23/09/2014

:00:10. > :00:13.Welcome to Manchester, where Ed Miliband it about to make his last

:00:14. > :00:20.big conference speech his last before next year's General Election.

:00:21. > :00:23.The Labour Leader will get to his feet in about 20 minutes -

:00:24. > :00:56.we'll bring it to you live and uninterrupted.

:00:57. > :01:04.Afternoon folks, and welcome to this Daily Politics.

:01:05. > :01:07.It's only a short walk for Ed Miliband and his wife, Justine, from

:01:08. > :01:16.the Midland Hotel to the Conference Centre here in Manchester which we

:01:17. > :01:21.are waiting for in the next few minutes. We're told the NHS will

:01:22. > :01:30.figure strongly in his speech and that taxes on houses worth over ?2

:01:31. > :01:39.million, on hedge funds and tobacco companies, will be used to bolster

:01:40. > :01:41.NHS finances. That suggests a core vote strategy rather than anything

:01:42. > :01:59.too radical. We'll have the speech, interviews and analysis here and Jo

:02:00. > :02:12.Coburn, who's out and about in the Conference centre. So we're on air

:02:13. > :02:23.Until 3:45pm this afternoon, and maybe later. With me is the former

:02:24. > :02:26.Minister Charlie Falconer and the BBC's political Editor Nick

:02:27. > :02:34.Robinson. Labour Cabinet his speech will be 80

:02:35. > :02:40.minutes, is that wise? I think people are willing to hear it,

:02:41. > :02:45.particularly at a party conference. Taxing things that Labour may regard

:02:46. > :02:50.as bad, like big houses over ?2 million, hedge funds, tobacco

:02:51. > :02:57.companies to pay for the NHS, that is pretty much the core strategy,

:02:58. > :03:02.isn't it? Remember in 1997 Tony Blair introduced attacks on the

:03:03. > :03:06.banks to introduce a variety of employment programmes... He had a

:03:07. > :03:13.windfall tax on utilities. That's right, but it was not regarded as

:03:14. > :03:21.being a core strategy. He didn't campaign on that. Economic

:03:22. > :03:36.responsibility was a vital part of the package. I think what Ed is

:03:37. > :03:43.doing is saying that he can properly fund it. I think the wider public

:03:44. > :03:48.would regard these as reasonable choices to make. The problem is that

:03:49. > :03:51.none of these things may bring in very much money. The Office for

:03:52. > :03:57.Budget Responsibility will look at these proposals and it will be

:03:58. > :04:03.possible for the public to have an independent verification or not is

:04:04. > :04:08.the case may be if the sums add up. At the moment we don't really know

:04:09. > :04:12.how much a mansion tax would bring in, and would it just be the hedge

:04:13. > :04:18.funds or all asset management? We don't what they mean by attacks on

:04:19. > :04:33.the tobacco companies. And nobody can properly say what the details

:04:34. > :04:39.are. I'm sure if you know the broad and bit you can work out whether it

:04:40. > :04:44.will work or not. Why does this not feel like a conference that is on

:04:45. > :04:48.the brink of power? I think it does feel like a conference on the brink

:04:49. > :04:54.of power. I think there is a real sense we must be disciplined and

:04:55. > :05:01.determined. It is also a conference sandwiched between two other great

:05:02. > :05:04.events, the referendum, which is an event of such great electricity that

:05:05. > :05:06.it is difficult to compete with that, and the issues in relation to

:05:07. > :05:12.the Middle East and in particular the use of force, the prospective

:05:13. > :05:17.use of force by the UK Government, they are making people see things in

:05:18. > :05:22.a different way than normal. It is a problem when you are a politician,

:05:23. > :05:26.you can get overshadowed by events, whether it is the Scottish

:05:27. > :05:30.referendum or now the bombing is not just of Iraq but also Syria, and we

:05:31. > :05:37.understand that at three o'clock this afternoon the president will

:05:38. > :05:40.make a speech, British time. Obviously the Labour Party

:05:41. > :05:45.conference is one thing going on in the world but I don't think that in

:05:46. > :05:56.any way detracts from the mood here. It does make it less... It makes it

:05:57. > :06:09.less excited because there is more focus going on in Scotland. You are

:06:10. > :06:16.ahead in the polls at the moment. For a while. Three years. But Ed

:06:17. > :06:22.Miliband himself has not been ahead in the polls. He is yet to convince

:06:23. > :06:26.the British voter that he is prime ministerial. And that in some

:06:27. > :06:31.respects will be determined by the prospectus he makes to the British

:06:32. > :06:35.people, and today is plainly about what the prospectus is. I think it

:06:36. > :06:39.is interesting that one of the things that came out of the Scottish

:06:40. > :06:44.referendum was that the public do want change. A prospectus for change

:06:45. > :06:49.has got to be laid out by the opposition leader. What also came

:06:50. > :06:54.out of the Scottish referendum was that Ed Miliband was almost of no

:06:55. > :06:58.importance whatsoever. I think the choice being given to the Scottish

:06:59. > :07:04.people was in a sense either stick with politics as it is, or abandon

:07:05. > :07:10.politics as it is, and I think Alex Salmond tucked into the sort of

:07:11. > :07:14.insurgency that UKIP has done here. Can you remember Labour leader who

:07:15. > :07:23.has had less cut through in Scotland than Ed Miliband? Labour leaders

:07:24. > :07:27.have obtained the loyalty of Scottish voters. For a period of

:07:28. > :07:34.time Tony Blair was not popular in Scotland. No, but he won landslides

:07:35. > :07:39.in Scotland. Because people were voting Labour. I think the issues in

:07:40. > :07:45.the Scottish rent -- referendum were not about Labour. But you could be

:07:46. > :07:49.pretty sure Tony Blair would have played a major role in the

:07:50. > :07:55.referendum campaign. I think he would have done, yes. Whereas Ed

:07:56. > :08:08.Miliband didn't. He played more of a role than David Cameron. Partly

:08:09. > :08:14.because Gordon Brown at the end... He was called in desperation! He had

:08:15. > :08:20.a particular authority, and also Gordon represented the voice of

:08:21. > :08:25.Scotland... He obviously is Labour but it was very much a Scottish

:08:26. > :08:31.voice he was talking with. It is unavoidable that what was happening

:08:32. > :08:37.in Scotland was a rejection of British politicians, including

:08:38. > :08:42.Labour. Let's just go back and have a look at the pictures outside the

:08:43. > :08:48.conference hall. They are still waiting for Ed Miliband to appear.

:08:49. > :08:54.If he is running late and planning an 80 minute speech, we could be on

:08:55. > :08:58.for a long while today. Apparently they were rewriting parts of the

:08:59. > :09:05.speech up until the last minute, but I think that was probably to take

:09:06. > :09:10.account of the moving events in the Middle East. Because he has to say

:09:11. > :09:14.something with authority on what is happening in the Middle East at the

:09:15. > :09:20.moment. I agree, and I think the role of the opposition in relation

:09:21. > :09:24.to whether force is used is extremely important. What is the

:09:25. > :09:31.mood of the party? Is it ready for... I put this in quotes...

:09:32. > :09:36.Another war in the Middle East? Hold that thought. Here we have the

:09:37. > :09:40.Labour leader getting a hearty welcome from his own supporters,

:09:41. > :09:53.along with Justine Greening his wife, who is a lawyer. -- Justine,

:09:54. > :09:58.his wife. This is always a big occasion in the calendar of any

:09:59. > :10:03.leader of any of the major parties, the conference speech. You are

:10:04. > :10:07.speaking to the converted, to the party faithful, you know you will

:10:08. > :10:11.always get a great welcome. On the other hand expectations are high,

:10:12. > :10:15.you have got to perform well, not just to reach out to the wider

:10:16. > :10:22.public but also to send the party faithful away with a spring in their

:10:23. > :10:26.step as they go knocking on the doors and doing the rounds. He has

:10:27. > :10:33.disappeared into the conference hall. But not just for the faithful,

:10:34. > :10:37.because you get huge media coverage. No speech is more

:10:38. > :10:45.important than the one just before the general election. This is the

:10:46. > :10:49.trampoline, the jumping off point for the campaign for the general

:10:50. > :10:53.election, which we know will take place in 2015. It is a very

:10:54. > :10:58.important speech anyway but particularly important. He has a

:10:59. > :11:03.reputation for giving strong speeches at these conferences. Last

:11:04. > :11:13.year he set the weather for a long time with his talk of price freezes

:11:14. > :11:18.on electric companies. Whether the impact is lasting is another matter.

:11:19. > :11:22.In a sense, because this is the one before the election, the pressure to

:11:23. > :11:27.do something important is even bigger. One of the things about Ed

:11:28. > :11:31.Miliband is that he is a very thoughtful politician. He puts huge

:11:32. > :11:36.amounts of thought into the conference speech. A lot of time

:11:37. > :11:40.goes into it so I think he will deliver on the expectations because

:11:41. > :11:45.the problems facing the leader of the opposition or indeed any leader

:11:46. > :11:51.at the moment are difficult and complex. Expect something good and

:11:52. > :12:01.well thought out because that is what Ed is very good at. Let's go to

:12:02. > :12:03.Jo, because she has been talking to delegates outside the conference

:12:04. > :12:10.hall. Just about an hour to go until Ed

:12:11. > :12:15.Miliband delivers his speech. Let's find out what delegates are

:12:16. > :12:19.expecting. They are queueing up diligently and patiently waiting.

:12:20. > :12:23.The queue goes almost out of the exhibition hall. Let's ask people

:12:24. > :12:28.what they are expecting. Are you excited about the speech? Yes, it is

:12:29. > :12:35.a great occasion and we are waiting to hear what the leader has to say.

:12:36. > :12:52.Are you excited? Yes, I want to see a firm commitment to what the

:12:53. > :12:54.changes will be when we come into power in 2015 so I am looking

:12:55. > :12:57.forward to an inspirational speech. What about you? What do we want to

:12:58. > :13:00.hear from Ed Miliband? I am excited to hear from Ed Miliband, what he

:13:01. > :13:03.will do for us when he comes back into power. What do you want him to

:13:04. > :13:08.do? Freezing the electricity bills and making school dinners free for

:13:09. > :13:15.children from four years old until 11 years old. Let's move slightly

:13:16. > :13:20.further up the line and ask these people here. Do you like Ed

:13:21. > :13:26.Miliband? Yes, I think he is absolutely superb. He stands for the

:13:27. > :13:31.values of grass roots Labour Party, and he is a strong leader without

:13:32. > :13:38.falling for the slickness and nonsense that we see from the

:13:39. > :13:45.Tories. Why is everyone round here saying the conference has been flat?

:13:46. > :13:51.No, not at all! I think it was him! It was Stephen Pound! It has been

:13:52. > :13:59.fizzing, this is the champagne conference. Let's come back, so you

:14:00. > :14:04.don't think it has been flat? No, it has been exciting. I like the fact

:14:05. > :14:10.they are getting rid of the bedroom tax and also getting rid of zero

:14:11. > :14:14.contracts. What about if you are looking to the future, can you see

:14:15. > :14:19.Ed Miliband as a future prime minister? Of course, he is an

:14:20. > :14:24.intellectual, he is serious and brilliant, I love him. Will that

:14:25. > :14:29.appealed to blue-collar workers, people with UKIP chomping at the

:14:30. > :14:35.bit? If they listen to the policies, yes. We have got the policies. We

:14:36. > :14:40.will stop the privatisation of the NHS, repeal the social care act, get

:14:41. > :14:51.rid of bedroom tax, all of these policies which will appeal to people

:14:52. > :14:57.throughout the land. Let's move along here. What about you, madam,

:14:58. > :15:04.why is it that Ed Miliband's poll ratings are so low? I am a member of

:15:05. > :15:07.Parliament in north Wales and people in my constituency want to see the

:15:08. > :15:14.introduction of a higher minimum wage, they want to get rid of the

:15:15. > :15:18.bedroom tax. With no disrespect to yourselves all the Westminster

:15:19. > :15:23.bubble. So that is a snapshot of the delegates' views.

:15:24. > :15:30.We welcome viewers from the BBC News Channel to this special on the

:15:31. > :15:35.Labour Party conference live from Manchester where Ed Miliband is

:15:36. > :15:39.about to make the leaders address. We're now going to be on air until

:15:40. > :15:46.4pm this afternoon to accommodate our briefing that Ed Miliband plans

:15:47. > :15:51.to speak for 80 minutes for the long, even by modern standards, but

:15:52. > :15:56.there we go. You will get it all here on the BBC News Channel. Maybe

:15:57. > :16:00.we can go back to the hall. People have been queueing up for ages to

:16:01. > :16:04.get in there. You can see it's now filled up. It is an enormous

:16:05. > :16:08.conference Hall in Manchester. We are sitting in the middle of what

:16:09. > :16:13.used to be a railway station, the central Manchester railway station,

:16:14. > :16:18.the huge railway hotel known as the Midland, just across from here, I

:16:19. > :16:25.can see it through the window. A beautiful big red brick building.

:16:26. > :16:27.Right in the heart of Manchester. This new world-class conference

:16:28. > :16:33.facility in the centre of the city. A big crowd for Mr Miliband today.

:16:34. > :16:35.Of course, that will help the atmosphere because the reason the

:16:36. > :16:39.conferences have been queueing people, they have been building the

:16:40. > :16:48.stages, adding to the middle of the hall, to take away people. This is

:16:49. > :16:51.more like an old-time conference call. And it feels very full. The

:16:52. > :16:57.conference looks like it's been very, very busy. It's looking great.

:16:58. > :17:03.An issue which will determine the election, I would suggest, will be

:17:04. > :17:06.the economy. It usually does. This is another problem for Mr Miliband

:17:07. > :17:10.because labours economic credibility, even if they are ahead

:17:11. > :17:17.in the polls, is 25% behind the Conservatives. That polls show but

:17:18. > :17:21.you can see very significant efforts have been made to make it clear we

:17:22. > :17:29.are fiscally responsible. The speech by Ed Balls was not going to delight

:17:30. > :17:33.many Labour activists, and some paper suggested there was some

:17:34. > :17:44.boring. Bash one of the things we have been

:17:45. > :17:49.discussing is how you cost out proposals you're going to make in

:17:50. > :17:52.preserving the National Health Service, you have got to be able to

:17:53. > :17:56.fund that, so it's going to be careful series speeches. Which

:17:57. > :18:04.indicate economic responsibility. There seems to be a problem, not

:18:05. > :18:08.just an economic message but who is delivering it, Ed Balls, and lots of

:18:09. > :18:12.people see him as part of the regime which reminds them of days where

:18:13. > :18:17.things went wrong and Labour would rather forget. The Conservative

:18:18. > :18:22.Party very effectively spent a lot of time in the aftermath of the last

:18:23. > :18:24.election saying Labour were responsible for the economic crash.

:18:25. > :18:29.Of course they went, it was a worldwide rush brought about by

:18:30. > :18:36.banking, which affected the whole world, but I think many people

:18:37. > :18:39.associate Labour because of that effective campaign by the Tories

:18:40. > :18:46.with the crash full speed was not our responsibility for them are the

:18:47. > :18:49.days when Labour could win,... I'm sure you're going to admit it's not

:18:50. > :18:57.going to be a landslide for all parties. I do think Labour will

:18:58. > :19:00.win. I don't think landslides are necessarily a thing of the past. I

:19:01. > :19:06.think establishing a convincing economic narrative and delivering it

:19:07. > :19:10.to people will deliver for one party or another possibility of some

:19:11. > :19:15.substantial majorities that, at the moment, the public have yet to up

:19:16. > :19:22.their mind. We are a four party system in the UK now. UKIP is turned

:19:23. > :19:26.England into a four party system, like Northern Ireland, Scotland and

:19:27. > :19:35.Wales. It remains to be seen whether you click on translate their

:19:36. > :19:41.successes into the general election success. I'm not sure the public

:19:42. > :19:47.think you are serious as an alternative. We don't know whether

:19:48. > :19:51.their share of the vote will find their way. Ed Miliband will take to

:19:52. > :19:55.the stage in just a few minutes. We came into the hall to show you that

:19:56. > :19:59.and as we wait for him to speak, let's remind ourselves of the events

:20:00. > :20:06.of the last 12 months in Labour politics. If we win that election in

:20:07. > :20:09.2015, the next Labour Government will freeze gas and delicacy prices

:20:10. > :20:27.until the start of 2017. At the next election we will present

:20:28. > :20:28.a manifesto that explains how we can make the living wage a central part

:20:29. > :20:37.of our strategy. We need a reckoning with our banks,

:20:38. > :20:49.not for retribution but for reform. Today I asked to agree the biggest

:20:50. > :21:37.changes to our party since 1918. Selfie. Would you like a chip? Can I

:21:38. > :21:39.say to her, she's looking for new challenge, she should try wrestling

:21:40. > :21:56.a bacon sandwich. This is everyone's flag, everyone's

:21:57. > :22:19.country, and everyone. Full. A reminder of some of the highlights

:22:20. > :22:24.of labour's year. A few minutes until Ed Miliband gets to his feet.

:22:25. > :22:29.There you can see inside the hall, it looks like there's barely a spare

:22:30. > :22:33.seat. Everybody has grabbed them. You can see behind, Labour's plan

:22:34. > :22:36.for Britain's future. We're going to hear a lot about plans and we're

:22:37. > :22:42.told Mr Miliband has a ten year plan in mind and six major parts to this

:22:43. > :22:47.ten year plan he's going to spell out though I'm sure he's also kept

:22:48. > :22:55.something up his sleeve. Just to keep us in suspense and to add an

:22:56. > :22:59.element of novelty to these things. Stalin had a five-year plan so why

:23:00. > :23:10.does he need a 10-year one? 80 minute speech, 10-year plan, it took

:23:11. > :23:12.the eight hours. -- Castro. A 10-year plan because there's no

:23:13. > :23:19.quick fix in relation to the economic issues and maybe with the

:23:20. > :23:24.alienation issues as well. We have to move fast in Government but the

:23:25. > :23:27.idea that these things can be fixed quickly is not right, like

:23:28. > :23:33.reskilling the workforce. It does not happen quickly. This is a

:23:34. > :23:37.crucial election for Labour to win because of the polls were to be

:23:38. > :23:40.wrong and against a lot of the wisdom, the Tories were to win an

:23:41. > :23:46.overall majority, not just coalition, would quickly put through

:23:47. > :23:51.the boundary changes, 30 or 40 seats to them, English votes for English

:23:52. > :23:59.laws, and they could be there for quite a while. So you need to win.

:24:00. > :24:04.If we don't win, they will be those points, but there will also be the

:24:05. > :24:07.point that we haven't won in the context of a recovery that wasn't

:24:08. > :24:12.affecting very many people. There has been a long flat-lining period.

:24:13. > :24:21.Also, we have been along time had in the period polls but not one. Joined

:24:22. > :24:24.by Nick Robinson, a little late but I may put you into detention later

:24:25. > :24:29.but not at the moment because we need you. What have we got in store?

:24:30. > :24:35.More of what we said yesterday, the promised to spend a lot more

:24:36. > :24:40.annually on the NHS, the talk is it might involve recruiting a lot of

:24:41. > :24:45.new staff, possibly 34,000 new staff. Not straight away, but by the

:24:46. > :24:52.end of the first Labour term, if the more one. The idea seems to be to

:24:53. > :24:58.deal with shortages that everyone has been reading it, in terms of

:24:59. > :25:05.nurses on wards, GPs, leading to people having to go to the A,

:25:06. > :25:09.midwives and home care. That seems to be the centrepiece. Partly paid

:25:10. > :25:13.for by the mansion tax, as I revealed yesterday, and partly by a

:25:14. > :25:19.new tax on tobacco firms. Attacks on their market share, as I understand

:25:20. > :25:24.it, and partly paid for by some tax avoidance measures but the detail,

:25:25. > :25:32.we will have to wait for it for the and hedge funds is? Maybe that's tax

:25:33. > :25:36.avoidance? There are a series of measures. If you are a Labour spin

:25:37. > :25:41.doctor, you say you're taxing the bad things, to raise money for the

:25:42. > :25:48.good things. The NHS. The message they want, tax the rich, tax the tax

:25:49. > :25:53.avoidance, the people who make us sick rather than make as well, to

:25:54. > :25:57.pay for the NHS. It may be a very good idea, it may help, but you have

:25:58. > :26:02.to remember when you hear politicians of any party present

:26:03. > :26:07.things in these ways, whatever they describe, whatever form of words

:26:08. > :26:14.they use, it's just public spending and taxes. If you spend ?2.5 billion

:26:15. > :26:24.extra, that is just a little bit over the NHS budget, 3% annually, on

:26:25. > :26:27.that budget. What really matters is the baseline. The baseline depends

:26:28. > :26:32.on the growth of the economy, the size of the deficit, and so on and

:26:33. > :26:35.so forth, and you also have to remember, which is least been

:26:36. > :26:40.discussed at this conference, the thing which allows Labour to promise

:26:41. > :26:44.more spending is not simply new tax measures, though they are important,

:26:45. > :26:47.but that they have looser borrowing rules for the next parliament than

:26:48. > :26:50.George Osborne would have and according to the Institute for

:26:51. > :26:56.Fiscal Studies, it allows them to raise many billions of pounds a year

:26:57. > :26:59.extra compared with a Tory Government. They would say because

:27:00. > :27:03.they are behaving more sensibly in the way they manage the public

:27:04. > :27:08.finances. People will wonder how Labour can have looser borrowing

:27:09. > :27:12.rules than the Government. It's a question of what you have is your

:27:13. > :27:17.objective. How worried about debt and the deficit are you? And Labour

:27:18. > :27:20.politicians I think would argue that yes, you should be worried, but

:27:21. > :27:25.there is a balance between that and what is necessary to pay for public

:27:26. > :27:29.services and ensuring you don't shrink the economy because you are

:27:30. > :27:36.taking so much demand out. These are raw judgements in the end. Not

:27:37. > :27:42.black-and-white decisions. George Osborne's policy is to try to end

:27:43. > :27:46.the deficit by 2018, and Labour politicians will be able to tell you

:27:47. > :27:50.again and again, he would've ended it by now so he is off target now,

:27:51. > :27:54.already borrowing billions of pounds more than he planned to but that it

:27:55. > :27:59.is objective to do it. They are taking a different objective. The

:28:00. > :28:05.politics of this, if the NHS are taking centre stage in this speech,

:28:06. > :28:09.and ways of raising money is for the NHS, does that suggest a

:28:10. > :28:16.reinforcement of what has been known as the core strategy? Get out the

:28:17. > :28:20.35% of the Labour vote, because of the electoral arithmetic, could give

:28:21. > :28:24.you an overall majority? It will motivate the call voters but hard to

:28:25. > :28:31.argue most voters don't care about the NHS. In that sense, I'm nervous

:28:32. > :28:33.of this description of things as call vote strategies. I challenge

:28:34. > :28:43.you to go into Manchester and find someone to say, who don't care about

:28:44. > :28:46.the NHS. Even people with private health-insurance find themselves

:28:47. > :28:52.dependent on the health service for the urgent treatment, long-term

:28:53. > :28:55.care, when they are close to death for example. There is not money

:28:56. > :29:01.people in this country don't care about the NHS. Also does not money

:29:02. > :29:10.people who know that for the NHS, that is part of the Labour Party's

:29:11. > :29:14.reason to exist. Why the need to make that a centrestage appeal?

:29:15. > :29:18.Labour is way ahead in the public opinion polls on the NHS also

:29:19. > :29:23.arguably, they have sorted that issue. Their problem is they are

:29:24. > :29:29.behind on economic credibility and immigration. Ed Miliband is looking

:29:30. > :29:34.for some weight to say to people Labour would make a difference to

:29:35. > :29:37.your lives. At the same time as Ed Balls is saying, don't promise to

:29:38. > :29:42.spend this and that. We haven't got the money. It's going to be

:29:43. > :29:46.difficult, we have to make cuts, and the NHS allows them to square that

:29:47. > :29:51.circle. If the money was being promised for other measures, albeit

:29:52. > :29:56.good schemes, potentially, I think they would be walking into a trap

:29:57. > :30:02.with the Tories could say, same old Labour, spend, tax and borrow. The

:30:03. > :30:06.Tories who have difficulty with this policy. It is neatly packaged, tax

:30:07. > :30:13.the wealthy to pay for the health service. Frankly, if the thought of

:30:14. > :30:17.political conjuring, if you like, that George Osborne likes for the

:30:18. > :30:21.remember when he said I'm going to cut inheritance tax that get the

:30:22. > :30:23.non-dons, the Melfi to paper that. This is what opposition does,

:30:24. > :30:35.symbolism. -- the wealthy. The problem is that oppositions

:30:36. > :30:40.don't make the weather, the Government is in charge, and I would

:30:41. > :30:49.not rule out that at some stage between now and the next Budget or

:30:50. > :30:55.-- in March next year, George Osborne might well find two or 3

:30:56. > :31:01.million that he will put into the NHS. I agree, but the announcement

:31:02. > :31:10.of the mansion tax that George Osborne made, what about the energy

:31:11. > :31:14.that made. And I suspect NHS announcements will make the weather

:31:15. > :31:18.coming out of this stage, there is a sense that delays are increasing in

:31:19. > :31:25.the NHS, there is an issue about whether there will be a winter

:31:26. > :31:29.crisis in 2016, and to be addressing that now and funding it in taxing

:31:30. > :31:34.things that most people would regard as being sensibly taxed like the

:31:35. > :31:38.tobacco companies, it is a good personification of the choices they

:31:39. > :31:57.will make. You can probably hear the noise coming from the hall. Mr

:31:58. > :32:02.Miller -- Miliband has appeared. You can almost hear them willing band

:32:03. > :32:07.leader to give a barnstorming speech to set them on the road to the next

:32:08. > :32:13.general election. The campaign will begin in the middle of October, it

:32:14. > :32:21.takes us through to May. It used to be only the Americans that have long

:32:22. > :32:30.campaigns, now the British do too. Let's hear from the Labour leader,

:32:31. > :32:36.Ed Miliband. I have just been speaking to Alan Henning, a British

:32:37. > :32:44.hostage taken by ISIS. His wife, Barbara, maiden -- made a moving

:32:45. > :32:49.appeal for his release over the weekend. Alan Henning is simply an

:32:50. > :32:53.aid worker trying to make life better for victims of conflict. I

:32:54. > :32:59.think it should tell us everything we need to know about ISIS and their

:33:00. > :33:04.murderous ways that they take a decent British man like Alan Henning

:33:05. > :33:09.hostage. It is not just British people that they are targeting. It

:33:10. > :33:15.is people of all nationalities and all religions. That is why we have

:33:16. > :33:20.supported the Coalition not simply based on military action but a

:33:21. > :33:28.coalition based on humanitarian, political, and diplomatic action to

:33:29. > :33:32.counter the threat of ISIS. This week the president of the United

:33:33. > :33:38.States and the British prime minister are both at the United

:33:39. > :33:44.Nations. We support the overnight action against ISIS. What needs to

:33:45. > :33:49.happen now is that the UN needs to play its part. A UN Security Council

:33:50. > :34:06.resolution to win the international support to counter that threat of

:34:07. > :34:13.ISIL. Friends, this country will never turn our back on the world and

:34:14. > :34:24.never turn our back on the principles of internationalism. And

:34:25. > :34:29.those values, they are reflected not just in our country but in this

:34:30. > :34:40.party, in this hall, and in this great city of Manchester. Friends,

:34:41. > :34:46.it is great to be with you in Manchester. A fantastic city, a city

:34:47. > :34:53.with a great Labour Council leading the way, and a city that after this

:34:54. > :34:59.year's local elections is not just a Tory free zone but Liberal Democrat

:35:00. > :35:14.free zone as well. APPLAUSE Manchester has special memories for

:35:15. > :35:20.me because four years ago I was elected your leader here in

:35:21. > :35:25.Manchester. For years on, I feel wiser, I feel older, I feel much

:35:26. > :35:32.older actually! But hang on a minute, some of you look quite a lot

:35:33. > :35:37.older as well. At least I've got an excuse! But I am prouder than ever

:35:38. > :35:51.to be the leader of your party and I thank you for your support.

:35:52. > :35:58.APPLAUSE We meet here in serious times. Not just for our world but

:35:59. > :36:03.for our country too. Our country nearly broke up. A country that

:36:04. > :36:10.nearly splits apart is not a country in good health. I want to start by

:36:11. > :36:25.thanking all of Labour's Team Scotland for the part they played in

:36:26. > :36:32.keeping our country together. Let us thank them all - Gordon Brown,

:36:33. > :36:42.Alistair Darling, Margaret Curran, Douglas Alexander, Jim Murphy, JoAnn

:36:43. > :36:43.Lamont. Let us thank them all because they helped save our

:36:44. > :37:00.country! And I want to say to the people of

:37:01. > :37:04.Scotland directly, this Labour Party will show you over the coming years

:37:05. > :37:20.you made the right choice because we are better together. Here is the

:37:21. > :37:25.thing. All of us, all political leaders, everyone in this hall has a

:37:26. > :37:32.responsibility to try to explain why 45% of people voted yes. 45% of

:37:33. > :37:36.people wanted to break up our country. We have got to explain why

:37:37. > :37:41.the feeling we saw in Scotland is not just in Scotland but it is

:37:42. > :37:46.reflected across the country. My story starts six days from the end

:37:47. > :37:51.of the referendum campaign. I was on my way to a public meeting, I was

:37:52. > :37:56.late, as politicians tend to be. Just outside the meeting I met a

:37:57. > :38:02.woman, and I was supposed to go into the meeting but I wanted to stop and

:38:03. > :38:09.ask her how she was voting. I did that to everyone on the street. One

:38:10. > :38:13.vote at a time. She said she hadn't decided how she was going to vote

:38:14. > :38:18.yet. Her name was Josephine and she worked as a cleaner in the building.

:38:19. > :38:23.She said the company she worked for was decent but the wages were

:38:24. > :38:27.rubbish. She hadn't decided because life was so incredibly tough for

:38:28. > :38:31.her. She didn't want to leave but she thought it might be the best

:38:32. > :38:36.thing to do. I don't know how Josephine voted in the referendum

:38:37. > :38:41.but I do know the question she was asking - is anyone going to make

:38:42. > :38:49.life better for me and my family? Here is the thing. It isn't just

:38:50. > :38:53.Josephine's question, it is the question people are asking right

:38:54. > :38:59.across Britain. Is anyone going to build a better life for the working

:39:00. > :39:02.people of our country? That wasn't just the referendum question, that

:39:03. > :39:19.is the general election question. I'm not talking about the powerful

:39:20. > :39:27.and the privileged, those who do well whatever the weather, I'm

:39:28. > :39:32.talking about families who work harder and harder just to stay

:39:33. > :39:39.afloat. This general election is about you. You have made sacrifices,

:39:40. > :39:45.taken home lower wages, you have seen your energy bills rise and your

:39:46. > :39:49.NHS decline. You know this country doesn't work. My answer is that we

:39:50. > :39:56.can build a better future for you and your family, and this speech is

:39:57. > :40:07.about Labour's plans to do it, Labour's plan for Britain's future.

:40:08. > :40:16.So, what do we need to have that planned for the future? We have got

:40:17. > :40:22.to understand what people are saying to us across the UK. I think there

:40:23. > :40:26.is a silent majority who wanted our country to endure but they are

:40:27. > :40:32.telling us that things must change. They come from every walk of life,

:40:33. > :40:37.like a young woman who works in a pub near where I live. She lives at

:40:38. > :40:41.the opposite end of the country from Josephine, separated by at least a

:40:42. > :40:53.generation, but they share a common experience. Because Ziamara has

:40:54. > :40:59.worked hard, she has worked her way up to become a chef, but like

:41:00. > :41:06.Josephine, life for her is incredibly tough. And by the way,

:41:07. > :41:12.she thinks politics is rubbish. And let's not pretend we don't hear that

:41:13. > :41:21.a lot on the doorsteps. What does she see in politics? She sees drift.

:41:22. > :41:27.She doesn't think we have a solution to her problem, we have got to prove

:41:28. > :41:32.her wrong. I think there is something almost even more important

:41:33. > :41:36.about our country. People have lost faith in the future. The other day I

:41:37. > :41:41.was in the park, I was trying to work on my speech and I wasn't

:41:42. > :41:45.getting anywhere so I went to the park and there were two young women

:41:46. > :41:58.in the park. They seemed excited to see me and they came over. It's not

:41:59. > :42:03.that funny! And one of them actually said, so it is true, you do meet

:42:04. > :42:10.famous people in this park. And the other one said, yes, it is. The

:42:11. > :42:13.other one said, no offence, we were hoping for Benedict Cumberbatch.

:42:14. > :42:19.Anyway one of them said something that really stuck with me. She

:42:20. > :42:25.said, my generation is falling into a black hole. She said about her

:42:26. > :42:31.parents' generation, they have had it so good and now there is nothing

:42:32. > :42:35.left for us. She was speaking from millions of people across our

:42:36. > :42:41.country who have lost faith in the future. Like Gareth, who is high up

:42:42. > :42:45.in a software company. He has a five-year-old daughter, he is

:42:46. > :42:50.earning a decent wage, he can't afford to buy a home. He is priced

:42:51. > :42:58.out by the richest. He thinks that unless you are one of the privileged

:42:59. > :43:01.few in Britain, the country is not going to work for you and your kids

:43:02. > :43:05.will have a worse life anew. So many people across our country feel this

:43:06. > :43:11.way. They feel the country doesn't work for them and they have lost

:43:12. > :43:16.that faith in the future. Our task is to restore people's faith in the

:43:17. > :43:24.future, not by breaking our country but by breaking with the old way of

:43:25. > :43:28.doing things, by breaking the past. I'm not talking about a different

:43:29. > :43:32.policy or a different programme, I'm talking about something much bigger.

:43:33. > :43:38.I'm talking about a different idea, a different ethic for the way our

:43:39. > :43:44.country succeeds. For all the sound and fury in England, Scotland and

:43:45. > :43:49.Wales, what people are actually saying to us is that this country

:43:50. > :43:54.does not care about me. Our economy does not work, and they are not

:43:55. > :44:07.wrong, they are right, and this Labour Party is going to put it

:44:08. > :44:12.right. Friends, to do that, we have got to go back to the very

:44:13. > :44:17.foundations of who we are and how we run things. We just cannot carry on

:44:18. > :44:24.with the belief that we can succeed as a country with a tiny minority at

:44:25. > :44:30.the top doing well. Prosperity in one part of Britain amongst a small

:44:31. > :44:34.elite, a circle that is closed to most, blind to the concerns of

:44:35. > :44:43.people. Sending the message to everyone but a few, you are on your

:44:44. > :44:46.own. Think about it for a minute. In our economy, it is working people

:44:47. > :44:52.who are made to bear the burden of anxiety, precariousness and

:44:53. > :44:56.insecurity. They have been told you are on your own. So many young

:44:57. > :45:02.people think their life will be worse than their parents'.

:45:03. > :45:07.So many small businesses are struggling against forces more

:45:08. > :45:11.powerful than themselves. And the most vulnerable have been thrown on

:45:12. > :45:19.the scrapheap cast aside not listen to, even when they have a case. They

:45:20. > :45:23.have been told you are on your own. And, to cap it all, in our politics,

:45:24. > :45:31.a few have access while everyone else is locked out. They have been

:45:32. > :45:35.told, you are on your own. No wonder people have lost faith in the

:45:36. > :45:43.future. That is why so many people voted to break up our country. Is it

:45:44. > :45:49.any wonder the deck is stark, the game is rigged in favour of those

:45:50. > :45:54.who have all the power? Friends, in eight months time, we are going to

:45:55. > :45:58.call time on this way of running the country. Because you are on your

:45:59. > :46:06.own. APPLAUSE

:46:07. > :46:11.Because you are on your own doesn't work for you, doesn't work for your

:46:12. > :46:12.family. It does not work for Britain.

:46:13. > :46:22.APPLAUSE Can be build a different future for

:46:23. > :46:29.our country? Of course we can. But with a

:46:30. > :46:34.different idea of how we succeed. An idea that, in the end, won the

:46:35. > :46:40.referendum, an idea I love because it says so much about who we are and

:46:41. > :46:44.who we have in ourselves to become. An idea rooted in this party's

:46:45. > :46:50.character and in our country 's history. An idea that build our

:46:51. > :46:57.greatest institutions and got us through our darkest moments. An idea

:46:58. > :47:04.that is just one simple word. Together. Together. Together we can

:47:05. > :47:07.restore faith in the future. Together we can build a better

:47:08. > :47:17.future for the working people of Britain. Together we can rebuild

:47:18. > :47:26.Britain. Friends, together we can. APPLAUSE

:47:27. > :47:30.together said is not just a powerful through the top whose voices should

:47:31. > :47:34.be heard. It should be everyone. It's not just

:47:35. > :47:39.a few wealthy people who create the wealth of our country. It's every

:47:40. > :47:42.working person. Together says we can't just succeed with a country

:47:43. > :47:47.with the talents of a few, but we must use the talents of all. We

:47:48. > :47:51.can't have some people breaking the rules. Everyone has got to play

:47:52. > :47:56.under the same rules and together says we have a duty to look after

:47:57. > :48:00.each other when times are hard. Together, the way we restore faith

:48:01. > :48:11.in the future, together, a different idea for Britain.

:48:12. > :48:18.You might be thinking this sounds like a pretty big undertaking.

:48:19. > :48:23.Changing the way our country is run. A totally different idea. That's

:48:24. > :48:30.quite a big task. Is it really going to be possible? Can we do it? I

:48:31. > :48:36.mean, if the 21st-century. Is that going backwards? It isn't. The

:48:37. > :48:42.reason it isn't, is because that idea is everywhere around us to see.

:48:43. > :48:48.In every walk of life. The inspiration is everywhere. The

:48:49. > :48:52.different way of doing things. Early on I mentioned Gareth, who works as

:48:53. > :48:55.a software company, worried about his daughter and the future. I

:48:56. > :49:00.didn't just meet him but his colleagues as well and that software

:49:01. > :49:04.company, the thing which shines through, it's full of bright young

:49:05. > :49:11.people full of great enthusiasm but it isn't about the boss at the top,

:49:12. > :49:14.each individual on their own, go to every person about company and they

:49:15. > :49:19.say the same thing. You need to use the talents of every single person,

:49:20. > :49:25.not just for software engineers, but the customer service, the accounts,

:49:26. > :49:30.and go to ceremony great businesses across our country and they will say

:49:31. > :49:34.the same thing to you. That is the ethic of the 21st-century in

:49:35. > :49:40.business. We need great entrepreneurs. Britain needs great

:49:41. > :49:47.entrepreneurs, but the greatest entrepreneurs recognised that there

:49:48. > :49:51.are only as strong as their team. It's not just true in business.

:49:52. > :49:55.There will be people who work in our brilliant National Health Service,

:49:56. > :50:06.our brilliant National Health Service, friends.

:50:07. > :50:12.Earlier this year, I spent a couple of days at an NHS hospital in

:50:13. > :50:16.Watford. I wanted to go there to see how things look from the front

:50:17. > :50:20.line, mainly I got in the way, really, but that's what politicians

:50:21. > :50:26.tend to do. And I remember one evening I was in A at 9pm watching

:50:27. > :50:34.nurses from different backgrounds, different walks of life, coming

:50:35. > :50:38.together. I was incredibly moved, incredibly inspired by their

:50:39. > :50:49.teamwork, so proud of our National Health Service.

:50:50. > :50:57.Go to any great hospital, go to any great school, it is the team that

:50:58. > :51:02.makes it strong and then think of our bread Armed Forces and that's

:51:03. > :51:11.paid tribute to them today, friends. -- brilliant Armed Forces. Our

:51:12. > :51:17.brilliant heretic troops are serving our country in the most dangerous

:51:18. > :51:22.places. They will talk about the team and the team which makes it

:51:23. > :51:27.strong. It is true of business, of public services, of the Armed

:51:28. > :51:34.Forces, in so many walks of life, if the ethic of the 20th century was

:51:35. > :51:41.hierarchy, order, planning, control the talents of the 21st-century 's

:51:42. > :51:47.cooperation, everybody playing their part, sharing the rewards, the

:51:48. > :51:49.talents of all together. Friends, it is time we ran the country like we

:51:50. > :52:06.know it can be run. Here is a question for you. If the

:52:07. > :52:13.challenge to run the country on this printable of together, can the

:52:14. > :52:22.Tories be the answer? Can the Tories be the answer? That's better. I will

:52:23. > :52:26.tell you why they can't be the answer because if you want the best

:52:27. > :52:31.example of you are on your own, rigged the system for the powerful

:52:32. > :52:41.view, insecure, throwback dogma, just look at this Government.

:52:42. > :52:46.If you are a low paid worker, struggling to make ends meet,

:52:47. > :52:51.working harder for longer for less, on your own, if you are in the

:52:52. > :52:55.squeezed middle, you feel like you're treading water and you are on

:52:56. > :52:59.your own. If you're on a zero hours contract getting up at 5am every

:53:00. > :53:03.morning, to find out whether you have got work, they will tell you

:53:04. > :53:09.that's how an economy succeeds and you are your own. If you are worried

:53:10. > :53:12.about the railway companies, the payday lenders, they don't want to

:53:13. > :53:16.do anything to help you. You are on your own. If you're one of the 9

:53:17. > :53:20.million people who rent your home in the private sector they are

:53:21. > :53:26.certainly not going to do anything for you. They will tell you you are

:53:27. > :53:33.on your own and why? Because they say intervening would be like

:53:34. > :53:38.Venezuela. That's what they say. They say they don't believe in

:53:39. > :53:45.Government intervention. Really? Of course they do. Because if you are a

:53:46. > :53:48.millionaire who wants a tax cut, they are certainly going to

:53:49. > :53:59.intervene to support you. You are not going to be on your own.

:54:00. > :54:05.If you are a banker, who is worried about your bonus, it's good news for

:54:06. > :54:09.you because George Osborne is going to go all the way to Europe to fight

:54:10. > :54:21.tooth and nail to try to protect it. You certainly won't be on your

:54:22. > :54:25.own. If you are an energy company whose prices and profits are

:54:26. > :54:30.soaring, good news again, you have got a Prime Minister who will be

:54:31. > :54:41.your own PR man. You won't be on your own. And, by the way, if you

:54:42. > :54:51.are a Conservative supporting, gold mining, luxury hotel owning, Putin

:54:52. > :54:57.'s award-winning Russian oligarch, and you have ?160,000 to spare, to

:54:58. > :55:02.bid in an auction, you won't be on your own. You will be on a tennis

:55:03. > :55:09.court saying doubles with David Cameron. That tells you all you need

:55:10. > :55:17.to know about this Government. -- playing doubles.

:55:18. > :55:26.Now, look, we know we have a fight and in the next eight months David

:55:27. > :55:31.Cameron will talk about the past and not going to talk that much about

:55:32. > :55:37.the present and the future. Why? He is going to tell you, the British

:55:38. > :55:41.public, that none of the problems in our country are anything to do with

:55:42. > :55:45.him. He has done a really outstanding, tremendous job and he

:55:46. > :55:50.really deserves a lot of congratulation and thanks. For

:55:51. > :55:55.Britain. You've done a great job, all the problems are nothing to do

:55:56. > :55:58.with him, and if you just hang on till after the general election,

:55:59. > :56:04.things are about to turn the corner for your family. The British people

:56:05. > :56:09.will have to be the judge of this. And I think there are some things to

:56:10. > :56:13.bear in mind. The record of this Government, friends, is not just

:56:14. > :56:24.mediocre, it is one of the worst ever.

:56:25. > :56:37.The longest fall in living standards since 1870. Wages rising slower than

:56:38. > :56:41.prices for 50 out of 51 months. For your family, five years of this

:56:42. > :56:48.Government, five years of sacrifice, zero years of success.

:56:49. > :56:53.Now, you might think that David Cameron is right and things are

:56:54. > :56:56.about to turn around for you and your family full as I say, the

:56:57. > :56:59.British people will have to be the judge of this. But isn't there a

:57:00. > :57:06.second more plausible explanation for their record? A Tory economy is

:57:07. > :57:11.always an economy for the few. Because that is who they care about.

:57:12. > :57:16.That is the basis on which they think a country succeeds. And so the

:57:17. > :57:23.past with this Government is a good guide to the future. Your family

:57:24. > :57:29.worse off. You can't afford to take that risk. The British people can't

:57:30. > :57:45.afford another five years of David Cameron.

:57:46. > :57:58.Now, I have got an idea for our Prime Minister. He likes surfing. He

:57:59. > :58:02.likes playing that game Angry Birdss Andy likes tennis with

:58:03. > :58:07.Russian oligarchs. I've got a great idea. Why don't we give him all the

:58:08. > :58:09.time in the world to do all those things next May, and let's send him

:58:10. > :58:26.into opposition. It's up to us. We have to build a

:58:27. > :58:32.future for you and your family. That is what Labour's plan for Britain's

:58:33. > :58:37.future is all about and today I want to lay out six national goals, not

:58:38. > :58:45.just for one term of office, or one year, but a plan for the next ten

:58:46. > :58:49.years. Britain 2025. The day one of me as Prime Minister. This is the

:58:50. > :58:54.plan and these are the goals I want us to pursue. You might ask why ten

:58:55. > :58:59.years? I will tell you one of the reasons. People are fed up with

:59:00. > :59:04.politicians who come along and say vote for me on day one, everything

:59:05. > :59:06.will be transformed. Friends, the British people won't believe it. It

:59:07. > :59:22.is what I call doing a Nick Clegg. When Nick Clegg broke that promise

:59:23. > :59:28.on tuition fees, he didn't just destroy trust in himself and the

:59:29. > :59:32.Liberal Democrats, he did something else. He destroyed trust in politics

:59:33. > :59:38.for them every time a promise is broken, every time a false promises

:59:39. > :59:41.made, every Time we say vote for us and tomorrow everything will be

:59:42. > :59:45.totally different, people get more and more cynical, more and more

:59:46. > :59:51.turned off, people think politics is more and more a game and all we are

:59:52. > :59:55.in it for is ourselves for the that's why I plan for the next ten

:59:56. > :00:00.years, not a plan which says nothing changes, but a map for the country,

:00:01. > :00:04.for people like Gareth who I talked about earlier. For the young woman

:00:05. > :00:10.who wanted as he Benedict Cumberbatch and ended up with me and

:00:11. > :00:14.said, my generation is falling into a black hole. I want to know there's

:00:15. > :00:18.a future for me. That's what this plan is about and our plan starts

:00:19. > :00:22.with rewarding hard work once again because that's what we're got to do

:00:23. > :00:27.with country. One in five of the men and women who go out to work in our

:00:28. > :00:28.country do their bit, make their contribution, put in hours and find

:00:29. > :00:41.in low pay. Appeal with Britain's traditions,

:00:42. > :00:47.that should shame us all. Our first national goal is that we halve the

:00:48. > :00:49.number of people in low pay by 2025, transforming the lives of 2 million

:00:50. > :01:05.people in our country. The principle of together says we

:01:06. > :01:09.don't just use the talents of everyone, we reward the talents of

:01:10. > :01:14.everyone and the minimum wage has got to be a route to bringing up the

:01:15. > :01:21.family with dignity so we will raise the minimum wage by ?1 50 per hour

:01:22. > :01:35.by 2020, a rise in pay of ?60 per week for a work on the minimum wage,

:01:36. > :01:41.or ?3000 per year. The Tories are the party of wealth and privilege,

:01:42. > :01:46.Labour is the party of hard work fairly paid. It is all working

:01:47. > :01:50.people who should have their talents rewarded so our second national goal

:01:51. > :01:55.is that all working people should share fairly in the growing wealth

:01:56. > :01:59.of the country. That means as the economy grows, the wages of everyday

:02:00. > :02:06.working people grow at the same rate. You know what is amazing is

:02:07. > :02:10.that that statement, that goal is even controversial. It used to be

:02:11. > :02:15.taken for granted in our country that that is what would happen. That

:02:16. > :02:19.is what the cost of living crisis, which the Tories don't understand,

:02:20. > :02:25.is all about. We need a government with a single focus on tackling it,

:02:26. > :02:30.and key to this is transforming our economy so we create good jobs at

:02:31. > :02:34.decent wages. That requires a massive national effort, the

:02:35. > :02:38.principle of together, everyone playing their part. For the

:02:39. > :02:43.Government it means no vested interest, no stale mindset should

:02:44. > :03:00.stand in the way of restoring this. It means reforming our banks,

:03:01. > :03:05.breaking up the big banks. So that we have the competition we need in

:03:06. > :03:10.our banking system. It means getting power out of Whitehall. We are far

:03:11. > :03:15.too centralised country, it is time we did something about it, it is

:03:16. > :03:19.time we transferred power out of Whitehall to our businesses, towns

:03:20. > :03:33.and cities so that they can create the jobs, the prosperity, the wealth

:03:34. > :03:38.that they need. It is about businesses and trade unions engaging

:03:39. > :03:43.in cooperation, not confrontation, and it is also about something else

:03:44. > :03:47.- it is using our historic values to fight for those at the front line of

:03:48. > :03:51.the modern workforce. I'm talking about a group of people that we in

:03:52. > :03:58.the Labour Party haven't talked about that much, and we need to talk

:03:59. > :04:03.about them a lot more, the growing army of self-employed. 5 million

:04:04. > :04:08.people in our country, often the most entrepreneurial go getting

:04:09. > :04:14.people who have a difficult, insecure life very often. Because of

:04:15. > :04:19.the jobs they do, two out of three don't have a pension. One in five

:04:20. > :04:24.cannot get a mortgage. They don't want special treatment, they just

:04:25. > :04:28.want a fair shot. The task for this Labour Party is to end this

:04:29. > :04:36.21st-century modern discrimination and it is to fight and deliver equal

:04:37. > :04:47.rights for the self-employed in Britain.

:04:48. > :04:55.I said earlier that we need to create good jobs at decent wages to

:04:56. > :04:59.transform our economy. Those jobs are the future so our third national

:05:00. > :05:05.goal is that by 2025, Britain becomes truly a world leader in the

:05:06. > :05:10.green economy, creating 1 million new jobs as we do. Under this

:05:11. > :05:16.Government, we are falling behind Germany, Japan, the United States,

:05:17. > :05:20.even India and China when it comes to green technology and services.

:05:21. > :05:23.There are so many brilliant businesses who are desperate to do

:05:24. > :05:31.their part but the Government is not playing its part. With our plan, we

:05:32. > :05:36.will. We are going to commit to taking all of the carbon out of

:05:37. > :05:40.electricity by 2030. We are going to have a green investment bank with

:05:41. > :05:44.powers to borrow and attract new investment, and as Caroline Flint

:05:45. > :05:48.will announce tomorrow, we will devolve power and resources to

:05:49. > :06:06.communities so we can insulate 5 million homes over the next ten

:06:07. > :06:11.years. The environment is that fashionable any more in politics, as

:06:12. > :06:17.you may have noticed with David Cameron, but it matters. It is

:06:18. > :06:22.incredibly important for our economy and there is no more important issue

:06:23. > :06:26.for me when I think about my children's generation and what I can

:06:27. > :06:46.do in politics than tackling global climate change. We need a plan for

:06:47. > :06:51.jobs, we need a plan for wages. We need a plan that can actually help

:06:52. > :06:56.the working families of our country. At the heart of our plan for our

:06:57. > :07:01.country and your family is also a future for all of our young people.

:07:02. > :07:08.I met somebody called Elizabeth the other day, where is she? She is

:07:09. > :07:14.here. Why don't you stand up for one second. Elizabeth is an apprentice.

:07:15. > :07:25.APPLAUSE Elizabeth is an apprentice, and auto

:07:26. > :07:34.electrician. I think it is fair to say you are breaking through what

:07:35. > :07:38.has been up until now pretty much a man's world. Let's have a round of

:07:39. > :07:45.applause for what she is doing. She is one of the lucky few. Actually

:07:46. > :07:49.Elizabeth's school, because I met her yesterday, her school helped her

:07:50. > :07:54.to get an apprenticeship but so many other schools don't do that. Lots of

:07:55. > :07:57.the young people I meet on apprenticeships say, my school said

:07:58. > :08:03.apprenticeships were rubbish and they wouldn't help me, but now I am

:08:04. > :08:06.doing it, it is really great for me. Frankly there are not enough and

:08:07. > :08:12.they are not high-quality enough so our fourth national goal is that by

:08:13. > :08:16.2025, as many young people will be leaving school or college to go onto

:08:17. > :08:31.an apprenticeship as currently go to university. I have got to tell you,

:08:32. > :08:37.this is an absolutely huge undertaking. We are such a long way

:08:38. > :08:41.from this as a country. It will require a massive national effort.

:08:42. > :08:47.It will require young people to show the ambition to do well and to get

:08:48. > :08:52.on. It will require schools to lead a dramatic change in education, with

:08:53. > :08:57.new gold standard technical qualifications, and it will need

:08:58. > :08:59.business and government to lead a revolution in apprenticeships.

:09:00. > :09:04.Government is good at preaching to business about what it should be

:09:05. > :09:07.doing. Let me tell you, government is absolutely useless when it comes

:09:08. > :09:13.to apprenticeships, and it is true of governments of both parties. In

:09:14. > :09:17.Germany they do a fantastic job of giving apprenticeships to the next

:09:18. > :09:21.generation. We don't do that in this country so first we have got to

:09:22. > :09:25.tackle the failure by government, then we say to business that you

:09:26. > :09:30.have got to play your part. If you want to bring in a worker from

:09:31. > :09:33.outside the European Union, that is OK, but you must provide an

:09:34. > :09:43.apprenticeship to the next generation. We cannot have what is

:09:44. > :09:46.happening at the moment in IT where you have got more and more people

:09:47. > :09:51.coming in but the amount of apprenticeships falling in IT. We

:09:52. > :09:55.have got to say to business that we are going to give you control of the

:09:56. > :10:00.money for apprenticeships for the first time but in exchange, if you

:10:01. > :10:16.want a major government contract, you must provide apprenticeships to

:10:17. > :10:23.our young people. The plan for jobs, for wages, for education, but what

:10:24. > :10:27.is it, what are the things that give confidence and security in life? It

:10:28. > :10:35.is the love of people we care most about, decent work properly

:10:36. > :10:39.rewarded, but also the security of having a home of your own. That

:10:40. > :10:43.British dream of home ownership is fading for so many people. Under

:10:44. > :10:48.this Government we are building fewer homes than at any time since

:10:49. > :10:54.the 1920s, so our fifth national goal is that by 2025, for the first

:10:55. > :10:59.time in 50 years, this country will be building as many homes as we

:11:00. > :11:11.need, doubling the number of first-time buyers in our country.

:11:12. > :11:18.Again, it will require a massive national effort. We won't let large

:11:19. > :11:22.developers sit on land. We will say to small developers of construction

:11:23. > :11:27.companies that we will help them to build homes again in our country. We

:11:28. > :11:31.will build a new generation of towns, garden cities and suburbs,

:11:32. > :11:36.creating over half a million new homes, and we will also make housing

:11:37. > :11:40.the top priority for additional capital investment in the next

:11:41. > :12:00.Parliament. This party will get Britain building again. Your family

:12:01. > :12:05.also needs public services you can rely on. Education, policing,

:12:06. > :12:09.transport. Nowhere is that more true than for the national health

:12:10. > :12:15.service. I mentioned earlier that I spent a couple of days at a hospital

:12:16. > :12:20.in Watford earlier this year. I met an amazing man called Colin in his

:12:21. > :12:25.80s who sadly died a few weeks later, but I will always remember my

:12:26. > :12:31.conversation with him. He remembered the foundation of the NHS. He

:12:32. > :12:40.remembered what life was like before the National Health Service. I

:12:41. > :12:45.remember him saying to me, Ed, the problem then was you were on your

:12:46. > :12:49.own, on your own having to pay for medical treatment. Friends, we are

:12:50. > :12:54.so proud of our National Health Service and I know my duty to Colin

:12:55. > :13:11.and the British people is to make sure our NHS is there when we need

:13:12. > :13:15.it. So our sixth national goal is that we create a truly world-class

:13:16. > :13:20.21st-century health and care service, because the hospital is

:13:21. > :13:26.only as good as the services in the community. That is the biggest

:13:27. > :13:30.lesson I learned in Watford. If people cannot get to see their GP,

:13:31. > :13:35.if elderly people cannot get the visit they need, they end up in

:13:36. > :13:40.hospital when it could have been avoided. That is bad for them and

:13:41. > :13:48.bad for the taxpayer. It costs billions of pounds. Let's face it,

:13:49. > :13:54.those services are creaking. One in four people cannot get to see their

:13:55. > :13:57.GP within a week. We have had the scandal of home care visits for the

:13:58. > :14:05.elderly restricted to just 15 minutes. In this day and age. The

:14:06. > :14:14.NHS faces huge challenges over the coming years. We will transform our

:14:15. > :14:20.NHS. It is time to care about our NHS. We need doctors, nurses,

:14:21. > :14:25.midwives, care workers who are able to spend proper time with us, not

:14:26. > :14:32.rushed off their feet. So we will set aside resources so we can have

:14:33. > :14:40.3000 more midwives, 5000 more care workers, 8000 more GPs and 20,000

:14:41. > :15:12.more nurses. And NHS with time to care.

:15:13. > :15:21.In order to pay for it, we won't borrow an extra penny. Or raise

:15:22. > :15:27.taxes on ordinary working families. We will clamp down on tax

:15:28. > :15:30.avoidance, including tax loopholes by the hedge funds, to raise over ?1

:15:31. > :15:43.billion. We will use the proceeds of a

:15:44. > :15:55.mansion tax on homes above ?2 million. And we will raise extra

:15:56. > :15:57.resources from the tobacco companies who make soaring profits on the back

:15:58. > :16:12.of ill health. Because, friends, the principle of

:16:13. > :16:16.building it together means everyone playing our part in making our NHS

:16:17. > :16:35.what it needs to be. In total, we will set aside ?2.5

:16:36. > :16:39.billion in an NHS time to care fund and tomorrow, Andy Burnham will set

:16:40. > :16:43.out our integrated plan for physical health, mental health and care for

:16:44. > :16:55.the elderly. Truly a 21st-century National Health Service.

:16:56. > :17:00.The stakes are incredibly high at the selection and nowhere more so

:17:01. > :17:04.than on the National Health Service because we know the NHS is sliding

:17:05. > :17:09.backwards under this Government. We know they are privatising and

:17:10. > :17:13.fragmenting it. Just imagine what another five years of David Cameron

:17:14. > :17:20.would mean for our national health service, friends. We are not going

:17:21. > :17:21.to let it happen. Our NHS is too precious, too important, and we will

:17:22. > :17:36.not let it happen. Friends, we built the NHS, we saved

:17:37. > :17:41.the NHS, we are going to repeal the health and social care bill and we

:17:42. > :17:46.are going to transform our NHS for the future. That is what the next

:17:47. > :18:15.Labour Government will do and, friends, we will do it together!

:18:16. > :18:25.Six national goals, friends. To transform our country. Not a false

:18:26. > :18:31.promise on day one. Not some pie in the sky idea that can't be

:18:32. > :18:37.delivered. Real concrete ideas that can transform our country. That can

:18:38. > :18:43.restore faith in the future. A plan for Britain's future. Labour's plan

:18:44. > :18:48.for Britain's future. But to make that happen, we also have to do

:18:49. > :18:52.something else. And transform who has power in our country. So that

:18:53. > :18:59.those who feel locked out feel let back in. You know people think

:19:00. > :19:03.Westminster politics is out of touch, irrelevant, and often

:19:04. > :19:07.disconnected from their lives. As someone who stands at Prime

:19:08. > :19:13.Minister's Questions each Wednesday, I often know what they

:19:14. > :19:17.mean. We might as well say it. It's what people think about politics.

:19:18. > :19:20.They think it's not about them, and we have got to change it for that we

:19:21. > :19:24.don't need to just restore people 's faith in the future, with the

:19:25. > :19:28.economic and social plan, we need to change the way politics works in

:19:29. > :19:35.this country. What does that mean? First of all, it's time to hear

:19:36. > :19:37.young people in politics so we will give the vote to 16 and 17-year-olds

:19:38. > :19:59.in general elections. It's time to complete the unfinished

:20:00. > :20:08.business of the reform of the House of Lords so we have a true senate of

:20:09. > :20:17.the nations and regions. And it's time to devolve power in England.

:20:18. > :20:21.And I'm incredibly proud of our proposals, ambitious proposals, to

:20:22. > :20:26.reverse a century of centralisation and there can be no better place to

:20:27. > :20:30.be talking about this than here in Manchester, devolving power to local

:20:31. > :20:41.Government, bringing power closer to people right across England.

:20:42. > :20:47.And we need bigger reform of our Constitution full here is the thing,

:20:48. > :20:51.friends also given Everton and about what people think about Westminster

:20:52. > :20:55.politics, it has got to be led by the people for the bid can't be some

:20:56. > :20:59.Westminster stitch up. That is why we need a proper constitutional

:21:00. > :21:04.convention harnessing the civic energy and spirit are people right

:21:05. > :21:12.across our land. England, Scotland, Wales, every part of United Kingdom.

:21:13. > :21:18.But you know I've realised something else. Giving people voices is also

:21:19. > :21:25.about recognising who we are as a nation. We are more than ever four

:21:26. > :21:30.countries and one. England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland

:21:31. > :21:35.and Britain, too. Each nation making its contribution. We're not just a

:21:36. > :21:41.better together, we are greater together. And that's not something

:21:42. > :21:48.to fear. That is something to be proud of. I learned something really

:21:49. > :21:53.important, as I'm sure we all did, in this referendum campaign. All of

:21:54. > :21:58.those people who are proud to be Scottish and proud to be British,

:21:59. > :22:03.just like you are so many people who are proud to be Welsh and proud to

:22:04. > :22:08.be British, no one more so than our brilliant First Minister of Wales,

:22:09. > :22:19.Carwyn Jones. Let's hear it for him today, ladies and gentlemen.

:22:20. > :22:29.And so to we can be proud to be English and proud to be British. And

:22:30. > :22:38.I say to this party, we must fight for these traditions and not see

:22:39. > :22:41.them to others. Englishness, a history of solidarity, from the

:22:42. > :22:50.Battle of cable Street against Oswald Mosley and the Blackshirts,

:22:51. > :22:54.to the spirit of the Blitz, Englishness, traditions of fairness,

:22:55. > :22:58.from the Ford workers at Dagenham who fought for equal pay, to

:22:59. > :23:10.today's campaigners for the living wage. Englishness, a spirit of

:23:11. > :23:22.international is, from those who fought in the Spanish Civil War to

:23:23. > :23:25.our generosity to those overseas. Friends, there will be some people

:23:26. > :23:30.who tell you that being English, Welsh or Scottish means dividing or

:23:31. > :23:38.setting ourselves against each other. Rubbish. Why? Because here is

:23:39. > :23:42.what we, the Labour Party, no. The injustices facing working people

:23:43. > :23:55.face them right across the United Kingdom. And we can only tackle them

:23:56. > :23:59.together. That is, after all, what we spent the last two years fighting

:24:00. > :24:02.for and I am not going to let anyone, after the last two years,

:24:03. > :24:17.drive us apart. And if David Cameron cares so much

:24:18. > :24:26.about the union, why is he seeking to divide us? He is learning the

:24:27. > :24:31.wrong lessons from Scotland. He is learning the wrong lessons from

:24:32. > :24:35.Scotland because what he doesn't understand is that the lessons are,

:24:36. > :24:41.of course, about the constitution, but they are not about playing

:24:42. > :24:47.political tactics about England. And here is why he is doing it. David

:24:48. > :24:52.Cameron doesn't lie awake at night thinking about the United Kingdom.

:24:53. > :24:59.The lies awake at night thinking about the United Kingdom

:25:00. > :25:10.Independence party, UKIP. That is why he is doing it, friends. And I

:25:11. > :25:15.say, pandering to them as just one more reason why he is not set to be

:25:16. > :25:35.the Prime Minister of this great country.

:25:36. > :25:41.So, better together across United Kingdom but also better together

:25:42. > :25:45.true to our traditions of internationalism, and nowhere is

:25:46. > :25:52.that more true than when it comes to Europe and the European Union.

:25:53. > :25:58.Friends, let me say it plainly, our future lies in the side, not

:25:59. > :26:10.outside, the European Union. -- inside.

:26:11. > :26:17.We need to reform Europe for that we need to reform Europe and the

:26:18. > :26:21.economy on immigration, benefits, all of these big issues but here is

:26:22. > :26:26.the question for Britain. How do we do that? Do we reform Europe by

:26:27. > :26:32.building alliances or by burning them? What is really good as we've

:26:33. > :26:35.had a recent test case by David Cameron of his strategy. I don't

:26:36. > :26:41.know whether you missed it but about somebody called Jean-Claude Juncker.

:26:42. > :26:47.In case you missed the score, it's not so good from his point of view,

:26:48. > :26:53.because we lost by 26-2. Why did he lose? Because at the start people

:26:54. > :26:59.thought he might win that a vote for such I will tell you why. Because

:27:00. > :27:03.the problem for our country is that when David Cameron comes calling,

:27:04. > :27:09.people don't think he's calling about the problems of Britain or

:27:10. > :27:12.Europe, they think he is calling on the problems of the Conservative

:27:13. > :27:18.Party. Here is a funny thing, friends. If you are elected

:27:19. > :27:21.Chancellor of Germany, the Prime Minister of Italy, the President of

:27:22. > :27:26.France, you don't really think you are a letter to solve the problems

:27:27. > :27:36.of the Conservative Party. -- elected to solve the problems of the

:27:37. > :27:42.Conservative Party. That's why he can't succeed for our country. What

:27:43. > :27:46.we had over Jean-Claude Juncker is just a preview of what could be for

:27:47. > :27:55.this country if David Cameron was back in power after 2015. Because he

:27:56. > :28:00.lost 26-2 over that. He has to win 28-0 to get a reform of Europe,

:28:01. > :28:05.unanimity. No chance for David Cameron. He has got no chance of

:28:06. > :28:09.fighting for this country. People think he's got one hand on the exit

:28:10. > :28:15.door and his strategy has failed. If you want to reform Europe, change

:28:16. > :28:20.the way Europe works, if you want to keep Britain in the European Union,

:28:21. > :28:25.and if you realise that the biggest threat to our prosperity is now the

:28:26. > :28:40.Conservative Party, the right answer is a Labour Government.

:28:41. > :28:44.I am determined, as Prime Minister, to promote our values all around the

:28:45. > :28:49.world and one of the things that means, friends, is seeking a

:28:50. > :28:52.solution to a problem that we know in our heart is one of the biggest

:28:53. > :28:54.problem that we know in our hearts as one of the biggest problems our

:28:55. > :28:57.world faces. And that is issues in the Middle East, Israel and

:28:58. > :29:05.Palestine. I'd tell you, I will fight with every fibre of my being

:29:06. > :29:10.to get the two state solution, Israel and Palestinian state living

:29:11. > :29:12.side-by-side. That will be a very, very important task of the next

:29:13. > :29:26.Labour Government, friends. There's one other thing I want to

:29:27. > :29:31.say by what we need to do abroad. We have made extraordinary progress on

:29:32. > :29:36.lesbian and gay rights. Over the last 20 years. When I think other

:29:37. > :29:42.transformations I have seen growing up into adulthood, it's the biggest

:29:43. > :29:45.transformation for that we have got such progress on the quality. But we

:29:46. > :29:50.have to face the fact internationally, things are going

:29:51. > :29:54.backwards. We can't just let that happen for that we can't just say

:29:55. > :30:00.that's OK. This Labour Government will fight to make sure that we

:30:01. > :30:07.fight for our values and for human rights all around the world so today

:30:08. > :30:12.I can announce that I am appointing Michael Cashman, Lord Cashman, as

:30:13. > :30:34.our envoy on LGB Teague writes all around the world. -- LGB

:30:35. > :30:41.It is about a plan at home and abroad but it is also about

:30:42. > :30:45.leadership. The next nine months represent my interview with the

:30:46. > :30:49.British people for one of the most important jobs in our country. I

:30:50. > :30:54.care about big ideas that can change our country, the principle of

:30:55. > :30:58.together. I care about hearing the voices of people right across our

:30:59. > :31:03.land and not shutting them out. I care about using the power of

:31:04. > :31:07.government to stand up against powerful forces when we need to do

:31:08. > :31:13.so. It came home to me the other day when I met Rosie, the doctor from

:31:14. > :31:17.Devon, and she said to me that we need someone who can stand up for

:31:18. > :31:22.working, everyday people, because you will have the power and we

:31:23. > :31:29.won't. That's why I stood up to Rupert Murdoch over phone hacking,

:31:30. > :31:32.that's why I stood up to the payday lenders over their exploitation of

:31:33. > :31:37.the poorest people in our country, that's why I stood up to the energy

:31:38. > :31:45.companies, and it's why I stood up to the Daily Mail when they set my

:31:46. > :32:10.dad hated Britain because I know my dad loved Britain. APPLAUSE

:32:11. > :32:15.That is me, but what about the other guy?

:32:16. > :32:21.This isn't a conventional job interview so I get to say something

:32:22. > :32:26.about him. He stands up for the principle of you are on your own, he

:32:27. > :32:30.stands up for the privileged few. He really thinks a good photo

:32:31. > :32:33.opportunity will fool people into thinking that he doesn't really

:32:34. > :32:38.stand up for the rich and privileged, he stands up for you and

:32:39. > :32:44.your family. In this day and age when people are so cynical about

:32:45. > :32:55.politics, I think it adds to that cynicism. Here is the thing. He has

:32:56. > :33:00.been found out, because he hugged is a husky before the election, then he

:33:01. > :33:05.said cut the crap after an election. He was standing outside a hospital

:33:06. > :33:13.before the election with a placard saying no hospital closures, and he

:33:14. > :33:16.closed that very same A department after the election. He changed his

:33:17. > :33:28.logo to the tree before the election, then tried to sell the

:33:29. > :33:33.forest after the election! And he has been found out because he said

:33:34. > :33:39.he was a compassionate Conservative before the election, and he imposed

:33:40. > :33:53.the cruel, vindictive, the unfair bedroom tax after the election. And

:33:54. > :33:58.you know what gets me even more? Even now, with all the tales of

:33:59. > :34:03.misery, hardship, injustice, he thinks a bit of rebranding will get

:34:04. > :34:09.him off the hook so he calls it the spare room subsidy as if that will

:34:10. > :34:23.make the problem go away. Well, David Cameron, you have been found

:34:24. > :34:27.out. Friends, there is a choice of leadership at this election, a real

:34:28. > :34:32.stark choice of leadership. Leadership that stands for the

:34:33. > :34:40.privileged few, or leadership that fight for you and your family. This

:34:41. > :34:44.isn't just about leadership, the Government and Labour's plan for

:34:45. > :34:53.Britain's future, it is also about all of you. We cannot build the

:34:54. > :35:01.country we need without you, without mobilising every part of Britain. So

:35:02. > :35:07.I say to young people, we need your hopes, your energy, your vitality. I

:35:08. > :35:13.say to every older person, we respect your service and we need

:35:14. > :35:20.your wisdom. I say to every business, you can be part of this.

:35:21. > :35:27.We cannot do it without you. I say to every entrepreneur we need your

:35:28. > :35:33.ideas, your enthusiasm. I say to every charity, we admire your spirit

:35:34. > :35:38.and we want to hear your voice. I say to every nurse, every teacher,

:35:39. > :35:53.every public service worker, we salute your dedication and we know

:35:54. > :35:56.why you do what you do. I say to every person in our country who

:35:57. > :36:02.believes that tomorrow can be better than today, we need you. Together we

:36:03. > :36:09.bring up our families, together we look out for our neighbours,

:36:10. > :36:13.together we care for our communities and we build great businesses, the

:36:14. > :36:19.best in the world. We teach the young, heal the sick, care for the

:36:20. > :36:24.cold, create keels for terrible diseases, so of course together we

:36:25. > :36:28.can rebuild our country. We can reward hard work, we can make sure

:36:29. > :36:34.the best generation does better than the last. Together we can make our

:36:35. > :36:39.NHS greater than it has ever been before. Together we can make Britain

:36:40. > :36:44.proud, stronger in the world, we can restore faith in the future. On our

:36:45. > :36:48.own we cannot, but together we can. In the next eight months, the

:36:49. > :36:53.British people face one of the biggest choices in generations, the

:36:54. > :36:58.choice between carrying on as we are, on your own for the privileged

:36:59. > :37:05.few, are different, better future for our country. We are ready.

:37:06. > :37:12.Labour's plan for Britain's future, let's make it happen together. Thank

:37:13. > :37:28.you very much. APPLAUSE

:37:29. > :37:36.Ed Miliband finishes his speech to the Labour Party conference of

:37:37. > :37:41.2014. It wasn't quite 80 minutes but it was almost 80 minutes. A lot of

:37:42. > :37:46.use of the word together, sounding like the Pet Shop Boys, as the

:37:47. > :37:52.conference rises to his feet. A kiss from the wife for a job well done.

:37:53. > :37:58.He outlined his plan for Britain, covering housing, jobs, the NHS, and

:37:59. > :38:03.it was only when he came to the NHS that the speech really came alive in

:38:04. > :38:07.the conference hall. Ed Miliband outlined ways in which extra money

:38:08. > :38:12.would be raised to increase the number of doctors, nurses and other

:38:13. > :38:15.people in the health service. That was the centrepiece of what his

:38:16. > :38:22.message was not just of the party faithful today, but to the wider

:38:23. > :38:27.electorate watching at home. It is always a bit of an ordeal for the

:38:28. > :38:32.party leaders, these speeches. Time now to relax and take the applause.

:38:33. > :38:49.Let's hear about how they are reacting in the conference hall.

:38:50. > :39:00.Ed Miliband began his speech with reference to the situation in Syria

:39:01. > :39:04.and Iraq and indeed while Mr Miliband was speaking here in

:39:05. > :39:10.Manchester, the president was making a speech in the United States in

:39:11. > :39:16.which he said that this is not America's fight alone, referring to

:39:17. > :39:21.the bombing attacks on Syria, as well as Iraq. What we didn't get

:39:22. > :39:25.from the Labour leader was exactly what Labour's policy would be,

:39:26. > :39:31.should Britain decide it wants to take part in these attacks as well.

:39:32. > :39:35.That is something we may follow up with in a moment. The speech is

:39:36. > :39:41.over. He is about to leave the hall, probably put his feet up for a

:39:42. > :39:47.couple of minutes. It was a long speech, even by modern party

:39:48. > :39:51.conference standards. Charlie Falconer is still with me, Nick

:39:52. > :39:56.Robinson has just rushed back from the hall. What did you make of it?

:39:57. > :40:01.He described the next eight months as a job interview but he didn't try

:40:02. > :40:07.really hard to sell himself. He tried instead to sell an idea,

:40:08. > :40:15.summed up in that word together. I didn't count, but well over 100

:40:16. > :40:20.times. He chose one simple policy to summarise that idea, the NHS. In a

:40:21. > :40:32.way you could strip the entire speech down to two sentences,

:40:33. > :40:38.believed Labour has, the symbol of that being investing in the NHS.

:40:39. > :40:43.Lots more goals and policies, many of them familiar, but in its essence

:40:44. > :40:47.that was it. I thought it was a meaty speech, well delivered. We

:40:48. > :40:52.said before it started there was considerable pressure on him, he

:40:53. > :40:57.rose to the occasion I thought. I don't agree that it is only about

:40:58. > :41:04.the NHS, it is meaty because the six promises contained more policies,

:41:05. > :41:10.and he talked about the extent to which people are bearing the burden

:41:11. > :41:14.of the crisis, and he spoke about how to solve it. I don't agree with

:41:15. > :41:19.you completely that it was as stripped down as you say. It was

:41:20. > :41:27.really well delivered and there is real substance in it and there is a

:41:28. > :41:32.speech that will repay a lot afterwards. I have just been told he

:41:33. > :41:35.said the word together 51 times. What did he say about the economy?

:41:36. > :41:44.He indicated the need for apprenticeships. He didn't speak in

:41:45. > :41:49.any detail about macro economy policy but he was talking about the

:41:50. > :41:54.future. He specified how he was going to paper the extra jobs in the

:41:55. > :41:58.NHS that he identified. You cannot afford to do any of that unless you

:41:59. > :42:03.preside over a strong, growing economy and he had nothing to say

:42:04. > :42:09.the economy. Ed Balls dealt with that yesterday. He hopes to be the

:42:10. > :42:12.prime minister, and also hopes to be the first Lord of the Treasury. It

:42:13. > :42:17.is not incumbent on a man who would be our Prime Minister to talk about

:42:18. > :42:24.his economic policy? That was done by the Shadow Chancellor. This is

:42:25. > :42:28.the speech covered live on afternoon television, the one that is

:42:29. > :42:32.dissected, and it is the economy that will determine the election,

:42:33. > :42:37.and yet the leader of the opposition didn't outline his economic policy.

:42:38. > :42:41.If you don't have economic policy, you don't have the health service.

:42:42. > :42:49.You mean what we are going to do about the deficit, and that is what

:42:50. > :42:57.Ed Balls dealt with yesterday. Why repeat it? What did he say about

:42:58. > :43:03.growth? He indicated that we would be cutting the deficit. That is what

:43:04. > :43:09.the Conservatives believed in. We believe in not so deep and not so

:43:10. > :43:13.long. I think it is striking that this was more about the goals that

:43:14. > :43:16.would be achieved if you could restructure the way the economy

:43:17. > :43:23.delivers for ordinary people, that has been the key theme of the

:43:24. > :43:30.Miliband leadership throughout. He spelt out with a series of long-term

:43:31. > :43:37.goal how exactly that would be done. My point about the NHS being the

:43:38. > :43:42.symbol is that Labour know that the ratings of Ed Miliband are not

:43:43. > :43:47.high, he didn't try to change them in terms of telling a story about

:43:48. > :43:52.himself. He spoke about policy and I think he did something else rather

:43:53. > :43:57.interesting, and I think it works better on television than in the

:43:58. > :44:02.hall. It was quite short on what the spin doctors call clap lines, there

:44:03. > :44:06.was a deliberate effort to have a conversation with the country. At

:44:07. > :44:11.times there were some people struggling to stay awake in there.

:44:12. > :44:17.My instinct is that if you stuck with it, if you are interested in

:44:18. > :44:21.what a Labour government would do, it was engaging. Enough of the

:44:22. > :44:26.pundits and the politicians, let's find out what the Labour delegates

:44:27. > :44:32.thought. Jo. Here I am in the midst of the

:44:33. > :44:37.delegates as they come out of the conference hall. Your impressions of

:44:38. > :44:42.the speech? I thought it was a strong speech, it has given us a lot

:44:43. > :44:46.to work with and to sell on the doorstep this Saturday. I liked

:44:47. > :44:53.particularly the announcement on more doctors and nurses. That got a

:44:54. > :44:54.massive cheer. And the fact that was married up with closing tax

:44:55. > :45:06.loopholes. What about votes for 16 and

:45:07. > :45:11.17-year-olds? Did not appeal to you? I think it's a positive move for the

:45:12. > :45:16.babe showing themselves to be engaged in the Scottish referendum.

:45:17. > :45:20.Young people everywhere vote is more commonly when they vote at a younger

:45:21. > :45:25.age, so it will engender democratic participation in younger people.

:45:26. > :45:30.Something to take to the doorstep that lady said. What did you think?

:45:31. > :45:36.Fairly solid waste it talk about opening up politics wider than the

:45:37. > :45:38.Westminster bubble, I thought that build on the experiences of the

:45:39. > :45:44.Scottish referendum over the last few months. It sounds not

:45:45. > :45:50.inspirational. Was that Britain much what you expect it Britain Mark the

:45:51. > :45:55.obvious they had a lot to do today and I thought he did it. You will

:45:56. > :46:03.take it to the doorsteps? I probably will. What was the big thought from

:46:04. > :46:06.that speech? The NHS is being crushed by the Conservatives and Ed

:46:07. > :46:10.Miliband has a plan to get it back but the LGBT factor as well. The

:46:11. > :46:16.Labour Party has said it is a problem across the world and I'm 26

:46:17. > :46:19.years old and I've seen it the natural in Britain now and it needs

:46:20. > :46:25.to be across the world. The NHS, people might say, belongs to Labour

:46:26. > :46:29.by what about things like cutting spending and balancing the books?

:46:30. > :46:34.Did we hear enough about that? I think we have a proper planning

:46:35. > :46:38.plays and Ed Miliband is the man to lead us. David Cameron has not done

:46:39. > :46:42.enough in the last five years but Ed Miliband has said these are the

:46:43. > :46:47.things we are going to do and he is not made promises he can't keep like

:46:48. > :46:52.Nick Clegg did. No party can turn it around in five years and that's what

:46:53. > :46:57.he's done for us today, I think. The 10-year plan, that's longer than

:46:58. > :47:02.Stalin. No idea, but I hope it works. What about the slogan? What

:47:03. > :47:13.did he say more times than anything else? Togetherness, we can achieve

:47:14. > :47:20.more together. We can achieve 1945 again, where we created the NHS. We

:47:21. > :47:26.can fund services and have the renationalisation of railways. This

:47:27. > :47:35.is only the start. 1 have a socialist society, the next 10-year

:47:36. > :47:38.plan, we can add even more great socialism in society. The 10-year

:47:39. > :47:43.plan is brilliant. His speech was inspiring. He is going to number ten

:47:44. > :47:51.Downing St for the birth of a man for the people. Together we stand.

:47:52. > :47:57.This is the best for Britain. The lady has got my microphone. Back to

:47:58. > :48:03.you, Andrew. Thanks, Jo.

:48:04. > :48:05.While Ed Miliband was on his feet, President Obama was talking

:48:06. > :48:07.about the US strategy to tackle Islamic State.

:48:08. > :48:09.This comes after last night's strikes

:48:10. > :48:11.against the Jihadis in Syria, where, previously, bombing has been

:48:12. > :48:21.The Americans were joined by five Arab allies on their attack on

:48:22. > :48:26.Islamic positions in Syria. This is what the American president had to

:48:27. > :48:31.say. We are joined in this action by our friends and partners, Saudi

:48:32. > :48:35.Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Jordan, Bahrain, and Qatar. America

:48:36. > :48:39.is proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with these nations on

:48:40. > :48:44.behalf of our common security. The strength of this coalition makes it

:48:45. > :48:48.clear to the world that this is not America's fight alone. Above all,

:48:49. > :48:52.people in Government in the Middle East are rejecting Isis and standing

:48:53. > :48:58.up for the peace and security the people in the region and the world

:48:59. > :49:02.deserve. The president speaking a few moments ago. Let's talk to the

:49:03. > :49:10.Shadow Health Secretary Andy Burnham. Welcome. The president said

:49:11. > :49:13.this is not America's fight alone. If Britain was to be asked to be

:49:14. > :49:18.involved in the strikes, would Labour support them? Ed Miliband

:49:19. > :49:22.said we will support the action being taken and play our part.

:49:23. > :49:28.Anybody who went to the debate a decade ago think carefully about

:49:29. > :49:34.taking this step. Of course we do. We'll Britain take part in air

:49:35. > :49:37.strikes? That's not a decision which has been made. Parliament would have

:49:38. > :49:43.to make that decision. And if it comes to Parliament, which way would

:49:44. > :49:46.Labour vote? We would support the action taken. It's a decision for

:49:47. > :49:50.Parliament and we would have to see what the Prime Minister and the

:49:51. > :49:57.president agreed and put to Parliament. We can't prejudge that,

:49:58. > :50:01.can we? It's a situation. When you hear about the situation with Alan

:50:02. > :50:06.Henning, an appalling state of affairs, most people will say

:50:07. > :50:13.something needs to be done to take on this brutal outfit. Ed Miliband

:50:14. > :50:20.didn't spend much time on it. He said he wanted a UN resolution.

:50:21. > :50:23.Would that be a precondition of British participation? He was very

:50:24. > :50:28.clear on that and I think the art thinking about the debates of a

:50:29. > :50:33.decade ago but it would be wrong if we didn't. That was an issue that,

:50:34. > :50:37.in the end, fractured people and it's important we work hard to build

:50:38. > :50:41.that international consensus about any action and that's why he was

:50:42. > :50:47.right. He began his speech with it, Andrew. He didn't actually say it

:50:48. > :50:51.would be a precondition and said he wanted one. Are you saying would be

:50:52. > :50:56.a precondition of Labour support for British participation but they would

:50:57. > :51:00.have to be a UN resolution? We are going to see what they agree in New

:51:01. > :51:03.York tomorrow. Let's see what is discussed and what the Prime

:51:04. > :51:10.Minister asks of us as a Labour Party. I can't prejudge that

:51:11. > :51:14.discussion. It would be ridiculous of me to do that. You said it would

:51:15. > :51:21.be a precondition of a UN resolution and I'm simply asking again, is that

:51:22. > :51:30.right? Ed Miliband was very clear. No comedy wasn't. You quoted him. --

:51:31. > :51:36.no, he wasn't. I can't answer that right now. We can't see what the

:51:37. > :51:40.postal primers double put to Parliament. Be fair, these are

:51:41. > :51:45.serious matters. I can't speak without the detail being put to us.

:51:46. > :51:51.Emphasis on the NHS, but of course, we can't have an NHS that is well

:51:52. > :51:55.funded and works for all of us unless we have a growing and

:51:56. > :52:01.prosperous economy. Why was this so little mentioned about the economy

:52:02. > :52:07.in his speech? You are joking. There was not a single mention of the

:52:08. > :52:14.deficit. An economy which works for everybody rather than a few of the

:52:15. > :52:17.top. He didn't tell us anything. He was talk that people self-employed,

:52:18. > :52:23.giving them the same support other people take the granted, talking

:52:24. > :52:27.about a minimum wage that pays a decent wage to everybody. He was

:52:28. > :52:30.talking about taking away that insecurity of low-paid work. I think

:52:31. > :52:37.that is a lot of important statement on the economy. The deficit? Ed

:52:38. > :52:43.Balls said we take a difficult decision about child benefit to show

:52:44. > :52:47.its various. Ed said it would not be paid for by more borrowing, but by

:52:48. > :52:52.asking those who can afford it and were not paying their share at the

:52:53. > :52:57.moment, to that contribution. Let's look at a number of ways, the

:52:58. > :53:03.mansion tax, so-called, how much will that race? We are being

:53:04. > :53:08.cautious and we think it could raise at least ?1.2 billion. Let's

:53:09. > :53:13.remember the Lib Dems for the last election said it could raise 1.7, so

:53:14. > :53:17.we have aired on the side of caution. We know the cynicism out

:53:18. > :53:20.there about people saying we will raise this much from that and

:53:21. > :53:24.putting together a package which looks like it does make sense. The

:53:25. > :53:32.NHS needs them where the money is coming from. So how will you raise

:53:33. > :53:39.this ?1.2 billion from the mansion tax? How will you identify homes

:53:40. > :53:44.worth more than ?2 million? We will use the figures which are there. The

:53:45. > :53:51.property values collected by the land Registry office. But they

:53:52. > :53:59.reflect the prices of when the price of the House was sold. There could

:54:00. > :54:14.be a House is sold in 1990 on the land Registry for ?1 million now

:54:15. > :54:16.worth ?5 million. How will you know? The valuation on properties is what

:54:17. > :54:19.we will use. There is no current valuation. How will you identify the

:54:20. > :54:26.homes which are over ?2 million? This is not my area. Your

:54:27. > :54:33.department. I have not worked out all the details. You are promising

:54:34. > :54:39.the doctors and nurses on the back of it. I and the Shadow Health

:54:40. > :54:42.Secretary. You are promising doctors and nurses more on the back of

:54:43. > :54:48.something you don't know how the money will be raised. The money is

:54:49. > :54:54.there, at least ?1.2 billion, and mansion tax is worth more than ?2

:54:55. > :54:58.million, and actually, raising far more on the most expensive

:54:59. > :55:03.properties. You're hoping for an extra ?1 billion on tax avoidance

:55:04. > :55:08.and that's going to the NHS fund. Last year, Ed Miliband said that

:55:09. > :55:14.that money from cracking down on tax avoidance, taking back ?150 million

:55:15. > :55:23.from the hedge fund would go on the bedroom tax. Now it's going on the

:55:24. > :55:26.NHS? I have got the document here. It's to prevent people avoiding tax

:55:27. > :55:31.on hedge funds and closing the Eurobonds loophole. Used by large

:55:32. > :55:40.companies to avoid paying their share of tax. Also talking about

:55:41. > :55:44.umbrella organisations. I know that. This is a carefully worked out plan.

:55:45. > :55:50.I know you are paid to pick holes in it but actually... No, I'm paid to

:55:51. > :55:54.get answers to let me try again. Last day, all of these things he

:55:55. > :56:01.said would go on the bedroom tax and now it's going on the NHS. You are

:56:02. > :56:06.spending it twice. Not at all full is you haven't mentioned the money

:56:07. > :56:11.from tobacco companies. That's nothing. A package put together

:56:12. > :56:17.which means the ordinary people of this country is facing tough times

:56:18. > :56:21.do not have to pay more for the NHS. We are asking those making money off

:56:22. > :56:25.the back of ill-health, who are not paying their fair share, avoiding

:56:26. > :56:31.tax, to transform the NHS into the service we wanted to be. You'll only

:56:32. > :56:40.get 150 million from that. It was part of the package. The NHS budget

:56:41. > :56:44.is ?113 billion. It faces a ?30 billion shortfall so ?150 million

:56:45. > :56:49.from tobacco companies is neither here nor there. We're not just

:56:50. > :56:56.throwing money into the black hole. We are planning this election

:56:57. > :57:03.campaign for a national health care service, bringing social care into

:57:04. > :57:06.the NHS for the first time. Why is this so important? Because it means

:57:07. > :57:10.we can spend a few times and supporting people properly in their

:57:11. > :57:14.own homes and not paying thousands of pounds with people in hospital

:57:15. > :57:19.unnecessarily. If you make this change that we are describing, that

:57:20. > :57:25.is the route to what is clinical and financial sustainability for the NHS

:57:26. > :57:28.in an ageing society. If it is so easy to pick up tax avoidance from

:57:29. > :57:33.those who can avoid it, why did you do that when you were in power? We

:57:34. > :57:38.did lots of things when we're in power to the NHS back on its feet.

:57:39. > :57:44.Read the blunder Labour were avoiding billions of pounds a year.

:57:45. > :57:52.Increased, people 's awareness, how corporations movement around to

:57:53. > :57:55.avoid obligations. People's understanding of those issues has

:57:56. > :57:58.increased and it's right that politicians respond to that. I don't

:57:59. > :58:02.think people would think that's the wrong thing to do. When we were in

:58:03. > :58:06.government we put more money into the NHS and Ed Miliband said today

:58:07. > :58:11.we're going to do that again to create world-class NHS we wanted to

:58:12. > :58:15.be. You are trusted on the NHS. The polls show you are way ahead of the

:58:16. > :58:19.Tories on the NHS. They show your way behind on the economy. Why

:58:20. > :58:25.wasn't more done to increase trust on the economy? That is what was

:58:26. > :58:29.done yesterday. Ed Balls put together a package which is about

:58:30. > :58:33.saying Labour will get the deficit down, balance the books, and maybe

:58:34. > :58:38.wouldn't have pleased everybody but he said we will take a tough

:58:39. > :58:41.decision on child benefit. Thank you for rushing here from the speech and

:58:42. > :58:47.we will see you tomorrow as well. Thanks for being with us. That's it

:58:48. > :58:51.for today. Thanks to our guests. It will be back with more highlights

:58:52. > :58:59.are today's conference tonight on BBC Two just after Newsnight. We

:59:00. > :59:03.will be back tomorrow with Daily Politics at midday. Join us then.

:59:04. > :59:06.From all of us in Manchester, bye bye.