:00:26. > :00:29.Good afternoon. Welcome to the Daily Politics.
:00:29. > :00:33.As we all turn our central heating on, the Government's meeting the
:00:33. > :00:37.big six energy companies in an effort to bring prices down. But
:00:37. > :00:40.will it work? The Wall Street protest has spread to Europe and
:00:40. > :00:43.the City of London and they say they're not leaving until
:00:43. > :00:47.something's done about Coroporate greed.
:00:47. > :00:49.Mum or Dad should be able to share maternity leave - that's what the
:00:49. > :00:58.government's promised - but with the economy in dire straits are
:00:58. > :01:02.they about to change their mind? And has reality TV created a
:01:02. > :01:11.generation of idle, unemployable layabouts. We'll ask the man who
:01:12. > :01:14.brought Big Brother to Britain. All that in the next half hour. And
:01:14. > :01:18.with us for the whole programme today is the television
:01:18. > :01:21.entrepreneur, Peter Bazalgette. Welcome. First today, the protests
:01:22. > :01:26.that started on Wall Street a few weeks ago have spread across Europe
:01:26. > :01:29.and to the city of London. Anti- capitalist protestors have been
:01:29. > :01:32.camped outside St Paul's Cathedral all weekend and as City workers
:01:32. > :01:40.arrive this morning they're still there, and they say they'll stay
:01:40. > :01:46.until the Government takes action on corporate greed. We were hoping
:01:46. > :01:48.to be joined by one of the protesters, but they are too busy.
:01:49. > :01:54.These protesters don't have much chance of achieving anything do
:01:54. > :02:03.they? I suspect not. But it is an interesting phenomenon. Just before
:02:03. > :02:10.we saw the riot spread across Britain on Twitter and social Media,
:02:10. > :02:13.I see this, I have a media angle on this predictably. You would have,
:02:14. > :02:18.but in numbers terms they need to have thousands out there before you
:02:18. > :02:23.can achieve anything? You mentioned corporate greed, there are some
:02:23. > :02:29.serious issues about executive pay and senior executive pay shouldn't
:02:29. > :02:33.be more 20 times than the lowest paid person in the country, and all
:02:33. > :02:37.sorts of things under discussion. There are some things the
:02:37. > :02:42.Government could do about corporate pay if they wanted to. I don't know
:02:42. > :02:49.how specific the protesters are and it looks like we won't find out.
:02:49. > :02:54.Our corporate people greedy? We are all greedy. But can you harness it
:02:54. > :02:57.for the public good? Senior executive pay in large
:02:57. > :03:02.organisations has gone out of control, compared to the medium
:03:02. > :03:06.pace in organisations over the last 20 years. He would say it is the
:03:06. > :03:13.private sector, not just the public sector? The BBC have had to reform
:03:13. > :03:18.its pay structures, so it is all sectors. But it will Hutton has had
:03:18. > :03:23.some proposals, and his proposals are, you should bring a matrix in
:03:23. > :03:27.Between the ratio of senior pay to median pay and the lowest paid in
:03:27. > :03:31.organisations. Do you think protests a like these, even though
:03:31. > :03:36.there is a global element to it and they say they will stay until
:03:36. > :03:41.something is done. Unless you are affiliated politically or have any
:03:41. > :03:46.bearing on governance, nothing will change will it? The biggest
:03:46. > :03:49.significance of the protest outside St Paul's Cathedral is it will be
:03:49. > :03:54.disruptive to people going to communion. And they say they will
:03:54. > :04:00.put up with that? The vicar who said that on the radio this morning
:04:00. > :04:03.may come to regret that. The if it gets a bit colder, let's see how
:04:03. > :04:06.long they stay! And, Andrew Neil may not be here in
:04:06. > :04:10.person this morning. But he's with us spiritually. He's blogged on the
:04:10. > :04:13.eurozone crisis for us and you can read what he's got to say at the
:04:13. > :04:23.web address on screen at the moment. Now David Cameron's being told by
:04:23. > :04:28.
:04:28. > :04:35.pollsters that he's got a problem with women. Will the Prime Minister
:04:35. > :04:40.turn on the Number Ten heating? It is �1,334 a year. That is following
:04:40. > :04:47.recent price rises from the suppliers. The regulator, Ofcom
:04:47. > :04:53.said last week the profit margin for energy firms had risen up to
:04:53. > :04:57.�125 per customer per year. From �15 in jeans. As energy prices have
:04:57. > :05:01.risen they have gone up the political agenda. Ed Miliband
:05:01. > :05:05.targeted the energy companies in his speech last month, saying it is
:05:05. > :05:09.a mid-market and argue it the squeeze Middle feel the brunt of
:05:10. > :05:13.the price increases. The Government had made similar noises with the
:05:13. > :05:15.Energy Secretary promising he will get tough with the firms, was the
:05:15. > :05:20.Prime Minister has said the Government needs to work harder and
:05:20. > :05:24.faster to bring down energy bills. Chris Huhne plans to highlight two
:05:24. > :05:28.ways consumers can cut bills. The Government will write to thousands
:05:29. > :05:33.of consumers who are entitled to insulation which will cut bills by
:05:33. > :05:38.�100 a year. Switching to direct debit payments, according to the
:05:38. > :05:44.Government, can also save �100 a year. I am joined by the energy
:05:44. > :05:48.spokesman for Labour and a representative from the energy
:05:48. > :05:53.companies attending the summit. Christine, in terms of what the
:05:53. > :05:57.energy companies are prepared to do, why don't they give the cheapest
:05:57. > :06:03.tariffs to customers who call them? A lot of them are getting in touch
:06:03. > :06:07.with customers to do that. The advice today will be make sure you
:06:07. > :06:10.on the right tariff, or switch to another supplier because we have a
:06:11. > :06:16.competitive market. Insulate, because that can save hundreds of
:06:16. > :06:21.pounds. And all of that could help people save money. It may not make
:06:21. > :06:25.sexy headlines, this insulating, energy switching, it is hassle.
:06:25. > :06:30.Poor people can make a difference. It is all very well to talk about
:06:30. > :06:34.the market, but these can make a difference to people now. It is the
:06:34. > :06:38.consumer that has to find the cheapest tariff, the consumer that
:06:38. > :06:43.will have to find out about insulating their home and switching
:06:43. > :06:48.companies. The energy companies won't bring their prices down?
:06:48. > :06:53.will be sending out messages, letters to customers urging them to
:06:53. > :06:57.shop around because you can save money. Saving money yes, but you
:06:57. > :07:02.cannot bring the prices down. You won't bring the prices down. That
:07:02. > :07:09.is what those companies are meant to do, maximise their profits?
:07:09. > :07:14.Ofgem said in their document last week, why are energy prices rising?
:07:14. > :07:18.It said quite clearly, wholesale gas prices which have gone up 40%
:07:18. > :07:23.this year of the driver between energy bills rising. There is
:07:23. > :07:27.nothing anyone can do, there is no escaping it, even the small
:07:27. > :07:34.companies, it is not just the big ones. So you profits have gone up,
:07:34. > :07:42.too? Ofgem says it has gone up by a �100, is that justifiable? Those
:07:42. > :07:47.figures don't paint and realistic figure? Are they wrong? We would
:07:47. > :07:51.dispute those figures. How much have they gone up? Profit margins
:07:51. > :07:57.have gone up because wholesale prices have gone up. They are very
:07:57. > :08:02.volatile. It was �15 before the summer and it did look like it had
:08:02. > :08:12.gone up by �100. If you look at it over five years which off gendered,
:08:12. > :08:13.
:08:13. > :08:17.they are warm 0.6%. -- Ofgem did. Profit margins are there to stay,
:08:17. > :08:22.what are you proposing with his breaking up of the dominance of
:08:22. > :08:29.this market, there is nothing you can do? The first thing to say,
:08:29. > :08:34.profits have gone up by �110. profit margin yes. Ofgem says they
:08:34. > :08:40.have gone up to 125. The challenge for the consumer is trying to
:08:40. > :08:44.navigate all the different tariffs. We are calling for a unit standing
:08:44. > :08:50.charge and a set additional cost so people can understand what is going
:08:50. > :08:53.on. According to the report last week, 80% of consumers are not
:08:54. > :09:02.offered the best deal by their energy company. Why aren't they
:09:02. > :09:06.offer that? Engage consumers have benefited a lot. Ask that dance --
:09:06. > :09:11.answer that, why aren't they offered the best? They are going to
:09:11. > :09:17.get letters offering them. So that is going to change? The Government
:09:17. > :09:20.has said they are going to call on energy companies so consumers can
:09:20. > :09:24.go to it energy companies asking for the best prices, but not
:09:25. > :09:32.stating what is the best tariff for those individual customers? Some
:09:32. > :09:38.people once based -- fixed tariff, some people want a green tariff. It
:09:38. > :09:42.is not as simple as that. Most people will do now, fuel poverty is
:09:42. > :09:48.becoming a problem. Companies will be getting touch with customers
:09:48. > :09:51.offering them a tariff. Energy companies are there to make profits,
:09:51. > :09:55.they are be holding to their shareholders, you cannot stop that.
:09:55. > :09:59.There needs to be an admission from politicians and the Government, you
:10:00. > :10:06.cannot force companies to bring their prices down? The public to
:10:06. > :10:10.expect and deserve... Can you do it? There are some things the
:10:10. > :10:15.Government can do. Scottish and Southern Energy said they will sell
:10:15. > :10:19.their electricity on an open market. All the other electricity companies
:10:19. > :10:24.that generate electricity, they only sell it to themselves. Just
:10:24. > :10:29.six companies provide energy to 99% of the market, it is closed and
:10:29. > :10:33.transfer not very transparent. of that is going to happen in the
:10:33. > :10:36.near future and people are facing fuel poverty now. Do you accept
:10:36. > :10:40.during 13 years of Labour Government there was a failure for
:10:40. > :10:44.companies to invest in infrastructure? You could have done
:10:44. > :10:49.it early on but you didn't. People are contesting whether we should
:10:49. > :10:54.put that Investment... There is now, prices have gone up and we are
:10:54. > :10:58.paying for that. But in 1997 you did not make those companies invest.
:10:58. > :11:05.There were loads of things that needed to be done first and it took
:11:05. > :11:09.time. But it was put in place and the challenge now is, we have to
:11:09. > :11:14.ensure security of supply and we are not seeing that. On security of
:11:14. > :11:18.supply you did not think about energy supply. It took Labour many
:11:18. > :11:22.years before any decisions were made about nuclear power stations?
:11:22. > :11:30.We put that opportunity in place but energy companies to invest in
:11:30. > :11:34.renewables and look at other ways of supplying. The Labour Government
:11:34. > :11:38.put that in place. How much money is going to be invested by the
:11:38. > :11:43.energy companies in new infrastructure? The figure Ofgem
:11:43. > :11:46.says is necessary is 200 billion over the next 10 years. It is a
:11:46. > :11:55.huge sum and the companies have to make some money so they can attract
:11:55. > :11:59.the investment that will allow them to do that. How realistic is it to
:11:59. > :12:04.break up the dominance, have other people supplying the energy? We are
:12:04. > :12:09.in favour of a competitive market, we have one of the most competitive
:12:09. > :12:14.markets anywhere in the world for the cheapest price per unit of gas
:12:14. > :12:21.and there have been a lot of benefits. Is the No 1 agenda for
:12:21. > :12:27.the public? You cannot have low prices and high investment. Green
:12:27. > :12:32.energy, tremendously expensive. The greener we want to be, the more
:12:32. > :12:36.pricey it is. Shale Gas, which is being developed could absolutely
:12:36. > :12:42.turn around the prices in the energy sector if we develop it
:12:42. > :12:45.properly, but it will require investment. In vestment is the key.
:12:45. > :12:50.David Cameron is being told by pollsters he has a problem with
:12:50. > :12:57.women. He has been in trouble for saying things like this.
:12:57. > :13:02.Calm down there, calm down. Listen to the doctor. What David Cameron
:13:03. > :13:05.saw as a bit of banter was interpreted as underlying sexism, a
:13:05. > :13:09.misunderstanding which led to this apology.
:13:09. > :13:14.I obviously said some things in the House of Commons that came out
:13:14. > :13:18.wrong. It caused the wrong impression and I deeply regret that.
:13:18. > :13:22.I was asked about it in an interview with the Sunday Times and
:13:22. > :13:29.I said what I think. It sounds terrible, I apologise for that. It
:13:29. > :13:33.is not what I'm like, it is not what I am. I must do better.
:13:33. > :13:37.The apology is apparently part of the Prime Minister's attempt to
:13:37. > :13:41.show he is a decent person but he is looking at concrete policies.
:13:41. > :13:46.The Government is committed to making maternity and paternity
:13:46. > :13:50.leave more flexible so it can be shared between partners. But a
:13:50. > :13:58.review of red tape has recommended the plans are dropped. Joining me
:13:58. > :14:02.is a Conservative MP and the Labour MP has stayed with me. Why should
:14:02. > :14:06.the Government dropped its extension of its flagship policies?
:14:06. > :14:10.I have not seen the report and they did not realise a report has been
:14:10. > :14:15.that -- published if you are referring to the one by Adam
:14:15. > :14:19.Beecroft. No single legislated for a measure will have a major impact
:14:19. > :14:23.on employment or business growth. We have to be careful about adding
:14:23. > :14:27.several extra layers which may make it more difficult for employers to
:14:27. > :14:32.employ people. You are basically saying they shouldn't be any more
:14:32. > :14:36.legislation that will add to what employers have to deal with?
:14:36. > :14:41.would seek to avoid adding any more at this time. It is a flagship
:14:41. > :14:44.policy and part of the Government's commitment to extend flexible
:14:44. > :14:50.working and the sharing of parental leave? If you look at it on the
:14:50. > :14:54.whole, as trying to help support families. You look at a range of
:14:54. > :14:59.fiscal measures that have been introduced, but the biggest way is
:14:59. > :15:03.to help people get back into work. There is some very good protected
:15:03. > :15:08.rights in place at the moment. Think very carefully before we move
:15:08. > :15:14.to make more burdens and difficulties for businesses. Some
:15:14. > :15:18.of the shared parental Leeds, I can see why it is a good idea. But I
:15:18. > :15:25.also question how you regulate that. But it has to be thought through
:15:25. > :15:35.and I hope that is what will be looked at. Do you think the
:15:35. > :15:35.
:15:35. > :15:40.Government will drop any of this? The Government should be looking at
:15:40. > :15:44.how they can create jobs and growth and looking at parental leave, in
:15:44. > :15:48.the grand scheme of things, it's quite irrelevant. They should go
:15:48. > :15:52.ahead with those policies even if it's an extra burden? Yes, simply,
:15:53. > :15:56.they should. The chances of it being dropped Arslan from the
:15:56. > :16:01.evidence and what the other problem the Government, particularly David
:16:01. > :16:04.Cameron, have that with women voters? If we're going to address
:16:04. > :16:10.the question of perception with voters, we are in danger of missing
:16:10. > :16:14.the point. Is it perception? Even David Cameron himself wants to have
:16:14. > :16:19.policies that demonstrate the Conservatives are thinking about
:16:19. > :16:23.women. Yes, if you look at the policies put forward, easing the
:16:23. > :16:27.burden on families through the measures introduced, next year the
:16:27. > :16:32.tax allowance up to 8,000, child tax credits being increased, that
:16:33. > :16:37.is all good stuff but ultimately, what we are depending on for growth
:16:37. > :16:41.is jobs. My argument is we should not tighten the straitjacket on
:16:41. > :16:48.employers, and actually help women and all people back into work by
:16:48. > :16:53.not increasing the regulation. truth is there is a 10 point capo
:16:53. > :16:57.with women's and men's support for the Conservative Party. Will that
:16:57. > :17:01.change by extending rights for parental leave? Reeves in the
:17:01. > :17:05.highest unemployment for women since the 1980s. The Government has
:17:06. > :17:09.taken a nursery care, support, and women are very upset with what the
:17:09. > :17:15.Government is doing. It's another nail in the coffin if they pursue
:17:15. > :17:18.it. You need to change that perception. We are based in reality,
:17:18. > :17:23.we have increased child tax allowances. We have extended
:17:23. > :17:29.nursery rights, as well for the what about child benefit for higher
:17:29. > :17:32.tax payers? Should that be kept? would be keen that that we look at
:17:32. > :17:38.the whole range of fiscal measures which do the job so my argument
:17:38. > :17:43.would say, it would benefit more people by the extending the tax
:17:43. > :17:47.allowance rather than focus on one area. I'll be going to add another
:17:47. > :17:50.layer of regulatory burden when, over and above, some very good
:17:50. > :17:54.employment protection rights that exists at the moment, my argument
:17:54. > :18:00.is we should not be doing that and we should be cautious about doing
:18:00. > :18:06.it at this particularly difficult time. Would you allow the sacking
:18:06. > :18:10.of that pregnant women in this climate? No, of course not. Rogue
:18:10. > :18:14.employers should be dealt with with the legislation in place and that's
:18:14. > :18:19.what we do at the moment. All employers should be treated fairly
:18:19. > :18:25.and equally but the protection is existing. I haven't a company for
:18:25. > :18:30.25 years. One I left, we employed 100 people. Do you accept the
:18:30. > :18:35.Tories have a problem with women voters? You have to believe the
:18:35. > :18:38.polls. The important thing is, if there are issues out there, people
:18:38. > :18:43.will never just focus on one single individual issue but look at what
:18:43. > :18:48.you're doing, for them and their families for the high important
:18:48. > :18:51.would this be, as an employer yourself, extending parental leave?
:18:51. > :18:58.Are they important? The most important issue today is
:18:58. > :19:03.unemployment, I think. If the most important issue is that, everything
:19:03. > :19:07.must enable companies to employ more people, and that means that,
:19:07. > :19:13.if you put any additional burdens on businesses, however good they
:19:13. > :19:18.may sound, please take away another burden. Everybody talks about
:19:18. > :19:27.removing red tape but they put the red tape on companies. What are you
:19:27. > :19:30.going to take away? What would you take away? There's lots of things
:19:30. > :19:35.Labour has come up with which we do government should do to stimulate
:19:35. > :19:41.employment. Do you think, by putting an extra regulation, will
:19:41. > :19:48.have a detrimental effect in terms of employment? The Business I speak
:19:48. > :19:51.to see value having parents working for them, actually. I would say
:19:51. > :19:59.exactly that's what we've got at the moment, very good protection
:19:59. > :20:03.rights. The main point is, it accounts for over half the jobs in
:20:03. > :20:08.the private sector, let's encourage them and not impose more burdens
:20:08. > :20:14.for the Yes, let's encourage small and medium enterprises to take on
:20:14. > :20:19.more employees by having a National Insurance holiday. Politically, of
:20:19. > :20:23.course, there is a split with various people in the Cabinet on
:20:23. > :20:31.either side of the argument. Do you think it is going to become one of
:20:31. > :20:35.those defining roles? I suspect not. Most splits, what I would say,
:20:35. > :20:40.there have been some strong words said about it at the moment. What I
:20:40. > :20:46.think the Government should remain focused on is their commitment to
:20:46. > :20:51.help create the conditions for small businesses to thrive, which
:20:51. > :20:56.is about reducing the burden of regulation, not just in this area
:20:56. > :20:59.but other areas as well. Thank you. Is there a generation of young
:20:59. > :21:01.people out there that lacks the energy or get-up-and-go to make a
:21:01. > :21:04.fist of things in Britain's increasingly tough job market? The
:21:04. > :21:06.unemployment rate amongst 16-24 year olds is nudging the one
:21:06. > :21:11.million mark with evidence that employers prefer older or immigrant
:21:11. > :21:14.workers to British youth. Some are suggesting that reality shows like
:21:14. > :21:17.Big Brother introduced to Britain by my guest of the day Peter
:21:17. > :21:27.Bazalgette are to blame for the fact some young people just don't
:21:27. > :21:39.
:21:39. > :21:44.feel like working. Adam's been Day 22,000, the House of parliament,
:21:44. > :21:48.and a politician who knows a thing or two about Big Brother has taken
:21:48. > :21:53.to the airways to criticise a certain reality TV show. The idea
:21:53. > :21:59.the way you succeed is by being famous, just making an appearance
:21:59. > :22:01.on Big Brother, if you get that, you can't succeed. Actually, we
:22:01. > :22:05.need to show this different ways of succeeding for young people and
:22:05. > :22:11.what I worry about deeply is giving people a sense that there something
:22:11. > :22:15.for something. That has got the vote of this columnist. You don't
:22:15. > :22:18.have to have learned anything to appear on a reality show. You don't
:22:19. > :22:25.have to be good at anything. Once you have appeared on it, you become
:22:25. > :22:31.famous, as ever did, make money, and are successful, without trying.
:22:31. > :22:37.That the values they are imparting. According to his employment expert,
:22:37. > :22:42.those attitudes are being felt in the world of work. Evidence shows a
:22:42. > :22:47.third of employers are not happy with young people's skills and work
:22:47. > :22:51.attitude, so that shows there might be an issue, and it's a little bit
:22:51. > :22:57.alarming considering the economy and labour market and youth
:22:57. > :23:00.unemployment more generally. But, this academic, who has looked of
:23:00. > :23:04.thousands of survey responses from young people across Europe, thinks
:23:04. > :23:08.the picture is more complicated. the moment, we are high levels of
:23:08. > :23:11.unemployment, it could lead to people to think that taking a quick
:23:12. > :23:15.route to celebrities is a good option for them, but the vast
:23:15. > :23:19.majority of young people are quite sensible, and they just won't take
:23:19. > :23:23.that route. They know that they have to work hard, and that's the
:23:23. > :23:27.only way they will achieve things. The fact is, cutting the record
:23:27. > :23:31.levels of youth unemployment is one of the big issues in politics at
:23:31. > :23:36.the moment and the contestant who succeeds in that task is likely to
:23:36. > :23:42.be crowned at the whim of the reality show that his Westminster.
:23:42. > :23:48.Prime minister, this is Big Brother, get out of the Jacuzzi!
:23:48. > :23:53.Ed Miliband said reality TV shows like Big Brother have contributed
:23:53. > :23:57.to a general malaise, a generation of young people who have a feeling
:23:57. > :24:00.of entitlement for nothing. It's a good cheaper slogan on a wet
:24:00. > :24:04.afternoon when you can't think of what else to put in a conference
:24:04. > :24:09.speech in the autumn. No, it's always been a teenage desire to be
:24:09. > :24:13.famous, going back to the coffee shops are Denmark Street, in the
:24:13. > :24:20.1950s when Cliff Richard wanted to be a start, or go back to the
:24:20. > :24:23.celebrity collectors of the 1920s, it's a desire. -- cultures.
:24:23. > :24:29.Television gives people 50 minutes of fame but as nothing to do with
:24:29. > :24:34.what that piece was about. It's about young people's skills of they
:24:34. > :24:37.depend on the education system and that is the proper issue that that
:24:37. > :24:43.report was raising. Television entertainment is not the beginning,
:24:43. > :24:46.the end or the middle. Maybe not, but has it contributed? There is a
:24:46. > :24:50.strong feeling that, although you argue people are always wanted to
:24:50. > :24:55.be famous, now there are many, many young people who think it is
:24:55. > :25:02.achievable. It's not just for the chosen few but it's an achievable
:25:02. > :25:07.aim in life to be famous, for doing very little. No, it's a perfectly
:25:07. > :25:12.legitimate dream as a teenager, to think of yourself in that way.
:25:12. > :25:17.have up TV shows, the X Factor, Britain's got talent, it's all
:25:17. > :25:21.about on stage performing to be paid a lot of money, not to have
:25:21. > :25:27.role models of doctors, nurses, teachers, but that has diminished
:25:27. > :25:30.and the celebrity has increased. There are more celebrity shows on
:25:30. > :25:34.television and there is more television and more channels, so,
:25:34. > :25:38.in that sense, it's true, but I don't think the sentiments of that
:25:38. > :25:43.age group has changed at all. Everybody has this fantasy about
:25:43. > :25:46.being famous when they are a teenager. What we have to do in the
:25:46. > :25:52.education system is have more jobs will be good to go into an that's
:25:52. > :25:56.basic, and hasn't got a lot to do with reality television. In terms
:25:56. > :26:02.of young people employment, what do you see out there? Young British
:26:02. > :26:05.workers are not employable? That's putting it too strongly, but if you
:26:05. > :26:10.take the large employers in Britain, they don't always get the levels of
:26:10. > :26:13.skills, particularly in a literacy and IT they need, and sometimes
:26:13. > :26:18.they have had remedial courses when they employ them and that's not
:26:19. > :26:22.good enough. We need to put that right in school. How have you found
:26:22. > :26:29.attitudes about people turning up on time, looking smug, playing the
:26:29. > :26:33.game? I think it would be a gross generalisation to say there was a
:26:33. > :26:40.problem with attitude. I think it one was going to allege that, you
:26:40. > :26:44.would have to come up with evidence, not anecdotal observations, a quick
:26:44. > :26:49.line-out from a speech of a politician. Seeing it in the round,
:26:49. > :26:58.though, you have celebrity reality television on the one hand, the new
:26:58. > :27:00.media on the other, the obsession with mobile phones, and the rest of
:27:00. > :27:05.very different way than employers would like them to be in the world
:27:05. > :27:12.of work. In the sense that they are not focused on getting the jobs,
:27:12. > :27:15.they are more focused on a social celebrity level? No, young people's
:27:15. > :27:20.dexterity with a new media is a positive we should build on going
:27:20. > :27:25.forward, and those that are really media-literate, they may not be
:27:25. > :27:29.wise, and put far too much of their private lives on Facebook, but that
:27:29. > :27:38.a separate issue, but they are much more employable and that's a good
:27:38. > :27:45.thing. You argued forcibly there. tried! While three have been on air,
:27:45. > :27:49.James Landale joins me, what is the news? Over the weekend to be a good
:27:49. > :27:53.impression the Government was going to shake up its policies towards
:27:53. > :27:57.lobbying as a result of the Dr Fox effect when William Hague yesterday
:27:57. > :28:00.said ministers would take stock of its policy well the Prime
:28:00. > :28:04.Minister's spokesman said this morning these are two separate
:28:04. > :28:07.issues pulled up Liam Fox on one hand and the Government plans to
:28:07. > :28:12.reform of lobbying. There's an existing process under way and the
:28:12. > :28:18.Government is consulting on a statutory register of lobbyists for
:28:18. > :28:21.the that process will be ongoing, nothing will change. Yes, if there
:28:21. > :28:25.are any elements of the Dr Fox affair that are relevant, it will
:28:25. > :28:29.be taking into account, but the Government will not speed up the
:28:29. > :28:35.policy in any way. They are two separate issues so tomorrow when
:28:35. > :28:39.Gus O'Donnell reports on the whole affair, we shouldn't expect much
:28:39. > :28:42.policy recommendations, just the facts. James, thank you for joining
:28:42. > :28:46.us today. That's all for today. Thanks to our