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0:00:15 > 0:00:23You're watching Beyond One Hundred Days.

0:00:23 > 0:00:26The Ritz Carlton in Riyadh, now a five star holding

0:00:26 > 0:00:27centre for Princes and rich Saudis.

0:00:27 > 0:00:30They are part of a corruption investigation that is now

0:00:30 > 0:00:33into its third week.

0:00:33 > 0:00:43It could endanger the stability and reforms his Kingdom so badly needs.

0:00:43 > 0:00:45The Argentinian navy say satellites detected an explosion

0:00:45 > 0:00:51on the day the sub went missing.

0:00:51 > 0:00:53Brussels says Brexit Britain will not be hosting

0:00:53 > 0:00:56the European Capital of Culture in 2023 despite the scheme

0:00:56 > 0:00:59being open to countries that aren't in the EU.

0:00:59 > 0:01:03Just how influential is Russia's relationship with Donald Trump?

0:01:03 > 0:01:06We'll be talking to the author of the new book, Collusion.

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0:01:08 > 0:01:18Beyond-One-Hundred-Days.

0:01:24 > 0:01:26For almost three weeks now, some of the most privileged members

0:01:26 > 0:01:29of Saudi society have been held in the Ritz Cartlon Hotel in Riyadh

0:01:29 > 0:01:32and interrogated on the orders of the Crown Prince.

0:01:32 > 0:01:33Muhammed Bin Salman has presented the arrests

0:01:33 > 0:01:36as a crackdown against corruption, though it would also seem

0:01:36 > 0:01:38to consolidate his position as the most powerful man

0:01:38 > 0:01:39in the Kingdom.

0:01:39 > 0:01:47Among those held is the country's richest investor, billionaire

0:01:47 > 0:01:49Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, and his most potent remaining rival

0:01:49 > 0:01:51to the Crown Prince's power, Prince Mutaib bin Abdullah,

0:01:51 > 0:01:53son of the late King.

0:01:53 > 0:01:56Very few have been allowed into the hotel, turned prison,

0:01:56 > 0:02:01but our international correspondent, Lyse Doucet, was given rare access.

0:02:01 > 0:02:04We drive in under police escort, just past midnight.

0:02:04 > 0:02:06No one enters here now without official permission,

0:02:06 > 0:02:08the world's most talked about hotel.

0:02:08 > 0:02:15Riyadh's most palatial, most prestigious, now a gilded prison.

0:02:15 > 0:02:18I'm taken in by Saudi officials and told, don't film faces and don't

0:02:18 > 0:02:22record conversations.

0:02:22 > 0:02:24Here in the early hours of the morning, there's still people

0:02:24 > 0:02:27in the lobby drinking coffee, as you would find in any of

0:02:27 > 0:02:29the 5-star hotels here in the capital.

0:02:29 > 0:02:32Most of the people who have now been forced to stay

0:02:32 > 0:02:35here are keeping to themselves.

0:02:35 > 0:02:38Trying to limit any further damage to their reputation.

0:02:38 > 0:02:40Their mobile phones have been taken away from them,

0:02:40 > 0:02:44but there is a hotline that is available to them.

0:02:44 > 0:02:49They can call their lawyers, family members, even leading

0:02:49 > 0:02:51members of the companies they're still trying

0:02:51 > 0:02:53to keep running.

0:02:53 > 0:02:55The world's most pampered prisoners have every comfort except freedom.

0:02:55 > 0:02:59The state is picking up this bill.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02As far as detention centres go, this one is beyond compare.

0:03:02 > 0:03:05Luxury swimming pool, restaurants, a gym.

0:03:05 > 0:03:09Everything is glittering.

0:03:09 > 0:03:11There's even a bowling alley, but most prisoners just

0:03:11 > 0:03:20stay in their rooms.

0:03:20 > 0:03:23I'm taken to meet one suspect, he doesn't give me his name.

0:03:23 > 0:03:25He says he spends his time with his lawyer,

0:03:25 > 0:03:26focusing on his case.

0:03:26 > 0:03:28I'm told not to ask about it.

0:03:28 > 0:03:31But I get a briefing.

0:03:31 > 0:03:34Senior officials conducting this crackdown say it's not a formal

0:03:34 > 0:03:35investigation just yet.

0:03:35 > 0:03:39They called it a friendly process, but it's clearly fraught.

0:03:39 > 0:03:41We're being told that when people were brought here,

0:03:41 > 0:03:44around midnight on November 4th, they were understandably angry.

0:03:44 > 0:03:47Some of them thought this would just be a show and it wouldn't last.

0:03:47 > 0:03:49And then when they realised they were here to stay,

0:03:49 > 0:03:53they were furious.

0:03:53 > 0:04:01Almost everyone here, 95% I was told, are willing to make

0:04:01 > 0:04:04a deal, to give back what are said to be substantial sums of money

0:04:04 > 0:04:07in order to get out here.

0:04:07 > 0:04:09The Crown Prince, 32 years old, is taking on fellow princes,

0:04:09 > 0:04:15senior ministers, some of the biggest billionaires,

0:04:15 > 0:04:16tackling corruption, concentrating power.

0:04:16 > 0:04:19Weeks on, many are still asking questions about why this purge

0:04:19 > 0:04:22happened here and now.

0:04:22 > 0:04:24Outside this gilded prison, it certainly has gone down well.

0:04:24 > 0:04:28Many Saudis welcome an end to the rampant

0:04:28 > 0:04:29corruption in the Kingdom.

0:04:29 > 0:04:35There are risks, too.

0:04:35 > 0:04:37The ambitious Crown Prince risks creating enemies and uncertainty,

0:04:37 > 0:04:39which could endanger the very stability and reforms

0:04:39 > 0:04:42he knows his kingdom so badly needs.

0:04:42 > 0:04:44The Crown Prince hopes everyone will be checking out

0:04:44 > 0:04:49by the end of this year.

0:04:49 > 0:04:52The longer this ordeal drags on, the more questions will be asked,

0:04:52 > 0:04:55here and abroad, about what's going on inside.

0:04:55 > 0:05:01Lyse Doucet, BBC News, at the Ritz-Carlton, Riyadh.

0:05:01 > 0:05:08It's a big gamble. In terms of how he's perceived at home and by the

0:05:08 > 0:05:18Kingdom's key eyes?I spoke to many Saudis who welcomed a crackdown on

0:05:18 > 0:05:23corruption. One man who is a wealthy real estate developer said it's like

0:05:23 > 0:05:27as if you lost your watch and you found it. You are happy because the

0:05:27 > 0:05:30watch has been given back to you. He said, this money belongs be to us.

0:05:30 > 0:05:34Several people said to me that the bribery they had seen before in

0:05:34 > 0:05:39judicial and financial institutions has stopped. That everyone is scared

0:05:39 > 0:05:46to do anything unless they end up in the hotel. There are questions to be

0:05:46 > 0:05:51asked - why are are some people in the purge and not others. What is in

0:05:51 > 0:05:55the files? They have gathered the files, evidence, for the last two

0:05:55 > 0:06:01years. Is it about corruption or about power? The Crown Prince

0:06:01 > 0:06:06supporters you ask if it's a power grab. They say he already has the

0:06:06 > 0:06:10power. He doesn't need

0:06:10 > 0:06:13power. He doesn't need to consolidate. He wouldn't have done

0:06:13 > 0:06:20it if he didn't feel he had the power.There are starting to emerge

0:06:20 > 0:06:25reports of torture. Stories of people being hung upside down. What

0:06:25 > 0:06:29do you make of the reports? Impossible to confirm. When we went

0:06:29 > 0:06:32into the hotel there were reports of people falling ill. I asked about

0:06:32 > 0:06:41that. There was a person from the Human Rights Society there, there

0:06:41 > 0:06:44were no complaints. Whether he is telling the full story or not it's

0:06:44 > 0:06:48hard to say. They said that people had diabetes. There were heart

0:06:48 > 0:06:53conditions. People are old. There is obviously an enormous amount of

0:06:53 > 0:06:57stress. There were medical teams on stand by. Heart doctors had been

0:06:57 > 0:07:01moved. In they are clearly suffering. Whether or not the

0:07:01 > 0:07:06so-called interrogations have to go to the extent of what the Mail said,

0:07:06 > 0:07:10that people are being hung upside down, torture is what they described

0:07:10 > 0:07:13it. There certainly is pressure. It's the pressure of the documents.

0:07:13 > 0:07:18I was told the files are like this. They have gone through all the bank

0:07:18 > 0:07:22statements, all the financial records. In fact, seven people have

0:07:22 > 0:07:28walked free because they looked at the files and said, that hes a not

0:07:28 > 0:07:33my money. That went to someone else. They challenged the evidence. They

0:07:33 > 0:07:36are no longer held in the prison. They have an ability with their

0:07:36 > 0:07:41lawyers to work through the files. Most of them it seems are being

0:07:41 > 0:07:44told, they are saying now, they realise there is no way out of the

0:07:44 > 0:07:48hotel until they prove their innocence, go to trial. 4% will go

0:07:48 > 0:07:53to trial, apparently. Or pay up the money. When it comes to people being

0:07:53 > 0:07:55detained longer than they would like, one of them we believe,

0:07:55 > 0:08:05alleged. Is the Prime Minister of Lebanon. Talk to me about this.

0:08:05 > 0:08:10Lebanon said he was being held against his wishes. Emmanuel Macron

0:08:10 > 0:08:16flies in unannounced on Thursday. He goes to Paris, back to Lebanon,

0:08:16 > 0:08:21suddenly - I'm not retiring. Has Macron gone to the Crown Prince and

0:08:21 > 0:08:25said you have overreached. We are the former colonial power you need

0:08:25 > 0:08:30to think again.I was there in November when it happened. When he

0:08:30 > 0:08:35announced he was stepping down. I was with government ministers,

0:08:35 > 0:08:38senior officials, they said it didn't sound like his language. He

0:08:38 > 0:08:42play may have considered he wasn'tens will his position wasn't

0:08:42 > 0:08:47working in the unity government or could take on Hezbollah. The Saudis,

0:08:47 > 0:08:51for months in advance, were worried that he could not control Hezbollah

0:08:51 > 0:08:54and this unity government. The idea was, you take him out of the

0:08:54 > 0:08:57government, therefore you can say it's been captured by the Lebanese

0:08:57 > 0:09:03state has been captured by Hezbollah. It justifies pressure on

0:09:03 > 0:09:05Lebanon, diplomatic, trade, financial pressures. It was talked

0:09:05 > 0:09:11at the time of a Qatar-style blockade the pressures of Saudi and

0:09:11 > 0:09:15emirates have put on the Gulf state of Qatar. They are talking

0:09:15 > 0:09:19differently. Whether it was through President Macron or the Lebanese who

0:09:19 > 0:09:23said - if you weaken Lebanon, Lebanon be will collapse. This is

0:09:23 > 0:09:29not the way to go about taking on the most powerful political and

0:09:29 > 0:09:35military player in Lebanon. He is more popular than ever. Saudi

0:09:35 > 0:09:39officials were saying, he has gone back, more popular, and will be in a

0:09:39 > 0:09:43better position to take on Hezbollah. The second chapter and

0:09:43 > 0:09:47let's see how it unfold.Always delicate in Lek none. Extraordinary

0:09:47 > 0:09:50access to the hotel. Lovely to talk to you. Thank you for coming in.

0:09:50 > 0:09:57Thank you.

0:09:57 > 0:09:59The navy in Argentina has confirmed that a sound consistent

0:09:59 > 0:10:02with an explosion was detected in an area where a submarine went

0:10:02 > 0:10:03missing eight days ago.

0:10:03 > 0:10:04The international rescue operation is ongoing

0:10:04 > 0:10:07in the South Atlantic close to where the submarine disappeared.

0:10:07 > 0:10:09There are 44 crew on board.

0:10:09 > 0:10:15This woman's husband is on the San Juan.

0:10:15 > 0:10:21A clue to what might have happened. Rescuers say an unusual sound, heard

0:10:21 > 0:10:25when the submarine sent its last signal, suggests there may have been

0:10:25 > 0:10:35a catastrophic problem on board. TRANSLATION:We received information

0:10:35 > 0:10:41that it was an abnormal, singular, short, violent and nonnuclear event

0:10:41 > 0:10:46consistent with an explosion.The Argentine navy had said earlier the

0:10:46 > 0:10:50mission to find the sub had reached a critical phase. There was concern

0:10:50 > 0:10:55the crew could be using up the last of its oxygen supply. So far,

0:10:55 > 0:11:01there's been no sign of the missing vessel. The Reuter's news agency

0:11:01 > 0:11:06says a US Navy plane detected an object near the area where the sub

0:11:06 > 0:11:12sent that signal, but it couldn't be identified. For a week now,

0:11:12 > 0:11:17relatives of the 44 crew members have been coming to the naval base

0:11:17 > 0:11:22to pray for the safe return of their loved ones, but with today's news,

0:11:22 > 0:11:26many have become angry, accusing the Navy of lying and raising false

0:11:26 > 0:11:31hopes. TRANSLATION:I feel cheated. They

0:11:31 > 0:11:34say it's 3,000 meters below sea. So, no, they don't tell you anything.

0:11:34 > 0:11:39That's why I say they are swines. For me, they are wicked and have

0:11:39 > 0:11:45manipulated us. They knew about it and they are wicked.With each day

0:11:45 > 0:11:51that passes now, rescuing anyone alive seems more and more unlikely.

0:11:51 > 0:11:57Riley Karlsson, BBC News. Desperate for the families. The last time a

0:11:57 > 0:12:11submarine was rescued or people on board were rescued on a sunken

0:12:11 > 0:12:15vessel was years ago.

0:12:15 > 0:12:17In other news:

0:12:17 > 0:12:19Zimbabwe's incoming President, Emmerson Mnangagwa, is urging

0:12:19 > 0:12:22citizens to remain patient and peaceful and not to take part

0:12:22 > 0:12:23in any "vengeful retribution" against Robert Mugabe.

0:12:23 > 0:12:25Robert Mugabe's replacement will be officially sworn

0:12:25 > 0:12:26into office on Friday.

0:12:26 > 0:12:28Bangladesh has signed a deal with Myanmar to return hundreds

0:12:28 > 0:12:31of thousands of Rohingya Muslims who fled a violent army crackdown.

0:12:31 > 0:12:33They can start returning home within two months,

0:12:33 > 0:12:35but Amnesty International says the plans are premature

0:12:35 > 0:12:39when hundreds of Rohingya are still fleeing persecution every day.

0:12:39 > 0:12:41US Republican Joe Barton has apologized for an explicit nude

0:12:41 > 0:12:45photo of him which has been circulated widely on social media,

0:12:45 > 0:12:47but he isn't resigning.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49The 68-year-old Texan politican says...

0:13:04 > 0:13:06Collusion, the new book written by the Guardian

0:13:06 > 0:13:13journalist Luke Harding, has the feel of a John

0:13:13 > 0:13:14Le Carre spy novel.

0:13:14 > 0:13:17Except in this case, the characters in the book are all real,

0:13:17 > 0:13:19members past and present of the Trump campaign.

0:13:19 > 0:13:21The stories of Kremlin espionage, money laundering, computer hacking

0:13:21 > 0:13:24are all currently being investigated by special council Robert Mueller,

0:13:24 > 0:13:26and in some cases charges have already been made.

0:13:26 > 0:13:29Earlier this week, Katty and I caught up with Luke Harding

0:13:29 > 0:13:32in Berlin, I started by asking him about one of his prime sources,

0:13:32 > 0:13:34the former MI6 agent Christopher Steele, who compiled

0:13:34 > 0:13:39the intelligence dossier that sparked the Russian invesigation.

0:13:39 > 0:13:46Luke Harding, your book starts with a meeting you had in December

0:13:46 > 0:13:482016 with the former MI6 agent Christopher Steele, whose dossier

0:13:48 > 0:13:58of course began this Russia investigation.

0:13:59 > 0:14:01Why do you think the intelligence agencies put such

0:14:01 > 0:14:06trust in him at the beginning?

0:14:06 > 0:14:08Well, I mean, Christopher Steele is a professional guy.

0:14:08 > 0:14:10He spent 22 years working for British intelligence.

0:14:10 > 0:14:13He served in Moscow undercover at the British Embassy there,

0:14:13 > 0:14:14then he went into private business.

0:14:14 > 0:14:16I think he has a pretty good track record.

0:14:16 > 0:14:18Intelligence sources I've spoken to describe him

0:14:18 > 0:14:23as solid, as reliable.

0:14:23 > 0:14:26What you have to understand is that the sources he used for this

0:14:26 > 0:14:28dossier over Trump and Russia were the same sources that had

0:14:28 > 0:14:30proven themselves in other areas.

0:14:30 > 0:14:33In other words, they were people who had a kind of track record

0:14:33 > 0:14:35which was credible and which kind of help up.

0:14:35 > 0:14:37Luke, there are tonnes of dodgy characters,

0:14:37 > 0:14:39emails, money involved, beauty pagents, much of which has

0:14:39 > 0:14:49been reported before.

0:14:50 > 0:14:53If you had to point to the single most suspect thing that you

0:14:53 > 0:14:56uncovered that would put the Trump campaign under the spotlight,

0:14:56 > 0:14:57what would it be?

0:14:57 > 0:14:59I mean, the thing is about this story is that it

0:14:59 > 0:15:01goes back a long way.

0:15:01 > 0:15:02The single most important episode is summer 1987,

0:15:02 > 0:15:05when Donald Trump, for the first time, goes to Moscow

0:15:05 > 0:15:07at the invitation of the Soviet government.

0:15:07 > 0:15:12Ostensibly to discuss building a hotel in Moscow,

0:15:12 > 0:15:16but what we know is that the trip was basically arranged by the Soviet

0:15:16 > 0:15:18ambassador and he was brought over by a travel agency,

0:15:18 > 0:15:28a state travel agency.

0:15:32 > 0:15:35Now, defectors I've spoken to said this was the KJB.

0:15:35 > 0:15:38I can say without exaggeration that the KJB more or less brought

0:15:38 > 0:15:41Donald Trump to Moscow as what you wide was a kind

0:15:41 > 0:15:44of classic cultivation exercise.

0:15:44 > 0:15:47Now I'm not saying that Donald Trump was somehow a KJB

0:15:47 > 0:15:50spy back in the 1980s, but I think what we can say

0:15:50 > 0:15:52for certainty is that there were repeated attempts,

0:15:52 > 0:15:54both in the Soviet period, and in the Russian period,

0:15:54 > 0:15:57to cultivate Donald Trump to get close to him and his associates

0:15:57 > 0:16:00and to try and exploit him for ways which would help Moscow

0:16:00 > 0:16:01and Moscow's purposes.

0:16:01 > 0:16:03You also point us Luke towards the oligarchs,

0:16:03 > 0:16:08these very power men in Russia, billionaires.

0:16:08 > 0:16:10There's probably around 100 of them or so.

0:16:10 > 0:16:12What your' really saying is there is no separation

0:16:12 > 0:16:15between them and the Kremlin because they owe their allegiance

0:16:15 > 0:16:16to Vladimir Putin?

0:16:16 > 0:16:18Being a billionaire brings privileges, but it also brings

0:16:18 > 0:16:19certain obligations.

0:16:19 > 0:16:21Threading through this story we see oligarchs doing things perhaps

0:16:21 > 0:16:24at the behest of the Kremlin and the Russian state.

0:16:24 > 0:16:34We see one oligarch buy Donald Trump's mansion in Florida.

0:16:34 > 0:16:37Donald Trump bought it $40 million in 2004 and this

0:16:37 > 0:16:38oligarch buys it a few

0:16:38 > 0:16:41years later for $95 million, which is kind of very curious.

0:16:41 > 0:16:49We also see oligarchs kind of interacting with people

0:16:49 > 0:16:51in the Trump campaign team, especially Paul Manford.

0:16:51 > 0:16:54Luke an alternative theory to all of this was the Trump

0:16:54 > 0:16:56campaign was the most chaotic campaign I've ever covered in

0:16:56 > 0:16:57the American presidential elections.

0:16:57 > 0:16:58People were freelancing.

0:16:58 > 0:17:03Carter Paige may or may not have been meeting Russian spies in

0:17:03 > 0:17:06Moscows. It's plausible that Donald Trump knew nothing about that from

0:17:06 > 0:17:15the top down. You haven't actually uncovered evidence that they

0:17:15 > 0:17:18promised to offer sanction relief if the Russians gave them dirt on

0:17:18 > 0:17:22Hillary Clinton?There was a longstanding transactional

0:17:22 > 0:17:28relationship going back five or six years between Trump and powerful

0:17:28 > 0:17:31Russian state interests. There was a flow in both directions. There was

0:17:31 > 0:17:35information going from America to Russia about Russian oligarchs

0:17:35 > 0:17:40living in the United States. There was politically helpful material

0:17:40 > 0:17:44flowing back to Trump. We have to look at what happened in the US

0:17:44 > 0:17:52election. What happened was that US intelligence stole tens of thousands

0:17:52 > 0:17:57of Democratic Party emails and dumped them out to help Trump and to

0:17:57 > 0:18:03seriously damage Hillary Clinton. Now, what we now know, thanks to the

0:18:03 > 0:18:06indictments by the special prosecutor looking at all of this,

0:18:06 > 0:18:11the Trump campaign were told this as early as April 2016, well before

0:18:11 > 0:18:17Hillary Clinton had any idea her servers had been hacked. If you look

0:18:17 > 0:18:21at the story there is a degree of co-ordination between the two camps

0:18:21 > 0:18:27to maximise damage to Hillary.It's a fascinating read. Luke Harding,

0:18:27 > 0:18:33thank you very much for being with us.

0:18:43 > 0:18:46This year the European Capital of Culture is the English city of Hull.

0:18:46 > 0:18:48Recognition that brings with it tourism, funding and the arts.

0:18:48 > 0:18:50But Liverpool will be the last.

0:18:50 > 0:18:52The EU Commission has confirmed the UK will no longer be

0:18:52 > 0:18:54considered after Brexit, disappointing these five cities

0:18:54 > 0:18:57that have already bid to hold the title in 2023.

0:18:57 > 0:18:59Now you might think that is not entirely surprising given that

0:18:59 > 0:19:00Britain is leaving the EU.

0:19:00 > 0:19:02But, outside countries have hosted the capital,

0:19:02 > 0:19:06including Iceland and Norway, though they are in the EEA,

0:19:06 > 0:19:07the European Economic Area.

0:19:07 > 0:19:09Earlier I spoke to the Lord Mayor of Belfast, Nuala McAllister,

0:19:09 > 0:19:16who's involved in the Belfast-Derry 2023 bid.

0:19:16 > 0:19:18So it's absolutely bitterly disappointing from hearing this from

0:19:18 > 0:19:23the European Commission over the past 24-hours. It's disappointing

0:19:23 > 0:19:27from our perspective, Belfast in partnership with Derry because

0:19:27 > 0:19:32Northern Ireland has unique circumstances. The European

0:19:32 > 0:19:35Commission itself said this. Doors are being closed on us. With regards

0:19:35 > 0:19:41to what we are being told, very little in fact. We need a little bit

0:19:41 > 0:19:45more political leadership from DCMS over this issue. Instead, we are in

0:19:45 > 0:19:49crisis mode in regards to civil servants. We have not heard from the

0:19:49 > 0:19:55Secretary of State herself. We need a little bit more clarification.It

0:19:55 > 0:19:58may be that the Secretary of State had asewerances from the European

0:19:58 > 0:20:02Union. It seems to have been an unexpected move by the Commission?

0:20:02 > 0:20:08Yeah unexpected obviously we would not have been going ahead. We seeked

0:20:08 > 0:20:12assurances many times, they assured us, yes, we are still elible. Upon

0:20:12 > 0:20:16today when we have been discussing with them what happens next, what

0:20:16 > 0:20:20happens now? There is no answer.The taxpayers in Belfast have paid into

0:20:20 > 0:20:24this?We have actually received quite a lot of confidence and input

0:20:24 > 0:20:28from the public in Belfast and Derry specifically who are actually very

0:20:28 > 0:20:32excited about this. At a time when we really need to strengthen our

0:20:32 > 0:20:36cultural links with Europe, we are now faced with doors being closed on

0:20:36 > 0:20:41us. It's a time when we need to show we can remain part of Europe and we

0:20:41 > 0:20:46can still feel European.Some people watching might say - it's hardly

0:20:46 > 0:20:49surprising given we are leaving the European Union we can't have the

0:20:49 > 0:20:52European Capital of Country. There are other countries outside the

0:20:52 > 0:20:55European Union that have been considered?Exactly there are three

0:20:55 > 0:21:00countries that I can think of off the top my head.Turkey.Iceland and

0:21:00 > 0:21:06Norway. The Brexit negotiations are not finalised. We do feel this has

0:21:06 > 0:21:10been used as leverage from the European Commission.Do you think

0:21:10 > 0:21:15the EU is punishing the UK?What the EU are doing, rightly so, is during

0:21:15 > 0:21:19negotiations they are trying to find leverage. Also what we need to do in

0:21:19 > 0:21:22the UK and also what we think we need to do within Northern Ireland.

0:21:22 > 0:21:27As I said, we are in a unique situation were we share that border

0:21:27 > 0:21:30with the Republic of Ireland, who will remain within the EU.What

0:21:30 > 0:21:34would happen if you dego it? Have you estimated what sort of money

0:21:34 > 0:21:38would come into the city?If we look at Liverpool, who were the last UK

0:21:38 > 0:21:44city who did host the European Capital of Culture, they saw over

0:21:44 > 0:21:49£750 million. We are talking about over the next few years they saw £4

0:21:49 > 0:21:52billion of infrastructure in culture, arts and tourism. That

0:21:52 > 0:21:56would be a huge potential and opportunity for any one of the five

0:21:56 > 0:21:59UK cities who could potentially win this bid had the door not been

0:21:59 > 0:22:09closed.

0:22:10 > 0:22:18Nuala McAllister. They certainly had a good chance as it was 25 years on

0:22:18 > 0:22:22from the Good Friday Agreement 2023.

0:22:22 > 0:22:24There's some good news for coffee drinkers.

0:22:24 > 0:22:26A review published in the British Medical Journal suggest

0:22:26 > 0:22:29drinking three or four cups a day may lower the risk of liver disease,

0:22:29 > 0:22:32some cancers and the likelihood of developing heart problems.

0:22:32 > 0:22:34However, public health experts say there is still uncertainty

0:22:34 > 0:22:36about the impact of drinking more than that.

0:22:36 > 0:22:37Sima Kotecha reports.

0:22:37 > 0:22:38An espresso, a cappuccino or just instant.

0:22:38 > 0:22:42More than 50 million cups of coffee are drunk every day here in the UK

0:22:42 > 0:22:44and today there's another debate about whether it's

0:22:44 > 0:22:45good or bad for you.

0:22:45 > 0:22:48It's after a review has suggested drinking moderate amounts of coffee

0:22:48 > 0:22:52is more likely to benefit health than cause it harm.

0:22:52 > 0:22:55I think I enjoy the smell of it mostly, which makes me sort of feel

0:22:55 > 0:22:57- especially when you're in a country like

0:22:57 > 0:22:58Italy or something,

0:22:58 > 0:23:01waking up in the morning smelling coffee, it just makes me,

0:23:01 > 0:23:02I don't know, I really love it.

0:23:02 > 0:23:04I think it's probably a placebo effect.

0:23:04 > 0:23:07You feel sort of energised by having drunk it.

0:23:07 > 0:23:10It gives me a bit of a kick is the main thing and,

0:23:10 > 0:23:12from different blends, you can slightly taste

0:23:12 > 0:23:13different things.

0:23:13 > 0:23:20Sometimes they're chocolatey, sometimes they're fruity.

0:23:20 > 0:23:22The University of Southampton went through 200 studies looking at how

0:23:22 > 0:23:25coffee affects the body and concluded three or four cups

0:23:25 > 0:23:29of it a day could lead to a lower risk of developing health problems.

0:23:29 > 0:23:34However, it also said too much of it while pregnant can be dangerous.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37In some cases, a small amount of coffee can cause anxiety,

0:23:37 > 0:23:39and there are studies that suggest children, adolescents

0:23:39 > 0:23:41and the elderly are particularly vulnerable to the adverse

0:23:41 > 0:23:46effects of caffeine.

0:23:46 > 0:23:49It gives me kind of...

0:23:49 > 0:23:51It brings my anxiety levels up a bit.

0:23:51 > 0:23:55My gears are always grinding and I think sometimes I can

0:23:55 > 0:23:58have a caffeine overload, so I try to stay away from it

0:23:58 > 0:24:01as much as when I was younger when I worked in construction.

0:24:01 > 0:24:06I was drinking it, you know, nonstop all the time.

0:24:06 > 0:24:09Critics say the finding of this particular review could be skewed

0:24:09 > 0:24:10because those evaluated may have been healthy before

0:24:10 > 0:24:15starting to drink coffee.

0:24:15 > 0:24:19I tend to ignore this kind of advice because from one day to the next it

0:24:19 > 0:24:23tends to differ, so I wouldn't be surprised if in a week or two we got

0:24:23 > 0:24:25some other report saying that coffee is bad for you after all.

0:24:25 > 0:24:27But I guess everything in moderation.

0:24:27 > 0:24:37Researchers are now calling for rigorous clinical trials

0:24:37 > 0:24:39to explore the drink's true effects.

0:24:39 > 0:24:42And a last bit of advice from them - opt for milk

0:24:42 > 0:24:43with your coffee rather than cream.

0:24:43 > 0:24:46Sima Kotecha, BBC News, Birmingham.

0:24:46 > 0:24:51That's good, mine's a latte.

0:24:51 > 0:24:52We've all been there.

0:24:52 > 0:24:54A phone call you'd rather not be on, suddenly there's a bit

0:24:54 > 0:24:56of inteference, you lose the signal.

0:24:56 > 0:24:57Line goes dead.

0:24:57 > 0:24:58Oh dear, what a shame.

0:24:58 > 0:25:00Who knows, maybe you even faked it.

0:25:00 > 0:25:02Well, if you did, then rest assured you're not alone.

0:25:02 > 0:25:05The Delaware Senator Tom Carper reveals that Chief White House

0:25:05 > 0:25:07adviser Gary Cohn did just that while talking recently

0:25:07 > 0:25:08to Donald Trump.

0:25:08 > 0:25:10Apparently, it was so that Cohn and Carper could continue

0:25:10 > 0:25:12a productive conversation they were having about taxes

0:25:12 > 0:25:14without the President getting in the way.

0:25:14 > 0:25:16The White House has denied Carper's version of events.

0:25:16 > 0:25:22The Senator is sticking to it.

0:25:22 > 0:25:25Now Katty is not with us today, it is of course Thanksgiving,

0:25:25 > 0:25:31but if you were with us yesterday you'll know that she had signed up

0:25:31 > 0:25:41for the annual Turkey Trot.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51And, I'm pleased to report, she's made it to the other end

0:25:51 > 0:25:53in good time, with a photo to prove it.

0:25:53 > 0:25:54Apparently, this is the 2km mark.

0:25:54 > 0:25:56There's Katty, second from right, with her lovely family.

0:25:56 > 0:26:00And, no, that is not Rocky Balboa their in the middle, in the hat.

0:26:00 > 0:26:02You might recognise that character, the BBC's very own Jon Sopel.