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0:00:09 > 0:00:12A wealthy area of California is swamped in dangerous mudslides.
0:00:12 > 0:00:17At least 15 people have been killed in the hills around Santa Barbara.
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0:01:00 > 0:01:02Hello and welcome - I'm Katty Kay in Washington
0:01:02 > 0:01:04and Christian Fraser is in London.
0:01:04 > 0:01:07At least 15 people have been killed in southern California by flash
0:01:07 > 0:01:08floods and mudslides.
0:01:08 > 0:01:11Huge boulders rolled down hillsides crushing cars and smashing
0:01:11 > 0:01:13into homes after the first rain for several months in
0:01:13 > 0:01:17Santa Barbara county.
0:01:17 > 0:01:20Around 50 kilometres of the main coastal road have been closed
0:01:20 > 0:01:23and rescuers are trying to reach a group of 300 people thought to be
0:01:23 > 0:01:25trapped in one neighbourhood, east of Santa Barbara,
0:01:25 > 0:01:32James Cook reports.
0:01:32 > 0:01:42On California's Pacific coast, ordeal by the elements continues.
0:01:42 > 0:01:45First, they endured the largest fire in the state's history.
0:01:45 > 0:01:46Next came torrential rain, more intense
0:01:46 > 0:01:48than anyone here could remember.
0:01:48 > 0:01:50Then, within minutes, destruction, caused by an unstoppable wall of mud
0:01:50 > 0:01:54and debris.
0:01:54 > 0:01:56This 14-year-old survived.
0:01:56 > 0:01:59Even she does not know how.
0:01:59 > 0:02:01Firefighters using rescue dogs heard her screams and worked for
0:02:01 > 0:02:05hours to pull her from the wreckage of her home.
0:02:08 > 0:02:12Her family's fate is unknown.
0:02:12 > 0:02:14Everyone here, it seems, has their own incredible story of a
0:02:14 > 0:02:17struggle to survive.
0:02:17 > 0:02:19Once the boulders and trees came through our
0:02:19 > 0:02:23house we climbed up onto the roof and waited till the creek went down
0:02:23 > 0:02:30a bit and then we climbed off the roof and got to our neighbour's.
0:02:30 > 0:02:34We just got pulled out of there by the firefighters.
0:02:34 > 0:02:41Police are now rescuing neighbours.
0:02:41 > 0:02:43We heard a little baby crying.
0:02:43 > 0:02:50We dug down and found a little baby.
0:02:50 > 0:02:52Don't know where it came from,
0:02:53 > 0:02:54Don't know where it came from, we got the out. All the more our
0:02:54 > 0:03:00abysmal. I hope it's OK, they too could write to the hospital but it
0:03:00 > 0:03:04was just a baby, four feet down in the mud, in nowhere. I'm glad we got
0:03:04 > 0:03:06it him.
0:03:18 > 0:03:20A mother and her newborn baby are winched to safety.
0:03:20 > 0:03:23The little girl makes it onto the roof of her
0:03:23 > 0:03:24seven-year-old brother is saved as well.
0:03:24 > 0:03:26Terrifying moments but they are the lucky ones.
0:03:26 > 0:03:28How do you describe it?
0:03:28 > 0:03:30It is devastating.
0:03:30 > 0:03:34The fire created a situation where the dirt was able to wash down.
0:03:34 > 0:03:38Had we still had all the vegetation on the hills it would not have been
0:03:38 > 0:03:46as much of an issue.
0:03:46 > 0:03:48Montecito...
0:03:48 > 0:03:57Why did it happen?
0:03:57 > 0:03:59The downpour soaked an area which had been
0:03:59 > 0:04:02affected with wildfires.
0:04:02 > 0:04:04The earth was baked, leaving it slick and hard.
0:04:04 > 0:04:05The water had nowhere to go
0:04:05 > 0:04:08but down, fast, into the town of
0:04:08 > 0:04:10Montecito with deadly, devastating effect.
0:04:10 > 0:04:11This is one of the most exclusive
0:04:11 > 0:04:14communities in the United States,
0:04:14 > 0:04:18home to stars including actor Rob Lowe and TV
0:04:18 > 0:04:24presenter Ellan DeGeneres.
0:04:24 > 0:04:28Oprah Winfrey posted this video from her garden.
0:04:28 > 0:04:32See how deep the mud is.
0:04:32 > 0:04:34The destruction was not confined to the coast.
0:04:34 > 0:04:37Further inland, in Burbank, a suburb of Los
0:04:37 > 0:04:38Angeles, the cameras captured
0:04:38 > 0:04:44another mudslide in action.
0:04:47 > 0:04:49The mud roared down here with terrifying speed,
0:04:49 > 0:04:53sweeping everything in its path.
0:04:53 > 0:04:57Firefighters will not let us go up that any further.
0:04:57 > 0:04:59They say the situation could change in the blink
0:04:59 > 0:05:00of an eye.
0:05:00 > 0:05:03As you can see, this is how dangerous it is.
0:05:03 > 0:05:06The Pacific coast was hardest hit.
0:05:06 > 0:05:07The financial cost will be immense.
0:05:07 > 0:05:09The human toll, even higher.
0:05:09 > 0:05:20James Cook, BBC News, Montecito.
0:05:22 > 0:05:27A rough month for them. First the fires than this, no warning. Let's
0:05:27 > 0:05:29move on to politics.
0:05:29 > 0:05:31Already this week two top Republicans have announced
0:05:31 > 0:05:34they won't run for office again - it's part of an exodus which is very
0:05:34 > 0:05:37worrying to Republican leaders as they try to hang on to power
0:05:37 > 0:05:39in this year's mid term elections.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41Today, long term congressman Darrell Issa said he's quitting -
0:05:41 > 0:05:44yesterday it was Ed Royce, the powerful chairman of the House
0:05:44 > 0:05:45Foreign Affairs Committee.
0:05:45 > 0:05:47And here's the real problem for Republicans -
0:05:47 > 0:05:49both those men come from districts in California than Democrats have
0:05:49 > 0:05:52a pretty good chance of winning.
0:05:52 > 0:05:55So far 31 Republicans have said they don't want to run again -
0:05:55 > 0:05:56while only 15 Democrats are leaving.
0:05:56 > 0:05:59Is it Washington's toxic politics, is it Trump or is it the fear
0:06:00 > 0:06:05of being back in the minority?
0:06:05 > 0:06:08One of those joining the republican exodus is congressman Charlie Dent.
0:06:08 > 0:06:11He was first elected to the House in 2004 -
0:06:11 > 0:06:14and more recently has been critical of his own party under
0:06:14 > 0:06:15President Trump.
0:06:15 > 0:06:23He joins us now from Capitol Hill.
0:06:23 > 0:06:27You are from Pennsylvania, it is a swing state, are you worried that if
0:06:27 > 0:06:33you leave, if congressmen from the Republican Party leave, you are
0:06:33 > 0:06:36opening up the opportunity for Democrats to sweep the house in the
0:06:36 > 0:06:46midterms?Well, clearly any time incumbent members decided not to run
0:06:46 > 0:06:49again from I will say swing districts or marginal districts that
0:06:49 > 0:06:56makes them more vulnerable. You just mentioned two who are not running
0:06:56 > 0:06:59again, even if you forget about the time and for a moment, history
0:06:59 > 0:07:03states that the party of the president will usually experience
0:07:03 > 0:07:07losses in the mid-term, this year is no different. This midterm election
0:07:07 > 0:07:11will largely be a referendum on Donald Trump and his conduct in
0:07:11 > 0:07:15office, that's a fact. We will have to deal with it. The only question
0:07:15 > 0:07:23is what type of a win will we be facing in the mid-term? A hurricane
0:07:23 > 0:07:28force win or something more than that. I tell my colleagues they
0:07:28 > 0:07:33better prepare for the worst and hope for the best.As you sit down
0:07:33 > 0:07:36with your family and colleagues made the decision not to run again, was
0:07:36 > 0:07:45Donald Trump a factor?A factor, but not necessarily the factor in my
0:07:45 > 0:07:49decision. I have been elected to office now offer 28 years, I have
0:07:49 > 0:07:54been voted 13 times, I am not going to spoil a perfect record. I did not
0:07:54 > 0:07:58have any serious threat from the left or a credible threat from the
0:07:58 > 0:08:01rights of way was not worried election but I did think I'm young
0:08:01 > 0:08:06enough and healthy enough I can do something else with my life. There
0:08:06 > 0:08:09has been a paralysis here caused by the polarisation, just trying to
0:08:09 > 0:08:13accomplish the most basic fundamental tasks of governing, from
0:08:13 > 0:08:17giving the government funded to not defaulting on our obligations,
0:08:17 > 0:08:21providing hurricane relief, budget agreements, these issues have become
0:08:21 > 0:08:24enormously difficult to pass. I have to say there is a frustration, for
0:08:24 > 0:08:30me, in that regard because the one committee that actually has to do
0:08:30 > 0:08:35something every year, keep the government running, I'm on that.We
0:08:35 > 0:08:39saw with an example of bipartisanship yesterday, with
0:08:39 > 0:08:42Democrats and Republicans are sitting around the table with Donald
0:08:42 > 0:08:45Trump but the president lamented these days the two parties can't get
0:08:45 > 0:08:48along, they can't cut deals like these two in the good old days. Why
0:08:48 > 0:08:55is that?We have a lot of people who come from very safe districts. Their
0:08:55 > 0:09:01political safety is to the base or in sometimes to the French that they
0:09:01 > 0:09:04feel that's where their political safety is, there's not a political
0:09:04 > 0:09:09reward is the consensus and find agreements and ultimately heaven
0:09:09 > 0:09:12forbid a compromise, there is no political reward therefore a lot of
0:09:12 > 0:09:15these folks. I represented a strict and is more a marginal swing
0:09:15 > 0:09:22district can go either way, in districts like mine is easier to
0:09:22 > 0:09:25support consensus agreements, but for a lot of members there is no
0:09:25 > 0:09:28reward for that. They get accused of being surrender rose and sell-outs.
0:09:28 > 0:09:34How much of this is the battle that has been in the party for the soul
0:09:34 > 0:09:38of the party, between the moderate wing and the alt-right? Represented
0:09:38 > 0:09:46by Steve Bannon.Well, before Donald Trump we used to have a litmus test,
0:09:46 > 0:09:52a purity test in the Republican Party, who was pure enough? We used
0:09:52 > 0:09:55to have these self designated chiefs, the purity police who would
0:09:55 > 0:09:59judge you. I was always considered part of the pragmatic wing, so we
0:09:59 > 0:10:03had a battle between the purists and pragmatists. Then along comes Donald
0:10:03 > 0:10:08Trump who is not ideological doctrinaire, he's not a purist, said
0:10:08 > 0:10:12other litmus test has become loyalty to the president. That is really
0:10:12 > 0:10:15confounding to all those previous chiefs of the purity police. We are
0:10:15 > 0:10:22in an odd spot now, where we have this new dynamic that is frankly a
0:10:22 > 0:10:29bit puzzling to me. It's a bit confounding.Charlie dance, thank
0:10:29 > 0:10:34you for joining us. Good luck in your future endeavours. It's
0:10:34 > 0:10:42fascinating. Republicans control three branches of government yet
0:10:42 > 0:10:45listening to Charlie there, he joked about purists versus pragmatists,
0:10:45 > 0:10:49then you put Donald Trump on top, you sense there is a malaise that
0:10:49 > 0:10:54are set in within the GOP.The party is worried about these mid-term
0:10:54 > 0:10:58elections, they are worried that these Republican congressman who
0:10:58 > 0:11:03have decided not to run again, it's not just about members of the house
0:11:03 > 0:11:09who feel nervous about the future, it's also about voters, and those
0:11:09 > 0:11:11congressmen, people like Charlie Dent actually reflect a malaise
0:11:11 > 0:11:15among voters in the country. If those people do not turn up in the
0:11:15 > 0:11:20mid-term elections then as the congressman was suggesting, the
0:11:20 > 0:11:24party could be in foray hurricane, November. If you are a moderate in
0:11:24 > 0:11:28this country and you would like more cooperation between Republicans and
0:11:28 > 0:11:31Democrats then exactly the kind of person you would want to have an
0:11:31 > 0:11:35office is somebody like Congressman Charlie Dent, and losing him suggest
0:11:35 > 0:11:39the country will become more extreme and a lot less so. He is one of
0:11:39 > 0:11:44those rare centrists at the moment. -- not less so.
0:11:44 > 0:11:46A top Democrat has gone rogue on the Russia investigation.
0:11:46 > 0:11:48Dianne Feinstein, the senior Democrat on the Senate
0:11:48 > 0:11:49Judiciary Committee, has shocked Republicans
0:11:49 > 0:11:52by unilaterally making a key piece of testimony public.
0:11:52 > 0:11:56Ms Feinstein put the full transcript of the committee's interview
0:11:56 > 0:11:59with the head of Fusion GPS on her website.
0:11:59 > 0:12:01Fusion GPS is the firm that commissioned the now infamous
0:12:01 > 0:12:03dossier by former UK intelligence officer Christopher Steele that
0:12:03 > 0:12:08alleges collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow.
0:12:08 > 0:12:10The co-founder of Fusion GPS is Glenn Simpson who was interviewed
0:12:10 > 0:12:16for several hours by the Senate committee last year.
0:12:16 > 0:12:19In the transcript Mr Simpson says Mr Steele was concerned that
0:12:19 > 0:12:23Donald Trump could be blackmailed by Russia.
0:12:23 > 0:12:27Joining me is our North America reporter Anthony Zurcher.
0:12:27 > 0:12:30And before we start Anthony I want to ready you this tweet
0:12:30 > 0:12:36from the president this morning.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38"The fact that Sneaky Dianne Feinstein, who has on numerous
0:12:38 > 0:12:40occasions stated that collusion between Trump/Russia has not been
0:12:40 > 0:12:43found, would release testimony in such an underhanded and possibly
0:12:43 > 0:12:44illegal way, totally without authorization, is a disgrace.
0:12:44 > 0:12:48Must have tough Primary!"
0:12:54 > 0:12:58That's a reference to her running again. The president clearly not
0:12:58 > 0:13:03happy. I imagine Dianne Feinstein's Republican colleagues also not happy
0:13:03 > 0:13:07about this decision, to go out with this testimony.And Dianne Feinstein
0:13:07 > 0:13:10was one of the people at that meeting that Christian mentioned
0:13:10 > 0:13:14yesterday, an immigration where they are all fairly friendly, convivial
0:13:14 > 0:13:15type
0:13:17 > 0:13:22then she releases this transcript. I think they wanted to get the full
0:13:22 > 0:13:26record out because leaks had been coming out from this testimony,
0:13:26 > 0:13:32characterised to undermined Christian steel's dossier. Last week
0:13:32 > 0:13:36we saw the committee chair recommends the Justice Department
0:13:36 > 0:13:42investigate Christopher Steele for lying to the FBI, so it seems lines
0:13:42 > 0:13:48are being drawn here.What I wonder is where this leaves the state of
0:13:48 > 0:13:51those Congressional enquiries on to the issue of collusion between
0:13:51 > 0:13:54Russia and possibly the Trump campaign. You have very different
0:13:54 > 0:13:59investigations going on on two of those now you have Democrats and
0:13:59 > 0:14:03Republicans totally at odds and I can't believe those investigations
0:14:03 > 0:14:06are actually functioning. That is one Senate committee that is
0:14:06 > 0:14:11actually managing to work. The house intelligence committee totally
0:14:11 > 0:14:20deadlocked, the Senate intelligence committee shows signs of the
0:14:20 > 0:14:24Republican, the only one that is functioning. Neymar Donald Trump
0:14:24 > 0:14:28talking about our Republicans had to take control on this.We have him
0:14:28 > 0:14:33shouting out to the public that Republicans need to clamp down on
0:14:33 > 0:14:40the investigation, and do away with the witchhunt.It's interesting,
0:14:40 > 0:14:42Senator Chris Coombes saying yesterday there are at an impasse on
0:14:42 > 0:14:46this particular committee and can't see eye to eye. What you see in the
0:14:46 > 0:14:50first quarter of this dossier is that Republicans are tilting
0:14:50 > 0:14:53towards, how did you come up with this information, do you work for
0:14:53 > 0:14:58the Russians? Rather than what did you find out, it's quite insightful.
0:14:58 > 0:15:03The thing that strikes me, Anthony, is just how easy it was, seemingly,
0:15:03 > 0:15:09for Glenn Simpson to find out about Trump's connections to the Mafia.
0:15:09 > 0:15:13Let's look at an extract from the dossier. He says in the book first
0:15:13 > 0:15:18weekend I started boning up on Donald Trump I was able to find
0:15:18 > 0:15:20connections to Italian organised crime and later to a Russian
0:15:20 > 0:15:30organised crime figure.We sort of saw an explanation for opposition
0:15:30 > 0:15:34research, when the first thing he did was order a bunch of books on
0:15:34 > 0:15:37Donald Trump, there's been a lot of investigation into his business
0:15:37 > 0:15:41record that is out there. When Christopher steel went to Russia, he
0:15:41 > 0:15:45started contacting his people there. He said there were very cooperative,
0:15:45 > 0:15:50very open about their dealings with Donald Trump. You must remember the
0:15:50 > 0:15:55context, back in mid-2016, before Russian ties became a hot button
0:15:55 > 0:15:58political issue, they seemed more willing to talk according to
0:15:58 > 0:16:02Simpson, later on, that was when his sources started to climb up because
0:16:02 > 0:16:07they started to feel the heat.Thank you very much for joining us.
0:16:07 > 0:16:13Interesting also that as you pointed out earlier, Steel is saying them,
0:16:13 > 0:16:18Simpson is saying the FBI was investigating this anyway.That will
0:16:18 > 0:16:21really anger the Democrats. Maybe that is why they find Sun has
0:16:21 > 0:16:26released this. What they are saying if this was not the dossier which
0:16:26 > 0:16:29led to special counsel investigation. The FBI were already
0:16:29 > 0:16:34investigating the Russian links as far back as June 20 16. Harry Reid
0:16:34 > 0:16:39who was leading the Democrats in the Senate at the time wrote to James
0:16:39 > 0:16:41Comey and asked if he was investigating Donald Trump, the New
0:16:41 > 0:16:45York Times said there was not, now we find out the FBI were
0:16:45 > 0:16:50investigating Donald Trump as far back as June without the dossier and
0:16:50 > 0:16:54so the question is, why do they talk about Clinton's investigation, into
0:16:54 > 0:17:00the e-mails, and you did not talk about Donald Trump?As you say, that
0:17:00 > 0:17:03will not endear them to the Republicans.
0:17:03 > 0:17:06Most people dream of lots of snow when they go skiing -
0:17:06 > 0:17:07but not this much.
0:17:07 > 0:17:10Thousands of tourists are stranded after heavy snow in the Alps cut
0:17:10 > 0:17:12off towns and villages across Switzerland,
0:17:12 > 0:17:13France and Italy.
0:17:13 > 0:17:15Visitors were even being airlifted out of one of the most
0:17:15 > 0:17:17popular Swiss ski resorts, Zermatt.
0:17:17 > 0:17:19The avalanche risk in the area is the highest it's been
0:17:19 > 0:17:22for almost ten years.
0:17:22 > 0:17:24Tom Burridge reports.
0:17:24 > 0:17:27This is the only way out of Zermatt this morning.
0:17:27 > 0:17:36The luggage of tourists stuck here airlifted out.
0:17:36 > 0:17:38Heavy snow has closed all the roads.
0:17:38 > 0:17:43So those who can catch this shuttle service to a nearby town.
0:17:43 > 0:17:47Waiting on that helipad this lunchtime, Rebecca Smith.
0:17:47 > 0:17:51These are people waiting for the next helicopter out.
0:17:51 > 0:17:54We spoke as she began the first leg of a long
0:17:54 > 0:17:57journey back to Manchester.
0:17:57 > 0:18:00A lot of people will say you are stuck in
0:18:00 > 0:18:02somewhere beautiful, you can go skiing but
0:18:02 > 0:18:04that is not the case, you are stuck in a hotel room
0:18:04 > 0:18:10because of the risk of avalanche.
0:18:10 > 0:18:12So this morning, helicopters were also busy
0:18:12 > 0:18:15clearing avalanches.
0:18:15 > 0:18:18Blowing huge quantities of snow off the
0:18:18 > 0:18:22mountains, which has fallen in recent days.
0:18:22 > 0:18:27In remote areas, one metre of snow fell in just 24 hours.
0:18:27 > 0:18:30And although conditions in Zermatt have improved this morning, the risk
0:18:30 > 0:18:36of avalanche in the area remains high.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40A Swiss company captured this avalanche just outside the town
0:18:40 > 0:18:43last week.
0:18:43 > 0:18:48The deadly force abundantly clear.
0:18:50 > 0:18:55And this was the scene after a recent avalanche in a French town.
0:18:55 > 0:19:02Further south in the resort of Tignes, cafes hidden by the snow.
0:19:02 > 0:19:05It was here that John Bromell from Lincolnshire was snowboarding in
0:19:05 > 0:19:08poor weather on Sunday.
0:19:08 > 0:19:11In Zermatt, the operation to get tourists out on helicopters
0:19:11 > 0:19:12continues.
0:19:12 > 0:19:14Looking forward to getting back down the mountain.
0:19:14 > 0:19:16We live in Australia and we will miss
0:19:16 > 0:19:18the flight from Zurich so we're happy to leave now.
0:19:18 > 0:19:20Heavy snow this winter has made many peoples skiing
0:19:20 > 0:19:23holidays but with some slopes here now closed, too much is causing
0:19:23 > 0:19:33problems and treacherous conditions.
0:19:35 > 0:19:37Steve Bannon's inflated sense of self importance
0:19:37 > 0:19:39couldn't save his job - either at the White House
0:19:40 > 0:19:41or at Breitbart news.
0:19:41 > 0:19:43He was ousted yesterday as head of the conservative website.
0:19:43 > 0:19:46It was spectacular fall from grace for the man who styled
0:19:46 > 0:19:47himself as the architect of Donald Trump's
0:19:47 > 0:19:49extraordinary victory.
0:19:49 > 0:19:50Mr Bannon's statements in the book
0:19:50 > 0:19:52Fire And Fury were the last straw.
0:19:52 > 0:19:54The influential funders of Breitbart pulled their support.
0:19:54 > 0:19:57Now the question is what happens to the populist movement he championed?
0:19:57 > 0:19:59Joshua Green chronicled the relationship between Bannon
0:19:59 > 0:20:02and Trump in his book The Devil's Bargain
0:20:02 > 0:20:10and he joins us now.
0:20:10 > 0:20:15Thanks for coming in. What was Steve Bannon thinking? Did he really think
0:20:15 > 0:20:19you could get away with saying to a reporter the kinds of things you
0:20:19 > 0:20:24said about Donald Trump and his family and keep his bosses support?
0:20:24 > 0:20:27He did, because Bannon really believe that Trump's and action was
0:20:27 > 0:20:34the culmination of a set of forces that existed independent of Trump.
0:20:34 > 0:20:39-- Trump's election. He thought he and not Trump was the true channel
0:20:39 > 0:20:45of those forces, that recognised himself in a movement where he was
0:20:45 > 0:20:49the intellectual architect. We have now learned to buy civilly that
0:20:49 > 0:20:53voters support Trump and not Bannon and he hears, fallen all the way
0:20:53 > 0:20:58from the pinnacle of power.Knowing the two men and having reported on
0:20:58 > 0:21:01both of them as you have, what do you think it was specifically the
0:21:01 > 0:21:06Donald Trump that was really the last straw?For Trump, I think it
0:21:06 > 0:21:11was a man taking credit for his success. There have been news
0:21:11 > 0:21:15reports to the effect that Trump was upset about what Bannon had said
0:21:15 > 0:21:18about his family, about these potentially treasonous Russian
0:21:18 > 0:21:23meetings, that was Bannon's quote, but I think what it really was was
0:21:23 > 0:21:26Trump for Bannon was taking something away from his presidential
0:21:26 > 0:21:29victory by claiming credit for it and it is something Donald Trump
0:21:29 > 0:21:34simply will not abide.That goes back a while. We have seated on the
0:21:34 > 0:21:37Saturday Night Live sketches where Steve Bannon was the real president
0:21:37 > 0:21:41and Trump was made to sit at the tiny table. What happens now to
0:21:41 > 0:21:46Steve Bannon? Is that it?I know Bannon would like to remain relevant
0:21:46 > 0:21:50and politics going forward, he still believes he is an influential
0:21:50 > 0:21:53figure, but without the platform of Breitbart news and a serious radio
0:21:53 > 0:21:57show, both of which he has lost, it's not clear what the venue for
0:21:57 > 0:22:02him to get his message out would be. They put out a string of
0:22:02 > 0:22:04administration and thistles on Sunday saying this as a whole load
0:22:04 > 0:22:09of trash, Fire And Fury, but if you annihilate Steve Bannon, bury him in
0:22:09 > 0:22:12the way you have, don't you tacitly acknowledge that what he said is
0:22:12 > 0:22:19true?It's difficult to come out and call the book fake news, as
0:22:19 > 0:22:22President Trump has, and then go out and attacked one of the main sources
0:22:22 > 0:22:27of that book. I know from my own reporting with Bannon and other
0:22:27 > 0:22:31senior officials that the port represented it Michael Wolff's book
0:22:31 > 0:22:38is essentially the correct one, that Trump is a unfocused president, and
0:22:38 > 0:22:44the Wesselingh is really in chaos most of the time. I think the
0:22:44 > 0:22:48problem for Bannon is that Trump went to people and said listen, it's
0:22:48 > 0:22:53time for you to choose, you are with me or him. -- the White House is in
0:22:53 > 0:22:59chaos. If you are with me, I want to cut ties with Bannon and bury him
0:22:59 > 0:23:03and that's precisely what White House officials have been doing.
0:23:03 > 0:23:06Donald Trump has put a lot of money in Michael Wolff's pocket but he
0:23:06 > 0:23:09clearly does not like the book. He has been talking about libel laws
0:23:09 > 0:23:15today.If somebody says something that is totally and knowingly false,
0:23:15 > 0:23:19that the person that has been abused, the famed, liable to have
0:23:19 > 0:23:25meaningful recourse. Our current libel laws are a sham. And a
0:23:25 > 0:23:31disgrace, and do not represent American values or American
0:23:31 > 0:23:36fairness, so we are going to take a strong look at that.Is this the man
0:23:36 > 0:23:40who accused Ted Cruz's father of being involved in the JFK shooting?
0:23:40 > 0:23:44Or said President Obama was not born in the US? Are we talking about the
0:23:44 > 0:23:51same man?!We are, we are also talking about an empty threat.
0:23:51 > 0:23:55Donald Trump is not going to sue Michael Wolff the deformation, and
0:23:55 > 0:23:59if you does he will sell another million bucks for the author. This
0:23:59 > 0:24:05is Trump's way of issuing response to something he does not like, to
0:24:05 > 0:24:09try to take control of the news cycle.I bet you slightly wish
0:24:09 > 0:24:13Donald Trump had taken on your book like this. Without not have done a
0:24:13 > 0:24:18great thing for you?He could have at least threatened a lawsuit,
0:24:18 > 0:24:21bright!
0:24:21 > 0:24:24One of the things that's interesting, people pointed out
0:24:24 > 0:24:26yesterday there was this extraordinary moment in which had
0:24:26 > 0:24:30Steve Bannon being ousted from Breitbart, the ultimate
0:24:30 > 0:24:35nationalists, populist, the guy who railed against illegal immigration,
0:24:35 > 0:24:39who wanted an American first agenda, on the same day that Donald Trump
0:24:39 > 0:24:43sits there with members of both parties, discusses the possibility
0:24:43 > 0:24:48of comprehensive immigration reform, and announces he is going to Davos.
0:24:48 > 0:24:52That place of the global elite. It has people here scratching their
0:24:52 > 0:24:55heads and wondering, is all that populism that Steve Bannon
0:24:55 > 0:24:59represented, the National is, is that God? Is this going to be the
0:24:59 > 0:25:07year of the globalist Donald Trump? He was the weather vein of the base.
0:25:07 > 0:25:10He kept on the straight and narrow as to what the alt-right thinking.
0:25:10 > 0:25:15Is that what John is thinking? I would not call the base the
0:25:15 > 0:25:19alt-right, I think those are different. But dating the base is
0:25:19 > 0:25:22very concerned about things like immigration. They do not want the
0:25:22 > 0:25:26president to row back on that. There are also supporters of Donald Trump
0:25:26 > 0:25:29who would still say Steve Bannon is very useful for being the base
0:25:29 > 0:25:33whisper and being in touch with the base, and can you really alienate
0:25:33 > 0:25:37him totally? Who knows, Steve Bannon may be back, that's the way this
0:25:37 > 0:25:39president tends to work.
0:25:39 > 0:25:41This is Beyond 100 Days from the BBC.
0:25:41 > 0:25:44Coming up for viewers on the BBC News Channel and BBC World News -
0:25:44 > 0:25:47the 100 women saying NOT US to the ME TOO campaign -
0:25:47 > 0:25:49and the famous French actress who thinks 'pestering men' aren't
0:25:49 > 0:25:52a problem - we'll be asking why.
0:25:52 > 0:25:54And translating Trump - we go to cities around the world
0:25:54 > 0:25:57to ask what they think of the American president -
0:25:57 > 0:25:59is he just as divisive outside of the US?
0:25:59 > 0:26:01We'll be finding out.
0:26:12 > 0:26:15Quite a quiet spell of weather across the British Isles for the
0:26:15 > 0:26:20next few days but not without its own problems. First an old weather
0:26:20 > 0:26:24front lurches with intent across the East, producing rain not just in
0:26:24 > 0:26:30Ipswich, it has to be said. Further west, the fog in some spots never
0:26:30 > 0:26:34really cleared for the greater part of the day. Any good news? Yes there
0:26:34 > 0:26:38was, an awful lot more sunshine around in the south and central
0:26:38 > 0:26:45parts. Those clear skies by date, no great problems, clear skies by
0:26:45 > 0:26:55night, we may end up with a widespread fog problem. Some low
0:26:55 > 0:26:59cloud lurking close by to East Anglia, and the south-east from that
0:26:59 > 0:27:04weather front, good in its own right produce hill fog. First up for the
0:27:04 > 0:27:09new day on Thursday, fog patches, some are really quite dense. Could
0:27:09 > 0:27:13be a real issue if you are on the move first thing. Quite a chilly
0:27:13 > 0:27:16start I would have thought, a touch of frost perhaps across parts of
0:27:16 > 0:27:22Scotland, and here in south-western parts we may see that chance of fog.
0:27:22 > 0:27:25So too through the western side of the Pennines, Wales and West
0:27:25 > 0:27:33Midlands. Out east, the old weather front will be speeding in as it
0:27:33 > 0:27:37forms an area of low pressure close by to the south-eastern quarter of
0:27:37 > 0:27:40the British Isles, some low cloud that will produce hill fog and
0:27:40 > 0:27:44really one of those days. That cloud will be thick enough for there to be
0:27:44 > 0:27:48bits and pieces of rain and drizzle on offer throughout the day in East
0:27:48 > 0:27:53Anglia and the south-east. The odd bit MPs in the North York Moors. The
0:27:53 > 0:27:59best of the sunshine away to the western side of Scotland, down
0:27:59 > 0:28:03through Wales interview south-west of England. If fog lingers, it may
0:28:03 > 0:28:08well be your figures are well down into those single figures. Not a
0:28:08 > 0:28:12particularly warm start to the new day on Friday, again that
0:28:12 > 0:28:17combination of cloud and fog that causes us a bit of concern. Friday a
0:28:17 > 0:28:20quiet day, first signs of a weather front trying to work in toward the
0:28:20 > 0:28:25British Isles. Even as we get as far ahead as the weekend, you see it
0:28:25 > 0:28:30runs into this area of high pressure across western Russia, making the
0:28:30 > 0:28:34progress of that front very slow indeed.
0:30:09 > 0:30:12This is Beyond One Hundred Days, with me Katty Kay in Washington -
0:30:12 > 0:30:13Christian Fraser's in London.
0:30:13 > 0:30:14Our top stories:
0:30:14 > 0:30:1715 people are now known to have died in a series
0:30:17 > 0:30:19of mudslides near Los Angeles - emergency teams are still
0:30:19 > 0:30:21digging into debris.
0:30:21 > 0:30:23And in the European Alps, heavy snow leaves thousands
0:30:23 > 0:30:27of tourists stranded - some needed to be airlifted out.
0:30:27 > 0:30:30Coming up in the next half hour:
0:30:30 > 0:30:33One of France's best-known actresses is among a hundred women to sign
0:30:33 > 0:30:36an open letter warning of a new puritanism after recent
0:30:36 > 0:30:42sexual harassment scandals.
0:30:42 > 0:30:45And a whale of a tale - the humpback that took
0:30:45 > 0:30:48a woman under its fin - saving her from a tiger shark.
0:30:48 > 0:30:51Let us know your thoughts by using the hashtag
0:30:51 > 0:31:01'Beyond-One-Hundred-Days'
0:31:02 > 0:31:04One hundred well-known French women have signed an open letter
0:31:04 > 0:31:08defending the right of men to flirt with women.
0:31:08 > 0:31:13Actress Catherine Deneuve is one of the signatories who says
0:31:13 > 0:31:14the recent campaigns against sexual harassment are creating
0:31:15 > 0:31:18a new wave of puritanism.
0:31:18 > 0:31:20The open letter published in Le Monde, says: "Men have
0:31:20 > 0:31:22been punished summarily, forced out of their jobs
0:31:22 > 0:31:24when all they did was touch someone's knee
0:31:24 > 0:31:27or try to steal a kiss."
0:31:27 > 0:31:32It went on to say: "Rape is a crime, but trying to seduce someone,
0:31:32 > 0:31:35even persistently or clumsily, is not - and nor is men being
0:31:35 > 0:31:38gentlemanly a chauvinist attack."
0:31:38 > 0:31:41We can speak to Sonia Bogdanosky who's one of the women who signed
0:31:41 > 0:31:43the letter in Le Monde.
0:31:43 > 0:31:49She is a film editor and joins us from Paris.
0:31:49 > 0:31:58I noticed, I hope you don't mind me saying, a lot of signatories were of
0:31:58 > 0:32:01an older generation, who might be satisfied with the sexual freedoms
0:32:01 > 0:32:05they won in the 60s, but your critics would say that the battle is
0:32:05 > 0:32:13hardly won.I would say it's not something about sexual liberty. It
0:32:13 > 0:32:21is more... It is some sort of woman and about the way we can answer to
0:32:21 > 0:32:26things that are not crime. We say rape is a crime, but a lot of things
0:32:26 > 0:32:33are not a crime and we are not only victims. It is not about so much
0:32:33 > 0:32:42sexual liberty, but the fact that we can choose only be seen as victims,
0:32:42 > 0:32:47we can answer to this fact has happened. I have to say that I'm not
0:32:47 > 0:32:54a nonperson, I'm not a celebrity, I'm not Catherine Deneuve. A lot of
0:32:54 > 0:32:59young people signed the letter. A lot of unknown persons signed the
0:32:59 > 0:33:03letter. It is not just one generation.Speaking as a man,
0:33:03 > 0:33:12doesn't it come down to context, if you hold a position of hower power
0:33:12 > 0:33:16over a woman you have to be more careful about how you approach
0:33:16 > 0:33:20someone, can it be considered aggressive or threatening and if it
0:33:20 > 0:33:28can, you shouldn't do it. It is the context isn't it?It is the context,
0:33:28 > 0:33:34but Texn't is not talking about what happens in work. The work place is
0:33:34 > 0:33:40something special where people have power and the text is more talking
0:33:40 > 0:33:46about what happens in the metro, in the street, between people who have
0:33:46 > 0:33:52not power relations. And in the metro I don't feel I have got more
0:33:52 > 0:33:58or less power than the man who will be annoying me. So yes I'm not a
0:33:58 > 0:34:04man, I can't judge as a man. But it is normal for me.If you were felt
0:34:04 > 0:34:11up in the metro, you would say stop and be angered by that?Yes. But I
0:34:11 > 0:34:14wouldn't feel necessarily humiliated, I wouldn't feel I would
0:34:14 > 0:34:22be a victim. The first time I was conscious of that, I wasn't in the
0:34:22 > 0:34:26metro, I was young and there was a guy, he was drunk and he had a
0:34:26 > 0:34:39bottle and he put the bottle on his penis and his put the bottle near
0:34:39 > 0:34:47the face of a woman and the woman slapped the the bottle and said, now
0:34:47 > 0:34:54you stop this. If I wouldn't be this woman I would be totally scared and
0:34:54 > 0:35:02shocked and I thought, oh, but can I be something more than a victim.I
0:35:02 > 0:35:10don't really understand Sonia what this let letter is about and if it
0:35:10 > 0:35:16is no about the work place and all the people we have seen they have
0:35:16 > 0:35:21been sacked, because it because they abused their pow ever over a younger
0:35:21 > 0:35:25woman. I don't understand why a 25-year-old woman should have to put
0:35:25 > 0:35:29up with that. Don't you want a work environment where a 25-year-old
0:35:29 > 0:35:34woman can turn up for work and an older guy who wants to try a kiss,
0:35:34 > 0:35:42she shouldn't have to put up with that?I want to work normal with
0:35:42 > 0:35:52normal ways of dealing with people. But if you are to sue somebody, to
0:35:52 > 0:35:58denounce somebody if there is a problem at your work place, it has
0:35:58 > 0:36:05to be done in legal ways. That is what this text is also about. You
0:36:05 > 0:36:09can't just consider that a hashtag should solve the problem.But the
0:36:09 > 0:36:15people who have been fired have been fired following investigations and
0:36:15 > 0:36:19those organisations believed that the men behaved inappropriately. I
0:36:19 > 0:36:23imagine that you would want an environment in which it is safe for
0:36:23 > 0:36:27women to turn up to work and therefore organisations following an
0:36:27 > 0:36:31investigation get rid of those men who abuse their power.In France,
0:36:31 > 0:36:38there is at least one case that I have known about a man who was
0:36:38 > 0:36:44dismissed from his job and there was not, there was just... The complaint
0:36:44 > 0:36:51against him. There was not something legal and there was, well, it's more
0:36:51 > 0:36:56complicated, but that is not for me, the main point of this text. That is
0:36:56 > 0:37:01not the reason I signed this text. Thank you very much for being with
0:37:01 > 0:37:08us. I was reading a letter in the Times the other week, an article
0:37:08 > 0:37:12actually by Giles Coren, he said that after the hashtag Me Too
0:37:12 > 0:37:16campaign he had been writing to a colleague, something who offered him
0:37:16 > 0:37:20work and he didn't know this woman and wrote back said I would love to
0:37:20 > 0:37:25take on the work and then wrote, kiss, kiss, two crosses and he
0:37:25 > 0:37:28stopped before he sent it. He thought, I don't know is in woman,
0:37:28 > 0:37:33why am I sending the two kisses. So he is changing his behaviour and he
0:37:33 > 0:37:42said, is that a good thing, is it making me think about the way I
0:37:42 > 0:37:48approach woman or is the paranoia that men face.Perhaps we need an
0:37:48 > 0:37:54open and difficult conversation about this, is it, why should he put
0:37:54 > 0:37:59kisses, he wouldn't be giving her kisses? If it is a purely
0:37:59 > 0:38:06professional situation.You wouldn't do it with your Ed toer.-- editor.
0:38:06 > 0:38:11Always does it make the person who is on the receiving end of this feel
0:38:11 > 0:38:18uncomfortable. I'm 53, it doesn't happen to me, but when I was in my
0:38:18 > 0:38:2420s, routinely older men in positions of power would hit on he.
0:38:24 > 0:38:28It happens to all the women I know. Why should young women have to be in
0:38:28 > 0:38:33that situation. If we have go over board in one area where men don't
0:38:33 > 0:38:39feel they can put XX on an e-mail, maybe that is no bad thing.I'm in
0:38:39 > 0:38:47my 40s, they don't hit on me any more either. Right.
0:38:47 > 0:38:49Donald Trump's supporters give the President a lot of latitude.
0:38:49 > 0:38:52But one area they are very wedded too is clamping down
0:38:52 > 0:38:53on illegal immigration.
0:38:53 > 0:38:56So when Mr Trump yesterday suggested he would support giving illegal
0:38:56 > 0:38:58immigrants a path to US citizenship - there were cries of
0:38:58 > 0:38:59outrage from his base.
0:38:59 > 0:39:02One ardent conservative supporter tweeted that Mr Trump would lose
0:39:02 > 0:39:05a lot of support if he went ahead with a more liberal
0:39:05 > 0:39:06approach to immigration.
0:39:06 > 0:39:10The issue is pressing because the President is trying
0:39:10 > 0:39:12to do a deal with Democrats on children brought here
0:39:12 > 0:39:15illegally by their parents - the programme known as DACA.
0:39:15 > 0:39:17Let's speak to Alan Gomez - an Immigration reporter for USA
0:39:17 > 0:39:22Today and joins us from Miami.
0:39:22 > 0:39:26You listened to the president's comments with those democrats and
0:39:26 > 0:39:32Republicans yesterday, where does the president stand on immigration?
0:39:32 > 0:39:36That is a good question. If everything we heard from the meeting
0:39:36 > 0:39:44yesterday, he seemed very open to providing a path to legalisation for
0:39:44 > 0:39:49these 800,000 young undocumented immigrants, referred to as Dreamers,
0:39:49 > 0:39:55he said he is open to providing a path to legalisation for all 12
0:39:55 > 0:39:59million undocumented immigrants. But the president has gone in a few
0:39:59 > 0:40:02different directions when talking about immigration throughout the
0:40:02 > 0:40:05campaign he got very hardline and promised there would be no amnesty
0:40:05 > 0:40:12and they would have go back home. But once he came into office he did
0:40:12 > 0:40:15eliminate the programme that protects those people but urged
0:40:15 > 0:40:19congress to pass a solution to give them a perm Nantes home in the
0:40:19 > 0:40:24United States -- permanent home in the United States and he was open to
0:40:24 > 0:40:28a more broad legalisation. He was leaving the details to congress.It
0:40:28 > 0:40:31is interesting, I covered the election as I travelled around,
0:40:31 > 0:40:35there were some issues that supporters of Donald Trump kept
0:40:35 > 0:40:40coming back to and immigration is one. I think that many of Trump's
0:40:40 > 0:40:43supporters may accept there has to be something done about these young
0:40:43 > 0:40:47people brought to America by their parents illegally. I don't think
0:40:47 > 0:40:53they would accept a comprehensive reform to give 12 people here a pass
0:40:53 > 0:40:58to citizenship. I don't see that flying with his base, do you?I
0:40:58 > 0:41:03think you're assessment is perfect. These 800,000 young people are a
0:41:03 > 0:41:07different group. Even anti-immigration groups, some of the
0:41:07 > 0:41:11groups who have long fought for anything they describe as amnesty
0:41:11 > 0:41:15have said they're different and they didn't make the decision to come to
0:41:15 > 0:41:19the United States and they have been educated here and assimilated to the
0:41:19 > 0:41:26country. A lot don't even speak Spanish. And they make the argue m
0:41:26 > 0:41:33that we will make exception in one case in exchange for more border
0:41:33 > 0:41:37security and more interior enforcement. But if he talks about a
0:41:37 > 0:41:41path to citizen ship for 11 undocumented immigrants, that will
0:41:41 > 0:41:45be different and his base would blow up and say he lied on the campaign
0:41:45 > 0:41:51and is going back on one of his central promises.Big thing left
0:41:51 > 0:41:58nowhere despite is in 50 minute round table, whether you do
0:41:58 > 0:42:03something on it. Here is the moment it was suggested they could do DACA
0:42:03 > 0:42:11in isolation.What about a clean DACA bill with a commitment we go
0:42:11 > 0:42:16into a comprehensive immigration reform like we did back when Kennedy
0:42:16 > 0:42:23was here.I think that is what Dick is saying we will do DACA and then
0:42:23 > 0:42:31start on phase two. That would be would be comprehensive. A loft o'
0:42:31 > 0:42:42people would like to see that.You need to be clear. What the Senator
0:42:42 > 0:42:46is asking, you have to be security. I think that what is you said.I
0:42:46 > 0:42:52think you said something different. The transcript of that didn't appear
0:42:52 > 0:42:56in the official transcript. Here the tweet that Donald Trump sent out
0:42:56 > 0:42:58after:
0:43:03 > 0:43:09Are the Republicans going to let him get away with doing DACA without
0:43:09 > 0:43:15putting the sprinkles on the top?No the congress would not go along with
0:43:15 > 0:43:22a bill that only allows legalisation of the dreamers. It is what you get
0:43:22 > 0:43:32in return. That is what they will be negotiating, as we approach the
0:43:32 > 0:43:37deadline for DACA ending. At first the White House put a list of thing
0:43:37 > 0:43:42they need, the worder wall and more agents and an end to chain migration
0:43:42 > 0:43:47and the end of the visa lottery and crackdown on sanctuary cities. And
0:43:47 > 0:43:51at the end of the meeting yesterday after they closed the doors and the
0:43:51 > 0:43:59press was kicked out, they did zero in on a few points, DACA in exchange
0:43:59 > 0:44:04or the end of visa lottery. But what border security means, that is what
0:44:04 > 0:44:07we are all going to be looking for and what will determine whether
0:44:07 > 0:44:11Democrats go along and President Trump ends up signing the bill.
0:44:11 > 0:44:23Thank you very much. From a very sunny Miami. I like you had the two
0:44:23 > 0:44:30elder guys explaining to the female Senator what she was saying!
0:44:30 > 0:44:33Donald Trump's first year in the White House has been followed
0:44:33 > 0:44:34closely around the world.
0:44:34 > 0:44:37We asked people on the streets of seven cities around the world
0:44:37 > 0:44:38what they made of the President so far.
0:45:06 > 0:45:12He is a good leader.He don't represent ladies or anybody.
0:45:14 > 0:45:21He is good at distracting people.He has started straight.All his deeds
0:45:21 > 0:45:24are negative and reflecting bad images. For the Americans
0:45:24 > 0:45:29themselves.He is a man of his words.
0:45:33 > 0:45:36I think he is very good.
0:45:39 > 0:45:45He backed out of Paris treaty.The policy against Paris agreement one
0:45:45 > 0:45:48of worst decisions of the year.
0:45:49 > 0:45:54In the start when he was the president for the United States, he
0:45:54 > 0:46:00was talking about to make the peace in the Middle East.He has
0:46:00 > 0:46:06recognised Jerusalem as our natural capital.Recognises Jerusalem as the
0:46:06 > 0:46:14capital of Israel was his worst decision ever.Jews are trying to
0:46:14 > 0:46:18get into America and it is more difficult now.The immigration
0:46:18 > 0:46:25attitude he has towards foreigners can be negative in the future.
0:46:39 > 0:46:43They voted for him, they get what they asked for.
0:46:50 > 0:47:05Donald Trump one year on, the global view. This is beyond 100 days.
0:47:05 > 0:47:06Still to come - glass ceilings exist, even
0:47:06 > 0:47:09for former prime ministers - we speak to New Zealand's Helen
0:47:09 > 0:47:12Clark about her time at the UN, and her global fight
0:47:12 > 0:47:13against drug abuse.
0:47:13 > 0:47:15The trial of the former football coach Barry Bennell on charges
0:47:15 > 0:47:20of child sexual offences has heard from an alleged victim.
0:47:20 > 0:47:23Barry Bennell, who's now known as Richard Jones, denies 48 charges
0:47:23 > 0:47:24of child sexual abuse.
0:47:24 > 0:47:25Dan Roan reports.
0:47:25 > 0:47:29Back in the 1980s, Barry Bennell worked with some of the most
0:47:29 > 0:47:30promising young footballers in the north-west of England.
0:47:30 > 0:47:32Youth team coach at Crewe Alexandra.
0:47:32 > 0:47:39He also had links with Manchester City.
0:47:39 > 0:47:42Liverpool Crown Court was told the 64-year-old, who now causes of
0:47:42 > 0:47:44Richard Jones, exploited young boys dreams of
0:47:44 > 0:47:45becoming footballers in
0:47:45 > 0:47:46order to sexually abuse them.
0:47:46 > 0:47:55With Bennell watching on via video link,
0:47:55 > 0:47:57the jury was shown footage of the first complainant's interview.
0:47:57 > 0:48:00He first met him when he came as a scout for
0:48:00 > 0:48:01Manchester City.
0:48:01 > 0:48:03The alleged victim said he was abused up to 100 times
0:48:03 > 0:48:05along with other boys by Bennell at his home
0:48:05 > 0:48:07and in a shop he owned in
0:48:07 > 0:48:10Derbyshire village.
0:48:10 > 0:48:13He had up to three boys share a bed with him.
0:48:13 > 0:48:15The said none dare speak out for fear of
0:48:15 > 0:48:15jeopardising their football prospects.
0:48:22 > 0:48:27The court was shown a recording of this BBC
0:48:27 > 0:48:29programme from November 2016 featuring other alleged victims
0:48:29 > 0:48:32which the complainant said left him in complete meltdown, prompting him
0:48:32 > 0:48:37to contact police for the first time.
0:48:37 > 0:48:40Appearing behind a screen in court he was cross examined by the
0:48:40 > 0:48:43defence, and asked if his complaint was financially motivated.
0:48:43 > 0:48:47I am not in it for the money, he said.
0:48:47 > 0:48:49The court was read transcripts from Bennell's interview with the police.
0:48:49 > 0:48:53He said he has had no sexual contact with him
0:48:53 > 0:48:59and remembered thinking he
0:48:59 > 0:49:03was the one that got away with it he was not one of my victims.
0:49:03 > 0:49:04It is impossible.
0:49:04 > 0:49:11The trial continues.
0:49:21 > 0:49:23You're watching Beyond One Hundred Days -
0:49:23 > 0:49:26every 25 minutes here in America, a baby is born addicted to opioids.
0:49:26 > 0:49:29The scale of both use and abuse of the drugs in the United States
0:49:29 > 0:49:31is hard to overstate.
0:49:31 > 0:49:33The UK too has an increasingly urgent problem with drug overdoses
0:49:33 > 0:49:36hitting record levels in England and Wales, last year.
0:49:36 > 0:49:39And so it was with the scale of the global crisis in mind,
0:49:39 > 0:49:42that our next guest took up her new post as Commissioner
0:49:42 > 0:49:48with the Global Commission on Drug Policy.
0:49:48 > 0:49:51Helen Clark has also served as the Prime Minister of New Zealand
0:49:51 > 0:49:53and as the head of the UN's Development Programme.
0:49:53 > 0:49:55And she joins us in the studio now.
0:49:55 > 0:50:02I want to talk about your old job in development. Development funding is
0:50:02 > 0:50:08not very trendy now, there are governments slashing budgets, what
0:50:08 > 0:50:13effect does that have?It has a big effect. Particularly on the poor but
0:50:13 > 0:50:19stable countries, but not only has the amount of the development
0:50:19 > 0:50:25assistance plateaued give or take, but much more of it is going into
0:50:25 > 0:50:30the crisis end, the people fleeing conflict and subject to horrific
0:50:30 > 0:50:34disaster. The amount that is there for the poor but stable who need the
0:50:34 > 0:50:38hand up is not as good.So much conflict around the world at the
0:50:38 > 0:50:43moment, I was watching a densely detailed documentary on the BBC the
0:50:43 > 0:50:50House of Saud that talked of the funding for arms and the amount that
0:50:50 > 0:50:55is poured in, millions by the House of Saud. Imagine if just a fraction
0:50:55 > 0:51:01of that had gone to development.Oh sure, if we could take what was
0:51:01 > 0:51:06spent on militaries and put it into peaceful development, the world
0:51:06 > 0:51:10would be a transformed and more peaceful place.Would it be
0:51:10 > 0:51:14transformed in the sense when you have gulfs between various
0:51:14 > 0:51:19countries, between Europe and the west and Africa, you pay in the long
0:51:19 > 0:51:23run, because you get such huge population movements?Yes if you
0:51:23 > 0:51:34look at the movement out of sub-Saha ran Africa, that comes from the
0:51:34 > 0:51:41economic problems. These people are young guys who want to work.To stop
0:51:41 > 0:51:44that, Europe and America should change its attitude to Africa and
0:51:44 > 0:51:50get money in there to stop the flow? Absolutely it is about a Marshall
0:51:50 > 0:51:53plan for Africa, that wants investment and opportunities to
0:51:53 > 0:51:59employ its people. With that you would pretty much curb the flow. As
0:51:59 > 0:52:03long as there isn't opportunity, people will seek it where it is.
0:52:03 > 0:52:10That is the history of people. My forebearers came from this set of
0:52:10 > 0:52:17islands.Not very trendy in America either.No, let me talk about you
0:52:17 > 0:52:21new job as hold of the global commission on drugs policy, the
0:52:21 > 0:52:29United States is in the grip of an opioid epidemic. You have advocated
0:52:29 > 0:52:38decriminalising, but a lot of the people who get hooked on opioids in
0:52:38 > 0:52:43the United States do so legally on pain killers. What do you do about
0:52:43 > 0:52:49that.I'm one of a range of commissioners, there is about 25 of
0:52:49 > 0:52:57us and lot are former heads of governments and I'm aware of the
0:52:57 > 0:53:02seriousness of the opioid crisis and it needs a wide range of responses.
0:53:02 > 0:53:06It needs substitution therapy as an option. In the United Kingdom itself
0:53:06 > 0:53:10there is a spike in deaths as well and there needs to be more harm
0:53:10 > 0:53:15reduction measures put in place. But the general position of commission
0:53:15 > 0:53:18which I've just joined but has been going for seven or eight years, that
0:53:18 > 0:53:24you need to move to a form of legal regulation. Because prohibition is a
0:53:24 > 0:53:27criminal's dream and raises the price and puts more people in
0:53:27 > 0:53:33danger.Do you think that drug companies in the United States are
0:53:33 > 0:53:38complicit in this opioid crisis the country is having, because they have
0:53:38 > 0:53:45pushed pain killers on to patients? I understand there has been
0:53:45 > 0:53:50incentives to doctors to prescribe these drugs more than best practice
0:53:50 > 0:53:56would suggest. But it is also true that a large amount of the problem
0:53:56 > 0:54:01comes not from those who have received the legal prescription, but
0:54:01 > 0:54:07from the diversion of the drugs prescribed into other hands. And
0:54:07 > 0:54:11there is rather loose regulation I think in the United States which has
0:54:11 > 0:54:17opened up this area of problem. Thank you very much for joining us.
0:54:17 > 0:54:24We are going to have more of this problem, opioid addiction is huge in
0:54:24 > 0:54:31the United States. Communities have been decimated by these pills.
0:54:31 > 0:54:34Something more cheerful.
0:54:34 > 0:54:37Now, a remarkable tail of a woman and a whale.
0:54:37 > 0:54:39Marine biologist Nan Hauser says a humpback whale
0:54:39 > 0:54:41protected her from a tiger shark during a research expedition
0:54:41 > 0:54:42in the Cook Islands.
0:54:42 > 0:54:45She says the humpback tucked her under its pectoral fin
0:54:45 > 0:54:46to keep her from harm.
0:54:46 > 0:54:48Here's Nan now describing what happened.
0:54:48 > 0:54:50There's a great big tiger shark over there.
0:54:50 > 0:54:52Oh.
0:54:52 > 0:54:59I was in the water and he approached me and he didn't stop.
0:54:59 > 0:55:03And he put me on his head.
0:55:03 > 0:55:09I kept trying to get away but for ten and a half minutes,
0:55:09 > 0:55:12he was tucking me under his pectoral fins and lifting me up out
0:55:12 > 0:55:16of the water and just rolling around with me on his body.
0:55:16 > 0:55:19I saw a whale in the distance that kept tail slapping
0:55:19 > 0:55:22but I still never put it together that there was a shark right there.
0:55:22 > 0:55:24Humpbacks are altruistic.
0:55:24 > 0:55:27They have this incredible behaviour where they will
0:55:27 > 0:55:32rush into a situation and save another species.
0:55:32 > 0:55:35I'm probably the first human on record that they've saved.
0:55:35 > 0:55:38Um, man, the whale.
0:55:38 > 0:55:42Literally there.
0:55:42 > 0:55:43Thank you.
0:55:43 > 0:55:44I love you too.
0:55:44 > 0:55:46I love you too, I do.
0:55:46 > 0:55:53I love you.
0:55:53 > 0:56:01Isn't that amazing?I would carry to save your life.Would you you? It is
0:56:01 > 0:56:05like snail and the whale that I read to my son. He loves that book. The
0:56:05 > 0:56:09sense that he is carrying her to safety. We like that story a lot.
0:56:09 > 0:56:21Yeah.Coming up next...Humpback whale altruism.Next on the BBC
0:56:21 > 0:56:24outside source. Now we will see you same time tomorrow. Thanks for
0:56:24 > 0:56:26watching. Goodbye.