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0:00:06 > 0:00:09You're watching Beyond 100 Days on PBS.

0:00:09 > 0:00:12A wealthy area of California is swamped in dangerous mudslides.

0:00:12 > 0:00:17At least 15 people have been killed in the hills around Santa Barbara.

0:00:17 > 0:00:20Rescue workers use helicopters to pull people to safety in an area

0:00:20 > 0:00:27that is home to some of America's most famous media stars.

0:00:27 > 0:00:28The great Republican exodus.

0:00:28 > 0:00:30Another top conservative lawmaker says he's calling it quits

0:00:30 > 0:00:33amid signs the party is struggling.

0:00:33 > 0:00:35Also on the programme...

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0:00:37 > 0:00:41resorts after heavy snow in the Alps.

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0:01:00 > 0:01:02Hello and welcome - I'm Katty Kay in Washington

0:01:02 > 0:01:04and Christian Fraser is in London.

0:01:04 > 0:01:07At least 15 people have been killed in southern California by flash

0:01:07 > 0:01:08floods and mudslides.

0:01:08 > 0:01:11Huge boulders rolled down hillsides crushing cars and smashing

0:01:11 > 0:01:13into homes after the first rain for several months in

0:01:13 > 0:01:17Santa Barbara county.

0:01:17 > 0:01:20Around 50 kilometres of the main coastal road have been closed

0:01:20 > 0:01:23and rescuers are trying to reach a group of 300 people thought to be

0:01:23 > 0:01:25trapped in one neighbourhood, east of Santa Barbara,

0:01:25 > 0:01:32James Cook reports.

0:01:32 > 0:01:42On California's Pacific coast, ordeal by the elements continues.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45First, they endured the largest fire in the state's history.

0:01:45 > 0:01:46Next came torrential rain, more intense

0:01:46 > 0:01:48than anyone here could remember.

0:01:48 > 0:01:50Then, within minutes, destruction, caused by an unstoppable wall of mud

0:01:50 > 0:01:54and debris.

0:01:54 > 0:01:56This 14-year-old survived.

0:01:56 > 0:01:59Even she does not know how.

0:01:59 > 0:02:01Firefighters using rescue dogs heard her screams and worked for

0:02:01 > 0:02:05hours to pull her from the wreckage of her home.

0:02:08 > 0:02:12Her family's fate is unknown.

0:02:12 > 0:02:14Everyone here, it seems, has their own incredible story of a

0:02:14 > 0:02:17struggle to survive.

0:02:17 > 0:02:19Once the boulders and trees came through our

0:02:19 > 0:02:23house we climbed up onto the roof and waited till the creek went down

0:02:23 > 0:02:30a bit and then we climbed off the roof and got to our neighbour's.

0:02:30 > 0:02:34We just got pulled out of there by the firefighters.

0:02:34 > 0:02:41Police are now rescuing neighbours.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43We heard a little baby crying.

0:02:43 > 0:02:50We dug down and found a little baby.

0:02:50 > 0:02:52Don't know where it came from,

0:02:53 > 0:02:54Don't know where it came from, we got the out. All the more our

0:02:54 > 0:03:00abysmal. I hope it's OK, they too could write to the hospital but it

0:03:00 > 0:03:04was just a baby, four feet down in the mud, in nowhere. I'm glad we got

0:03:04 > 0:03:06it him.

0:03:18 > 0:03:20A mother and her newborn baby are winched to safety.

0:03:20 > 0:03:23The little girl makes it onto the roof of her

0:03:23 > 0:03:24seven-year-old brother is saved as well.

0:03:24 > 0:03:26Terrifying moments but they are the lucky ones.

0:03:26 > 0:03:28How do you describe it?

0:03:28 > 0:03:30It is devastating.

0:03:30 > 0:03:34The fire created a situation where the dirt was able to wash down.

0:03:34 > 0:03:38Had we still had all the vegetation on the hills it would not have been

0:03:38 > 0:03:46as much of an issue.

0:03:46 > 0:03:48Montecito...

0:03:48 > 0:03:57Why did it happen?

0:03:57 > 0:03:59The downpour soaked an area which had been

0:03:59 > 0:04:02affected with wildfires.

0:04:02 > 0:04:04The earth was baked, leaving it slick and hard.

0:04:04 > 0:04:05The water had nowhere to go

0:04:05 > 0:04:08but down, fast, into the town of

0:04:08 > 0:04:10Montecito with deadly, devastating effect.

0:04:10 > 0:04:11This is one of the most exclusive

0:04:11 > 0:04:14communities in the United States,

0:04:14 > 0:04:18home to stars including actor Rob Lowe and TV

0:04:18 > 0:04:24presenter Ellan DeGeneres.

0:04:24 > 0:04:28Oprah Winfrey posted this video from her garden.

0:04:28 > 0:04:32See how deep the mud is.

0:04:32 > 0:04:34The destruction was not confined to the coast.

0:04:34 > 0:04:37Further inland, in Burbank, a suburb of Los

0:04:37 > 0:04:38Angeles, the cameras captured

0:04:38 > 0:04:44another mudslide in action.

0:04:47 > 0:04:49The mud roared down here with terrifying speed,

0:04:49 > 0:04:53sweeping everything in its path.

0:04:53 > 0:04:57Firefighters will not let us go up that any further.

0:04:57 > 0:04:59They say the situation could change in the blink

0:04:59 > 0:05:00of an eye.

0:05:00 > 0:05:03As you can see, this is how dangerous it is.

0:05:03 > 0:05:06The Pacific coast was hardest hit.

0:05:06 > 0:05:07The financial cost will be immense.

0:05:07 > 0:05:09The human toll, even higher.

0:05:09 > 0:05:20James Cook, BBC News, Montecito.

0:05:22 > 0:05:27A rough month for them. First the fires than this, no warning. Let's

0:05:27 > 0:05:29move on to politics.

0:05:29 > 0:05:31Already this week two top Republicans have announced

0:05:31 > 0:05:34they won't run for office again - it's part of an exodus which is very

0:05:34 > 0:05:37worrying to Republican leaders as they try to hang on to power

0:05:37 > 0:05:39in this year's mid term elections.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41Today, long term congressman Darrell Issa said he's quitting -

0:05:41 > 0:05:44yesterday it was Ed Royce, the powerful chairman of the House

0:05:44 > 0:05:45Foreign Affairs Committee.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47And here's the real problem for Republicans -

0:05:47 > 0:05:49both those men come from districts in California than Democrats have

0:05:49 > 0:05:52a pretty good chance of winning.

0:05:52 > 0:05:55So far 31 Republicans have said they don't want to run again -

0:05:55 > 0:05:56while only 15 Democrats are leaving.

0:05:56 > 0:05:59Is it Washington's toxic politics, is it Trump or is it the fear

0:06:00 > 0:06:05of being back in the minority?

0:06:05 > 0:06:08One of those joining the republican exodus is congressman Charlie Dent.

0:06:08 > 0:06:11He was first elected to the House in 2004 -

0:06:11 > 0:06:14and more recently has been critical of his own party under

0:06:14 > 0:06:15President Trump.

0:06:15 > 0:06:23He joins us now from Capitol Hill.

0:06:23 > 0:06:27You are from Pennsylvania, it is a swing state, are you worried that if

0:06:27 > 0:06:33you leave, if congressmen from the Republican Party leave, you are

0:06:33 > 0:06:36opening up the opportunity for Democrats to sweep the house in the

0:06:36 > 0:06:46midterms?Well, clearly any time incumbent members decided not to run

0:06:46 > 0:06:49again from I will say swing districts or marginal districts that

0:06:49 > 0:06:56makes them more vulnerable. You just mentioned two who are not running

0:06:56 > 0:06:59again, even if you forget about the time and for a moment, history

0:06:59 > 0:07:03states that the party of the president will usually experience

0:07:03 > 0:07:07losses in the mid-term, this year is no different. This midterm election

0:07:07 > 0:07:11will largely be a referendum on Donald Trump and his conduct in

0:07:11 > 0:07:15office, that's a fact. We will have to deal with it. The only question

0:07:15 > 0:07:23is what type of a win will we be facing in the mid-term? A hurricane

0:07:23 > 0:07:28force win or something more than that. I tell my colleagues they

0:07:28 > 0:07:33better prepare for the worst and hope for the best.As you sit down

0:07:33 > 0:07:36with your family and colleagues made the decision not to run again, was

0:07:36 > 0:07:45Donald Trump a factor?A factor, but not necessarily the factor in my

0:07:45 > 0:07:49decision. I have been elected to office now offer 28 years, I have

0:07:49 > 0:07:54been voted 13 times, I am not going to spoil a perfect record. I did not

0:07:54 > 0:07:58have any serious threat from the left or a credible threat from the

0:07:58 > 0:08:01rights of way was not worried election but I did think I'm young

0:08:01 > 0:08:06enough and healthy enough I can do something else with my life. There

0:08:06 > 0:08:09has been a paralysis here caused by the polarisation, just trying to

0:08:09 > 0:08:13accomplish the most basic fundamental tasks of governing, from

0:08:13 > 0:08:17giving the government funded to not defaulting on our obligations,

0:08:17 > 0:08:21providing hurricane relief, budget agreements, these issues have become

0:08:21 > 0:08:24enormously difficult to pass. I have to say there is a frustration, for

0:08:24 > 0:08:30me, in that regard because the one committee that actually has to do

0:08:30 > 0:08:35something every year, keep the government running, I'm on that.We

0:08:35 > 0:08:39saw with an example of bipartisanship yesterday, with

0:08:39 > 0:08:42Democrats and Republicans are sitting around the table with Donald

0:08:42 > 0:08:45Trump but the president lamented these days the two parties can't get

0:08:45 > 0:08:48along, they can't cut deals like these two in the good old days. Why

0:08:48 > 0:08:55is that?We have a lot of people who come from very safe districts. Their

0:08:55 > 0:09:01political safety is to the base or in sometimes to the French that they

0:09:01 > 0:09:04feel that's where their political safety is, there's not a political

0:09:04 > 0:09:09reward is the consensus and find agreements and ultimately heaven

0:09:09 > 0:09:12forbid a compromise, there is no political reward therefore a lot of

0:09:12 > 0:09:15these folks. I represented a strict and is more a marginal swing

0:09:15 > 0:09:22district can go either way, in districts like mine is easier to

0:09:22 > 0:09:25support consensus agreements, but for a lot of members there is no

0:09:25 > 0:09:28reward for that. They get accused of being surrender rose and sell-outs.

0:09:28 > 0:09:34How much of this is the battle that has been in the party for the soul

0:09:34 > 0:09:38of the party, between the moderate wing and the alt-right? Represented

0:09:38 > 0:09:46by Steve Bannon.Well, before Donald Trump we used to have a litmus test,

0:09:46 > 0:09:52a purity test in the Republican Party, who was pure enough? We used

0:09:52 > 0:09:55to have these self designated chiefs, the purity police who would

0:09:55 > 0:09:59judge you. I was always considered part of the pragmatic wing, so we

0:09:59 > 0:10:03had a battle between the purists and pragmatists. Then along comes Donald

0:10:03 > 0:10:08Trump who is not ideological doctrinaire, he's not a purist, said

0:10:08 > 0:10:12other litmus test has become loyalty to the president. That is really

0:10:12 > 0:10:15confounding to all those previous chiefs of the purity police. We are

0:10:15 > 0:10:22in an odd spot now, where we have this new dynamic that is frankly a

0:10:22 > 0:10:29bit puzzling to me. It's a bit confounding.Charlie dance, thank

0:10:29 > 0:10:34you for joining us. Good luck in your future endeavours. It's

0:10:34 > 0:10:42fascinating. Republicans control three branches of government yet

0:10:42 > 0:10:45listening to Charlie there, he joked about purists versus pragmatists,

0:10:45 > 0:10:49then you put Donald Trump on top, you sense there is a malaise that

0:10:49 > 0:10:54are set in within the GOP.The party is worried about these mid-term

0:10:54 > 0:10:58elections, they are worried that these Republican congressman who

0:10:58 > 0:11:03have decided not to run again, it's not just about members of the house

0:11:03 > 0:11:09who feel nervous about the future, it's also about voters, and those

0:11:09 > 0:11:11congressmen, people like Charlie Dent actually reflect a malaise

0:11:11 > 0:11:15among voters in the country. If those people do not turn up in the

0:11:15 > 0:11:20mid-term elections then as the congressman was suggesting, the

0:11:20 > 0:11:24party could be in foray hurricane, November. If you are a moderate in

0:11:24 > 0:11:28this country and you would like more cooperation between Republicans and

0:11:28 > 0:11:31Democrats then exactly the kind of person you would want to have an

0:11:31 > 0:11:35office is somebody like Congressman Charlie Dent, and losing him suggest

0:11:35 > 0:11:39the country will become more extreme and a lot less so. He is one of

0:11:39 > 0:11:44those rare centrists at the moment. -- not less so.

0:11:44 > 0:11:46A top Democrat has gone rogue on the Russia investigation.

0:11:46 > 0:11:48Dianne Feinstein, the senior Democrat on the Senate

0:11:48 > 0:11:49Judiciary Committee, has shocked Republicans

0:11:49 > 0:11:52by unilaterally making a key piece of testimony public.

0:11:52 > 0:11:56Ms Feinstein put the full transcript of the committee's interview

0:11:56 > 0:11:59with the head of Fusion GPS on her website.

0:11:59 > 0:12:01Fusion GPS is the firm that commissioned the now infamous

0:12:01 > 0:12:03dossier by former UK intelligence officer Christopher Steele that

0:12:03 > 0:12:08alleges collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow.

0:12:08 > 0:12:10The co-founder of Fusion GPS is Glenn Simpson who was interviewed

0:12:10 > 0:12:16for several hours by the Senate committee last year.

0:12:16 > 0:12:19In the transcript Mr Simpson says Mr Steele was concerned that

0:12:19 > 0:12:23Donald Trump could be blackmailed by Russia.

0:12:23 > 0:12:27Joining me is our North America reporter Anthony Zurcher.

0:12:27 > 0:12:30And before we start Anthony I want to ready you this tweet

0:12:30 > 0:12:36from the president this morning.

0:12:36 > 0:12:38"The fact that Sneaky Dianne Feinstein, who has on numerous

0:12:38 > 0:12:40occasions stated that collusion between Trump/Russia has not been

0:12:40 > 0:12:43found, would release testimony in such an underhanded and possibly

0:12:43 > 0:12:44illegal way, totally without authorization, is a disgrace.

0:12:44 > 0:12:48Must have tough Primary!"

0:12:54 > 0:12:58That's a reference to her running again. The president clearly not

0:12:58 > 0:13:03happy. I imagine Dianne Feinstein's Republican colleagues also not happy

0:13:03 > 0:13:07about this decision, to go out with this testimony.And Dianne Feinstein

0:13:07 > 0:13:10was one of the people at that meeting that Christian mentioned

0:13:10 > 0:13:14yesterday, an immigration where they are all fairly friendly, convivial

0:13:14 > 0:13:15type

0:13:17 > 0:13:22then she releases this transcript. I think they wanted to get the full

0:13:22 > 0:13:26record out because leaks had been coming out from this testimony,

0:13:26 > 0:13:32characterised to undermined Christian steel's dossier. Last week

0:13:32 > 0:13:36we saw the committee chair recommends the Justice Department

0:13:36 > 0:13:42investigate Christopher Steele for lying to the FBI, so it seems lines

0:13:42 > 0:13:48are being drawn here.What I wonder is where this leaves the state of

0:13:48 > 0:13:51those Congressional enquiries on to the issue of collusion between

0:13:51 > 0:13:54Russia and possibly the Trump campaign. You have very different

0:13:54 > 0:13:59investigations going on on two of those now you have Democrats and

0:13:59 > 0:14:03Republicans totally at odds and I can't believe those investigations

0:14:03 > 0:14:06are actually functioning. That is one Senate committee that is

0:14:06 > 0:14:11actually managing to work. The house intelligence committee totally

0:14:11 > 0:14:20deadlocked, the Senate intelligence committee shows signs of the

0:14:20 > 0:14:24Republican, the only one that is functioning. Neymar Donald Trump

0:14:24 > 0:14:28talking about our Republicans had to take control on this.We have him

0:14:28 > 0:14:33shouting out to the public that Republicans need to clamp down on

0:14:33 > 0:14:40the investigation, and do away with the witchhunt.It's interesting,

0:14:40 > 0:14:42Senator Chris Coombes saying yesterday there are at an impasse on

0:14:42 > 0:14:46this particular committee and can't see eye to eye. What you see in the

0:14:46 > 0:14:50first quarter of this dossier is that Republicans are tilting

0:14:50 > 0:14:53towards, how did you come up with this information, do you work for

0:14:53 > 0:14:58the Russians? Rather than what did you find out, it's quite insightful.

0:14:58 > 0:15:03The thing that strikes me, Anthony, is just how easy it was, seemingly,

0:15:03 > 0:15:09for Glenn Simpson to find out about Trump's connections to the Mafia.

0:15:09 > 0:15:13Let's look at an extract from the dossier. He says in the book first

0:15:13 > 0:15:18weekend I started boning up on Donald Trump I was able to find

0:15:18 > 0:15:20connections to Italian organised crime and later to a Russian

0:15:20 > 0:15:30organised crime figure.We sort of saw an explanation for opposition

0:15:30 > 0:15:34research, when the first thing he did was order a bunch of books on

0:15:34 > 0:15:37Donald Trump, there's been a lot of investigation into his business

0:15:37 > 0:15:41record that is out there. When Christopher steel went to Russia, he

0:15:41 > 0:15:45started contacting his people there. He said there were very cooperative,

0:15:45 > 0:15:50very open about their dealings with Donald Trump. You must remember the

0:15:50 > 0:15:55context, back in mid-2016, before Russian ties became a hot button

0:15:55 > 0:15:58political issue, they seemed more willing to talk according to

0:15:58 > 0:16:02Simpson, later on, that was when his sources started to climb up because

0:16:02 > 0:16:07they started to feel the heat.Thank you very much for joining us.

0:16:07 > 0:16:13Interesting also that as you pointed out earlier, Steel is saying them,

0:16:13 > 0:16:18Simpson is saying the FBI was investigating this anyway.That will

0:16:18 > 0:16:21really anger the Democrats. Maybe that is why they find Sun has

0:16:21 > 0:16:26released this. What they are saying if this was not the dossier which

0:16:26 > 0:16:29led to special counsel investigation. The FBI were already

0:16:29 > 0:16:34investigating the Russian links as far back as June 20 16. Harry Reid

0:16:34 > 0:16:39who was leading the Democrats in the Senate at the time wrote to James

0:16:39 > 0:16:41Comey and asked if he was investigating Donald Trump, the New

0:16:41 > 0:16:45York Times said there was not, now we find out the FBI were

0:16:45 > 0:16:50investigating Donald Trump as far back as June without the dossier and

0:16:50 > 0:16:54so the question is, why do they talk about Clinton's investigation, into

0:16:54 > 0:17:00the e-mails, and you did not talk about Donald Trump?As you say, that

0:17:00 > 0:17:03will not endear them to the Republicans.

0:17:03 > 0:17:06Most people dream of lots of snow when they go skiing -

0:17:06 > 0:17:07but not this much.

0:17:07 > 0:17:10Thousands of tourists are stranded after heavy snow in the Alps cut

0:17:10 > 0:17:12off towns and villages across Switzerland,

0:17:12 > 0:17:13France and Italy.

0:17:13 > 0:17:15Visitors were even being airlifted out of one of the most

0:17:15 > 0:17:17popular Swiss ski resorts, Zermatt.

0:17:17 > 0:17:19The avalanche risk in the area is the highest it's been

0:17:19 > 0:17:22for almost ten years.

0:17:22 > 0:17:24Tom Burridge reports.

0:17:24 > 0:17:27This is the only way out of Zermatt this morning.

0:17:27 > 0:17:36The luggage of tourists stuck here airlifted out.

0:17:36 > 0:17:38Heavy snow has closed all the roads.

0:17:38 > 0:17:43So those who can catch this shuttle service to a nearby town.

0:17:43 > 0:17:47Waiting on that helipad this lunchtime, Rebecca Smith.

0:17:47 > 0:17:51These are people waiting for the next helicopter out.

0:17:51 > 0:17:54We spoke as she began the first leg of a long

0:17:54 > 0:17:57journey back to Manchester.

0:17:57 > 0:18:00A lot of people will say you are stuck in

0:18:00 > 0:18:02somewhere beautiful, you can go skiing but

0:18:02 > 0:18:04that is not the case, you are stuck in a hotel room

0:18:04 > 0:18:10because of the risk of avalanche.

0:18:10 > 0:18:12So this morning, helicopters were also busy

0:18:12 > 0:18:15clearing avalanches.

0:18:15 > 0:18:18Blowing huge quantities of snow off the

0:18:18 > 0:18:22mountains, which has fallen in recent days.

0:18:22 > 0:18:27In remote areas, one metre of snow fell in just 24 hours.

0:18:27 > 0:18:30And although conditions in Zermatt have improved this morning, the risk

0:18:30 > 0:18:36of avalanche in the area remains high.

0:18:37 > 0:18:40A Swiss company captured this avalanche just outside the town

0:18:40 > 0:18:43last week.

0:18:43 > 0:18:48The deadly force abundantly clear.

0:18:50 > 0:18:55And this was the scene after a recent avalanche in a French town.

0:18:55 > 0:19:02Further south in the resort of Tignes, cafes hidden by the snow.

0:19:02 > 0:19:05It was here that John Bromell from Lincolnshire was snowboarding in

0:19:05 > 0:19:08poor weather on Sunday.

0:19:08 > 0:19:11In Zermatt, the operation to get tourists out on helicopters

0:19:11 > 0:19:12continues.

0:19:12 > 0:19:14Looking forward to getting back down the mountain.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16We live in Australia and we will miss

0:19:16 > 0:19:18the flight from Zurich so we're happy to leave now.

0:19:18 > 0:19:20Heavy snow this winter has made many peoples skiing

0:19:20 > 0:19:23holidays but with some slopes here now closed, too much is causing

0:19:23 > 0:19:33problems and treacherous conditions.

0:19:35 > 0:19:37Steve Bannon's inflated sense of self importance

0:19:37 > 0:19:39couldn't save his job - either at the White House

0:19:40 > 0:19:41or at Breitbart news.

0:19:41 > 0:19:43He was ousted yesterday as head of the conservative website.

0:19:43 > 0:19:46It was spectacular fall from grace for the man who styled

0:19:46 > 0:19:47himself as the architect of Donald Trump's

0:19:47 > 0:19:49extraordinary victory.

0:19:49 > 0:19:50Mr Bannon's statements in the book

0:19:50 > 0:19:52Fire And Fury were the last straw.

0:19:52 > 0:19:54The influential funders of Breitbart pulled their support.

0:19:54 > 0:19:57Now the question is what happens to the populist movement he championed?

0:19:57 > 0:19:59Joshua Green chronicled the relationship between Bannon

0:19:59 > 0:20:02and Trump in his book The Devil's Bargain

0:20:02 > 0:20:10and he joins us now.

0:20:10 > 0:20:15Thanks for coming in. What was Steve Bannon thinking? Did he really think

0:20:15 > 0:20:19you could get away with saying to a reporter the kinds of things you

0:20:19 > 0:20:24said about Donald Trump and his family and keep his bosses support?

0:20:24 > 0:20:27He did, because Bannon really believe that Trump's and action was

0:20:27 > 0:20:34the culmination of a set of forces that existed independent of Trump.

0:20:34 > 0:20:39-- Trump's election. He thought he and not Trump was the true channel

0:20:39 > 0:20:45of those forces, that recognised himself in a movement where he was

0:20:45 > 0:20:49the intellectual architect. We have now learned to buy civilly that

0:20:49 > 0:20:53voters support Trump and not Bannon and he hears, fallen all the way

0:20:53 > 0:20:58from the pinnacle of power.Knowing the two men and having reported on

0:20:58 > 0:21:01both of them as you have, what do you think it was specifically the

0:21:01 > 0:21:06Donald Trump that was really the last straw?For Trump, I think it

0:21:06 > 0:21:11was a man taking credit for his success. There have been news

0:21:11 > 0:21:15reports to the effect that Trump was upset about what Bannon had said

0:21:15 > 0:21:18about his family, about these potentially treasonous Russian

0:21:18 > 0:21:23meetings, that was Bannon's quote, but I think what it really was was

0:21:23 > 0:21:26Trump for Bannon was taking something away from his presidential

0:21:26 > 0:21:29victory by claiming credit for it and it is something Donald Trump

0:21:29 > 0:21:34simply will not abide.That goes back a while. We have seated on the

0:21:34 > 0:21:37Saturday Night Live sketches where Steve Bannon was the real president

0:21:37 > 0:21:41and Trump was made to sit at the tiny table. What happens now to

0:21:41 > 0:21:46Steve Bannon? Is that it?I know Bannon would like to remain relevant

0:21:46 > 0:21:50and politics going forward, he still believes he is an influential

0:21:50 > 0:21:53figure, but without the platform of Breitbart news and a serious radio

0:21:53 > 0:21:57show, both of which he has lost, it's not clear what the venue for

0:21:57 > 0:22:02him to get his message out would be. They put out a string of

0:22:02 > 0:22:04administration and thistles on Sunday saying this as a whole load

0:22:04 > 0:22:09of trash, Fire And Fury, but if you annihilate Steve Bannon, bury him in

0:22:09 > 0:22:12the way you have, don't you tacitly acknowledge that what he said is

0:22:12 > 0:22:19true?It's difficult to come out and call the book fake news, as

0:22:19 > 0:22:22President Trump has, and then go out and attacked one of the main sources

0:22:22 > 0:22:27of that book. I know from my own reporting with Bannon and other

0:22:27 > 0:22:31senior officials that the port represented it Michael Wolff's book

0:22:31 > 0:22:38is essentially the correct one, that Trump is a unfocused president, and

0:22:38 > 0:22:44the Wesselingh is really in chaos most of the time. I think the

0:22:44 > 0:22:48problem for Bannon is that Trump went to people and said listen, it's

0:22:48 > 0:22:53time for you to choose, you are with me or him. -- the White House is in

0:22:53 > 0:22:59chaos. If you are with me, I want to cut ties with Bannon and bury him

0:22:59 > 0:23:03and that's precisely what White House officials have been doing.

0:23:03 > 0:23:06Donald Trump has put a lot of money in Michael Wolff's pocket but he

0:23:06 > 0:23:09clearly does not like the book. He has been talking about libel laws

0:23:09 > 0:23:15today.If somebody says something that is totally and knowingly false,

0:23:15 > 0:23:19that the person that has been abused, the famed, liable to have

0:23:19 > 0:23:25meaningful recourse. Our current libel laws are a sham. And a

0:23:25 > 0:23:31disgrace, and do not represent American values or American

0:23:31 > 0:23:36fairness, so we are going to take a strong look at that.Is this the man

0:23:36 > 0:23:40who accused Ted Cruz's father of being involved in the JFK shooting?

0:23:40 > 0:23:44Or said President Obama was not born in the US? Are we talking about the

0:23:44 > 0:23:51same man?!We are, we are also talking about an empty threat.

0:23:51 > 0:23:55Donald Trump is not going to sue Michael Wolff the deformation, and

0:23:55 > 0:23:59if you does he will sell another million bucks for the author. This

0:23:59 > 0:24:05is Trump's way of issuing response to something he does not like, to

0:24:05 > 0:24:09try to take control of the news cycle.I bet you slightly wish

0:24:09 > 0:24:13Donald Trump had taken on your book like this. Without not have done a

0:24:13 > 0:24:18great thing for you?He could have at least threatened a lawsuit,

0:24:18 > 0:24:21bright!

0:24:21 > 0:24:24One of the things that's interesting, people pointed out

0:24:24 > 0:24:26yesterday there was this extraordinary moment in which had

0:24:26 > 0:24:30Steve Bannon being ousted from Breitbart, the ultimate

0:24:30 > 0:24:35nationalists, populist, the guy who railed against illegal immigration,

0:24:35 > 0:24:39who wanted an American first agenda, on the same day that Donald Trump

0:24:39 > 0:24:43sits there with members of both parties, discusses the possibility

0:24:43 > 0:24:48of comprehensive immigration reform, and announces he is going to Davos.

0:24:48 > 0:24:52That place of the global elite. It has people here scratching their

0:24:52 > 0:24:55heads and wondering, is all that populism that Steve Bannon

0:24:55 > 0:24:59represented, the National is, is that God? Is this going to be the

0:24:59 > 0:25:07year of the globalist Donald Trump? He was the weather vein of the base.

0:25:07 > 0:25:10He kept on the straight and narrow as to what the alt-right thinking.

0:25:10 > 0:25:15Is that what John is thinking? I would not call the base the

0:25:15 > 0:25:19alt-right, I think those are different. But dating the base is

0:25:19 > 0:25:22very concerned about things like immigration. They do not want the

0:25:22 > 0:25:26president to row back on that. There are also supporters of Donald Trump

0:25:26 > 0:25:29who would still say Steve Bannon is very useful for being the base

0:25:29 > 0:25:33whisper and being in touch with the base, and can you really alienate

0:25:33 > 0:25:37him totally? Who knows, Steve Bannon may be back, that's the way this

0:25:37 > 0:25:39president tends to work.

0:25:39 > 0:25:41This is Beyond 100 Days from the BBC.

0:25:41 > 0:25:44Coming up for viewers on the BBC News Channel and BBC World News -

0:25:44 > 0:25:47the 100 women saying NOT US to the ME TOO campaign -

0:25:47 > 0:25:49and the famous French actress who thinks 'pestering men' aren't

0:25:49 > 0:25:52a problem - we'll be asking why.

0:25:52 > 0:25:54And translating Trump - we go to cities around the world

0:25:54 > 0:25:57to ask what they think of the American president -

0:25:57 > 0:25:59is he just as divisive outside of the US?

0:25:59 > 0:26:01We'll be finding out.

0:26:12 > 0:26:15Quite a quiet spell of weather across the British Isles for the

0:26:15 > 0:26:20next few days but not without its own problems. First an old weather

0:26:20 > 0:26:24front lurches with intent across the East, producing rain not just in

0:26:24 > 0:26:30Ipswich, it has to be said. Further west, the fog in some spots never

0:26:30 > 0:26:34really cleared for the greater part of the day. Any good news? Yes there

0:26:34 > 0:26:38was, an awful lot more sunshine around in the south and central

0:26:38 > 0:26:45parts. Those clear skies by date, no great problems, clear skies by

0:26:45 > 0:26:55night, we may end up with a widespread fog problem. Some low

0:26:55 > 0:26:59cloud lurking close by to East Anglia, and the south-east from that

0:26:59 > 0:27:04weather front, good in its own right produce hill fog. First up for the

0:27:04 > 0:27:09new day on Thursday, fog patches, some are really quite dense. Could

0:27:09 > 0:27:13be a real issue if you are on the move first thing. Quite a chilly

0:27:13 > 0:27:16start I would have thought, a touch of frost perhaps across parts of

0:27:16 > 0:27:22Scotland, and here in south-western parts we may see that chance of fog.

0:27:22 > 0:27:25So too through the western side of the Pennines, Wales and West

0:27:25 > 0:27:33Midlands. Out east, the old weather front will be speeding in as it

0:27:33 > 0:27:37forms an area of low pressure close by to the south-eastern quarter of

0:27:37 > 0:27:40the British Isles, some low cloud that will produce hill fog and

0:27:40 > 0:27:44really one of those days. That cloud will be thick enough for there to be

0:27:44 > 0:27:48bits and pieces of rain and drizzle on offer throughout the day in East

0:27:48 > 0:27:53Anglia and the south-east. The odd bit MPs in the North York Moors. The

0:27:53 > 0:27:59best of the sunshine away to the western side of Scotland, down

0:27:59 > 0:28:03through Wales interview south-west of England. If fog lingers, it may

0:28:03 > 0:28:08well be your figures are well down into those single figures. Not a

0:28:08 > 0:28:12particularly warm start to the new day on Friday, again that

0:28:12 > 0:28:17combination of cloud and fog that causes us a bit of concern. Friday a

0:28:17 > 0:28:20quiet day, first signs of a weather front trying to work in toward the

0:28:20 > 0:28:25British Isles. Even as we get as far ahead as the weekend, you see it

0:28:25 > 0:28:30runs into this area of high pressure across western Russia, making the

0:28:30 > 0:28:34progress of that front very slow indeed.

0:30:09 > 0:30:12This is Beyond One Hundred Days, with me Katty Kay in Washington -

0:30:12 > 0:30:13Christian Fraser's in London.

0:30:13 > 0:30:14Our top stories:

0:30:14 > 0:30:1715 people are now known to have died in a series

0:30:17 > 0:30:19of mudslides near Los Angeles - emergency teams are still

0:30:19 > 0:30:21digging into debris.

0:30:21 > 0:30:23And in the European Alps, heavy snow leaves thousands

0:30:23 > 0:30:27of tourists stranded - some needed to be airlifted out.

0:30:27 > 0:30:30Coming up in the next half hour:

0:30:30 > 0:30:33One of France's best-known actresses is among a hundred women to sign

0:30:33 > 0:30:36an open letter warning of a new puritanism after recent

0:30:36 > 0:30:42sexual harassment scandals.

0:30:42 > 0:30:45And a whale of a tale - the humpback that took

0:30:45 > 0:30:48a woman under its fin - saving her from a tiger shark.

0:30:48 > 0:30:51Let us know your thoughts by using the hashtag

0:30:51 > 0:31:01'Beyond-One-Hundred-Days'

0:31:02 > 0:31:04One hundred well-known French women have signed an open letter

0:31:04 > 0:31:08defending the right of men to flirt with women.

0:31:08 > 0:31:13Actress Catherine Deneuve is one of the signatories who says

0:31:13 > 0:31:14the recent campaigns against sexual harassment are creating

0:31:15 > 0:31:18a new wave of puritanism.

0:31:18 > 0:31:20The open letter published in Le Monde, says: "Men have

0:31:20 > 0:31:22been punished summarily, forced out of their jobs

0:31:22 > 0:31:24when all they did was touch someone's knee

0:31:24 > 0:31:27or try to steal a kiss."

0:31:27 > 0:31:32It went on to say: "Rape is a crime, but trying to seduce someone,

0:31:32 > 0:31:35even persistently or clumsily, is not - and nor is men being

0:31:35 > 0:31:38gentlemanly a chauvinist attack."

0:31:38 > 0:31:41We can speak to Sonia Bogdanosky who's one of the women who signed

0:31:41 > 0:31:43the letter in Le Monde.

0:31:43 > 0:31:49She is a film editor and joins us from Paris.

0:31:49 > 0:31:58I noticed, I hope you don't mind me saying, a lot of signatories were of

0:31:58 > 0:32:01an older generation, who might be satisfied with the sexual freedoms

0:32:01 > 0:32:05they won in the 60s, but your critics would say that the battle is

0:32:05 > 0:32:13hardly won.I would say it's not something about sexual liberty. It

0:32:13 > 0:32:21is more... It is some sort of woman and about the way we can answer to

0:32:21 > 0:32:26things that are not crime. We say rape is a crime, but a lot of things

0:32:26 > 0:32:33are not a crime and we are not only victims. It is not about so much

0:32:33 > 0:32:42sexual liberty, but the fact that we can choose only be seen as victims,

0:32:42 > 0:32:47we can answer to this fact has happened. I have to say that I'm not

0:32:47 > 0:32:54a nonperson, I'm not a celebrity, I'm not Catherine Deneuve. A lot of

0:32:54 > 0:32:59young people signed the letter. A lot of unknown persons signed the

0:32:59 > 0:33:03letter. It is not just one generation.Speaking as a man,

0:33:03 > 0:33:12doesn't it come down to context, if you hold a position of hower power

0:33:12 > 0:33:16over a woman you have to be more careful about how you approach

0:33:16 > 0:33:20someone, can it be considered aggressive or threatening and if it

0:33:20 > 0:33:28can, you shouldn't do it. It is the context isn't it?It is the context,

0:33:28 > 0:33:34but Texn't is not talking about what happens in work. The work place is

0:33:34 > 0:33:40something special where people have power and the text is more talking

0:33:40 > 0:33:46about what happens in the metro, in the street, between people who have

0:33:46 > 0:33:52not power relations. And in the metro I don't feel I have got more

0:33:52 > 0:33:58or less power than the man who will be annoying me. So yes I'm not a

0:33:58 > 0:34:04man, I can't judge as a man. But it is normal for me.If you were felt

0:34:04 > 0:34:11up in the metro, you would say stop and be angered by that?Yes. But I

0:34:11 > 0:34:14wouldn't feel necessarily humiliated, I wouldn't feel I would

0:34:14 > 0:34:22be a victim. The first time I was conscious of that, I wasn't in the

0:34:22 > 0:34:26metro, I was young and there was a guy, he was drunk and he had a

0:34:26 > 0:34:39bottle and he put the bottle on his penis and his put the bottle near

0:34:39 > 0:34:47the face of a woman and the woman slapped the the bottle and said, now

0:34:47 > 0:34:54you stop this. If I wouldn't be this woman I would be totally scared and

0:34:54 > 0:35:02shocked and I thought, oh, but can I be something more than a victim.I

0:35:02 > 0:35:10don't really understand Sonia what this let letter is about and if it

0:35:10 > 0:35:16is no about the work place and all the people we have seen they have

0:35:16 > 0:35:21been sacked, because it because they abused their pow ever over a younger

0:35:21 > 0:35:25woman. I don't understand why a 25-year-old woman should have to put

0:35:25 > 0:35:29up with that. Don't you want a work environment where a 25-year-old

0:35:29 > 0:35:34woman can turn up for work and an older guy who wants to try a kiss,

0:35:34 > 0:35:42she shouldn't have to put up with that?I want to work normal with

0:35:42 > 0:35:52normal ways of dealing with people. But if you are to sue somebody, to

0:35:52 > 0:35:58denounce somebody if there is a problem at your work place, it has

0:35:58 > 0:36:05to be done in legal ways. That is what this text is also about. You

0:36:05 > 0:36:09can't just consider that a hashtag should solve the problem.But the

0:36:09 > 0:36:15people who have been fired have been fired following investigations and

0:36:15 > 0:36:19those organisations believed that the men behaved inappropriately. I

0:36:19 > 0:36:23imagine that you would want an environment in which it is safe for

0:36:23 > 0:36:27women to turn up to work and therefore organisations following an

0:36:27 > 0:36:31investigation get rid of those men who abuse their power.In France,

0:36:31 > 0:36:38there is at least one case that I have known about a man who was

0:36:38 > 0:36:44dismissed from his job and there was not, there was just... The complaint

0:36:44 > 0:36:51against him. There was not something legal and there was, well, it's more

0:36:51 > 0:36:56complicated, but that is not for me, the main point of this text. That is

0:36:56 > 0:37:01not the reason I signed this text. Thank you very much for being with

0:37:01 > 0:37:08us. I was reading a letter in the Times the other week, an article

0:37:08 > 0:37:12actually by Giles Coren, he said that after the hashtag Me Too

0:37:12 > 0:37:16campaign he had been writing to a colleague, something who offered him

0:37:16 > 0:37:20work and he didn't know this woman and wrote back said I would love to

0:37:20 > 0:37:25take on the work and then wrote, kiss, kiss, two crosses and he

0:37:25 > 0:37:28stopped before he sent it. He thought, I don't know is in woman,

0:37:28 > 0:37:33why am I sending the two kisses. So he is changing his behaviour and he

0:37:33 > 0:37:42said, is that a good thing, is it making me think about the way I

0:37:42 > 0:37:48approach woman or is the paranoia that men face.Perhaps we need an

0:37:48 > 0:37:54open and difficult conversation about this, is it, why should he put

0:37:54 > 0:37:59kisses, he wouldn't be giving her kisses? If it is a purely

0:37:59 > 0:38:06professional situation.You wouldn't do it with your Ed toer.-- editor.

0:38:06 > 0:38:11Always does it make the person who is on the receiving end of this feel

0:38:11 > 0:38:18uncomfortable. I'm 53, it doesn't happen to me, but when I was in my

0:38:18 > 0:38:2420s, routinely older men in positions of power would hit on he.

0:38:24 > 0:38:28It happens to all the women I know. Why should young women have to be in

0:38:28 > 0:38:33that situation. If we have go over board in one area where men don't

0:38:33 > 0:38:39feel they can put XX on an e-mail, maybe that is no bad thing.I'm in

0:38:39 > 0:38:47my 40s, they don't hit on me any more either. Right.

0:38:47 > 0:38:49Donald Trump's supporters give the President a lot of latitude.

0:38:49 > 0:38:52But one area they are very wedded too is clamping down

0:38:52 > 0:38:53on illegal immigration.

0:38:53 > 0:38:56So when Mr Trump yesterday suggested he would support giving illegal

0:38:56 > 0:38:58immigrants a path to US citizenship - there were cries of

0:38:58 > 0:38:59outrage from his base.

0:38:59 > 0:39:02One ardent conservative supporter tweeted that Mr Trump would lose

0:39:02 > 0:39:05a lot of support if he went ahead with a more liberal

0:39:05 > 0:39:06approach to immigration.

0:39:06 > 0:39:10The issue is pressing because the President is trying

0:39:10 > 0:39:12to do a deal with Democrats on children brought here

0:39:12 > 0:39:15illegally by their parents - the programme known as DACA.

0:39:15 > 0:39:17Let's speak to Alan Gomez - an Immigration reporter for USA

0:39:17 > 0:39:22Today and joins us from Miami.

0:39:22 > 0:39:26You listened to the president's comments with those democrats and

0:39:26 > 0:39:32Republicans yesterday, where does the president stand on immigration?

0:39:32 > 0:39:36That is a good question. If everything we heard from the meeting

0:39:36 > 0:39:44yesterday, he seemed very open to providing a path to legalisation for

0:39:44 > 0:39:49these 800,000 young undocumented immigrants, referred to as Dreamers,

0:39:49 > 0:39:55he said he is open to providing a path to legalisation for all 12

0:39:55 > 0:39:59million undocumented immigrants. But the president has gone in a few

0:39:59 > 0:40:02different directions when talking about immigration throughout the

0:40:02 > 0:40:05campaign he got very hardline and promised there would be no amnesty

0:40:05 > 0:40:12and they would have go back home. But once he came into office he did

0:40:12 > 0:40:15eliminate the programme that protects those people but urged

0:40:15 > 0:40:19congress to pass a solution to give them a perm Nantes home in the

0:40:19 > 0:40:24United States -- permanent home in the United States and he was open to

0:40:24 > 0:40:28a more broad legalisation. He was leaving the details to congress.It

0:40:28 > 0:40:31is interesting, I covered the election as I travelled around,

0:40:31 > 0:40:35there were some issues that supporters of Donald Trump kept

0:40:35 > 0:40:40coming back to and immigration is one. I think that many of Trump's

0:40:40 > 0:40:43supporters may accept there has to be something done about these young

0:40:43 > 0:40:47people brought to America by their parents illegally. I don't think

0:40:47 > 0:40:53they would accept a comprehensive reform to give 12 people here a pass

0:40:53 > 0:40:58to citizenship. I don't see that flying with his base, do you?I

0:40:58 > 0:41:03think you're assessment is perfect. These 800,000 young people are a

0:41:03 > 0:41:07different group. Even anti-immigration groups, some of the

0:41:07 > 0:41:11groups who have long fought for anything they describe as amnesty

0:41:11 > 0:41:15have said they're different and they didn't make the decision to come to

0:41:15 > 0:41:19the United States and they have been educated here and assimilated to the

0:41:19 > 0:41:26country. A lot don't even speak Spanish. And they make the argue m

0:41:26 > 0:41:33that we will make exception in one case in exchange for more border

0:41:33 > 0:41:37security and more interior enforcement. But if he talks about a

0:41:37 > 0:41:41path to citizen ship for 11 undocumented immigrants, that will

0:41:41 > 0:41:45be different and his base would blow up and say he lied on the campaign

0:41:45 > 0:41:51and is going back on one of his central promises.Big thing left

0:41:51 > 0:41:58nowhere despite is in 50 minute round table, whether you do

0:41:58 > 0:42:03something on it. Here is the moment it was suggested they could do DACA

0:42:03 > 0:42:11in isolation.What about a clean DACA bill with a commitment we go

0:42:11 > 0:42:16into a comprehensive immigration reform like we did back when Kennedy

0:42:16 > 0:42:23was here.I think that is what Dick is saying we will do DACA and then

0:42:23 > 0:42:31start on phase two. That would be would be comprehensive. A loft o'

0:42:31 > 0:42:42people would like to see that.You need to be clear. What the Senator

0:42:42 > 0:42:46is asking, you have to be security. I think that what is you said.I

0:42:46 > 0:42:52think you said something different. The transcript of that didn't appear

0:42:52 > 0:42:56in the official transcript. Here the tweet that Donald Trump sent out

0:42:56 > 0:42:58after:

0:43:03 > 0:43:09Are the Republicans going to let him get away with doing DACA without

0:43:09 > 0:43:15putting the sprinkles on the top?No the congress would not go along with

0:43:15 > 0:43:22a bill that only allows legalisation of the dreamers. It is what you get

0:43:22 > 0:43:32in return. That is what they will be negotiating, as we approach the

0:43:32 > 0:43:37deadline for DACA ending. At first the White House put a list of thing

0:43:37 > 0:43:42they need, the worder wall and more agents and an end to chain migration

0:43:42 > 0:43:47and the end of the visa lottery and crackdown on sanctuary cities. And

0:43:47 > 0:43:51at the end of the meeting yesterday after they closed the doors and the

0:43:51 > 0:43:59press was kicked out, they did zero in on a few points, DACA in exchange

0:43:59 > 0:44:04or the end of visa lottery. But what border security means, that is what

0:44:04 > 0:44:07we are all going to be looking for and what will determine whether

0:44:07 > 0:44:11Democrats go along and President Trump ends up signing the bill.

0:44:11 > 0:44:23Thank you very much. From a very sunny Miami. I like you had the two

0:44:23 > 0:44:30elder guys explaining to the female Senator what she was saying!

0:44:30 > 0:44:33Donald Trump's first year in the White House has been followed

0:44:33 > 0:44:34closely around the world.

0:44:34 > 0:44:37We asked people on the streets of seven cities around the world

0:44:37 > 0:44:38what they made of the President so far.

0:45:06 > 0:45:12He is a good leader.He don't represent ladies or anybody.

0:45:14 > 0:45:21He is good at distracting people.He has started straight.All his deeds

0:45:21 > 0:45:24are negative and reflecting bad images. For the Americans

0:45:24 > 0:45:29themselves.He is a man of his words.

0:45:33 > 0:45:36I think he is very good.

0:45:39 > 0:45:45He backed out of Paris treaty.The policy against Paris agreement one

0:45:45 > 0:45:48of worst decisions of the year.

0:45:49 > 0:45:54In the start when he was the president for the United States, he

0:45:54 > 0:46:00was talking about to make the peace in the Middle East.He has

0:46:00 > 0:46:06recognised Jerusalem as our natural capital.Recognises Jerusalem as the

0:46:06 > 0:46:14capital of Israel was his worst decision ever.Jews are trying to

0:46:14 > 0:46:18get into America and it is more difficult now.The immigration

0:46:18 > 0:46:25attitude he has towards foreigners can be negative in the future.

0:46:39 > 0:46:43They voted for him, they get what they asked for.

0:46:50 > 0:47:05Donald Trump one year on, the global view. This is beyond 100 days.

0:47:05 > 0:47:06Still to come - glass ceilings exist, even

0:47:06 > 0:47:09for former prime ministers - we speak to New Zealand's Helen

0:47:09 > 0:47:12Clark about her time at the UN, and her global fight

0:47:12 > 0:47:13against drug abuse.

0:47:13 > 0:47:15The trial of the former football coach Barry Bennell on charges

0:47:15 > 0:47:20of child sexual offences has heard from an alleged victim.

0:47:20 > 0:47:23Barry Bennell, who's now known as Richard Jones, denies 48 charges

0:47:23 > 0:47:24of child sexual abuse.

0:47:24 > 0:47:25Dan Roan reports.

0:47:25 > 0:47:29Back in the 1980s, Barry Bennell worked with some of the most

0:47:29 > 0:47:30promising young footballers in the north-west of England.

0:47:30 > 0:47:32Youth team coach at Crewe Alexandra.

0:47:32 > 0:47:39He also had links with Manchester City.

0:47:39 > 0:47:42Liverpool Crown Court was told the 64-year-old, who now causes of

0:47:42 > 0:47:44Richard Jones, exploited young boys dreams of

0:47:44 > 0:47:45becoming footballers in

0:47:45 > 0:47:46order to sexually abuse them.

0:47:46 > 0:47:55With Bennell watching on via video link,

0:47:55 > 0:47:57the jury was shown footage of the first complainant's interview.

0:47:57 > 0:48:00He first met him when he came as a scout for

0:48:00 > 0:48:01Manchester City.

0:48:01 > 0:48:03The alleged victim said he was abused up to 100 times

0:48:03 > 0:48:05along with other boys by Bennell at his home

0:48:05 > 0:48:07and in a shop he owned in

0:48:07 > 0:48:10Derbyshire village.

0:48:10 > 0:48:13He had up to three boys share a bed with him.

0:48:13 > 0:48:15The said none dare speak out for fear of

0:48:15 > 0:48:15jeopardising their football prospects.

0:48:22 > 0:48:27The court was shown a recording of this BBC

0:48:27 > 0:48:29programme from November 2016 featuring other alleged victims

0:48:29 > 0:48:32which the complainant said left him in complete meltdown, prompting him

0:48:32 > 0:48:37to contact police for the first time.

0:48:37 > 0:48:40Appearing behind a screen in court he was cross examined by the

0:48:40 > 0:48:43defence, and asked if his complaint was financially motivated.

0:48:43 > 0:48:47I am not in it for the money, he said.

0:48:47 > 0:48:49The court was read transcripts from Bennell's interview with the police.

0:48:49 > 0:48:53He said he has had no sexual contact with him

0:48:53 > 0:48:59and remembered thinking he

0:48:59 > 0:49:03was the one that got away with it he was not one of my victims.

0:49:03 > 0:49:04It is impossible.

0:49:04 > 0:49:11The trial continues.

0:49:21 > 0:49:23You're watching Beyond One Hundred Days -

0:49:23 > 0:49:26every 25 minutes here in America, a baby is born addicted to opioids.

0:49:26 > 0:49:29The scale of both use and abuse of the drugs in the United States

0:49:29 > 0:49:31is hard to overstate.

0:49:31 > 0:49:33The UK too has an increasingly urgent problem with drug overdoses

0:49:33 > 0:49:36hitting record levels in England and Wales, last year.

0:49:36 > 0:49:39And so it was with the scale of the global crisis in mind,

0:49:39 > 0:49:42that our next guest took up her new post as Commissioner

0:49:42 > 0:49:48with the Global Commission on Drug Policy.

0:49:48 > 0:49:51Helen Clark has also served as the Prime Minister of New Zealand

0:49:51 > 0:49:53and as the head of the UN's Development Programme.

0:49:53 > 0:49:55And she joins us in the studio now.

0:49:55 > 0:50:02I want to talk about your old job in development. Development funding is

0:50:02 > 0:50:08not very trendy now, there are governments slashing budgets, what

0:50:08 > 0:50:13effect does that have?It has a big effect. Particularly on the poor but

0:50:13 > 0:50:19stable countries, but not only has the amount of the development

0:50:19 > 0:50:25assistance plateaued give or take, but much more of it is going into

0:50:25 > 0:50:30the crisis end, the people fleeing conflict and subject to horrific

0:50:30 > 0:50:34disaster. The amount that is there for the poor but stable who need the

0:50:34 > 0:50:38hand up is not as good.So much conflict around the world at the

0:50:38 > 0:50:43moment, I was watching a densely detailed documentary on the BBC the

0:50:43 > 0:50:50House of Saud that talked of the funding for arms and the amount that

0:50:50 > 0:50:55is poured in, millions by the House of Saud. Imagine if just a fraction

0:50:55 > 0:51:01of that had gone to development.Oh sure, if we could take what was

0:51:01 > 0:51:06spent on militaries and put it into peaceful development, the world

0:51:06 > 0:51:10would be a transformed and more peaceful place.Would it be

0:51:10 > 0:51:14transformed in the sense when you have gulfs between various

0:51:14 > 0:51:19countries, between Europe and the west and Africa, you pay in the long

0:51:19 > 0:51:23run, because you get such huge population movements?Yes if you

0:51:23 > 0:51:34look at the movement out of sub-Saha ran Africa, that comes from the

0:51:34 > 0:51:41economic problems. These people are young guys who want to work.To stop

0:51:41 > 0:51:44that, Europe and America should change its attitude to Africa and

0:51:44 > 0:51:50get money in there to stop the flow? Absolutely it is about a Marshall

0:51:50 > 0:51:53plan for Africa, that wants investment and opportunities to

0:51:53 > 0:51:59employ its people. With that you would pretty much curb the flow. As

0:51:59 > 0:52:03long as there isn't opportunity, people will seek it where it is.

0:52:03 > 0:52:10That is the history of people. My forebearers came from this set of

0:52:10 > 0:52:17islands.Not very trendy in America either.No, let me talk about you

0:52:17 > 0:52:21new job as hold of the global commission on drugs policy, the

0:52:21 > 0:52:29United States is in the grip of an opioid epidemic. You have advocated

0:52:29 > 0:52:38decriminalising, but a lot of the people who get hooked on opioids in

0:52:38 > 0:52:43the United States do so legally on pain killers. What do you do about

0:52:43 > 0:52:49that.I'm one of a range of commissioners, there is about 25 of

0:52:49 > 0:52:57us and lot are former heads of governments and I'm aware of the

0:52:57 > 0:53:02seriousness of the opioid crisis and it needs a wide range of responses.

0:53:02 > 0:53:06It needs substitution therapy as an option. In the United Kingdom itself

0:53:06 > 0:53:10there is a spike in deaths as well and there needs to be more harm

0:53:10 > 0:53:15reduction measures put in place. But the general position of commission

0:53:15 > 0:53:18which I've just joined but has been going for seven or eight years, that

0:53:18 > 0:53:24you need to move to a form of legal regulation. Because prohibition is a

0:53:24 > 0:53:27criminal's dream and raises the price and puts more people in

0:53:27 > 0:53:33danger.Do you think that drug companies in the United States are

0:53:33 > 0:53:38complicit in this opioid crisis the country is having, because they have

0:53:38 > 0:53:45pushed pain killers on to patients? I understand there has been

0:53:45 > 0:53:50incentives to doctors to prescribe these drugs more than best practice

0:53:50 > 0:53:56would suggest. But it is also true that a large amount of the problem

0:53:56 > 0:54:01comes not from those who have received the legal prescription, but

0:54:01 > 0:54:07from the diversion of the drugs prescribed into other hands. And

0:54:07 > 0:54:11there is rather loose regulation I think in the United States which has

0:54:11 > 0:54:17opened up this area of problem. Thank you very much for joining us.

0:54:17 > 0:54:24We are going to have more of this problem, opioid addiction is huge in

0:54:24 > 0:54:31the United States. Communities have been decimated by these pills.

0:54:31 > 0:54:34Something more cheerful.

0:54:34 > 0:54:37Now, a remarkable tail of a woman and a whale.

0:54:37 > 0:54:39Marine biologist Nan Hauser says a humpback whale

0:54:39 > 0:54:41protected her from a tiger shark during a research expedition

0:54:41 > 0:54:42in the Cook Islands.

0:54:42 > 0:54:45She says the humpback tucked her under its pectoral fin

0:54:45 > 0:54:46to keep her from harm.

0:54:46 > 0:54:48Here's Nan now describing what happened.

0:54:48 > 0:54:50There's a great big tiger shark over there.

0:54:50 > 0:54:52Oh.

0:54:52 > 0:54:59I was in the water and he approached me and he didn't stop.

0:54:59 > 0:55:03And he put me on his head.

0:55:03 > 0:55:09I kept trying to get away but for ten and a half minutes,

0:55:09 > 0:55:12he was tucking me under his pectoral fins and lifting me up out

0:55:12 > 0:55:16of the water and just rolling around with me on his body.

0:55:16 > 0:55:19I saw a whale in the distance that kept tail slapping

0:55:19 > 0:55:22but I still never put it together that there was a shark right there.

0:55:22 > 0:55:24Humpbacks are altruistic.

0:55:24 > 0:55:27They have this incredible behaviour where they will

0:55:27 > 0:55:32rush into a situation and save another species.

0:55:32 > 0:55:35I'm probably the first human on record that they've saved.

0:55:35 > 0:55:38Um, man, the whale.

0:55:38 > 0:55:42Literally there.

0:55:42 > 0:55:43Thank you.

0:55:43 > 0:55:44I love you too.

0:55:44 > 0:55:46I love you too, I do.

0:55:46 > 0:55:53I love you.

0:55:53 > 0:56:01Isn't that amazing?I would carry to save your life.Would you you? It is

0:56:01 > 0:56:05like snail and the whale that I read to my son. He loves that book. The

0:56:05 > 0:56:09sense that he is carrying her to safety. We like that story a lot.

0:56:09 > 0:56:21Yeah.Coming up next...Humpback whale altruism.Next on the BBC

0:56:21 > 0:56:24outside source. Now we will see you same time tomorrow. Thanks for

0:56:24 > 0:56:26watching. Goodbye.