:00:16. > :00:23.Plaid Cymru's Leanne Wood. This all takes place in the aftermath of
:00:24. > :00:27.Manchester, and Wales has not been immune from jihadi 's peak pull
:00:28. > :00:32.victims of jihadi attacks. Can I ask you what Plaid Cymru's messages to
:00:33. > :00:35.people thinking about how to vote and the security issue in
:00:36. > :00:41.particular, what is your message to them this morning? It makes no sense
:00:42. > :00:49.to us for those public services that rose to the challenge and supported
:00:50. > :00:54.so many people in Manchester, the health service, the emergency
:00:55. > :00:59.services, the police, obviously, for those to be cut. And just's police
:01:00. > :01:05.service has been putt and there are plans for more cut wood. It is all
:01:06. > :01:11.for what has happened. It is awful to see how you can prevent it in the
:01:12. > :01:16.future, but you can get people some more confidence by making there are
:01:17. > :01:20.plans in place and emergency services are properly resourced to
:01:21. > :01:24.deal with things. We would not need troops on the street if there were
:01:25. > :01:29.enough police officers on the streets. That is a very good answer
:01:30. > :01:36.about the aftermath, but what about catching people first? Plaid Cymru
:01:37. > :01:42.have voted again and again against a surveillance, surveillance. I do on
:01:43. > :01:46.the wrong side of this argument? We are against mass surveillance. We
:01:47. > :01:50.are in favour of more targeted surveillance. It makes sense that if
:01:51. > :01:56.people are under suspicion that the police need to keep an eye on them,
:01:57. > :02:01.so we support resources for that. The idea of watching everyone and
:02:02. > :02:06.being able to access everyone's e-mails and communications, that is
:02:07. > :02:11.where we have a problem and where our MPs have voted consistently,
:02:12. > :02:15.against this. This is the heart of the argument, because no one really
:02:16. > :02:19.thinks the police are going to look at all of our e-mails, survey
:02:20. > :02:23.everyone. They have got 23,000 suspected jihadi is in his country
:02:24. > :02:27.and they cannot deal with them, so this fantasy there will be mass
:02:28. > :02:31.surveillance of everyone, everyone is under threat and be watched by
:02:32. > :02:38.the big state if we allow these laws, it is ridiculous. If you look
:02:39. > :02:42.into surveillance, there is a very resource intensive activity. The
:02:43. > :02:47.police need to be adequately resourced to do it. It is better
:02:48. > :02:52.they watch the people most at risk and keep a close eye on those rather
:02:53. > :02:55.than the entire population. There is such a thing as information overload
:02:56. > :03:01.and it is better to concentrate resources. They never asked to look
:03:02. > :03:06.at the entire population. They know who they need to look at and they
:03:07. > :03:10.need the resources for that. After Manchester, people are thinking we
:03:11. > :03:14.need to think again about security. Are you in Plaid Cymru thinking
:03:15. > :03:20.about it again? You have to review security all the time. It is
:03:21. > :03:28.terrible that this has happened, but it is not as alert as market is the
:03:29. > :03:32.most serious incident since 2005, so there is something working in some
:03:33. > :03:35.ways, but on the other hand, the person responsible for this was
:03:36. > :03:40.brought to the attention of authorities, is there are serious
:03:41. > :03:45.questions that need to be answered and as to why action was not taken
:03:46. > :03:51.earlier to prevent this. We need to learn lessons from this, that is a
:03:52. > :03:54.cliche to say, but you have to review at all times. The army and
:03:55. > :04:00.some of the armoured police are coming off the streets quite soon.
:04:01. > :04:04.You got a huge event in Cardiff, Champions League coming up. Do you
:04:05. > :04:10.want to see more armed police back for that? Are you concerned about
:04:11. > :04:14.that event? I want to see it adequately resourced, security wise,
:04:15. > :04:17.obviously. It is going to be a big event. Many people will come to
:04:18. > :04:23.Wales. I do not think people should be put from coming. It will be an
:04:24. > :04:26.amazing event. I'm sure by making sure the security side is resourced
:04:27. > :04:28.that people will have that confidence and reassurance. Thank
:04:29. > :05:02.you for talking to us. Order! Order act... MPs are polite
:05:03. > :05:07.and good-tempered. Order! Or, at least they are meant to be.
:05:08. > :05:09.According to the rule book, good temper and moderation are the
:05:10. > :05:14.characteristics of Parliamentary language. But politics is a dirty
:05:15. > :05:18.game. Indeed at the moment, MPs often resort to language which is,
:05:19. > :05:19.for want of