is an important southern

0:11:10 > 0:11:13African country at a time when America is withdrawing its influence

0:11:13 > 0:11:19around the world?I am very concerned about the lack of an

0:11:19 > 0:11:23active forward leading presents by the United States. The last American

0:11:23 > 0:11:32delegation to visit Zimbabwe was led by my friend. He and I and two other

0:11:32 > 0:11:37senators and congressmen have visited Southern Africa in February

0:11:37 > 0:11:422016, we met with Robert Mugabe, and extremely troubling meeting, and I

0:11:42 > 0:11:47expressed concerns. I think that China has a significant foothold in

0:11:47 > 0:11:53Zimbabwe. They trained many of the liberation struggle leaders and have

0:11:53 > 0:11:56a strong economic presence. China and the United States have a

0:11:56 > 0:12:02different approach to engagement in Africa. They do not advocate for

0:12:02 > 0:12:06democracy, free press on human rights and are more interested in

0:12:06 > 0:12:11economic relationships. It is time for China to stand up for

0:12:11 > 0:12:15international standards in terms of how we conduct business across

0:12:15 > 0:12:19Africa and for the people of countries like Zimbabwe to have a

0:12:19 > 0:12:24voice in the future of the nation.

0:12:24 > 0:12:26One of the few Zimbabwean politicians who dared

0:12:26 > 0:12:28to challenge Mugabe, despite the violence

0:12:28 > 0:12:30and the murder of his supporters, was Morgan Tsvangirai,

0:12:30 > 0:12:31leader of the opposition MDC.

0:12:31 > 0:12:34This week, he returned to the country from South Africa,

0:12:34 > 0:12:36where he has been receiving treatment for colon cancer.

0:12:36 > 0:12:39This was his reaction to the news.

0:12:39 > 0:12:44I'm hoping that the next leadership, even during the transition,

0:12:44 > 0:12:51must set in a new trajectory where people are respected and that

0:12:51 > 0:12:54the rule of law is restored.

0:12:54 > 0:12:59My hope and wish is that we are able to craft a transitional framework

0:12:59 > 0:13:05for the next elections which will put in place

0:13:05 > 0:13:11the issue of reforms, the issue of free and fair elections

0:13:11 > 0:13:14as per the Constitution.

0:13:14 > 0:13:20We will look back to this day with a hearty degree of nostalgia

0:13:20 > 0:13:25because it's something that they have been wishing

0:13:25 > 0:13:29for the last five years but has been very difficult to achieve

0:13:29 > 0:13:34because of the machinery that has been put to prevent it.

0:13:34 > 0:13:37So, like in any new birth, I think the celebration

0:13:37 > 0:13:43represents a new feeling, and I think it will go

0:13:43 > 0:13:47down like in 1980, when we got our independence

0:13:47 > 0:13:53as a very memorable occasion.

0:13:53 > 0:13:55Alex Magaisa is the former adviser to Morgan Tsvangirai,

0:13:55 > 0:13:56the MDC opposition leader.

0:13:56 > 0:14:04He's been with us since the news broke.

0:14:04 > 0:14:12I went to see him 15 years ago and the time he had been beaten, he was

0:14:12 > 0:14:19on a charge of trying to assassinate Robert Mugabe. It is sad actually,

0:14:19 > 0:14:25at this point when the country is rejoicing, to see him in poor health

0:14:25 > 0:14:31at a time when he could have a big role to play.Absolutely. He has

0:14:31 > 0:14:36been a courageous fighter. He has been a hero for the people of

0:14:36 > 0:14:40Zimbabwe for even the war veterans in Zimbabwe who pay tribute to him,

0:14:40 > 0:14:44he is one of the few people who stood up against Mugabe to take a

0:14:44 > 0:14:50leading role. But we must not forget that people have died trying to get

0:14:50 > 0:14:56rid of Mugabe, people who lost limbs and property. On this day, while

0:14:56 > 0:14:59people celebrate, it is important to remember that there are families and

0:14:59 > 0:15:02people who have lost loved ones as a result of this person who has left

0:15:02 > 0:15:08office after so much pressure.You were listening to the senator when

0:15:08 > 0:15:12he was talking. It said the international community will have to

0:15:12 > 0:15:17play a role in putting Zimbabwe back on its feet. Looking at the

0:15:17 > 0:15:23statistics, 95% unemployment rate in the country. Foreign reserves are

0:15:23 > 0:15:28about to run out. There is a $100 limit on withdrawals. The country is

0:15:28 > 0:15:36in ruin!The economy is one of the major casualties of this regime. Mr

0:15:36 > 0:15:40Mugabe may have had an economics degree, but he had no clue how to

0:15:40 > 0:15:47run an economy. People talk about human rights violations and

0:15:47 > 0:15:50discrimination and recriminations we saw, the people are concerned about

0:15:50 > 0:15:55the economy. These are the huge challenges that Zimbabwe faces. It

0:15:55 > 0:16:01is important for the international community. We look everybody. I do

0:16:01 > 0:16:05not think it is a route we should take with us. In the past, we had

0:16:05 > 0:16:10the selective approach when Mr Mugabe was saying, I look East and

0:16:10 > 0:16:15he slams the West. It is important to understand that it is about the

0:16:15 > 0:16:19interests of Zimbabwe. Thankfully, Zimbabwe is a country that a lot of

0:16:19 > 0:16:24people do care for, do look to something that can be developed and

0:16:24 > 0:16:31become a beacon, not just for Africa, both of the world.There is

0:16:31 > 0:16:39so much potential. It is a country that is rich in resources and

0:16:39 > 0:16:42education levels. I am just wondering whether Alex thinks that

0:16:42 > 0:16:48whoever takes over can implement reforms and implement them fast

0:16:48 > 0:16:51because to capitalise on this moment, presumably those reforms had

0:16:51 > 0:16:58come pretty quickly?There is so much goodwill. We are hearing from

0:16:58 > 0:17:02the international community. I believe that whoever will take over,

0:17:02 > 0:17:07and I think we know it is Morgan Tsvangirai, he has to show

0:17:07 > 0:17:12leadership. That will include taking an inconclusive and transparent

0:17:12 > 0:17:16approach. We saw people demonstrating and exercising their

0:17:16 > 0:17:20rights on Saturday. That should not be a one-day affair, that should be

0:17:20 > 0:17:24the new culture for Zimbabwe embraces. We hope he will show that

0:17:24 > 0:17:28leadership because he is coming from a system that was so bad that people

0:17:28 > 0:17:33are only looking to a brighter future. They are saying the only way

0:17:33 > 0:17:38is up and we hope people. Promise and we do not have another 1980

0:17:38 > 0:17:43moment. We ended up with a huge disaster on our hands when we

0:17:43 > 0:17:49celebrated them.We do hope the future is brighter.

0:17:49 > 0:17:52Will there ever be a day of reckoning for the Syrian

0:17:52 > 0:17:53President, Bashar al-Assad?

0:17:53 > 0:17:56Twice last week, Russia vetoed a move by the UN Security Council

0:17:56 > 0:18:01to extend the investigation into use of chemical weapons in Syria.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03In thanks, perhaps, the Syrian President paid a surprise

0:18:03 > 0:18:08visit to Sochi yesterday to hug Vladimir Putin - literally.

0:18:08 > 0:18:11Mr Putin is taking full credit for Mr Assad remaining in power,

0:18:11 > 0:18:17saying the Russian army saved the Syrian state.

0:18:17 > 0:18:20This year, more than 80 people were killed in a sarin attack

0:18:20 > 0:18:22on the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhun -

0:18:22 > 0:18:25an attack that prompted President Trump to launch 59

0:18:25 > 0:18:32Tomahawk cruise missiles at a Syrian airbase.

0:18:32 > 0:18:34The joint report from the United Nations and international

0:18:34 > 0:18:37chemical weapons inspectors determined that Assad

0:18:37 > 0:18:39was responsible, and yet Russia continues to defend him,

0:18:39 > 0:18:44to the incredulity of those sitting at the UN table.

0:18:44 > 0:18:46I'm frankly astounded.

0:18:46 > 0:18:49This third veto in a month clearly exposes, if it

0:18:49 > 0:18:52wasn't already obvious, Russia's determination

0:18:52 > 0:18:56to protect their Syrian ally, whatever the harm that causes,

0:18:56 > 0:19:04to the ban on the use of chemical weapons to the wider

0:19:04 > 0:19:09international system of rules to Russia's own reputation.

0:19:09 > 0:19:12President Assad's trip to Sochi is the first time he has

0:19:12 > 0:19:14left his country in two years.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16The bearhug tells you all you need to know -

0:19:16 > 0:19:19he would no longer be in power were it not for the

0:19:19 > 0:19:20Russian intervention.

0:19:20 > 0:19:21So what comes next?

0:19:21 > 0:19:23Tomorrow, the Russian President has meetings with leaders

0:19:23 > 0:19:25from Iran and Turkey.

0:19:25 > 0:19:28He is due to speak to President Trump again after that meeting.

0:19:28 > 0:19:31But does the US have any role anymore in the process?

0:19:31 > 0:19:33Thomas Pickering was a US ambassador to Russia and joins us

0:19:33 > 0:19:41now from Washington.

0:19:41 > 0:19:45Many people watching will have serious distaste for the fact that

0:19:45 > 0:19:51Mr Assad is now part of the peace process.I think that is right. On

0:19:51 > 0:20:00the other hand, it should come as no surprise or shock as recently as a

0:20:00 > 0:20:05year ago, the Obama administration, without saying much about it, had

0:20:05 > 0:20:07accepted the fact that what Henry Kissinger used to say about this,

0:20:07 > 0:20:13that Assad would have to be in at the beginning but out at the end,

0:20:13 > 0:20:17would be a more realistic view that the notion that before any talks

0:20:17 > 0:20:22could begin, certainly with US participation, Assad had to be gone,

0:20:22 > 0:20:28which I think was perhaps a wonderful aspiration of political

0:20:28 > 0:20:36non-feasibility.But has the United States effectively ceded control of

0:20:36 > 0:20:41this peace process to Russia? It was not long ago that the Americans

0:20:41 > 0:20:44under President Obama were at least calling these meetings are now they

0:20:44 > 0:20:48are not even invited to the table. It appears at least at this stage

0:20:48 > 0:20:53for the good bit of seeding has taken place, not just to Russia, but

0:20:53 > 0:20:59to the Russia, Iran, Turkey triumvirate which will meet in

0:20:59 > 0:21:06Saatchi on Wednesday, tomorrow, and will hold a conference of Syrian

0:21:06 > 0:21:11peoples, seemingly a representative group of the people who support

0:21:11 > 0:21:17Assad or at least are not supporting the anti-Assad group. Turkey has had

0:21:17 > 0:21:21problems with that because there will be Kurds present but they seem

0:21:21 > 0:21:26to be resolved. But what we heard from Putin and Assad is an awful lot

0:21:26 > 0:21:29of processed but not much in the way of politics in terms of how they

0:21:29 > 0:21:34will solve this particular problem. We have seen a lot of things from

0:21:34 > 0:21:42the side including de-escalations owns which seem to be the precursors

0:21:42 > 0:21:47of the soft partition of Syria looming in the background. One

0:21:47 > 0:21:49wonders in fact whether, as President Putin announces his

0:21:49 > 0:21:53departure for the third time, whether that will be realistic or

0:21:53 > 0:21:57not it actually mean anything or whether in fact it is just another

0:21:57 > 0:22:02stage in Russia scaling down but still hanging on quite tightly to

0:22:02 > 0:22:07its searing objectives.Isn't part of the problem, when it comes to

0:22:07 > 0:22:11Assad, the weakness of the UN Security Council? If they were

0:22:11 > 0:22:16speaking with one voice, he would have to go, but continually, whether

0:22:16 > 0:22:19it comes to the conflict itself whether it is the investigation into

0:22:19 > 0:22:26chemical weapons, it is Russia that exercises its veto.That is quite

0:22:26 > 0:22:29right. The Security Council and the Russian veto at another indication

0:22:29 > 0:22:34of what I would call limited progress. We have the depend on

0:22:34 > 0:22:43that. The UN seems to be excluded from the meeting or at least the

0:22:43 > 0:22:48negotiator may well be hovering in the background somewhere.There had

0:22:48 > 0:22:51been some hope that the Russians might at least use their influence

0:22:51 > 0:22:56to try to stop chemical weapons. Are we giving up on that prospect as

0:22:56 > 0:23:03well?The Trump administration shows a sense of non-engagement. Maybe

0:23:03 > 0:23:06because they are overwhelmed by higher priorities like North Korea

0:23:06 > 0:23:14and so on. But in some ways, it is a continuing example of the fact that

0:23:14 > 0:23:26the State Department is understaffed, what they are focusing

0:23:26 > 0:23:30on is high priority issues that seem to be left out to pasture here from

0:23:30 > 0:23:34the point of view of the United States. We cannot then expect much

0:23:34 > 0:23:41in the way the US influence. Putin will call Trump, but I do not know

0:23:41 > 0:23:47what that will produce. Last famous call they had Putin suggesting

0:23:47 > 0:23:51nuclear disarmament and Trump was not sure what that meant. He

0:23:51 > 0:23:58answered in the negative.The veto they have just exercised at the

0:23:58 > 0:24:07Security Council was for an American bill. So where is this that resident

0:24:07 > 0:24:13Trump had promised between Russia and the United States?We do not see

0:24:13 > 0:24:18much coming out of it. Putin holds the line quite strongly and stiffly

0:24:18 > 0:24:25in the areas he is most interested in securing Russian interests. Trump

0:24:25 > 0:24:28seems to be on the sideline, unwilling to criticise Putin,

0:24:28 > 0:24:33although the rest of the United States is quite vehemently. On the

0:24:33 > 0:24:39other hand unable to get Mr Putin to do very much to support what is

0:24:39 > 0:24:43American policy and, after all, Putin jumped in with Obama and said,

0:24:43 > 0:24:47let's get rid of the chemical weapons. When that happened two

0:24:47 > 0:24:54years ago. There is a Russian interest in performing on the

0:24:54 > 0:24:59chemical weapons account in large measure because of his partial

0:24:59 > 0:25:06authorship of that particular question.It is interesting. We have

0:25:06 > 0:25:12the case of the Russians and the Syrians, the case of Zimbabwe, we

0:25:12 > 0:25:16are looking at those live pictures from Harare right now, and in both

0:25:16 > 0:25:20cases there are questions about American engagement over the

0:25:20 > 0:25:25engagement of some other power, beat Moscow or Beijing. As these

0:25:25 > 0:25:28momentous events unfold around the world, the question of American

0:25:28 > 0:25:34involvement and leadership.Also questions about accountability.

0:25:34 > 0:25:38We're talking about two leaders who have carried out on the old abuse

0:25:38 > 0:25:44against the all bone people are getting off scot-free. Where will

0:25:44 > 0:25:47Robert Mugabe go? There was thought he might go to South Africa but in

0:25:47 > 0:25:52fact there is a charge is wife is facing in South Africa so maybe

0:25:52 > 0:25:55Malaysia and Singapore where they have departments. Maybe that will be

0:25:55 > 0:26:06the final destination.

0:26:11 > 0:26:16Some outbreaks of rain affecting many parts of the UK this evening

0:26:16 > 0:26:21but wet and windy weather on the way tomorrow. This is one Weather Watch

0:26:21 > 0:26:24abuse from Cambridge. Hard-pressed to find much in the way of sunshine

0:26:24 > 0:26:28tomorrow. The winds had been picking up, blustery night. Those winds will

0:26:28 > 0:26:32get stronger into the day tomorrow. Some of the rain overnight will

0:26:32 > 0:26:37leave the time that this next batch fringing in the Northern Ireland

0:26:37 > 0:26:42become significant. A mild start across England and Wales with

0:26:42 > 0:26:48temperatures into double figures. Well into double figures. But it is

0:26:48 > 0:26:52windy. Cloud around, many places dry. That's rain edging into the

0:26:52 > 0:26:59western and northern parts of Wales. It will be persistent. We could see

0:26:59 > 0:27:03up to 100 millimetres of rain by the time we had done. But it started in

0:27:03 > 0:27:08Belfast. Across much of Scotland it will be dry. Rain and snow in the

0:27:08 > 0:27:12very far north. This is the main area of rain through the day. They

0:27:12 > 0:27:17just to pull away eastwards from Northern Ireland, pushes into

0:27:17 > 0:27:20northern England and southern Scotland. Very wet air into the

0:27:20 > 0:27:23Southern Uplands. Notice the wind arrows. The wind strengthening in

0:27:23 > 0:27:30England and Wales with gales developing, maybe up to 70 mph. A

0:27:30 > 0:27:34bit cooler for Scotland and Northern Ireland. Things may be OK travel

0:27:34 > 0:27:41wise but coming home in the evening, with rain in places, strong

0:27:41 > 0:27:46destructive winds, there could be problems. On Thursday, be aware,

0:27:46 > 0:27:50northern Scotland, snow. Low levels to begin with. A dry day for many of

0:27:50 > 0:27:55us on Thursday. Still very mild for much of England and Wales.

0:27:55 > 0:27:59Especially when we get sunshine. Still blustery, the winds easing a

0:27:59 > 0:28:06bit. Colder air pushes south across the UK but a complication comes in.

0:28:06 > 0:28:09Another area of low pressure. Uncertainty about weather rain will

0:28:09 > 0:28:15go. Some will have a very wet day on Friday. As that pulls away, they

0:28:15 > 0:28:19cold air completes its journey back south across the UK, right in time

0:28:19 > 0:28:24for the weekend. A fine, dry, sunny day but wintry showers around during

0:28:24 > 0:28:34Saturday, especially in the north and west.

0:30:08 > 0:30:12This is Beyond One Hundred Days, with me Katty Kay in Washington -

0:30:12 > 0:30:15Christian Fraser's in London.

0:30:15 > 0:30:21Our top stories - Robert Mugabe makes a suprise resignation.

0:30:21 > 0:30:23And the jubilant response is immediate.

0:30:23 > 0:30:26This is the scene now in Harare - hours after the news broke people

0:30:26 > 0:30:30can't stop celebrating.

0:30:30 > 0:30:32The dictator is gone but the system survives.

0:30:32 > 0:30:34We will look at what comes next in Zimbabwe after

0:30:34 > 0:30:37years of economic ruin.

0:30:37 > 0:30:39Also coming up in the next half hour.

0:30:39 > 0:30:48President Trump issues his first pardons - to turkeys that is.

0:30:48 > 0:30:51In a holiday tradition - these birds can rest a little easier.

0:30:51 > 0:30:53Let us know your thoughts by using the hashtag.

0:30:53 > 0:30:59'Beyond-One-Hundred-Days'.

0:30:59 > 0:31:04Robert Mugabe has resigned after 37 years as Zimbabwe's President.

0:31:04 > 0:31:05The suprise announcement came after parliament began

0:31:05 > 0:31:08the impeachment process.

0:31:08 > 0:31:14Half way through that session the speaker interrupted the debate -

0:31:14 > 0:31:17it's a bit hard to make out what Jacob Mudenda says but the key

0:31:17 > 0:31:27word is 'resignation' and just watch how the parliament reacts.

0:31:29 > 0:31:35Notice of resignation...CHEERING .

0:31:35 > 0:31:38How do Zimbabweans feel about the events of the last few hours?

0:31:38 > 0:31:40Rashweat and Caroline Mukundu have been in the centre

0:31:40 > 0:31:43of Harare today with - three of their children -

0:31:43 > 0:31:46to celebrate a new era for their country.

0:31:46 > 0:31:53They're now back home again and join us from there.

0:31:53 > 0:31:58Lovely to see you both. You must be full of optimism for your children?

0:31:58 > 0:32:04We are full of optimism, our children are asking us what is

0:32:04 > 0:32:14happening. They have grown up knowing only one leader. It is an

0:32:14 > 0:32:19early Christmas for Zimbabwe. And we did not believe this would ever

0:32:19 > 0:32:24happen in our lifetime. We were suffocating onto the political

0:32:24 > 0:32:31leadership of Robert Mugabe. But right now heavy burden has been

0:32:31 > 0:32:34lifted from our shoulders. Where happy and look forward to the

0:32:34 > 0:32:41future. We will not allow another leadership like Mugabe to come back

0:32:41 > 0:32:48ever again.What is the economic situation like for your family under

0:32:48 > 0:32:54Robert Mugabe recently and how hopeful you that it will get better

0:32:54 > 0:33:02soon?The economic situation has been a heavy burden, I can assure

0:33:02 > 0:33:09you. For the few of us lucky to be employed, you have to kick take care

0:33:09 > 0:33:12of your family, of the health of your parents and siblings, your

0:33:12 > 0:33:19parents-in-law, everyone, in terms of paying fees. Right now even we

0:33:19 > 0:33:39cannot get water, men have no jobs. And we're the military and the loo

0:33:39 > 0:33:44leadership that will come will really look at the economic

0:33:44 > 0:33:51policies. Just new leadership. So that our lives can be improved. It

0:33:51 > 0:33:58has been a heavy burden. And at the end of the month you know whatever

0:33:58 > 0:34:03level you get will have to be split across your extended family.What

0:34:03 > 0:34:12would you say to party leaders today about the kind of future you want?

0:34:12 > 0:34:18I'm 35 years old and the mother of three girls and I'm so excited

0:34:18 > 0:34:24today. I hope at least my children will be able to go to school and

0:34:24 > 0:34:30have books, right now I'm at home and we have no water. And I hope

0:34:30 > 0:34:37that this is a new beginning and we will have everything we need for us

0:34:37 > 0:34:42to be able to feed our children and send them to school.Would you like

0:34:42 > 0:34:49Zanu PF to carry on or would you like a transitional government?We

0:34:49 > 0:34:55want to see a transitional government that overcomes the

0:34:55 > 0:35:04polarisation of the past. We're tired of violence. Tired of people

0:35:04 > 0:35:09inside its by political leaders to beat each other. We do not want to

0:35:09 > 0:35:15go back to the politics of polarisation. And psychologically

0:35:15 > 0:35:19this has helped us really look at who we are. We have enjoyed freedom

0:35:19 > 0:35:23of expression in the past few days, talking about our wishes. And we

0:35:23 > 0:35:30never again want these rights to be taken back. So we hope our political

0:35:30 > 0:35:34leaders will look beyond their selfish interests and beyond the

0:35:34 > 0:35:39politics of party interests to the people of Zimbabwe. This is our wish

0:35:39 > 0:35:48that we're willing to support them and willing to defend our rights.

0:35:48 > 0:35:52Good to see both, thank you so much.

0:35:52 > 0:35:54Earlier, the BBC spoke to Nick Mangwana, the Chairman

0:35:54 > 0:35:56of the Zanu PF UK Committee as news was emerging of

0:35:57 > 0:35:58Mugabe's resignation.

0:35:58 > 0:35:59Nick is has re-joined us.

0:35:59 > 0:36:04So they want Zanu PF to put the country first and not the party.

0:36:04 > 0:36:15They are right, the party was set up to deliver certain political and

0:36:15 > 0:36:20economic outcomes for its people. But people are looking at what might

0:36:20 > 0:36:24be around the corner, the return of the vice president and they're

0:36:24 > 0:36:28saying hang on, this is more of the same.They're wrong, I can reassure

0:36:28 > 0:36:37them of that. In China when Chairman Mao died, some people thought the

0:36:37 > 0:36:45same thing. And in Tanzania when the last president went out, they

0:36:45 > 0:36:58thought the same. A few weeks ago in Angola they thought the same way but

0:36:58 > 0:37:01in all these examples it was the beginning of transformation and

0:37:01 > 0:37:05reform. And the same applies to Zimbabwe, it is the beginning of the

0:37:05 > 0:37:09new year and new dispensation. Elections are coming up next year.

0:37:09 > 0:37:15And for every example that you give there are also examples of regimes

0:37:15 > 0:37:20that have got rid of the leadership but have carried on in an autocratic

0:37:20 > 0:37:25way and you can understand why after 37 years of 1-party rule Zimbabweans

0:37:25 > 0:37:30might feel sceptical that Zanu PF really is prepared to engage in a

0:37:30 > 0:37:42democratic process and perhaps even allow an opposition party to win?

0:37:42 > 0:37:49I'm just hearing your voice! OK, we can assure you that when the

0:37:49 > 0:37:54military took power or other took control of things, they ensured --

0:37:54 > 0:38:01they assured Zimbabweans there was a new dispensation. The new

0:38:01 > 0:38:06dispensation phrase came way too many times and Zimbabweans were

0:38:06 > 0:38:11assured of a new beginning. The vice president is now a presidential

0:38:11 > 0:38:20nominee. And in his statements he was giving a new vision. And saying

0:38:20 > 0:38:26it is not all about Zanu PF.It is going to be about this country. He

0:38:26 > 0:38:29presided over economic grown alongside Robert Mugabe.90%

0:38:29 > 0:38:37unemployment. It does not work like that. They have no power at all? He

0:38:37 > 0:38:47had limitations. In Zanu PF we had only one person who held the power.

0:38:47 > 0:38:52Everyone else was delivering things as a proxy of the centre of power.

0:38:52 > 0:38:56And the vice president was a proxy that centre of power.Are you

0:38:56 > 0:38:59prepared to say right now if elections were held in a month or

0:38:59 > 0:39:05three months' time, and the opposition party or one opposition

0:39:05 > 0:39:11party won, that Zanu PF would cede control of power?It has two because

0:39:11 > 0:39:18one thing we're going to do is abide by the Constitution and in one of

0:39:18 > 0:39:25the offences Mugabe was accused of was not respecting the Constitution

0:39:25 > 0:39:32and that was an impeachable issue. So I do not think we can be so

0:39:32 > 0:39:39hypocritical ass to do the same thing.Thank you very much. Let's go

0:39:39 > 0:39:44to these live pictures coming in from Harare. These celebrations I

0:39:44 > 0:39:49think may go on long into the night. We still do not know the whereabouts

0:39:49 > 0:39:55of Robert Mugabe.We do not know where he is, whether is going to

0:39:55 > 0:39:59stay the country where Grace Mugabe is. One of the most remarkable

0:39:59 > 0:40:04things about watching these pictures is seeing those soldiers earlier, we

0:40:04 > 0:40:10saw them on the tanks being embraced by civilians on the streets. But for

0:40:10 > 0:40:13so long the military has been seen as a weapon of Robert Mugabe for

0:40:13 > 0:40:18keeping control of the country and seething now is the liberators, you

0:40:18 > 0:40:24just hope the hopes of all those people celebrating tonight are well

0:40:24 > 0:40:29founded and there is now economic and political reform. -- seeing them

0:40:29 > 0:40:36now as the liberators.What a quarter of Zimbabweans had left the

0:40:36 > 0:40:42country were told during the time of Mugabe. Some of the other news.

0:40:42 > 0:40:45Famous US talk show host Charlie Rose has been sacked by CBS

0:40:45 > 0:40:46following allegations of sexual harassment.

0:40:46 > 0:40:48Eight women accused Mr Rose of inappropriate behaviour

0:40:48 > 0:40:52in a report published by The Washington Post.

0:40:52 > 0:40:54In an internal memo the president of CBS news said Mr

0:40:54 > 0:40:56Rose's employment was terminated effective immediately

0:40:56 > 0:40:59and the revelations showed intolerable behaviour.

0:40:59 > 0:41:02This marks just the latest case of sexual harassment claims

0:41:02 > 0:41:10following the Harvey Weinstein case.

0:41:10 > 0:41:12In a statement posted to Twitter, Charlie Rose said...

0:41:12 > 0:41:14I deeply apologise for my inappropriate behavior.

0:41:14 > 0:41:15I am greatly embarrassed.

0:41:15 > 0:41:17I have behaved insensitively at times, and I accept

0:41:17 > 0:41:20responsibility for that, though I do not believe all of those

0:41:20 > 0:41:21allegations are accurate.

0:41:21 > 0:41:24I always felt that I was pursuing shared feelings, even though I now

0:41:24 > 0:41:32realize I was mistaken.

0:41:32 > 0:41:37I think it is that last bit that has people here surprised because of

0:41:37 > 0:41:43course we have had a string of men in powerful positions forced now to

0:41:43 > 0:41:47issue similar apologies and that is quite a distinction between some of

0:41:47 > 0:41:50the apologies. The ones that are wrote apologies and the ones that

0:41:50 > 0:41:55seem to have a bit of a but at the end of them and I think that was a

0:41:55 > 0:42:01bit of a but.This shared feelings...One of the women said

0:42:01 > 0:42:05that she was in tears at the time that she was being harassed so I

0:42:05 > 0:42:09think pretty clear that in that incident peelings were not shared.

0:42:09 > 0:42:15He employed his staff and we have talked about this in the House of

0:42:15 > 0:42:18Commons, there was no in between Charlie Rose and the people but he

0:42:18 > 0:42:25employed. Interesting that CBS who fired this afternoon in a

0:42:25 > 0:42:30termination notice that what may once have been accepted should not

0:42:30 > 0:42:33ever have been acceptable. And that brings us to the point that maybe

0:42:33 > 0:42:39this is the tipping point in the UK and the US that this kind of

0:42:39 > 0:42:44behaviour can no longer be tolerated.Many people in this

0:42:44 > 0:42:47position, the men who have been exposed like this, they seem to be

0:42:47 > 0:42:51older and you wonder if it is just a generational thing than that younger

0:42:51 > 0:42:55men do not do this is much was up but also perhaps I think more

0:42:55 > 0:42:58sceptically it is because that these men have power and as their career

0:42:58 > 0:43:03has progressed they get more power and this is not about sex, but abuse

0:43:03 > 0:43:07of power towards people who are vulnerable and on your command and

0:43:07 > 0:43:12that was the case with Charlie Rose. So the man in his 30s darting out

0:43:12 > 0:43:15does not have that kind of power. So let's see if this is a generational

0:43:15 > 0:43:21thing or just that men tend to become the men who are going to

0:43:21 > 0:43:28abuse become abusers as they get older and more powerful.Well the

0:43:28 > 0:43:31public mood I think is shifted in the United States and yet we heard

0:43:31 > 0:43:36from the Trump administration and from Kellyanne Conway that she wants

0:43:36 > 0:43:41people to vote for Roy Warr, a man facing allegations quite frankly of

0:43:41 > 0:43:46paedophilia. She is saying go and vote for him because we need the

0:43:46 > 0:43:50votes and elsewhere people are apologising, resigning, being

0:43:50 > 0:43:58suspended.And actually won the first allegations came out about War

0:43:58 > 0:44:00Memorial Kellyanne Conway was interviewed and said that no Senate

0:44:00 > 0:44:04seat was worth the safety of a child. So quite dramatic the shift

0:44:04 > 0:44:08that she's made basically saying we need that vote on tax reform and

0:44:08 > 0:44:12we're prepared to put up with what one or has done. So a pretty

0:44:12 > 0:44:17stunning reversal of her position. Still to come.

0:44:18 > 0:44:19Time to talk turkey.

0:44:19 > 0:44:21President Trump spares two birds from the Thanksgiving table -

0:44:21 > 0:44:28in a tradition that goes back decades.

0:44:28 > 0:44:30An investigation into alleged data manipulation at a forensics

0:44:30 > 0:44:32laboratory in Manchester has uncovered more than ten

0:44:32 > 0:44:36thousand criminal cases may have been affected.

0:44:36 > 0:44:38The laboratory is used by police forces across the country.

0:44:38 > 0:44:44Our Home Affairs correspondent Daniel Sandford reports.

0:44:44 > 0:44:47A glossy promotional video for Randox Testing Services, used by

0:44:47 > 0:44:53dozens of police forces to check suspects for drug use.

0:44:53 > 0:44:56But it's now clear that for more than three years, those tests have

0:44:56 > 0:44:58been unreliable.

0:44:58 > 0:45:01My advice from the forensic science regulator was that

0:45:01 > 0:45:06up to 10,000 cases spanning back to late 2013 could no longer be fully

0:45:06 > 0:45:11relied upon in the criminal justice system.

0:45:11 > 0:45:1310,000 cases.

0:45:13 > 0:45:15Defence lawyer Nick Freeman was one of the first to

0:45:15 > 0:45:19spot the problem when one of his clients,

0:45:19 > 0:45:22who had admitted taking a little bit of cannabis, tested

0:45:22 > 0:45:26positive for drugs he knew he hadn't taken.

0:45:26 > 0:45:31When we got the report from Randox, it suggested a much larger

0:45:31 > 0:45:34amount than had been anticipated, - but it also suggested he consumed

0:45:34 > 0:45:37cocaine and another substance, and he hadn't consumed any of those

0:45:37 > 0:45:39substances, as far as he was concerned.

0:45:39 > 0:45:43The actual number of miscarriages of justice is unclear.

0:45:43 > 0:45:46The Crown Prosecution Service has dropped 50 prosecutions for

0:45:46 > 0:45:50drug driving that haven't come to court yet,

0:45:50 > 0:45:53and two cases of death by careless driving involving drugs

0:45:53 > 0:45:56have been referred back here to the Court of Appeal.

0:45:56 > 0:45:59Two employees from Randox's Manchester

0:45:59 > 0:46:01laboratory are suspected of not retesting samples that had failed

0:46:02 > 0:46:04quality checks.

0:46:04 > 0:46:06They've been arrested but not charged.

0:46:06 > 0:46:08The company says it deeply regrets the

0:46:08 > 0:46:12distress caused and is paying for thousands of retests.

0:46:12 > 0:46:18But the regulator believes it is an isolated problem.

0:46:18 > 0:46:21There are also concerns about work done by the same two employees on

0:46:21 > 0:46:23family cases and workplace testing at Trimega Laboratories before

0:46:23 > 0:46:25it was taken over by Randox.

0:46:25 > 0:46:34Daniel Sanford, BBC News, at the Court of Appeal.

0:46:34 > 0:46:44You're watching Beyond One Hundred Days.

0:46:44 > 0:46:47The resignation of Robert Mugabe is bringing some hope that the economy

0:46:47 > 0:46:58of the country may turn around.

0:46:58 > 0:47:03Dr Theo Acheampong is a senior analyst at IHS Markit.

0:47:03 > 0:47:08People say there is no money, no cash, what actually goes on, how do

0:47:08 > 0:47:13people carry out their transactions? What the government has introduced a

0:47:13 > 0:47:19two tier system where you have a voucher system will you just going

0:47:19 > 0:47:25with the card and can use that to make transactions. These are backed

0:47:25 > 0:47:31by government IOUs and in addition to that when you queue up to get

0:47:31 > 0:47:34money for the cash machine there is a limit on the transaction that you

0:47:34 > 0:47:39can do. So currently a limit of just 100 US dollars, it used to be about

0:47:39 > 0:47:47500. But because of the severe liquidity crisis the government had

0:47:47 > 0:47:52to intervene and then the central bank recently even had to pinch --

0:47:52 > 0:47:59to print IOUs to say take this piece of paper and the government will

0:47:59 > 0:48:03honour the payment obligation of that.I spoke to one friend who runs

0:48:03 > 0:48:09a business in Zimbabwe and he needed to buy boxes, and ordinary thing

0:48:09 > 0:48:12that all factories used and he could not pay for them because the outside

0:48:12 > 0:48:18supplier from another country would not trust that he would get paid.

0:48:18 > 0:48:23That is very true and to the extent that there are structural issues

0:48:23 > 0:48:27facing the economy. As we speak now the Zimbabwean economy has less than

0:48:27 > 0:48:33one month of import cover for International reserves. Basically

0:48:33 > 0:48:39meaning international benchmark is looking at three, four months of

0:48:39 > 0:48:44import cover because of the severe liquidity crisis that has faced the

0:48:44 > 0:48:48economy. This has got to the point that virtually there is no money to

0:48:48 > 0:48:53support the payment coming in. And so you have people who ordinarily

0:48:53 > 0:48:57would have transacted business with other people or other international

0:48:57 > 0:49:02partners stepping back a bit because they're just not too sure when they

0:49:02 > 0:49:08would get paid and not too sure even if they would get paid at all.A

0:49:08 > 0:49:19chronic situation. Thank you very much.

0:49:19 > 0:49:21For more on Mugabe and what happens next in Zimbabwe lets talk

0:49:21 > 0:49:24to Sara Dorman who's latest book is 'Understanding Zimbabwe - from

0:49:24 > 0:49:28liberation to authoritarianism'.

0:49:28 > 0:49:32The country has been brutalised for so long politically and

0:49:32 > 0:49:37economically, how difficult will it be to get back on its feet?It will

0:49:37 > 0:49:42be a challenging situation for Zimbabwe. A huge amount of goodwill

0:49:42 > 0:49:46exists and I think the people for all their very excited and hopeful,

0:49:46 > 0:49:52they understand that this is about more than just removing one man. I

0:49:52 > 0:49:56think people understand many of the challenges both political and

0:49:56 > 0:50:04economic ahead of them. But yes, it is not going to be easy. That said

0:50:04 > 0:50:08Zimbabwe have been resilient, it has very good underlying infrastructure

0:50:08 > 0:50:14and excellent trained people so I think that there is potential there

0:50:14 > 0:50:19for the rebirth that people are talking about.For millions of

0:50:19 > 0:50:23course Robert Mugabe is the only leader that they had ever known. Who

0:50:23 > 0:50:28will regret his leaving us right I certainly have heard people saying

0:50:28 > 0:50:35for example, I had a discussion with some friends saying my 14-year-old

0:50:35 > 0:50:40daughter is totally opposed to Mugabe but my mother will not hear

0:50:40 > 0:50:46anything against him.So I think there is a cohort of people who

0:50:46 > 0:50:51respect him as an individual, despite much of what has happened. I

0:50:51 > 0:50:56think there is a broader issue of the legacy of the liberation war

0:50:56 > 0:51:04which is still held very dearly by many Zimbabweans and that is why

0:51:04 > 0:51:08this process of events that we have seen in the past week has been

0:51:08 > 0:51:12called operation restore legacy. They want to restore the legacy of

0:51:12 > 0:51:17the party, of the movement that brought Zimbabwe to independence.

0:51:17 > 0:51:21The suggestion is that it has gone off track and they want to bring it

0:51:21 > 0:51:27back. So the people hoping to take power from within Zanu PF and

0:51:27 > 0:51:31especially, they see themselves as part of the legacy but are trying to

0:51:31 > 0:51:35identify with the good parts of the legacy and not necessarily with the

0:51:35 > 0:51:40more negative parts of what has happened. The human rights abuses,

0:51:40 > 0:51:46the economic disasters, the decline of so much of Zimbabwe?Political

0:51:46 > 0:51:52and economic systems. Thank you very much.

0:51:52 > 0:51:55It's nearly Thanksgiving here in the US and that means just

0:51:55 > 0:51:57one thing in Washington, time for the President to spare

0:51:57 > 0:52:00the life of a turkey.

0:52:00 > 0:52:01A tradition as old as...

0:52:01 > 0:52:04well, pretty old.

0:52:04 > 0:52:10This particular bird was called Drumstick - oddly.

0:52:10 > 0:52:13It will spend the rest of its days not as part of a thanksgiving feast

0:52:13 > 0:52:20but in retirement at a university in Virginia.

0:52:20 > 0:52:26As many of you know I have been very active in overturning a number of

0:52:26 > 0:52:31executive actions by my predecessor. However I have been informed by the

0:52:31 > 0:52:39White House counsel 's office that pardons cannot under any

0:52:39 > 0:52:46circumstances be revoked. So we're not going to revoke them.

0:52:46 > 0:52:48Well as it's such a long-standing tradition, and as President Trump

0:52:48 > 0:52:51mentioned his predecessor - we thought we'd look back at some of

0:52:51 > 0:52:54President Obama's turkey pardons.

0:52:54 > 0:53:01There are certain days that remind me of why I ran for this office and

0:53:01 > 0:53:06then there are moments like this where I Padoin Turkey and send it

0:53:06 > 0:53:11Disneyland! If for some reason, cannot fulfil his duties as the

0:53:11 > 0:53:16official White House turkey, gobbler will be waiting in the wings. Today

0:53:16 > 0:53:22I'm taking an action fully within my legal authority, the same kind of

0:53:22 > 0:53:28action taken by Democrat and Republican presidents before me, to

0:53:28 > 0:53:35spare the lives of two turkeys, mac and cheese. From a terrible and

0:53:35 > 0:53:43delicious fate. I'm going to publicly thank Maria and Sasha who

0:53:43 > 0:53:57once again are standing here with me during the turkey pardoning.Now

0:53:57 > 0:54:01where did think the turkey goes before its big day at the White

0:54:01 > 0:54:08House? No idea. Have a look at these pictures, these turkeys went last

0:54:08 > 0:54:10night to the Woolard Intercontinental on Pennsylvania

0:54:10 > 0:54:16Avenue. I kid you not. They went to a twin room, these are the pictures.

0:54:16 > 0:54:27I look today because I'm curious and a twin room there is anything up to

0:54:27 > 0:54:34$1000 per night. There they are going with the baggage handlers all

0:54:34 > 0:54:38the way down the corridor. And then they go into the room and you will

0:54:38 > 0:54:46see them, this is their bedroom. And they left them in this room, paint

0:54:46 > 0:54:49for by the National Turkey Federation!If you come to

0:54:49 > 0:55:00Washington let me tell you you will not be put up their! Just one other

0:55:00 > 0:55:03fact, not just one turkey but actually an alternate turkey so you

0:55:03 > 0:55:12have had turkeys named in areas, stars and stripes, cobbler and

0:55:12 > 0:55:18gobbler, mac and cheese. You get the drift. But I do not know if there

0:55:18 > 0:55:27has been a turkey called Katty and the back-up turkey called Christian!

0:55:27 > 0:55:36And if so which one would be saved! That is the Twitter question! Which

0:55:36 > 0:55:44one would you save! I was looking at how many pounds, 47 in five months,

0:55:44 > 0:55:55that turkey. My last turkey statistic of the day!That is it on

0:55:55 > 0:56:02turkey!We will see you same time tomorrow.