:00:44. > :00:47.Afternoon folks and welcome to the Daily Politics on Friday.
:00:47. > :00:50.Chris Huhne's troubles over alleged driving offences are about to come
:00:50. > :00:54.to a climax. The Sunday Times say it will hand over to police,
:00:54. > :00:57.crucial evidence relating to the case. We'll have the latest from
:00:57. > :01:04.the High Court. Could we be about to give billions
:01:04. > :01:07.more to the IMF to help shore up countries in the eurozone? Many
:01:08. > :01:13.Tory MPs aren't too happy about that prospect. Could George Osborne
:01:13. > :01:16.be facing a rebellion from the backbenches?
:01:16. > :01:21.Metal theft is on the increase - MPs want new laws to end the cash
:01:21. > :01:31.trade in scrap metal. But some say this could penalise small
:01:31. > :01:32.
:01:32. > :01:35.businesses. If we tried to ban cash, this will drive the business
:01:35. > :01:41.Underground into illegal operation and potentially to encourage growth
:01:41. > :01:44.of organised crime. Yes, all that in our last ever
:01:44. > :01:51.half-hour programme! That's right, from Monday the Daily Politics
:01:51. > :01:59.becomes an hour-long feast of political programming. You lucky
:01:59. > :02:08.people! Joining me on this historic day are Kevin Maguire of the Mirror
:02:08. > :02:13.and Melissa Kite. She works for a magazine called the Spectator. Nope,
:02:13. > :02:16.I haven't heard of it either. Welcome to you both. First this
:02:16. > :02:18.morning let's go straight over to the High Court. We've got some more
:02:18. > :02:25.news about the alleged driving offences surrounding the Climate
:02:25. > :02:28.Change Secretary, Chris Huhne. Ben Geoghan is there for us. Then came
:02:28. > :02:35.what has been happening this morning?
:02:35. > :02:39.It came as a surprise to everyone. We turned up at the court,
:02:39. > :02:44.expecting the Sunday Times would argue the court had to agree with
:02:44. > :02:48.them they should hand over these e- mails that had been at the centre
:02:48. > :02:52.of this whole issue. E-mails the Sunday Times had which Essex Police
:02:52. > :02:57.want to have a look at, as part of their investigation into the
:02:57. > :03:00.allegations surrounding Chris Huhne. But within a few minutes it became
:03:00. > :03:06.clear the Times newspaper group had decided not to challenge the
:03:06. > :03:10.production order which had been issued by Essex Police and as one
:03:10. > :03:16.lawyer said this morning, the original production order had been
:03:16. > :03:21.is conceived, the challenge to the Miss -- the challenge to the
:03:21. > :03:26.original production order had been Miss conceived. So it looks as
:03:26. > :03:32.though these e-mails will be handed over by the Sunday Times to the
:03:32. > :03:37.Essex Police, so it will form part of the police investigation. Are we
:03:37. > :03:42.any nearer knowing when and if the police are going to charge Chris
:03:42. > :03:48.Huhne, or walk away because they haven't got the case against him?
:03:48. > :03:55.think this decision will be pivotal. In November, the DPP Keir Starmer
:03:55. > :03:59.said they were very close to making a decision. He did not spell out
:03:59. > :04:02.what that decision was likely to be, but he did say what they were
:04:02. > :04:07.waiting for was a resolution about this issue of evidence, which at
:04:07. > :04:12.the time the Sunday Times were reluctant to hand over. Now they
:04:12. > :04:17.have agreed to do that and things are likely to move on quickly. We
:04:17. > :04:21.should expect a decision from the CPS before too long. Keir Starmer
:04:21. > :04:26.Sen we wouldn't prosecute if we did not have enough evidence, but he
:04:26. > :04:36.said we wouldn't shy away from prosecuting a politician if we felt
:04:36. > :04:36.
:04:36. > :04:40.there was evidence. Thanks for the update. Kevin, what has the Sunday
:04:40. > :04:47.Times on first? There will be some criticism because this goes to the
:04:47. > :04:51.heart of journalists sources? protecting your sauce. The police
:04:51. > :04:56.can apply for a production order way you are required in law to
:04:56. > :05:00.produce what ever evidence it is. Traditionally newspapers fight it
:05:00. > :05:03.all the way, otherwise why would people come to you as a journalist
:05:03. > :05:08.and give you information if they think it will be handed to the
:05:08. > :05:12.police? I think the Sunday Times performed a public role by putting
:05:12. > :05:17.these allegations out into the public arena, but it was for the
:05:17. > :05:22.police to get their own evidence. Chris Huhne has not got a huge
:05:22. > :05:27.number of allies in the Tories or in his own party. But you do have
:05:27. > :05:30.to feel for him. The police have to make up their minds. This has been
:05:30. > :05:34.hanging over him for a long time. They have to make up their minds if
:05:34. > :05:39.they will take this forward or, if they have not got the evidence,
:05:39. > :05:44.back off? He has not got any friends because this was a stupid
:05:44. > :05:50.thing to have got involved with. If he had just been done for speeding,
:05:50. > :05:55.none of this would have happened. It is assuming he has done anything
:05:55. > :05:59.wrong, which we don't know? He has maintained his innocence all the
:06:00. > :06:09.way through. It has gone so long, it started last summer. He could
:06:09. > :06:16.have driven round the world several times. Maybe he did? Maybe he did!
:06:16. > :06:22.He has very few friends. But he has a rhino hide, he has the toughest
:06:22. > :06:28.skin I have come across in politics. It all bounces of him, he will have
:06:28. > :06:34.to have his fingers prized one by one from a red box if they will get
:06:34. > :06:38.him out, should he be charged. he is charged, he will have to step
:06:38. > :06:44.down from the Cabinet and Mr Cameron will be faced with a
:06:44. > :06:49.reshuffle. The question then, does David Cameron goes for an
:06:49. > :06:55.Elastoplast reshuffle just to fill the position, limit changes as much
:06:55. > :06:58.as he can, or will he go for a Big Bang? I am told he wants to go for
:06:58. > :07:04.a big bang. He hasn't had a reshuffle for a while and wants to
:07:04. > :07:09.move a few people. This will be the time to do it. There are rumours he
:07:09. > :07:14.will be even bring back David Laws, who you'll remember was forced to
:07:14. > :07:21.resign in another scandal. He will either bringing back or move Ed
:07:22. > :07:25.Davey, who he has talked as a proper -- possible replacement. He
:07:25. > :07:34.could move Vince Cable out of business and put David Laws into
:07:34. > :07:44.the business role. Moving Vince Cable over to Chris Huhne's job.
:07:44. > :07:44.
:07:44. > :07:54.Vince Cable, Ed Davey, three had been smile as? Fall of the joys.
:07:54. > :07:58.Big Bang or Elastoplast? I think he would get that over and done with
:07:58. > :08:05.and then have a proper reshuffle later. He is ready for one but had
:08:05. > :08:09.an Elastoplast went David Laws went. Also Liam Fox, the Defence
:08:10. > :08:15.Secretary for taking his best friend to work. He has two
:08:15. > :08:19.reshuffles. A Lib Dem reshuffle with her five posts and the
:08:19. > :08:24.conservative reshuffle. If the police decide they have no evidence,
:08:24. > :08:26.there will be no reshuffle at all no doubt. Absolutely.
:08:26. > :08:30.How much should British taxpayers contribute to rescuing the
:08:30. > :08:32.eurozone? It was reported this week that the International Monetary
:08:32. > :08:42.Fund is seeking more than double its lending resources for countries
:08:42. > :08:45.
:08:45. > :08:49.in trouble to around a trillion dollars. And that means the UK is
:08:49. > :08:52.in the frame for another huge contribution. As a member of the
:08:52. > :08:58.IMF, the British government is liable to contribute 4.5% of the
:08:58. > :09:02.IMF's lending facility. The United Kingdom has already pumped in �30
:09:02. > :09:11.billion to the IMF's coffers. But now the international body wants
:09:11. > :09:15.more. It needs more bail-out money. The Chancellor has ruled out any
:09:15. > :09:20.direct support to the eurozone, but said the UK would be willing to
:09:20. > :09:22.provide more resources if he felt it was a decent request. That could
:09:22. > :09:32.mean expanding our contribution by an additional �17 billion, taking
:09:32. > :09:33.
:09:33. > :09:36.it over the �40 billion limit already approved by Parliament.
:09:36. > :09:39.That vote, last July, saw 32 MPs rebel and having to go back to the
:09:39. > :09:49.Commons again will give euro sceptics yet another chance to have
:09:49. > :09:59.
:09:59. > :10:05.a pop. Here's what one of those rebels said this morning.
:10:05. > :10:10.We should be putting money into the IMF to bail out the Euro. That is
:10:10. > :10:14.what is being suggested. So billions of pounds of British
:10:14. > :10:19.taxpayers' money as a fig-leaf and then be put into the Euro. We did
:10:19. > :10:24.say we wouldn't bail out the Euro, but we would be it be put it in Mia
:10:24. > :10:27.the IMF. Enough is enough. But that was to come before Parliament I
:10:27. > :10:30.think there would be a battle. We're joined now by the
:10:30. > :10:38.Conservative MP and former adviser to George Osborne, Matthew Hancock,
:10:38. > :10:43.and by the Shadow Treasury Minister, Chris Leslie. Matthew Hancock, if
:10:43. > :10:50.we do participate in a 500 billion cash call by the IMF, how much
:10:50. > :10:57.would we be up for? It depends exactly on the numbers. That is
:10:57. > :11:01.what I am asking for, a number? you said, there was a leaked IMF
:11:01. > :11:05.document that suggested the UK's contribution would be in the region
:11:05. > :11:11.of tens of billions. But the question is, do we want to be a
:11:11. > :11:16.member of the IMF? As we saw in the clip, it is clear the Government
:11:16. > :11:21.has said it shouldn't bale-out the eurozone. It is for the eurozone to
:11:21. > :11:27.do. But the IMF exists to support countries that go bankrupt and not
:11:27. > :11:32.currencies. It is an important distinction. Are you raising the
:11:32. > :11:35.issue of our membership of the IMF? If you vote against giving more
:11:35. > :11:40.resources to the IMF, when the rest of the world gives more resources
:11:40. > :11:45.to the IMF, he was saying you won't stand up to your international
:11:45. > :11:49.responsibilities. We were talking about needing to expand trade to
:11:49. > :11:52.China and Brazil, but you cannot both want to get the benefits of
:11:53. > :11:57.being part of the international economy, but not have the
:11:57. > :12:04.responsibilities which is paying your part. Britain's part is a
:12:04. > :12:13.small proportion. Do we stay in, or get out of the IMF? We absolutely
:12:13. > :12:16.stay in. I was very clear, I think we should absolutely stay in and
:12:16. > :12:20.live up to our international responsibilities, but the money
:12:20. > :12:24.should go to countries and not currencies. Do you think the
:12:24. > :12:29.British should participate in this cash call from the IMF? I don't
:12:29. > :12:34.know about this one, but we have to recognise there is a difference
:12:34. > :12:37.between being supportive of the IMF as an institution and then judge in
:12:37. > :12:42.every time they ask for more resources, is it necessary? The
:12:42. > :12:47.things it depends upon art is it going in as a sticking plaster to
:12:47. > :12:50.help these eurozone countries. Well eurozone countries themselves be
:12:50. > :12:54.dipping into their own pockets first before asking the rest of the
:12:54. > :12:59.world? We have to be supportive of the IMF, but we cannot just give a
:12:59. > :13:02.more and more cash Ann Leslie have a European central bank doing a
:13:02. > :13:07.proper job and Germany and others of dipping into their own pockets
:13:07. > :13:12.first. We are talking about conditions that might not be met,
:13:12. > :13:16.so you might be sceptical about another chunk of cash to the IMF?
:13:16. > :13:20.We need to see more action on the ECB. They have been doing more
:13:20. > :13:24.things in the secondary market. A lot of people are asking will they
:13:25. > :13:30.be a proper lending as a last resort? Where is the diplomatic
:13:30. > :13:34.pressure on Germany who are giving away tax cuts. It is a very wealthy
:13:34. > :13:38.eurozone, they should be putting up some of their own resources more
:13:38. > :13:42.quickly than they come to the rest of the world. It sounds like you
:13:42. > :13:47.could be facing a vote against by the Labour Party and by a lot of
:13:47. > :13:54.your own backbenchers? The position of the Labour Party seems to be
:13:54. > :13:59.extraordinary. I don't understand it. It you could just explain it?
:13:59. > :14:03.The Labour Party support of the membership of the IMF. The last
:14:04. > :14:12.increase in contributions to the IMF was knitters it to buy Gordon
:14:12. > :14:16.Brown. The party voted against it. -- was negotiated. The Labour Party
:14:16. > :14:23.said it would support the IMF if the money was for individual
:14:23. > :14:28.countries. That is the proposal on the table, so why don't you say you
:14:28. > :14:34.will support it? He did not say it was a proposal. It is a leaked
:14:34. > :14:39.document. Until we know what is out there... We are trying to clarify
:14:39. > :14:44.the Labour position. You sound as it you would take some convincing?
:14:44. > :14:49.I'm not going to make any apologies for taking care of taxpayers' money.
:14:49. > :14:53.This is billions of our resources, and we have to be careful. It it is
:14:53. > :14:56.the right thing to do and make sense, it there are no other
:14:56. > :15:04.solutions and the European Union and the Arizona are doing what they
:15:04. > :15:09.have to do, we will have to look at it. -- eurozone. The implication of
:15:09. > :15:13.some of your answers where, if we did not participate in this
:15:13. > :15:19.upcoming cash call, it would lead to questioning are very membership
:15:19. > :15:21.of the IMF. But as revealed on this programme about three weeks ago,
:15:21. > :15:28.the Americans were not participating in this. The White
:15:28. > :15:31.House has made it clear they are not going to put an extra dollar
:15:31. > :15:37.into the 500 billion the IMF wants. It was confirmed again this week on
:15:37. > :15:41.the record, by the President Obama White House. Nobody says it takes
:15:41. > :15:44.away the membership of the Americans from the IMF. If the
:15:44. > :15:54.Americans don't participate, and they are there because ones who
:15:54. > :15:58.pony up the cash, the 500 billion It is about living up your global
:15:58. > :16:03.responsibilities. This is about practice, not principle. If America
:16:03. > :16:09.doesn't participate, and given that the Europeans don't have any money,
:16:09. > :16:14.the round probably will not happen. It will only happen if there's a
:16:14. > :16:19.large number of G20 countries that come on board. But money in even if
:16:19. > :16:24.the Americans didn't. I would not support us putting money in
:16:24. > :16:30.different league if we were not supported by a large number of G20.
:16:30. > :16:35.-- 20 -- different league. Including the Americans or not? If
:16:35. > :16:42.an let C. Would we still participate without American
:16:42. > :16:47.participation? Let's find at the final proposals. It is really
:16:47. > :16:52.important, the Obama administration is trying to put pressure on
:16:52. > :16:56.Germany. We are saying the same. If you are saying whatever they ask,
:16:56. > :17:02.we must deliver the cash, that would be childish. I don't think
:17:02. > :17:07.anybody has to listen to a Labour spokesman on value for money.
:17:07. > :17:14.political points at this time on a Friday? It is what the viewers were
:17:14. > :17:19.thinking. I think this is quite a difficult issue for Labour and
:17:19. > :17:23.Conservative at the moment. There is no appetite to put in billions,
:17:23. > :17:27.particularly if the Americans have said no, which are then used to go
:17:27. > :17:31.to eurozone countries. It is a backdoor way of shovelling billions
:17:31. > :17:36.into the euro. It might be going to the countries rather than the
:17:36. > :17:42.currencies, it is the same. Using the IMF as a middleman. Matt and
:17:42. > :17:48.Chris probably agree more than it appears. I believe their line
:17:48. > :17:52.managers, George Osborne and Ed Balls, do. Particularly if Labour
:17:52. > :18:01.is not necessarily on board, these rebels could scupper this. Absolute
:18:01. > :18:06.glee. I can see why Tory MPs want to draw a line in the sand. This is
:18:06. > :18:11.a moment when Tory MPs who oppose pouring money into euro land say
:18:11. > :18:19.this is it, this is the line in the sand. If not here, when when you
:18:19. > :18:23.draw it? When the IMF get this money and uses it for a bail out,
:18:23. > :18:27.why would Labour want to do it? The conditions it imposes on the
:18:27. > :18:31.countries, like Greece, are exactly the kind of austerity conditions of
:18:31. > :18:37.Gough -- cutting government spending, raising taxes, that you
:18:37. > :18:43.oppose. Why would you at the IMF? Sometimes their policies could
:18:43. > :18:51.change. Posterity alone is definitely not the answer. -- or
:18:51. > :19:01.austerity alone. Another party political point! 1-1. We will leave
:19:01. > :19:01.
:19:01. > :19:03.it there. The IMF do what is right. It's being stolen from church roofs,
:19:03. > :19:06.schools, motorways and railway lines across the country and now
:19:06. > :19:10.MPs are pushing for tougher rules to stop metal thefts. A Private
:19:10. > :19:13.Members Bill on the issue gets its second reading in parliament today.
:19:13. > :19:17.It comes as a BBC investigation has revealed that �35 million worth of
:19:17. > :19:27.metal has been stolen in just one region, the West Midlands, over the
:19:27. > :19:37.
:19:37. > :19:42.past four years. Here's Susana Metal. Crushed in the Black Country,
:19:42. > :19:48.destined for places like China. And there are huge amounts of money to
:19:48. > :19:54.be made. A ton of copper, for example, will be worth around
:19:54. > :20:03.�5,000 on the metals market. Steel would be worth a bit less, �340 a
:20:03. > :20:06.tonne. But a ton of lead could Wrekin almost �1,300. -- bring in.
:20:06. > :20:12.No wonder thieves took the lead off the roof of this Birmingham School
:20:12. > :20:15.while no one was in. It has been replaced with a substitute material,
:20:15. > :20:21.but staff want to know why scrapyards are not asking more
:20:21. > :20:25.questions. They seem to be able to strip a building and turn up at a
:20:25. > :20:31.scrapyard and just presented as something they have got legally
:20:31. > :20:35.without too many questions. It is a growing problem nationally. In one
:20:35. > :20:40.region, the West Midlands, figures released after the BBC under the
:20:40. > :20:44.Freedom of Information Act show they have been almost 30,000 metal
:20:44. > :20:49.thefts there since 2008, the bulk of those dealt with by West
:20:49. > :20:52.Midlands police. The West Mercia force saw metal thefts a rise by
:20:52. > :20:57.95% and the largest theft Staffordshire police reported was
:20:57. > :21:02.to the tune of �100,000. MPs behind a private member's bill say the
:21:03. > :21:06.answer is a ban on cash sales. absolute key point is the cashless
:21:06. > :21:11.system. It is the only industry that has an extension to deal
:21:11. > :21:16.almost exclusively in cash. I think that is wrong and most of the
:21:16. > :21:22.industry which is legitimate also thinks it is wrong. It is a few
:21:22. > :21:29.rogue trained as -- traders handling storing metal.
:21:29. > :21:34.association representing scrap dealers favour photo ID. That will
:21:34. > :21:40.produce the answers we want. That will produce the audit trail and a
:21:40. > :21:43.traceability whereas if we tried to ban cash, this will just drive the
:21:43. > :21:51.business underground into illegal operation and potentially to
:21:51. > :21:59.encourage the growth of organised crime. The stakes are high. After
:21:59. > :22:03.all, this is an industry that Joining us now is the Conservative
:22:03. > :22:11.MP Chris Kelly - he was in the film there. He founded the parliamentary
:22:11. > :22:17.group demanding reforms on so called "metal laundering".
:22:17. > :22:21.Sounds a bit painful! What do you make of the British metals
:22:21. > :22:25.recycling Association? They said that if you go to a cashless system,
:22:25. > :22:31.it will be bad for a small businesses and you create a black
:22:32. > :22:37.market. That is completely false. I have a lot of metal dealers in my
:22:37. > :22:40.constituency... It is causing huge damage to the economy.
:22:40. > :22:46.Manufacturers are having metal stolen before they can even fulfil
:22:46. > :22:49.customer orders. In the constituencies like mine in Dudley
:22:49. > :22:56.South, it has to be eliminated, cash has to be eliminated from the
:22:56. > :23:01.system. What about the idea of an ID for metal? I'm not sure how that
:23:01. > :23:05.would work. Couldn't you just melted down? That is exactly the
:23:05. > :23:11.point. Most of the metal is melted down within a few miles of where it
:23:11. > :23:14.is stolen. The traceability is an important issue. As long as you
:23:14. > :23:18.allow cash to be used for the sale of metal, you will never be able to
:23:18. > :23:22.trace it. That is the fundamental issue. You seem to think this has
:23:22. > :23:27.been a problem for some time, but getting worse. As the value of
:23:27. > :23:31.metal has spiked. Be it has become more valuable to steal. Exactly.
:23:31. > :23:35.Lead offered church roof is so valuable that people can get
:23:35. > :23:39.thousands of pounds in cash. That will not be declared to the Revenue.
:23:39. > :23:44.This could build a lot of schools and hospitals. Has parliament been
:23:44. > :23:51.slow to act or are you now, having seen the evidence, on-track?
:23:51. > :23:54.Home Office has a joint task force across departments. What the
:23:54. > :23:58.Government have said is that the cashless system is on the agenda,
:23:58. > :24:01.it is now just finding the right legislative vehicle to do that,
:24:01. > :24:05.whether it is legislation currently going through the Lords or the
:24:05. > :24:11.private member's bill. The Government wants to outlaw cash
:24:11. > :24:15.from the system. Parliament doing the right thing? A thing so.
:24:15. > :24:19.There's public outrage about war memorial sculpture being stolen,
:24:19. > :24:24.the inconvenience when your train is cancelled because tow it -- some
:24:24. > :24:30.toe rag has gone off with copper cabling. But that government is not
:24:30. > :24:35.backing the private member's bill. You have to ban cash payments. If
:24:35. > :24:39.it is all bank transfers, that is how... Are you can trace it. Have
:24:40. > :24:46.you had much metal stolen? Not yet, but I'm starting to get worried
:24:46. > :24:51.about it. It is quite depressing. There's a horrible moral thing
:24:51. > :24:55.about people stealing metal crosses from churches and so on. I wonder
:24:55. > :24:59.if it is linked to the downturn as well. People are more desperate.
:24:59. > :25:05.Yes. Why is the Government not backing this? The at his for the
:25:05. > :25:10.Government spokesman to answer. Will they make time for you?
:25:10. > :25:13.have met with Oliver Henley, we are meeting with the deregulation
:25:13. > :25:17.minister to discuss how the Government can introduce cashless.
:25:17. > :25:21.If you can come back in six months, will it be on the statute book?
:25:21. > :25:25.doubt it, but we will be a lot closer by the second half of 2012.
:25:25. > :25:28.Thank you. Time now for our look back over the
:25:28. > :25:37.big stories of the last seven days - here's Giles with the week in 60
:25:37. > :25:43.Capitalism was in the firing line this week as the country played
:25:43. > :25:47.Spot the difference with leaders calling for a fare economy.
:25:47. > :25:51.Response until capitalism. Popular capitalism. And there were also
:25:51. > :25:56.cross-party calls for Sir Fred Goodwin to be stripped. Of his
:25:56. > :26:02.knighthood. I can promise you now... Ed Miliband angered union
:26:02. > :26:05.supporters by saying Labour could not promise to reverse cuts. For
:26:05. > :26:09.Boris Island could become a reality as grand plans to build the new
:26:09. > :26:14.airport on the Thames estuary gained support from ministers.
:26:14. > :26:18.Figures this week showed more than 370,000 migrants are claiming work-
:26:18. > :26:22.related benefits. And what better way to cheer us all up and building
:26:23. > :26:26.a brand new yacht for the Queen. A leaked letter revealed Michael
:26:26. > :26:32.Gove's support for the plans although he later said it would be
:26:32. > :26:42.privately funded. Should we expect easy Britannia? HMS ASDA? Or
:26:42. > :26:44.
:26:44. > :26:47.There was a time when parts of the Labour Party used to talk about
:26:47. > :26:56.socialism. Now they talk about capitalism with a cuddly adjective
:26:56. > :27:01.in front of it. That is a change. get all due regard for the past! I
:27:01. > :27:05.suppose the big change was in 1994. Using that change is still...
:27:05. > :27:13.think it is in labour's constitution to support the dynamic
:27:13. > :27:17.market economy. It is the new battleground, the new sexy thing to
:27:17. > :27:24.talk but in politics. Everyone wants moral markets, but nobody has
:27:24. > :27:31.come up with a blueprint to do it. Do you get a sense, I certainly do,
:27:31. > :27:34.that this view to strip Fred the shred of his night had? They are
:27:34. > :27:40.building this up with Goldman Sachs announcing �8 billion in bank
:27:40. > :27:46.bonuses. It is a diversion. It is a side issue. I couldn't care less.
:27:46. > :27:50.It will not help either way. Shall we get the 45 billion Royal Bank of
:27:50. > :27:58.Scotland... A couple of hundred 1,000 people would probably like
:27:58. > :28:06.their jobs back. What about the 7% of GDP we lost? Talking about
:28:06. > :28:11.taking it back from the Tories, saying... It is a gesture. It is.
:28:11. > :28:15.It does strike a popular chord. What probably gets me even more is
:28:15. > :28:19.that if you look at the House of Lords, you have expenses cheats, an
:28:19. > :28:24.arsonist, they have jobs for life and they pass laws. At least with
:28:24. > :28:32.Fred the shred, he doesn't get any taxpayers' money. The bank had it.
:28:32. > :28:36.We shall see. I think his knight had his post. -- nightclub.
:28:36. > :28:40.That's all for this week - Jo will be back on Monday with more Daily
:28:40. > :28:43.Politics and she'll be with you for a whole hour, from 12-1. She'll be