11/06/2014

Download Subtitles

Transcript

:00:07. > :00:12.Good morning from the European Parliament in Brussels.

:00:13. > :00:14.The results of the European elections have caused quite

:00:15. > :00:17.a stir in Britain and now our new MEPs are here

:00:18. > :00:21.So just what are they going to get up to?

:00:22. > :00:56.We're live for a special Daily Politics from the heart of Europe.

:00:57. > :00:58.Britain is sending an unprecedented number

:00:59. > :01:03.of euro sceptic MEPs to Brussels - and that's not just from UKIP.

:01:04. > :01:08.We'll have the results of a special Daily Politics survey of MEPs which

:01:09. > :01:11.reveals their views on free movement of people, the euro and whether we

:01:12. > :01:17.Closer to home, there's good news from unemployment figures -

:01:18. > :01:25.But wages are still not keeping pace with prices.

:01:26. > :01:28.The row over who should be the next President of the

:01:29. > :01:32.Germany's Chancellor Merkel has reiterated her support for

:01:33. > :01:44.A member of Mr Juncker's EPP party will join us to argue his case.

:01:45. > :01:46.And Adam's brought his balls to Brussels to find out

:01:47. > :01:54.who people here think has the best vision for Europe.

:01:55. > :02:03.What does Austria think of David Cameron? I like this boy.

:02:04. > :02:06.Bonjour, guten tag, hola, goedendag - you get the gist - welcome to the

:02:07. > :02:13.This is a confusing place for the newly elected MEPs as they try to

:02:14. > :02:17.find their way round the euro-maze, but most of them will already have

:02:18. > :02:20.had a peak at the chamber, just a few metres behind us, where they

:02:21. > :02:24.will debate the issues of the day and pass laws which affect us all.

:02:25. > :02:27.This is a Daily Politics special but fear not, we will still be

:02:28. > :02:30.bringing you PMQs from across the Channel back in dear old Blighty.

:02:31. > :02:33.We've even found a couple of MPs loitering in the Brussels corridors.

:02:34. > :02:37.I give you the Tintin and Snowy of British Politics,

:02:38. > :02:41.Labour's shadow work and pensions minister Chris Bryant and former

:02:42. > :02:57.First this morning, the biggest news in Britain this morning is that

:02:58. > :03:01.unemployment has fallen again - down by 161,000 to 2.16 million in

:03:02. > :03:04.the three months to April, taking the unemployment rate down to 6.6%.

:03:05. > :03:16.But wages are still not keeping pace with prices.

:03:17. > :03:26.Chris, there are now 780,000 more people in work than there were one

:03:27. > :03:33.year ago. It is the biggest rise in 24 years. Why has Britain become

:03:34. > :03:38.such a job-creating machine? I'm delighted all these people are in

:03:39. > :03:44.work. But my concern is that we've seen a 40% increase in the number of

:03:45. > :03:49.people in work now having to claim housing benefit, which is going to

:03:50. > :03:53.come to some ?4.8 billion over the course of this Parliament. That is a

:03:54. > :03:58.dramatic increase in the amount we have to pay a benefit. We don't know

:03:59. > :04:04.from today, but a lot of these jobs are not full-time. Actually, a lot

:04:05. > :04:09.of the increase is in full-time jobs. Well, by definition there will

:04:10. > :04:16.be people on fewer hours than they want to be on. A higher percentage

:04:17. > :04:20.of people on low hours than they would like the we've ever had. And

:04:21. > :04:28.also wages are not keeping up with inflation. My question was, why are

:04:29. > :04:32.we become such a job-creating machine? Most countries represented

:04:33. > :04:38.in this parliament would give their left arm to have an unemployment

:04:39. > :04:42.rate of 6.6%. Well, we had a much longer recession and I think was

:04:43. > :04:46.necessary. We bumped along economic lead for the first three years of

:04:47. > :04:49.this government. Other countries over that period have had much

:04:50. > :04:55.better economic success, but we're getting it now. Apart from Germany

:04:56. > :05:03.they all have higher unemployment rates. As I say, my experience from

:05:04. > :05:07.my constituency in south Wales is a large number of people - and it is a

:05:08. > :05:13.fact all the charities are now showing - that more people in

:05:14. > :05:16.poverty are actually in work than out of work. That just shows we

:05:17. > :05:22.don't have the balance right of making sure work pays. Liam Fox, why

:05:23. > :05:30.are wages still seriously trailing prices? If you look at the figures

:05:31. > :05:39.today it was a 1.7 increase in wages and 1.6% increase in inflation. No,

:05:40. > :05:44.the increase in average earnings year-on-year is 0.9%. The increase

:05:45. > :05:51.in inflation was 1.8%. That was excluding bonuses. No, it was

:05:52. > :06:01.including bonuses. That was not the big eyesore. I can assure you they

:06:02. > :06:09.were the figures released. -- that was not the figure eyesore.

:06:10. > :06:11.were the figures released. -- that true people are finding

:06:12. > :06:14.were the figures released. -- that to make ends meet, the best thing we

:06:15. > :06:19.can do is to get the tax burden down on working people. That can be only

:06:20. > :06:23.done by getting control over public finances. One of the differences

:06:24. > :06:28.between the UK and other countries is we are tackling the deficit. In

:06:29. > :06:31.the UK with Bulls had something most of these other countries don't

:06:32. > :06:38.have, which is a fluctuating currency. You say we are tackling

:06:39. > :06:42.the deficit. Most countries represented in this Parliament have

:06:43. > :06:46.a much smaller deficit in Britain's. Germany, France, Italy,

:06:47. > :06:52.Spain. Even Greece has a smaller deficit. We inherited the biggest

:06:53. > :06:56.peacetime deficit and we had not got it down at the speed some of us

:06:57. > :07:01.would have liked to see. But we have a long-term plan for the economy. If

:07:02. > :07:06.you look at manufacturing figures, up 4.4% from a low base, we are

:07:07. > :07:10.recovering. It is a positive figure that shows the economy is beginning

:07:11. > :07:14.We lost half a manufacturing jobs We lost half a manufacturing jobs

:07:15. > :07:17.touring the years of Labour. We have We lost half a manufacturing jobs

:07:18. > :07:21.a long way to go but this is good news, particularly for youth

:07:22. > :07:30.unemployment. 58% in countries like Spain. We still have high levels of

:07:31. > :07:37.youth and employment in the UK. Even in a constituency like Newark you

:07:38. > :07:42.had 26.5% youth unemployment and long-term youth unemployment. The

:07:43. > :07:46.problem with youth unemployment in particular is, if you don't get your

:07:47. > :07:51.first job, it is not just an economic issue, it ends up being a

:07:52. > :07:58.social problem as well. But it is going down. It was going up when we

:07:59. > :07:59.came to office. No, the government was not in recession and it was

:08:00. > :08:07.going down. We have to move on. The make up

:08:08. > :08:09.of Britain's MEPs is radically If you don't believe me,

:08:10. > :08:12.ask the Lib Dems. So, being

:08:13. > :08:14.the fine public service broadcasters that we are, we thought we would

:08:15. > :08:17.carry out a survey to try to give you a flavour of what our European

:08:18. > :08:20.Parliamentarians believe in. We contacted all 73 MEPs

:08:21. > :08:22.and asked them four questions on the key European issues -

:08:23. > :08:25.EU membership, the Euro, 52 got back to us,

:08:26. > :08:41.so what did we find? UKIP have the biggest contingent

:08:42. > :08:47.within the UK's representation, 24 MEPs, of which 17 took part. As you

:08:48. > :08:51.would expect, they were of one mind, all agreeing the UK should

:08:52. > :08:57.leave the EU if membership could not be changed. That citizens movement

:08:58. > :09:03.should be restricted across borders and that the European Union should

:09:04. > :09:07.not accept new members. What is a prize! They all disagreed with the

:09:08. > :09:15.UK joining the euro, even if the conditions were right. What about

:09:16. > :09:19.the party for whom it Europe is not historically a unifier? All but one

:09:20. > :09:27.of the Tories and said the questionnaire. Most were

:09:28. > :09:30.Eurosceptic. Serve -- 13 MEPs believed we should leave the EU if

:09:31. > :09:35.terms could not be significantly changed. 12 agreed freedom of

:09:36. > :09:39.movement across borders should be restricted and all but one disagreed

:09:40. > :09:45.with the idea of the UK ever joining the euro. That didn't mean they

:09:46. > :09:49.wanted to stop others joining. 12 out of 18 did not think new

:09:50. > :09:53.countries should be stopped from joining the EU. What about more

:09:54. > :10:00.pro-European parties? We spoke to every single Lib Dem MP for our

:10:01. > :10:05.survey - or rather, the single Lib Dem MEP. As you would guess, they

:10:06. > :10:12.disagreed with leaving the EU if membership should be changed. They

:10:13. > :10:14.disagreed with freezing EU enlargement and disagreed with

:10:15. > :10:21.restricting citizens freedom of movement. But, whilst we got pretty

:10:22. > :10:27.straight answers from the Lib Dem, the Tories and UKIP, Labour got

:10:28. > :10:31.themselves into a bit of a struggle. 18 took part before someone high up

:10:32. > :10:36.decided they would not ants are individually but instead give as a

:10:37. > :10:40.group and sub. Out of the eight we spoke to, all eight disagreed with

:10:41. > :10:45.the UK leaving if the terms of membership could not be changed.

:10:46. > :10:50.Most disagreed with restricting freedom of movement and restricting

:10:51. > :10:54.new countries from joining. For agreed with joining the euro, to

:10:55. > :10:58.disagreed and to did not answer. And the rest? Well, we are still waiting

:10:59. > :11:19.for the group statement we were promised. As you heard, Labour said

:11:20. > :11:23.they would give us a response. They said they would consider each new

:11:24. > :11:28.country joining on its merits and while they support free movement

:11:29. > :11:32.they think it's impact should be managed. We speak now to Jane

:11:33. > :11:42.Collins, a brand-new MEP finding her way round the Parliament. Why did

:11:43. > :11:49.Labour make such a fuss about it MEPs and swing these questions,

:11:50. > :11:53.Chris? Sometimes when newspapers do these surveys, they are often based

:11:54. > :12:00.on hypothetical questions, as three of these were, they start with the

:12:01. > :12:04.word "if" and they are not very informative. On the whole, when I

:12:05. > :12:09.get those surveys, I don't do them either. They are quite

:12:10. > :12:17.straightforward questions of our time. What is wrong with a question

:12:18. > :12:23.about whether the European Union should accept new member countries?

:12:24. > :12:28.Well, let's see if another country wants to join. Croatia is in the

:12:29. > :12:32.process of moving towards it. Once it completes that and adopts the

:12:33. > :12:38.whole policy, it probably should join, but that is a moment in the

:12:39. > :12:47.future. So why couldn't you just provide that and so? Well, what you

:12:48. > :12:51.wanted was a yes or a no. So I would say it would be good in the long

:12:52. > :13:00.term if the whole of the Balkans was in such a state that it was able to

:13:01. > :13:05.join the European Union. Take the? Yes, we support Turkey 's eventual

:13:06. > :13:10.membership. You need to have a good understanding of freedom of movement

:13:11. > :13:17.before that could happen. What does better managed freedom of movement

:13:18. > :13:20.mean? I think it is wrong in the UK now that you have companies that

:13:21. > :13:23.advertise the jobs that will only be performed in the United Kingdom

:13:24. > :13:33.which are only advertised in Polish, in Poland. It is morally

:13:34. > :13:38.indefensible, and it is bad economic news. I actually think Brussels

:13:39. > :13:42.should consider that that is not a good way of managing movement as

:13:43. > :13:47.well. So I support free movement but I also want to say a needs to be

:13:48. > :13:50.managed. You need to have laws to make sure local workers are not

:13:51. > :13:55.being permanently undercut from outside. You know that would have no

:13:56. > :14:00.more than a marginal effect on the movement of people. I think it would

:14:01. > :14:04.have a dramatic effect. I will give you another instance. I think it is

:14:05. > :14:08.wrong when I'm scrupulous employers in the UK go to a low-wage economy

:14:09. > :14:12.elsewhere in Europe and take people, effectively trafficked them,

:14:13. > :14:16.because they charge the cost of their travel to the UK and then put

:14:17. > :14:20.them in substandard accommodation in the UK. It is exploitation and it

:14:21. > :14:25.makes it impossible for local workers to gain access to the labour

:14:26. > :14:31.market. How many migrants working now in Britain got their jobs

:14:32. > :14:37.through migrant only job displays? I don't know the answer to that. So

:14:38. > :14:44.how then do you know it would have a dramatic effect? Because I saw many

:14:45. > :14:50.instances of it. That does not mean it is dramatic. If you don't have

:14:51. > :14:52.the numbers, you cannot say that. I think it would be significant. We

:14:53. > :14:56.cannot price local workers out of think it would be significant. We

:14:57. > :14:59.jobs. I think that would make a difference. We also need

:15:00. > :15:02.jobs. I think that would make a difference. barren mind the country

:15:03. > :15:08.in the European Union that has the most nationals living elsewhere in

:15:09. > :15:16.the EU is the UK. 2.5 million. British people living in Spain.

:15:17. > :15:26.Using their board to accept that the huge blood is of immigrants under

:15:27. > :15:42.the Labour years did affect the wages of people? I did not say that.

:15:43. > :15:48.But the number of immigrants... Do you accept it reduced wages, or

:15:49. > :15:51.don't you? I think it had an effect, I don't think it had the dramatic

:15:52. > :15:55.effects some people suggest. I don't think there are millions of other

:15:56. > :15:59.people wanting to come to the UK to take our jobs. I dislike all that

:16:00. > :16:05.language, I think it is inappropriate. Actually,

:16:06. > :16:08.historically, we panic country that has sent people to live and work

:16:09. > :16:23.abroad and we've also accepted a lot of people into the UK. Should the UK

:16:24. > :16:28.leave the EU if terms cannot be changed? If we are to continue on

:16:29. > :16:34.the current trajectory, I would rather leave them stay under those

:16:35. > :16:39.terms. I hope we can get a looser relationship. What I would like to

:16:40. > :16:43.see is to go back to a much looser relationship. The only thing Britain

:16:44. > :16:46.has ever given its assent to in terms of the population was the

:16:47. > :16:49.common market. I think most people would like to have an economic and

:16:50. > :16:56.trading relationship with Europe but they don't want all the other things

:16:57. > :16:59.that have come along over time. How easily could reverse those will be

:17:00. > :17:07.the key question. And the common market involved the freemen movement

:17:08. > :17:11.of people. I would look at it from a different point of view. In the UK,

:17:12. > :17:16.given the position that we have, with the migration we have had in

:17:17. > :17:21.recent years, why can't we be more like Canada or Australia and have a

:17:22. > :17:26.point system? Because they are not members of the EU, we are committed

:17:27. > :17:32.a basic founding rule of the club. Exactly, one of the basic messages

:17:33. > :17:36.we have had from the elections is that the publishing of Europe see

:17:37. > :17:40.control of their borders as being synonymous with sovereignty. This

:17:41. > :17:43.macro population of Europe. That is a key issue because the Brussels

:17:44. > :17:48.bureaucracy and some of the European leaders don't want to accept that

:17:49. > :17:54.point. But the populations of Europe no longer want to have open borders.

:17:55. > :17:57.If you can have free movement more related to employment, so people

:17:58. > :18:02.have jobs to come to and create wealth in the country, that is one

:18:03. > :18:08.thing. But people coming speculatively is something the

:18:09. > :18:13.public no longer accepts. Before we move onto UKIP, should David say

:18:14. > :18:19.that if he can't get a major repatriation of powers, then he

:18:20. > :18:25.would recommend leaving the EU? I am not good put words in his mouth. I

:18:26. > :18:31.wouldn't advise him in public. What would you advise him in private? My

:18:32. > :18:34.view is if we cannot get a change in their relationship, I would

:18:35. > :18:40.personally rather leave them stay on the current trajectory, because the

:18:41. > :18:47.me, the logical end stage of ever closer union is union, and I don't

:18:48. > :18:51.want to be part of that. Let's speak to the newly elected UKIP MP for

:18:52. > :18:59.Yorkshire and the Humber. Is it true you struggling to find partners? We

:19:00. > :19:03.have made significant progress in the last few days but that is up to

:19:04. > :19:07.Nigel to discuss but I think we will form a group, yes. Why have you

:19:08. > :19:13.rejected working with the National front in France? They may share a

:19:14. > :19:19.Eurosceptic view but not the rest of our views. To start with, the racist

:19:20. > :19:25.element of her party is something we can't accept. Who would you like to

:19:26. > :19:31.join with in the European Parliament to further you wanting Britain to

:19:32. > :19:39.withdraw from the EU? As many Eurosceptics as you can stop -- as

:19:40. > :19:43.we can. I'm going to leave it with Nigel to announce when he has things

:19:44. > :19:49.finalised. Do you know who he has been talking to? I think he has got

:19:50. > :19:54.to announce that. But you are not worried about where you're going to

:19:55. > :19:58.be standing in future. What about the president of the European

:19:59. > :20:03.Commission, presumably you will not be backing Jean-Claude Juncker as a

:20:04. > :20:06.federalist, who are you backing? It is a difficult question for me to

:20:07. > :20:13.ask, because we want withdrawal from the use whichever president you look

:20:14. > :20:20.at, it is for more integration. So we're really not going to back any

:20:21. > :20:23.particular president. But you topped the poll, admittedly with your

:20:24. > :20:28.Eurosceptic agenda, but is the idea then just to frustrate, distort, go

:20:29. > :20:34.against everything, what was the point? Definitely not. We are a

:20:35. > :20:39.democratic party fighting for freedom, for the control of our

:20:40. > :20:44.borders back, and within the EU, we are here to be the eyes and ears of

:20:45. > :20:47.the people that voted for us and stop yes, we are going to get

:20:48. > :20:51.involved in the voting system on things that should be voted for or

:20:52. > :20:59.against, but we're not actually hear to be part of this enormous,

:21:00. > :21:07.out-of-control union. So yes, we're not going to be obstructive or

:21:08. > :21:14.rude... What are you going to vote on, give me some examples? At this

:21:15. > :21:19.moment in time, with it being my second day... ! I think I'm going to

:21:20. > :21:23.skip that one! You say you're not going to be obstructive, but you are

:21:24. > :21:28.here, you will be claiming your salary and your fellow UKIP MPs,

:21:29. > :21:31.people out there, you may be the eyes and ears of people who voted

:21:32. > :21:37.for you but what will you do tangibly? We have got to look at the

:21:38. > :21:45.thing is controlled by the EU, energy, immigration, the euro and

:21:46. > :21:50.what directives and legislation. All these things have a negative impact

:21:51. > :21:54.on individual countries, and we are here to make sure that the

:21:55. > :21:59.directives that are put through, the people who are voted for us, they

:22:00. > :22:03.know the impact they are going to have at home. Also about the dilute

:22:04. > :22:08.of useless legislation that comes out about the shape of bananas and

:22:09. > :22:12.where you can import your melons from and ridiculous things that gets

:22:13. > :22:20.spewed out everyday. Chris Bryant will say those are myths. It is just

:22:21. > :22:25.nonsense. Next week, if you want, I will put the directive in front of

:22:26. > :22:31.you. Why are you rolling your eyes? What most voters in Britain want, I

:22:32. > :22:35.grant that most of them are Eurosceptic, but I think they would

:22:36. > :22:41.want MEPs who will genuinely engage in the process here. Directives

:22:42. > :22:45.about working at height, for instance, will make an instant as to

:22:46. > :22:51.whether people die at work. Having the same rules... Can't our own

:22:52. > :22:57.government decide those? Do we need a European Union to tell us what

:22:58. > :23:03.height we can work? As I understand it, you want a shared market. You

:23:04. > :23:11.want a common market. For a common market committee need to have the

:23:12. > :23:17.same rules. Of course you do. What do our own MPs do if you can't

:23:18. > :23:24.decide that for ourselves? There is a lot of agreement between your

:23:25. > :23:28.view, Liam Fox, and UKIP. But there is a key question about the single

:23:29. > :23:33.market, which is whether it should be a market of mutual recognition,

:23:34. > :23:36.or whether it is a market of harmonisation. We have gone down the

:23:37. > :23:43.route of harmonisation, so we have imported lots of laws we don't need

:23:44. > :23:46.for the single market to function. There is a huge space and where we

:23:47. > :23:50.do agree is that there are lots of rules made in Brussels that should

:23:51. > :23:54.be made by national governments or not made by national governments if

:23:55. > :24:00.that is what they decide. What is the level running messages is across

:24:01. > :24:05.the continent, citizens don't like the direction of travel and they

:24:06. > :24:12.want more control over their own legislation. Where I think this is

:24:13. > :24:15.misguided is the vast majority of people now live their lives, not

:24:16. > :24:22.just within one country, they travel, they go on holiday, their

:24:23. > :24:27.work may happen elsewhere within Europe or whether their company...

:24:28. > :24:33.People go to work in America, we don't need the same laws. But one in

:24:34. > :24:38.four people go to Spain every, one in six go to Greece. The largest

:24:39. > :24:44.investor in the UK is French. Consequently, you do need... There

:24:45. > :24:47.is no point in turning our backs on the reality of life, which is an

:24:48. > :24:53.interconnected world and an interconnected Europe. Can I just

:24:54. > :24:59.check, you said it was Labour policy to support Croatia's membership of

:25:00. > :25:05.the EU? In the long term, it is not finished as a process. It joined in

:25:06. > :25:10.July last year! Well done! You have caught me. Croatia became a full

:25:11. > :25:14.member in July one, 2013. Now news reaches me that there is

:25:15. > :25:17.some sort of soccer tournament starting tomorrow - it

:25:18. > :25:19.will never catch on - there is another competition that is

:25:20. > :25:22.almost as fiercely contested. Apparently the race to complete

:25:23. > :25:30.the albums has reached a fever pitch with thousands

:25:31. > :25:34.of grown men and even some women doing anything to get hold

:25:35. > :25:39.of their last remaining stickers. Well, I've got some bad news

:25:40. > :25:45.for them, because there's I speak of course

:25:46. > :25:48.of the country's finest - Of course, the sticker that everyone

:25:49. > :25:59.wants is the one no one can have - We won't swap it for a Lampard, a

:26:00. > :26:08.Messi, a Rooney or even a Ronaldo, because there's only one way you

:26:09. > :26:11.can get your hands on one of these. We'll remind you how to enter

:26:12. > :26:19.in a minute, but let's see if you We didn't want a confrontation with

:26:20. > :27:11.the countryside but he has got one. Countries coming into Europe share

:27:12. > :27:55.our view of Europe as a Europe of independent nation states.

:27:56. > :28:02.answer to our special quiz email address - that's dpquiz@bbc.co.uk.

:28:03. > :28:05.And you can see the full terms and conditions for Guess The Year

:28:06. > :28:16.It's nearly 1 o'clock here but by the magic of television we can

:28:17. > :28:21.go over to Big Ben and see that it's coming up to midday in London -

:28:22. > :28:27.Yes, the first Prime Minister's Questions since the Queen's Speech

:28:28. > :28:39.If you'd like to comment on proceedings, you can email us:

:28:40. > :28:41.or tweet your thoughts using the hashtag #bbcdp -

:28:42. > :28:47.And I'm pleased to say as a special treat the BBC's

:28:48. > :28:49.Political Correspondent Ben Wright, who's just been following David

:28:50. > :29:07.He is joining us today. What are they going to talk about at PMQ 's?

:29:08. > :29:13.We have unemployment figures. What will Mr Miliband go on? He may be

:29:14. > :29:18.tempted to torment the promised more on Theresa May and Michael Gove,

:29:19. > :29:25.they had that awkward moment, separated only by Eric pickles. The

:29:26. > :29:29.and implement figures are difficult for Labour, they are positive news

:29:30. > :29:32.for the government but there is that slowdown in wage growth which plays

:29:33. > :29:38.straight into their argument about the cost of living. There is a

:29:39. > :29:43.passport fiasco story that is brewing at the moment in

:29:44. > :29:46.Westminster. Theresa May a game, backlog of passports. The unions are

:29:47. > :29:52.saying about half a million now have been delayed. Holidays being

:29:53. > :29:56.scuppered, the sort of story that can really be problematic for the

:29:57. > :30:01.government. This is a story that cuts through to people watching this

:30:02. > :30:07.programme, way outside the Westminster village. It licks and

:30:08. > :30:15.administratively problematic for the government in terms of mishandling a

:30:16. > :30:22.basic thing I had about ten of 15 and people then lost their holidays.

:30:23. > :30:27.People say, you should have sent in your passport for renewal earlier

:30:28. > :30:33.but often you can't because you have got to work, you have a commitment

:30:34. > :30:36.you to go abroad for. The passport office had built a repetition could

:30:37. > :30:46.be one of the most efficient government agencies around. It was

:30:47. > :30:53.turned around. The unions are saying it as a consequence of office

:30:54. > :30:57.closures and job cuts. One minister was saying, there is a bit of a

:30:58. > :31:04.problem, but it's evidence of a booming economy that people want to

:31:05. > :31:14.go on holiday again. That will go down well if it's your one annual

:31:15. > :31:25.holiday! But in order to go abroad you have to have a passport. Last

:31:26. > :31:38.night there was saying there had been a sudden increase in numbers

:31:39. > :31:47.and an unpredictable rise. They felt there was more money.

:31:48. > :31:56.I wish the England football team the very best of British before their

:31:57. > :32:09.first World Cup game on Saturday. This morning, I had meetings with

:32:10. > :32:25.colleagues I wish every team in the World Cup good luck! That has been a

:32:26. > :32:35.decision. If we continue at this rate, it is going to take 40 years

:32:36. > :32:40.for everyone to get as -- assessed. Is that acceptable? It is important

:32:41. > :32:43.when we introduce these new benefit it is done in a way that works well.

:32:44. > :32:50.So I would say it is very important not to have artificial deadlines

:32:51. > :32:56.replacing one benefit with another. The whole point about the personal

:32:57. > :32:59.independence payment is it is more accurate and targeted than

:33:00. > :33:03.disability living allowance. It will mean more help for those with the

:33:04. > :33:08.greatest disabilities, and I am determined to get it right. With the

:33:09. > :33:12.Prime Minister join me in congratulating the Foreign Secretary

:33:13. > :33:19.on organising this week 's important global summit to end sexual

:33:20. > :33:22.violence? It is indeed time to act. It is a huge credit to the Foreign

:33:23. > :33:27.Secretary for the work he has done and I would like to pay tribute to

:33:28. > :33:32.all of the NGOs across the world who come together for this extraordinary

:33:33. > :33:37.summit in London. It is vital we never forget about the victims of

:33:38. > :33:42.sexual violence in conflict. This is something far too prevalent in our

:33:43. > :33:47.world, but real advances have been made by having a declaration for

:33:48. > :33:49.countries to sign up to, and more importantly an action plan to

:33:50. > :33:57.prosecute wrongdoers and make sure they are punished. We must listen to

:33:58. > :34:08.the destiny -- testimony of survivors. Mr Ed Miliband. Let me

:34:09. > :34:13.join the Prime Minister in wishing England the best of luck in the

:34:14. > :34:18.World Cup. I'm sure the whole of the country will be behind them. Now,

:34:19. > :34:22.everyone will of been concerned about what is happening in certain

:34:23. > :34:26.schools in Birmingham, including girls forced to sit at the back of

:34:27. > :34:31.the class and the forced removal of head teachers. It is about a failure

:34:32. > :34:36.of local and national accountability. The key question for

:34:37. > :34:39.parents is this. If there is a serious problem at their school,

:34:40. > :34:44.where did they go to get it sorted out? First, let me echo what the

:34:45. > :34:50.Right Honourable member has said about how important it is to get a

:34:51. > :34:55.grip on this issue. The problem of Islamic extremism in schools is

:34:56. > :35:00.serious wherever it happens. I am determined, as is the Home Secretary

:35:01. > :35:05.and the Education Secretary, indeed the whole government, to make sure

:35:06. > :35:08.this is unacceptable in our country. People should be being taught in a

:35:09. > :35:13.way that makes sure they can play a full part in the life of our

:35:14. > :35:17.country. In terms of where you go to if you are concerned about what is

:35:18. > :35:25.happening in your school, firstly you go to the chair of governors and

:35:26. > :35:29.the headteacher. While I hope we can forge real unity across the House of

:35:30. > :35:35.Commons on combating Islamists extremism in our schools, I hope it

:35:36. > :35:39.is not used as an agenda to try and knock down successful school

:35:40. > :35:42.formats, whether Academy is created under the last government, all three

:35:43. > :35:51.schools graded under this government. There is certainly a

:35:52. > :35:54.degree on common ground, but the Prime Minister said people should go

:35:55. > :35:58.to the cherub governors or the headteacher. In certain cases, the

:35:59. > :36:03.headteacher was removed and the governing body was part of the

:36:04. > :36:08.problem. The truth is, it is a hard question to answer as to who parents

:36:09. > :36:14.should go to. We have an incredibly fragmented school system when no one

:36:15. > :36:21.is properly responsible. Some of the schools were local authority schools

:36:22. > :36:25.and some of them were academies, but what parents want is someone

:36:26. > :36:34.responsible on a day-to-day basis who can intervene quickly when

:36:35. > :36:40.things go wrong. We want to safeguard all schools. As I said,

:36:41. > :36:44.the first port of call is the headteacher and the chair of

:36:45. > :36:51.governors. If people believe there is a real problem, there is one

:36:52. > :36:56.organisation that has responsibility and that is Ofsted, of course. That

:36:57. > :37:01.is why it is so important what the Education Secretary has said about

:37:02. > :37:04.no notice inspections. What the leader of the opposition just asked

:37:05. > :37:11.is how can this happen quickly? Well, it will happen quickly if we

:37:12. > :37:15.have these no notice inspections. This is an important debate. If we

:37:16. > :37:20.are saying there is only one model of accountability that will work and

:37:21. > :37:24.some people in this house believes the only model of accountability is

:37:25. > :37:29.local government accountability, it is worth making the point that

:37:30. > :37:43.Birmingham City Council failed in their Judy to be 's parents. That

:37:44. > :37:55.night bed duty to be 's parents. So yes let us learn the lessons, but

:37:56. > :38:00.they must be the right lessons. It is definitely worth making the point

:38:01. > :38:04.about local academies. But on the issue of Ofsted inspections, they

:38:05. > :38:12.may happen only once every five years. That is not the

:38:13. > :38:16.accountability that is needed. Surely nobody believes the

:38:17. > :38:19.Department for Education can run 20,000 schools from Whitehall. Maybe

:38:20. > :38:27.this secretary of state believes that, but I don't think so. Nobody

:38:28. > :38:36.is arguing to go back to the local authority system. Isn't it time...

:38:37. > :38:41.If they just listen to the question... Isn't it time for a

:38:42. > :38:45.proper system of local oversight, separate from councils, responsible

:38:46. > :38:51.for standards at all schools, to prevent what happened in Birmingham

:38:52. > :38:54.happening elsewhere? I have to say I always listen very carefully to

:38:55. > :38:57.these proposals, but this sounds like creating a new local

:38:58. > :39:01.bureaucracy when we need to make sure that the resources are going

:39:02. > :39:06.into the schools for the teachers and the computers and the books and

:39:07. > :39:11.the equipment? He says and Ofsted inspection can only take place every

:39:12. > :39:18.five years. The point about these no notice inspections, if we're going

:39:19. > :39:23.to give this issue the it deserves, that a report about these problems

:39:24. > :39:26.could result in an instant inspection and instant action. Let

:39:27. > :39:31.me make one other point. It is often said some of these new formats for

:39:32. > :39:36.schools or free academies, which I thought the party opposite

:39:37. > :39:40.supported, that they don't act as fast as local authority schools. In

:39:41. > :39:45.fact, completely the opposite is the case. When there has been a problem

:39:46. > :39:49.in three schools or academies, far faster action has been taken on many

:39:50. > :39:56.of the local authority schools that have been left in a state of failure

:39:57. > :40:01.for far too long. I do have to say to him he is no answer to this

:40:02. > :40:06.question of accountability. Ofsted inspections are just not going to do

:40:07. > :40:10.the job and everybody knows it. Mr Speaker, I want to turn from the

:40:11. > :40:15.failures in the education Department to the failures in the Home Office.

:40:16. > :40:18.Can the Prime Minister update the house on the backlog of people

:40:19. > :40:24.waiting for their passport applications to be processed? The

:40:25. > :40:26.situation with the passport agency is extremely important to get right.

:40:27. > :40:30.I is extremely important to get right.

:40:31. > :40:36.they want to be able to go on holiday. We have three and a

:40:37. > :40:43.thousand extra applications than is normal at this time of year. We've

:40:44. > :40:47.increased massively the staff. The level of applications outside the

:40:48. > :40:54.normal three-week limit is less than 10% of that 300,000. Mr Speaker, the

:40:55. > :40:58.truth is that is tens of thousands of people finding that holidays are

:40:59. > :41:05.being cancelled because they are not actually getting a passport. He says

:41:06. > :41:10.they have increased the resources of the passport agency - that is not

:41:11. > :41:13.the case. There are greater responsibilities for the passport

:41:14. > :41:17.agencies since 2010 and fewer resources. Will the Prime Minister

:41:18. > :41:24.tell the house when the government first learnt about this problem? The

:41:25. > :41:30.government has taken action to deal with this problem not today but in

:41:31. > :41:35.past weeks. We've got 250 staff already redeployed to the front

:41:36. > :41:41.line, prioritising all outstanding applications. That will allow for an

:41:42. > :41:48.extra 25,000 examinations. Look, people will want to hear the

:41:49. > :41:53.answers! Order! Mr Robertson, you do have something of a lion 's roar and

:41:54. > :41:58.it lets you down because I can hear clearly it is you. As the EU, Mr

:41:59. > :42:03.Lucas, I've told you you need to go on some sort of therapeutic training

:42:04. > :42:12.course if you are to ascend to the level of statesmanship to which US

:42:13. > :42:21.buyer. Let us hear the answer. -- to which you aspire. The Home Secretary

:42:22. > :42:25.has announced today new offices will be opened in Liverpool next week

:42:26. > :42:29.with an additional 100 staff. The Home Office has been on this from

:42:30. > :42:34.the very start. It all begins with three and a thousand extra people

:42:35. > :42:48.applying for passports compared with last year. -- with 300,000 extra

:42:49. > :42:53.people. He says the government is sorting out the problem, but there

:42:54. > :42:57.are tens of thousands of people we understand waiting for their

:42:58. > :43:02.applications to be processed and who are finding that holidays are being

:43:03. > :43:05.cancelled. We're the Home Secretary fighting with the Education

:43:06. > :43:12.Secretary but not paying attention to the business of government. Here

:43:13. > :43:16.is the thing. To add insult to injury, people are being told if

:43:17. > :43:21.they want their applications processed in the three-week target

:43:22. > :43:25.they have to pay ?55 extra. Can the primers to get a grip on the

:43:26. > :43:34.situation and paid families when the backlog will be cleared? It will be

:43:35. > :43:37.cleared, not least because we are not wasting time with the National

:43:38. > :43:43.identity card scheme we inherited from the party opposite. Isn't it

:43:44. > :43:49.interesting, Mr Speaker, not a word about the unemployment figures? He

:43:50. > :43:52.simply cannot bear the fact in our country we now have 2 million more

:43:53. > :44:00.people in work in the private sector. He cannot stand the fact

:44:01. > :44:04.unemployment has fallen yet again. The claimant count has come down. He

:44:05. > :44:12.is allergic to good news because he knows that as our economy gets

:44:13. > :44:20.stronger comic he gets weaker. -- stronger, he gets weaker. It is now

:44:21. > :44:26.28 years since the devastating event happened in chin bar and the effects

:44:27. > :44:33.are still being felt, especially by children. Last year, we cancelled

:44:34. > :44:37.visitation rights for many children. Since charging for visas, we've seen

:44:38. > :44:40.a 50% reduction in these young people being able to come to counter

:44:41. > :44:48.the UK for respite, will he reconsider that? I'm happy to

:44:49. > :44:53.reconsider it. We all remember the horrific event. Obviously, we charge

:44:54. > :44:56.for visas because we have to cover the cost of operations to make sure

:44:57. > :45:01.we protect ourselves from people who should not come here, but I will

:45:02. > :45:07.look carefully at what he has said and perhaps I will write to him.

:45:08. > :45:12.Will the Prime Minister agree that now more than ever we need to build

:45:13. > :45:19.a strong and robust civil society? 100 years ago this August, the war

:45:20. > :45:24.broke out which killed 16 million and devastated communities. The lack

:45:25. > :45:29.of active participation in politics is declining rapidly, only 34% of

:45:30. > :45:36.people boated in the recent elections. Can we agree to meet on a

:45:37. > :45:42.cross-party basis to look at citizenship in this country in a

:45:43. > :45:54.serious way so we can look at how to encourage active citizenship? I

:45:55. > :45:56.think people feel that these institutions are rather distant to

:45:57. > :46:04.them and they don't feel the relevance. I would prefer that we

:46:05. > :46:07.put our resources and effort into practical programmes, like national

:46:08. > :46:12.citizens service, which I think it's a superb service that many young

:46:13. > :46:16.people are taking part in the vacancy the importance of engaging

:46:17. > :46:22.in their communities and the world. That will lead to greater political

:46:23. > :46:28.participation. Will the primers to join me in welcoming the 2 million

:46:29. > :46:33.new private-sector jobs... The Prime Minister join me. And will he

:46:34. > :46:40.continue with the long-term economic plans to make sure that figure will

:46:41. > :46:46.go up? I think he makes an important point, this is a milestone we have

:46:47. > :46:48.reached, there are 2 million more private-sector jobs than when this

:46:49. > :46:54.government came into office, 2 million reasons for sticking to the

:46:55. > :46:57.long-term economic plan. Can I thank him particularly for the work he has

:46:58. > :47:02.done for his constituents in terms of running job club after job club

:47:03. > :47:05.to help make sure that the businesses that need more workers

:47:06. > :47:09.are put in touch with the people looking for a job. It is a vitally

:47:10. > :47:16.important service that MPs are delivering. Given the revelation

:47:17. > :47:20.that the royal prerogative of Mercy has been granted in at least 16

:47:21. > :47:25.cases related to terrorism in the days and weeks following the Belfast

:47:26. > :47:31.agreement, and cases stretching back to the 1980s, would see

:47:32. > :47:36.minister-macro agree in the interest of openness and transparency and

:47:37. > :47:41.justice, and cases here in Britain itself, that he should be

:47:42. > :47:46.intervening to ensure that the circumstances of these exercising of

:47:47. > :47:53.royal prerogative should be repealed so people will know the facts of

:47:54. > :48:01.these cases? I will look very carefully at what the honourable

:48:02. > :48:06.gentleman says about this. The last government had to make some very

:48:07. > :48:10.difficult decisions to get the peace process working. I don't want to

:48:11. > :48:14.second-guess those difficult decisions because what we have in

:48:15. > :48:20.Northern Ireland now, yes we have frustrations and difficulties, and

:48:21. > :48:22.we have the basic architecture of devolution and parties working

:48:23. > :48:30.together across historic divide and I don't want to put that at risk.

:48:31. > :48:37.Today's employment figures show that implement is down by 37% since May

:48:38. > :48:42.2010, in Kingswood. I have held eight jobs fairs advertising

:48:43. > :48:46.hundreds of local jobs, just some of the 2 million private sector jobs

:48:47. > :48:50.created since this government. But there are still more to do. I am

:48:51. > :48:55.launching the Kingswood Challenger today, and mentoring or job

:48:56. > :48:59.fostering scheme where local business leaders will be paired with

:49:00. > :49:05.local people looking for work, helping provide them with one-to-one

:49:06. > :49:10.support. Can I thank him for what he's doing, to put people touch with

:49:11. > :49:13.businesses, this is absolutely key, because there is no complacency on

:49:14. > :49:16.the side of the house about unemployment whatsoever, youth

:49:17. > :49:22.unemployment, long-term unemployment, we need to remove

:49:23. > :49:28.these scourges from our country. We have a goal of full employment and

:49:29. > :49:32.the way to achieve that is not simply through a growing economy but

:49:33. > :49:34.the way to achieve that is not also by making sure we help people,

:49:35. > :49:41.train people and give them all that is necessary to get a job.

:49:42. > :49:46.Shockingly, one in three children in the north-east are now living in

:49:47. > :49:53.poverty, it is the highest rate in the UK. Significantly, two out of

:49:54. > :49:57.three young people who are living in poverty are living in working

:49:58. > :50:01.households now. With the prime Minster agree with me that something

:50:02. > :50:06.has gone sadly wrong with regards to child poverty and can he say,

:50:07. > :50:13.please, please tell me where it all went wrong in the first place? What

:50:14. > :50:18.I would say to the honourable gentleman is that the best route out

:50:19. > :50:23.of poverty is work. If we look at the north-east, the number of people

:50:24. > :50:28.employed in the north-east is up by 47,000 over the last year. That's

:50:29. > :50:32.what's happening in the north-east. I know Labour want to have this

:50:33. > :50:38.narrative in our country but let me give them some facts. Inequality is

:50:39. > :50:43.at its lowest since 1986. There are 300,000 fewer children in child

:50:44. > :50:46.poverty than when I became Prime Minister, half a million fewer

:50:47. > :50:54.people in relative poverty then at the election. Mr Campbell, when you

:50:55. > :50:59.are eating curry, in the Kennington tenderer, you don't yell across the

:51:00. > :51:07.restaurant. Don't yell across the floor of this house! What we need to

:51:08. > :51:12.do is tackle the causes of poverty. Underachievement at home, drug

:51:13. > :51:17.addiction, that is what drives this government, there are 250,000 fewer

:51:18. > :51:32.children in failing schools than when we took office. A toss of

:51:33. > :51:37.taking even longer to carry out medical assessments, they are rotten

:51:38. > :51:43.to send assessors to Argyll and Bute. Will the Prime Minister tell

:51:44. > :51:46.them that they should not discriminate against people in this

:51:47. > :51:52.way and they must receive their assessment as quickly as in the rest

:51:53. > :51:57.of the country? BC there are challenges, particularly in

:51:58. > :52:01.far-flung rural like his, but we have to make sure that those people

:52:02. > :52:06.get their assessments properly carried out but these assessments

:52:07. > :52:10.are important. The whole point is we don't want to leave people on

:52:11. > :52:14.unemployment or other benefits year after year, we want these tests and

:52:15. > :52:22.assessments properly carried out so we can see if they are applicable

:52:23. > :52:26.and what help they need to get work. Did the Prime Minister's intention

:52:27. > :52:30.to legislate to help people with the cost and insecurity of renting their

:52:31. > :52:40.homes lose its slot in a packed Queen 's speech, in the plan to ban

:52:41. > :52:45.plastic bags ordered him not have any proposals in the first place?

:52:46. > :52:50.The government is ensuring we build more houses, that is what we need to

:52:51. > :52:54.do. Yes, we need greater transparency in terms of what

:52:55. > :52:57.letting agencies do and we are delivering that, that is part of our

:52:58. > :53:05.programme, but I don't believe our policy of rent controls which we

:53:06. > :53:14.have told would put up rents, is the answer. Metal fabricators, hydraulic

:53:15. > :53:17.fitters, CMC turners, mechanical engineers and vehicle maintenance

:53:18. > :53:25.apprenticeships are just some of the real jobs for local people on offer

:53:26. > :53:30.at my jobs there. -- jobs fair. With the news that 2 million private

:53:31. > :53:35.sector jobs have been created since 2010, will he continue to support

:53:36. > :53:42.those who are creating real jobs and quality apprenticeships? Absolutely.

:53:43. > :53:47.The point he makes is a good one, we are seeing a rebalancing of our

:53:48. > :53:51.economy. Manufacturing figures, with a growth in manufacturing, all the

:53:52. > :53:56.elements of GDP, construction, manufacturing, growing. We want to

:53:57. > :54:00.see a recovery which is broadly based across the different sectors.

:54:01. > :54:04.When it comes to the figures today, you can see pay levels in industries

:54:05. > :54:12.like many factoring and services rather than... Last week, the Right

:54:13. > :54:18.Honourable member for Schlitz said that people in the UK have not yet

:54:19. > :54:22.felt any sense of recovery -- Rushcliffe. Today the ONS confirmed

:54:23. > :54:27.that in the north-east, full-time workers are ?36 a week worse off

:54:28. > :54:33.than they were last year. Does the prime ministers agree with his

:54:34. > :54:36.Cabinet colleague? There are 47,000 more people in work in the

:54:37. > :54:43.north-east than there were a year ago. The best route out of poverty

:54:44. > :54:46.is work. What that needs to be followed by the tax reductions that

:54:47. > :54:56.this government is bringing on to make sure that you are in work and

:54:57. > :55:00.better off in work. The company based in my constituency have

:55:01. > :55:05.increased their turnover by 10% to over ?2 billion last year. They have

:55:06. > :55:09.increased their workforce significantly, contributing to the 2

:55:10. > :55:14.million private sector jobs created under this government. On top of

:55:15. > :55:19.that they have just been voted European family business of the

:55:20. > :55:25.year. Will he join me in congratulating them and agree to

:55:26. > :55:29.visit this British success story? I'm sure I will be visiting his

:55:30. > :55:33.constituency before long. I join him in congratulating this great British

:55:34. > :55:37.company, I believe they came with me to China where we were pushing

:55:38. > :55:42.speeders as hard as we could, including getting them on a vital

:55:43. > :55:48.Chinese equivalent to Amazon, to make sure that they could be sold.

:55:49. > :55:56.Happy to come and visit, this is part of the economic success story

:55:57. > :56:00.of our country. On Monday, I am going to the UN to address a number

:56:01. > :56:06.of member states and to present a cross-party petition in support of

:56:07. > :56:10.the inclusion of the right to healthy early childhood in the new

:56:11. > :56:19.post 2015 millennium development goals. This petition has been signed

:56:20. > :56:26.by people from 170 countries. Can I therefore ask the Prime Minister to

:56:27. > :56:31.support, with his advocacy and support of his government, this

:56:32. > :56:34.leadership by the United Nations to create benefit for at least 200

:56:35. > :56:41.million of the world 's poorest children? I patiently to the Right

:56:42. > :56:47.Honourable Lady and what she's doing in this area. Britain has tried to a

:56:48. > :56:51.leading role in making sure there is a replacement for the millennium

:56:52. > :56:55.development goals. I co-authored a report about what should be put in

:56:56. > :56:58.their place. At the heart of this was the idea of better maternal

:56:59. > :57:04.health and health services for women in childbirth. Very happy to look at

:57:05. > :57:10.the proposal she makes and make sure we put the full weight of the

:57:11. > :57:13.British government behind it. Could I join my right honourable friend in

:57:14. > :57:18.wishing the England football team every success at the World Cup.

:57:19. > :57:24.Could I also raise one of the darker aspects of the beautiful game.

:57:25. > :57:29.Recently one of my constituents were seriously assaulted while refereeing

:57:30. > :57:33.a local football game by one of the players on the field. He was very

:57:34. > :57:36.seriously injured. Could I ask the Prime Minister what steps the

:57:37. > :57:40.government is taking to ensure that violence, whether it occurs on the

:57:41. > :57:46.field or off the field, is treated with equal seriousness and is never

:57:47. > :57:50.tolerated? He makes an important point, we all support the England

:57:51. > :57:54.football team, it's good to say that again, but it is really important we

:57:55. > :57:58.crack down on all forms of bad behaviour, whether on or off the

:57:59. > :58:03.pitch. Referees should have the full protection of the Lord Mitchell

:58:04. > :58:13.community football is safe and enjoyable. I pay tribute the FA,

:58:14. > :58:19.spending the importance of respect in our game. I'm afraid I might have

:58:20. > :58:24.nightmares this evening about the Prime Minister modelling speedos but

:58:25. > :58:31.I thank him for sharing that image with us! On a more serious

:58:32. > :58:33.I thank him for sharing that image Scotland alone, since this Prime

:58:34. > :58:40.Minister took office, the number of people reporting to be forced into

:58:41. > :58:46.using loan sharks is up 57%, it is estimated as a total of 85,000

:58:47. > :58:51.people in Scotland. Can I ask the Prime Minister what his government

:58:52. > :58:57.is going to do about this? That we reassure the honourable lady that

:58:58. > :59:05.speedos do also make shorts, so if I can clear that picture out of her

:59:06. > :59:09.mind... ! On this issue... Look, there is a series of issues that

:59:10. > :59:14.Honourable members quite rightly raise, that we need to properly

:59:15. > :59:18.tackle to make sure that we make sure everyone in the country

:59:19. > :59:22.benefits from economic recovery, on the minimum wage, which was

:59:23. > :59:31.declining, became PM, it is now increasing. Unserer hours contracts,

:59:32. > :59:35.legislation to get rid of it -- zero hours contracts. On payday lending,

:59:36. > :59:42.now being properly credited with a cap on payday lending. On the wage,

:59:43. > :59:53.the penalties not playing it have been quadrupled under this

:59:54. > :59:56.government. -- on minimum wage. The Prime Minister must know that every

:59:57. > :59:59.member of this has collectively and jointly shares at total repugnance

:00:00. > :00:02.that a young woman has been sentenced to 100 lashes and the

:00:03. > :00:10.death penalty simply for wanting to practice her faith. Will he request

:00:11. > :00:15.the UK delegations to the UN Council on human rights to press the case

:00:16. > :00:23.that the concept of apostasy is in and total conflict with the UN

:00:24. > :00:32.Convention on human rights and will he reassure the house that the

:00:33. > :00:38.Sudanese government has left us in no doubt what apparent they are held

:00:39. > :00:45.in. If you share his apparent about the way this case has been treated,

:00:46. > :00:49.it is barbaric. I can confirm we will be raising this case at the

:00:50. > :00:52.forthcoming UN human rights Council, Sudan is on the agenda at

:00:53. > :00:58.this council and we should ring the full weight of everything Britain

:00:59. > :01:05.can do to make clear the acceptable way the woman has been treated. It

:01:06. > :01:08.is good of him to wish the England football team every luck but with

:01:09. > :01:12.this Cabinet split and the coalition fractured, should he not be picking

:01:13. > :01:22.up the phone to Roy Hodgson and asking for some tips on team

:01:23. > :01:29.discipline? I wouldn't want to offer Roy to much advice but what I would

:01:30. > :01:32.say about this government... We have had the same chancellor for four

:01:33. > :01:38.years and we have record growth in this country. We have the same Home

:01:39. > :01:42.Secretary and we have had record falls in crime, the same Education

:01:43. > :01:47.Secretary and we have too much and 50,000 fewer children in failing

:01:48. > :02:09.schools. -- too much and 50 fewer children.

:02:10. > :02:14.The Prime Minister will have heard calls from Honourable members on all

:02:15. > :02:17.sides of this house for an independent enquiry on the

:02:18. > :02:23.Hillsborough model into organised child sexual abuse in this country.

:02:24. > :02:26.Can he be satisfied that current police investigations are sufficient

:02:27. > :02:33.for the public to have confidence that we are both willing and able to

:02:34. > :02:35.get to the truth? He makes a very important point, I have looked at

:02:36. > :02:42.this carefully with ministerial colleagues. We have a series of

:02:43. > :02:44.enquiries taking place into what happened in various hospitals and

:02:45. > :02:50.care homes and indeed media organisations. It is important the

:02:51. > :02:57.government keeps a clear view about how these are being co-ordinated and

:02:58. > :03:02.how the lessons are being learned. At the moment, led by the Home

:03:03. > :03:09.Secretary and her colleagues, we do have a proper view of what is

:03:10. > :03:16.happening at these organisations. The Labour Party's policy to

:03:17. > :03:21.allocate NHS funding based on health needs actually reduced health

:03:22. > :03:26.inequality by 85%. White of the government to scrap its?

:03:27. > :03:35.Why did the government scrap it? The government has made sure that health

:03:36. > :03:39.budget ring fenced and to deliver the money according to the need of

:03:40. > :03:43.the various areas. The only part of the country I'm aware where Labour

:03:44. > :03:50.policies are put in place is Wales, where they haven't hit a health

:03:51. > :03:54.target since about 1989. Experts are saying people are dying because the

:03:55. > :04:11.matter of time they spending on waiting lists. Youth unemployment in

:04:12. > :04:13.my area is down 83% since 2010. It reflects the 2 million new

:04:14. > :04:18.private-sector jobs created since then. Will he be building upon this

:04:19. > :04:23.success by providing more opportunities and skills for young

:04:24. > :04:31.people by expending traineeships and apprenticeships? Even though 50 is a

:04:32. > :04:35.small number of people to be young and unemployed in Harrogate, it is

:04:36. > :04:41.still 52 many. Our ambition in the next Parliament should be to make

:04:42. > :04:44.sure everyone has the chance of going to university or taking an

:04:45. > :05:03.apprenticeship and relieve no one behind.

:05:04. > :05:08.recruit reserves. What has happened is the number has actually declined

:05:09. > :05:16.since 2012. If the content to continue to provide an update on

:05:17. > :05:23.this further example of the government incompetence? What we

:05:24. > :05:27.inherited in terms of defence was not only ?1 billion black hole but a

:05:28. > :05:34.situation with the military reserves where they had been under resourced

:05:35. > :05:40.and undervalued for years. We now have a programme for building them

:05:41. > :05:45.up. We're now going to see the strongest possible professional army

:05:46. > :05:49.with all the quit meant they have and a strong reserve force making

:05:50. > :06:05.sure we can meet all the obligations -- obligations we have. Now, that

:06:06. > :06:17.brings us to the end of our coverage of that. We are back to daily

:06:18. > :06:21.politics now. Mr Miliband talked about both the fallout from the

:06:22. > :06:29.Birmingham schools row and in particular was asking to whom should

:06:30. > :06:34.parents go if they are worried about something happening in the school?

:06:35. > :06:39.Not quite a clear and so mad. Then he moved on to this growing row over

:06:40. > :06:49.the passport office, people not getting their passports in time. Mrs

:06:50. > :06:58.May has been making statements that they are on top of it. Apparently,

:06:59. > :07:03.they are going to the extent of opening the passport office for

:07:04. > :07:06.seven days a week. The Minister of defence had to sit between the Home

:07:07. > :07:12.Secretary and the Education Secretary today to make sure there

:07:13. > :07:24.was no hostility! As far as we could see, nobody was hurt in the process.

:07:25. > :07:32.Let's hear what you thought. Philip Hammond working on behalf of the

:07:33. > :07:38.whole of the government there! Now, viewers and said both on schools and

:07:39. > :07:43.passports. This tweet from Tom Jones said, despite Labour's attack, they

:07:44. > :07:49.actually favour more freedom for schools as well. Another view said

:07:50. > :07:55.Ed Miliband's responds shows his fear of basic local accountability.

:07:56. > :08:02.And a final response: If is dead -- Ofsted cannot monitor all the

:08:03. > :08:12.schools, I am concerned. Another viewer said Ed Miliband went for the

:08:13. > :08:19.wrong topic. The cost of fuel is more relevant. On schools, it is

:08:20. > :08:23.interesting that Labour is not challenging there is a problem. If

:08:24. > :08:28.you read some of the press coverage over the weekend, reports suggested

:08:29. > :08:35.this is overblown. Labour has not gone down that route. It is saying,

:08:36. > :08:41.if the local authority does not run the school anymore, who do you go

:08:42. > :08:45.to? That's right, and they are in a difficult decision. They took

:08:46. > :08:51.forward the academy programme, they wanted schools to be independent. So

:08:52. > :08:55.now they are in a bind. Do they advocate greater local authority

:08:56. > :08:59.site again, which is what the Prime Minister was goading Mr Miliband to

:09:00. > :09:04.say, or do they go for some new way of holding schools to account? Free

:09:05. > :09:09.schools and academies are all overseen by the Department for

:09:10. > :09:12.Education. Ed Miliband was calling for a unified structure of

:09:13. > :09:17.accountability at a local level. I'm not quite clear what he's got in

:09:18. > :09:21.mind. The Prime Minister was vague about what he thought about the

:09:22. > :09:38.idea, but that is the issue they are grappling with. A fragmented

:09:39. > :09:44.situation. Today I asked the Ghostbusters question, who are you

:09:45. > :09:50.going to call? Who do you call if there is a problem? As a

:09:51. > :09:54.constituency MP of a parent came and said there was a problem in the

:09:55. > :09:59.school, first you would go to the local teacher and governors. If you

:10:00. > :10:03.didn't get satisfaction, you would go to the local education authority,

:10:04. > :10:09.and after that the MP would write to the secretary of state. What do we

:10:10. > :10:16.do if it is an Academy or free school? Well, you still have the

:10:17. > :10:19.governors and the headteacher. If you're not happy with that, it is

:10:20. > :10:27.perfectly reasonable for the parent to talk to the MP who would then do

:10:28. > :10:31.the same thing. So why we would need a whole new level across the whole

:10:32. > :10:37.country, I wasn't clear about the proposal. In Birmingham, part of the

:10:38. > :10:45.problem would seem to be the governors. Absolutely, and I think

:10:46. > :10:50.this issue has shown it the Achilles heel of the government's education

:10:51. > :10:59.policy is this issue of what happens when it goes wrong. Where does the

:11:00. > :11:02.buck stop? Where do you go? Our proposal is very simple, you should

:11:03. > :11:08.have a local director of standards whose job it is to make sure there

:11:09. > :11:15.is a port of call. Would that be more bureaucracy? Well, you can call

:11:16. > :11:22.it a bureaucrat. I'm wondering what it would consist of. It would be

:11:23. > :11:25.more than one person, I'm assuming. You would need resources to

:11:26. > :11:29.investigate and you would have to legislate in order for that to

:11:30. > :11:35.happen. And whom would they be accountable to? Well, at the

:11:36. > :11:37.moment, they are accountable to nobody other than the secretary of

:11:38. > :11:42.state and education. On the whole, I don't like Westminster deciding one

:11:43. > :11:54.system to be the same everywhere in the country. There are no free

:11:55. > :12:00.schools or academies in Scotland. I take it it is the same in Wales.

:12:01. > :12:04.What I'm saying is you cannot have the secretary of state as the sole

:12:05. > :12:11.person responsible for 21,000 schools. Now, the second issue Mr

:12:12. > :12:21.Miliband spoke of was this growing row dominating the papers and online

:12:22. > :12:38.about passports. It's unclear if the government actually accept there is

:12:39. > :12:52.a crisis. To reason may was said to have taken her eye of what's going

:12:53. > :12:58.on. The Prime Minister said there had been a spike in applications, I

:12:59. > :13:03.think he said 300,000 more than this time last year. But the

:13:04. > :13:08.government's response is to keep passport offices open longer, open

:13:09. > :13:12.an office in Liverpool and employ more staff. The danger for the

:13:13. > :13:15.government is, if people come forward with their stories about

:13:16. > :13:26.horrendous delays and a backlog does emerge, David Cameron, he did not

:13:27. > :13:32.give a sense of real urgency. In your view, is there a crisis in the

:13:33. > :13:37.passport office? I've not had a huge number of complaints as a

:13:38. > :13:43.constituent MP. But you can't tell from that. From what I understand,

:13:44. > :13:46.for one reason or another, there is a much bigger of applications than

:13:47. > :13:54.you would normally get at this time of year. It would be interesting to

:13:55. > :13:59.find out why. Just working out the figures, 30,000 across the country,

:14:00. > :14:04.that sounds like a bit of a crisis to me. It is 45 in every

:14:05. > :14:11.constituency. And normally it is not one person affected, it is a family.

:14:12. > :14:15.Certainly that is the case in the first instance I had. That was 2.5

:14:16. > :14:21.months ago, it was my next-door neighbour. Were unable to go on

:14:22. > :14:22.holiday when their child who had applied for their first passport was

:14:23. > :14:27.not allowed to go. All the talk in Parliament

:14:28. > :14:30.at the moment is about whether Jean Claude-Juncker should get the top

:14:31. > :14:32.job of European Commisson President. Mr Juncker him

:14:33. > :14:34.self has said he's found the scrutiny, particularly from the

:14:35. > :14:59.British press, difficult to deal I use it in you will be president of

:15:00. > :15:05.the commission? -- are you certain. I do not give interviews. What do

:15:06. > :15:16.you think of the British Prime Minister? Do you have any message

:15:17. > :15:20.for the people of Britain interested in your candidacy? A year a lot

:15:21. > :15:31.about you but they don't hear from you. We are not doing an interview.

:15:32. > :15:37.Well, he didn't look very happy there. How could you harass that

:15:38. > :15:48.gentle man? If looks could kill, I don't think I would be here. I've

:15:49. > :15:53.been talking to people around him. I think in Britain we write about

:15:54. > :15:56.Europe, we write about Jean-Claude Juncker. There was a piece a week

:15:57. > :16:13.ago calling him the most dangerous man in Europe. This stuff does get

:16:14. > :16:18.read. It gets through to Berlin. They read it. I think he is angry

:16:19. > :16:21.with the press, you know is how he is being talked about. It is one

:16:22. > :16:26.reason he does not want to do interviews with the British media.

:16:27. > :16:30.His team say they are not doing anything until it is clear who the

:16:31. > :16:34.council is going to appoint as their nomination. But I've seen him do

:16:35. > :16:40.interviews with German TV. He does not want to talk to the British

:16:41. > :16:43.press. I said to them after that, that looks ridiculous, why does he

:16:44. > :16:55.not sit down and talk about why he once the job? But they do not want

:16:56. > :16:59.to engage. Well, Mr Juncker, if you are watching, and I know you are, we

:17:00. > :17:06.will give you an interview and we will be very polite. All the

:17:07. > :17:13.candidates presented themselves to the European Parliament, whiting you

:17:14. > :17:19.give them that? Aymac why did you not broadcast that? Well, thank you

:17:20. > :17:24.for your advice! Talking of Mr Juncker

:17:25. > :17:27.and his plans for Europe, we thought we would see what the good people in

:17:28. > :17:30.and around the European Parliament thought about the competing visions

:17:31. > :17:32.of Mr Cameron and Mr Juncker. Adam's popped over on the Eurostar

:17:33. > :17:47.with his balls to find out We've got a good spot here at the

:17:48. > :17:51.European Parliament, we've got some Euro coloured balls, and we are

:17:52. > :18:00.going to have people who has the best vision for Europe, David

:18:01. > :18:12.Cameron, or Mr Juncker? None of those. Do we have to choose between

:18:13. > :18:18.those two? Mr Juncker has more experience in European politics. I

:18:19. > :18:26.will go for Mr Juncker. I live in Luxembourg. Have you heard of

:18:27. > :18:37.someone called Mr Juncker? Of course. Who do you prefer? Juncker,

:18:38. > :18:47.Mr Juncker. What does Austria think of David Cameron? I like this boy,

:18:48. > :18:48.but I don't understand him. I think I heard thunder so it might be time

:18:49. > :19:11.to go inside. evening with? With both! Can I? I

:19:12. > :19:17.don't see Jean-Claude Juncker as how he's been characterised. What is he

:19:18. > :19:26.actually like as a person? He is very funny. I would say Mr Cameron.

:19:27. > :19:39.Because he brings in something new. Reluctantly, almost... No question!

:19:40. > :19:44.Mr Cameron. There aren't many of you around here, is it lonely? Not at

:19:45. > :19:55.all. Europe has spoken clearly, reform is needed. I don't vote. No,

:19:56. > :20:04.no. Who has got more balls, David Cameron Jean-Claude Juncker. That is

:20:05. > :20:08.not a question! It is a question! The bad news is, we have been thrown

:20:09. > :20:10.out of the European Parliament, you are only allowed to interview MEPs

:20:11. > :20:29.here, not do things like this. What is so bad about Mr Cameron?

:20:30. > :20:32.Since the British became a member, they have created the impression

:20:33. > :20:39.that they must have a special exception for everything. You look a

:20:40. > :20:42.bit like Jean-Claude Juncker! I think I will go with Cameron because

:20:43. > :20:59.Jean-Claude Juncker is not the right man. Is he like Margaret Thatcher?

:21:00. > :21:01.We have been rained on, thrown out of the European Parliament, rained

:21:02. > :21:03.on again and look, David Cameron, I'm afraid, you don't have that many

:21:04. > :21:09.friends here. With me now is the

:21:10. > :21:11.Jacek Saryusz-Wolski, who's vice chair of the European People's Party

:21:12. > :21:30.and Jean Lambert, who's an MEP What is the case of Mr Juncker? I

:21:31. > :21:34.guess it is democracy, because the European parties are in the running

:21:35. > :21:38.of those elections, so with those lead candidate, one of them was

:21:39. > :21:46.Juncker. 40 formerly in people voted for him. But they didn't vote for

:21:47. > :21:52.him. They voted for the party to selected him to be the candidate.

:21:53. > :21:58.More people voted for him than in Britain for Mr Cameron. It is

:21:59. > :22:02.inconsistent on the British side, David Cameron's side, to criticise

:22:03. > :22:06.that the commission is overrated bureaucrats and then, when we want

:22:07. > :22:13.to make it elected, to contest that. We are ready to talk about the

:22:14. > :22:16.substance of the programme but not the verdicts of democracy and we

:22:17. > :22:23.don't think it should come from the oldest democracy in Europe, which is

:22:24. > :22:27.Britain. But the Lisbon Treaty only says that the Council of ministers

:22:28. > :22:31.has to take into account how people vote is, how the parties stacked

:22:32. > :22:35.up, not how it has to follow the results.

:22:36. > :22:36.vote is, how the parties stacked up, not how it has to follow the He

:22:37. > :22:40.or she should be elected by a qualified majority is in the

:22:41. > :22:48.Council, and there is a qualified majority already in the council. So

:22:49. > :22:53.he has to have two qualified majority is Andy has both. It is

:22:54. > :23:00.only Mr Cameron who is questioning that. Across Europe, there were

:23:01. > :23:04.millions of people, who in the way they voted, showing this

:23:05. > :23:09.satisfaction with the European establishment at the moment. --

:23:10. > :23:14.dissatisfaction. Would it not be a slap in the face to appoint somebody

:23:15. > :23:19.who is synonymous with the ways of the European establishment? Just the

:23:20. > :23:24.opposite, it would be strange to elect somebody who was not a winner,

:23:25. > :23:28.who did not get the majority. The fundamental principle of

:23:29. > :23:36.democracy... His name wasn't on the ballot paper. He was on our

:23:37. > :23:42.programmes, yes, yes. His name wasn't on the ballot paper.

:23:43. > :23:48.Everybody knows who the leader of the server tips labour. Now,

:23:49. > :23:55.everybody knows who he is! Thanks to David Cameron! Only 7% of Germans

:23:56. > :24:00.had ever heard of him. But who else is not the winner should be elected?

:24:01. > :24:05.The idea that people who voted for any party that was part of it was

:24:06. > :24:10.voting directly for Juncker 's and the key thing is whether those who

:24:11. > :24:13.have been running the European project understand what happened at

:24:14. > :24:24.the European elections. There was a seismic shift. The idea they should

:24:25. > :24:30.carry on saying nothing is happened will only increase the void. They

:24:31. > :24:35.are not directly elected to say everybody knew who he is utterly

:24:36. > :24:43.untrue. I doubt anyone in Britain knew who he was. Would you like to

:24:44. > :24:49.see as the President? I don't have a candidate or an agenda. What we

:24:50. > :24:52.should be looking for is a candidate who doesn't simply want to continue

:24:53. > :24:57.in the same direction and at the same speed as before, there needs to

:24:58. > :25:01.be some account taken of the fact that almost 30% of the seats in the

:25:02. > :25:05.European Parliament now belong to parties who have a different

:25:06. > :25:12.direction or who want to leave altogether. If not, the voice will

:25:13. > :25:16.be louder next time. Did you support Juncker? You have your candidate for

:25:17. > :25:20.the presidency but that isn't going to happen, do you think Jean-Claude

:25:21. > :25:23.Juncker should be President? For us, should be the first one to put

:25:24. > :25:30.forward a programme and every vote on the programme. I want to see what

:25:31. > :25:33.is on the programme. There is an assumption that because of what he

:25:34. > :25:37.has been, therefore that is what he will present. If he is the astute

:25:38. > :25:45.politician people think he is, he will be looking at what has come out

:25:46. > :25:48.of the European election, looking at areas of disaffection, also looking

:25:49. > :25:52.at the challenges the European Union now faces, which are not about going

:25:53. > :25:59.back to a simple free-trade agreement with deregulation, whether

:26:00. > :26:02.it is environment, workers rights, whatever, he will have to look at

:26:03. > :26:09.some of the challenges the EU faces, they are financial, social,

:26:10. > :26:14.democratic, environmental. If he does that Will you and your fellow

:26:15. > :26:22.Greens back in? If he manages to do that, we will be amazed, but we will

:26:23. > :26:27.have it. Will you be convinced he is a changed man and will take into

:26:28. > :26:32.account what happened in the elections in terms of the showing

:26:33. > :26:38.from some on the left, anti-austerity parties, to get

:26:39. > :26:40.support from the Greens? The basic rule of Westminster is the winning

:26:41. > :26:47.party gets the Prime Minister ship. It is the same. Faction of the

:26:48. > :26:53.Greens and the Christian Democrats and Socialists, all of them are in

:26:54. > :26:58.favour so we have a majority in the parliament in favour of the

:26:59. > :27:05.designated winner. So David Cameron can stuff it. He has no majority in

:27:06. > :27:08.the parliament either. He is try to solve the eternal British problem

:27:09. > :27:14.with European instrument and blackmailing the majority of

:27:15. > :27:22.European voters. Does labour ward? , correct something, Iceland is the

:27:23. > :27:32.oldest democracy in Europe. Unlike Croatia. I wouldn't vote for Juncker

:27:33. > :27:40.myself but I do accept some of the argument, I think it is overplayed,

:27:41. > :27:43.this argument about democracy. This is not a full democratic campaign

:27:44. > :27:48.that was late, I think it's a sign of weakness Britain now has that the

:27:49. > :27:55.Conservative Party cannot have a candidate because it is not in the

:27:56. > :28:05.EP BP. We are bit lukewarm about Martin Shaw... He is a federalist

:28:06. > :28:08.like Tim Moore. I am being told we have run out of time.

:28:09. > :28:11.Before we go and enjoy a plate of moules-frites washed down with

:28:12. > :28:14.a pint of Belgian beer, there's just time to give you the result

:28:15. > :28:18.Sadly BBC competiton guidelines being what they are we couldn't

:28:19. > :28:20.bring the infamous red button with us, but

:28:21. > :28:38.The red button, I have got it, I am pressing it. There you are! The mud

:28:39. > :28:45.is yours, Julia. That is about the hardest thing he

:28:46. > :28:54.has had to do all week! The One O'clock News is

:28:55. > :29:15.starting over on BBC One now. What's the hardest thing

:29:16. > :29:17.about being a foster parent? You're constantly trying

:29:18. > :29:20.to build the elusive trust. It's like a big old question mark

:29:21. > :29:24.in your heart.