04/11/2015

:00:44. > :00:48.The Government's about to publish plans for new surveillance laws.

:00:49. > :00:50.The Investigatory Powers Bill will set out how the police,

:00:51. > :00:53.intelligence agencies, and other state bodies can access people's

:00:54. > :00:59.In fact, David Cameron's having a spot of bother over a few issues.

:01:00. > :01:01.Yes, take the dispute over junior doctors' pay

:01:02. > :01:07.They'll get an 11% pay rise, but they'll have to work more

:01:08. > :01:13.Is today's new offer enough to ward off industrial action?

:01:14. > :01:20.Barnaby from Bristol, it could be your lucky day.

:01:21. > :01:22.Jezza's been crowd-sourcing his questions to Dave again.

:01:23. > :01:30.And, it's meant to celebrate our cultural and creative heritage

:01:31. > :01:43.And with us for the duration, a beautifully gender-balanced

:01:44. > :01:46.panel, especially designed to please Jack Dromey's wife, Harriet Harman.

:01:47. > :01:47.Deputy Leader of the Commons, Therese Coffey,

:01:48. > :01:50.who famously got locked in the House of Commons library, and

:01:51. > :01:53.Shadow Home Office Minister, Jack Dromey, who has never been locked

:01:54. > :02:02.Now first this morning junior doctors in England are being offered

:02:03. > :02:04.an 11% pay rise in an attempt by the Government to head

:02:05. > :02:24.But Saturdays would become part of their normal working week -

:02:25. > :02:25.rather than being classed as "unsocial hours".

:02:26. > :02:28.And there'd be an end to guaranteed annual pay rises.

:02:29. > :02:30.Let's hear what the Health Secretary, Jeremy Huntm had

:02:31. > :02:34.We have actually been wanting to negotiate with the BMA since June

:02:35. > :02:37.but they have refused to sit round the table with us.

:02:38. > :02:39.Instead they have proceeded to ballot for industrial

:02:40. > :02:43.I think the only responsible thing to do is actually to publish what

:02:44. > :02:46.our offer is today when it is clear they are not interested

:02:47. > :02:51.Jeremy Hunt. IDG decide to go public with the offer of an 11%

:02:52. > :02:51.Jeremy Hunt. IDG decide to go public basic pay for junior doctors instead

:02:52. > :02:57.of going to the BMA and negotiating? basic pay for junior doctors instead

:02:58. > :03:06.The situation has been drawing out. It

:03:07. > :03:07.The situation has been drawing out. to address that. We want to make

:03:08. > :03:13.sure every doctor who has to address that. We want to make

:03:14. > :03:20.understands the implications. It really matters. It has not been or

:03:21. > :03:27.negotiation. That is the criticism of the NBA. -- BMA. Is that the

:03:28. > :03:31.right way to handle it? You heard from the Health Secretary, he felt

:03:32. > :03:34.the BMA was from the Health Secretary, he felt

:03:35. > :03:38.negotiate. It does matter that instead of having to do something

:03:39. > :03:44.through an intermediary, brothers and the BMA want to hear the facts

:03:45. > :03:48.themselves and get that decision. It is good for them and bid for patient

:03:49. > :03:48.themselves and get that decision. It safety. There is a lot to be

:03:49. > :03:57.positive about in safety. There is a lot to be

:03:58. > :04:01.good. There is loads of anger. The ballot papers could go out today. It

:04:02. > :04:07.has not worked, the negotiation. ballot papers could go out today. It

:04:08. > :04:14.deal. If you are told by your union you will get a 30 the cent pay cut

:04:15. > :04:18.and you will work more hours, it would be no surprise to be angry

:04:19. > :04:22.and you will work more hours, it that is not the case. --

:04:23. > :04:26.and you will work more hours, it cut. They will have

:04:27. > :04:32.and you will work more hours, it It is good news for doctors. Do you

:04:33. > :04:42.and you will work more hours, it Yellow mac and it has two

:04:43. > :04:42.and you will work more hours, it justify its own actions. The 11% pay

:04:43. > :04:49.rise which is being offered follows justify its own actions. The 11% pay

:04:50. > :04:52.a cut of 20-30% in out of hours pay. Rightly or wrongly, that is the net

:04:53. > :04:53.result of the contract that is being, not

:04:54. > :04:57.result of the contract that is Government, the BMA says it will be

:04:58. > :05:02.imposed if Government, the BMA says it will be

:05:03. > :05:06.can understand why doctors are out on the streets protesting.

:05:07. > :05:10.can understand why doctors are out do not choose when they are ill.

:05:11. > :05:14.There is a need to address the issue that people have higher success

:05:15. > :05:19.rates if they are treated, or arrived in hospital, on a weekday.

:05:20. > :05:23.We believe by moving from the 10am -7 p.m. Standard hours for Monday to

:05:24. > :05:28.Saturday and then an additional premium for working any thing and on

:05:29. > :05:31.Sundays, we think that is the right balanced approach. Do you

:05:32. > :05:37.Sundays, we think that is the right is there they lose 20%-30% of that

:05:38. > :05:43.out of hours pay bastion marked it is about mitigating a loss of 30% of

:05:44. > :05:55.out of hours pay. -- out of hours pay? No junior doctor will lose pay.

:05:56. > :06:03.Not true. Why do you say that? I have looked the facts and listened

:06:04. > :06:08.to junior doctors. Is it true there should be extended coverage at the

:06:09. > :06:14.weekends? Yes, it could mean the issue of life and death. Jeremy Hunt

:06:15. > :06:19.is a wee bit like dodgy employers are used to deal with in the world

:06:20. > :06:24.of work, making now you see it, now you do not office. 11% offer, that

:06:25. > :06:28.camouflage is what will happen in terms of unsocial hours payments.

:06:29. > :06:34.One junior doctor I saw this morning will lose ?8,000 a year as a

:06:35. > :06:38.consequence. What are you proposing? Are you proposing they should keep

:06:39. > :06:43.the 11% pay rise and still be paid doubled the amount of money they

:06:44. > :06:52.will get for anti-social hours? My experience the world of work does --

:06:53. > :06:57.is that it does not help when the employer places a gun at your head.

:06:58. > :07:01.Going over the head of those who represent junior doctors. That is

:07:02. > :07:04.wrong. The next stage is that we would be with the Government saying

:07:05. > :07:08.we need enhanced capacity at the weekend. What we need is a

:07:09. > :07:11.withdrawal of the threat, a toning down of language, a serious

:07:12. > :07:17.negotiation at the next stages, where there will be some give and

:07:18. > :07:22.take. Would you go to junior doctors in your constituency and say, oh by

:07:23. > :07:30.the way, I know you will get 11% more because you will lose unsocial

:07:31. > :07:35.hours, you will lose ?8,000 a year. That is not the case. Every single

:07:36. > :07:42.junior doctor will not lose a penny. For those where there is a

:07:43. > :07:47.transition, there will be a pay we met to cover that. A basic starting

:07:48. > :07:53.salary will increase to ?25,000. By the time they come to training it

:07:54. > :07:57.will be ?55,000. We will have to move on quickly. Should the BMA

:07:58. > :08:03.withdraw its threat for balloting members? They should be back around

:08:04. > :08:08.the negotiating table. If I were Jeremy Hunt, I would ring the phone

:08:09. > :08:13.and contact the BMA to try to sort this out. This is about safeguarding

:08:14. > :08:18.the interests of junior doctors. Should they further compromise? The

:08:19. > :08:22.Secretary of State should be very clear. He has made a very clear

:08:23. > :08:25.offered to the doctors directly and they need to act on that. Take it

:08:26. > :08:27.all leave it. Now yesterday, the former

:08:28. > :08:29.Labour Leader, Neil Kinnock, gave an interview in which he warned

:08:30. > :08:32.the current Labour Leader, Jeremy Corbyn, that British voters would

:08:33. > :08:35.not back a party that supported Lord Kinnock said his party must

:08:36. > :08:39.confront the "reality" that it will not win a general election with a

:08:40. > :08:41.defence policy opposing the renewal But only hours after he issued his

:08:42. > :08:46.warning, Scottish Labour MSPs voted with Nicola Sturgeon's Nationalists

:08:47. > :09:05.at Holyrood for a motion calling Now, Jeremy, do you actually support

:09:06. > :09:11.what Lord Kinnock was saying? The reality is the British public will

:09:12. > :09:17.not vote for a party that supports unilateral nuclear disarmament. Any

:09:18. > :09:25.government, which is perceived to put national-security at risk, there

:09:26. > :09:31.is no doubt. I know fast lane very well. The instinct of the British

:09:32. > :09:35.people is that they want to be guaranteed they have strong national

:09:36. > :09:41.defences and the capacity to intervene globally where

:09:42. > :09:45.appropriate. The first thing is, we must in -- unequivocally be on the

:09:46. > :09:49.side of the British people. To be frank, we must learn the lessons

:09:50. > :09:52.from history that if we sound like we're anti-defence, the British

:09:53. > :10:01.people will never support the Labour Party. So, Jeremy Corbyn is wrong?

:10:02. > :10:06.You can have an intelligent debate about how you might make bold moves

:10:07. > :10:11.as part of a multilateral strategy. Sometimes the debate gets

:10:12. > :10:15.polarised. I do a unilateralist or a multilateralist? Do I want to see a

:10:16. > :10:19.nuclear free world? Yes, without hesitation. We must not send the

:10:20. > :10:25.message that somehow we're anti-defence. We never have been and

:10:26. > :10:30.we never will be. What message is Labour sending? MSPs in Scotland

:10:31. > :10:33.voted with nationalists to scrap Trident. Its leader supports the

:10:34. > :10:41.renewal of Trident. The vast majority of Labour MS -- MSPs

:10:42. > :10:46.supported but the leader does not. There is a lively debate going on.

:10:47. > :10:50.There is no doubt about that. What is quite interesting is, in my

:10:51. > :10:54.dealings with the Armed Forces over the years, within the Armed Forces,

:10:55. > :11:00.there were different views in relation to the nuclear deterrent. I

:11:01. > :11:08.have not got a problem about a sensible debate about how you might

:11:09. > :11:11.take some bold steps here nationally to achieve that international

:11:12. > :11:18.objective. Let's have that debate at the next stages. Coming back to

:11:19. > :11:22.that, do not ever send the message that somehow we do not take

:11:23. > :11:26.seriously the national security of the people of Britain. Today in the

:11:27. > :11:32.police debate, will be arguing exactly that. Some people are saying

:11:33. > :11:36.you are sending a message. When do you have that debate? The Shadow

:11:37. > :11:40.Defence Secretary wants to push this decision out of the way. There is a

:11:41. > :11:45.gateway decision coming in the next 12-18 months, when will you have

:11:46. > :11:50.that debate? The key period will be the next 12 months. Maria Eagle is

:11:51. > :11:55.heading up a debate. We need to have that debate in an open and honest

:11:56. > :12:03.way. It does not send the wrong message. Labour is a party of safety

:12:04. > :12:09.and security and strong defence. It is extraordinary. You have Labour

:12:10. > :12:16.leadership normally crating people in Scotland. Or to getting rid of

:12:17. > :12:22.Trident -- supporting and getting rid of Trident. The Labour

:12:23. > :12:29.leadership wants to scrap Trident. We, in the leadership debate, say

:12:30. > :12:34.the grass roots movement may have a very different view to the PLP. With

:12:35. > :12:39.the greatest respect to Teresa, I have a great deal of respect for

:12:40. > :12:45.her. Within your party, first of all, you are the Government that has

:12:46. > :12:49.presided over very significant cuts to our Armed Forces but also

:12:50. > :12:52.presided over the biggest cut in Europe to our police service, which

:12:53. > :12:56.is putting at risk safety and security where people live and

:12:57. > :13:00.work. I am not sure I will take any lessons from the Tories about

:13:01. > :13:06.safeguarding national security. You are pointing out cuts to

:13:07. > :13:11.conventional full SIS. Can Labour send out a message to the British

:13:12. > :13:16.public that it supports defence, is rock-solid behind defence, but can

:13:17. > :13:21.do so without the nuclear deterrent? We need to have the debate about how

:13:22. > :13:28.we can make bold steps to achieve this. How we might take some bold

:13:29. > :13:34.steps to achieve this. It comes back to the fundamental point, which is,

:13:35. > :13:41.we will never, ever, put at risk the national-security of the British

:13:42. > :13:46.people. Jeremy Corbyn also mentioned there are problems about having a

:13:47. > :13:52.vote on the problems in Syria. He said on television that perhaps

:13:53. > :14:03.Labour needs to revisit taking action over Isis. Mistakes were made

:14:04. > :14:06.in Iraq. No doubt about that. I am open-minded in terms of military

:14:07. > :14:11.intervention in Syria. All I would say is it has to be part of a wider

:14:12. > :14:15.package will stop you cannot stand by and see terrible things happening

:14:16. > :14:19.on the 1 hand. On the other hand, to believe you can resolve this simply

:14:20. > :14:26.by way of military force is to arrive at the wrong conclusion.

:14:27. > :14:32.Thank you. What do you think about the renewal of Trident? Do you back

:14:33. > :14:39.it? At the next stages, the debate will be having, what place does

:14:40. > :14:47.Trident play in defence policies? I have given my answer.

:14:48. > :14:49.Now, free from the compromises of coalition with the

:14:50. > :14:52.Liberal Democrats, and in power with the first Conservative majority

:14:53. > :14:54.government in nearly two decades, the job of Prime Minister should

:14:55. > :14:57.have got a whole lot easier for David Cameron after

:14:58. > :15:00.Well, it hasn't quite worked out that way.

:15:01. > :15:05.Yes, Jo, when David Cameron won an unexpected majority of 12 at the

:15:06. > :15:08.election he might have thought that governing was going to get easier.

:15:09. > :15:11.But the joys of spring have turned into a gloomy

:15:12. > :15:14.autumn for the PM as Conservative MPs get a taste for rebellion.

:15:15. > :15:16.20 Tory MPs - amongst them Tim Loughton and Jacob Rees-Mogg -

:15:17. > :15:19.backed a Labour motion demanding changes to the Government's plans to

:15:20. > :15:34.Then in the Commons on Monday, Zac Goldsmith, Tory candidate for London

:15:35. > :15:37.spoke out against the government's plans to extend right-to-buy.

:15:38. > :15:40.And that evening it was reported that Downing Street had dropped

:15:41. > :15:43.plans for a Commons vote on intervention in Syria, with up to

:15:44. > :15:46.30 Tory MPs said to be lining up to vote against the Government.

:15:47. > :15:48.Today sees the publication of the Investigatory Powers Bill,

:15:49. > :15:51.which we will talk about, with David Davis has been at the forefront of a

:15:52. > :15:54.rebels demanding the Government make concessions.

:15:55. > :15:56.While Lord Strathclyde has begun his tricky task

:15:57. > :15:58.of reviewing the powers of the House of Lords, after peers rejected

:15:59. > :16:11.With all of that even before the Cabinet has started to argue about

:16:12. > :16:13.the UK's membership of the European Mac, this could get potentially dark

:16:14. > :16:23.of the Prime Minister. The Investigatory Powers Bill has

:16:24. > :16:27.been published today and it looks as if judges will be granted the right

:16:28. > :16:34.to administer and anti-terrorism operations. I'm not going to

:16:35. > :16:39.pre-empt what the Prime Minister will say in half an hour. There have

:16:40. > :16:44.been three reviews. The need was felt that the executive to be

:16:45. > :16:44.heavily involved in the authorisation of warrants, while

:16:45. > :16:50.other reviews have suggested that authorisation of warrants, while

:16:51. > :16:58.judicial oversight is needed. Do you agree with the need for judicial

:16:59. > :16:59.oversight, authorisation? Ultimately the panellist and the Home Secretary

:17:00. > :17:02.are accountable to the the panellist and the Home Secretary

:17:03. > :17:07.need to ensure the panellist and the Home Secretary

:17:08. > :17:10.the most intrusive powers the has come all operate in a legal

:17:11. > :17:11.framework has come all operate in a legal

:17:12. > :17:14.Secretary will talk about that has come all operate in a legal

:17:15. > :17:17.later. Just to be has come all operate in a legal

:17:18. > :17:20.think that on the important crucial decisions, it should be a judge that

:17:21. > :17:24.makes this decisions, it should be a judge that

:17:25. > :17:29.the Home Secretary? I don't want to pre-empt anything. There have

:17:30. > :17:32.the Home Secretary? I don't want to disagreements in your party over

:17:33. > :17:39.this and David Davis claims it is could go if the bill is to pass. I

:17:40. > :17:39.believe the panellist and Home Secretary have been looking

:17:40. > :17:43.carefully at Secretary have been looking

:17:44. > :17:46.hasn't been thought of overnight and she will present

:17:47. > :17:49.hasn't been thought of overnight and of Commons shortly. There has been

:17:50. > :17:51.hasn't been thought of overnight and huge listening exercises. It is

:17:52. > :17:54.absolutely clear that are premised and the Home Secretary others

:17:55. > :17:59.responsible for keeping the country safe, not the judges. That sounds

:18:00. > :18:03.like you would be happy for it to remain in the hands of the Home

:18:04. > :18:09.Secretary. If it does not and there is not clear judicial authorisation,

:18:10. > :18:12.will the bill for? That is likely and it would be a tragedy in terms

:18:13. > :18:23.of the safety and security of British people. And don't you come

:18:24. > :18:28.in part. -- down to you, in part. We support the strong powers of the

:18:29. > :18:31.security services, 20% is counterterrorism and 8% is charged

:18:32. > :18:37.sexual exploitation and abuse, paedophile gangs, fraud and grooming

:18:38. > :18:42.online. We need enhanced powers, yes, but those powers need proper

:18:43. > :18:47.judicial safeguards. So you will vote it down if you do not get those

:18:48. > :18:52.judicial safeguards which means you will lose all of it. I think the

:18:53. > :18:57.House of Commons is likely to reach a consensus on this in the next

:18:58. > :19:01.stages. Because we are at one in rising to the threat posed to the

:19:02. > :19:06.people we represents the government must learn from the sorry lessons of

:19:07. > :19:10.history that the people of Britain want safety and security but they

:19:11. > :19:17.will not trust government to exercise those powers. External

:19:18. > :19:20.scrutiny is key. Do you accept David Davis's point that it will not get

:19:21. > :19:26.through without that scrutiny because other Tory rebels will not

:19:27. > :19:30.say yes to it. To be honest I have not paid attention to what David

:19:31. > :19:33.Davis says on this matter, what I am conscious of is that the government

:19:34. > :19:37.has been looking carefully at the different powers, I think it does

:19:38. > :19:40.want to move ahead with the consensus so that we get to this

:19:41. > :19:47.place where we are doing things that will protect the body public. That

:19:48. > :19:53.is one the potential rebellion and has been outlined clearly. We have

:19:54. > :19:57.had the rebellion on tax credits. Syria is looking like a potential

:19:58. > :20:01.problem, we were told they would be a vote on air strikes if there was a

:20:02. > :20:07.genuine consensus. It is clear he cannot get one and that is why we

:20:08. > :20:12.aren't getting the vote. The government is again trying to which

:20:13. > :20:14.a broad consensus, the events of summer 2013 were striking in the

:20:15. > :20:18.House of Commons and it is interesting that a group of Labour

:20:19. > :20:22.MPs had debate earlier in this Parliament, and seemed keen that we

:20:23. > :20:26.should do more in this field. But it is right that the Prime Minister

:20:27. > :20:31.should want to get cross-party support for this. Broad support. It

:20:32. > :20:37.isn't just Labour, the Daily Telegraph is talking about 20 - 30%

:20:38. > :20:41.Tory rebels who are not happy. We have had the report from the

:20:42. > :20:44.Conservative select committee. The Prime Minister's language says he

:20:45. > :20:50.wants to vote and he hasn't got the support. This shouldn't come down to

:20:51. > :20:54.Conservative versus labour. These are serious matters for the nation

:20:55. > :20:58.to address. I think the approach is right. There's no point in coming to

:20:59. > :21:02.the House without that consensus and I am sure that the premised and the

:21:03. > :21:11.Home Secretary will continue to work to achieve that. Will it still be a

:21:12. > :21:16.priority to work for this vote? Tackling Syria is a priority, it's

:21:17. > :21:21.leading to a man or human tragedy, with the migrant situation, my word,

:21:22. > :21:25.we need to tackle the refugee situation. In 2013I was content to

:21:26. > :21:31.vote for additional military intervention. Events keep evolving

:21:32. > :21:36.but fundamentally the Prime Minister has been clear, we need to resolve

:21:37. > :21:41.this situation and it is not having a future for Assad or indeed for

:21:42. > :21:51.Isil. When do you think that food should be? -- that vote? I don't

:21:52. > :21:55.know but it needs to be when the majority of British parliamentarians

:21:56. > :21:59.are ready to say yes. Looking at the refugee situation and the ongoing

:22:00. > :22:08.tragedies in Syria, we need to take decisive action. How would you vote?

:22:09. > :22:12.I could not in conscious roll out military intervention because if you

:22:13. > :22:16.look at the desperate circumstances in Syria that might be appropriate

:22:17. > :22:20.-- I could not rule it out. Yet it needs to be part of a wider

:22:21. > :22:26.diplomatic solution under the auspices of the UN. I voted against

:22:27. > :22:28.in 2013 because it was simply a military initiative. The military

:22:29. > :22:33.initiative alone won't solve the problem. On the other hand, if the

:22:34. > :22:40.government comes with a size of case, seeking to achieve consensus

:22:41. > :22:44.with other countries in the region engaged in finding the solution and

:22:45. > :22:49.says that one element that might be safe havens, we should look at that

:22:50. > :22:54.with an open mind. But and cannot get consensus, because of the

:22:55. > :23:00.leadership, they would not be reliant on the leadership of the

:23:01. > :23:04.backbench MPs. It won't get consensus if they say are you for or

:23:05. > :23:08.against military intervention. I think the House should say, what

:23:09. > :23:14.part should military intervention play in an attempt to find a lasting

:23:15. > :23:19.solution. And the Prime Minister has not said, I need every MP to be with

:23:20. > :23:22.me on this. There will always be people who oppose military

:23:23. > :23:25.intervention come what may, as they do on other matters. Let's not try

:23:26. > :23:33.to isolate this again into being something partisan. Finally on the

:23:34. > :23:37.mood of backbenchers, presumably you interact with them regularly, what's

:23:38. > :23:40.the mood. So many of the new ones seem willing to flex their muscles

:23:41. > :23:47.and cause trouble for the government. The mood is largely

:23:48. > :23:50.positive, we won an election. One topic that often came up in the past

:23:51. > :23:56.was Europe and yet the party is united behind having that referendum

:23:57. > :24:02.in 2017. Some people, come what may, will want to leave the EU. It is a

:24:03. > :24:06.respectable position to take in that regard but I think the majority of

:24:07. > :24:10.people are happy to stay in a reformed European Union. Ultimately

:24:11. > :24:12.the British people will decide. They will indeed.

:24:13. > :24:15.Now every so often a museum fails to grab a masterpiece

:24:16. > :24:19.Over to the V, who have come in for a lot

:24:20. > :24:22.of stick over their refusal to show a collection of Margaret Thatcher's

:24:23. > :24:25.Who wouldn't like a peep inside one of Maggie's bags?

:24:26. > :24:33.I hope your rhyming slang is working! Conservative MPs

:24:34. > :24:36.are said to be outraged by the museum's decision

:24:37. > :24:41.and have called for the collection to be saved.

:24:42. > :24:44.Imagine our surprise when the V called our office, demanding, no

:24:45. > :24:46.less, a Daily Politics Mug for their Fine Decorative China exhibition.

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:26:56. > :26:58.It's coming up to midday here - just take a look at Big Ben -

:26:59. > :27:03.Yes, Prime Minister's Questions is on its way.

:27:04. > :27:09.And that's not all - Laura Kuenssberg is here.

:27:10. > :27:17.Back from gallivanting. In the last ten days I have been to regulate and

:27:18. > :27:23.Berlin because now the government is really starting to try to appear,

:27:24. > :27:28.and also to try generally need to push ahead with renegotiations and

:27:29. > :27:31.our relationship with the EU -- I've been to Iceland. Last week David

:27:32. > :27:36.Cameron pressed the flesh with Nordic leaders in Iceland and

:27:37. > :27:40.yesterday we were with George was born in birding with his

:27:41. > :27:44.counterpart, the German finance minister, -- George Osborne was in

:27:45. > :27:48.Berlin. An important person in German politics. They were pushing

:27:49. > :27:54.forward the agenda. Angela Merkel says she will do everything she can.

:27:55. > :27:59.What that means in practice is more difficult to predict. Indeed it is.

:28:00. > :28:05.But the Treasury were delighted and taken aback by just how fulsome she

:28:06. > :28:08.was in her promise of help. I think there are some things that clearly

:28:09. > :28:12.we know now that are going to be relatively easy for the government

:28:13. > :28:14.to get. Getting rid of ever closer union, for example. A lot of senior

:28:15. > :28:18.figures in Europe are on the record union, for example. A lot of senior

:28:19. > :28:20.as saying, that is OK, we'll union, for example. A lot of senior

:28:21. > :28:22.to clarify that. union, for example. A lot of senior

:28:23. > :28:24.is concerned the tricky thing union, for example. A lot of senior

:28:25. > :28:29.be this idea of union, for example. A lot of senior

:28:30. > :28:33.that they can't put their own interests and of the pound. That

:28:34. > :28:35.will be complicated for Germany in terms of people we spoke to why we

:28:36. > :28:40.were there. In terms of people we spoke to why we

:28:41. > :28:44.wholesale change, things where the public will think, yes, the British

:28:45. > :28:50.governor has won a big concession, does that look likely at this stage?

:28:51. > :28:52.Not at this stage but this is clearly where the government want to

:28:53. > :29:01.take the debate. They've had research done, showing that people

:29:02. > :29:05.are in the middle on this. There are 10% of people on either side who

:29:06. > :29:08.would fight to the death to stay or leave, most people are in the middle

:29:09. > :29:11.and most people are not paying attention to the

:29:12. > :29:14.and most people are not paying really believe that

:29:15. > :29:19.and most people are not paying they will be able to

:29:20. > :29:20.and most people are not paying fighting around one issue or another

:29:21. > :29:25.but the fighting around one issue or another

:29:26. > :29:30.can tie in a ribbon and say, here are these miraculous concessions

:29:31. > :29:32.that we have won from the EU. Interesting that the traditional

:29:33. > :29:37.political tactic is to pick a fight and then you will look like you have

:29:38. > :29:39.one. They haven't got to that point but one

:29:40. > :29:41.one. They haven't got to that point government told me,

:29:42. > :29:45.one. They haven't got to that point it needs his crusade and we are

:29:46. > :29:47.happy to play along with that. We know that there are voices

:29:48. > :29:51.happy to play along with that. We Tory party who will not be happy,

:29:52. > :29:55.come what may. Looking at some of the big issues, what might be raised

:29:56. > :29:55.today at Prime Minister's Questions? There have

:29:56. > :30:01.today at Prime Minister's Questions? rebellions since the start.

:30:02. > :30:06.today at Prime Minister's Questions? certainly have. Bad mood is up. It

:30:07. > :30:12.is in the air. The House of Lords issue around tax credits -- the mood

:30:13. > :30:17.is up. The House of Lords issue has allowed some MPs to feel like

:30:18. > :30:20.rebelling despite being told that it is constitutional outrage. It has

:30:21. > :30:24.changed the mood of the session. People have come back post

:30:25. > :30:28.conference, the Tories had a smooth successful party conference... They

:30:29. > :30:36.feel that the Labour Party is not united and does not know its

:30:37. > :30:40.position. The Tories are certainly not united on the European Union.

:30:41. > :30:44.This is why some Tories worry about them not being a strong united

:30:45. > :30:48.opposition because that can make you feel complacent and you can get

:30:49. > :30:53.involved in your own twists and turns. What will Jeremy Corbyn talk

:30:54. > :30:57.about today. Potentially junior doctors, a very big issue for people

:30:58. > :31:03.around the country. The Department of Health is trying their hardest to

:31:04. > :31:08.that the BMA has captured the agenda on this in a slightly misleading way

:31:09. > :31:11.perhaps. I would not be surprised if Labour raise that today. Or perhaps

:31:12. > :31:16.the visit of the Egyptian leader, talking to David Cameron.

:31:17. > :31:22.Additionally given Jeremy Corbyn's interests in those issues, we heard

:31:23. > :31:27.him talk about Saudi Arabia before. How much pressure is Jeremy Hunt

:31:28. > :31:30.under? In the context of a spending review in three weeks' time, there

:31:31. > :31:32.is Jeremy Hunt under? In the context of the spending review in three

:31:33. > :31:35.weeks' time, there's no new extra money anywhere in government at the

:31:36. > :31:38.moment. I think what he is trying to do is stick to this. Make a deal

:31:39. > :31:44.work without promising any extra cash that he doesn't have. We have

:31:45. > :31:47.seen before, the NHS can very fast become very troublesome for the

:31:48. > :31:52.government. One of the stickiest moments for the coalition was the

:31:53. > :31:57.reform of the NHS under Andrew Lansley. Jeremy Hunt has come to an

:31:58. > :32:01.impasse with the medical profession. Right now it doesn't feel like the

:32:02. > :32:07.bits of government are thinking that he's made a mess and this is

:32:08. > :32:12.damaging him particularly... But... Ballot papers could go out today.

:32:13. > :32:17.Senior government figures believe there will be a strike. They are

:32:18. > :32:21.prepared to have that fight? There is no extra cash. Nowhere for them

:32:22. > :32:27.to go. This slight recalibration of the deal we've seen today is an

:32:28. > :32:31.attempt by Jeremy Hunt to get around the BMA and make this direct appeal

:32:32. > :32:35.to doctors. There is sense in government that there is small

:32:36. > :32:37.motivated group protesting against these changes but they might be able

:32:38. > :32:51.to I know the whole house will join me

:32:52. > :32:54.in paying tribute to those who have fallen serving our country. They

:32:55. > :32:58.gave their lives so we could live hours in freedom. It is right to

:32:59. > :33:02.reflect on Armistice Day and a contribution to all of those who

:33:03. > :33:05.have served our country. This morning I had meetings with

:33:06. > :33:10.ministerial colleagues and others and in addition to my duties in this

:33:11. > :33:15.House I shall have further meetings today. I would like to associate

:33:16. > :33:20.myself with the comments from the Prime Minister. I look forward to

:33:21. > :33:27.joining the Armistice Day parade in my constituency. It has grown to the

:33:28. > :33:30.largest in Britain. Speaking to constituents in Warwickshire, the

:33:31. > :33:36.Government commitment of 2% GDP spending was very welcome. Given

:33:37. > :33:39.volatile state of many parts of the world, it is more important than

:33:40. > :33:46.ever that we maintain that commitment and give rage chew

:33:47. > :33:57.support, resources and commitment available. -- give our brave troops.

:33:58. > :34:01.We live in an uncertain world. The 2% on defence spending and .7% on

:34:02. > :34:06.aid spending helping our security as well as making sure we are a

:34:07. > :34:14.generous and moral nation and having the ultimate insurance policy of a

:34:15. > :34:27.replacement for Trident submarines. Jeremy Corbyn... Thank you, Mr

:34:28. > :34:31.Speaker. I concur with the Prime Minister's marks concerning

:34:32. > :34:36.remembrance -- Sunday and remembrance weekend. We mourn all of

:34:37. > :34:40.those who die in all wars and resolved to build a peaceful future

:34:41. > :34:45.where the next generation does not suffer from billboards of past

:34:46. > :34:49.generations. Last week, I asked the Prime Minister the same question six

:34:50. > :34:55.times and he could not answer. He has had the week to think about it.

:34:56. > :35:00.I want to ask him one more time... Can he guarantee that next April

:35:01. > :35:07.nobody is going to be worse off as a result of cuts to working tax

:35:08. > :35:11.credits? Let me be absolutely clear with the honourable gentleman. What

:35:12. > :35:19.I can guarantee next April as there will be an 11,000 passenger

:35:20. > :35:25.allowance, so you can earn 11,000 before paying tax. There will be a

:35:26. > :35:31.national living wage of ?7 20, giving the lowest paid in our

:35:32. > :35:35.country a ?20 pay rise. On the issue of tax credits, we suffered the

:35:36. > :35:39.defeat in the House of Lords. We suffered the defeat in the House of

:35:40. > :35:43.Lords. With new proposals in the Autumn Statement. At that point, in

:35:44. > :35:48.exactly three weeks' time, I will be able to answer his question. Now, if

:35:49. > :35:57.he wants to spend the next five questions asking it all over again,

:35:58. > :35:59.I am sure he will find it is very entertaining and interesting. How it

:36:00. > :36:05.fits with the new politics, I am not quite sure. Over to you. This is not

:36:06. > :36:12.about entertainment. This is about...

:36:13. > :36:20.This is not funny for people who are desperately worried about what is

:36:21. > :36:23.going to happen next April. If the Prime Minister will not listen to

:36:24. > :36:31.the questions I put, will not listen to the questions that are put by the

:36:32. > :36:35.public, then perhaps the Prime Minister will listen to a question

:36:36. > :36:41.that was raised by his honourable friend, the member for Brigg and

:36:42. > :36:48.Goole, who last week concerning tax credit changes said, the changes

:36:49. > :36:52.cannot go ahead next April and that any mitigation should be for

:36:53. > :36:57.mitigation. What is the Prime Minister's answer to his friend?

:36:58. > :37:03.Very much the same answer that I gave to him. In three weeks' time,

:37:04. > :37:10.we will announce our proposals and he will be able to see what we will

:37:11. > :37:14.do to deliver the high pay, low tax, lower welfare economy we want to

:37:15. > :37:18.see. That is what we need in our country. We are cutting taxes and

:37:19. > :37:23.increasing pay but we also believe it is right to reform welfare. He

:37:24. > :37:28.will have his answer in three weeks' time. Meantime, he had to think

:37:29. > :37:32.about this but if we do not reform welfare, how will we find the police

:37:33. > :37:38.service we are talking about today? How will we find the health service

:37:39. > :37:44.we could be talking about today? How will we paid for the defence forces

:37:45. > :37:48.we are talking about today? The honourable gentleman has been

:37:49. > :37:52.consistent. He has opposed every reform to welfare that has ever come

:37:53. > :37:57.forward. If we listened to him, we would still have families in London

:37:58. > :38:01.getting ?100,000 a year in housing benefit. The answer to the question

:38:02. > :38:09.is, you will find out in three weeks' time. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

:38:10. > :38:13.The reality is that the Prime Minister makes choices and he has

:38:14. > :38:17.made a choice concerning working tax credits that has not worked very

:38:18. > :38:22.well so far. But he must be aware... I give an example. A

:38:23. > :38:27.serving soldier, a private in the Army with two children and a partner

:38:28. > :38:39.would lose over ?2000 next April. I asked the question...

:38:40. > :38:51.The questions will be heard. And the answers will be heard. Simple as

:38:52. > :38:54.that. Mr Jeremy Corbyn... Thank you, Mr Speaker. Surely that is the whole

:38:55. > :39:03.point of our parliament, that we're able to put questions to those

:39:04. > :39:12.authority. And so, I have a question... I have a question from

:39:13. > :39:17.Kieron, a veteran of the first Gulf War. His family are set to lose out.

:39:18. > :39:20.He rides it is a worry for the family. There is fear and

:39:21. > :39:25.trepidation about whether we will be able to get by. Is this how the

:39:26. > :39:30.Government complete -- treats veterans of the armed services? Let

:39:31. > :39:35.me take the case of the serving soldier. Many soldiers, indeed all

:39:36. > :39:38.soldiers, will benefit from the ?11,000 personal allowance that

:39:39. > :39:42.comes in next year. That means they will be able to earn more money

:39:43. > :39:46.before they even start to pay taxes. Serving soldiers with

:39:47. > :39:50.children will benefit from the 30 hours of childcare. Of course,

:39:51. > :39:54.serving soldiers and others will be able to see our proposals on tax

:39:55. > :40:04.credits in exactly three weeks' time. What I would say to the

:40:05. > :40:07.serving soldier is that he is now dealing with an opposition party,

:40:08. > :40:09.the leader of which, said he could not see any use for UK forces

:40:10. > :40:12.anywhere in the world at any time. That serving soldier would not have

:40:13. > :40:21.a job if the honourable gentleman got anywhere near power.

:40:22. > :40:30.Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can I invite the Prime Minister to cast his mind

:40:31. > :40:36.to another area of public service that is causing acute concern at the

:40:37. > :40:40.present time? I know he is trying to dig himself out of the hole with the

:40:41. > :40:47.junior doctors offer this morning which you await the detail. There is

:40:48. > :40:52.a question I want to put to him. I quote Doctor Cliff man, the

:40:53. > :40:56.president of the Royal College of emergency medicine. He said that

:40:57. > :41:02.this winter will be worse than last winter. Last winter was the worst

:41:03. > :41:06.winter we have ever had in the NHS. Can the Prime Minister guarantee

:41:07. > :41:15.there will be no winter crisis in the NHS this year? First of all,

:41:16. > :41:19.when it comes to the Royal College of emergency medicine, they actually

:41:20. > :41:23.support what we are saying about a seven-day NHS and the junior doctors

:41:24. > :41:27.contract. He says, wait for the detail. I would urge anyone in this

:41:28. > :41:30.House and detail. I would urge anyone in this

:41:31. > :41:33.watching to go on to detail. I would urge anyone in this

:41:34. > :41:36.of Health website and look at the pay calculator. You will be able to

:41:37. > :41:47.see that no 1 working legal hours will lose out in any way at all. It

:41:48. > :41:50.is an 11% basic pay rise. Deliver is the stronger and safer NHS. As for

:41:51. > :41:51.the state of our NHS more generally, it is benefiting from ?10 billion

:41:52. > :41:56.that we put in it is benefiting from ?10 billion

:41:57. > :41:58.Labour Party at last election said they did not support. I believe the

:41:59. > :42:03.NHS has the resources they did not support. I believe the

:42:04. > :42:07.needs. That is why we are seeing it treating more patients with more

:42:08. > :42:11.needs. That is why we are seeing it delivered, more tests being carried

:42:12. > :42:15.out. It is a much stronger NHS and the reason is simple. We have a

:42:16. > :42:23.strong economy supporting our strong NHS. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

:42:24. > :42:24.strong economy supporting our strong that the Prime Minister has not

:42:25. > :42:29.offered any comment whatsoever that the Prime Minister has not

:42:30. > :42:31.the Windsor crisis -- the winter crisis of last year and what will

:42:32. > :42:55.happen this year. Mr Speaker... Order, order! The

:42:56. > :43:00.leader of the position is entitled to ask questions without a barrage

:43:01. > :43:05.of noise. The Prime Minister is entitled to answer questions without

:43:06. > :43:12.a barrage of noise. That is what the public is entitled to expect. Mr

:43:13. > :43:17.Jeremy Corbyn... If the Prime Minister will not answer questions

:43:18. > :43:22.that I'd put, then I quote to him, the renowned King's Fund, which has

:43:23. > :43:28.enormous expertise in NHS funding and NHS Administration, and I quote,

:43:29. > :43:33.the national health service cannot continue to maintain standards of

:43:34. > :43:36.care and balance the books. A rapid and serious decline in patient care

:43:37. > :43:42.is inevitable unless something is done. Could I ask the Prime

:43:43. > :43:49.Minister, which is rising faster? NHS waiting lists or NHS deficits?

:43:50. > :43:53.Let me deal directly with the Kings fund. What we have done on this side

:43:54. > :43:58.of the house is the point in new chief executive to the NHS, Mr Simon

:43:59. > :44:01.Stephens where he worked under the last Labour government and did a

:44:02. > :44:05.very good job for them. He produced the Stevens plan which he said

:44:06. > :44:09.required ?8 billion of government funding. We are putting in ?10

:44:10. > :44:16.billion behind that plan. That is the plan we are producing. The

:44:17. > :44:20.results you can see, we have 1.3 million more operations, 7.8 million

:44:21. > :44:25.more outpatient appointments and 4.7 million more diagnostic tests. What

:44:26. > :44:27.is going up in the NHS is a number of treatments, the number of

:44:28. > :44:32.successful outcomes. He wants to know who is heading for a winter

:44:33. > :44:37.crisis. I would predict it is the Labour Party that is heading for a

:44:38. > :44:43.winter crisis. Look at his appointments! His media adviser is a

:44:44. > :44:47.Stalinist. His new policy advisor is a Trotskyist and his economic

:44:48. > :44:52.adviser is a Communist was the busiest trying to move the Labour

:44:53. > :44:57.Party to the left, I give him full marks. -- a Communist. If he is

:44:58. > :45:04.trying to move the Labour Party to the left, I give him full marks. Mr

:45:05. > :45:08.Speaker, the issue I raised with the Prime Minister was the national

:45:09. > :45:13.health service. In case he had forgotten. I would like to remind

:45:14. > :45:22.him that since he took office in 2010, the English waiting list is up

:45:23. > :45:29.by a third. There are now 3.5 million people, 3.5 million people

:45:30. > :45:33.waiting for treatment in the NHS. If his party cannot match its actions

:45:34. > :45:41.by its words, then I put this to him. Will he just get rid? The NHS

:45:42. > :45:46.is in a problem. It is in a problem of deficit in many hospitals, a

:45:47. > :45:50.problem of waiting lists, a problem of the financial crisis that has

:45:51. > :45:55.been faced with so many others. Can he now addressed that issue and

:45:56. > :45:58.ensure that everyone in this country can rely on the NHS which is surely

:45:59. > :46:11.the jewel in all of our crowns? Since I became premise, let me tell

:46:12. > :46:19.him what has happened since then. The number of doctors up by 10,500,

:46:20. > :46:25.the number of nurses up by 5800, fewer patients waiting to start

:46:26. > :46:30.treatment than under Labour, we have seen mixed sex wards virtually

:46:31. > :46:35.abolished and seen rates of hospital infection plummet. It's happened for

:46:36. > :46:39.a reason. Because we've had a strong economy and some of the strongest

:46:40. > :46:43.growth anywhere in the world, because we have unemployment

:46:44. > :46:48.falling, inflation on the floor, we are able to fund an NHS whereas the

:46:49. > :46:52.countries that he admires all over the world with their crazy socialist

:46:53. > :46:59.plans cut their health service and that the people who need their help

:47:00. > :47:07.the most! -- they hurt the people who need their help the most. The

:47:08. > :47:14.UK's Internet economy is much the largest of the T20 nations at 12.4%

:47:15. > :47:18.of GDP but as consumers move online soda criminals. Does the Prime

:47:19. > :47:21.Minister agree that the Investigatory Powers Bill must give

:47:22. > :47:26.our security services the powers they need to keep us safe, whilst

:47:27. > :47:31.ensuring that proper controls exist on how we use those powers? My

:47:32. > :47:35.honourable friend is absolutely right to raise this. It is one of

:47:36. > :47:40.the most important bills that this House were discussed. It is going

:47:41. > :47:43.through pre-legislative scrutiny. The Home Secretary today will set

:47:44. > :47:49.out very clearly what this bill is about and why it is necessary. Let

:47:50. > :47:54.me make one some ballpoint. Communications data, the who called

:47:55. > :47:58.who and when of Telecom allegations has been absolutely vital in

:47:59. > :48:02.catching rapists, child abductors and solving other crimes. The

:48:03. > :48:15.question before us is, do we need that data when people are using

:48:16. > :48:18.social media to commit those crimes rather than a mobile phone. My

:48:19. > :48:20.answer is yes, we must help the police and our security and

:48:21. > :48:24.intelligence services to keep us safe. Mr Angus Robertson. Think you,

:48:25. > :48:29.Mr Speaker. This week when remember all the sacrifices from past and

:48:30. > :48:33.present conflicts and show respect to veterans and service families.

:48:34. > :48:36.Does the Prime Minister agree that everything must be done to deliver

:48:37. > :48:45.on the military covenant, of the spirit and the letter? I agree with

:48:46. > :48:48.both parts of the question, these remembrance services are important

:48:49. > :48:51.up and down the country and the military covenant is one of the most

:48:52. > :48:55.important things we have where we make a promise to our military that

:48:56. > :48:59.because of the sacrifices they make on our behalf, they should not have

:49:00. > :49:03.less good treatment than other good people in this country, and indeed

:49:04. > :49:06.where we can we should provide extra support. This is the first

:49:07. > :49:12.government to put the military government properly into law --

:49:13. > :49:16.military covenant and every year to improve it whether by hospital

:49:17. > :49:22.treatment, free transport, council tax discount, and so many other

:49:23. > :49:26.things, and we report on it every. Mr Angus Robertson. Is the Prime

:49:27. > :49:31.Minister aware that many service widows continue to be deprived of

:49:32. > :49:34.their forces pensions if there is a change in their personal

:49:35. > :49:38.circumstances? Does he agree that this is a clear breach in the spirit

:49:39. > :49:45.of the military covenant and what will he do to rectify this wrong? We

:49:46. > :49:49.made a big change, last, I think, around Armistice Day, to make sure

:49:50. > :49:53.that many people to Schmeichel last year, to make sure that people who

:49:54. > :49:58.had remarried could get pensions. The big step forward welcomed by

:49:59. > :50:02.British Legion. If we need to take further steps I am very happy to

:50:03. > :50:07.look at them and see what be done. I remember that in the last budget we

:50:08. > :50:11.looked at the case of police widows and tried to put right their

:50:12. > :50:20.situation as well. Doctor James Davis. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Will a

:50:21. > :50:24.Prime Minister joined me in congratulating Prestatyn, which is a

:50:25. > :50:29.finalist in the great British high street awards? And will he confirm

:50:30. > :50:35.whether the UK's government will hold discussions with the Welsh

:50:36. > :50:39.assembly have and which is about the division of business rates councils

:50:40. > :50:43.to Wales so that other times in my constituency have a better

:50:44. > :50:49.opportunity to regenerate? -- other towns. I do join him in

:50:50. > :50:54.congratulating Prestatyn. I don't know if it is in the same category

:50:55. > :50:57.as my hometown of Chipping Norton which has also been nominated so I

:50:58. > :51:03.might have a conflict of interest. What I would say is, in Wales,

:51:04. > :51:07.business rates is a devolved issue but it's open to the Welsh

:51:08. > :51:11.government, should they choose to take our approach of devolving that

:51:12. > :51:12.business rate income directly to local councils so that local

:51:13. > :51:16.councils have a better connection local councils so that local

:51:17. > :51:19.between the money they raise and the decisions they make to attract

:51:20. > :51:26.business investment and industry to their area. I went to Cheltenham

:51:27. > :51:29.ladies College and the Prime Minister went to Eton. Both schools

:51:30. > :51:33.which invest Minister went to Eton. Both schools

:51:34. > :51:38.teaching and facilities for music, dance, arts and drama. Yet while

:51:39. > :51:44.he's been Prime Minister, the schools which educate 92% of our

:51:45. > :51:48.pupils have cut teachers in those subjects. Will his legacy be that

:51:49. > :51:55.Britain stopped being a world leader in creative and cultural industries

:51:56. > :51:59.and becomes an also-ran? I do not accept that. And if you look at

:52:00. > :52:02.school funding, it has been protected under this government

:52:03. > :52:05.school funding, it has been we want to continue protecting it.

:52:06. > :52:10.What I will make no apology for is the clear focus we have on getting

:52:11. > :52:18.the basics right in schools. It's absolutely essential that we get

:52:19. > :52:18.more children learning the basic subjects and getting basic

:52:19. > :52:22.qualifications. And then subjects and getting basic

:52:23. > :52:25.that it is more possible to put in place the arts, dance and drama that

:52:26. > :52:33.I want my children to have as they go to their schools. Damian Collins.

:52:34. > :52:37.The Channel Tunnel and the Port of Dover are major pieces of lateral

:52:38. > :52:41.infrastructure but when there are disruptions to services it causes

:52:42. > :52:44.chaos on the roads of Kent. As the government computers work on the

:52:45. > :52:49.spending review will the Prime Minister gives special consideration

:52:50. > :52:53.to the need for an urgent long-term solution to Operation Stack? I

:52:54. > :52:57.absolutely recognise the serious problems caused to Kent residents

:52:58. > :53:02.and businesses when it was necessary to put into place Operation Stack.

:53:03. > :53:05.We've ready and permitted short-term measures to reduce the impact

:53:06. > :53:09.including the temporary availability of one every and is contingency

:53:10. > :53:13.measure. I know he met with the Chancellor and other Kent MPs and

:53:14. > :53:18.we're happy to build on this work. I understand the pressures and we will

:53:19. > :53:21.do all we to relieve them. May I associate myself with the

:53:22. > :53:23.do all we to relieve them. May I the Prime Minister made about what

:53:24. > :53:25.will happen this weekend and also his comments he made to the leader

:53:26. > :53:27.of the SNP. God his comments he made to the leader

:53:28. > :53:35.about the fact that thousands of his comments he made to the leader

:53:36. > :53:39.people who served in the royal navy before 1987 are not entitled to full

:53:40. > :53:46.compensation, this means that people who have been exposed to disease

:53:47. > :53:52.stand to lose out massively compared with people in civilian life to the

:53:53. > :53:57.extent that some idiot who's been exposed in industry could get

:53:58. > :54:02.?150,000 in compensation, and it is probable that a service person will

:54:03. > :54:05.only get ?31,000. This is clearly a moral outrage as well as being in

:54:06. > :54:12.breach... moral outrage as well as being in

:54:13. > :54:16.honourable gentleman for raising this issue. I understand the Defence

:54:17. > :54:18.Secretary is looking at it. Since putting in place the military

:54:19. > :54:24.covenant with tried every year to make progress, whether to do with

:54:25. > :54:27.widows or with different groups disadvantaged in some way. I am

:54:28. > :54:36.happy to look at the points he makes. Thank you, Mr Speaker. At the

:54:37. > :54:41.Royal Society, they've identified the need for 1 million scientists,

:54:42. > :54:46.engineers and technical professionals by 2020. One way to

:54:47. > :54:46.bridge the skills grab is an increase in

:54:47. > :54:52.bridge the skills grab is an apprenticeships like the ones in

:54:53. > :54:56.Basildon. -- the skills gap. Yet for every one place available 20 people

:54:57. > :55:02.apply. Will my right honourable friend redouble his efforts to meet

:55:03. > :55:05.our commitment to 2 million new apprenticeships? This target is

:55:06. > :55:09.essential and I believe we can achieve it. Going back to questions

:55:10. > :55:13.from the Honourable member for Slough one way will achieve it is by

:55:14. > :55:15.making sure that more young people have the qualifications necessary to

:55:16. > :55:21.apply for an apprenticeship will stop many firms find that a lot of

:55:22. > :55:25.people apply but when you look at the people who don't have a

:55:26. > :55:30.qualification in English and maths and becomes down. I'm delighted to

:55:31. > :55:35.announce that in terms of advice and apprenticeships, to make sure we

:55:36. > :55:38.work with businesses to get this target, the Right Honourable member

:55:39. > :55:41.for structure and maven is going to take the place of the Right

:55:42. > :55:45.Honourable member for Watford who is moved on to other things -- the

:55:46. > :55:49.Right Honourable member for Stratford-upon-Avon. He is going to

:55:50. > :55:54.help me make sure we deliver on this. My constituents in Blackpool

:55:55. > :56:00.face a 11 me on police cuts from the spending review and the new Home

:56:01. > :56:04.Office formula which tops ?45 million of Lancashire Police. I ask

:56:05. > :56:08.him whether a cross-party letter from the MPs of like a ship, one

:56:09. > :56:12.from my neighbourhood watch group, one from other commissions, mostly

:56:13. > :56:16.Tories, and the Chief Constable, all saying that the process is flawed,

:56:17. > :56:24.how many blue lights must he have before we had meltdown? Let me say,

:56:25. > :56:29.the reforms to the police funding formula is a consultation on which

:56:30. > :56:33.no decisions have been taken. Mayo congratulate the luxuries to him

:56:34. > :56:38.because crime is down in Blackpool by 5% -- May I congratulate the like

:56:39. > :56:47.should police. Funding for the Lancashire Police is the same in

:56:48. > :56:50.cash terms as 2003. Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary found

:56:51. > :56:54.that Lancashire Constabulary is exceptionally well prepared to face

:56:55. > :57:00.its future financial requirements. That is the view of HMI sea. In a

:57:01. > :57:04.country where crime however you measure it has fallen significantly

:57:05. > :57:13.since this government took office. Annemarie Trevelyan. Thank you, Mr

:57:14. > :57:16.Speaker. My constituent, one of the UK's leading burns specialists went

:57:17. > :57:20.on Monday to Bucharest to help Romanian medical teams dealing with

:57:21. > :57:25.the nightclub fire. I understand that there are 150 patients in need

:57:26. > :57:30.of critical care and only 25 beds in big rest. She has asked if the Prime

:57:31. > :57:34.Minister will consider offering practical medical assistance to

:57:35. > :57:39.these victims by allowing the use of UK burns facilities for their

:57:40. > :57:43.treatment. I think my honourable friend is right to raise this tragic

:57:44. > :57:46.event that happened in big rest last Friday. All our thoughts are with

:57:47. > :57:50.the victims and their families. I'm pleased to hear about the visit of

:57:51. > :57:53.this doctor and herself was work. It's a very good suggestion to look

:57:54. > :57:59.that if we can offer specialist help and I will take it away and see what

:58:00. > :58:03.can be done. The Prime Minister will understand the heartbreak at the

:58:04. > :58:09.death of a child. For parents not to know what has happened to the ashes

:58:10. > :58:13.of that child, as is the case with Mike and Tina troll hill in Hull and

:58:14. > :58:18.other families around the country must be very cruel. Will the Prime

:58:19. > :58:22.Minister agree to meet Mike and Tina to discuss why we need national and

:58:23. > :58:28.local inquiry as to what happened in that case around baby ashes? Paige

:58:29. > :58:31.are completely understand how her constituents feel. This must have

:58:32. > :58:35.been an absolutely tragic event, made worse by not knowing what has

:58:36. > :58:40.happened to their child. I am very happy to arrange that meeting. I am

:58:41. > :58:46.not aware of this case. Let me look at it and see what I can do.

:58:47. > :58:54.I was delighted that the Chancellor chose our county city of York to

:58:55. > :58:57.launch the new national infrastructure commission. Could the

:58:58. > :59:00.Prime Minister confirm that this is the start of a new era where

:59:01. > :59:04.important investment decisions like roads and railways between the

:59:05. > :59:11.cities of the North will help to bring growth to our region? My

:59:12. > :59:14.friend Mike is right to raise this. People in Yorkshire have long felt

:59:15. > :59:20.that there has not been a fair in a deal in terms of transport funding

:59:21. > :59:24.on roads and rail. And I think that people can now see that ?13 billion

:59:25. > :59:28.is being spent on transport in the North as part of our plan to

:59:29. > :59:34.rebalance the British economy. We've committed more than 4.8 ?3 on road

:59:35. > :59:39.improvements and we are still improving the a 64, vital for York,

:59:40. > :59:42.and we will look at what more we can do to make sure this vital part of

:59:43. > :59:50.the economy has the transport links it needs. John Nicholson. Thank you,

:59:51. > :59:54.Mr Speaker, on the ninth these extreme state for culture media and

:59:55. > :00:01.sport told the select committee that there were no plans to sell Channel

:00:02. > :00:04.4. -- the Secretary of State said that. Can the Prime Minister confirm

:00:05. > :00:10.that that is the government 's position that there are no

:00:11. > :00:16.initiatives underway to privatise this important and much loved public

:00:17. > :00:21.institution. I'm a big fan of Channel 4, it was a great

:00:22. > :00:23.Conservative innovation. A combination of fully why slow and

:00:24. > :00:28.Margaret Thatcher that helped to bring Channel 4 to our screens. --

:00:29. > :00:33.Willie Whitelaw and Margaret Thatcher. I'm a big fan. I wanted to

:00:34. > :00:38.have a strong, secure future. I think it's right to look at all the

:00:39. > :00:42.options to see of private investment into the channel could help to

:00:43. > :00:48.safeguard and the future. Let's look at the options. Let's not our minds,

:00:49. > :00:52.like some on the opposition front bench, let's not close our minds,

:00:53. > :00:56.they think that private is bad and public is good. Let's have a proper

:00:57. > :01:04.look at how to make sure this great channel goes on being great for

:01:05. > :01:09.years to come. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Everyone who has had any

:01:10. > :01:13.contact with the adoption process will be familiar with the

:01:14. > :01:17.frustration that are necessary delays can cause to prospective

:01:18. > :01:22.parents. Would the Prime Minister take action to speed up the adoption

:01:23. > :01:27.process so that more children can be placed with the right families more

:01:28. > :01:32.quickly? Benchmark my friend Mike is right to raise this. We've seen a

:01:33. > :01:38.72% increase in the number of Jordan adopted and the waiting time on

:01:39. > :01:43.average has fallen by five months. -- children adopted. Toulon, yet if

:01:44. > :01:48.you look across the 150 councils responsible, 68 of them have no

:01:49. > :01:50.mechanisms for early placement, where you run fostering and adoption

:01:51. > :01:56.alongside each other. If we could introduce that, not least to our

:01:57. > :01:59.regional adoption agencies that will establish, many more children will

:02:00. > :02:08.get the warm and loving home we want for them. On Armistice Day will the

:02:09. > :02:13.prime ministers that thought for the 633 of our bravest and best who died

:02:14. > :02:20.as a result of two political mistakes. 179 in pursuit of

:02:21. > :02:27.non-existent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 454 who died

:02:28. > :02:35.in the Helmand province inclusion that promised that no shot will be

:02:36. > :02:40.fired. Will he rethink his own plan to order more of our brave soldiers

:02:41. > :02:48.to put their lives on the line in the chaos and confusion of a 4-sided

:02:49. > :02:53.civil war in Syria? I have great respect for the honourable gentleman

:02:54. > :02:57.but with great respect, on Armistice Day we should put aside political

:02:58. > :03:02.questions about conflicts and decisions made, and simply remember

:03:03. > :03:06.the men and women who put on a uniform, went and served and risked

:03:07. > :03:12.their lives on our behalf. Let's make Armistice Day about that, not

:03:13. > :03:20.about other questions. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The last week has been a

:03:21. > :03:26.very good one for Cornwall airport in Newquay with the scrapping of the

:03:27. > :03:30.development fee which was an additional tax on passages and a

:03:31. > :03:35.barrier to growth, the enactment of new air links that link Cornwall to

:03:36. > :03:41.mainland Europe, and the upgrading of the Gatwick limp with the support

:03:42. > :03:45.of the PSL. Will the Prime Minister join me in congratulating the team

:03:46. > :03:51.at Newquay airport for their work in supporting the Cornish economy? I am

:03:52. > :03:56.a huge fan of Newquay airport and a frequent user. The government made a

:03:57. > :03:59.series of promises about helping the airport to make sure that vital

:04:00. > :04:03.connectivity between Cornwall and the rest of the country and

:04:04. > :04:10.continental Europe is there and I am delighted it's so well. Norman Lamb.

:04:11. > :04:11.continental Europe is there and I am Can I thank the Prime Minister for

:04:12. > :04:17.his welcome... Order! I want to Can I thank the Prime Minister for

:04:18. > :04:22.share this question. Mr Lamb? Can I thank the Prime Minister for

:04:23. > :04:24.Mac can I thank the Prime Minister for his welcome for the campaign

:04:25. > :04:29.launched this for his welcome for the campaign

:04:30. > :04:32.from across society joined the Right Honourable

:04:33. > :04:33.from across society joined the Right Coldfield, Alistair Campbell, and

:04:34. > :04:36.me, in Coldfield, Alistair Campbell, and

:04:37. > :04:38.those suffering from mental ill-health. The truth is that those

:04:39. > :04:41.who ill-health. The truth is that those

:04:42. > :04:42.the same rights ill-health. The truth is that those

:04:43. > :04:49.as others enjoy in moral and economic case for ending

:04:50. > :04:52.overwhelming. Will the Prime moral and economic case for ending

:04:53. > :04:56.Minister do what it takes to make sure

:04:57. > :05:02.Minister do what it takes to make delivers the investment, the extra

:05:03. > :05:05.deliver genuine equality? Let me say to the honourable gentleman, who did

:05:06. > :05:09.a lot of work on this in the last Parliament, I very much welcome the

:05:10. > :05:13.campaign and what they want to achieve. We set out in the NHS

:05:14. > :05:18.Constitution parity between mental and physical health and we have

:05:19. > :05:21.taken steps towards that for example by introducing the first time

:05:22. > :05:25.waiting times and proper targets for talking therapies. There are now

:05:26. > :05:27.twice as many people undergoing those that abuse as there were five

:05:28. > :05:30.years ago. I those that abuse as there were five

:05:31. > :05:37.there is more to do in those that abuse as there were five

:05:38. > :05:44.committed to doing so. Andrew Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:45. > :05:47.from the gentleman from Norfolk Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:48. > :05:50.North, I want to emphasise that this Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:51. > :05:52.agree that there's now Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:53. > :05:57.opportunity to build on Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:58. > :06:03.widespread support across all parts of society, and end historic

:06:04. > :06:09.injustice between the treatment of mental health and the physical

:06:10. > :06:13.illness. My honourable friend is absolutely right. We are investing

:06:14. > :06:16.more in mental health than ever. We will spend in 11.4 billion in this

:06:17. > :06:21.financial year and will spend in 11.4 billion in this

:06:22. > :06:25.group to make sure real terms increases in their investment in

:06:26. > :06:29.mental health services so it can't be treated as the Cinderella service

:06:30. > :06:34.that has sometimes been the case in the past. If we do that, and also

:06:35. > :06:38.deal with some of the other issues like mental health patients being

:06:39. > :06:47.held in police cells, we can have a far better system for dealing with

:06:48. > :06:53.mental health in this country. Thank you Mr Speaker. After the

:06:54. > :06:56.announcement of job losses in Northern Ireland, one factor has

:06:57. > :07:00.been high energy costs, will the Prime Minister work with the

:07:01. > :07:04.Northern Ireland energy initiative to address these issues as a matter

:07:05. > :07:08.of urgency. For people who are currently in work in Northern

:07:09. > :07:12.Ireland and are very worried about the impact of cutting working tax

:07:13. > :07:16.credits. Given that the Prime Minister and the Chancellor are in

:07:17. > :07:19.the same mode and showing a surprising degree of flexibility

:07:20. > :07:23.across a range of issues recently will he refers the first of the

:07:24. > :07:29.policy and remove the threat against working families in Northern Ireland

:07:30. > :07:34.and across the country? First of all, on the issue of industries, if

:07:35. > :07:43.a company horrifies as part of the energy intensive industries, it will

:07:44. > :07:46.see a reduction in its bill,, and the second point I would make to

:07:47. > :07:50.Northern Ireland is that we have passed in this House historic

:07:51. > :07:53.legislation to allow Northern Ireland to set its own rate of

:07:54. > :07:57.corporation tax and the sooner we can put together all the elements of

:07:58. > :08:01.the Stormont has agreement, the sooner Northern Ireland will be able

:08:02. > :08:04.to take action to build a stronger private sector in Northern Ireland

:08:05. > :08:09.which is what I want to see. On the issue of tax credits, I give the

:08:10. > :08:12.same answer. He will know in three weeks. He also knows that people

:08:13. > :08:17.working in that business or in others will be able to an ?11,000

:08:18. > :08:24.before they pay taxes, get more help with childcare and have a higher

:08:25. > :08:27.wage. We will keep welfare costs under control so that we can build

:08:28. > :08:40.great public services. Prime Minister's Questions started

:08:41. > :08:44.late and ended even later. It ended on tax credits. A question from

:08:45. > :08:48.Nigel Dodds. Jeremy Corbyn kicked off with tax credits would he

:08:49. > :08:52.referred back to the fact he used his six questions last week on tax

:08:53. > :08:55.credits to then proceed again to try to pin down the Prime Minister on

:08:56. > :09:00.whether anyone would be worse off as a result of the tax credit changes.

:09:01. > :09:04.That followed rebellion and defeat in the House of Lords. The first

:09:05. > :09:12.three questions on that issue. Jeremy Corbyn moved on to junior

:09:13. > :09:15.doctors before then trying to test the Government record on health with

:09:16. > :09:20.his final two questions. It was a slightly awkward and uncomfortable

:09:21. > :09:24.start to Prime Minister's Questions. There was a lot of barracking to

:09:25. > :09:28.Jeremy Corbyn, who just talking before continuing on. The Prime

:09:29. > :09:31.Minister responded on the tax credit issue with, you will have to wait

:09:32. > :09:34.and see. We have the Autumn Statement and the spending review

:09:35. > :09:38.coming up in a few weeks' time. That is where we will find out whether

:09:39. > :09:42.there will be money splashed out to try to mitigate some of the changes

:09:43. > :09:47.to tax credits. Another change in tactics from Jeremy Corbyn was

:09:48. > :09:55.instead of quoting members of the public, he used experts. The Kings

:09:56. > :09:59.fund, a medical expert, to try to put the Prime Minister under

:10:00. > :10:03.pressure. The Prime Minister did not feel as much under pressure this

:10:04. > :10:07.week as he did last week. There were a couple of questions, one from

:10:08. > :10:11.Angus Robertson on the military covenant about whether the Prime

:10:12. > :10:15.Minister and government are committed to that in spirit. One or

:10:16. > :10:20.two questions at the end from Norman Lamb, a Liberal Democrat, and Andrew

:10:21. > :10:55.Mitchell, the Conservative MP. It was about mental health. This was

:10:56. > :11:09.the weakest performance. He looked like a typical politician trying to

:11:10. > :11:14.score Picking up on what you said about tactics, I have been watching

:11:15. > :11:20.PMQs. I am fed up with the shouting and heckling on the backbench side.

:11:21. > :11:26.Isn't it time the cameras turned on the offenders? It might make them

:11:27. > :11:30.behave much better. Ed Miliband used to try to ride through the barrage

:11:31. > :11:35.of it stops and it does have an effect. On the performance of Jeremy

:11:36. > :11:41.Corbyn with the change in tone and tactic, especially health. It felt a

:11:42. > :11:46.little bit faltering. Some of the ways in which he asked the

:11:47. > :11:50.questions, particularly on the NHS. These are important issues. Not

:11:51. > :11:54.necessarily that focus. We know over the years, we watch PMQs, the way

:11:55. > :12:02.you make progress on the way you punch through the political defences

:12:03. > :12:08.of the Prime Minister is by going specific and repeating specific

:12:09. > :12:17.questions and demands. You do not really get that far. It seemed like

:12:18. > :12:27.a strange PMQs. Neither of them were up for the dance today David Cameron

:12:28. > :12:35.said it is getting longer and longer. Part of the energy of these

:12:36. > :12:40.sessions is, you are on the clock, it is a deadline. It felt flabby.

:12:41. > :12:45.John Bercow is allowing lots of questions Jeremy Corbyn has an

:12:46. > :12:49.effective tactic of just stopping when the backbenches are getting

:12:50. > :12:53.incredibly rowdy. That does happen quite a lot of times and gives it a

:12:54. > :12:58.very different mood. Members of the public think it is quite right to do

:12:59. > :13:01.that. Let's move on to the spending review and the Autumn Statement. A

:13:02. > :13:06.lot of that was pushed to, let's see what happens in a few weeks' time.

:13:07. > :13:10.What can people expect? Three weeks today the Chancellor sets out a

:13:11. > :13:17.number of plans. It adds more flesh to the different investment

:13:18. > :13:20.programmes. Will he mitigate the tax credit changes? He said he will

:13:21. > :13:25.listen to concerns being raised and come back to it. We are committed to

:13:26. > :13:30.welfare spending by 12 William pounds and increasing wages and

:13:31. > :13:38.lowering taxes. What will happen with this? -- ?12 million. There

:13:39. > :13:41.will be some kind of mitigation. Worth remarking on a quite

:13:42. > :13:47.significant bus stop that is going on about it with the Chancellor

:13:48. > :13:53.trying to raid the budget of Iain Duncan-Smith's beloveds programme of

:13:54. > :13:56.universal credit. This is the huge, super programme of welfare which is

:13:57. > :14:00.supposed to take over from welfare payments. It has been said that the

:14:01. > :14:07.Chancellor is quite up nicking some of the cash, a couple of million

:14:08. > :14:18.through universal credits. A few sharp words. That would be a very

:14:19. > :14:21.problematic way. The comment made by David Cameron, he has voted against

:14:22. > :14:26.welfare changes. Any proposals where there is a huge amount of money

:14:27. > :14:29.spent which could be spent on other things, particularly non-protected

:14:30. > :14:35.departments. You'll agree you need to bring the cost of welfare down.

:14:36. > :14:40.What you will have is fewer people claiming housing benefit than we

:14:41. > :14:46.have at the moment. In the here and now, 82% of children in Addington

:14:47. > :14:51.are being brought up in families where tax credit is really matter to

:14:52. > :14:55.them. I think it is absolutely wrong he has made this move. It does not

:14:56. > :14:59.surprise me there has been a reaction to it against the political

:15:00. > :15:05.-- across the political spectrum. Another issue that PMQs today, the

:15:06. > :15:10.Prime Minister brushed aside the concerns being expressed by Gordon

:15:11. > :15:17.Marsden over the police. Not true that violent crime is falling,

:15:18. > :15:23.sexual crime and suchlike is up. Just two weeks ago, what was

:15:24. > :15:30.reported on was there would be 5 million crimes of fraud online and

:15:31. > :15:35.cyber crime. You would see statistics showing a 40% increase

:15:36. > :15:39.will stop most important of all, if you cut 17,000 police officers and a

:15:40. > :15:44.further 22,000 police officers, it will put the public at risk. When

:15:45. > :15:48.you went to the people of your constituency in Suffolk, back in

:15:49. > :15:54.May, did you say, vote for me and I will cut 22,000 police officers? I

:15:55. > :15:59.will tell you what I said. I will stand on a platform to balance the

:16:00. > :16:02.books we start to pay down the debt that Labour ballooned when they were

:16:03. > :16:07.in office was the public has the second lowest funding per head with

:16:08. > :16:11.police. 29 forces at the moment will benefit. 13 will reduce the debt has

:16:12. > :16:15.led to changes that Suffolk police and others have responded. It makes

:16:16. > :16:23.common sense for fire stations and police stations to be one building,

:16:24. > :16:28.not separate. It has not been done. The problem generally is the low

:16:29. > :16:32.hanging fruit has gone. Where will it come from? All of the back

:16:33. > :16:37.office, the tax avoidance, surely it went in the first five years of the

:16:38. > :16:42.Coalition Government? That has been taken into account. Where will it

:16:43. > :16:48.go? You will have seen a change with police and crime commissioners. They

:16:49. > :16:51.bring in ideas without affecting the operation. Those low hanging fruit

:16:52. > :16:59.are quite difficult and have not been done.

:17:00. > :17:07.a chorus of voices have said simply this, from London to Lancashire,

:17:08. > :17:09.chief constables are saying that we can no longer guaranteed public

:17:10. > :17:15.safety of the government proceeds with cuts on this scale.

:17:16. > :17:21.Non-protected departments are really going to be hit. Behind the scenes

:17:22. > :17:26.that are epic battles between ministers and the Treasury about

:17:27. > :17:30.where they will find their cuts between 25 and 40%. Some people

:17:31. > :17:35.believe the easy savings went between 2010 and 2015. Some

:17:36. > :17:39.ministers are trying to look for bigger opportunities to make bigger

:17:40. > :17:44.changes to make reforms that also deliver cash but there are really

:17:45. > :17:51.serious and worrying conversations. People about this, and briefly, for

:17:52. > :17:57.the police, it has become not a serious political issue yet but it

:17:58. > :18:03.may well. Some conservative lease commissioners are making protests as

:18:04. > :18:05.well. -- police commissioners. Thank you, Laura.

:18:06. > :18:08.Are you the type of person who likes a campaign?

:18:09. > :18:10.Do you send around appeals on Facebook and change

:18:11. > :18:13.Are you fond of a good slogan badge and partial

:18:14. > :18:17.If so, does it really achieve anything?

:18:18. > :18:20.Writer James James Bartholomew thinks not - he says it's really

:18:21. > :18:35.This is the birthplace of Octavia Hill.

:18:36. > :18:43.She was co-founder of the National Trust,

:18:44. > :18:46.but more importantly, she was a major social reformer in the 19th

:18:47. > :18:49.She was appalled by the living conditions of the working poor.

:18:50. > :18:51.But instead of just wringing her hands about it

:18:52. > :18:59.She created low-cost housing for them.

:19:00. > :19:03.These days, many people think that merely

:19:04. > :19:06.expressing an opinion establishes that they really, really care.

:19:07. > :19:09.They use wristbands, hashtags, tweets,

:19:10. > :19:15.twibbons and T-shirts to show they have fashionably right-on opinions.

:19:16. > :19:19.I call this phenomenon virtue signalling.

:19:20. > :19:23.It is the idea that having and expressing particular opinion

:19:24. > :19:31.In Britain we can be quite sophisticated about this.

:19:32. > :19:35.We can indicate how good we are by saying we hate something.

:19:36. > :19:38."I hate the Daily Mail" means "I am an open-minded liberal sort

:19:39. > :19:49."I hate Ukip" means "I'm not a racist", and the more angry

:19:50. > :19:52.and the more I beat the drum about how I hate Ukip, the more it

:19:53. > :19:59.But have you noticed something about this kind of virtue?

:20:00. > :20:04.In contrast to Octavia here, it does not require actually doing anything.

:20:05. > :20:12.It requires a show of effort and no sacrifice.

:20:13. > :20:14.I suppose the reason that all this virtue signalling really

:20:15. > :20:17.irritates me is that there are still people who are truly virtuous.

:20:18. > :20:21.These are plaques commemorating people who did actual good deeds.

:20:22. > :20:28.And that kind of generosity and decency takes place today

:20:29. > :20:31.among ordinary people, people who stay together for the sake of the

:20:32. > :20:34.children, a person who looks after an elderly parent, maybe for years.

:20:35. > :20:37.There is such a thing still as actual virtue.

:20:38. > :20:40.But virtue signalling without actually doing

:20:41. > :20:51.It is self-righteous, vain, and silly.

:20:52. > :20:57.It is not what you say or think that matters, it's what you do.

:20:58. > :20:59.James Bartholomew, at Octavia Hill Birthplace House in Wisbech.

:21:00. > :21:10.What's new about this? Presumably throughout history there have been

:21:11. > :21:17.holier than thou people. As the Internet make this worse? I don't

:21:18. > :21:21.know. This is going back to the subject write about, the welfare

:21:22. > :21:25.state. The welfare state has a lot to do with it, people feel they have

:21:26. > :21:31.outsourced their decency, I pay taxes, therefore I don't have to

:21:32. > :21:35.anything! That is part of why virtues signalling without doing

:21:36. > :21:40.anything has increased. Are they doing nothing? Surely the idea of

:21:41. > :21:46.saying that I feel strongly about this and other people will say, I

:21:47. > :21:49.agree, what can we do, you have been crowd sourcing something you can do

:21:50. > :21:55.about it, whereas you might not have known what to do in the first place.

:21:56. > :21:59.You can do two things. Change government policy which could do

:22:00. > :22:03.good or harm, or you could do something like setting up a home for

:22:04. > :22:07.the elderly or an organisation that visits lonely elderly people. You

:22:08. > :22:13.can do something. And that's great. Campaigning can lead to that. What

:22:14. > :22:18.irritates me is the people who I've met, in contrast to people who do

:22:19. > :22:22.real good, the people who think, I can say that I hate the Daily Mail

:22:23. > :22:27.and Ukip and I vote Labour once every five years, I am a morally

:22:28. > :22:30.superior person. That irritates me because there are people who make

:22:31. > :22:38.sacrifices... LAUGHTER

:22:39. > :22:46.The suggestion is that virtues signalling is a problem for the

:22:47. > :22:50.left! The phrase that I created is mentioned several hundred times in

:22:51. > :22:58.the Guardian because they are accusing each other of virtues

:22:59. > :23:07.signalling. Is that fair? It is not what you say, it is what you do. It

:23:08. > :23:11.used to be that if an MP got half a dozen letters they would think it

:23:12. > :23:16.was a movement. Now you can get hundreds of e-mails. Many standard,

:23:17. > :23:20.some telling personal stories. I think there is now a welcome culture

:23:21. > :23:26.of people finding it easier to communicate with their MP and that's

:23:27. > :23:31.a good thing. Using to be suggesting that there is a sanctimonious tone

:23:32. > :23:35.about it and laziness behind it. Absolutely, lazy, vain,

:23:36. > :23:39.self-righteous. With these conditions you can do so easily,

:23:40. > :23:47.saying that there are naked women in the Sun, that is awful. Not actually

:23:48. > :23:53.changing anything. Do you do virtue signalling, Therese it's

:23:54. > :23:58.extraordinary. Twitter doesn't reflect British opinion in anyway,

:23:59. > :24:04.even people who click an e-mail, I think that has lost its currency as

:24:05. > :24:08.well. You do not have to think things through, you can say, this is

:24:09. > :24:12.awful and you don't have do think through the consequences, reducing

:24:13. > :24:21.tax credits, what's the other side of the story? What do you do to do

:24:22. > :24:28.something about things. I can't start boasting that, that would be

:24:29. > :24:34.equally bad! You sort the trap! Do you volunteer, do you do things? I

:24:35. > :24:39.don't want to boast about things I do. That would be pride as well. Let

:24:40. > :24:41.me spare you the embarrassment, thank you.

:24:42. > :24:43.Now, what do Anthony Gormley, William Shakespeare and

:24:44. > :25:00.The answer is they all feature in the new British passport,

:25:01. > :25:03.designed especially to celebrate the UK's creative and cultural past.

:25:04. > :25:06.It's meant to be the most secure passport ever, but its launch

:25:07. > :25:09.The travel document features seven men, but only two women

:25:10. > :25:11.and no-one from Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.

:25:12. > :25:13.Here's what the Home Office Minister, James Brokenshire had

:25:14. > :25:17.The people of Great Britain and Northern Ireland continue to be

:25:18. > :25:22.pioneers within the creative sector. And in recognition of all of these

:25:23. > :25:25.achievements, I'm today proud to unveil the latest design of the UK

:25:26. > :25:31.passport. Under the theme of "Creative United Kingdom".

:25:32. > :25:37.This design will be used for the next five years, and features the

:25:38. > :25:47.works of many of this country's finest creative talents.

:25:48. > :25:53.With me now, passport expert Martin Lloyd. He's the author of The

:25:54. > :25:59.Passport. This has caused almighty row. Apparently yes, we have a

:26:00. > :26:07.pretty picture book for a passport. It wasn't always like that. What was

:26:08. > :26:10.it like? It's derived from a letter of introduction and a king 's

:26:11. > :26:14.licence which was permission to leave the country. It came looking

:26:15. > :26:19.like a letter of introduction! Of course you didn't need a Buddhist

:26:20. > :26:25.passport. This man, Charles Sloan, went to France on a French passport!

:26:26. > :26:28.It was quite easy. The British passport cost ?2 seven and six, the

:26:29. > :26:36.French one cost four shillings. No argument! To bring it forward, only

:26:37. > :26:47.two women, seven men. What do you think of that? I don't know. I like

:26:48. > :26:52.women! Does it matter? It does. The idea that men are more creative than

:26:53. > :26:56.women, there are some outstanding women who should have been included

:26:57. > :27:00.like the wonderful architect who designed the Olympic Village. Why

:27:01. > :27:04.don't we have creative people of that kind reflecting the diversity

:27:05. > :27:12.of this country as well? I just think maybe your government has a

:27:13. > :27:17.problem with women? It's not true, Elisabeth Scott is featured and she

:27:18. > :27:24.designed the RSC. Do you know much about her? I know she's designing

:27:25. > :27:28.iconic buildings. The things we are addressing like gender equality, it

:27:29. > :27:35.is nonsense to say that we don't like women. Who has the best

:27:36. > :27:44.passport? We must. It is almost the most expensive. Doesn't mean it is

:27:45. > :27:49.the best? Of course not. It is a good demonstration of the skill of

:27:50. > :27:51.the printers, clever ideas, but the forgers are always six months behind

:27:52. > :27:56.them so they have to keep renewing these things. If we left the

:27:57. > :28:03.European Union would we need another passport? That would be good, we

:28:04. > :28:06.could go back to Victorian times and have something personally signed by

:28:07. > :28:12.the Foreign Secretary! That's the way to do it! Passport and 13. Izzy

:28:13. > :28:20.and to Thomas Hodges, signed by Lord Palmerston. -- is used to Thomas

:28:21. > :28:24.Hodges. When you handed that to a foreigner, they knew you were

:28:25. > :28:27.British! This just time to put you out of your misery.

:28:28. > :28:31.Therese, press that big red button there.

:28:32. > :28:47.The answer to Guess The Year was 2012. The mug goes to our viewer.

:28:48. > :28:49.Christa Williams, well done. That's all for today.

:28:50. > :28:53.The One O'clock News is starting over on BBC One now.

:28:54. > :28:57.Andrew will be back here as well, so do join us then.

:28:58. > :29:07.I'm actually tingling with the excitement.

:29:08. > :29:10.We're going to test your skills at the wheel.

:29:11. > :29:13.It's too intimidating. Do it for your family!