:00:09. > :00:16.It is seven months to the election. The Tories are stuck behind Labour
:00:17. > :00:19.in the polls, under attack from UKIP. What can David Cameron fade
:00:20. > :00:54.today which will bring him victory next May? -- say today.
:00:55. > :01:04.Morning, folks. Welcome to the daily politics live from the final day of
:01:05. > :01:09.the Conservative Party Conference in Birmingham. It is the Prime Minister
:01:10. > :01:13.'s opportunity to reach out to be wider public to say why he deserves
:01:14. > :01:17.to stay in Ten Downing Street. Yesterday I asked the Health
:01:18. > :01:23.Secretary is the NHS would be ring fenced in the next Parliament. He
:01:24. > :01:26.would not tell me stop the Prime Minister will say health spending
:01:27. > :01:32.will rise each year, at least in line with inflation if the Tories
:01:33. > :01:37.win the election. I imagine he will not forget to mention the economy. I
:01:38. > :01:42.will be speaking to Michael Gove. He got around to applause yesterday for
:01:43. > :01:47.his work as Education Secretary. He is now the Conservative Chief Whip
:01:48. > :01:52.which means his main job is to spot and eliminate UKIP traitors. That
:01:53. > :01:56.should keep him busy! This week has not been a piece of cake for the
:01:57. > :02:05.Conservatives. Quentin Letts sketches it out for us. We had a
:02:06. > :02:08.defection to UKIP, we had a sex scandal. We journalists arrived
:02:09. > :02:21.expecting the Tories to be flattened and dejected. Far from it. All that
:02:22. > :02:33.in the next 2 hours of public sector broadcasting at its finest. We are
:02:34. > :02:45.not so much Made In Chelsea, more Made travel to what do you make of
:02:46. > :02:48.this conference? UKIP choreographed deflection to inflict maximum damage
:02:49. > :02:54.on David Cameron. There has been a lot more energy at this conference
:02:55. > :02:58.rather than at the Labour conference. They are furious with
:02:59. > :03:04.Mark Reckless for defecting to UKIP. They feel he has lied to them and
:03:05. > :03:14.betrayed them. There is not much love lost. Why are they more furious
:03:15. > :03:19.with Mark Reckless? They felt Douglas Carswell was a maverick. He
:03:20. > :03:24.did it in a more honourable way. He lied to the faces of colleagues and
:03:25. > :03:28.constituency neighbours. I agree that when we travelled up on
:03:29. > :03:32.Saturday, this conference should have been an absolute disaster. A
:03:33. > :03:39.resignation of an MP and a defection by Mark rests this. -- Mark
:03:40. > :03:41.reckless. I tell you what, at the risk of sounding like the
:03:42. > :03:46.Conservative Party press officer, the reason why it is going well,
:03:47. > :03:51.despite all the outside noises, they have a plan. The plan is, they would
:03:52. > :03:54.say, look, we have started to deal with a deficit. Going forward we
:03:55. > :04:00.have an economic plan to secure the future. They are sticking to that.
:04:01. > :04:04.They would say, we are occasionally going to be knocked off track.
:04:05. > :04:09.Because we have that plan of moving to the future, they would say that
:04:10. > :04:19.message is getting through. How does that sound? I think you have the
:04:20. > :04:27.job. It probably plays -- pays more. They are now going to cut the
:04:28. > :04:34.welfare benefits, not just of those who do not work but those who are in
:04:35. > :04:38.work. Is that sensible? It is interesting. Ministers are nervous
:04:39. > :04:47.about the gamble the Chancellor is taking. These are the people that
:04:48. > :04:53.Mrs Thatcher used to call the strivers. You'll could George
:04:54. > :05:00.Osborne could not accuse these voters as being skydivers. -- George
:05:01. > :05:04.Osborne could not. They have now been told their lives will get
:05:05. > :05:12.worse. It is a massive risk, and untested risk. You wonder with
:05:13. > :05:16.George Osborne where once again politics trumps everything. Why did
:05:17. > :05:19.he make the announcement about the extra welfare cuts. He is assessed
:05:20. > :05:27.with the idea of controlling the fiscal baseline. Labour did that in
:05:28. > :05:35.2001 and 2005 and they won. The fiscal baseline is essentially... It
:05:36. > :05:39.is essentially saying, here it is essentially the tax and spending
:05:40. > :05:43.framework going forward for the next Parliament. He believes the winner
:05:44. > :05:48.of the election controls that. The political challenge he wants to put
:05:49. > :05:52.to Labour is, we are going to have a surplus across the whole budget by
:05:53. > :05:59.2018. This is how we will achieve it. The danger is that he will end
:06:00. > :06:03.up hitting the working poor whilst allowing very nice pension pot
:06:04. > :06:09.arrangements and transfers down the generations for people who richer.
:06:10. > :06:15.This announcement we will get that he will once again ring fenced
:06:16. > :06:18.health spending. I guess he had no alternative to do that, particularly
:06:19. > :06:24.after Labour decided to make health spending and NHS the centre of their
:06:25. > :06:34.campaign. Yellow macadamia you need to neutralise this. If they talk
:06:35. > :06:42.about the deficit, Labour struggle. -- they need to neutralise this. The
:06:43. > :06:46.NHS is so difficult. There will be a million more people in the next
:06:47. > :06:53.decade over 70. Even in a ring fenced budget which is rising in
:06:54. > :06:59.line with inflation, the only way you can get back that Dan is to make
:07:00. > :07:04.it ring fenced. Labour are doing more than that. They are promising
:07:05. > :07:11.an extra ?2,000,000,000 a year on top of what is planned. What was
:07:12. > :07:16.important about the Labour announcement is that they had
:07:17. > :07:24.numbers. It is tangible. It is easy for voters to see and think, they do
:07:25. > :07:30.care. It was, we will have 10,000 more tractors and 50,000,000 bushels
:07:31. > :07:34.of wheat, as long as we are in for 10 years! Don't people 's eyes glaze
:07:35. > :07:42.over when politicians on the left and right make these are Mrs? Labour
:07:43. > :07:51.would say, we are going to fund this with taxes people would not argue
:07:52. > :07:55.with, which is people who have properties over 2 million. Will it
:07:56. > :08:00.really yield that sort of money? If it fails to yield that sort of
:08:01. > :08:08.money, there are obviously difficulties for them meeting this.
:08:09. > :08:12.Mr Cameron has not had the best of relationships with his activists and
:08:13. > :08:22.his backbenchers. Do they realise he is an activist? -- he is popular? it
:08:23. > :08:26.is telling the hall why he is conservative. They often doubt his
:08:27. > :08:35.beliefs. They do not know why he is a Tory. The fundamental challenge
:08:36. > :08:40.for David Cameron is that he is an emotional guy. He speaks from the
:08:41. > :08:47.heart. He does not seem to be able to connect to people. People do not
:08:48. > :08:52.know what he thinks. He was a cuddly, Guardian moderniser five or
:08:53. > :09:09.6 years ago. Then that changed. There is not 1 sense of direction.
:09:10. > :09:13.Thank you very much. Here I am in the conference hall. I am just
:09:14. > :09:21.outside, where David Cameron will give his speech. The conference hall
:09:22. > :09:26.began -- the conference began in less than auspicious circumstances.
:09:27. > :09:37.They have put a brave face on it. Here is our conference sketch. We
:09:38. > :09:41.had a defection to UKIP and a sex scandal. We expected the Tories to
:09:42. > :09:48.be flattened and dejected. Far from it. There are more people. They have
:09:49. > :09:55.been in a good mood. Andrew Davies showed them the way to go. He gave a
:09:56. > :10:00.speech worthy of Henry V. Henry V, he was Welsh as well. Never bow
:10:01. > :10:10.down, always go forward. Together, we are one hell of a force. We also
:10:11. > :10:16.heard from the fragrant, fruity, Liz truss, new Secretary of State for
:10:17. > :10:32.the environment. I, conference, rebelled. I became a Conservative.
:10:33. > :10:38.As a practical, Yorkshire girl, I believe that rather than talking, we
:10:39. > :10:41.should be about getting things done. The conference also heard from
:10:42. > :10:46.William Hague, the former leader of the party, giving his last speech to
:10:47. > :10:50.the conference. They have not ignored the UKIP threat or pretended
:10:51. > :10:56.it did not exist. They confronted it head-on. That is exactly what
:10:57. > :11:03.William Hague did. Let us be very frank. Let us say it like Yorkshire
:11:04. > :11:06.man. It is not only self-defeating and counter-productive, it is also
:11:07. > :11:11.hypocritical and dishonest to say you want to give people a choice on
:11:12. > :11:21.Europe and then help the election of a Labour government that would never
:11:22. > :11:24.give people a choice. Bitter? In his interview with Newsnight, the Prime
:11:25. > :11:29.Minister admitted he faces to France, the blue on blue with UKIP
:11:30. > :11:41.and the blue on red with Labour. Those 2 characters behind me. I say
:11:42. > :11:46.this to Ed Miliband correct your inability to put the country before
:11:47. > :11:49.your party means you are not fit to hold the office of Prime Minister of
:11:50. > :11:54.the United Kingdom. It has been noticeably serious conference. In
:11:55. > :11:58.the end it comes down to showmanship. No 1 does that better
:11:59. > :12:07.than the old panto dame himself, Boris Johnson. Amazingly, unusually
:12:08. > :12:14.loyal to David Cameron. Take it away, Boris. Is everybody here? Are
:12:15. > :12:19.we all here, by and large, proud conservatives? Are we proud of the
:12:20. > :12:24.oldest and most successful party in western democracy? Do we intend to
:12:25. > :12:28.fight for the next election under the Conservative banner and no
:12:29. > :12:33.other? Are there any defect is here? Are there any quitters or
:12:34. > :12:42.splitters? Anybody been feeling a bit yellow around the edges, like a
:12:43. > :12:46.keeper? Conference is not just about the politicians. It would not
:12:47. > :12:52.actually happen without the party faithful. Most of them have gone
:12:53. > :12:55.into the hall already, waiting for David Cameron to deliver his speech.
:12:56. > :13:02.I caught up with these 2 ladies. You are the party faithful. How long
:13:03. > :13:08.have you been coming to conference? 60 years plus. I was a young
:13:09. > :13:18.conservative and I have been a Conservative all my life. Are you
:13:19. > :13:24.excited about the speech? Yes. Everything is going very well. When
:13:25. > :13:28.I have gone to my hotel, I have thought what I have seen on
:13:29. > :13:39.television, they have been to a different conference than me. It is
:13:40. > :13:48.upbeat. Parties? It has been a very good atmosphere. What about those
:13:49. > :13:56.defections? We have just seen a chap with a banner. If somebody wants to
:13:57. > :14:01.defect, fine. It is a free country. What do you think David Cameron
:14:02. > :14:07.needs to say to unify the party? He is young. He has children. He has a
:14:08. > :14:16.good future, quite honestly. He is there to lead us. All good points. I
:14:17. > :14:25.will let you go in and take your seats. If we can get in! You can
:14:26. > :14:32.write to the BBC if you do not get to your seats. Really enjoyed. At
:14:33. > :14:40.the other end of the scale, is this your 1st conference? It is.
:14:41. > :14:42.Expectations? Sign it has been a brilliant atmosphere and I have
:14:43. > :15:02.really enjoyed it. Much better than I expected. It was nice to see how
:15:03. > :15:10.optimistic he was about industry. What about David Cameron? It cannot
:15:11. > :15:16.be just about jokes. He has two come across prime ministerial. He needs
:15:17. > :15:20.to say he is the best option. What does he need to say? What will win
:15:21. > :15:30.it for voters out there? I think probably the economy. He has shown
:15:31. > :15:37.that the Lib Dems cannot deliver. A Conservative government can do a lot
:15:38. > :15:45.more. The voters will respond. Who is a threat? UKIP Labour? UKIP. They
:15:46. > :15:50.are nicking our votes. It is quite worrying. I think when it comes to
:15:51. > :15:58.the election, I think, I hope their vote will die away. One word for
:15:59. > :16:01.today 's speech? What do think it needs to be? Fine macro confident.
:16:02. > :16:11.Prime ministerial. That is it from outside the hall and
:16:12. > :16:20.we will bring you some post-match analysis after the speech. Andrew.
:16:21. > :16:27.Thanks, Jo Co. Welcome to the daily politics Special. You have now got
:16:28. > :16:34.the most influential right-wing politician in the country, Nigel
:16:35. > :16:40.Farage. A poll came out this week saying he is in the 100 most
:16:41. > :16:44.influential right-wingers. As far as we're concerned as the Conservative
:16:45. > :16:49.Party, we have a bigger job to do, which is governing the country and
:16:50. > :16:58.winning the next general election and taking the country forward with
:16:59. > :17:02.our long-term economic plan. The reality is, we are a party that is
:17:03. > :17:06.very focused in terms of what we're doing and what needs to be done to
:17:07. > :17:13.address the big problems this country faces. This isn't about...
:17:14. > :17:18.Look, I am not here to say I disagree with UKIP. Because you
:17:19. > :17:24.don't? Only the Conservative Party can deliver the change this country
:17:25. > :17:27.needs, whether it is on Europe, immigration, the economy, the issues
:17:28. > :17:34.the members of the public feel strongly about. If David Cameron
:17:35. > :17:38.doesn't give details of the negotiations in his plan, are you
:17:39. > :17:45.prepared to leave? I have a view that we have to fight for change
:17:46. > :17:50.within. But if you lose, would you vote to leave? Europe as it stands
:17:51. > :17:54.today is not working. There is a broad recognition of that is not
:17:55. > :17:58.just in this country but across EU states as well. We have to fight to
:17:59. > :18:02.bring about the change, not just for the UK but actually for other
:18:03. > :18:06.European countries as well. I understand the case for change. What
:18:07. > :18:12.I'm saying is, if you don't get that change, will you come out? I am an
:18:13. > :18:19.optimist, Andrew, so we have to fight for change. We have to fight
:18:20. > :18:24.Britain's corner. It is hypothetical. We are not there yet.
:18:25. > :18:28.You have a statement today that he will continue to ring-fence the NHS,
:18:29. > :18:32.but that is the least you can do, isn't it? That simply means that
:18:33. > :18:37.keeps pace with inflation. You need to do more than that, don't you? No.
:18:38. > :18:42.We have set the trend and we have been very clear in funding for the
:18:43. > :18:48.NHS. ?12 billion over this Parliament. We have established the
:18:49. > :18:51.Cancer Drugs Fund. And the Prime Minister has alluded to this in his
:18:52. > :18:54.remarks today. I know we are before his speech but it is about the value
:18:55. > :18:58.of the NHS and the fact that it is there for everybody, and we have to
:18:59. > :19:03.continue to invest in the NHS, and your previous panellist said this as
:19:04. > :19:07.well. We are getting older, we are living longer... I get all that but
:19:08. > :19:13.that is all boilerplate. The point is that you have already ring-fenced
:19:14. > :19:17.the NHS and there is a massive black hole in the NHS, even with
:19:18. > :19:23.ring-fencing now. Acute hospitals are heading for a ?1 billion
:19:24. > :19:27.deficit, so why does more ring-fencing really solve the
:19:28. > :19:31.problem? Well, it does of the problem if you spend the money in
:19:32. > :19:35.the right way. Don't forget, we have actually change the NHS and move
:19:36. > :19:40.money from the backroom going to the front line. We have recruited more
:19:41. > :19:44.doctors, more nurses and I've mentioned the Cancer Drugs Fund as
:19:45. > :19:49.well. But you have all those targets? Well, we have new health
:19:50. > :19:53.centres across the country and we have the GP hours. These are the
:19:54. > :19:59.front line facilities the public expect at their local level and
:20:00. > :20:04.access to primary care is vital. If you ring-fence it and keep it rising
:20:05. > :20:08.in pace with inflation, given that NHS inflation is much higher than
:20:09. > :20:13.the CPI measure of inflation, the average, it is basically a cut and
:20:14. > :20:17.you will continue to run deficits and the NHS will continue to be
:20:18. > :20:22.underfunded. It is certainly not the case that we are cutting the NHS. We
:20:23. > :20:26.are a government that has consistently invested in the NHS. In
:20:27. > :20:31.real terms as well we are seeing a spending increase and money... Money
:20:32. > :20:37.has gone from the back room into the front line. So why is there a ?1
:20:38. > :20:40.billion deficit in acute hospitals? These deficits have not been created
:20:41. > :20:44.overnight. If you look at the running and the PFI contract, look
:20:45. > :20:47.at the way they have been set up over the last decade. That is why
:20:48. > :20:52.they have these deficits. And we have putting -- been putting our
:20:53. > :20:56.focus on bringing the focus from the back room to the front line and,
:20:57. > :21:02.most importantly, putting patients first. So why is it said that we are
:21:03. > :21:08.heading for an annual deficit of ?5 billion a year in the NHS? 30
:21:09. > :21:15.billion by the end of Parliament? Well, as nobody explained, we had
:21:16. > :21:19.deficits before in the way that the NHS was invested in and also the
:21:20. > :21:23.contracts, GP contracts and hospital contracts as well. It has not been a
:21:24. > :21:27.rosy history. We are now tackling some of those endemic problems with
:21:28. > :21:31.the structure of the NHS and taking money from the back room into the
:21:32. > :21:36.front line to provide real services that will transform people's lives
:21:37. > :21:40.at local community levels. So why are you missing your five major
:21:41. > :21:46.targets on waiting times? This is about demand. We are ageing. The
:21:47. > :21:50.demand in the NHS is expanding... We are spending money. It is wrong to
:21:51. > :21:54.say we aren't spending enough. The money is there. It is always about
:21:55. > :21:59.how the money is being used in the NHS. We have Clinical Commissioning
:22:00. > :22:03.Groups and it is for them to make the right strategic decisions about
:22:04. > :22:05.how the money is allocated from central government to local
:22:06. > :22:09.government to their communities, and it is vital that money is spent on
:22:10. > :22:19.the front line putting patients first. How much deeper will the cuts
:22:20. > :22:27.in other departments now have to be if you ring-fencing on health? I
:22:28. > :22:31.cannot speculate on cuts. We are making difficult decisions and what
:22:32. > :22:34.we have heard this week through all speakers at our Conference, there is
:22:35. > :22:38.no denying that times have been tough. We are making difficult
:22:39. > :22:42.decisions. We have spoken about the economy this week as well. We have
:22:43. > :22:46.to get the deficit down. We have big issues still when it comes to public
:22:47. > :22:51.finances, so there will be departmental cuts at some stage,
:22:52. > :22:57.absolutely. According to The Times this morning, with the ring-fencing
:22:58. > :23:00.of the NHS budget, there will have to be real-time cuts of more than
:23:01. > :23:04.20% across all other departments in this Parliament. That is not a
:23:05. > :23:09.figure I am familiar with and they are speculating on that. I did read
:23:10. > :23:13.that. You say you have taken hard decisions but the fact is, if you
:23:14. > :23:17.win again, there will be massive cuts in other departments in the
:23:18. > :23:22.next five years, right? Because most of the deficit is still there. The
:23:23. > :23:27.job is not yet done. There is more to do. The job is not yet on when it
:23:28. > :23:31.comes to securing the financial base of this country. We have been facing
:23:32. > :23:34.tough choices are making tough decisions and we recognise times
:23:35. > :23:38.have been tough for people across the country as well. If that is
:23:39. > :23:42.true, why are you making lower paid people suffer even more by freezing
:23:43. > :23:48.welfare benefits? Look, that there is way too reduce the welfare bill,
:23:49. > :23:53.and it is growing and growing, we have to make sure benefits are not
:23:54. > :23:59.rising faster than wages. -- way to produce. As I said, there is no
:24:00. > :24:03.denying this is a difficult position. We recognise people have
:24:04. > :24:08.had a very difficult time over the last four years... You are about to
:24:09. > :24:13.make it more difficult? Well, Iain Duncan Smith two days ago announced
:24:14. > :24:16.Universal Credit will roll out next year and that will take away the
:24:17. > :24:20.complexity within the benefits system. Tax credits, working tax
:24:21. > :24:25.credits, all these benefits people find difficult to access, we are now
:24:26. > :24:28.rolling them into one and that will help families access benefits in a
:24:29. > :24:34.much easier way which didn't exist before. But if you are a lower paid
:24:35. > :24:39.worker, the reason you get a welfare top up is because your pay doesn't
:24:40. > :24:43.come to very much, so you get extra in-work benefits. Your pay hasn't
:24:44. > :24:48.been rising in real terms now for five or ten years. You are now going
:24:49. > :24:53.to hit the welfare top up that they get as well. You're going to cut
:24:54. > :24:56.that in real terms, too, so they pay is not rising and their benefits are
:24:57. > :25:01.not rising. They are in work and it is a double whammy for the lowest
:25:02. > :25:05.paid in this country. What have you got against them? I forget is wrong
:25:06. > :25:13.to say we are against hard-working people. We for them. -- I think it
:25:14. > :25:19.is wrong to say. Why are you cutting the welfare? These are not your
:25:20. > :25:24.famous skivers. These are people who are actually going out to work. Many
:25:25. > :25:28.of them will be cleaning this building here. They have not had a
:25:29. > :25:33.real pay rise in living memory and now you are going to cut their
:25:34. > :25:38.welfare benefits. Why is that... I thought we were all in this
:25:39. > :25:43.together. Well, actually we are, and these people will also benefit from
:25:44. > :25:46.the increase in the personal allowance as well. Rather think you
:25:47. > :25:52.can then depend on a welfare system that is complicated... -- rather
:25:53. > :25:56.than keeping them. We're trying to streamline the system and make it
:25:57. > :26:01.much more efficient and effective. Well, you are streamlining it by
:26:02. > :26:05.cutting their welfare. Well, Universal Credit is a very good way
:26:06. > :26:12.we are providing support for them. That was out April next year. When
:26:13. > :26:19.will everybody get it? April 2016. The roll-out starts next year. Are
:26:20. > :26:22.you sure about that? I've been told that is absolutely true. And there
:26:23. > :26:26.is more employers could do to support... Putting the minimum wage
:26:27. > :26:32.up by a small amount is not keeping pace with inflation. It is an
:26:33. > :26:38.important increase and one we should welcome. With the deficit, what
:26:39. > :26:42.sacrifice are you making? We are all working across government to make
:26:43. > :26:49.sure we're not spending money in an irresponsible way. It is about
:26:50. > :26:54.making tough decisions. But you are not having your pay cut? I work hard
:26:55. > :27:00.like everybody else. We'll go out to work and work hard. And there are
:27:01. > :27:06.sacrifices we all make. I am trying to work out what sacrifice you are
:27:07. > :27:15.making. I know the sacrifices other people making but I'm trying to work
:27:16. > :27:23.out what are doing? Well, we all make sacrifices. Thank you very
:27:24. > :27:29.much. And I like the jacket. It is actually that colour! Thank you. Now
:27:30. > :27:39.it is time to look at the highs and lows of the Conservative year.
:27:40. > :27:45.On the day we can see there are 1 million more people in work in our
:27:46. > :27:51.country, that is 1 million reasons to stick to the economic plan we
:27:52. > :27:54.have. It is one thing for people to come and take up a job offer but
:27:55. > :27:59.actually the freedom to claim benefits, that is not a freedom we
:28:00. > :28:11.should recognise. The committee has recommended that I
:28:12. > :28:15.apologise to the House for my attitude to the commission's
:28:16. > :28:29.inquiries, and I of course unreservedly apologise.
:28:30. > :28:36.I accepted his assurances, I gave him a job, it was a second chance.
:28:37. > :28:44.It turns out to be a bad decision and I'm extremely sorry about that.
:28:45. > :28:58.This is a bad day for Europe. I'm today leaving the Conservative
:28:59. > :29:02.Party and joining UKIP. Today I'm leaving the Conservative Party...
:29:03. > :29:09.CHEERING I've got to find a seat now. I think
:29:10. > :29:12.people can feel like it's a bit like a general election. That you make a
:29:13. > :29:19.decision and five years later you can make another decision if you are
:29:20. > :29:22.fed up with the Tories. Just as the people of Scotland will
:29:23. > :29:26.have more power over their affairs, so it follows that the people of
:29:27. > :29:31.England, Wales and Northern Ireland must have a bigger say over theirs.
:29:32. > :29:35.There is no more serious an issue than asking our armed Forces to put
:29:36. > :29:38.themselves in harm's way to protect our country. And I want to set out
:29:39. > :29:46.today why I believe that is necessary.
:29:47. > :29:54.And we're joined now by viewers from the BBC News channel. You are
:29:55. > :29:57.watching this BBC Two Daily Politics special live from the Conservative
:29:58. > :30:01.Conference in Birmingham. David Cameron is about to give his final
:30:02. > :30:05.speech to the Tory faithful before next year's general election. We
:30:06. > :30:10.expect him to be on centre stage in about ten minutes time. Though the
:30:11. > :30:18.way things go, they tend to run late. Anyway, we have plenty to talk
:30:19. > :30:34.about. That's get the thoughts, or as Homer Simpson once said, the
:30:35. > :30:38.thought of these guys. So, they have released this they went about
:30:39. > :30:46.ring-fencing the NHS, clearly a response to Labour who are putting
:30:47. > :30:51.the NHS is centre stage. Of course they are going to do it and I don't
:30:52. > :30:56.think it is a response to Labour in the sense that they were going to
:30:57. > :30:59.talk about it sometime, and Labour will say that their so-called levy
:31:00. > :31:02.or mansion tax will be on top of what the Tories are doing. That
:31:03. > :31:07.won't be the centrepiece of this speech. There is clear you going to
:31:08. > :31:10.be a policy centrepiece of this. Interestingly, behind-the-scenes, I
:31:11. > :31:16.am told the Cameron team have argued about whether he used this speech
:31:17. > :31:21.for arguments and themes and narrative and joined it up and found
:31:22. > :31:27.it is a bit unsubstantial. I suspect it is a tap 's measure -- tax
:31:28. > :31:33.measure and having happy slap round the face from George Osborne, the
:31:34. > :31:37.Prime Minister wants to go back to the sense that by the time you get
:31:38. > :31:42.to the election after this election, things will be better, and one way
:31:43. > :31:49.of doing that is tax. I genuinely have no idea what the policy is but
:31:50. > :31:53.here are two possibilities. Firstly it is that they will do what the Lib
:31:54. > :31:57.Dems have done and continue to raise the amount you can earn before you
:31:58. > :32:00.pay any income tax. The logic is the personal allowance, take it up to
:32:01. > :32:05.the level of the minimum wage so nobody on the minimum wage pays any.
:32:06. > :32:08.And more intriguing as a possibility, interestingly a more
:32:09. > :32:26.progressive possibility, is that you deal with national insurers.
:32:27. > :32:37.It is a pot of money that goes into the Treasury. The poor pay more of
:32:38. > :32:44.it. You start to pay that earlier than income tax. It would be
:32:45. > :32:47.politically bold to raise the level because you are having to educate
:32:48. > :32:56.people about how the system works. It may be too complicated for a
:32:57. > :33:00.pre-election conference. The problem with any announcement based speech,
:33:01. > :33:05.you have to find the money. It cuts across the message that there is not
:33:06. > :33:09.any. David Cameron has too tried to get the election message right.
:33:10. > :33:15.Britain is on the right track. He needs to look Prime Minister Ariel
:33:16. > :33:20.and make sure that he takes Labour on on the economy, which is where
:33:21. > :33:26.they are weakest. They are his 2 big targets. The announcements are in
:33:27. > :33:30.service to that. People do not really pay attention to them. They
:33:31. > :33:33.have to get the impression that this Prime Minister is the Prime Minister
:33:34. > :33:45.and the party knows what it is doing. That is what he will be
:33:46. > :33:47.trying to convey. I think the individual measure about freezing in
:33:48. > :33:54.work benefits that some of the lowest paid people in the country
:33:55. > :33:57.faced may well be the right measure, remember that expression George
:33:58. > :34:03.Osborne and David Cameron used to use, we are all in this together? It
:34:04. > :34:08.has not felt like that this week. UKIP is a phenomenon of people who
:34:09. > :34:14.are not doing well from globalisation, who feel the economy
:34:15. > :34:15.is no longer working for them. The Conservatives, every successful
:34:16. > :34:20.Conservative leader, Margaret Thatcher in particular, she appealed
:34:21. > :34:24.to that kind of voter. She did think the Tories were the party of the
:34:25. > :34:29.rich. She saw the changes that John Major was making to be Conservative
:34:30. > :34:32.party, a party that finally understood them. That is what I
:34:33. > :34:37.think David Cameron has to do. He has two show awareness in his speech
:34:38. > :34:41.that he has lost that section of the community. We have not heard
:34:42. > :34:45.anything of that this week. It is getting too late to put that right.
:34:46. > :34:52.The most important opportunity is about to come. I do not doubt that
:34:53. > :34:56.you are right. The measures that George Osborne put down our
:34:57. > :34:59.difficult. What he feels is the main thing you have when you are
:35:00. > :35:05.Chancellor of the extent is the ability to set the baseline for an
:35:06. > :35:08.election. If you laid down a very tough baseline, the problem for UKIP
:35:09. > :35:19.and the Labour Party is, what will they do that is different for that
:35:20. > :35:22.-- from that? Often their changes will look riskier than the
:35:23. > :35:27.Government in power. I'm sure that is part of the thinking. The truth
:35:28. > :35:35.is, it would be very difficult whoever is elected. The thing is who
:35:36. > :35:39.you get the money from. Everyone must feel we are in this together.
:35:40. > :35:42.Richard pensioners, high earners, are not really being asked to make a
:35:43. > :35:51.contribution in the way the low-paid. I worry that we are using
:35:52. > :35:59.money to pay down the deficit in the way we are. The political difficulty
:36:00. > :36:05.you raise is correct. If you look at any grass at what happened in the
:36:06. > :36:10.last five years, the most well-off have paid the biggest amount. The
:36:11. > :36:13.squeezed middle have been the people who have actually seen our share
:36:14. > :36:28.increase, even though it has been very difficult for the least well
:36:29. > :36:31.off. It is very friendly! What is interesting about it, David Cameron
:36:32. > :36:36.has struggled to rediscover what his old mate, Steve Hilton, told him to
:36:37. > :36:42.do, which is sunshine. That sense that he gave you a sense about
:36:43. > :36:50.sunshine. The thing that President Reagan had so brilliantly. That is
:36:51. > :36:58.what Boris Johnson has. Events have not helped. What the idea of these
:36:59. > :37:02.various announcements, many of which were buried by an affection with
:37:03. > :37:07.helping people to buy their homes, tax-free inheritance of pensions.
:37:08. > :37:13.They are hoping to say, there is something in this for you. It is not
:37:14. > :37:18.about the Tories they hope being seen as a plumber who comes to fix
:37:19. > :37:22.the blocked up blue. They want to say the House will smell nice and it
:37:23. > :37:30.will look good and they have a few plans for you in the future. This
:37:31. > :37:35.has been the Tory problem ever since Winston Churchill won the Second
:37:36. > :37:39.World War and lost the peace in the 19th 45 general election. The Tories
:37:40. > :37:50.have been bad at painting a picture at the kind of Britain they want to
:37:51. > :37:53.govern and create. It is important not to lose the sense that people
:37:54. > :37:58.have that this is a risky and difficult time and they need to
:37:59. > :38:03.choose security. This is the reason for the secure in the future. They
:38:04. > :38:08.need to choose security over risky change. You have a very difficult
:38:09. > :38:11.balance. You need to give people a sense of hope and a sense they will
:38:12. > :38:16.gain out of all of theirs and all of this hard work will be shared by
:38:17. > :38:22.them and not just taken by the elite and rich people. You have to say to
:38:23. > :38:27.people the situation is very difficult. At this moment you cannot
:38:28. > :38:33.trust Labour in particular with this. You have to stress risk but
:38:34. > :38:39.also say in the distance there is an opportunity for something. Why would
:38:40. > :38:45.you think this party is on your side? You have not had a real pay
:38:46. > :38:49.rise for ages. Now you are going to cut welfare benefits in real terms.
:38:50. > :38:53.These are people getting up early in the morning, going to work for a
:38:54. > :38:57.pittance, they are not seen their pay go up. Now you're going to take
:38:58. > :39:04.away a chunk of that in work benefits. Why would you think this
:39:05. > :39:08.conference is on your side? It is an analysis that we should expect
:39:09. > :39:11.something on tax. There will be an attempt to suggest working people
:39:12. > :39:16.would benefit out of a Conservative government. The answer to your
:39:17. > :39:20.question is, the Conservative party is the party of economic growth and
:39:21. > :39:24.dealing with competitive challenge making sure the country is not left
:39:25. > :39:28.behind while the rest of the world grows. The Conservative party has
:39:29. > :39:33.been successful in dealing with an economic crisis and putting the
:39:34. > :39:36.country back on track. There are any number of political difficulties
:39:37. > :39:41.which we are discussing with that message. Getting this balance
:39:42. > :39:44.between realism and optimism is the most tricky bit. Nevertheless, the
:39:45. > :39:50.message about what you do for working people is not very
:39:51. > :39:55.difficult. What is the Conservative election strategy going to be?
:39:56. > :40:01.Labour is two, three, four points ahead. UKIP is in double figures in
:40:02. > :40:06.the polls. The right is divided. You need for an overall majority about
:40:07. > :40:16.39%, maybe 40%. Are you ever going to get that? I have no idea. The
:40:17. > :40:21.next person who asked me who will win the next general election, I
:40:22. > :40:29.will hit. It is asked all the time by people. The Conservatives have to
:40:30. > :40:38.offer reassurance to lower income people. They need to pass some of
:40:39. > :40:41.the burden onto employers. Not huge rises but a sense the Conservatives
:40:42. > :40:50.understand how hard it is to make ends meet at the moment. What they
:40:51. > :40:54.learned from Scotland is that when the stakes are incredibly high, you
:40:55. > :40:59.get a good turnout. When the stakes are high, you can persuade people to
:41:00. > :41:03.make a really serious choice. What they are betting on is the 2 things
:41:04. > :41:07.that are in their favour and have since this parliament began is that
:41:08. > :41:14.Cameron is way ahead of Ed Miliband in terms of leadership in terms of
:41:15. > :41:20.opinion polls and the Tories are ahead of Labour in economic
:41:21. > :41:25.confidence. I think they are banking on a 1992 effect, a last-minute
:41:26. > :41:30.effect, which constantly says to the country, this choice you are about
:41:31. > :41:36.to take really matters. This is a big one! Now decide, do you want him
:41:37. > :41:40.or him? Do you want economic security or the risk they claim that
:41:41. > :41:47.Labour will be? They constantly have to channel... What is interesting
:41:48. > :41:51.is, giving you have just had to Tory MPs defecting, you have not had what
:41:52. > :41:57.you saw in the 90s and the 80s, which is a panic about the Tories
:41:58. > :42:02.have a new immigration policy, let's have a new line on Europe. You would
:42:03. > :42:08.have predicted that last Sunday. On the fringes you would have had
:42:09. > :42:12.Redwood, David Davis and Liam Fox saying, tether strategy up and start
:42:13. > :42:19.again. They have not. They think even the Tory right is thinking, the
:42:20. > :42:24.only thing that will win them is the central choice. Can a claim of
:42:25. > :42:28.economic confidence and a claim of a growing economy, that things are
:42:29. > :42:35.getting better, can that claim get you to a percentage in the polls
:42:36. > :42:41.where you win an overall majority? Winning an overall majority is
:42:42. > :42:45.difficult. It is not impossible but it is difficult. I do think you can
:42:46. > :42:52.become the largest party and take office. I am just trying to get a
:42:53. > :42:56.piece of analysis. They want to have a majority. What they will be trying
:42:57. > :43:00.to do is increase the salience of the 2 issues they talked about,
:43:01. > :43:08.economic confidence in Ed Miliband and salience is important. If you
:43:09. > :43:13.talk about, is America on track under George Bush? People are
:43:14. > :43:18.reminded about George Bush. What they will try to do is say to
:43:19. > :43:22.people, would Britain be better off under Ed Miliband? They are going to
:43:23. > :43:27.try to make sure they push that issue. What does account for the
:43:28. > :43:32.confidence is a widespread feeling in the party and I think a lot of
:43:33. > :43:37.media people can question that Ed Miliband had a very poor week. He
:43:38. > :43:44.did illustrate he is very vulnerable to the attack about being Prime
:43:45. > :43:50.Minister. To get an overall majority they have to increase their share of
:43:51. > :43:58.the vote. Who was the last sitting prime minister to do that? Was it
:43:59. > :44:05.Harold Wilson? I do not know. Anthony Eden in 1955. That is the
:44:06. > :44:10.mountain you have to climb. We are seeing 1 political party collapse,
:44:11. > :44:13.the Liberal Democrats. We are seeing 1 new party emerge. We are seeing
:44:14. > :44:19.potentially Labour collapse in Scotland. They face a very serious
:44:20. > :44:25.challenge from the SNP. Crucially, it is not just because of UKIP. It
:44:26. > :44:32.is UKIP and the SNP. Commentators are suggesting that SNP could make
:44:33. > :44:36.massive gains. That is where they did well in the referendum, in the
:44:37. > :44:43.Central Belt, in Glasgow and so on. The greens are coming up fast. 6% in
:44:44. > :44:46.the last polls and talk of doing well in Brighton, Norwich and
:44:47. > :44:51.Bristol. Some of our benchmark for how you win an election will be
:44:52. > :44:55.wrong. People who know the Scottish electoral system better than the UK
:44:56. > :45:01.one, where it has been a full party contest for a very long time, albeit
:45:02. > :45:03.with the Tories way down force, the predictability of 4 parties
:45:04. > :45:09.competing in some areas compared with 3 means you can have really
:45:10. > :45:16.quite strange results emerging. The parties are all on about low 30s
:45:17. > :45:22.with 1 creeping over the edge. It is unpredictable. What is the strategy
:45:23. > :45:26.for handling UKIP? What the Prime Minister needs to do is concentrate
:45:27. > :45:29.on the fight against Labour and try to get momentum in that fight, in
:45:30. > :45:33.the hope of pulling people towards him. You may say that does not work
:45:34. > :45:38.completely. The truth is, just because there is a problem does not
:45:39. > :45:45.mean there is a solution. It is hard to solve the problem with UKIP but
:45:46. > :45:48.the best attempt at a solution, as far as I am concerned, is to go off
:45:49. > :45:52.on the right track and increase the saliency of the economy and Ed
:45:53. > :45:55.Miliband, focus on the battle between Ed Miliband and David
:45:56. > :46:01.Cameron. I do not think that moving away from centre and chasing after
:46:02. > :46:10.those votes with UKIP will win. Beat Mark Reckless in Rochester and
:46:11. > :46:14.Strood as well. It is about populism and seriousness. They are offering
:46:15. > :46:18.popular solution to big problems. If the Tories looked like they are the
:46:19. > :46:23.grown-ups, that is the best place for them to be. Talking about the
:46:24. > :46:28.deficit as George Osborne did, saying he is being honest. It is not
:46:29. > :46:30.balanced. At least he is being direct and honest. The tough party,
:46:31. > :46:44.making tough decisions. Were you tempted when you are in
:46:45. > :46:50.Doncaster? No. Did they not dangle it in front of you? No! It is a
:46:51. > :46:55.great tragedy. I have been coming to these conferences for 20 years and
:46:56. > :46:59.lots of these people used to be at the Tory Conference, and this
:47:00. > :47:05.historic split on the right side of politics is the great sadness.
:47:06. > :47:09.Right, here is the Prime Minister now. He enters this massive
:47:10. > :47:13.auditorium in Birmingham and takes the applause of his party faithful.
:47:14. > :47:20.He is going to use a podium and I don't think he has memorised the
:47:21. > :47:26.speech he is going to -- memorised the speech, so he will read from an
:47:27. > :47:31.autocue. I think you will speak for about an hour, so let's go straight
:47:32. > :47:38.in to hear David Cameron address the Tory Conference of 2014. I am so
:47:39. > :47:39.proud to stand here today as Prime Minister of four nations in one
:47:40. > :47:50.United Kingdom. APPLAUSE
:47:51. > :47:57.I was with clear about why we called that referendum. Dock the fight and
:47:58. > :48:03.our union could have been taken apart bit by bit. Take it on and we
:48:04. > :48:07.have the chance to settle the question. This party has always
:48:08. > :48:15.confronted the big issues for the sake of our country. And now
:48:16. > :48:19.England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland - we are one people in one
:48:20. > :48:31.union and everyone here can be proud of that.
:48:32. > :48:40.And I think we can all agree that during that campaign, a new star, a
:48:41. > :48:44.new Conservative store, was born. Someone who is going to take our
:48:45. > :48:47.message to every corner of Scotland. Our very own Ruth Davies. --
:48:48. > :49:07.Conservative start. The lead up to that referendum was
:49:08. > :49:16.the most nerve wracking week of my life. But I can tell you the best
:49:17. > :49:25.moment of my year. It was June the 6th, the 70th anniversary of D-Day.
:49:26. > :49:30.Sam and I were in France with my constituent Patrick Churchill. No
:49:31. > :49:36.relation to the great man but a great man himself. Patrick is 91
:49:37. > :49:41.years old. And 70 years ago, she was there fighting fascism, helping to
:49:42. > :49:45.liberate that town. -- he was there. And I will never forget seeing the
:49:46. > :49:49.tears in his eyes as he talked about the comrades he had left behind but
:49:50. > :49:54.also the pride they all felt in the job that they had done. As we walked
:49:55. > :49:59.along the streets, he pointed out where he had driven his tank, and
:50:00. > :50:05.all along the roadside, there were French children waving flags. Union
:50:06. > :50:11.Jacks. The grandchildren of the people he had liberated. Patrick is
:50:12. > :50:13.here today with his wife, and I know like me you will want to give them
:50:14. > :50:20.the warmest Conservative welcome. APPLAUSE
:50:21. > :50:58.. When people have seen our flag in
:50:59. > :51:02.some of the most desperate times in history, they have known what it
:51:03. > :51:07.stands for. Freedom. Just is. Standing up for what is right. They
:51:08. > :51:13.have known that this isn't just any old country. This is a special
:51:14. > :51:19.country. -- justice. June the six this summer, Normandy. I was so
:51:20. > :51:24.proud of Great Britain that day. And here today, I want to set out how in
:51:25. > :51:29.this generation we can build a country whose future we can all be
:51:30. > :51:34.proud of. How we can secure a better future for all. How we can build a
:51:35. > :51:40.Briton that everyone is proud to call home. -- a Great Britain. The
:51:41. > :51:45.heirs to those who fought on the beaches of Normandy are those
:51:46. > :51:51.fighting in Afghanistan today. For 13 years, young men and women have
:51:52. > :51:56.been serving our country there. This year, the last of our combat troops
:51:57. > :51:59.come home. And I know that everyone here will want to show how grateful
:52:00. > :52:16.and how proud we are of everyone who served.
:52:17. > :52:24.But the end of the Afghan mission does not mean the end of the threat.
:52:25. > :52:29.The threat is Islamist extremist terrorism. And it has found a new
:52:30. > :52:39.hellish crucible with ISIL in Iraq and Syria. These people, they are
:52:40. > :52:42.evil. Pure and simple. They kill children, raped women, threatened
:52:43. > :52:48.non-believers with genocide, the head journalists and aid workers. --
:52:49. > :52:53.be head. Now, some people think we can opt out of this. We can't. As I
:52:54. > :52:57.speak, British servicemen and women are flying in the skies over Iraq.
:52:58. > :53:03.We saw action yesterday. And there will be troops on the front line up
:53:04. > :53:08.they will be Iraqis, Kurds and Syrians fighting for the safe and
:53:09. > :53:11.democratic future that they deserve. We are acting in partnership with a
:53:12. > :53:18.range of countries including those from the region, because let us be
:53:19. > :53:23.clear - there is no walk on by option. Unless we deal with ISIL,
:53:24. > :53:29.they will deal with us, bringing terror and murder to our streets.
:53:30. > :53:37.And, as always with this party, we will do whatever it takes to keep
:53:38. > :53:41.our country safe. And to those... To those who have had all the
:53:42. > :53:47.advantages of being brought up in Great Britain but who want to go and
:53:48. > :53:52.fight for ISIL, let me say this. If you try and travelled to Syria or
:53:53. > :53:57.Iraq, we will use everything at our disposal to stop you. Taking away
:53:58. > :54:00.your passport, prosecuting, convicting, imprisonment. And even
:54:01. > :54:05.if you are there already, we may prevent you from coming back. You
:54:06. > :54:07.have declared your allegiance. You are an enemy of the UK and you
:54:08. > :54:30.should expect to be treated as such. When it comes to keeping Britain
:54:31. > :54:36.safe, I have had one man by my side for the last four years. We all
:54:37. > :54:41.remember those lyrical tones in a hall like this all those years ago.
:54:42. > :54:57.Some of you won't be here in 30 years time. All right! All right, I
:54:58. > :55:00.won't give up the day job! Now, when he was a teenager, he didn't only
:55:01. > :55:07.address the Tory Party Conference, he read Hansard in bed and had a
:55:08. > :55:11.record collection that apparently consisted of one album by dire
:55:12. > :55:20.Straits and dozens of speeches by Winston Churchill. His dad said he
:55:21. > :55:25.was just a normal, happy boy! Well, all I can say is this. That boy
:55:26. > :55:28.became an amazing parliamentarian, a brilliant Foreign Secretary, our
:55:29. > :55:30.greatest living Yorkshireman and someone to whom I owe an enormous
:55:31. > :56:01.debt of gratitude. William Hague! Now, William, there is one more task
:56:02. > :56:05.I want you to carry out. Bringing fairness to our Constitution. During
:56:06. > :56:08.that referendum campaign, we made a valve to the Scottish people that
:56:09. > :56:16.they will get more powers and we will keep our foul. -- our promise.
:56:17. > :56:19.But here is my promise to the people of England, Wales and Northern
:56:20. > :56:24.Ireland. I know the system is unfair. I know that you are asking,
:56:25. > :56:28.if Scotland can vote separately on things like tax and spending and
:56:29. > :56:33.welfare, why can't England, Wales and Northern Ireland do the same?
:56:34. > :56:38.And I know you want this answered. So this is my promise. English votes
:56:39. > :56:54.for English laws. The Conservatives will deliver it.
:56:55. > :57:01.Now, we have delivered a lot these past four years. But we have had to
:57:02. > :57:05.do it all in a coalition government. And, believe me,
:57:06. > :57:10.coalition was not what I wanted to do, it is what I had to do, and I
:57:11. > :57:19.know not just what I want next but what the country needs next. I want
:57:20. > :57:23.to be back here in October 2015 delivering Conservative policies
:57:24. > :57:23.based on Conservative values, leading a majority Conservative
:57:24. > :57:42.government. So where do we want to take our
:57:43. > :57:47.country? Where do I want to take our country? During these four years, I
:57:48. > :57:54.hope that the British people have come to know me a little. I'm not a
:57:55. > :57:58.comp located man. I believe in some simple things. -- comp located.
:57:59. > :58:04.Families come first. They are the way you make a nation strong from
:58:05. > :58:08.the inside out. I care deeply about those who struggle to get by but I
:58:09. > :58:13.believe the best thing to do is to help them stand on their own two
:58:14. > :58:19.feet and no that this is not saying you on your own, but we are on your
:58:20. > :58:22.side helping you to be all can. And I believe in something for
:58:23. > :58:27.something. Not something for nothing. Those who do the right
:58:28. > :58:30.thing, who put the effort in, who work and build communities - these
:58:31. > :58:36.are the people who should be rewarded. And all of this, all of
:58:37. > :58:42.this is underpinned by a deep patriotic them. I love this country.
:58:43. > :58:45.And my goal is this. To make Great Britain a country that everyone is
:58:46. > :58:49.proud to call home. That doesn't just mean having the fastest growing
:58:50. > :58:54.economy or climbing some international league table. I didn't
:58:55. > :58:59.come into politics to make the lines on the grass go in the right
:59:00. > :59:04.direction. I want to help you live a better life. -- lines on the graph.
:59:05. > :59:08.And it comes back to those things I believe. A Great Britain that
:59:09. > :59:14.everyone is proud to call home is a Britain where hard work is really
:59:15. > :59:20.warded, not a freefall, but a chance for all. -- really rewarded. A good
:59:21. > :59:26.chance in life wherever you are and wherever you are from. And, by the
:59:27. > :59:41.way, you never pull one person up by pulling another down. So this...
:59:42. > :59:50.This party does not do the politics of envy and class war. We leave that
:59:51. > :59:54.to others. We believe in aspiration and helping people to get on in
:59:55. > :00:00.life. What is more, we are proud of it.
:00:01. > :00:08.Now, the past four years have been about laying the foundations for
:00:09. > :00:13.that Britain. The next five will be about finishing the job. Put another
:00:14. > :00:17.way, if our economic plan for the past 4 years has been about our
:00:18. > :00:22.country and saving it from economic ruin, our plan for the next 5 years
:00:23. > :00:30.will be about you and your family and helping you to get on. But
:00:31. > :00:37.conservatives know this, nothing comes easy. There is no reward
:00:38. > :00:41.without effort, no wealth without work, no success without sacrifice.
:00:42. > :00:45.We credit the British people with knowing these things too. Other
:00:46. > :00:49.parties, they will preach to you about a brave new world. We
:00:50. > :00:55.understand that you have to start with the real world and make it
:00:56. > :01:02.better. I let other politicians stand on stage like this 1 and
:01:03. > :01:05.promise an easy life. Not me. I am here today to set out our
:01:06. > :01:14.conservative commitment for the next 5 years. -- Conservative. If you
:01:15. > :01:20.want to provide for yourself and your family, you will have the
:01:21. > :01:24.security of a job but only if we stick to our long-term economic
:01:25. > :01:28.plan. If you work hard, we will cut taxes but only if we keep cutting
:01:29. > :01:33.the deficit, so we can afford to do that. For those wanting to buy a
:01:34. > :01:37.home, yes, we will help you get onto that housing ladder but only if we
:01:38. > :01:42.take on the vested interests and build more homes, however hard that
:01:43. > :01:49.may be. We will make sure your children get a great education, the
:01:50. > :01:52.best education, but only if you keep on taking on everybody he gets in
:01:53. > :01:57.the way of high standards. For those retiring, we will make sure you get
:01:58. > :02:02.a decent pension and real wards for your life in work but only if we, as
:02:03. > :02:11.a country, except we all have to work a bit longer and save a bit
:02:12. > :02:15.more. -- accept. It is pretty simple really, a good job, a nice home,
:02:16. > :02:20.more money at the end of the month, a decent education for your
:02:21. > :02:25.children, a safe and secure retirement. A country where you put
:02:26. > :02:30.in, you get out. A Britain everyone is proud to call home. Above all, a
:02:31. > :02:41.proper, real, long-term plan to get there. Starts with more decent
:02:42. > :02:46.jobs. -- it starts. Look how far we have come! Today there are 1,800,000
:02:47. > :02:50.more jobs in our country than men were in 2010. We are creating more
:02:51. > :02:57.jobs here in Britain and the whole of Europe put together. -- band
:02:58. > :03:01.there were. You know what, when Britain is getting back to work, it
:03:02. > :03:02.can only mean one thing, the Conservatives are back in
:03:03. > :03:25.government. So, here is our commitment for the
:03:26. > :03:32.next 5 years, what the economists would call the highest employment
:03:33. > :03:37.rate of any major economy. I would call it full employment in Britain.
:03:38. > :03:40.Think what that would mean, those who can work able to work, standing
:03:41. > :03:45.on the own two feet, looking at their children and thinking, I am
:03:46. > :03:50.providing for you. We can get there but only if we stick to our plan.
:03:51. > :03:54.Companies from all over the world are coming here to invest and create
:03:55. > :03:59.jobs. That has not happened by accident. It is because they see a
:04:00. > :04:04.government which is rolling out the red carpet, cutting red tape,
:04:05. > :04:08.cutting taxes. Here is a commitment with the next Conservative
:04:09. > :04:13.government we will always have the most competitive corporate taxes in
:04:14. > :04:15.the grams 20, lower than Germany, lower than Japan, lower than the
:04:16. > :04:28.United States. That is our commitment. -- the G20's.
:04:29. > :04:37.George said something really important in that absolutely
:04:38. > :04:41.brilliant speech on Monday. A message to those global companies.
:04:42. > :04:47.We have cut your taxes, now you must pay what you owe.
:04:48. > :05:02.We must stick to the plan on welfare. If you are out of work, you
:05:03. > :05:05.will get unemployment benefit, but only if you go to the job centre,
:05:06. > :05:11.update to a CD, attend interviews and accept the work you are offered.
:05:12. > :05:16.As I said, no more something for nothing. Look at the results of what
:05:17. > :05:22.we have achieved so far. 800,000 fewer people on the main out of work
:05:23. > :05:28.benefits. In the next 5 years, we are going to go further. You heard
:05:29. > :05:33.it this week, we will not just aim to lower youth unemployment, we aim
:05:34. > :05:38.to abolish it. We have made clear decisions. We will reduce the
:05:39. > :05:42.benefits cap and say to those 21 and under, no longer will you have the
:05:43. > :05:50.option of leaving school and going straight into a life on benefits.
:05:51. > :05:52.You must earn or learn. We will help by funding 3,000,000
:05:53. > :05:57.apprenticeships. Let us say to our young people, a life on welfare is
:05:58. > :06:02.no life at all. Instead, here is some hope, a chance to get on and
:06:03. > :06:05.make something with your lives. That is our message to young people in
:06:06. > :06:16.Britain today. APPLAUSE
:06:17. > :06:25.And, what do our opponents have to say? They have opposed every change
:06:26. > :06:30.to welfare we have made and I expect they will oppose this one as well.
:06:31. > :06:35.They sit there pontificating about poverty and yet they are the ones
:06:36. > :06:40.who left a generation to rot on welfare. While we are at it, while
:06:41. > :06:45.we are at it, let us prepare our records. Under Labour, unemployment
:06:46. > :06:50.rose. With us, unemployment is falling faster than at any time for
:06:51. > :07:00.25 years. Under Labour, inequality widens. With ask it has narrowed.
:07:01. > :07:03.Those are the facts. Let us say it proudly and loudly with Britain
:07:04. > :07:07.getting off welfare and back to work. The real party of compassion
:07:08. > :07:09.and justice is not the Labour Party, it is the party in this hall, the
:07:10. > :07:27.Conservatives. And you know what? It is not just
:07:28. > :07:31.the job numbers that matter. It is the reality of working life for
:07:32. > :07:36.people in our country, especially the lowest paid. Anyone, anyone in
:07:37. > :07:43.our country should be free to take on different jobs so they can get
:07:44. > :07:47.on. When companies employ staff on 0 hours contracts and then stop them
:07:48. > :07:52.from getting work elsewhere, that is not a free market, that is a fixed
:07:53. > :08:02.market. In a Britain that everyone is proud to call home, people are
:08:03. > :08:04.employed. They are not used. So those exclusive zero hours
:08:05. > :08:21.contracts, we will scrap them. But, as Iain Duncan Smith and others
:08:22. > :08:26.have pointed out, there is still more injustice when it comes to
:08:27. > :08:29.work. It is even more shocking. Criminal gangs trafficking people
:08:30. > :08:35.halfway around the world and making them work in the most disgusting
:08:36. > :08:39.conditions. I have been to see these. Houses on our terraced
:08:40. > :08:43.streets, built for families of four but cramming in 15 people like
:08:44. > :08:49.animals. Those crime lords who think they can get away with it, I say,
:08:50. > :08:53.no, not in this country, not with this party. Our modern slavery Bill
:08:54. > :08:55.means we are coming after you and we will put a stop to it once and for
:08:56. > :09:14.all! Once you have a job, I want you to
:09:15. > :09:18.take home more of your own money. If you put in, you should get out and
:09:19. > :09:22.not and so much of it to the taxman. That is why these past 4
:09:23. > :09:28.years, despite everything, I have made sure we provide some relief to
:09:29. > :09:33.tax payers in our country, especially the poorest. Knowing
:09:34. > :09:42.contacts until you earn ?10,000 a year and from next April, ?10,500 a
:09:43. > :09:47.year. -- no income tax. It has been a tax cut for 25,000,000 people. Our
:09:48. > :09:53.commitment to you for the next 5 years, we want to cut more of your
:09:54. > :10:01.taxes. But we can only do that if we keep on cutting the deficit. This is
:10:02. > :10:06.common sense. Tax cuts need to be paid for. Here is our plan. We are
:10:07. > :10:13.going to balance the books by 2018 and stop putting aside money for the
:10:14. > :10:16.future. To do it, we will need to find ?25,000,000,000 worth of
:10:17. > :10:23.savings in the 1st two years of the next Parliament. That is a lot but
:10:24. > :10:28.it is doable. 25 billion is just 3% of what government spends each year.
:10:29. > :10:33.It is one quarter of the savings we found in this Parliament. I am
:10:34. > :10:38.confident we will find the savings we need through spending cuts alone.
:10:39. > :10:43.We will see the job through and we will get back into the black. As we
:10:44. > :10:47.do that, I am clear about something else. We need tax cuts for
:10:48. > :11:07.hard-working people. And here and now, I have a specific
:11:08. > :11:11.commitment. Today, right here today the minimum wage reaches ?6 50 an
:11:12. > :11:17.hour and before long we will reach our next goal of ?7 an hour. I can
:11:18. > :11:22.tell you now that a future Conservative government will raise
:11:23. > :11:26.the tax-free personal allowance from ?10,500 to ?12,500.
:11:27. > :11:52.That will take 1,000,000 more of the lowest paid workers out of income
:11:53. > :11:57.tax and it will give a tax cut to 30,000,000 more. With us, if you
:11:58. > :12:01.work 30 hours a week on minimum wage, you will pay no income tax at
:12:02. > :12:21.all, nothing, zero. Lower taxes for hard-working
:12:22. > :12:28.people. That is what I call a Britain that everyone is proud to
:12:29. > :12:36.call home. But... We will also do something Alice. The 40p tax rate
:12:37. > :12:41.was only supposed to be paid by the most well-off people in our country.
:12:42. > :12:45.In the past decade, far too many people have been dragged into it.
:12:46. > :12:51.Teachers, police officers. Let me tell you this today. I will take
:12:52. > :12:57.action that is long overdue and bring back some fairness to tax.
:12:58. > :13:03.With a Conservative government, we will raise the threshold at which
:13:04. > :13:07.people pay the 40p rate. It is currently ?41,900. In the next
:13:08. > :13:10.Parliament, we will raise it to ?50,000.
:13:11. > :13:43.So, here is our commitment to the British people. No income tax if you
:13:44. > :13:47.are on minimum wage, eight ?12,500 tax-free personal allowance for
:13:48. > :13:53.millions of hard-working people and you only pay 40p tax when you earn
:13:54. > :13:56.?50,000. Let the message go out, with the Conservatives, if you work
:13:57. > :14:00.hard and do the right thing, we say you should keep more of your own
:14:01. > :14:01.money to spend as you choose. That is what our long-term economic plan
:14:02. > :14:25.means for you. And while I am on the subject of big
:14:26. > :14:31.economic questions our country faces on spending, on tax. Did you hear Ed
:14:32. > :14:36.Miliband last week? He spoke for over an hour but did not mention the
:14:37. > :14:46.deficit once. Not once. He said he forgot to mention it. Look, people
:14:47. > :14:50.forget their car keys, my children sometimes forget their homework. I
:14:51. > :14:57.once even forgot that I left Nancy down the pub. Samantha, I am sorry,
:14:58. > :15:00.it won't happen again. But let me say this, you cannot be Prime
:15:01. > :15:02.Minister of this country and forget the most important issue that we
:15:03. > :15:22.face. A few weeks ago, Ed Balls said
:15:23. > :15:29.something interesting. LAUGHTER
:15:30. > :15:37.He said in 13 years of government, Labour had made some mistakes.
:15:38. > :15:40."Some" mistakes?! Excuse me?! You were the people who left Great
:15:41. > :15:44.Britain with the biggest youth -- peacetime deficit in history, who
:15:45. > :15:49.destroyed our pension system, bust our banking system, left 1 million
:15:50. > :15:55.people out of work, 5 million out of work benefits and hundreds of
:15:56. > :16:09.billions of debt. Labour was just one big mistake.
:16:10. > :16:14.And five years on, as Michael Gove just said in that brilliant speech,
:16:15. > :16:22.they still want to spend more, borrow more and tax more. It is the
:16:23. > :16:26.same old Labour. And you know what? They say that madness is doing the
:16:27. > :16:33.same thing over and over again but expecting different results. Well, I
:16:34. > :16:36.say madness is voting for this high spending, high taxing, deficit
:16:37. > :16:41.ballooning shower of an opposition and expecting anything other than an
:16:42. > :16:53.economic disaster. APPLAUSE
:16:54. > :16:59.In a country that everyone is proud to call home, you should be able to
:17:00. > :17:05.buy a home. If you are willing to save. It shouldn't be some
:17:06. > :17:15.impossible dream. But we inherited a situation where it was. Young people
:17:16. > :17:19.watched Location, Location, Location not as a reality show but as a
:17:20. > :17:22.fantasy. We couldn't solve this housing crisis without some
:17:23. > :17:25.difficult decisions. The planning system was stuck in the mud so we
:17:26. > :17:29.reformed it and last year nearly a quarter of a million houses were
:17:30. > :17:33.given planning permission. Young people needed massive deposits they
:17:34. > :17:37.just couldn't afford, so we brought in help to buy schemes. Of course
:17:38. > :17:41.there were those who criticise them. Usually speaking from the
:17:42. > :17:48.comfort of the homes they had bought some years ago. But let's see what
:17:49. > :17:52.actually happened. They said Helped By would just help people in
:17:53. > :17:56.London, but 94% of buyers lived outside the capital. They said it
:17:57. > :18:02.would help people with houses already but four fifths of
:18:03. > :18:06.first-time buyers are these people. They said it would cause a housing
:18:07. > :18:10.bubble but the Bank of England says it hasn't. So here is our renewed
:18:11. > :18:14.commitment to first-time buyers. If you are prepared to work and save we
:18:15. > :18:19.will help you get a place of your own. At this Conference we have
:18:20. > :18:24.announced a landmark new policy. It is called Starter Homes. We are
:18:25. > :18:29.going to build 100,000 new homes and they will be at least 20% cheaper
:18:30. > :18:42.than normal. But here is the crucial part. Buy to let landlords won't be
:18:43. > :18:44.than normal. But here is the crucial able to snap them up. Wealthy
:18:45. > :18:47.foreigners won't be able to buy them. Just first-time buyers under
:18:48. > :18:49.the age of 40. Homes built for you, made for you. Our party, the
:18:50. > :18:57.Conservative Party, the party of home ownership once again!
:18:58. > :19:04.In a Great Britain that everyone is proud to call home, you wouldn't be
:19:05. > :19:10.able to tell a child's GCSEs by their postcode or by what their
:19:11. > :19:17.parents do. There must be a great education for every child. A month
:19:18. > :19:21.ago, I had this wonderful moment. Florence is now four and just
:19:22. > :19:25.starting school, so for the first time, all three of my children are
:19:26. > :19:30.at the same primary school. And it was such a joy to take them all
:19:31. > :19:33.there together. Florence sort of clinging on for dear life until
:19:34. > :19:37.suddenly she saw a new friend and rushed into her classroom, not a
:19:38. > :19:43.backward glance, something dads have to get used to! And it is hard to
:19:44. > :19:48.describe what a relief it is as a parent to find a decent school for
:19:49. > :19:53.your child. But it shouldn't be a lottery. What we have, what Sam and
:19:54. > :19:59.I have in our state primary in London, I want every child in our
:20:00. > :20:03.country. And we are getting there. More children in good or outstanding
:20:04. > :20:07.schools. More children studying sciences, language and history. A
:20:08. > :20:11.new curriculum with five-year-olds learning fractions, 11-year-olds
:20:12. > :20:22.coding computers. Like me, you are probably finding the homework ardour
:20:23. > :20:24.and harder every night it comes back! But you know what? The biggest
:20:25. > :20:27.change, the biggest change that first Michael and now Nicky and her
:20:28. > :20:29.team are bringing about, the biggest change is the culture. We have got
:20:30. > :20:32.teachers who feel like leaders again. You say, this is our school,
:20:33. > :20:36.we are proud of it, the children behave in it and we will not
:20:37. > :20:44.tolerate failure within it. We have come so far. And make no mistake -
:20:45. > :20:50.the biggest risk to all this is Labour. You know what drives me most
:20:51. > :20:54.mad about them? It is the hypocrisy. Tristram Hunt, their Shadow
:20:55. > :20:59.Education Secretary, like me, had one of the best educations that
:21:00. > :21:03.money can buy. But guess what. He won't allow it for your children. He
:21:04. > :21:09.went to an independent school that wasn't set up by a local authority,
:21:10. > :21:13.but, no, you doesn't want parents and charities to set up schools with
:21:14. > :21:17.your children. He had the benefit of world-class teachers who happened
:21:18. > :21:20.not to have some government certificate, but, no, he wants to
:21:21. > :21:25.stop people like that from teaching your children. I tell you. Tristram
:21:26. > :21:28.Hunt and I have both had an education at some of the best
:21:29. > :21:35.schools in our country. But here is the difference. You, Tristram Hunt,
:21:36. > :21:41.like the rest of Labour, want to restrict those advantages. I want to
:21:42. > :21:56.spread them to every child in our country. Now, we know Labour's real
:21:57. > :22:01.problem on education. Every move they make, they have to take their
:22:02. > :22:05.cue from the unions. That is who they really represent. The unions.
:22:06. > :22:12.Well, I've got a bit of news for you. It is something we've never
:22:13. > :22:19.really said before. We in this party, we are a trade union, too.
:22:20. > :22:23.And I tell you who we represent. This party is the union for
:22:24. > :22:25.hard-working parents, for the father who read his children stories at
:22:26. > :22:29.night because he wants them to learn, the mother who works all the
:22:30. > :22:33.hours God sends to give her children the best start. This party is the
:22:34. > :22:37.trade union for children from the poorest estates and the most chaotic
:22:38. > :22:39.homes. This party is the union for the young woman who wants an
:22:40. > :22:47.apprenticeship, for the teenagers who want to make something of their
:22:48. > :22:50.lives. This is who we represent, these are the people we are fighting
:22:51. > :22:54.for, and that is why on education we will not let Labour drag us back to
:22:55. > :23:06.square one. We are going to finish what we have begun.
:23:07. > :23:13.A real education is not just about exams. Our young people must know
:23:14. > :23:19.that this is a country where if you put in, you will get out. Now, I
:23:20. > :23:23.have got in some trouble before for talking about Twitter. In fact, I've
:23:24. > :23:28.got in trouble for talking about quite a lot of things recently but
:23:29. > :23:33.we will pass over that! But I want a country where young people aren't
:23:34. > :23:38.endlessly thinking, what can I say in 140 characters, but what does my
:23:39. > :23:42.character say about me? And that is why I'm so proud of National
:23:43. > :23:47.Citizens' Service. Every summer, thousands of young people are coming
:23:48. > :23:50.together to volunteer and serve their community. We started this.
:23:51. > :23:59.People come up to me on the streets and say also some things. And
:24:00. > :24:04.believe me, they say also something is! But one thing I hear a lot is
:24:05. > :24:07.parents saying about National Citizens' Service, thank you for
:24:08. > :24:11.what this has done for my child, and I want this to become a rite of
:24:12. > :24:17.passage for all teenagers in our country. So I can tell you this. The
:24:18. > :24:20.next Conservative government will guarantee a place on National
:24:21. > :24:21.Citizens' Service for every teenager in our country.
:24:22. > :24:41.APPLAUSE Now, that rule that if you put in,
:24:42. > :24:44.you should get out - more than anywhere it should apply to those
:24:45. > :24:49.who want dignity and security in retirement. But for years, it
:24:50. > :24:56.didn't. There were, I think, three great roles. Number one, the Pension
:24:57. > :25:03.Credit that was basically a means test, so the more you saved, the
:25:04. > :25:05.lest you got -- the less you got. Compulsory annuities, which meant
:25:06. > :25:13.you couldn't spend your money as you wish. When people passed away, their
:25:14. > :25:17.pension was taxed at 55% before it went to their family. Three wrongs
:25:18. > :25:24.and we are putting each one right. The means test, it is going. In its
:25:25. > :25:28.place, a new single tier pension of ?142 a week. Every penny you save
:25:29. > :25:32.during your working life you will keep. Those compulsory annuities
:25:33. > :25:37.scrapped. Giving you complete control of your private pension. And
:25:38. > :25:44.as for that 55% tax on your pension, you heard it this week - we have cut
:25:45. > :25:54.it to 0%. Conservative values in action.
:25:55. > :26:01.But when it comes to our elderly, there is perhaps one thing that
:26:02. > :26:08.matters above everything. And that is knowing the NHS is payable for
:26:09. > :26:13.you. Now, from Labour last week, we had the same old rubbish about the
:26:14. > :26:17.Conservatives and the NHS. -- the NHS is there. They were spreading
:26:18. > :26:22.complete and utter lies and I just think, how dare you?! It was the
:26:23. > :26:26.Labour Party who gave us the scandal at Mid Staffs, elderly people
:26:27. > :26:29.begging for water and dying of neglect. And for me, this is
:26:30. > :26:33.personal. I am someone who has relied on the NHS and whose family
:26:34. > :26:35.knows more than most of our important it is. Who knows what it
:26:36. > :26:39.is like when you go to hospital night after night with a sick child
:26:40. > :26:42.in your arms knowing that when you get there, there are people who will
:26:43. > :26:46.love that child and care for that child as if it were their own. And
:26:47. > :26:51.how dare they suggest I would ever put that at risk for other people's
:26:52. > :26:52.children! How dare they frighten those who rely on our National
:26:53. > :27:33.Health Service! We in this party, I believe we can
:27:34. > :27:42.be proud of what we have done. We came in and we protected the NHS
:27:43. > :27:48.budget. We funded six -- 6500 more doctors, over 3000 more nurses, a
:27:49. > :27:52.cancer drug to save lives, and more people hearing those two magic words
:27:53. > :27:56.- all clear. And think of those amazing things around the corner.
:27:57. > :28:00.From the country that unravel DNA, we are now mapping it each
:28:01. > :28:04.individual. It is called the gene owned. And I have a model of one of
:28:05. > :28:13.the first ones on my desk in Downing Street. -- genome. This could mean
:28:14. > :28:17.cracking the code and saving thousands of lives. Our NHS is
:28:18. > :28:19.leading us on this incredible technology and I understand very
:28:20. > :28:23.personally the differences it could make. When you have had a child who
:28:24. > :28:28.is so ill and the doctors cannot work out what he has got all white,
:28:29. > :28:31.you would give anything to know, and the investment we are making will
:28:32. > :28:38.mean that parents have those answers and hopefully the queue is that go
:28:39. > :28:43.with them. -- what he has got or why. But all this is only possible
:28:44. > :28:49.because we have managed our economy responsibly. And that is why I can
:28:50. > :28:53.tell you this today. We will do it again. The next Conservative
:28:54. > :28:58.government will protect the NHS budget and continue to invest more,
:28:59. > :29:03.because we know this truth. Something Labour will never
:29:04. > :29:05.understand and we will never forget. You can only have a strong NHS if
:29:06. > :29:27.you have a strong economy. A Great Britain that everyone is
:29:28. > :29:32.proud to call home. A place where reward follows effort, where if you
:29:33. > :29:36.put in, you get out. But it also means a country that is strong in
:29:37. > :29:41.the world and in control of its own destiny. And, yes, that includes
:29:42. > :29:45.controlling immigration. To me, this is all about working on all fronts.
:29:46. > :29:51.It is about getting our own people fit for work, fixing welfare so a
:29:52. > :29:54.life on the dole is not an option, fixing education so we turn out to
:29:55. > :30:00.young people with skills to do the jobs we are creating, and, yes, we
:30:01. > :30:05.need controlled borders and an immigration system that puts the
:30:06. > :30:11.British people first. That is why we have capped economic migration from
:30:12. > :30:14.outside the EU, we have shut down 700 bogus colleges that will
:30:15. > :30:18.basically these factories, we have kicked out people who don't belong
:30:19. > :30:22.here like Abu Qatada, and let's hear it for the woman who made it
:30:23. > :30:37.happen, our crime-busting Home Secretary, Theresa May!
:30:38. > :30:46.But we know, the bigger issue today is migration from within the EU.
:30:47. > :30:50.Immediate access to our welfare system, paying benefits to families
:30:51. > :30:55.back home, employment agency signing up people from overseas and not
:30:56. > :30:59.recruiting here. Numbers that have increased faster than we in this
:31:00. > :31:03.country want it and at a level that is too much for our communities and
:31:04. > :31:08.Labour markets. All of this has two change and it will be at the very
:31:09. > :31:19.heart of my renegotiation strategy for Europe. Britain, I know you want
:31:20. > :31:22.this sorted. To Brussels, I will not take no for an answer and when it
:31:23. > :31:27.comes to free movement, I will get what Britain needs. Anyone who
:31:28. > :31:32.thinks I cannot and will not deliver this, I would say, judge me by my
:31:33. > :31:37.record. I am the 1st Prime Minister to veto a treaty, the 1st Prime
:31:38. > :31:40.Minister to cut the European budget. I pulled us out of the European
:31:41. > :31:47.bailout schemes as well. Around the table in Europe they know I say what
:31:48. > :31:52.I mean and I mean what I say. We will get our powers back and fight
:31:53. > :31:57.for our national interests. We will put it to a referendum in or out, it
:31:58. > :32:00.will be your choice. It is only with the Conservatives that you will get
:32:01. > :32:14.that choice. APPLAUSE
:32:15. > :32:19.Now, of course, it is not just the European Union that needs sorting
:32:20. > :32:26.out. It is the European Court of Human Rights as well. When that
:32:27. > :32:32.charter was written in the aftermath of the 2nd World War, it set out the
:32:33. > :32:37.basic rights we should respect. Since then, interpretations of that
:32:38. > :32:43.Charter had led to a whole lot of things that frankly wrong. Rulings
:32:44. > :32:46.to stop us deporting suspected terrorists, the suggestion you have
:32:47. > :32:50.to apply the human rights Convention, even on the battlefields
:32:51. > :32:59.of Helmand. Now they want to give prisoners the vote. No, I am sorry,
:33:00. > :33:02.I just do not agree. Our parliament, the British Parliament, decided they
:33:03. > :33:06.should not have that right. This is the country that wrote Magna Carta,
:33:07. > :33:10.the country that time and again has stood up for human rights, whether
:33:11. > :33:13.liberating Europe from fascism or leading the charge against sexual
:33:14. > :33:15.violence in war. That time and again has stood up for human rights,
:33:16. > :33:21.whether liberating Europe from fascism or leading the charge
:33:22. > :33:35.against sexual violence in war. Let me put APPLAUSE
:33:36. > :33:43.-- at long last, there will be a new British
:33:44. > :33:45.bill of rights. As for the Labour human rights act, we will scrap it
:33:46. > :34:06.once and for all. So that is what we offer. A Britain
:34:07. > :34:11.everyone is proud to call home and a very clear plan to get there. Over
:34:12. > :34:17.the next 5 years we will deliver the following things. 3 million
:34:18. > :34:30.apprenticeships, full employment, the most competitive corporate taxes
:34:31. > :34:33.in the G20. Eliminating the deficit through cuts and not tax rises,
:34:34. > :34:40.letting you pass on your pension tax-free, ring fencing NHS spending
:34:41. > :34:44.so not a penny is cut. Renegotiating in Europe, delivering the in-our
:34:45. > :34:50.referendum and scrapping the human rights act. No income tax until you
:34:51. > :34:59.earn ?12,500 and no 40p tax rate until you earn ?50,000. If you want
:35:00. > :35:07.those things, vote for me. If you do not, vote for the other guy. Let's
:35:08. > :35:11.be clear... Let's be clear, this is a straight fight. It does not matter
:35:12. > :35:18.whether Parliament is hung, drawn or quartered. There is only 1 real
:35:19. > :35:24.choice, the Conservatives or Labour. Me in Downing Street or Ed Miliband
:35:25. > :35:28.in Downing Street. If you vote UKIP, that is really about the Labour.
:35:29. > :35:32.Here is a thought. Here is a thought for you.
:35:33. > :35:52.On the 7th of May, you could go to bed with Nigel Farage and wake up
:35:53. > :36:00.with Ed Miliband. I do not know about you but not one bit of that
:36:01. > :36:04.works with me. So, here is the big question for that election. On the
:36:05. > :36:09.things that matter in your life, who do you really trust? When it comes
:36:10. > :36:13.to your job, do you trust Labour who wrecked our Econ me or the
:36:14. > :36:18.Conservatives who have made this one of the fastest-growing economies in
:36:19. > :36:23.the West? -- our economy. When it comes to our future, who do you
:36:24. > :36:31.trust - Labour or the Conservatives? Who do you trust, the
:36:32. > :36:36.party of big debt, big spending, big borrowing or the party - our party -
:36:37. > :36:41.of the first pay cheque, the 1st chance, the 1st home, the 1 that is
:36:42. > :36:46.delivering more security, more opportunity and more hope? Our
:36:47. > :36:50.party, the Conservative party, that is the choice at the next election.
:36:51. > :37:07.APPLAUSE We are making Britain proud again.
:37:08. > :37:12.Look what we are showing the world. Not just a country that is paying
:37:13. > :37:15.down its debts and going from the deepest recession since the walk to
:37:16. > :37:19.the fastest-growing major advanced economy in the world but, at the
:37:20. > :37:24.same time, a country that has kept its promises to the poorest in the
:37:25. > :37:27.world, that is leading, not following, on climate change, and
:37:28. > :37:31.has just saved our United Kingdom are one of the greatest shows of
:37:32. > :37:38.democracy the world has ever seen. We are making Britain proud again.
:37:39. > :37:42.Our exports to China doubling, our car industry booming, our aerospace
:37:43. > :37:47.expanding. Our manufacturing growing, we are making Britain proud
:37:48. > :37:52.again. Car engine is not imported from Germany but built down the road
:37:53. > :37:57.in Wolverhampton. New oil rigs not made in China but built on the
:37:58. > :38:02.Tyne. Record levels of employment, record levels of apprenticeships,
:38:03. > :38:09.Britain regaining its purpose, pride and confidence. We are, where all
:38:10. > :38:13.the hard work is finally paying off and the light is coming up after
:38:14. > :38:17.some long and dark days. Go back now and we will lose all we have done,
:38:18. > :38:21.falling back into the shadows when we should be striding into the sun.
:38:22. > :38:30.That is the question next May. Do you want to go back to square one or
:38:31. > :38:38.finish what we have begun? I do not claim to be a perfect leader but I
:38:39. > :38:42.am your public servant, standing here, wanting to make our country so
:38:43. > :38:49.much better for your children and mine. I love this country and I will
:38:50. > :38:52.do my duty by it. We have the track record, the right team to take this
:38:53. > :38:58.plan for our country and turn it into a plan for you. I think of the
:38:59. > :39:01.millions of people going out to work. Wiping the ice of the
:39:02. > :39:05.windscreen on a winter 's morning, raising their children as well as
:39:06. > :39:11.they can. Working as hard as they can and doing it for a better
:39:12. > :39:14.future, to make a good life for them and their families. That is the
:39:15. > :39:19.British spirit. It is there in our ordinary days as well as our finest
:39:20. > :39:27.hours. History is not written for us but by us and the decisions we make
:39:28. > :39:32.today. That starts next May. So, Britain, what will it be? I say,
:39:33. > :39:37.let's not go back to square one. Let's finish what we have begun. Let
:39:38. > :39:39.us build a Britain we are proud to call home for you, your family, for
:39:40. > :40:05.everyone. And Mister Cameron comes to the end
:40:06. > :40:09.of his speech here in Birmingham. It was full of announcements. You would
:40:10. > :40:13.not think there was an election coming up in seven months' time. He
:40:14. > :40:20.had to taxcutting rabbits he pulled out of his hat. He is to raise the
:40:21. > :40:24.personal allowance. He said the Government would increase that to
:40:25. > :40:29.?12,500. A very expensive tax pledge. He has just made that. In
:40:30. > :40:35.the audience he spoke to, he will raise the rate at which the 40p tax
:40:36. > :40:42.rate clicks in from the current, just shy of 40 50,000 in a
:40:43. > :40:47.Conservative government. It was a passionate speech from Mr Cameron,
:40:48. > :40:55.his section on the NHS. He attacked Labour for attacking him on the NHS.
:40:56. > :41:03.He also tried to re-establish the Conservative Party 's credentials as
:41:04. > :41:09.the party of home ownership. We had the tough news from the timeslot on
:41:10. > :41:17.Monday and this was more sunny. There he is, taking the applause of
:41:18. > :41:22.his troops, as he leaves the hall with his wife, Samantha. He will be
:41:23. > :41:26.happy with that, I suspect. Many people here thinking it may have
:41:27. > :41:29.been one of the best speeches he has given to the Conservative conference
:41:30. > :41:34.in the time he has been party leader. You can see from his face,
:41:35. > :41:39.he is probably relieved it is all over but he is also happy it has
:41:40. > :41:45.gone down pretty well. There is the Defence Secretary, Michael Fallon.
:41:46. > :41:48.This is all choreographed as he turns round and ways as he finally
:41:49. > :41:56.leaves the hall, which is not too far from where we are. -- and waves.
:41:57. > :42:00.What do you make of it? It was a very good speech, very well
:42:01. > :42:06.delivered and very well constructed. As a former speech writer, it was
:42:07. > :42:10.very good. These speeches do not make much impact on the public.
:42:11. > :42:12.People ignore them and they do not believe promises. That is important
:42:13. > :42:17.to note for the public. People ignore them and they do not believe
:42:18. > :42:23.promises. That is important to note for that it not turn back and it is
:42:24. > :42:28.me versus Ed Miliband. That was very effectively framed, very well put.
:42:29. > :42:33.There will, of course, then baby after bit of the speech as everyone
:42:34. > :42:35.analyses the plans and there will be some questions over whether money
:42:36. > :42:41.will come from with the pledges made. It is clear, first of all, it
:42:42. > :42:49.is obvious those promises were made for after Britain has managed to
:42:50. > :42:55.move back into surplus. Really? None of this before 2018? Are you sure?
:42:56. > :43:01.We will have to analyse the text. I think he did say it would be towards
:43:02. > :43:11.the end of doing that. There may be a down payment early. I thought
:43:12. > :43:15.there was no money. I always err on the side of caution. I believe we
:43:16. > :43:20.have to get public spending down in the long run and taxes down as well.
:43:21. > :43:26.My view is that once you reach the end of the period of public sector
:43:27. > :43:31.reform, to get spending down, you keep going guy trying to suppress a
:43:32. > :43:38.pub expanding and having competitive international tax rates. You are
:43:39. > :43:49.quite right. -- suppress public spending. You are sensing the NHS,
:43:50. > :43:54.you have this massive increase in the personal allowance which we
:43:55. > :43:58.reckon will cost at least 8 billion, maybe more. A massive increase in
:43:59. > :44:07.the threshold for the 40p rate. Where will the money come from? We
:44:08. > :44:12.heard the good cop today in David Cameron in giving all these
:44:13. > :44:16.promises. We had the bad cop the other day with George Osborne. It is
:44:17. > :44:21.clear there is a lot of pain still to come. Most of these best
:44:22. > :44:25.measures, the guests promised by David Cameron, will not come until
:44:26. > :44:31.the latter stages of next Parliament. He is offering a bit of
:44:32. > :44:37.hope. Compared with the speech we had from Ed Miliband last week, it
:44:38. > :44:46.was very clearly framed. He framed the election. This choice of risk
:44:47. > :44:50.versus prosperity, that will be what the Tories will repeat again and
:44:51. > :44:57.again and again. We are joined by Nick Robinson, who is in the hall.
:44:58. > :45:03.You say to people, we will sort out the borrowing, get taxes down and
:45:04. > :45:10.fight with Europe. People will say, hold on just a second, where is this
:45:11. > :45:15.cash coming from? The answer may be economic growth eventually. It is a
:45:16. > :45:24.gamble. Labour will say, the deficit was supposed to have been eliminated
:45:25. > :45:27.before 2018 and is now massive. Therefore there will be those
:45:28. > :45:33.questions about exactly how this is paid for, when it is delivered, and,
:45:34. > :45:37.of course, questions about the fairness of removing some people
:45:38. > :45:41.from the upper rate, not the top rate tax, but the upper rate at the
:45:42. > :45:46.same time as squeezing benefits of the working in the form of tax
:45:47. > :45:50.credits. In a sense, the Prime Minister told you his priorities. He
:45:51. > :45:55.would rather not take from people in one hand in the form of tax and give
:45:56. > :45:56.it to them back in the form of tax credits. A classic Tory message but
:45:57. > :46:06.it is a gamble. This last government has shown you
:46:07. > :46:10.can cut public spending without cutting the quality of public
:46:11. > :46:14.services and the strategy of the Conservative Party over decades is
:46:15. > :46:17.to try to drive taxes down, to have lower public spending at the same
:46:18. > :46:21.time as having better public services, so this is, in a sense,
:46:22. > :46:25.just delivering that message. Some people don't agree with that. A
:46:26. > :46:30.little town council is already suffering cuts and the NHS is in
:46:31. > :46:39.deficit. Yes, some people don't agree with that and in some areas it
:46:40. > :46:41.has been more difficult. But crime is down even though police numbers
:46:42. > :46:44.are down, so that demonstrates that link was not right. But hasn't
:46:45. > :46:51.Dileep haven't they just change the terms of the argument? -- but
:46:52. > :46:57.haven't they just? Why one Labour now say, we are going to use the
:46:58. > :47:03.money for extra public spending? -- why won't? Well, he has a lot of
:47:04. > :47:08.this won't happen until 2018. You make a bit of a downpayment before
:47:09. > :47:11.then but he has said, stick with the medicine, keep making the cuts, and
:47:12. > :47:15.they will be difficult, but if you stick to this course there will be
:47:16. > :47:19.reward at the end and it won't just be a reward for those at the top
:47:20. > :47:24.like the 40p taxpayers. He is going to lift the income tax threshold for
:47:25. > :47:30.poorer workers. Can I just check with Nick. Is it not explicit that
:47:31. > :47:34.these tax goodies come into the Budget is balanced in 2018 or do
:47:35. > :47:40.they start right away if the Tories re-elected? Or win an election in
:47:41. > :47:46.May? I don't think it is explicit. It was implied they would come in
:47:47. > :47:50.after the deficit is sorted. Because his opening explanation of what the
:47:51. > :47:56.Tory offer was, he was very careful to keep saying "if". We can do that
:47:57. > :48:01.if... But the sound bites we used on the television news, the things
:48:02. > :48:05.people will see, didn't have that conditionality for the "if" word. It
:48:06. > :48:08.was the sort of thing you would see one platform at a Tory Conference in
:48:09. > :48:13.the 80s under Margaret Thatcher - vote for us, we will cut your taxes.
:48:14. > :48:18.And not just the working people, in other words, those people out of tax
:48:19. > :48:21.by the personal allowance, but those on higher salaries who have been
:48:22. > :48:25.dragged into paying up attacks. They would not describe themselves as
:48:26. > :48:31.well off. Many would say they are stretched. -- into paying higher
:48:32. > :48:35.tax. But it is a choice. That is enough pundits for the moment!
:48:36. > :48:41.Let's hear what the Tory Party faithful maid of that. Jo Co has
:48:42. > :48:47.some in the war with her. -- made of that.
:48:48. > :48:51.Let's talk to a few who heard the speech and see what they thought. I
:48:52. > :48:55.think that was the best speech I have witnessed that any Tory Party
:48:56. > :49:00.Conference. That is going to knock out UKIP and win us the next
:49:01. > :49:07.election. Were you scared before? I am a realist about where we are but
:49:08. > :49:16.I think you will be in 10 Downing Street next May. Did you believe his
:49:17. > :49:21.pledge on Europe? I do and I believe that aspect. I believe we should
:49:22. > :49:24.stay in Europe, though. I thought that was absolutely amazing. If you
:49:25. > :49:34.don't know what the Conservatives will be promising next you -- I
:49:35. > :49:38.don't think you ever will! The fact that people on the minimum wage
:49:39. > :49:45.won't be paying tax at all. That is outstanding. Your thoughts on the
:49:46. > :49:50.speech? I thought it was a really good speech. Especially the minimum
:49:51. > :49:54.wage, taking people out of tax completely. How will that be paid
:49:55. > :49:59.for, do you think? With the savings he announced, the 25 billion of
:50:00. > :50:02.spending cuts. There will be no tax rises for anyone, which is
:50:03. > :50:08.fantastic. Traditional Tory speech from David Cameron making that
:50:09. > :50:11.pitched - him or me. Yes, it is so important we win this election and
:50:12. > :50:19.have another five years to finish the job we set out to do. Hello!
:50:20. > :50:25.What are your thoughts? Extremely mediocre for Mr Cameron. It is
:50:26. > :50:33.already well taking people out of the ?12,500 income tax threshold but
:50:34. > :50:38.then the 50,000 under 40p rate. I don't think it is a policy that
:50:39. > :50:43.should be prevented. Well, a variety of thoughts generally welcoming of
:50:44. > :50:49.those thoughts on tax. We're joined now by the Chief Whip
:50:50. > :50:52.Michael Gove. Welcome to this Daily Politics special. Increasing the
:50:53. > :50:59.daily allowance, how much will that cost? I think it will cost just over
:51:00. > :51:06.?5 billion. It will actually cost 8 billion. Are you sure? Yes, because
:51:07. > :51:11.it will cost 2 billion this year and you are going to do it by four times
:51:12. > :51:17.that so I would suggest that is closer to 8 billion. Well, we will
:51:18. > :51:30.check that. How much will bringing in the ?50,000 40p tax rate? I think
:51:31. > :51:35.2 billion. I think more like 3.5 billion. Quite a significant sum.
:51:36. > :51:40.Where does it come from? Well, we reduce welfare spending and continue
:51:41. > :51:43.to reduce the bureaucracy, waste and so on in government departments. We
:51:44. > :51:48.have already got a significant amount out and there is more to
:51:49. > :51:52.come. As Secretary of State, I was able to reduce it... Well, the
:51:53. > :51:57.deficit is actually rising this year so the deficit is still going up, at
:51:58. > :52:04.around 100 billion, and suddenly you are spraying all this money around.
:52:05. > :52:07.Is it imaginary? No. But firstly we are making clear that for the first
:52:08. > :52:11.three years of the next government we will continue to bear down on
:52:12. > :52:14.spending, because, as you rightly pointed out, the work on the deficit
:52:15. > :52:18.reduction hasn't been done. But it is also the case that we have seen
:52:19. > :52:22.reduction in government spending in variety Asch Mac in various
:52:23. > :52:24.departments and we have seen the deficit reduced and we have made
:52:25. > :52:29.progress towards that goal, and then also at the end of the Parliament,
:52:30. > :52:33.we will be running a surplus on the money we have saved in order to
:52:34. > :52:36.reward people for working hard, a principle that I hope you would
:52:37. > :52:40.endorse. Whether I endorse anything is neither here nor there! It may
:52:41. > :52:46.matter to you but not to many other people. Can I just ask you, is it
:52:47. > :52:51.the case that none of these tax cuts take place to you supposedly balance
:52:52. > :52:59.the Budget in 2018? Yes. So there will be no tax cuts in 2015...?
:53:00. > :53:03.Well, the promise was laid out by the Prime Minister in 2020. Every
:53:04. > :53:06.minister would say this. I'm not going to say what is in each
:53:07. > :53:10.progressive Budget but there is a target which be hit and tax policies
:53:11. > :53:16.which will be delivered by the end of the Parliament, by 2020. Let's
:53:17. > :53:22.just look at the caveat. You at the moment store providing over a Budget
:53:23. > :53:27.which is north of ?100 billion. -- still presiding. You have to do that
:53:28. > :53:32.before that happens. Then you say you are going to run a surplus after
:53:33. > :53:35.2018. And yet you are still going to give tax cuts of around ten billion
:53:36. > :53:41.and ring-fence the NHS, so you will have to one very big surplus to do
:53:42. > :53:47.all that? If we go back to the initial calculations you made on the
:53:48. > :53:51.back of your envelope, they will be less. But they will store be
:53:52. > :53:59.significant. There were also some people who were cynical about our
:54:00. > :54:02.capacity not only to reduce the deficit but create jobs, and those
:54:03. > :54:07.cynics and sceptics have been proved wrong. -- they will still be
:54:08. > :54:12.significant. You said I couldn't take 50% out of the cost of running
:54:13. > :54:16.the department, the bureaucracy cost, and at the same time run the
:54:17. > :54:19.service, but we did. And one of the striking things about the last four
:54:20. > :54:26.and a half years is that what we have achieved has been achieved with
:54:27. > :54:30.far greater flair than others. Spending has been cut. Even on your
:54:31. > :54:37.current spending plans, budgets will have to be squeezed by 25% in the
:54:38. > :54:42.next Parliament in real terms. You say you would want to one surplus.
:54:43. > :54:46.Add another 20 billion to get that. Then you are going to cut the taxes
:54:47. > :54:52.by 10 billion. You need a massive amount of money to be able to do
:54:53. > :54:54.this. Yes, we do need to be able to make some significant changes to
:54:55. > :54:58.make sure we can bear down on government costs but we made some
:54:59. > :55:07.tough decisions this week. On Monday when George Osborne gave his speech,
:55:08. > :55:10.you and others were drawing in your breath and saying, phew, that is
:55:11. > :55:13.brave, that is be saying to the public... Excuse me! I never said
:55:14. > :55:15.that! Neither did I draw in my breath. Where did you get that
:55:16. > :55:22.from?! You must have been watching another channel! I've told you not
:55:23. > :55:26.to do that! I never watch any other channel when you on, Andrew. But
:55:27. > :55:28.most commentators said the Chancellor was very brave in
:55:29. > :55:32.stressing in a way that no other politician has this season or this
:55:33. > :55:36.year that deficit reduction would require additional cuts, and he also
:55:37. > :55:40.spilled at cuts in welfare which are not going to be popular with some
:55:41. > :55:46.but which are necessary. -- spilled out cuts. So it is not fair of you
:55:47. > :55:49.to say we have shied away from levelling with people about the
:55:50. > :55:54.scale of the change, but I would say again that we owe it to the BBC to
:55:55. > :55:59.check those figures you used right at the beginning. Well, you would
:56:00. > :56:03.have them right at the beginning so we could have checked them, that's
:56:04. > :56:07.what I would have thought. He said your government is paying down the
:56:08. > :56:13.debt. Can we clarify that actually you are massively increasing the
:56:14. > :56:17.debt and that it is heading from 1.3 trillion to 1.5 trillion. You are
:56:18. > :56:21.not paying down the debt. We are reducing the size of the deficit and
:56:22. > :56:26.that is what you need to do before you reduce the size of the debt. So
:56:27. > :56:29.you would want to correct the Prime Minister on that. Why did you not
:56:30. > :56:36.put that in the speech? I thought you were marking it! The difference
:56:37. > :56:42.between debt and deficit. As long as you run the deficit, you are
:56:43. > :56:48.reducing the debt. You are the chief whip, right? So while all these
:56:49. > :56:52.people... Two people have defected to UKIP since you became chief whip.
:56:53. > :56:58.Why are you so useless as Chief Whip? You need to keep them in line!
:56:59. > :57:02.I try my best but you will have to ask them... Your best is just not
:57:03. > :57:12.good enough! That is what my mother always told me. Mr reckless was
:57:13. > :57:20.prime suspect number one. -- Mr Reckless. He assured me and others
:57:21. > :57:25.repeatedly that he was not going to defect. If someone decides that they
:57:26. > :57:28.are going to leave a political party or perhaps leave any organisation,
:57:29. > :57:32.and in their heart they have already made that decision, then of course
:57:33. > :57:38.they are going to disassemble, and I am sorry he took that decision. You
:57:39. > :57:43.took him to lunch? Where did you take an? The House of Commons. Maybe
:57:44. > :57:48.you should have taken somewhere better. You might have stayed! Even
:57:49. > :57:53.if I had fed him foie gras, oysters and champagne, he would have
:57:54. > :57:59.defected. He has made his bed. Who else of your MPs do you think are
:58:00. > :58:07.lying to you? I don't think they are. Well, you said Mr Reckless did,
:58:08. > :58:09.so who else? Well, I am a politician... You have significantly
:58:10. > :58:15.more risk -- experience than I have, Andrew. The one that I would say to
:58:16. > :58:22.you is that as a public servant, I recognise people go into public
:58:23. > :58:31.service with the best of motives. So you are not going to lose any more
:58:32. > :58:35.MPs to UKIP? I do but then I can to remind people that the Conservative
:58:36. > :58:38.family can only prosper if we stay together. That is it from the
:58:39. > :58:42.Conservative Party Conference in Birmingham. The one o'clock News is
:58:43. > :58:46.starting on BBC One. Jo Co will be back tomorrow with more Daily
:58:47. > :58:49.Politics. I will be back tomorrow night, or actually tonight, just
:58:50. > :58:54.after Newsnight, and back on BBC One tomorrow night with This Week.
:58:55. > :59:08.Goodbye. Ladies and gentlemen,
:59:09. > :59:09.we have liftoff. QI is back with a series all about L,
:59:10. > :59:15.so loosen up your laughing gear,