Conference Special

:00:46. > :00:51.Good afternoon. Welcome to this day the politics leader's speech

:00:51. > :00:56.conference special. The leader in question of course Ed Miliband, the

:00:56. > :01:00.labour leader walking through the rainy windswept streets of

:01:00. > :01:05.Manchester. A lot hanging on the speech today, not only has he said

:01:05. > :01:11.he will give a sense of direction as to where Labour is going, but he

:01:11. > :01:16.will make us think more kindly about him. His personal poll

:01:16. > :01:21.ratings not that high at the moment, so this is an attempt to connect

:01:21. > :01:28.with the labour faithful and the British public. This will be geared

:01:28. > :01:34.towards the voters as well as the people in Manchester. He had got to

:01:34. > :01:41.get from the Midlands hotel across to this imposing conference centre

:01:41. > :01:45.in the heart of Manchester itself. Labour speeches always on Tuesday

:01:45. > :01:50.afternoon in modern times, that is when the highlight of a Labour

:01:50. > :01:54.conference takes place. I am going to be out and about on the

:01:54. > :02:01.conference floor finding out what delegates want to be hearing, and

:02:01. > :02:11.whether they have heard it. That is coming up. We will be with you for

:02:11. > :02:12.

:02:13. > :02:17.the next two hours. Keeping us company, John Reid. Why do you

:02:17. > :02:23.think Ed Miliband is struggling to connect with the British people?

:02:23. > :02:28.you are talking about the poll this morning, it was a telephone poll

:02:28. > :02:34.and every time you ask in any poll who looks more like prime minister,

:02:34. > :02:40.then people say the Prime Minister. The night before Thatcher won the

:02:40. > :02:45.election, Callaghan was 24% ahead on the same question. Gordon Brown

:02:46. > :02:53.was well ahead of David Cameron on the same question, and yet both of

:02:53. > :02:59.those obviously lost. That is not the question. Appalled at the

:02:59. > :03:02.weekend showed Labour only had a lead of 5%. One last week showed

:03:02. > :03:09.they had a lead of 15%. question was about whether he would

:03:09. > :03:19.make a good prime minister, 63% said no. Another one, do you think

:03:19. > :03:23.Ed Miliband is doing well or badly? 28% said he was doing well. In

:03:23. > :03:28.every poll under the sum they are saying the same thing so why it is

:03:28. > :03:32.he struggling? You will know when you ask people who do you trust

:03:32. > :03:37.most, Ed Miliband comes out ahead of the Prime Minister. Who is more

:03:37. > :03:43.in touch with your feelings of local people's problems, Ed

:03:43. > :03:49.Miliband comes out ahead. That is not to say he is where he would

:03:49. > :03:55.want to be, and I declare an interest. I voted for David

:03:55. > :04:01.Miliband two years ago, but give Ed Miliband his credit because people

:04:01. > :04:05.predicted there would be a feud, we were going to decline and so on. He

:04:05. > :04:10.stabilised the party, he unified the party, he has proved competent

:04:10. > :04:17.enough position on big issues, we are 10% ahead on average on the

:04:17. > :04:22.polls you mention. It may be getting lower. The trend is about

:04:23. > :04:26.10%. Whether that is because we are very attractive or because the

:04:26. > :04:32.government looks incompetent, and then of course there is a question

:04:32. > :04:39.over that. Nevertheless, you have to give him credit. He has scaled

:04:39. > :04:45.the foothills. Has he climbed the mountain? No, he hasn't. The said

:04:45. > :04:49.the poll that asks the question who they trust and the polls show Ed

:04:49. > :04:54.Miliband, but in the key issue of the economy, despite the current

:04:55. > :04:59.state of the British economy, which is not exactly glowing, British

:05:00. > :05:06.people still trust David Cameron and George Osborne more than Ed

:05:06. > :05:09.Miliband or Ed Balls - don't you find that remarkable? 5% more, last

:05:09. > :05:16.year it was 15% more so there has been a movement in that direction

:05:16. > :05:22.as well. If you ask me why that is, I think to be truthful that we lost

:05:22. > :05:27.the argument. I think we should have won the argument the year

:05:27. > :05:31.after the election. When we were electing a new leader and so on,

:05:31. > :05:38.there was an argument raging about why we were in this position in the

:05:38. > :05:44.deficit, and the deficit was not the cause. It was not the cause of

:05:44. > :05:48.a world recession. That is what the Conservatives implied. No, the

:05:48. > :05:52.argument is that because the deficit was still high after 10

:05:52. > :05:58.years of growth as it was at the time, that we weren't in a good

:05:58. > :06:04.enough shape to deal with the financial crisis. That is incorrect.

:06:04. > :06:08.Before 2008, the deficit in the UK was no higher than it had been when

:06:08. > :06:14.the Conservatives left office. It had gone down initially, then came

:06:14. > :06:18.up, but the deficit that we now face was the consequence of a world

:06:18. > :06:23.recession, and in intentional decision to spend money during that

:06:23. > :06:28.early terrible recession in order to stop unemployment spiralling out

:06:28. > :06:32.of control. Having said that, we didn't win that argument in that

:06:32. > :06:37.crucial 12 months after the election. The Conservatives

:06:37. > :06:41.repeatedly implied that it was free-spending Labour who had caused

:06:41. > :06:47.the world recession. Obviously a Labour government would not going

:06:47. > :06:54.to cause a world recession, but they won the argument and therefore

:06:54. > :07:00.Ed Miliband has to overcome that deficit, and in the last 12 months

:07:00. > :07:05.the difference between confidence in the Conservative government's

:07:05. > :07:11.economic policy and our policy has narrowed but they are still ahead.

:07:11. > :07:16.Let me interrupt you because I think we have got Ed Miliband going

:07:16. > :07:22.into the Conference Centre in Manchester. A lot of people are

:07:22. > :07:29.waiting for him anyway. We have spotted him. He has gone down the

:07:29. > :07:36.other way again. Where is he going? This is an excellent shot. You just

:07:36. > :07:41.have to be patient, people at home, and wait. These people are waiting

:07:41. > :07:48.to see if anything comes. It is like Spot the Ball competition. The

:07:48. > :07:56.flashing lights could be at low. Good things are worth waiting for.

:07:56. > :08:01.There he is with his wife, Justine. The speech has been written for

:08:01. > :08:05.quite some time, and to give it a personal torch he has been using

:08:05. > :08:11.her lifelong friend to help him on the personal parts where he wants

:08:11. > :08:18.to get across Ed Miliband this human. That will be part of his

:08:18. > :08:22.mission today. The couple ready for that big conference speech. If he

:08:22. > :08:30.is on time, he will be speaking in about five minutes.

:08:30. > :08:35.Let us get a sense of the mood in the build-up to the speech, and

:08:35. > :08:40.speak to two journalists. This has been billed as a getting to know Ed

:08:40. > :08:45.Miliband speech - he has a lot to do to persuade people they know

:08:45. > :08:49.that he is a prime minister in waiting. It is true. I was

:08:49. > :08:54.listening to John Reid wrangling about polling figures, but that

:08:54. > :09:00.evidence does matter and it is worrying to Ed Miliband and his

:09:00. > :09:05.team. We ran a poll at the weekend asking if people could imagine him

:09:05. > :09:10.as Prime Minister and less than 30% people cord. It is what I call the

:09:10. > :09:15.closing your eyes test. Voters have to imagine him standing on the

:09:15. > :09:18.threshold of Number 10. It is always difficult for leaders of the

:09:18. > :09:22.opposition, but one of his important tasks this afternoon is

:09:22. > :09:28.that more people by the end of this afternoon could imagine Prime

:09:28. > :09:32.Minister Ed Miliband. Does that mean that this speech has to be

:09:32. > :09:36.less about Concepts, predators and producers, and more about straight

:09:36. > :09:41.forward message to the people in the hall and out in the country?

:09:41. > :09:49.The exactly, he can't do another sociology essay. He has got to

:09:49. > :09:54.spring to life. The word is that he will spring to life, he will do the

:09:54. > :09:59.walking and talking been showing he can move without any strings. The

:09:59. > :10:04.drawback is that he will have to see if he can time his speech. If

:10:04. > :10:09.not, we might be here until 6 o'clock, reminiscing how tough he

:10:09. > :10:15.had it in his comprehensive. This is a big gamble. It is a difficult

:10:15. > :10:20.thing to do if you are not trained as a stage actor. If he pulls it

:10:20. > :10:24.off it will help. He you are right about the abstract concept. I hope

:10:24. > :10:29.somebody went through that speech and whenever they found an abstract

:10:29. > :10:34.noun, they took it out. I think it is refreshing that he is interested

:10:34. > :10:38.in political ideas like responsible capitalism, but then you have to

:10:38. > :10:43.turn it into language taking it out of the seminar room and taking it

:10:43. > :10:50.into people's living rooms, which means talking in populist language.

:10:50. > :10:55.Mrs Thatcher did not quote literature in speeches, instead she

:10:55. > :10:58.told people she would sell their council houses. If you look at the

:10:58. > :11:03.back row with the economy in the doldrums, coalition having a string

:11:03. > :11:10.of difficulties since the Budget, it is a big opportunity for him.

:11:10. > :11:16.Fraser Nelson talks about a gamble, he has got to seize it, hasn't he?

:11:16. > :11:23.Sure, and we will see just here how he manages to connect. What will he

:11:23. > :11:28.do to say we are on your side? I suspect there will be a lot of hits

:11:28. > :11:33.that the Tories. We had Tom Watson gearing their more saying we are

:11:33. > :11:41.ordinary people talking ordinary language, unlike these Etonians. I

:11:41. > :11:49.think in this speech we will hear a lot of attacks at the Tories saying

:11:49. > :11:53.they are out of touch. So are we going to hear a lot about the

:11:53. > :11:58.Tories' or criticisms, but what will he say about Labour and where

:11:58. > :12:04.they are going? Doesn't he need to build up the narrative for Labour?

:12:04. > :12:09.I think he does. Some people laugh saying where are the policies? But

:12:09. > :12:15.one of the advantages for Labour is they know where the finishing line

:12:15. > :12:25.is for this Parliament, and it is still some time away in the spring

:12:25. > :12:28.of 2015. If you have any good ideas in your manifesto, the coalition

:12:28. > :12:32.we'll nick it, if they have any sense. You start to come forward

:12:32. > :12:41.with some emblematic policies to illustrate your values and your

:12:41. > :12:48.direction of travel. Thank you, enjoy the speech.

:12:49. > :12:55.Shall we resume our Wrangle? They have civilised conversations, we

:12:55. > :13:04.have wrangling. Let me come back to this position of Ed Miliband in

:13:04. > :13:09.trying to connect with the country. Trying to portray him as an

:13:09. > :13:14.ordinary comprehensive school chap, we know that is not true. He does

:13:14. > :13:20.come from a different kind of elite from David Cameron, a different

:13:20. > :13:26.kind of social elite, but it was a pretty elitist background. I'm sure

:13:26. > :13:34.when you were a child you didn't have dinner with Tony Benn, or E P

:13:34. > :13:39.Thompson. In the case of Tony, perhaps I am lucky. The idea of

:13:39. > :13:47.showing somebody in terms of the personality and background is not

:13:47. > :13:52.new. Sue Hodson produced the famous movie... John Major went back to

:13:52. > :13:59.Brixton. In a chauffeur-driven car, passing the house he grow up in.

:13:59. > :14:04.You are right, Ed Miliband came from a family, which in many ways

:14:04. > :14:07.was disadvantaged because it was an immigrant family, book in some ways

:14:07. > :14:14.was academically and intellectually separate from the mainstream of

:14:14. > :14:17.people. That is not a bad idea. There is a degree of anti-

:14:17. > :14:22.intellectualism goes on, I don't think it should be a prerequisite

:14:22. > :14:28.of the Prime Minister that you are stupid and incapable of analysis.

:14:29. > :14:32.The complaint is that he does come from, in his own way, different

:14:32. > :14:37.from David Cameron, but he does come from a privileged background

:14:37. > :14:44.in a different way, so why deny it? This is where I would agree with

:14:44. > :14:49.what Andrew said, the keep in my experience, the keep in political

:14:49. > :14:54.communication is the capacity to think in an intellectual complex

:14:54. > :15:01.fashion, but to translate that into language with which people can

:15:01. > :15:07.relate and respond to. Which Tony Blair was good at it.

:15:07. > :15:12.was a master at it. Clinton was a master as well. Margaret Thatcher

:15:12. > :15:16.was not bad either. And yet she was derided before she was Prime

:15:16. > :15:26.Minister as being a stupid woman who spoke in over simplistic ways.

:15:26. > :15:27.

:15:27. > :15:33.Nick Robinson is in Manchester for us. I guess what we have been told

:15:33. > :15:37.- we have been told quite a lot about this Speech. We will get a

:15:37. > :15:42.sense of direction about where Labour is going to go under Mr

:15:42. > :15:49.Miliband. We are going to get a sense of Mr Miliband, the man and

:15:49. > :15:54.where he comes from? And above all, we will get a slogan, a slogan that

:15:54. > :16:04.has enormous historical resonance, not least in this city. 100 yards

:16:04. > :16:11.that way is the site of what was Manchester's Free Trade Hall. Not

:16:11. > :16:16.just the suffragettes, but Benjamin Disraeli, he declared he was in

:16:16. > :16:22.favour of one nation values. Today, rather cheekily, Ed Miliband will

:16:23. > :16:27.try and claim that historic Tory label of "one nation" and use it

:16:27. > :16:31.for himself, claiming David Cameron and the coalition are dividing the

:16:31. > :16:41.nation and only he and Labour can bring it together again. Why is he

:16:41. > :16:43.

:16:43. > :16:50.doing that? I saw that in the draft exerts we got -- draft excerpts we

:16:50. > :16:55.got? Why will that resonate for Labour in the country? Those two

:16:55. > :17:00.words don't mean a whole lot to many people watching this programme.

:17:00. > :17:05.Yet, they have got enormous political historical resonance.

:17:05. > :17:08.They are a bit of symbolism. They were symbolic in the 1980s for

:17:08. > :17:12.those Tories who opposed Mrs Thatcher. They were a code of

:17:12. > :17:15.saying, "We are in favour of keeping the country together, not

:17:15. > :17:19.dividing it by the economic policies of the time." More left-

:17:19. > :17:23.wing than Mrs Thatcher. It was a bit of code borrowed by Tony Blair

:17:23. > :17:28.in the 1990s who repeatedly described himself as "one nation"

:17:28. > :17:31.as a way of saying it was not older, not the Labour Party that divided

:17:31. > :17:37.the country between the bosses and the workers, between North and

:17:37. > :17:40.South, he was saying a Labour Party that brought people together. Ed

:17:40. > :17:46.Miliband is doing two things: One dealing with the suggestion that he

:17:46. > :17:50.is Red Ed, he is a left-wing Leader of the Labour Party, by saying, "No,

:17:50. > :17:54.I'm taking the language of the centre." Secondly, trying to occupy

:17:54. > :18:00.territory that he senses David Cameron has vacated, by moving away

:18:00. > :18:06.from, if you like, the hug a hoodie, or hug a husky early Cameron we saw

:18:06. > :18:14.when he was focusing on modernising his party. I don't think Mr

:18:14. > :18:18.Disraeli ever hugged a hoodie or a husky in the time. The Labour

:18:18. > :18:22.analysis of moving on to one nation ground, Labour believes Mr Cameron,

:18:22. > :18:27.he is a very right-wing Prime Minister. I'm not sure the rest of

:18:27. > :18:31.the country - they may not like him, that is another matter - but I

:18:31. > :18:36.don't think they don't regard him as Thatcherite. They probably do

:18:36. > :18:39.see him as within the one nation tradition of Tory politicians?

:18:39. > :18:44.think Ed Miliband will try and challenge that today. Yes. He will

:18:44. > :18:48.argue the cuts programme is not only not working in its own right,

:18:48. > :18:53.in other words you will hear the Labour Leader say repeatedly,

:18:53. > :18:58."Borrowing is going up this year rather than going down" but he will

:18:58. > :19:08.claim that David Cameron has abandoned those one nation Tory

:19:08. > :19:13.clothes. He used to talk about being a green Tory, now he isn't.

:19:13. > :19:16.Now, of course, look, the difficulty with a phrase like "one

:19:16. > :19:22.nation", it can mean virtually anything to anybody. If you are a

:19:22. > :19:28.leader who has decided, as Ed Miliband has, not to spell out much

:19:28. > :19:37.in the way of new policy, not to give your prospectus and because

:19:37. > :19:40.you haven't a clue what the economy will look like by the next general

:19:40. > :19:45.election, then you have to go for some sort of narrative. That is

:19:45. > :19:50.what he is doing. He is giving us a narrative about himself. Will we

:19:50. > :19:54.get more of a sense - we are not looking for fast and firm policies.

:19:54. > :19:57.The election is two-and-a-half years away. Will we get a sense of

:19:58. > :20:03.the direction that a Labour Government under Mr Miliband would

:20:03. > :20:07.take? Only in the broadest terms, I think. There is a bit of a debate

:20:07. > :20:12.going on in the margins of this Conference about whether Ed

:20:12. > :20:15.Miliband and the Labour Party have given us quite a lot of a sense of

:20:15. > :20:18.that direction, or not. The argument in their favour is to say

:20:18. > :20:22.by saying you will take on the banks, which he will say again

:20:22. > :20:26.today, or the energy companies, or the pension companies, you are

:20:26. > :20:30.giving people an impression of the way you will go. You are above all

:20:30. > :20:35.saying, "This is how you can make a difference to people's lives as a

:20:35. > :20:43.centre-left party without relying on turning on the top of public

:20:43. > :20:49.spending." The counter is one that will say, "No Government to the

:20:49. > :20:53.left of the centre-left has had to deal with so little public money.

:20:53. > :20:55.There are extraordinarily dramatic choices that have to be made in

:20:55. > :20:59.public spending." If you don't spell that out, the public will

:20:59. > :21:03.have no real idea what you will do in office. Ed Miliband doesn't need

:21:03. > :21:07.to do that. He needs to highlight where the Government has gone wrong.

:21:07. > :21:12.He needs to resell himself and his personal story to the public. He

:21:12. > :21:16.needs to give a broad sense of direction. We may have to jump into

:21:16. > :21:20.the Hall quite soon - it is getting close to the start of the speech.

:21:20. > :21:24.There was a poll that showed the Labour lead was down to five points.

:21:24. > :21:29.Another one today showing it down to three points. Are they

:21:30. > :21:33.dismissing these polls as rogues? Is there some concern about a

:21:33. > :21:43.dwindling Labour lead? I'm sorry, I will have to - hold that question.

:21:43. > :21:47.I will come back and get you. We will have to go into the Hall. They

:21:47. > :21:52.are giving him a standing ovation. There he is. A nice blue background

:21:52. > :21:59.- I suppose that goes with the one nation theme of his speech. That is

:21:59. > :22:09.Mrs Miliband there. We will see if Fraser Nelson has got it right. It

:22:09. > :22:10.

:22:10. > :22:17.looks like he is going to walk around the lectern. APPLAUSE

:22:17. > :22:25.Andy Burnham applauding him. The Shadow Health Secretary. A packed

:22:25. > :22:27.hall. It's in an historic part of Manchester, this. Here is the

:22:27. > :22:34.Leader of the Opposition, Ed Miliband.

:22:34. > :22:40.It is great to be in Labour Manchester. APPLAUSE You know,

:22:40. > :22:49.Manchester has special memories for me. Two years ago, I was elected

:22:49. > :22:54.the leader of this party. I'm older - I feel a lot older actually!

:22:54. > :23:04.LAUGHTER I hope I'm a bit wiser. I am prouder than ever to be the

:23:04. > :23:09.leader of the Labour Party. APPLAUSE

:23:09. > :23:15.You may have noticed that doing this job you get called some names.

:23:15. > :23:22.Some of them nice. Some of them not so nice. Let me tell you my

:23:22. > :23:26.favourite. It was when Mitt Romney came to Britain and called me "Mr

:23:26. > :23:31.Leader". LAUGHTER I don't know about you, but I think it has a

:23:31. > :23:39.certain ring to it myself. It's sort of half-way to North Korea.

:23:39. > :23:44.Mitt, thanks a lot for that(!) Look, let me tell you a little insight

:23:44. > :23:48.into Conference. I always look forward to Conference. But the

:23:48. > :23:55.leader's speech, as previous leaders will attest, can be a bit

:23:55. > :23:59.of a trial. You get all kinds of advice from people. Say this, don't

:23:59. > :24:05.say that, smile here, don't smile there, stand there, don't stand

:24:05. > :24:10.there. Thanks, Tony, Gordon and Neil for that! LAUGHTER But

:24:10. > :24:14.sometimes you get a bit fed up with it as a leader. So the other day -

:24:14. > :24:19.and this is a true story - I decided that to get away from it

:24:19. > :24:24.all, the speech-writing - I would go for a walk with my three-year-

:24:24. > :24:30.old son, Daniel. It was a gorgeous late summer day. So we went out, I

:24:30. > :24:35.wanted to go to the park. Here's the first thing he said to me.

:24:35. > :24:40."Daddy, I can help you with your speech." I was like, "Not you as

:24:40. > :24:46.well!" Look, he is a Miliband after all. LAUGHTER He said to me, "Daddy,

:24:46. > :24:49.you can't do it on your own." This is true. I said, "That is a good

:24:49. > :24:56.Labour insight. You can't do it on your own. Daniel, what do you want

:24:56. > :25:02.in my speech?" He said, "I want dinosaurs!" LAUGHTER He said, "I

:25:03. > :25:08.want dinosaurs. I want flying dinosaurs. I want dinosaurs that

:25:08. > :25:18.eat people, daddy." I said, "No, Daniel, we tried predators last

:25:18. > :25:21.

:25:21. > :25:25.year!" APPLAUSE Look, only one problem - where's my speech? I want

:25:25. > :25:30.to do something different today. I want to tell you my story. I want

:25:30. > :25:35.to tell you who I am, what I believe and why I have a deep

:25:35. > :25:41.conviction that together we can change this country. My conviction

:25:41. > :25:46.is rooted in my family's story. A story that started 1,000 miles from

:25:46. > :25:52.here. The Milibands haven't sat under the same oak tree for the

:25:52. > :25:57.last 500 years. Both of my parents came to Britain as immigrants.

:25:57. > :26:03.Jewish refugees from the Nazis. I know I would not be standing on

:26:03. > :26:12.this stage today without the compassion and tolerance of our

:26:12. > :26:19.great country, Great Britain. APPLAUSE

:26:19. > :26:25.You know, my parents saw Britain rebuilt after the Second World War.

:26:25. > :26:29.I was born in my local National Health Service hospital. The same

:26:29. > :26:34.hospital my two sons would later be born in. As you saw in the film, I

:26:34. > :26:44.went to my local school, I went to my local comprehensive with people

:26:44. > :26:47.from all backgrounds. I still teaching I got at that school. And

:26:47. > :26:57.one of my teachers, my English teacher, Chris Dunn, is here with

:26:57. > :26:59.

:26:59. > :27:03.us today. Thank you, Chris, and to all of the teachers. APPLAUSE It

:27:03. > :27:09.was a really tough school. But order was kept by one of the

:27:09. > :27:14.scariest head mistresses you could possibly imagine, Mrs Jenkins. You

:27:14. > :27:19.know what, I learnt at my school about a lot more than how to pass

:27:19. > :27:24.exams. I learnt how to get on with people from all backgrounds,

:27:24. > :27:34.whoever they were. I wouldn't be standing on this stage today

:27:34. > :27:40.without my comprehensive school education. APPLAUSE

:27:40. > :27:44.So, Britain gave me, gave my family, a great gift that my parents never

:27:44. > :27:50.had, a safe and secure childhood. You know, my parents didn't talk

:27:50. > :27:58.much about their early lives. It was too painful. It hurt too much.

:27:58. > :28:01.The pain of those they lost, the guilt of survivors. But I believe

:28:01. > :28:05.that their experience meant they brought up both David and myself

:28:05. > :28:11.differently as a result. Having struggled for life itself, they

:28:11. > :28:17.instilled in us a sense of duty to ease the struggles of others. And

:28:17. > :28:22.this came not just from my parents' wartime experience, it came from

:28:22. > :28:25.the daily fabric of our childhood. There were toys and games, rows

:28:25. > :28:33.about homework. I was a Dallas fan, believe it or not, which didn't go

:28:33. > :28:38.down well with my Dad, as you can imagine! LAUGHTER So of course

:28:38. > :28:42.there were the normal things. But every upbringing is special. And

:28:42. > :28:47.mine was special because of the place of politics within it. When I

:28:47. > :28:54.was 12 years old, I met a South African friend of my parents. Her

:28:54. > :28:59.name was Ruth First. The image I remember is of somebody full of

:28:59. > :29:08.life, full of laughter, and then I remember a few months later coming

:29:08. > :29:12.down to breakfast and seeing my Mum in tears. Ruth had been murdered by

:29:12. > :29:14.a letter bomb from the South African Secret Police, murdered for

:29:14. > :29:19.being part of the anti-apartheid movement. I didn't understand the

:29:19. > :29:25.ins and outs of it. I was shocked, I was angry. I knew that wasn't the

:29:25. > :29:32.way the world was meant to be. I knew I had a duty to do something

:29:32. > :29:39.about it. It is this upbringing that has made me who I am. A person

:29:39. > :29:44.of faith. Not a religious faith, but a faith none the less. A faith

:29:44. > :29:49.that I believe many religious people would recognise. So here is

:29:49. > :29:59.my faith. I believe we have a duty to leave the world a better place

:29:59. > :29:59.

:29:59. > :30:03.than we found it. I believe we cannot shrug... APPLAUSE

:30:03. > :30:09.I believe we cannot shrug our shoulders at injustice and say,

:30:09. > :30:18."That is the way the world is." I believe that we can overcome any

:30:19. > :30:26.odds if we come together as people. That is how... You see, that is how

:30:26. > :30:31.my Mum survived the war. The kindness of strangers. Nuns in a

:30:31. > :30:37.convent who took her in and sheltered her from the Nazis. They

:30:37. > :30:42.took in a Jewish girl at risk to themselves. It is what my Dad found

:30:42. > :30:48.when he came to these shores and joined the Royal Navy and was part

:30:49. > :30:52.of Britain winning the war. Now, of course, my parents didn't tell me

:30:52. > :30:56.what career to go into. My late father, as some of you know,

:30:56. > :31:06.wouldn't agree with many of the things I stand for. He would have

:31:06. > :31:11.

:31:11. > :31:21.He would have been a little bit disappointed that it was untrue. My

:31:21. > :31:21.

:31:21. > :31:25.mum probably doesn't agree with me either, but like most mothers is

:31:25. > :31:30.too kind to say so. I wasn't certain I wanted to be a politician

:31:30. > :31:34.but I believe the best way to be true to my faith and give back to

:31:34. > :31:41.Britain is through politics. That is not a fashionable view today,

:31:41. > :31:47.because millions of people have given up on politics. They think we

:31:47. > :31:57.are all the same. I guess you could say I'm out to prove them wrong.

:31:57. > :32:02.

:32:02. > :32:10.That is who I am. That is who I am, that is what I

:32:10. > :32:15.believe, that is my faith. I know who Britain, who I need to serve in

:32:15. > :32:19.Britain with my faith. It is the people I have met on my journey as

:32:19. > :32:25.leader of the opposition, the people who come up to me on trains,

:32:25. > :32:30.in the street, in shops, who ask me about what the Labour Party is

:32:30. > :32:37.going to do for them and tell me the stories of their lives. It is

:32:37. > :32:42.for them, the people I have met on my journey, that today's speech is

:32:42. > :32:49.4. I think of a woman I met earlier this year, she was brimming with

:32:49. > :32:53.hopes and ambitions for the future. She was full of life, she was fall-

:32:53. > :33:03.off desire to get on and do the best for herself. Then she told me

:33:03. > :33:08.her story. She had sent off her CV to 137 employers and she had not

:33:08. > :33:13.had a reply from any of them. Many of you in this audience will know

:33:14. > :33:19.people in the same position. Just think how that crushes the hopes of

:33:19. > :33:22.a generation. I want to talk to her, to a generation of young people who

:33:22. > :33:32.feel that Britain under this government is not offering them the

:33:32. > :33:36.

:33:36. > :33:41.future. I think back to the small

:33:41. > :33:46.businessman I met in July, a proud man called Alan Henderson, the

:33:46. > :33:52.small businessman. Let me tell you his story. He spent 40 years

:33:52. > :33:58.building up his sign making business. 40 years. He told me his

:33:58. > :34:03.story. He went to see his bank manager in 1972 at his local high-

:34:03. > :34:09.street bank. He got a loan and he started his business, but something

:34:09. > :34:15.terrible happened to Alan Henderson and his family a few years back. He

:34:15. > :34:19.was ripped off by the bank he had been with all that time and his

:34:19. > :34:23.family have been living through a nightmare ever since. I want to

:34:23. > :34:29.talk to him and the people of Britain who feel they are at the

:34:29. > :34:33.mercy of forces beyond their control. I want to talk to the

:34:33. > :34:39.people of this country who have always thought of themselves as

:34:39. > :34:44.comfortably off, but now find themselves struggling to make ends

:34:44. > :34:49.meet. They ask why is it that when the oil price goes up, the petrol

:34:49. > :34:54.price goes up, but when the oil price comes down the petrol price

:34:54. > :35:04.just stays the same? May ask why is it that the gas and electricity

:35:04. > :35:08.

:35:08. > :35:18.bills just go off -- go up? An why can the privatised train companies

:35:18. > :35:18.

:35:18. > :35:25.can make so much profit at the same time as the fares rising every year.

:35:25. > :35:30.They ask why is it? They think the system just doesn't work for them.

:35:30. > :35:34.And you know what? They are right, it doesn't. It doesn't work for

:35:34. > :35:38.them because of cosy cartels and powerful interests that the

:35:38. > :35:42.government have not cut down to size. I want to talk to them and

:35:42. > :35:48.the millions of people across our country who feel they don't get a

:35:48. > :35:57.fair crack of the whip. I want to say to them, yes our problems are

:35:57. > :36:02.deep, but they can be overcome. The problems about whom Britain is won

:36:02. > :36:08.4 and who prospers within it. One rule for those at the top, another

:36:08. > :36:12.for everybody else. Two nations, not one. I want to say to them

:36:12. > :36:17.today it is not the Britain you believe in, not the Britain I

:36:17. > :36:27.believe in, not the Britain this party will ever be satisfied with.

:36:27. > :36:34.

:36:34. > :36:39.Friends, we are going to change it, and here is how. My faith that we

:36:39. > :36:45.can start with the inner strength of us as a country. The problem is

:36:45. > :36:55.not the British people. Just think about the Olympics and the

:36:55. > :36:57.

:36:57. > :37:02.Paralympic Games. It was a triumph for Britain. Why did we succeed? We

:37:02. > :37:10.succeeded because of our outstanding athletes. From Zara

:37:10. > :37:18.Phillips, the granddaughter of a parachuting Queen, to a boy born in

:37:18. > :37:26.Somalia called Mo Farah. Mo Farah, a true Brit, a true hero to our

:37:26. > :37:36.country. We succeeded because of the outstanding volunteers, the

:37:36. > :37:47.

:37:47. > :37:52.game's makers who we are here with They put a mirror up to Britain and

:37:52. > :37:56.showed the best of ourselves. We succeeded because of our

:37:56. > :38:01.outstanding troops, many of whom were drafted in at the last minute,

:38:01. > :38:08.and let's today pay tribute to their bravery, their courage and

:38:08. > :38:18.sacrifice in Afghanistan and all round the world.

:38:18. > :38:23.

:38:23. > :38:30.Let's say to them, just as you do our duty by us in the most

:38:30. > :38:40.courageous way possible, so we will always do our duty by you, both in

:38:40. > :38:44.

:38:44. > :38:50.military and civilian life. We succeeded because of our

:38:50. > :38:53.outstanding police, and let us in this city of Manchester show our

:38:53. > :39:03.appreciation for what the extraordinary policemen and women

:39:03. > :39:10.

:39:10. > :39:17.of our country do for our country. And we succeeded, and this is a

:39:17. > :39:24.real lesson, we succeeded because of a group of individuals who saw

:39:24. > :39:32.the odds against London's bid and thought never mind the orchids. We

:39:32. > :39:42.are going to pioneer the bidding for London. We are going to win the

:39:42. > :39:47.

:39:47. > :39:51.bid for London, from Sebastian Coe to our very own game Tessa Jowell.

:39:51. > :39:58.You know what, friends? We succeeded because of one reason

:39:58. > :40:05.more than any other, we succeeded because of us. We succeeded because

:40:06. > :40:09.of us. Us, the British people. Us, who welcome the athletes from

:40:09. > :40:14.abroad, who cheer them on, who found ourselves talking to each

:40:14. > :40:18.other every morning about what had happened in the Olympics the night

:40:18. > :40:23.before in a way we hadn't spoken to each other before. We succeeded

:40:23. > :40:29.because we came together as a country, we worked together as a

:40:29. > :40:35.country. That is why we achieved more than we imagined possible. You

:40:35. > :40:42.know, I will just tell you this. I can't remember a time like it in

:40:42. > :40:47.the whole history of my lifetime. I can't remember a time like it. That

:40:47. > :40:52.sense of a country united, that sense of a country that felt it was

:40:52. > :41:02.together. That is the spirit this Labour Party believes in.

:41:02. > :41:07.

:41:07. > :41:16.I may not remember that spirit, but that spirit has echoed through

:41:17. > :41:23.British history. 140 years ago, to the year, another leader of the

:41:23. > :41:33.opposition gave a speech. It was in the free trade war that used to

:41:33. > :41:38.stand opposite this building. His name was Benjamin Disraeli, he was

:41:38. > :41:48.a Tory, but don't let that put you off, just for a minute. His speech

:41:48. > :41:50.

:41:50. > :41:56.took over three hours to deliver and he... Don't worry! And he drank

:41:56. > :42:01.two whole bottles of brandy while delivering it. That is true! I want

:42:01. > :42:06.to say I know a speech that long would kill you, and the brandy

:42:06. > :42:12.would definitely kill me, but let's remember what he was celebrated for.

:42:12. > :42:16.It was a vision of Britain, where patriotism, loyalty, dedication to

:42:16. > :42:21.the common cause courses through the veins of everyone and nobody

:42:21. > :42:28.feels left out. It was a vision of Britain coming together to overcome

:42:28. > :42:33.the challenge as we face. Disraeli called it one nation. We heard that

:42:33. > :42:39.phrase again as the country came together again to defeat fascism,

:42:39. > :42:49.and again as the Labour government rebuilt Britain after the war.

:42:49. > :42:57.

:42:57. > :43:05.Friends, I didn't become leader of the Labour Party to reinvent the

:43:05. > :43:11.world of Disraeli, but I do believe in that spirit of one nation. One

:43:11. > :43:18.nation, a country where everyone has a stake. One nation, a country

:43:18. > :43:23.where prosperity is shared fairly, One nation where we have a shared

:43:23. > :43:28.destiny, and a common life that we lead together. That is my vision of

:43:28. > :43:38.one nation. That is my vision of Britain. That is the Britain we

:43:38. > :43:46.

:43:46. > :43:53.must become. And here is the genius of one nation. It doesn't just tell

:43:53. > :43:59.us the country we can be, it tells us how we can rebuild. We won the

:43:59. > :44:04.war because we were one nation, we built the piece because the

:44:04. > :44:08.Government understood we needed to be one nation. We have only come

:44:08. > :44:12.through the storm because we were one nation, but too often

:44:12. > :44:18.governments have forgotten that lesson. With 1 million young people

:44:18. > :44:23.out of work, we just can't succeed as a country. With the gap between

:44:23. > :44:29.rich and poor growing wider, we just can't succeed as a country.

:44:29. > :44:33.With millions of people feeling that hard work and effort are not

:44:33. > :44:40.rewarded, we just can't succeed as a contrary. And with so many people

:44:40. > :44:45.having been told for so long that the only way to get on is to be on

:44:45. > :44:55.your own, in it for yourself, we just can't succeed as a country.

:44:55. > :44:55.

:44:56. > :45:00.Yes, friends... To come through the storm, to

:45:00. > :45:05.overcome the challenges we face, we must rediscover that spirit. That

:45:05. > :45:11.spirit that British people never forgot, that spirit of one nation.

:45:11. > :45:21.One nation, a country where everyone plays their part, a

:45:21. > :45:27.

:45:27. > :45:34.APPLAUSE So, here is the big question of

:45:34. > :45:40.today. Who can make us one nation? Who can bring Britain together?

:45:40. > :45:44.What about the Tories? LAUGHTER What about the Tories? I didn't

:45:44. > :45:48.hear you! What about the Tories? AUDIENCE:

:45:49. > :45:53.Let me explain why. I want to talk very directly to those who voted

:45:53. > :46:00.for David Cameron at the last general election. I understand why

:46:00. > :46:03.you voted for him. I understand why you turned away from the last

:46:03. > :46:08.Labour Government. This Government took power in difficult economic

:46:08. > :46:13.times. It was a country still coming to terms with the financial

:46:13. > :46:19.crisis. A financial crisis that has afflicted every country around the

:46:19. > :46:26.world. I understand why you were willing to give David Cameron the

:46:26. > :46:30.benefit of the doubt. But I think we've had long enough to make a

:46:31. > :46:34.judgment. Long enough to make a judgment because they have turned a

:46:34. > :46:38.recovery into the longest double- dip recession since the war.

:46:39. > :46:44.Because there are more people looking for work for longer than at

:46:44. > :46:54.any time since the last time there was a Conservative Government.

:46:54. > :46:56.

:46:56. > :47:00.APPLAUSE And here is the other thing. What about borrowing?

:47:01. > :47:06.Borrowing. The thing they said was their number one priority. This

:47:06. > :47:11.year, borrowing is rising, not falling. Let me say that again.

:47:11. > :47:15.Borrowing, the thing they said was the most important priority, the

:47:15. > :47:20.reason they were elected. It is rising, not falling. Not because

:47:20. > :47:24.there hasn't been pain and tax rises and cuts affecting every

:47:24. > :47:29.family in this country. Not because they didn't want to cut borrowing -

:47:29. > :47:35.they did. Not because your services aren't getting worse - they are.

:47:35. > :47:40.But because if you stop an economy growing, then it leaves more people

:47:40. > :47:46.out of work claiming benefits, not paying taxes, businesses struggle,

:47:47. > :47:50.so they are not paying taxes. As a result, borrowing goes up.

:47:50. > :47:54.Borrowing - not to invest in schools and hospitals and transport

:47:54. > :47:59.and education, but borrowing to keep people idle. So the next time

:47:59. > :48:03.you hear a Conservative say to you, "Labour would increase borrowing"

:48:03. > :48:13.just remember it is THIS Government that is increasing borrowing this

:48:13. > :48:22.

:48:22. > :48:28.year. APPLAUSE So what have we seen? We have seen

:48:28. > :48:33.recession, higher unemployment, higher borrowing. I don't think

:48:33. > :48:37.that's what people were promised. Look, there will be some people who

:48:37. > :48:41.say - and this is an important argument - some people will say,

:48:41. > :48:48."Well, there is short-term pain, but it's worth it for the long-term

:48:48. > :48:51.gain." I'm afraid the opposite is true. You see, the longer you have

:48:51. > :48:55.low growth in our country, the bigger the debt hole becomes for

:48:55. > :49:00.the future and the bigger our problems will be in the future. The

:49:00. > :49:04.longer a young person is out of work, that's not just bad for their

:49:04. > :49:09.prospects now, it is bad for their prospects for the whole of the rest

:49:09. > :49:14.of their lives. If a small business goes under during the recession, it

:49:14. > :49:20.can't just get up and running again during the recovery. So when David

:49:20. > :49:28.Cameron says to you, "Well, let's carry on as we are and wait for

:49:28. > :49:38.something to turn up" don't believe him. Don't believe him. If the

:49:38. > :49:46.medicine is not working, you change the medicine. I will tell you...

:49:46. > :49:56.APPLAUSE And friends, I will tell you what else you change. You

:49:56. > :50:01.

:50:01. > :50:05.change the doctor, too. That is Look around you, look around you.

:50:05. > :50:10.You know, the problem is the British people are paying the price

:50:10. > :50:16.of this Government's failure. You are going to the petrol station and

:50:16. > :50:20.not filling up your tank because you can't afford it. Your tax

:50:20. > :50:24.credits are being cut because the Government says it can't afford it.

:50:25. > :50:31.Your frail Mum and Dad are not getting the care they need because

:50:31. > :50:37.the Government says it can't afford it. But there are some things this

:50:37. > :50:41.Government can afford. The wrong things. What do they think at this

:50:41. > :50:47.most difficult economic time is going to get us out of our

:50:48. > :50:53.difficulties? What do they choose as their priority? A tax cut for

:50:53. > :51:01.millionaires. A tax cut for millionaires! Next April, David

:51:01. > :51:06.Cameron will be writing a cheque for �40,000 to each and every

:51:06. > :51:14.millionaire in Britain. Not just for one year, but each and every

:51:14. > :51:19.year. That is more than the average person earns in a whole year. At

:51:19. > :51:24.the same time as they are imposing a tax on pensioners next April.

:51:24. > :51:32.Friends, we, the Labour Party, the country knows it is wrong, it is

:51:32. > :51:38.wrong what they are doing. It shows their priorities. Here is the worst

:51:38. > :51:47.part. David Cameron isn't just writing the cheques, he's receiving

:51:47. > :51:57.one. LAUGHTER He is going to be getting the millionaires' tax cut!

:51:57. > :51:57.

:51:57. > :52:02.APPLAUSE So next week, maybe Mr Cameron can tell us how much is he

:52:02. > :52:08.awarding himself a tax cut? How much is that tax cut he's awarding

:52:08. > :52:11.himself for a job I think he thinks is a job well done? How many of his

:52:11. > :52:17.other Cabinet colleagues have cheques in the post from the

:52:17. > :52:27.millionaires' tax cut? How can he justify this unfairness in Britain

:52:27. > :52:30.

:52:30. > :52:34.2012? APPLAUSE Of course, let's not forget this

:52:34. > :52:44.tax cut wouldn't be happening without Nick Clegg and the Liberal

:52:44. > :52:54.Democrats. Isn't it shameful that the party that supported, that

:52:54. > :52:56.

:52:56. > :53:00.implemented the People's Budget of 1909, is supporting the

:53:00. > :53:04.millionaires' budget of 2012? That is the reality in Britain today. It

:53:04. > :53:08.is a rebate for the top. It is a rip-off for everybody else. It is a

:53:08. > :53:14.recovery for the top. It is a recession for everybody else. This

:53:14. > :53:24.Prime Minister said, "We are all in it together." Don't let him ever

:53:24. > :53:26.

:53:26. > :53:30.tell us again, "We are all in this together." Friends, I say this: You

:53:30. > :53:35.can't be a one nation Prime Minister if you raise taxes on

:53:35. > :53:39.ordinary families and cut taxes for millionaires. You can't be a one

:53:39. > :53:43.nation Prime Minister if all you do is seek to divide the country,

:53:43. > :53:49.divide the country between North and South, public and private,

:53:49. > :53:53.those who can work and those who can't work. And you can't be a one

:53:53. > :54:03.nation Prime Minister if your Chief Whip insults the great police

:54:03. > :54:24.

:54:24. > :54:31.officers of our country by calling There's one thing that this

:54:31. > :54:39.Government might have claimed to be good at. That's competence.

:54:39. > :54:45.LAUGHTER After all, they think they are born to rule. So maybe they

:54:45. > :54:51.would be good at it. Have you ever seen a more incompetent, hopeless,

:54:51. > :54:54.out of touch, U-turning, pledge- breaking, make it up as you go

:54:54. > :55:04.along, back of the envelope, miserable shower than this Prime

:55:04. > :55:33.

:55:33. > :55:38.There's more. There's more. There's more. There's more. Not quite

:55:38. > :55:42.Disraeli, but there's more! LAUGHTER What have we had? We've

:55:42. > :55:46.had the caravan tax. We have had the churches tax. We have had the

:55:46. > :55:56.pasty tax. We have had the granny tax. We have had panic at the pumps.

:55:56. > :55:57.

:55:57. > :56:07.We have had dinner for donors. We have had Rebekah Brooks. He even

:56:07. > :56:08.

:56:08. > :56:13.rode the horse! He sent the texts, remember, LOL. And now what do we

:56:14. > :56:20.have? We have the Minister for Murdoch becoming the Minister for

:56:20. > :56:24.the National Health Service. We have an International Development

:56:24. > :56:29.Secretary. She says she doesn't believe in international

:56:29. > :56:34.development. LAUGHTER And get this. We have a Party Chairman who writes

:56:34. > :56:38.books about how to beat the recession under a false name.

:56:38. > :56:42.Really, I'm not making this up. I am not making this up. I have to

:56:42. > :56:52.say if I was chairman of the Conservative Party, I would have a

:56:52. > :56:56.

:56:56. > :57:01.false name, too! LAUGHTER There it is. APPLAUSE But here is my

:57:01. > :57:07.favourite one of all. There's one more. Here is my favourite one of

:57:07. > :57:11.all. There's even a bloke - and I think they call him Lord Hill - he

:57:11. > :57:15.went to see the Prime Minister, he made an appointment during the last

:57:15. > :57:19.reshuffle in order to resign. But David Cameron was too incompetent

:57:19. > :57:24.to notice that he wanted to resign, so Lord Hill is still in the

:57:24. > :57:34.Government! LAUGHTER This lot are so useless they can't resign

:57:34. > :57:39.

:57:39. > :57:44.properly! Look, they are not going to build one nation. So it is up to

:57:44. > :57:48.us. Look, let me say to you one nation is not a way of avoiding the

:57:48. > :57:52.difficult decisions, it is a way of making the difficult decisions. I

:57:52. > :57:57.have to be very clear about this and about what faces the next

:57:57. > :58:01.Labour Government. You see, I think it is incredibly important that to

:58:01. > :58:06.be one nation we must show compassion and support for all

:58:06. > :58:16.those who cannot work, particularly the disabled men and women of our

:58:16. > :58:20.

:58:20. > :58:25.country. APPLAUSE But in order to do so, those who can work have a

:58:25. > :58:30.responsibility to do so. We can't leave people languishing out of

:58:30. > :58:34.work for one year, two years, three years. We have a responsibility to

:58:34. > :58:41.help them and they have a responsibility to take the work

:58:41. > :58:47.that is on offer. APPLAUSE To be one nation, to be one nation we've

:58:47. > :58:52.got to give much greater dignity to our elderly population. You know,

:58:52. > :58:56.we are going to have to tackle the care crisis that faces so many

:58:56. > :59:01.families up-and-down this country. I mean, living longer should be one

:59:01. > :59:04.of the great virtues of the 21st Century. But, friends, in order to

:59:04. > :59:09.be able to afford to do that we are going to have to work longer, have

:59:09. > :59:13.a later retirement age than we do now. To be one nation we've got to

:59:13. > :59:17.live within our means. And because borrowing is getting worse, not

:59:17. > :59:22.better, it means there will be many cuts that this Government made that

:59:22. > :59:26.we just won't be able to reverse, even though we would like to. And

:59:26. > :59:32.that's why we said in this Parliament that we would put jobs

:59:32. > :59:35.in the next Parliament we will have tough settlements for the public

:59:35. > :59:40.services. And that will make life harder for those who use them and

:59:40. > :59:45.harder for those who work in them. But here's the big difference

:59:45. > :59:52.between a one nation Government led by me and this current Government.

:59:52. > :00:02.Those with the broadest shoulders will always bear the greatest

:00:02. > :00:06.

:00:06. > :00:12.I would never cut taxes for millionaires and raise them on

:00:12. > :00:16.ordinary families. That is wrong, that is not being one nation. Here

:00:17. > :00:22.is the other thing, I would never accept an economy where the gap

:00:22. > :00:31.between rich and poor just grows wider and wider. In one nation, in

:00:31. > :00:37.my faith, inequality matters. It matters to our country. What does

:00:37. > :00:42.it mean for the Labour Party to be one nation? It means we can't go

:00:42. > :00:47.back to old Labour. We must be the party of the private sector just as

:00:47. > :00:50.much as the party of the public sector, as much the party of the

:00:50. > :01:00.small business struggling against the odds as the home help

:01:00. > :01:10.

:01:10. > :01:18.We must be the party of the South just as much as the party of the

:01:18. > :01:23.North. And we must be the party as much as the squeeze to middle as

:01:23. > :01:29.those in poverty. There is no future for this party as the party

:01:29. > :01:39.of one sectional interest of our country.

:01:39. > :01:39.

:01:39. > :01:47.So, too, it is right to move on from New Labour because new Labour,

:01:47. > :01:51.despite its achievements, was to silent about the responsibility of

:01:51. > :01:57.those at the top, and too timid about the accountability of those

:01:57. > :02:03.in power. In one nation, responsibility goes to the top of

:02:03. > :02:13.society. The richest in society have responsibility to show

:02:13. > :02:14.

:02:14. > :02:19.responsibility to the rest of our country. And I have got news for

:02:19. > :02:24.the powerful interests in our country. In one nation, no interest

:02:24. > :02:34.from Rupert Murdoch to the bank's is too powerful to be held to

:02:34. > :02:39.

:02:39. > :02:46.account. So we must be a One nation party, to become one nation

:02:46. > :02:52.government, to build a one nation Britain. Here is how we are going

:02:52. > :02:55.to take some steps to do that. We need a One nation economy, and the

:02:55. > :03:05.first big mission of the next Labour government is to sort out

:03:05. > :03:12.our banks. Sort them out once and for all. Not just to prevent

:03:12. > :03:22.another crisis, but to do what has not been done in decades. Necessary

:03:22. > :03:22.

:03:22. > :03:30.to enable us to pay our way in the world. We need banks that serve the

:03:30. > :03:35.country, not a country that serves its banks. Think about Alan

:03:35. > :03:41.Henderson, the small businessman I talked about earlier on. He wanted

:03:41. > :03:45.to be able to go into his bank, look his high-street manager in the

:03:45. > :03:49.eye, and know that he was working for him. Instead he found a bank

:03:49. > :03:55.more interested in playing the international money markets. That

:03:55. > :04:01.is why he was ripped off. Of course this government promised change,

:04:01. > :04:07.but things are not really changing so I have a message for the banks.

:04:07. > :04:11.We can do this the easy way or the hard way. Either you fix it

:04:11. > :04:16.yourselves between now and the election or the next Labour

:04:16. > :04:26.government will make sure the high street bank is no longer the arm of

:04:26. > :04:32.

:04:32. > :04:42.a casino operation and we will break you up by law.

:04:42. > :04:45.

:04:45. > :04:53.There will be some people who say this is too radical, let's just

:04:53. > :04:59.carry on as we are. I say we can't carry on as we are, we can't. Two

:04:59. > :05:09.nations, not one. The banks and the rest of Britain. We must have a One

:05:09. > :05:10.

:05:10. > :05:16.nation banking system as part of a One nation economy. Next, we need

:05:16. > :05:26.an education system that works for all young people.

:05:26. > :05:27.

:05:27. > :05:31.You see, to be a One nation economy, you have got to use the talents of

:05:31. > :05:37.all our young people. It is not just that it is socially right, it

:05:37. > :05:45.is essential for our economy in the future. I remember when Chris and

:05:45. > :05:51.myself were at Haverstock School, my comprehensive. For kids who are

:05:51. > :05:56.good at passing exams, they could go to university, and the world

:05:56. > :06:03.would just open for them like it did for me. But think about those

:06:03. > :06:09.kids who had talent and ability, great talent and ability, school

:06:09. > :06:19.just didn't offer them enough. It was true twenty-five years ago and

:06:19. > :06:24.

:06:24. > :06:28.it is even more true today. Just think in your minds eye about a 14

:06:28. > :06:34.year-old today, not academic, already bored at school, may be

:06:34. > :06:40.starting the process of truanting, not going to school. Of course,

:06:40. > :06:44.they need to get back school and their parents need to get them back

:06:44. > :06:50.to school. They can't drift through life with no qualifications, and

:06:50. > :06:56.Britain can't afford for them to do it either, but we can't just say to

:06:56. > :07:01.that 14 year-old "just put in that work" Because we have been failing

:07:01. > :07:06.them as well. For a long time, our party has been focused about

:07:06. > :07:12.getting 50% of young people into university. I believe that was

:07:12. > :07:22.right but now it is time to put our focus on the forgotten 50% who do

:07:22. > :07:25.

:07:25. > :07:31.not go to university. Here is the choice I want to offer

:07:32. > :07:35.to that 14 year-old who was not academic. English and maths to 18

:07:35. > :07:40.because rigour in the curriculum matters, but courses which are

:07:40. > :07:45.relevant to them, work experience with employers, and culminating at

:07:45. > :07:50.the age of 18 in a new gold standard qualification so they know

:07:50. > :08:00.when they are taking that exam they have a gold standard Vocational

:08:00. > :08:01.

:08:01. > :08:08.qualification, a new technical back up or a qualification to be proud

:08:08. > :08:13.of. We have got to change the culture of this country, friends.

:08:13. > :08:18.We can't be a country where vocational qualifications are seen

:08:18. > :08:23.as second class. They are a real route to apprenticeships and jobs.

:08:23. > :08:33.They can't be as valuable for young people as a university degree. We

:08:33. > :08:36.

:08:36. > :08:40.need to make it so! We have got to change the culture in this country

:08:40. > :08:45.and there needs to be that real route to apprenticeships. Let me

:08:45. > :08:52.tell you there is another problem. Only one in three large employers

:08:52. > :08:59.in Britain actually offers an apprenticeship. If anything, in the

:08:59. > :09:04.public sector, the situation is far worse. That is about a culture of a

:09:04. > :09:08.country. That is about a culture of the country which has not been

:09:08. > :09:14.dealt with for decades. It is the task of the next Labour government

:09:14. > :09:21.to do that. The public sector is going to have to step up to the

:09:21. > :09:25.plate and understand that we can't be two nations. We can't be two

:09:25. > :09:29.nations. When the public sector Office contract to the private

:09:29. > :09:36.sector, the next Labour government will make sure that every private

:09:36. > :09:41.sector contract will only be awarded to a company that trains

:09:41. > :09:51.the next generation with apprenticeships.

:09:51. > :09:56.

:09:56. > :10:02.Because when the public sector is having a contract with a private

:10:02. > :10:06.sector company, it is not just buying goods and services, it must

:10:06. > :10:14.be about building One nation together. Public and private

:10:14. > :10:24.sectors joining together to do it. And weeny a new deal with British

:10:24. > :10:28.

:10:28. > :10:33.business. -- we need. You set the standards, as you have long asked

:10:33. > :10:40.for, but you have a responsibility to make sure the training happens.

:10:40. > :10:50.In one nation, there is no place for free riding, free riding where

:10:50. > :10:52.

:10:53. > :10:59.firms that don't train poach workers from firms that do. Think

:10:59. > :11:04.about this vision of education. Education to the age of 18 with

:11:04. > :11:14.proper vocational qualifications, and then think about the vision on

:11:14. > :11:14.

:11:14. > :11:23.offer from the Conservatives. Michael Gove. Michael Gove. Michael

:11:23. > :11:29.Gove, who wanted to bring back... I think I get the point! Michael Gove,

:11:29. > :11:38.who wanted to bring back two-tier academic exams. I remember that

:11:38. > :11:48.what that was like. O levels, a whole group of people written off.

:11:48. > :11:56.

:11:56. > :12:00.We are not going back to those days. Michael Gove, who has contempt for

:12:00. > :12:05.Vocational qualifications and has abolished some of the best

:12:05. > :12:12.Vocational qualifications our country has. And Michael Gove who

:12:12. > :12:19.has nothing to say about education to 18. In education, there really

:12:19. > :12:24.is a choice of two futures. Education for a narrower elite with

:12:24. > :12:29.the Conservatives or One nation still system as part of a One

:12:29. > :12:39.nation economy with the next government.

:12:39. > :12:46.

:12:46. > :12:52.To be a One nation economy, we have to make life just that bit easier

:12:52. > :12:58.for the producers, and that bit harder for the predators. Predators

:12:58. > :13:08.and producers. I think one year on people know what I was talking

:13:08. > :13:09.

:13:09. > :13:14.about. You see, businesses tell me that the pressure for the fast buck

:13:14. > :13:18.from City investors, they just can't take the long view. They want

:13:18. > :13:23.a planned 10 years ahead but they have to publish their accounts in

:13:23. > :13:32.Britain every three months in line with the wishes of the best of

:13:32. > :13:39.British business. We will end that rule so British businesses can do

:13:39. > :13:45.that. Companies in Britain are for more easily bought and sold than in

:13:45. > :13:51.many other countries. Did you know that when a takeover is launched,

:13:51. > :13:57.the speculators can swoop in for a quick profit. They are not acting

:13:57. > :14:02.in the interests of firms or the nation, they are just in it for the

:14:02. > :14:07.money and that is wrong. We will change it for the nation. Here is

:14:07. > :14:12.that thing - I invite British business to work with us in advance

:14:13. > :14:22.up the next Labour government. Let's have a One nation business

:14:23. > :14:27.

:14:27. > :14:32.model as part of a One nation economy for our country. Friends,

:14:32. > :14:39.in banks, in education, in the rules of the game for companies,

:14:39. > :14:44.one nation gives an urgent call for change, but one nation is not just

:14:44. > :14:49.about things we need to change, it is about things we need to conserve

:14:49. > :14:57.as well. Saying that doesn't make me a Conservative. Our common way

:14:57. > :15:00.of life matters. My vision of one nation is and out would looking

:15:01. > :15:10.country, a country that engages with Europe and the rest of the

:15:11. > :15:12.

:15:12. > :15:17.I'm incredibly proud to be the son of immigrant parents. I'm

:15:17. > :15:23.incredibly proud of the multi- ethnic, diverse Britain which won

:15:23. > :15:33.us the Olympic bid and the Olympic bid saw that kind of country here

:15:33. > :15:33.

:15:33. > :15:38.in Britain. But to make that vision work, to make that vision work for

:15:38. > :15:46.our country, immigration must work for all and not just for some.

:15:46. > :15:51.Friends, too often in the past we've overlooked those concerns,

:15:51. > :15:54.dismissed them too easily. Here is where my approach is going to be

:15:54. > :16:00.different from the last Labour Government and this Conservative

:16:00. > :16:04.Government. You see, we need secure management of our borders, we need

:16:04. > :16:09.competent management of the system, but here's the big change. It is

:16:09. > :16:15.about the way our economy works. You see, immigration has really

:16:15. > :16:25.significant economic benefits, but not when it's used to undercut

:16:25. > :16:29.

:16:29. > :16:34.workers already here and exploit people coming here. APPLAUSE Now,

:16:34. > :16:39.the last Labour Government didn't do enough to address these concerns.

:16:39. > :16:49.The Tories never will. So the next Labour Government will crackdown on

:16:49. > :16:49.

:16:49. > :16:54.employers who don't pay the minimum wage. APPLAUSE We will stop

:16:54. > :16:59.recruitment agencies just saying they are only going to hire people

:16:59. > :17:09.from overseas. And we will end the shady practices in the construction

:17:09. > :17:10.

:17:10. > :17:14.industry and else where of Gangmasters. APPLAUSE So we need a

:17:14. > :17:20.system of immigration that works for the whole country and not just

:17:20. > :17:27.for some. You know, there is no more important area of our common

:17:27. > :17:34.life than the United Kingdom itself. One of our four countries, Scotland,

:17:34. > :17:39.will be deciding in the next two years whether to stay or to go. I

:17:39. > :17:45.want to be quite clear. Scotland could leave the United Kingdom. I

:17:45. > :17:55.believe we will be far worse off as a result. Not just in pounds and

:17:55. > :18:00.

:18:00. > :18:07.pence, but in the soul of our nation. APPLAUSE You see, I don't

:18:07. > :18:12.believe that solidarity stops at the border. I care as much about a

:18:12. > :18:16.young person unemployed in Motherwell as I do about a young

:18:16. > :18:20.person unemployed here in Manchester. We have common bonds.

:18:20. > :18:26.We have deep bonds with each other. The people of Scotland and the

:18:27. > :18:32.people of the rest of the United Kingdom. By the way, if you think

:18:32. > :18:36.about the people of Scotland and the Olympic Games, they weren't

:18:36. > :18:46.cheering on just the Scottish athletes of Team GB, they were

:18:46. > :18:49.

:18:49. > :18:54.cheering on all the athletes of Team GB. APPLAUSE That's what the

:18:54. > :18:58.SNP don't understand. Why would a party that claims to be left of

:18:58. > :19:03.centre turn its back on the redistribution, the solidarity, the

:19:03. > :19:10.common bonds of the United Kingdom? Friends, it is up to us, it is up

:19:10. > :19:20.to us. We, the Labour Party, must be the people who fight, defend and

:19:20. > :19:28.

:19:28. > :19:35.win the battle for the United Kingdom. APPLAUSE After the United

:19:35. > :19:45.Kingdom itself, there's no more important area of our common life

:19:45. > :19:45.

:19:45. > :19:50.than the National Health Service. APPLAUSE The National Health

:19:50. > :19:56.Service. The magic of the National Health Service for me is that you

:19:56. > :20:01.don't leave your credit card at the door. The National Health Service

:20:01. > :20:08.is based on a whole different set of values, a whole different set of

:20:08. > :20:16.values that the people of Britain love. Not values of markets, money

:20:16. > :20:20.and exchange. But values of competition, care and co-operation.

:20:20. > :20:26.That is the magic of the National Health Service. That is why the

:20:26. > :20:31.British people love the National Health Service. I'm afraid the

:20:31. > :20:35.Tories have shown in Government that something they just don't

:20:35. > :20:40.understand -- that is something they just don't understand.

:20:40. > :20:45.Remember before the election? Remember those airbrushed posters?

:20:46. > :20:50."I'll protect the NHS" and there was that picture of David Cameron.

:20:50. > :20:58.Remember those speeches, the three most important letters to me, he

:20:58. > :21:03.said, were N-H-S. It was a solemn contract with the British people.

:21:03. > :21:10.And then what did he do? He came along after the election and

:21:10. > :21:20.proposed a top-down reorganisation that nobody voted for, that nobody

:21:20. > :21:29.knew about and nobody wanted. This is the worst part. When it became

:21:29. > :21:36.unpopular he paused - remember the pause? He said he wanted to listen.

:21:36. > :21:40.What happened? The GPs said "no", the nurses said "no", the

:21:40. > :21:44.paediatricians said "no", the radiologists said "no", the

:21:44. > :21:47.patients said... AUDIENCE: No! And the British

:21:47. > :21:51.people said? AUDIENCE: No! What did he do? He

:21:51. > :22:01.ploughed on regardless. He broke his solemn contract with the

:22:01. > :22:13.

:22:13. > :22:16.British people, a contract that can Let me tell you what I hate about

:22:16. > :22:21.this reorganisation. Let me tell you what I hate. I hate the waste,

:22:21. > :22:24.I hate the waste of billions of pounds at a time when the NHS has

:22:24. > :22:33.its worst settlement, its most difficult settlement for a

:22:33. > :22:36.generation. I hate the fact that there are 5,500 fewer nurses than

:22:36. > :22:40.when David Cameron came to power. Think of what he could have done if

:22:40. > :22:50.he hadn't spent billions of pounds on that top-down reorganisation and

:22:50. > :22:56.

:22:56. > :23:02.had used the money to employ nurses rather than sacking them! APPLAUSE

:23:02. > :23:08.But here's what I hate most of all. Here's what I hate most of all.

:23:08. > :23:15.It's the whole way they designed this NHS reorganisation. It was

:23:15. > :23:20.based on the model of competition that there was in the privatised

:23:20. > :23:23.utility industry - gas, energy and water. What does that tell you

:23:23. > :23:28.about these Tories? What does that tell you about the way they don't

:23:28. > :23:32.understand the values of the NHS? The NHS isn't like the gas,

:23:32. > :23:37.electricity and water industries. The NHS is the pride of Britain.

:23:37. > :23:43.The NHS is based on a whole different set of values for our

:23:43. > :23:49.country. Friends, it just shows that the old adage is truer now

:23:49. > :23:59.than it ever was - you just can't trust the Tories on the National

:23:59. > :24:36.

:24:36. > :24:39.So let me be clear, let me be clear. The next Labour Government will end

:24:39. > :24:49.the free market experiment. It will put the right principles back at

:24:49. > :25:04.

:25:04. > :25:10.the heart of the NHS and it will So, friends, this is where I stand.

:25:10. > :25:16.This is who I am. This is what I believe. This is my faith. I was

:25:16. > :25:25.talking to my Mum this morning, as you do before a big speech, and she

:25:25. > :25:35.reminded me that her mother was born in a small Polish village in

:25:35. > :25:38.1909. I went back to that village with my Mum about a decade ago.

:25:38. > :25:45.2,000 people live there. It was quite an event having people from

:25:45. > :25:51.England coming over. It feels a long way from that village and what

:25:51. > :25:58.my parents experienced to this stage today. You see, Britain has

:25:58. > :26:02.given my family everything. Britain has given my family everything.

:26:02. > :26:07.Britain and the spirit, the determination, the courage of the

:26:07. > :26:11.people who rebuilt Britain after the Second World War, and now the

:26:11. > :26:16.question is asked again - who in this generation will rebuild

:26:16. > :26:21.Britain for the future? Who can come up to the task of rebuilding

:26:21. > :26:27.Britain? Friends, it falls to us. It falls to us, the Labour Party,

:26:27. > :26:32.as it has fallen to previous generations of Labour Party

:26:32. > :26:36.pioneers. To leave our country a better place than we found out.

:26:36. > :26:40.Never to shrug our shoulders at injustice and to say that is the

:26:40. > :26:43.way the world is. To come together, to join together as a country. It

:26:43. > :26:51.is not some impossible dream. We have heard it. We have seen it. We

:26:51. > :26:56.have felt it. That is my faith. One nation. A country for all with

:26:56. > :27:06.everyone playing their part. A Britain we rebuild together. Thank

:27:06. > :27:06.

:27:06. > :27:15.STUDIO: A confident Leader of the Opposition, Ed Miliband, he brings

:27:15. > :27:20.his speech to an end. We spoke for more than an hour. He spoke without

:27:20. > :27:25.notes. He didn't stumble once in that hour and five minutes. He was

:27:25. > :27:30.confident throughout. He must have memorised huge chunks of it. And

:27:30. > :27:34.other bits he probably ad libbed. They did not issue a speech in

:27:34. > :27:38.advance to check against delivery, which suggests that not all of it

:27:38. > :27:46.was memorised and that bits of it came to him as he went along, that

:27:46. > :27:49.he had a structure. He began by talking about himself, about his

:27:49. > :27:54.immigrant parents. He mentioned many times comprehensive education

:27:54. > :28:01.- there's his wife joining him on the stage to take the applause. A

:28:01. > :28:06.little kiss for him. The Labour Party will be happy with this

:28:06. > :28:09.performance today. For many of them, it may have been above their

:28:09. > :28:12.expectations. He came across better than he has at any time since he

:28:12. > :28:17.became Leader of the Labour Party. He talked about his faith, not a

:28:17. > :28:21.religious faith. But to leave the world a better place. There was, of

:28:21. > :28:31.course, with all politicians these days, the lauding of the Olympics

:28:31. > :28:36.

:28:36. > :28:40.and he talked about a country united. He invoked one Benjamin

:28:40. > :28:45.Disraeli and his one nation Toryism as an example of bringing the

:28:45. > :28:51.nation together. He got a standing ovation in the middle of his speech

:28:51. > :28:57.for attacking the Tories as "a miserable shower". It was that line

:28:57. > :29:02.which he built up to again, without any script notes, that brought the

:29:02. > :29:06.Conference to its feet. A happy Ed Balls there. He applauds Mr

:29:06. > :29:10.Miliband there. I suspect that Mr Miliband and the others around him

:29:10. > :29:15.will be feeling very happy with the performance that he gave today. It

:29:15. > :29:18.was short on policy. There were no new policies outlined. He did make

:29:18. > :29:23.it clear that another Labour Government would take on the banks,

:29:23. > :29:26.they would split the banks from their investment banking and the

:29:26. > :29:31.retail banks that you and I use on the High Street. He would split

:29:31. > :29:34.them. If they hadn't done it themselves by the time the next

:29:34. > :29:41.Labour Government came to power, he would split them. He outlined - it

:29:41. > :29:45.was briefed in the papers this morning - his plan for a technical

:29:45. > :29:54.qualification, a vocational qualification of huge status on a

:29:54. > :29:58.par with the academic qualifications that we used to have.

:29:58. > :30:02.Out he comes, walking through - there's our BBC crew. They are

:30:02. > :30:07.behind him! There's no escaping from the BBC on days like this! You

:30:07. > :30:11.can see he is looking pretty happy with himself. He knows that he

:30:11. > :30:17.pulled it off. It takes a lot of guts. Mr Cameron has done it, too.

:30:17. > :30:22.Takes a lot of guts to stand up in front of a huge hall with the

:30:22. > :30:32.nation's cameras on you without a note in your hand and deliver a

:30:32. > :30:39.

:30:39. > :30:47.speech of overan hour. -- over an Firstly, let's get reaction from

:30:47. > :30:52.you. What were the e-mails? The was general praise for his delivery.

:30:52. > :30:58.There was a divided over the substance. One person said Ed

:30:58. > :31:04.Miliband is really coming across as the most trustworthy, ethically

:31:04. > :31:11.capable of leaders. Sarah in Surrey said what the uniting speech so far,

:31:11. > :31:16.with a lot of humour as well. Roddy said Ed Miliband's training in

:31:16. > :31:21.speeches and connecting to the public is showing through. The

:31:21. > :31:27.problem is what he is saying looks instructed, and his stories appear

:31:27. > :31:32.cringe worthy. One good point on his speaking - practice has

:31:32. > :31:38.persisted, but whereas the substance? This one says 45 minutes

:31:38. > :31:41.into the speech from Ed Miliband and there is not much in it.

:31:41. > :31:46.Congratulating police, soldiers and the Olympics, most people would

:31:46. > :31:52.agree with that, we want to know what he would do in the future.

:31:52. > :31:56.Let's speak to Nick Robinson. Give me your initial impressions.

:31:56. > :32:04.think this is a speech that will be remembered for its performance

:32:04. > :32:14.double-fault. It was a feat of memory. He has been dismissed

:32:14. > :32:21.

:32:21. > :32:26.before, but he wowed the hall, and I felt a sense of relief around me.

:32:26. > :32:32.It was also memorable for the theme of one nation. It is audacious, it

:32:32. > :32:38.has been done before by Tony Blair, but stealing this is an audacious

:32:38. > :32:43.way of trying to fill the space Ed Miliband believes David Cameron has

:32:43. > :32:49.vacated in the centre of British politics. In the end people will

:32:49. > :32:53.say what is the substance? What you got is a direction of travel. He

:32:53. > :32:58.would say you do know what he cares about, you know what he called his

:32:58. > :33:04.faith and the detail will come later. After all, there is another

:33:04. > :33:08.two of these to deliver before the next general election. He had to

:33:08. > :33:14.speak to the party faithful and the wider country - I suspect those

:33:14. > :33:18.around him think he has pulled off both. The air is no doubt about it,

:33:18. > :33:23.in the hall there was the real sense they were sharing this with

:33:23. > :33:28.him, willing him on. The fact he got two standing ovations during

:33:28. > :33:35.the speech, one attacking the Tories, one about the NHS, told the

:33:35. > :33:41.story. They laughed with him, they felt emotional with him when he

:33:41. > :33:44.spoke about his parents. They took him into their bosom today, and he

:33:45. > :33:50.gave the sort of performance that would make them think we could see

:33:50. > :33:57.him fighting a general election. The last person to pull off that

:33:57. > :34:01.sort of trick was David Cameron, the man who spoke with no notes

:34:01. > :34:05.about British politics. Compare where Ed Miliband is now compared

:34:05. > :34:11.with where he might have been. There was a danger after that

:34:11. > :34:16.pretty dire defeat in 2010 that the Labour Party turned on itself, but

:34:16. > :34:21.they haven't. There is an argument they might have done that even more

:34:22. > :34:25.if the leader was David Miliband, someone's seen as a Blairite right-

:34:25. > :34:30.wing person. There is another danger Ed Miliband has managed to

:34:30. > :34:40.avoid which the Labour Party didn't avoid in the 80s, the wilderness

:34:40. > :34:48.

:34:48. > :34:52.years, it is this - they are not being shrill. There was a sense

:34:52. > :34:57.that they felt we could not believe they have been thrown out of power.

:34:57. > :35:03.Ed Miliband today said I understand why people gave Conservative Party

:35:03. > :35:09.a chance, they have just been found wanting. I think he will consider

:35:10. > :35:19.this the case of job done. One more question, should we be encouraged

:35:19. > :35:24.to see this in strategic terms as Ed Miliband placing his tanks

:35:24. > :35:28.firmly on the centre ground, and even a slap in the face for the

:35:28. > :35:33.union militants? He did talk about splitting the banks, the Governor

:35:34. > :35:41.of the Bank of England is in favour of that, not particularly left-wing

:35:41. > :35:46.policy. Widespread support in business across the country for

:35:46. > :35:52.other things he said, is this a bid for the centre? It was certainly

:35:52. > :35:56.meant to be, and he wouldn't mind if a couple of trade union leaders

:35:56. > :36:01.said it was positively Blairite and they didn't like it. That is where

:36:01. > :36:06.he wants to be positioned, and you can't really judge that positioning

:36:06. > :36:14.until we know that policy detail. We have had a couple of aspirations

:36:14. > :36:20.today, an aspiration to sort out the banks, to sort out the fact

:36:20. > :36:24.there should be a better system of education and more apprenticeships.

:36:24. > :36:29.Until we know exactly how that would be done, and we only got

:36:29. > :36:34.hints of that today, it would be impossible to say whether he was

:36:34. > :36:42.left or right, but what is clear is that Ed Miliband wanted to say as

:36:42. > :36:48.loud as he could in the phrase that he knows people will understand, I

:36:48. > :36:54.am in the centre, that is what the one nation code means. A lot of

:36:54. > :36:59.people watching might say what does that phrase mean? It means he tells

:36:59. > :37:04.you where he wants to be seen to be going, but yes of course the Tories

:37:04. > :37:10.as early as next week in their conference will say no doubt hollow

:37:10. > :37:15.words, he is not really committed to getting the deficit down. What

:37:15. > :37:20.we may be seeing - I will leave you with this slightly horrendous

:37:20. > :37:24.thought - I think we have just seen the beginning of the longest

:37:24. > :37:32.election campaign in British history. I put on the facial

:37:32. > :37:38.expression of horror. You can't see it now on the monitor. Nick

:37:38. > :37:48.Robinson, thank you for that analysis. The no freeze frames on

:37:48. > :37:53.you true. Your initial reaction to the speech? I have been listening

:37:53. > :37:59.to and sometimes writing speeches for leaders of the Labour Party

:37:59. > :38:03.since 1983 and that is up there with the best of them. I don't

:38:03. > :38:08.think just because people were lowering their expectations in the

:38:08. > :38:13.press, but it answered two big questions which were being asked

:38:13. > :38:18.this morning. Ed Miliband didn't choose the questions, but they were

:38:18. > :38:25.is he really a leader who can communicate with the country? And

:38:25. > :38:32.he answered that today. It was a super speech in those terms. He

:38:32. > :38:36.took a big risk because to try to ad-lib for one hour, yes he will

:38:36. > :38:42.have rehearsed, but a lot of that obviously came from what he truly

:38:42. > :38:49.believes. He took the complexity of his thinking and communicated it

:38:49. > :38:53.simply in anecdotes. First question answered. Second question is,

:38:53. > :38:59.whereas the Ed Miliband Labour Party positioned? I thought in

:38:59. > :39:04.terms of his positioning, the one nation argument that the centre

:39:04. > :39:08.identifying with aspirations and so on, I thought he was in the correct

:39:08. > :39:13.political position. He probably won't like me saying this, but in

:39:13. > :39:17.terms of his ability to communicate with an audience, I was asked

:39:17. > :39:23.yesterday by a correspondent from the BBC as a final question - how

:39:23. > :39:27.does he compare with Tony Blair? I said that is an unfair question,

:39:27. > :39:33.there are very few politicians in Europe who can communicate the way

:39:33. > :39:37.Tony Blair did. There were large sections of this today which

:39:37. > :39:40.approximated an approach towards the ability in terms of his

:39:40. > :39:46.presentation of Tony Blair to communicate and in politics to

:39:46. > :39:52.reach out to everybody in terms of his one nation theme. There were

:39:52. > :39:57.questions this morning for Ed Miliband to answer. He has answered

:39:57. > :40:03.them with that speech. The did you say a BBC interviewer have tried to

:40:03. > :40:11.trip you up? I asked me a forensic question, let me put it that way.

:40:12. > :40:17.Let me go straight to shadow foreign secretary Douglas Alexander.

:40:17. > :40:22.Welcome. How long has Benjamin Disraeli been Ed Miliband's

:40:22. > :40:27.political hero? I think he answered that question today by saying his

:40:27. > :40:32.mission was to build a one nation Britain. He was generous enough to

:40:32. > :40:38.attribute the phrase to Benjamin Disraeli. It was issued several

:40:38. > :40:41.decades ago, and he said even the speech would not convince your

:40:41. > :40:46.viewers Ed Miliband is a conservative but he was making a

:40:46. > :40:50.statement about what he believes, that we are at our best as British

:40:50. > :40:54.people when they come together and the challenge of building a one

:40:54. > :41:02.nation country is the defining mission of the next Labour

:41:02. > :41:09.government. There is nothing new about it. Tony Blair in 1997, I

:41:09. > :41:14.believe in Britain, one nation reborn. Tony Blair, 2004, New

:41:14. > :41:20.Labour now wears the one nation mantle. Ed Miliband in February

:41:20. > :41:26.this year, we need what you might call one nation banking. David

:41:26. > :41:32.Cameron, we need one nation deficit reduction. Boris Johnson, I am a

:41:32. > :41:36.one nation Tory. What's new? Firstly the ridiculousness of the

:41:36. > :41:41.Conservatives are trying to claim the one nation went every day their

:41:41. > :41:45.policies are dividing the nation. I make no apology for the continuity

:41:45. > :41:49.that you suggested between the politics that we stood for in the

:41:49. > :41:55.mid- 1990s when we won a majority together with the task of bringing

:41:55. > :42:02.the country together after that election victory. Our job as the

:42:02. > :42:09.Labour Party representing not just people in England, but in Scotland,

:42:09. > :42:15.Wales and Northern Ireland, our job is to come up with policies that

:42:15. > :42:20.bring people together. We have got more than a million of our young

:42:20. > :42:24.people without work. You can have no credible claim to be a one

:42:24. > :42:29.nation Conservative it you are overseeing one in five young people

:42:29. > :42:34.in our country condemned to the scrapheap. Today what we heard from

:42:34. > :42:38.Ed Miliband was the authentic Ed Miliband voice. This is his mission,

:42:38. > :42:43.and I feel there are many people across the country who have been

:42:43. > :42:50.waiting to hear that voice and that vision. The Tories have taken off

:42:50. > :42:55.their one nation clothes, left them, and you have picked them up and run

:42:55. > :43:01.away with them? They gave up any claim to be in this together when

:43:01. > :43:05.they decided to write cheques for every millionaire in the country

:43:05. > :43:10.for �40,000 next April whilst increasing taxes for pensioners. Ed

:43:10. > :43:14.Miliband made it clear there will be tough decisions, but week as the

:43:14. > :43:22.Labour Party believe those with the broadest shoulders should bear the

:43:22. > :43:29.heaviest burden. That is a message to the country has been waiting to

:43:29. > :43:37.here. Can I pick up on a line from the speech - you are saying to me

:43:37. > :43:42.now that every millionaire in this country is going to get a cheque

:43:42. > :43:50.for �40,000? If you look at the changes that were announced at the

:43:50. > :43:54.last Budget in terms of the tax cut given to 45%, there will be

:43:54. > :43:59.benefits of �40,000 for individual millionaires across the country.

:43:59. > :44:08.what Ed Miliband will be getting a cheque for �40,000 as well? Income

:44:08. > :44:14.tax is based on income. So why it are you talking about wealth? The

:44:14. > :44:19.income tax... You have surfaced again and again. You know enough

:44:19. > :44:24.about economics to know that this is not true. Income tax is on

:44:24. > :44:29.income, so if you get paid a million, you will get �40,000, but

:44:29. > :44:35.if you are simply were the million, you will not be - correct? I am

:44:35. > :44:40.happy any other day of the week to have this conversation, but the

:44:40. > :44:48.truth is there are many people who will be benefiting by �40,000 next

:44:48. > :44:54.April. How many? I don't have the red book in front of me. There are

:44:54. > :44:58.6000 people in this country earning over �1 million the year. Let me

:44:58. > :45:06.finish the point, then I will come back to you because facts do matter

:45:06. > :45:10.in politics. There are 310,000 millionaires in this country. It is

:45:10. > :45:20.only the 6000 earning over �1 million who will be getting the

:45:20. > :45:20.

:45:20. > :45:25.Facts matter. It is Mr Cameron's �40,000. He's made a conscious

:45:25. > :45:30.decision... If you think, or if people watching this programme

:45:30. > :45:37.think it is justifiable for those thousands of people to be getting

:45:37. > :45:41.�40,000 tax cut while pensioners are paying more tax, I disagree.

:45:41. > :45:48.You may well be right, you well know that wasn't my point. Let me

:45:48. > :45:54.finish up with you on this. Do you see this as a move by a man who

:45:54. > :45:58.says he isn't Red Ed at all to the centre ground? Listen, I have known

:45:58. > :46:03.Ed for more than 20 years. I have been discussing this speech with

:46:03. > :46:08.him for months. This is not a tactical move. This is a judgment

:46:08. > :46:13.by Ed Miliband about what the country needs. All I would say to

:46:13. > :46:16.you on the basis of my friendship and knowledge of the man, this was

:46:16. > :46:22.the authentic voice of Ed Miliband. I think that is a message that is

:46:22. > :46:26.well received here in Manchester. I hope and believe it will be well

:46:26. > :46:31.received across the country. speech seemed to go down very well

:46:31. > :46:34.in the hall? I am delighted. This is what brought me into politics,

:46:34. > :46:37.to bring people together. I welcome and celebrate the speech that we

:46:37. > :46:41.heard from Ed Miliband. I believe we are a bit closer to Downing

:46:41. > :46:47.Street at the end of that speech than we were at the beginning.

:46:47. > :46:52.Maybe one - if you are going to quote Conservative history, you

:46:52. > :46:59.need to get it right. My understanding is Benjamin Disraeli

:46:59. > :47:08.did not use the "one nation" phrase in his speech. He also said, "Keep

:47:08. > :47:18.an eye on Paisley." You are right - that wasn't Disraeli. Go and do

:47:18. > :47:20.

:47:21. > :47:25.your homework! Read Civil - good to see you. All right. We better end

:47:25. > :47:35.this before everyone switches off! Thank you. Thank you.

:47:35. > :47:39.Remember not to have a fight with you over what Disraeli said or

:47:39. > :47:45.didn't say. The question the nation is asking how he managed to finish

:47:45. > :47:49.two bottles of brandy and finish his speech? That is water?!

:47:49. > :47:55.Hope so. There was a warm reception for Ed

:47:55. > :47:59.Miliband today in the hall. Adam has some delegates with him.

:47:59. > :48:03.Afternoon. We are taking a leaf out of Ed Miliband's book and doing

:48:03. > :48:06.this unplanned. We are going to grab people randomly. I will go

:48:06. > :48:11.this way. Hello. You are live on the Daily Politics. What did you

:48:11. > :48:15.think of the speech? Marks out of ten? 11. That is not possible!

:48:15. > :48:19.least ten. What was the highlight? I thought the highlight was towards

:48:19. > :48:23.the end of the speech where he made the commitment about the NHS. That

:48:23. > :48:29.was absolutely brilliant. I think the whole thing was good in that

:48:29. > :48:33.the one nation message was very firmly put down, and we knew

:48:33. > :48:40.exactly where he was going. That was the speech of the next Prime

:48:41. > :48:45.Minister. Guys, what was it like hearing about his background?

:48:45. > :48:53.Apparently, he went to a comprehensive school? So did we!

:48:53. > :48:57.Brilliant. His personality came through. He did really well. Just -

:48:57. > :49:02.it wasn't set out as structured, but he went off the mark,

:49:02. > :49:06.especially with the NHS and his message to the banks, which was

:49:06. > :49:11.important. They are happy with the Tory-bashing. Hello there. What

:49:11. > :49:14.would you give the speech out of ten? Very uplifting. He gave his

:49:14. > :49:19.vision. His message to the country - he will bring this country back

:49:19. > :49:23.to where it should be. What does "one nation" mean? Practice? Well,

:49:23. > :49:27.we are all - like Cameron said, we are all in it together - we aren't.

:49:27. > :49:31.There are them and us. Ed will bring this nation like we were

:49:31. > :49:35.after the war, we came back from nothing and we will come back after

:49:35. > :49:39.this lot have gone. Good stuff. How about you? What is your definition

:49:39. > :49:43.of what "one nation" means? means everyone moving in the same

:49:43. > :49:47.direction, with the same aims and targets in life. That's what it

:49:47. > :49:52.means to me. I thought it was quite interesting that he introduced

:49:52. > :49:56.something that was devised by a Conservative Prime Minister,

:49:56. > :50:00.Disraeli, in Manchester, as he said. It was a very good speech. I would

:50:00. > :50:04.give it nine out of ten. Nobody makes a perfect speech, do they?

:50:04. > :50:08.The audience lapped it up. I did enjoy it. Thank you. Thank you. I

:50:08. > :50:18.have spotted somebody I spoke to doing the Daily Politics Mood Box

:50:18. > :50:19.

:50:19. > :50:25.the other day. You are a former Tory. Now Ed Miliband is quoting

:50:25. > :50:29.Disraeli? I know. I fought the last election against Michael Howard in

:50:29. > :50:32.2005. I fought because I was so horrified at what had happened to

:50:32. > :50:37.the Conservative Party. Disraeli would have been horrified. Ted

:50:38. > :50:42.Heath, John Major, they would have been horrified at what happened to

:50:42. > :50:47.that party. It was no longer a party of one nation. It was a party

:50:47. > :50:52.which divided the whole country. Now, we've got a party of one

:50:52. > :50:56.nation. We are all fighting, should be fighting, for the same things.

:50:56. > :51:00.OK. Are you looking forward to selling the one nation concept on

:51:00. > :51:05.the doorstep, delivering leaflets? Definitely. We want a nation as a

:51:05. > :51:08.Labour Party that are fighting altogether, equal opportunities in

:51:08. > :51:14.law, and this is why I joined the Labour Party. This is the attitude

:51:14. > :51:18.and I am really excited to be fighting for Ed Miliband to be

:51:18. > :51:22.Prime Minister, fighting for the one nation Government under his

:51:22. > :51:26.leadership. We are gathering quite a crowd here. Who wanted to say

:51:26. > :51:31.something about the delivery of the speech? The delivery was great. He

:51:31. > :51:39.didn't say anything of substance. He threw out a load of buzzwords -

:51:39. > :51:46.one nation this, and rebuilding that, blah blah. We are having an

:51:46. > :51:54.argument here now! No, don't interrupt. Some real ideas for...

:51:54. > :51:57.It is called debate! They have got on to this infrastructure bandwagon.

:51:57. > :52:03.What would you say? This Government is trying to divide the South from

:52:03. > :52:06.the North. We have regional pay on the table. People who aren't

:52:07. > :52:11.working are being made to be demonised, or if you are disabled.

:52:11. > :52:15.It is not right to divide people. don't disagree with that. I love

:52:15. > :52:20.the idea... Why don't you two carry on. I will talk to one more person.

:52:20. > :52:23.What you got today was a very happy, a very confident, a very relaxed Ed.

:52:23. > :52:27.An Ed that would take people forward and was confident. That is

:52:27. > :52:33.the difference. It might have been missing in years before. It wasn't

:52:33. > :52:39.today. How do you think he learnt the speech? I think because he's

:52:39. > :52:45.passionate, he is able to connect with with with people and he has

:52:45. > :52:55.very good people skills. Good skills of memory! And good skills

:52:55. > :52:55.

:52:55. > :53:02.of memory also. And I think he positioned the party very well.

:53:02. > :53:09.Right. We have run out of time. Thank you very much. It was very

:53:09. > :53:12.hot in that hall. These fans have lasers built into them! I need to

:53:12. > :53:16.bring the heat down! You were keeping cool under

:53:16. > :53:19.pressure. That is all the BBC can afford for

:53:19. > :53:23.air-conditioning! Thank you very much. John, is that

:53:23. > :53:29.the sort of speech or were there parts of that speech that Tony

:53:29. > :53:33.Blair could have made? Yes. Could he have made all of it?

:53:33. > :53:38.and Clinton and people like that have been great communicators. They

:53:38. > :53:41.have been accessible. They have been able to speak in a language

:53:41. > :53:45.that others have been able to identify with. Ed Miliband has

:53:45. > :53:49.never been seen like that. That is why today was a bit of a revelation.

:53:49. > :53:53.That was the question that many in the media had placed over his

:53:53. > :53:56.speech. A good speech should educate, it should inspire and it

:53:57. > :54:01.should point direction - leadership. I think there were substantial

:54:01. > :54:05.elements of all of that today. The education part was actually about

:54:05. > :54:08.Ed Miliband himself. That was the questions that were being asked -

:54:08. > :54:14.what is this guy like? Can he communicate? Is he a geek? He

:54:14. > :54:18.answered that. It was inspiring. Yes, it is an old theme. But the

:54:18. > :54:23.one nation is of particular relevance in times of adversity.

:54:23. > :54:27.It's caught on. It has caught on because people know the country is

:54:27. > :54:33.in adversity at the moment. There's a long recession in front of us.

:54:33. > :54:40.Many difficult choices. I think the contrast of his approach today and

:54:41. > :54:45.some of the actions of the present Coalition Government I think is

:54:45. > :54:48.pretty obvious. The final... What about aspiration? Was there enough

:54:48. > :54:53.aspirational politics in there to speak to the country and not just

:54:53. > :54:57.the Labour Party? Yes. That is important. The key thing that

:54:57. > :55:03.changed with Labour in the '90s was to stop being identified as only

:55:03. > :55:07.the party of the disadvantaged. And to look towards and relate to

:55:07. > :55:10.working people who were ambitious for themselves and the kids. There

:55:10. > :55:15.was a large section today that said half of our population doesn't go

:55:15. > :55:19.to university. It doesn't mean to say they are worthless or without

:55:19. > :55:23.ambition. I thought the material he had on education, the proposals on

:55:23. > :55:28.that, for the other 50% of the population were right on the button

:55:28. > :55:30.with the aspirations and the ambitions of many families in this

:55:31. > :55:34.country who don't see their children going to university, but

:55:34. > :55:39.they think they can make a huge contribution. Incidentally...

:55:39. > :55:44.Making it more worthwhile in terms of technical qualifications? Giving

:55:44. > :55:50.them a status because incidentally this is of a huge benefit to the

:55:50. > :55:56.country as well. I think we grossly undervalue apprenticeships, we did

:55:56. > :55:59.a lot during the last Government, we don't do enough. Education for

:55:59. > :56:03.non-university students. Even at universities, engineering, science

:56:03. > :56:07.subjects and things like that. That is why I am so pleased with the

:56:07. > :56:12.speech. You were surprised? You didn't think it would be as good as

:56:12. > :56:18.that? It is not that I didn't think it would be add good - well, to be

:56:18. > :56:25.truthful, I didn't think his presentation would be add -- would

:56:25. > :56:30.be as good - well, to be truthful, I didn't think his presentation

:56:30. > :56:35.would be as good. I was more pleased about the positioning of

:56:35. > :56:39.the Labour Party. I have always been worried that in the last few

:56:39. > :56:46.years of the last Government and the early stages of opposition that

:56:46. > :56:50.we could move to the left. To see him identifying with ordinary

:56:50. > :56:54.people who want to see their ambitions for their children

:56:54. > :56:58.fulfilled, as well as protecting the disadvantaged, that was very

:56:58. > :57:06.encouraging. Not good news for these militant union leaders?

:57:06. > :57:10.it isn't. I think that he has carried - he's managed to combine

:57:10. > :57:15.two things. He's managed to combine change with continuity from New

:57:15. > :57:21.Labour. I'm happy with that. The essence of New Labour was continual

:57:21. > :57:25.renewal. I think he's managed to renew ourselves in the context of

:57:25. > :57:30.today rather than in the 1990s when people like myself were formulating

:57:30. > :57:33.policy, but to do so by keeping himself in a central position to

:57:33. > :57:36.appeal right across society and across the regions and nations of

:57:36. > :57:41.the country. What has he got to do with the unions now? That is the

:57:41. > :57:46.challenge for him, isn't it? It's how to on the one hand keep them on

:57:46. > :57:50.side when they are saying, "Get rid of all the New Labour cuckoos out

:57:50. > :57:53.of the nest" and talking about strike action because they are the

:57:54. > :57:58.backers, they are the big Labour Party backers and this aspirational

:57:58. > :58:04.Labour Party? He has to do what every successful Leader of the

:58:05. > :58:08.Labour Party has done. He has to talk to the trade unionship and...

:58:08. > :58:12.There's a difference. People in this country, whatever they are

:58:12. > :58:16.working in, or even if they are out of work, they understand we have

:58:16. > :58:20.borrowed a lot of money to prevent unemployment scaling out of control

:58:20. > :58:24.during the recession. They also recognise it has to be paid off.

:58:24. > :58:28.You will not persuade them to do so unless they think that everyone is

:58:28. > :58:31.making a sacrifice and as he said, the one with the broadest shoulders

:58:32. > :58:37.are wearing the burden. That is the key. We have to put our viewers out

:58:37. > :58:43.of their misery and give them the answer to Guess The Conference Year

:58:43. > :58:51.competition. It was 1981. John, if you thump that red button, the

:58:51. > :58:58.winner will come up. Go! There we go. John Robertson from Paisley.